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Was Griffith really evil or just misunderstood?

Will Guts really kill him or do you think when the end finally comes he'll either forgive him or just not care about what he's done
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He was a mindbroken mess, anyone would have done the same after being tortured and sodomized for a year.
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>>154601569
>misunderstood
He justifies himself when he was in the process of becoming Femto
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>>154601918
but he sacrificed him own comrades m8
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>rapes best friend's girlfriend right in his eyes because he made you forget your dream for a couple minutes
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>>154601569
>rapes your girlfriend right in front of your eyes
>after killing everyone you love and care about
>misunderstood
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Griffith literally chose to be evil. Before then maybe he had good and bad to him like everyone else, but it's not even up for debate after he made the sacrifice.
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He starts off not evil but becomes pure evil after selling his soul.
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I'm gonna make a webm of guts raping griffith some day
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>>154603812
>mfw the game's models are better then the 16 anime
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Almost anyone here would have done the same thing. Anyone who would not do what he did, would only be refraining due to fear of what sort of hell might await their soul once they finally die. If there were no eternal consequences, it'd be hard to find someone who wouldn't.
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>>154604111
It's honestly the only worthwhile berserk thing we got in years
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I'm poppin the BIGGEST bottles when he finally dies.
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>>154604268
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDJZyoJvkpY
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>>154601569
>Griffith and Guts brawl
>Both collapse and it seems like they have killed each other
>Griffith starts a monologue with his final breaths
>Guts arises a couple sentences in
>goes fucking ballistic and hack at Griffith
>Flurry of blows, Griffith's body is near unrecognizable
>Dragon Slayer shatters, Guts continues with his fists without missing a beat
>Everyone is watching as Guts tenderizes a pile of bloody meat
>Schierke starts to say something but Roderick holds her and the others back
>keanureevesoceancopypasta.doc
>They get disgusted and leave
>Guts pummels the remains until sunset, all alone with no one daring to confront him
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Why do so many arguments about Griffith's morality gloss over the blatant manipulation the Godhand do when Griffith is having that introspection? Griffith was likely the most vulnerable and susceptible to influence that he'd ever been his whole life at that point.
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Everyone seems to forget the things he was doing to achieve his dream BEFORE Guts' departure caused him to have that little "hiccup"
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>>154602694
I would sacrifice you as well if I was an dickless vegetable.
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>>154604782
>clang sound effect plays with each hit, even with his fists
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>>154604782
>in the end they come back, guts is nearly collapsed from exhaustion, tears are streaming down his face
>he looks to the sky and screams
GRIFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITH
>he collapses
>manga ends
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>>154605165
Doesn't matter if they manipulated them, he was still completely aware of what he was doing.
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>final confrontation
>Guts decides there's no point in fighting anymore
>leaves
>Griffith kills himself

You know this is how it's going down.
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>>154604782
>Dragonslayer shatters
I could actually see that happen. Not sure why or for what purpose, just the sort of standard "all hope is lost" final battle climatic type shit until Guts rekts Griffith with his fists in Berserker mode. Would look pretty cool tho
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>>154601569
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Has there ever been a day when there was no Griffith apologist thread on /a/?
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>>154608431
He did nothing wrong
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>>154608431
Not that i'm aware of.
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>>154603812
>raping
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>>154604457
First time I saw the Berserk OP on youtube, I thought someone just put a chill western song over it and I was shocked how well it fits. I was like "man, this is so much better than some jpop they would actually use".
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>>154608705
>I thought someone just put a chill western song over it
You mean you didn't recognize the horribly bad engrish?
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>>154608749
Come on, it's not THAT bad.
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>>154604782
>Everyone leaves
>Guts unzips his pants
>"Now it's your turn"
>He starts fucking Femto's remains
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>>154604207
Pretty much. I think it's pretty hypocritical of people to say that they wouldn't sacrifice their family to demons, damning them to eternal suffering, to undo the consequences of their own actions. I mean come on people, stop virtue signaling.
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People forget that Griffith has always said that. The band of the hawks were simply his tools to get his own kingdom. In the end they fulfilled their purpose and made griffith a God hand. They were just along for the ride and if things were different they could've ruled along side him but they had to die unfortunately.
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>>154608951
Griffith fucked up by trying to turn an alpha in a beta. He killed the last 2 people that tried that.
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>>154601569
>he'll either forgive him or just not care about what he's done
Do you even think he's sorry for what he did
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Golden Age>Conviction (with Lost Children included)>Black Swordsman>=Falcon of the Millennium Empire>>>>Fantasia (so far at least)
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>>154609186
okay
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>>154609036
No it's in the way he did it Guts would have faithfully served Griffith forever if he did not over hear that Griffith did not consider him a friend. Honestly he put too much on to Guts and should have let him occupy a position of glory and left it at that.
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>>154609186
Black Swordsman > Lost Children > Conviction > Golden Age > Fantasia > Falcon of the Millennium Empire
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>>154609479
Do you perhaps like edge?
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>>154609616
Absolutely.
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>>154602694
Literally said he would do it like 10 times before he did it
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>>154609616
Why else would you read Berserk?
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>>154609691

