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Do you approve of Rem as a psycho maid?
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>>154783557
why is ram blue
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>>154783557
Yeah, Rem can be everything she wants! Even a potato! She is also funnier when she goes all psycho and then back to cute rather than being in doormat mode all the time. Some of the best interactions with Subaru happened when she didn't fully trust him and when the two were fighting against impossible odds.
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She's my little fuck monkey.
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I approve of her because she has Inori Minase as her VA.
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>>154783557
why is she fading?
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>>154784148
>doormat mode
this is a stretch even by going only with the anime
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>>154784148
Can't remember her being a doormat for even once. She's cute and passive but not submissive. She even calls the MC out for his bullshit, calls him pathetic and declines his proposal to run away with him.
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>>154786127
She actually looks like a doormat in the anime though.
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She's a psycho slut just like her used up sister. But with less experience in some things. Even brought MC much pain and misery.

Witch girl all the way. She's the only good one.
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>>154786737
Only because the background was omitted. Otherwise her sweetest was calling him pathetic with a soft smile
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>>154783557
I want Rem to activate Oni mode in the bed and crush my bones to dust
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>>154783557
Why did you post a blue ram?
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>>154787224
A cute!
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>>154787454
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>>154787224
while gently caressing Subaru's hair. I don't remember WN/LN Rem doing something like that while being a jerk to Subaru.
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>>154787797

...Bro, you have to stop this madness.
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>>154787875
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>>154787982
Why would i?
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>>154783557
I want to sexually fuck Rem-rin in the pussy!
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>>154788121

You have to stop being a bully.
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>>154788434
I am not a bully
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>>154788059
Um yes, she does say it in the anime. But my point is that Rem criticizing and talking shit to Subaru while also petting him and making lovely gestures is out of character for Rem compared to her in LN/WN.
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>>154788635
Not really out of character.
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>>154788408
is there a way to non-sexually fuck a pussy?
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>>154788635
Why would it be out of character for her? She's always honest with him be it bad or good. She would even compliment and at the same time shittalk him just one sentence.

>[Rem: Subaru-kun’s manly eyes are blind, so he wouldn’t expect it.]

>[Subaru: Rem-san you’re being unusually bitter! Sorry, it’s my fault, yes.]
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>>154788838
Gently jam it in.
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>>154788799
I just feel like most of the times Rem acts way harsher and stricter and more aggressive in manga/LN/WN than she does in the anime. For example, anime Rem turns into a blushing mess pretty quickly, or tries to be cute/adorable/kawaii even when being strict and criticizing Subaru, or even begs Subaru to be stay with her even though Subaru is actually the one to do it.

>>154788952
I'm complaining about how Rem strokes and caresses Subaru's hair while also giving him shit. I don't think WN/LN Rem could act that cute and strict to Subaru at the same time really. She would either tease him the fuck out or shittalk Subaru to death as far as I know.
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>>154788838
Lock Ferris in a basement.
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>>154789497
Who cares about the shitty anime adaptation? It's completely in character for her to shittalk him in whatever situation they are. It doesn't matter if they cook or if she gives him a lap pillow or something. She's just honest with him.

>I'm complaining about how Rem strokes and caresses Subaru's hair while also giving him shit
That's her thing though. She's not even acting cute in that scene.
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So, is the catfaggothunt season finally here?

Can we finally abolish shitty double-eared subhuman and let the fire take care of everyone he loves?
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>want to marry this potato
>"you'll have to buckle down and read the garbage wn then, friendo"
>potato falls asleep right after the end of the anime and still hasn't fucking woken up yet
WHAT'S WITH THIS AUTISTIC FUCKING JAP? HOW DOES HE NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOOD ABOUT HIS SHIT AND WHAT IS NOT?
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>>154790245
Double-eared?
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>>154790245

So you don't want to hurt only Ferri, but Crusch-sama too... you are a monster.
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>>154790320
There're many side stories and the Rem What IF as compansation
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>>154790412 oh shit my mistake
Crusch is to be spared, it's a waste of a good fuckhole
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Laughing at Ram-sama!
Making jokes about being real horny so she'll self-consciously fuss with her forehead!
Teasing her as she crawls around on the carpet and promises clown-sama all sorts of lewd acts for earlier mana doses!
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>>154790467

You truly are the worst.
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>>154790554

No, just as horrible as you are.
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>>154790590

Well, go ahead. Explain further.
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we have this young infidel in our posession

Unless you post beautiful waifus we will cut his fingers off and make him regenerate them until his mana runs dry
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>>154790829
Why is Subaru wearing Felix's clothes?
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>>154790829

Here. You can't get more beautiful than Crusch-sama.