I can't speak for that anon, but I actually dropped Berserk many years ago when I first went through the Black Swordsman arc. Friend forced me to watch the anime and Golden Age convinced me it was more than just edge.

I won't rank the arcs myself as I think I'd find it difficult in several places (Falcon of the Milennium Empire arc in particular encompasses so much by what I assume its definition is that it seems impossible to treat it as a monolithic part of the saga), but I'll say that I think Black Swordmsan arc is definitely the least impressive (not that it's bad despite my dropping it there, it becomes better with the context of what comes after).

Other opinions: Lost Children is probably underrated, volume 38 is one of the best single volumes in the series, Griffith was doing wrong long before the Eclipse so most arguments for his innocence based around "you'd do it too" are largely pointless.
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>>154601569
>Will Guts really kill him or do you think when the end finally comes he'll either forgive him or just not care about what he's done
>when the end finally comes
Miura will keep this going until the day he dies, and it will be left without an ending. Probably only going to get 10 more chapters until he dies since he likes to put this shit on hiatus
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Schierke parts of Falcon of the Millennium > Conviction > Falcon of the Millennium > Black Swordsman > Golden Age
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Did they ever release the dubs of the shitty 2016 anime?
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>>154609884
My favourite part of Berserk is Guts traveling the world hunting apostles, that just has so much feeling of adventure to it. I wish that part was more episodic, you can really have "apostle of the week" type of stuff (but of course with more development than that). In that way, maybe I like Golden Age the least since it has very little magical stuff.
I don't think any of the arcs are bad, but Black Swrodsman is by far my favourite. Through all of the story I had that feeling creeping in that "he's totally putting up a face" and I thought that for him to act so heartless might actually be not a pleasant thing to do. And then in the end you see him crying, and it's like yes, that's totally what it is, he got fucked up real bad and is forcing himself to not get close to people.
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>>154610217
They haven't, and the PS4 game wasn't dubbed either. It's a total shame, as they're far more faithful with keeping the dub cast than they are with the Japanese.
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>>154609479
>Millennium Empire is dead last
Fuck you and fuck your shit opinions
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Griffith is a sociopath whose dream of having a kingdom some day makes him sell his flesh and soul in exchange of that. He's both good and bad up to the point where he turns into a demon.
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>>154610325
Well that's shit. I love Marc, Kevin, and Carrie as the characters.
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>>154610425
I actually like Carrie the most out of the three, she adds a layer of warmth to Casca's character that both of her seiyuus fail to convey.
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>>154609884
>Falcon of the Millennium Empire arc in particular encompasses so much by what I assume its definition is that it seems impossible to treat it as a monolithic part of the saga)
I agree with this, the arc should have been broken up in 2 or more arcs instead of being so massive. Like I rate the beginning with Schierke and getting the Berserk armor part as top tier berserk but everything after that (especially the port town and the whole Farnese storyline) as some of the lowest points of the series so far.
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>>154610425
Berserk is so grand it kind of feels like it should have unique voices for everything. So when I watched the movies, I couldn't help but her the famous seiyuu I know in everyone. If I ever decide to watch the old series, maybe I'll watch it English dubbed.
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>>154610829
I haven't watched either series but I disliked Griffith's seiyuu (Takahiro Sakurai). I think a woman should voice him.