Now release Subaru.
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>>154789497
>Rem criticizing and talking shit to Subaru while also petting him and making lovely gestures is out of character for Rem
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>>154783557
i want to protect her smile
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Scans when?
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>>154790951
those used goods won't do

>>154790979
good try, turdgoblin
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>>154784148
Rem and Subaru make the perfect duo. Not even kidding. Even if they weren't in love with each other they still make a great tag team.
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>>154791288
You gonna eat that?
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>>154791288

>Used goods
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>>154791345
you can have them it
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>>154790954
I don't think those scenarios are even comparable but whatever. Plus, the way Rem behaves vastly differently in the manga than in the anime should give you some ideas about how anime Rem is inaccurately depicted.
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Why do people call her Ram now? What the
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Every thread until Rem wakes up.
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>>154791576
Yeah but despite being generally nicer in the anime she isn't really a doormat even there
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>>154790320
It's unclear. The anime director clearly didn't understand, since they cut out the most important Rem romance scenes, but the author's character profile for Rem was twice as long as the others. It just goes on about how her role ended up surpassing the author's expectations, and transforming the entire surface of the story and Subaru's characterization from his original plans.

Which is really why I'm hoping they don't continue pretending that Subaru's confession never happened in the LN, which seems to have rewritten a few scenes to hide things the anime didn't include.

Because I'll say it now. Rem's influence played a large role in making the series as enjoyable as it is, even after she's gone.

I'm just not into the whole child romance thing that comes up too often. At this point, I think Clind might be Tappei's self-insert.
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>>154791779
Well she's not entirely a doormat, but I feel like she actually gives the impression of being one.
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>>154791993
in the anime I mean.
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>>154791993
>but I feel like she actually gives the impression of being one.
Well, that's actually what Subaru's internal monologue goes into during From Zero. He's always been treating her like she's some doormat, and is always surprised whenever she insults him, despite the fact that she's never stopped insulting him and regularly does so in every single chapter or story in which she's featured.

During From Zero, he realizes he hasn't been truly seeing the real Rem, and that she was never a doormat.
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>>154783557
no

Rem is shit and rezero is even worse than naruto
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Scans when?
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>>154791846
an awfully unwaifu-ish face

anon, i am disappointed with your choises

It's like you truly want catboy to die
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>>154792274
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>>154792274

It's Subaru, so it's okay if he dies.
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>>154791993
Subaru is more obedient than she is. Rem is the despotic in their relationship, Rigel did even comment on this in the IF story
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>>154792348
looks like your judgment did you no good

do you think it'll be able to regrow the tail?
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>>154792783

I said already, it's Natsuki Subaru, it doesn't matter if he dies!
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>>154791992
Given the despair at Rem's coma and her influence to Subaru in arcs 4-5-6 that were already out at the time (and the visits at her bedside) the Anime director has very little excuse for what he did in relegating Rem to some side character
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>Name her "Rem"
>Rem is a stage of sleep in English.
>Name him "Subaru"
>Subaru "woke up in a fantasy world" just as he was crossing the street. In addition to being a car brand, Subaru is what we call the Pleiades star cluster in English. This is also called "the seven sisters" in English, designating Subaru as the worst of the seven deadly sins (Pride).
So since everyone is named for a reason, why is this fucking slut bag named "Ram"?
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>>154793026
Because she gets rammed every night by clown cock.
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>>154793026

"To get Rammed"
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>>154793026
Because Rem and Ram are name after Left (REfto) and Right (RAito)
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Reminder that Ram will chew Subaru out
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Rem is a filthy slut who is only good for rape.
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>>154792973
Well, that's Emilia faggotry for you. They can talk up how they made sure Emilia wore different clothes and styled her hair different, so every appearance would be memorable, but Emilia just isn't a very memorable character. I think the LN changed her behavior a bit in Arc 4 to make her better, but fuck those changes.
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>>154792973
>the Anime director has very little excuse for what he did in relegating Rem to some side character
They obviously want to even out the fanbase so it wouldn't be dominated by just Remfags. They failed at their first attempt anyway but I imagine they would try even harder with the second season. So I expect they would go full "intense friendship" for Subaru x Rem in the anime (as well as in the LN apparently).
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>>154793026
Oh god finally a reason to post this!

Picture Ram, half-naked, running down an abandoned city street at night. Tears are running down her face as she gasps and sobs. You hear an odd noise, quiet at first, barely there but soon it becomes louder. Squeaking. Constant squeaking from multiple sources. Then they come around the corner.

Roswaals. A dozen of them, their shoes making loud squeaking and honking noises, their painted on smiles only slightly larger than the real smiles they have on their faces. Ram is barefoot and is quickly caught and surrounded by these painted up attackers.

Before she can cry out, a balloon giraffe is shoved down her throat as several Roswaals take out their own balloons and begin putting them onto their throbbing erections. She's bent over one of the Roswaals while two others come at her from the front and behind. They quickly penetrate her and begin honking their horns in rhythm with their thrusts while the idle Roswaals perfom somersaults and pratfalls as they wait their turns with her.

The honking begins to speed up as the Roswaals near orgasm and increase the rate of their thrusting. Shortly after, they all pull out of her and ejaculate into their balloons. They quickly remove them, blow them up and make them into different animals as the other Roswaals move in to take their turns.

This goes on for nearly two hours. Ram is exhausted and bruised, trembling from the cold and the trauma. Most of the Roswaals have left, save one final Roswaal fucking her throat raw. He pulls his cannon out and blows his load all over her face, then stands back to admire his handiwork.

She looks up at him, tears in her red eyes and tries to talk.

He hits her in the face with a pie.
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>>154794927
Taking away from Rem doesn't bring Emilia anything though like you can see. Going full Emilia will just backfire since the people who didn't like her in season 1 will not start liking her in season 2 especially if Rem has to pay for it.
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>>154794927
>butcher the story in order to make another character more likeable
Unprofessional
And stupid as the audience could tell that the better character got fucked over
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>>154795049
Remfags arrogance knows no bounds.
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>>154795117
Numbers don't lie, anon
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>>154795013

Now you bully Ram too?
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>>154794927
>I expect they would go full "intense friendship" for Subaru x Rem in the anime (as well as in the LN apparently).
That's kind of improving Emilia at the cost of making Subaru worse.
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>>154795013
Holy shit.
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>>154795159
Waifubaits always are extremely popular, yes.
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>>154795254
Name some
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>>154795167
yes
no brakes
Crusch next
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>>154795254
But Emilia is just at 7%
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>>154795411
I think she used to be below Otto when Arc 4 of the WN was fresh.
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>>154795411
Don't worry! She has still five more arcs to get to the 8%
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>>154795297

No, don't bully Crusch-sama. Please.

The Ram one was hilarious, but please don't bully Ferri or Crusch-sama.
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>>154795013
You motherfucker. How dare you make me laugh at this!
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>>154795021
So what do you want them to do to improve Emilia and make her lovable when she is usually if not always overshadowed by Rem? So removing Rem from the story temporarily would be the most logical and effective choice here.
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>>154795411
On that poll that doesn't have all the characters and has only like 4k votes? Sure.
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>>154795724
Forcing the audience to like an idealized character by removing the the fan favorite is dumb and won't work like you can see.
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>>154795760
>only like 4k votes
>only
Anon you serious?
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>>154795724
Rem is a potato already, there is no need to fuck over her further.