Everyone else was alright, not iconic or anything but okay.
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>>154610829
It is pretty good, though I do like a lot of dubs. Gotta watch the outtakes as well.
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>>154604207
I wouldn't have fucked that princess in the first place. That retard had it coming
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>>154612672
That's what he thought too. Imagine if something happens that shakes you up enough to do it.
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>>154601569
he was a spoilt little cunt.
he was a cool dude while everything was going his way, but the second things get rocky he threw a tantrum, fucked him & his army's lives up massively, and then bit the hand that fed him.
he was so distraught that his dream catalyst husbando decided to not be used as a tool anymore, that he fucked his girlfriend in front of him and unleashed 1000 years of darkness. imagine being able to say that without it being exaggerated as a joke.
"why arent you friends with him anymore"
"because he killed all my friends, fucked my wife until she was retarded before my very eyes, so he could perform a ritual to become a demon god and unleash the gates of hell"
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>>154603070
b-but guts did nothing wrong! she wanted it! You can tell by how she didnt fight back against the literal god.
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>>154614182
>Griffith
>literal god

He created nothing.
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I want to see more of what Guts did in that one year before they rescued Griffith. I also want to see more Black Swordsman style apostle hunts before the Conviction arc not to mention the backstory for the rest of the Godhand, Zodd, SK and Donovan.

>tfw Miura will die before he can give proper answers and end the story.
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>>154617343
I just want to see more berserk
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>>154617784
Put your grasses on anon, noting will be wong.
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Berserk isn't going to get an ending. Anyway, killing Griffith at this point seems like a formality.

The best thing we could hope for is that Guts and Griffith kill each other.
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>>154618120
It's too rate, it's too rate.
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>>154613489
>fucked my wife until she was retarded before my very eyes
His fault for waifuing a filthy Kushanite.
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>>154601569
Why would he ever forgive Griffith?
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>>154618253
I wonder how much will Casca remember.
I wonder how vengeful she will be.
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>>154618446
We should find out soon and it should be gut-wrenching.
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>>154610914
Sakurai is my favorite of the new seiyuu, personally. Wasn't fond of Guts' new voice at first but he's grown on me after a while (he's better at playing the older and wearier Black Swordsman than younger Guts).

Funny how Griffith was voiced by Sephiroth (Toshiyuki Morikawa) in the old TV series and now he's voiced by Cloud Strife.
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>>154605165
The Godhand only show you the truth. They told him what he already knew (that he was stepping over bodies to get what he wanted, etc).
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>>154619755
But he stole fizzy lifting drink anon.
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>>154618635
>tfw the next releases will be backstory chapters.
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>>154618220
You have something against indo-iranian masterrace?
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>>154619964
Little witch and Farnese seeing the eclipse should be fun.
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>>154604457
Is it time for a Sega Genesis Berserk game?
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>>154619974
I want to diddle that moonboy
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>>154620159
It would be like family tradition.
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>>154610217
Why would they waste money dubbing that piece of shit
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>>154620363
Because they said they would.
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>>154601918
I agree.

His will was sundered then, and his entire body was mangled .

But what really makes this settled, is capacity of the demons to get inside his psyche and seal the deal. The affirmation of volition is a formality at that point.

He probably just saw that shining kingdom on a hill, saw the corpses all around him, saw the kingdom again and that sealed his consent.
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>>154620620
>He probably just saw that shining kingdom on a hill, saw the corpses all around him, saw the kingdom again and that sealed his consent.
Read the manga.
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>>154620363
Urine and shit go pretty well together.
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Here's how to kill Griffith and the Godhand, and i didn't even have to think 20 minutes: They're powered by the astral realm, made up of human collective unconscious, so Griffith and co as well as Rickert just gotta go around fixing the world and making people better, raising hope without directly confronting Griffith to change the overall human nature, eventually weakening the forces of the Idea of Evil. This can set up an entire arc of Guts n co saving people and gathering millions under their banner, until he faces off agains Griffith and his lackeys who by that point have had their causality manipulation powers and time/space warping severely weakened. Now with a great effort Guts can BTFO them. There, it wasn't that hard to think of a way, Miura, and it fits in with in-universe lore.
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>>154621525
What the fuck do you think Guts is, Jesus Christ?
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>>154620701
Yeah you are right forgot my grasses
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>>154609479
>Fantasia > Falcon
No.
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Why couldn't entire armies take down Guts during the Golden arc? Why didn't they just get a bunch of guys with crossbows and shoot him? It's not like he even had a shield or had superhuman dodging abilities.
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Who's the scariest mother fucker in berserk?
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>>154621758
Casca is Jesus, her name legit means Easter in Irish. Guess what holiday is just around the corner.
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>>154622267
Read the manga

>>154622268
Zodd. His introduction was hands down the best one in the entire manga.
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>>154604782
I want it to happen. Such a good ending, especially the part when Dragonslayer finally rests in pieces.
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>>154622284
>Irish
I fucking new she wasn't white
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>>154621525
Nonsense. Berserk is stark, cold, sinbound medievalist paganism.

You are evoking some jewish tikkun olam shit that has no place in Berserk.
If there's any lesson of Berserk, it's the the power of will and the emptiness of inherent goodness.

Hence Griffith's WILLINGNESS to extirpate his former friends to gain power. There''s nothing for Guts to do, except to drive enormous steel through the adversary.
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>>154621758
I love him
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>>154622327
>naked giant with big teeth and big sword in a dimly lit room surrounded by corpses
better than
>everyone you care about is transported o a place where the floor is faces and the hills are faces and 4 gods rise out of nothing and horrific monster men yell wildly as the one in the middle greets you as honored guests

Wrong.
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>>154605756
lol
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>>154622546
>Irish people
>not white

We're a paler lot than even you, anon-kun.
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>>154622805
Yeah, and slavs are white too, right?
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>>154622899
Fresh out of Google Images.
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So did Berserk lose it's edge when (magic) was introduced?
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>>154601569
He's probably not going to kill him, if Guts goes on a revenge rampage against Griffith hasn't the beast of darkness essentially won?
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Waiting for the next chapter is killing me lads.
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>>154622899
back to /pol/ with ye
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>>154623015
I think Berserk lost its edge when they got on the boat. I'm sure we'll get it back when they get on the boat again.
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Guts will move on if Caska is fully healed. It's been foreshadowed for a while now.
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>>154623148
We're getting the Eclipse from Casca's point of view on the 24th. Do you really think a return boat ride could eclipse that?
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>The third movie doesn't have the pajeet assassin sewer fight
>Or the Wyald fight
Weak
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>>154622983
It's sometimes easier than seek in folder which have 40GB of images from 4chin.

>>154623119
Kek at you, I'm not using this shithole, also, I'm not white too according to/pol/
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>>154623241
>>154623050
Miura has long ago stated that a battle between Guts and Griffith is inevitable. Even if you put that fact aside, how would it have ended? Casca gets unretarded, she and Guts have 2 kids on Elfhelm and they lived happily ever after, the end?
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>>154623423
>I'm not white too according to /pol/

Go back to your designated shitting streets, then.
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>>154623529
I'm not shitskin or spic, try something else.
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>>154623249
yarr matey miura never said i be havin the permadeath ya landlubber
>>154623264
>implying either were necessary and that they didn't lessen the eclipse's impact
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>>154623492
I didn't say they wouldn't fight, I'm saying Guts probably wont kill Griffith, I'm saying the point of Guts' milenium empire arc was to let go of his hatred of Griffith and prioritize Casca, his darker self is his own worst enemy, it cheapens that struggle to have his darker urges win out in the end.
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>>154623423
Neither are /pol/tards, judging from their real life shitposting there are a lot of asians larping as white people.
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>>154624330
>prioritize Casca
Agreed. Hell that was the point of the Conviction arc as well
>let go of his hatred of Griffith
No. Even if Guts decides not to go after Griffith (chances of that happening are close to 0 in my opinion) he will never not hate him and he has never stated otherwise. If he gave Griffith a pass that would undermine his relationship with the Hawks, their death and the Golden Age arc in general. They are his original family and only now he is slowly rebuilding that with another group of people.
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>>154624393
I don't know, on /int/ it's rather whites that is larping asians.
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Reminder that Lost Children will never get an anime