Also improving Emilia is a lost battle as she's blandness incarnate to the point that aven usually superficial memers of the audience can see it and artificially trying to improve her standing has the most probable result of making thins more sour.
They'd be better off trying to sell more Rem merch
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>>154795760
>doesn't have all the characters
It has Emilia in it, means if there were more characters she'd have even less than 7%
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>>154795822
Yes, the Crunchyroll one for example had like 20k.
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>>154795911
You should go back to school if you believe that 4k votes is "only". Crunchyroll is anime only btw.
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>>154795013
Oh wow.
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>>154795911
And Emilia was like 7% there as well, under fucking Puck.
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>>154795760
>only like 4k votes
That's not how statistics work
With a sample of 1000 the margin of error is already just 3 points of percentage

>>154795911
>>154795988
Rem 8650 49.5%
Subaru 2246 12.8%
Puck 1671 9.6%
Emilia 1225 7.0%

Emilia still gets trounced and is even behind Puck
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>>154796139
These popularity contests are autism
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>>154796207
Autism is when you think that your bias is more meaningful than multiple polls
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>>154795840
You know one thing that actually annoys me about the scene changes in the LN? They made Subaru into a worse character. Trying to put more focus on Emilia shouldn't require removing focus from Rem or removing character from Subaru.

If it's not fixed by the next LN release, and they continue to act like the confession to Rem never happened, then it'll be clear they don't give a shit if the LN is internally consistent or about dropping important plot points.
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>>154796207
The people have spoken.
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Oni maid vs dragon maid, who wins?
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Isn't she just a moeblob now?
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>>154796427
Tohru is so broken that in the Re:Zero universe only other bullshit characters like Reinhard, Regulus or Satella can beat her
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>>154796427
In a fight the dragon, in everything else the oni.
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>>154796427
In strict powerlevels? The dragon maid, because dragons in that show can basically just arbitrarily do whatever they want.
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>>154783557
>Do you approve of Rem as a psycho maid?

Psycho? Did I miss something in the anime?
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>>154796504
Yes?
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>>154796547
Even angry Rem is cute. Moe onis are the best.
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Rem is psycho only against the cultists, otherwise she's not lethally crazy
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>>154796442
Nope. She's always been both a cute girl and a psycho maid. She's eagerly tortured and killed since she was 8, and would return to her life as a cute little meido just fine. Give her a captive, and she'll keep the guy alive as she slowly dismembers him.

And she never stopped being that way. Subaru's influence didn't make her less violent. It didn't make her more merciful. It mostly just made her less stressed and more optimistic about herself.
>>154796504
It's made more apparent in the source material. Rem is consistently pretty fucking brutal, and is quite casual and unhesitating about it.
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>Felis is next on the list - the charming cat boy is a loyal knight to Crusch, and to the 522 of you who consider this charmer your favorite Re:ZERO character. Felis is deserving of all the love in the world - this capable healer always knows the right thing to do and say, and plays support to Subaru and his royal candidate, Crusch, in the most incredible way. He’ll make you think his plans were your idea, and be the cutest character on screen while he does it ~ <3

Oh wow, so nicely written. I don't know if even I could have written something this nice about Ferri.

Are they trying to get me to subscribe to the wonderful Crunchyroll™ services?
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>>154783557
Yes I sure do.
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>>154796841
You make it sound like she runs around and attacks random people for no reasons.
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>>154796547
I kinda want Rem to looker even scarier (similar to pic related) in that scene to show how terrifying berserk Rem could be.
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>>154796949

Thank you.

>Felix: Staying up so late is bad for my skin...
>Crusch: You can rest on my shoulder.
>Crusch: You can rest on my shoulder.
>Crusch: You can rest on my shoulder.
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>>154796841
She does so to cultists that arguably had it coming given the suffering they inflicted to her and her sister
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>>154796817
I'm pretty sure she's got no real concerns about killing people. At the very least, she doesn't mind severely injuring them.
>>154796987
Did I? Then forgive me. She doesn't usually go full insane rage mode unless it's the Witch Cult, but she's undeniably capable of brutalizing people without a second thought. She doesn't for it for no reason, but she's scary as hell when she's doing it and she's clearly not entirely sane.
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>>154796547
>Yes?

Are you honestly expecting people to be perfectly calm and composed if people's lives, whom they care about, are on the line? Do you honestly fucking think if you wave a knife in front a girl to mess with her (even jokingly), her family won't look to put 2 bullets in your skull? Come on man, you're only crazy when your emotions don't line up with the scenario.