Reminder that Wyald will never get an anime

Reminder that Black Swordsman will never get an anime

Reminder that Sea God will never get an anime.
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>>154625026
>Reminder that Sea God will never get an anime.
wouldn't mind desu
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>>154625026
>>Reminder that Sea God will never get an anime.
ohhhh nooooo
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>>154625559

I need my mermaid titties anon.
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>>154620154
It's time for the Shining Force engine to be used to make a Berserk SRPG. That's one of the only things that would make sense.
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>>154625610
female:mermaid$
Knock yourself out
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>Griffith raped her so hard she went retarded
Did you all miss the part she was gang raped by a pack of demons right before griffith
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>>154625596
>they don't enjoy the pirate
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>>154626089
Was she? It didn't seem like that, it just seemed like they felt her up. Besides, Femto wouldn't accept used goods. Probably.
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>>154626161
nobody does
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>>154626089
Was she tho? I reread it recently and it seemed pretty vague if she was raped a bit before Femto came down and even if she was like I said before it was pretty short.
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>>154601569
He was evil, as in he betrayed and killed his own people. No matter your reasoning, that is evil.
Still, he was right. He did the right thing. In that scenario, being evil is something any sane man would choose. That is what makes him special. He did something evil, but he did absolutely nothing wrong.
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>>154601569

>forgive him or just not care
Nope. Even after he revived his friends and healed Casca. The only way Guts could NOT want to kill him would be if Griffith unseparably merged with/became his son.

>OH WAIT

And then they could join forces and somehow defeat the God Hand.
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>>154625026
blackswordman was already covered in the 97 anime though?
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>>154625026
>Reminder that Sea God will get a 3dime
FTFY.

Also, it will be used to torture the last remaining Berserkfags before Miura dies and they sudoku.
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>>154601569
>implying Guts can even touch him

Guts is a fucking loser. There is zero hope for him. He had the chance. Griffith invited him. But no, let's be a whiny little bitch about the oh so dear friends. Who the fuck cares. They were there to be used by Griffith, and they were. It's a shame they all had to die, but there was no other way.
And besides, it was all Guts' fault anyway. He wanted to be a special little snowflake and be Griffith's equal.
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>>154626219
>>154626239
She was bleeding out of her crotch with spiky tentacles hover between her legs
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>>154601569
obviously just watch the new ZeGodHand video
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What is the best arc in Berserk and why is it the Black Swordsman arc?
>asshole Guts
>smug Guts
>sad Guts
>best Guts
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>>154608779
It is. But it was a great source for the memes.
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>>154628127
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>>154628176
Yeah Lost Children was great too.
>raging Guts
>child killer Guts
So good. I miss Guts being a total piece of shit.
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>>154608485
How can Casca even compete?
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>>154627016
>blackswordman was already covered in the 97 anime though?
Only the Snake Baron part, but not the Count part.
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>flasback chapter
>we might get some new Judeaus
Oohhh yeah i cant wait
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>>154629264
Judeau was a fucking cuck
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>>154629874
If you don't know what a cuck is.
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>>154629954
Dude he let Guts fuck his girl and didn't do a damn thing about it. Take your shitty character and fuck off
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>>154629979
She was never his girl
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>>154629874
>he literallly dies for her
>a cuck
You dont know what that word means
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>>154630012
Case in point
>>154630023
>dying for your friend's gf
Ultimate friendzone
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Came here to post about berserk - first thread about berserk. excellent

Got one question, finished up the anime series, should I just go back and start reading the manga?
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>>154630045
Is it weird that i have a crush on him? I mean i really like him, hes such a qt
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>>154630060
I can smell the crossboarding newfaggotry from your post. Read the manga and stop posting.
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>>154630158
Yeah he's cute but he was a total beta imo.
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>>154630166
Don't worry, I'd never come here for anything else.
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>>154630196
>implying short qt beta guys aren't the best
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>>154630240
He should have just taken Guts for himself. We all know every character in Berserk is bisexual anyway.
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>>154630158
>Is it weird that i have a crush on him?
Nah. Judeau is a really good dude.
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Schierke > Farnese > Jill > the Slut girl from the God Hand >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Casca
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>>154630350
No mermaid qt?
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>>154630344
I know right? I just really want to hop in his dick and ride him for hours
Shame i'm not a brown girl like Casca
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In a setting with a more realistic world it'd be a more interesting discussion. In a world where Griffith speaks to the "Idea of Evil" as a mastermind it's hard to argue he's on the side of justice. Same with the concept of unwilling sacrifices under Christian Imagery.

If it were a setting in which Griffith betrayed his allies for political power and Guts was marked for death in a non-supernatural manner, you could argue that Grififth's greater ambitions for peace justify the means. But as it stands he intends to let the world burn for "apostles" to get his butthurt little dream of playing king.

As for if Guts will kill him, I don't think it's a question of forgiveness as much as a choice of righteousness/revenge or happiness on Guts' part. And I think if he will or not is one of the more deeply interesting questions.
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>>154626161
>Griffith wearing a Hawaiian shirt
why is there not more of this
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>>154630350
>prefering loli midget over qt brown tomboy
This board is damned
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>>154630452
>wanting to fuck Judeau
>not ____Corkus
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>>154630623
All he does is bitch.
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>>154630610
I hope she goes back to short hair after she gets unretarded.
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>>154630660
he's just tsun
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>>154630350
Crazy Farnese>Slan>Charlotte>warrior Casca>Luca>Isma>Hanafubuku>Schierke>Jill>Teresia>witch Farnese>retard Casca>Sonia
Did I forget anyone important?
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>>154601569
it wont be resolved. Miyura will die before the manga ends
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>>154631257
Loli casca
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>>154631526
might as well add cartoon Casca
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>>154630582
Here's a happy Christmas time with three friends and comrades.
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>>154632551
why is gurifisu so cute
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>>154632687
Best Boy
>moe like girl, would wife
>handsome like man, would comrade
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why did the armor turn his hair white?
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>>154633097
he's becoming more like griffith!!!!!!!!!!
no i don't know, probably just some bullshit miura thought looked cool
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>>154633097
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Antoinette_syndrome
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>>154633097
Marie Antoinette syndrome to symbolize the sheer stress the Berserker Armour put onto his psyche.
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>>154632551
> tfw no light-hearted Golden Age adventures with Griffith struggling to hide his gay lust for Guts
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>>154633365
all the yaoi doujins are canon imo
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>>154604782
Not sure about the rest but I believe Dragonslayer will break in the final battle as well.
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>>154633410
I think it would be really cool if Griffith just nonchalantly shattered it with his mind and Guts just stared in awe as he realized the gap between them.
I guess he wouldn't really be in a good spot to beat him after that but whatever.
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>>154633395
Even Living in Sin?
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>>154633558
that was actually the one i was thinking about when i said that
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>>154633613
What about Sway? And is Heartache 1 canon in this gay earth?
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>>154633728
>heartache 1
what the fuck is this shit
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>>154633782
Read it you bastard. And you tell me if it's canon or not.
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>>154630545
The idea of Evil is retconned.
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>>154633803
i'm reading it atm
if guts and griffith fuck in it it must be canon
right?
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>>154633843
O M E G A G E N E S
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>>154633550
it was mentioned before but his sword seems to be gathering "ethereal" demon power from killing so many apostles
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>>154633994
I'm never sorry.
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Are the movies good?
Are they canon?
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>>154634012
Yeah so I think it would be even more crazy if Griffith shattered it. We don't really know how powerful the God Hand are as of yet, but I imagine they're on another level, I mean, after JUST becoming Femto, Griffith had telekinetic powers, and if I remember right, was able to one-shot apostles before Guts even left hell.
Now imagine what he can do now. He basically humiliated the Kushan emperor. Guts, even with his new armor, would be absolute fodder to Griffith, and I doubt the sword would fare much better.
Unless Miura seriously buffs Guts again, I doubt Guts will beat Griffith in a traditional one on one fight, I see it ending with an argument.
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>>154634115
Watch either the movies or the 97 anime. Same thing. Personally, I think that they each do certain things better than the other.
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>>154604782
absolutely no way this will happen.