Now, let's go back over this, where in the anime was she acting like a psycho maid?
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>>154797245
She specifically lost control of herself. Her reasons for trying to use that power made sense, but she legit went crazy in the woods and almost killed Subaru AND Ram.
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>>154797176
She doesn't torture normal people she fights, or get all enraged, but she's still pretty fucking brutal. The fact that she smiles cheerfully while doing so is deliberately shown to be a little disturbing to Subaru.
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>>154797226
I remember something like not going for the kill and just subduing someone who attempted to kill Annerose.
Rem can be scary and say weird things but otherwise she wants to be nice
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>>154797334
>I remember something like not going for the kill and just subduing someone who attempted to kill Annerose.
Which story was this? I'm not saying that Rem isn't a sweet or kind girl. I'm saying that she's also a bit of a psycho at the same time.

Torturing a man to death, while healing them to keep them alive throughout it, isn't something a normal 8 year old girl would do even if they were in a blind rage. That takes a kind of cold and cruel rationality.
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>>154797245
Considering how she was treated her whole life and that there're only two people she genuinely cares about it's really no surprise that she doesn't show mercy to threats.
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Does Rem get a kick out of unsettling people by being verbally ominous?
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>>154797597
It's clear she gets a kick out of riling up Subaru and getting him to react, so she probably thinks that kind of stuff is funny.
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>>154797597
Kind of. I think she likes to pretend she's joking and its a kind of dark humor, but Subaru understands that on some level she isn't.
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>>154797320
>She specifically lost control of herself. Her reasons for trying to use that power made sense, but she legit went crazy in the woods and almost killed Subaru AND Ram.

Going berserk? I wouldn't call that being a psycho maid. A lot of shonen characters go drunk in power.

When you say psycho, that would mean, her personality is twisted where she's out for blood and out to hurt people for no reason. Not, her abilities cause her to lose her humanity if left unchecked.

>>154796841
>It's made more apparent in the source material. Rem is consistently pretty fucking brutal, and is quite casual and unhesitating about it.

Okay, your attached image makes a bit more sense, it's not fitting to say psycho but more apt to say unforgiving and merciless. I might check out the LN some time to see what you mean.
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>>154797467
She attempted the same on Subaru and she was plenty angry then

Didn't she do so on Fog to extort information on the other surviving cultists?
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>>154783557
Well, it's Rem, so fuck yes.
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>>154786127
>this is a stretch even by going only with the anime
>>154786611
>Can't remember her being a doormat for even once. She's cute and passive but not submissive

She's still chasing after Subaru and would willingly do whatever he says to please him even though he already told her he loves Emilia and is going to have her.

Sounds like doormat material to me.
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>>154797915
>would willingly do whatever he say
Except she doesnt
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>>154797245
Well the fact that Rem sadistically and brutally murdered Subaru even though she gave him a very cute and lovely smile just few hours before in episode 11 and that she showed no concern or remorse over his death shortly afterwards should tell you something about her psychopathic personality I guess.
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>>154797915
>would willingly do whatever he says to please him
Why post a smug picture when the lie is so easy to spot?
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>>154797828
>Didn't she do so on Fog to extort information on the other surviving cultists?
Yep.
>>154797804
>Not, her abilities cause her to lose her humanity if left unchecked.
Well, that's not really true. Using their horn doesn't cause an Oni to lose their humanity, so to speak. It doesn't cause them to giggle like some crazy bitch. It just makes them feel powerful. That insane giggling was purely a Rem thing.

Rem's personality is actually a little twisted. She actually was partially using that fight against the dogs as stress-relief.
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>>154783557
NEVER stick your dick in crazy.
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>>154798075
Given she was convinced he was a cultist she was probably seething under the surface. At some point the facade was slipping, with Ram intervening to cover for her with the haircut excuse
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>>154797467
Considering he tortured her as well, its kinda just a form of repayment.
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>>154798159
I think that smile may have actually been genuine, since she herself seems a little surprised by it. However, considering how inappropriately cheerful her smiles can be, I wonder how Rem would react to a Witch Cultist talking about Oni in such a casual manner.