Guts will have risen above revenge for the sake his sanity and his care for his friends. It'll be a struggle, but no way will he go berserk in the end.
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Long hair casca way better
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>>154634255
You're forgetting something. Something that Guts, regardless of skill or equipment, will ever be able to match Griffith in. Femto can fly
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>>154634358
I still think Guts's purpose is to force Griffith into a position where he does something stupid or irrational and forces the Godhand to intervene and end him.
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>>154634446
causality
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Griffith is a shitty and overrated Mary Sue.
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>>154634640
you too
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>>154622557
>emptiness of inherent goodness
Emptiness has its own qualities
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>>154627244
Go back to Falconia, Griffith
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Movie Outtakes:
1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV97EtlronA
2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbRi1zgT688
3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rVwbMbYwvE&t=1s
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>>154633818
Since when?
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>>154634357
You Lie!
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Casca is going to kill Griffith because Guts will pussy out
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>>154635042
I love how 25% is lewd Casca shenanigans.
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Griffith’s forces were fully aware of the costs when they volunteered to serve under his command. Griffith stated his dream was to establish a nation under his rule, and that those serving under him might be part of the casualties. And guess what: some perished. Yet, somehow, Griffith is accountable for this inevitable tragedy? Despite informing these volunteers entering a contract with him of the consequences?

The honorable Griffith is currently orchestrating a new world order of peace and prosperity. This noble man of humble birth is achieving the impossible: the constitution of a utopian society involving demons and humans living in harmony with one another, a civilization where the rich and selfish have no power, a new World that flourishes on the foundation of equality and brotherhood.

Meanwhile, after Guts abandons Griffith under the pretense of being devoid of finding meaning in his pathetic existence, he still believes he can just waltz in after committing treason. As a result, Griffith is crippled and mute, the cost of living with Guts’ selfish desires. Griffith then punishes Guts for his betrayal. Yet, the merciful Griffith returns to Guts, pleading with this savage for the support of his Utopian pursuit. Guts refuses his generous offer due to imagined past transgressions.

In summary: Guts is the representation of what is wrong with the world--selfish and treacherous. Griffith only desires a world where people like Guts can no longer terrorise the weak and innocent.
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>>154635185
An interesting take on Casca killing Griffith would be it happening simply because Griffith didn't consider her a threat at all and can't tell her intent to kill with her being brain damaged.
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>>154635208
that's because she was always lewd
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>>154635208
It's pretty sexy. My favorite was Griffith being really faggy during the first fight with Guts.
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Am I the only person who's Favorite Arc is "The Black Swordsman" arc?
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>>154635992
Uh, no? Read the thread before you post.
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>>154635210
t. Casca after waking up
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>>154636074
Don't be rude. We need as many newfriends as we can get to share the pain convince the animators to give us better models.
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>>154635992
Lost Children is Black Swordsman but better
Except for the GodHand meeting
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>>154636203
Regardless of being new, you'd think it would be common sense to read at least the thread you're in before asking
>am I the only one who X?
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he is god , they are beyond good or evil.
good or evil is biased on your perception of events you have no part in.
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>>154630350
Slan>Farnese>Schierke>Casca
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>>154636253
>he is god , they are beyond good or evil.
no
he's a faggot with reality-bending powers
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>>154636332
>implying Conrad is bound by laws of faggotry
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>>154603812
>sfm gay porn of Guts and Griffith
what a time to be alive
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>>154609663
Really?
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>>154636888
Is that what they mean by "revenge porn"?
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>>154636387
>conrad