So, let's take your theory into consideration, and suppose she was thinking "Oh, it's going to be really fun to kill you later, you fucking murderous son of a bitch".
>>154798209
Sure. I won't argue that he didn't deserve it.
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>>154798156
She's the exception. The kind of crazy you take home to meet your parents.
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>>154798075
>Well the fact that Rem sadistically and brutally murdered Subaru even though she gave him a very cute and lovely smile just few hours before in episode 11 and that she showed no concern or remorse over his death shortly afterwards should tell you something about her psychopathic personality I guess.

Are you talking about one of Subaru's death's in the Mansion arc? The guy parked up in the woods at a vantage point near the Mansion and brandished a knife after saying he was going to go about his business. Not knowing who he was and why he was there, with a knife, the twins weren't going to take any chances. Not when their Master has enemies out there that want to kill him.

And it was Ram that finished him off.
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>>154798401
No, he's talking about when he was dying from the dog bite.
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>>154798401
Nah I'm talking about the scene where Subaru got killed in the hallway when he was crawling to Emilia's room.
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>>154798328
That smile was genuine and if Subaru didn't try to sneak into Emilia's room at midnight while throwing up every few steps, she probably wouldn't have killed him.
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>>154798501
Yeah. She probably wouldn't have killed him. I actually half believe her explanation that it was a mercy kill. She's able to kill people a lot slower than she killed Subaru, and Subaru did feel it was a relatively quick death compared to dying of the dog bite.
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I refuse to believe that Rem is usually cruel
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>>154798772
She's usually a sweet girl that just protects her family.
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I hope Summryanon is doing well.
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>>154798493
>Nah I'm talking about the scene where Subaru got killed in the hallway when he was crawling to Emilia's room.

Oh, the second death. That was Rem? I thought Ram killed him because I saw wind cuts. What happened in that round?
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>>154798959
She whacked him with her flail.
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>>154798772
Oh, no. She's not usually cruel. If you think about it seriously, Subaru's scent must have been raping her olfactory sense with pure evil by that point. Yet she still took the time to try and comfort him by holding his hand, despite what that scent reminds her of.

Do you know just how much of a sweet and kind girl she would have to be to do that for him in those circumstances?

My point is that Rem is both cruel and merciless, and ridiculously sweet and kindhearted.
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>>154798959
>subaru dies of curse
>subaru looks suspicious gets flail'd
>subaru leaves but watches rem disables him ram mercy kills him
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>>154799024
Or to put this more concisely, Rem's kindness is on a level where her desire to comfort a suffering man can overpower her hatred of the Witch Cult and their scent.

Just something to think about.
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>>154799171
The cultists and the clown ruined such a nice girl
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Rem is shit and her fanbase is cancer
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>>154799354
and the villagers too.
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>>154799535
However that scene in particular is a nightmare Rem had. The villagers don't really despise her but also do nothing about her inferiority complex towards her sister.
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>>154799535
Well, it's not like them ever actually told her that. At least not in that tone of voice.
>>154799685
She actually can't remember how many hundreds of times she was told that Ram was the only reason she wasn't executed as a baby.
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>>154799685
The village chief isn't helping, and the normal villagers are more incidentally feeding her complex instead of being mean on purpose.
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>>154799685
Nah, the villagers are pretty big assholes to Rem. Ram got included in everything while Rem had to wait outside and stacked rocks until her sister came back.
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>>154800089
This one is the most understandable as they wanted to involve Ram to saave the village. Rem was excluded because she was considered a normal kid and ther was no need to burden her with the village's issues, the problem was that there were no other kids and thus she had no one to play with.

The general point is that the were accidentally offensive rather than wishing she never was born.
After all she was able to recognize their bodies in the fire and it still did a number on her, it wasn't just the death of her parents and Ram losing the horn
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>>154800595
>able to recognize their bodies
Just their dicks. Rem spent a lot of time remembering each and every person in the village by their dick alone.
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>>154800665
Not that there were other discernible traits when they were burned to a skeleton

But I still have the idea that she cared
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>>154800901
I'm sure she cared, they all had two big majestic dicks and she only has one sad little dick.
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>>154798885
Did something happen?
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Rem's dick is the cutest
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>>154801422
Its a cute feminine dick
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>>154801415
I just hope he's doing well with his studies.
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Loli witch butt.
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>>154802144
Why are all the Witches except Carmilla so lewd?
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>>154802470
Carmillia looks like pure sex to whoever is looking at her though.
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>>154802613
Is it really that straight forward? If so, Carmilla was just holding back on her power in order to help Subaru without brainwashing him.