who? I'm being serious
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>>154630682
FUCK NO. Long hair Casca is much better looking
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>>154637765
one of the god hand
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>>154622649
>tfw no Slan girlfriend
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>>154635210
You Griffith fans get more delusional as the years go by.
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Not to go full /v/ but
>demons souls, dark souls, and bloodborne full of Berserk references out the ass, not even subtle in most cases
>both hirasawa songs for Berserk 2016 reference ashes, which are a central theme in dark souls 3
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>>154637765
Fucking kill yourself. How?
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>>154640189
what's your point anon?
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>>154640689
Yeah was wondering if I was just being retarded or something, what the fuck is he talking about?
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>>154625026
Lost children has a chance only as an OVA
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>>154634446
It will happen soon when the manga is released in fucking 2047.
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>>154627286
So she was on the rag? Demons were probably giving her a pad or just cleaning her up before Femto got his groove on.
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>>154626089
She tols Guts to not watch, so she was still lucid when Griffith was fucking her,
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>>154629874
>>154630196
You guys are forgetting than before Guts there was Griffith. Like, it was probably obvious for Judeau how much Casca is into him so there was no point to even try. I mean, Guts is an incredibly attractive man and even for him she was like "nope, muh Griffith". What chance did Judeau had?
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>>154642045
I agree, he had no chance, but that doesn't change the fact that he was a beta. I think he even encouraged Guts to talk to Casca once or twice, can't confirm that though.
The way he died was super friendzone-y, too.
I'm half kidding anyway, I'm not really trying to start a debate about Judeau, just some stuff I picked up on during my read.
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>>154642045
On subsequent readings of berserk, I saw this more and more, and this showed me how deep Muira made even his secondary characters..
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>>154642105
He did it twice once when guts was departing from the band of Hawks and the other when he returned back and casca hadn't slept since she was the captain now
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Reminder that Casca could be semi-normal right now if Guts didn't try to rape her.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbx0PAsWiKw
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Help me settle this internal eternal debate, /a/
Was this scene pure luck like normal with Guts, or is he actually able to react fast enough to position his head like that? She was going supersonic speeds and he had been spun through the air, but he is Guts after all.
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>>154642399
Reported.
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>>154642399
>like 15 frames a second, if that
WAKE ME UP
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>>154642426
He's pretty much superhuman when he's pissed which is probably why Miura wrote in the Berserker armor so Guts could keep doing crazy shit and have it be founded in something rather than him just being the strongest person on Earth coincidentally.
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>Farnese diddled her sweet pea to the tought of burning corpses
Just a reminder
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>>154640189
>both of them reference ashes
>ashes are in dark souls
whoa and Berserk has blood
just like bloodborne
what a ripoff amirite
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>>154640189
The Witcher and Berserk share more similarities than the Souls games.
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>>154643061
I've read almost all the books, not really. The closest I have is dark fantasy and the protagonist taking care of retarded girl.
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>>154614988
What about his god like country?
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>>154643098
It's only surface similarities but more so than the Souls games to be honest.

The brand has a similar function to the medallion.

Both Guts and Geralt use specialized weapons to kill monsters/demons.

Guts used to be rather apathetic but ever since taking on daycare duties he lost that much in common with Geralt.

Both are drowning in pussy.
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>>154601569
>Is the apostle of a literal manifestation of all evil really evil or just misunderstood.
You can't be serious.
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good night gents remember new chapter soon!
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>>154635210
Fighting a battle and dying for a cause is not the same as being sacrificed with no hopes of survival.
The new world only has peace and prosperity in Falconia and the elven woods, which Griffith is burning down one by one. And it's massively hinted that Falconia won't be peaceful for long.
Guts wanted to be Griffith's equal so that he might consider him a friend, Griffith's words, not Guts'. Griffith was muted and crippled because of his own treason, not against the leader of a band of mercenaries but the state.
In summary, you're a blind white sheep




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