I thought she made people see someone they adore when they looked at her, and not just "now you love me", from looking at her.
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>>154802731
When it comes down to it, Carmilla was designed as a genuine moeblob. That's why Subaru can see through her act.
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>>154802731
It doesn't compulse you to like her, she just looks absolutely like whatever you find most desirable.
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>>154803347
Well, her true form is also very breathtaking.
>>154802816
To add to this, I've noticed a lot of Rem stories and scenes almost seem like they're meant to address reasons why people wouldn't take her seriously. Like the idea that Rem has no interests other than Subaru, which is countered with revelations in the short stories to show she's got the most varied set of interests in the mansion.

The scenes where she regularly insults him, or the Carmilla scene, are counters to the idea that she's nothing but a moeblob waifu bait who does nothing but suck Subaru's dick all day.
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>>154803544
>Well, her true form is also very breathtaking.
Her true form is mundane. Literally her backstory is that see got upset about being put on a pedestal.
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>>154804090
No, I meant that literally. You forget to breathe when you see her in her true form.
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>>154804253
Unclear. She could have full control of it, and just seeing her true form is not enough for that to happen.

If that was the case, the other witches would be fucked and Subaru saw her again in the tea party. So she most likely controls when it happens.
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>>154803347
So would Elsa see her as a bunch of guts?
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Well, just started making progress reading through this backstory, and it's done it again. Starting off all comfy SoL, then it dumps on the horror. That seems to be Rem's life so far.
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>>154806137

>Q: How can I get Miss Elsa to love me?
>A: Become an intestine.
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>>154806356
Shit. I don't like this guy's powers, and I don't like what he's talking about. I'm getting a good picture of how the Witch Cult planned their extermination of the Oni now.
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>>154806687
There's actually an explanation as to how it happened? Or a why?
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>>154806803
Well, I'm figuring out about it through this guy's powers, along with the other cultists. This is serious spoilers, but I won't be giving away the introduction this time. I'll let that take you by surprise, unless you really want to be spoiled that badly. All of the strength has gone out of Rem's muscles, and this guy is cheerfully talking about how he never got the time to properly dissect the other Oni on their mountain. Oh, and he backhanded her when she tried to call for help. He's a very pleasant man.
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>[Ram harboured an indescribable feeling of aggravation when it came to Subaru. Call it visceral repulsion, or antipathy fostered over their time spent interacting, for the feeling probably did include such sentiments—but Ram inevitably had to think that this was ingrained in something deeper.
>Almost as if he were a detested foe, who had stolen something precious from her—that kind of baffling emotion was what Ram felt for Subaru.]

Oh, so Ram apparently is jealous of Subaru for stealing her sister's attention. Interesting.
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>>154806687
Is there any reason why the Witch's Cult wanted to obliterate the Oni clan so badly? I can't help but think it has something to do with Rem even though eliminating Ram and getting rid of that huge potential threat to the organization would sound like a better reason.
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>>154807339
I always interpreted it as Ram blaming Subaru for getting her sister erased rather than jealousy.
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>>154807021
I just want her to be happy.
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>>154807415
but why? It's completely Roswaal's fault. He should be blamed instead.
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>>154807339
>Oh, so Ram apparently is jealous of Subaru for stealing her sister's attention. Interesting.
Well, she definitely is that, though this also probably has truth to it. >>154807415
>>154807414
She missed her chance to ask that. It may be revealed later.
>>154807442
But happy moments are when the worst things always happen.
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>>154807415
Ram doesn't know Rem even exists at the point of that quote, so I don't think that interpretation is right.
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>>154807507
Ram doesn't know that. Plus Subaru blames himself for losing Rem so.
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>>154807632
Ram knows about the Gospel, therefore she knows it must be Roswaal's fault. Also, Subaru totes blames Roswaal upon finding out about the Gospel, which is why Subaru tried strangling the clown.
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>>154807777
Again, Ram doesn't know that. Plus destite her knowing about the gospel she doesn't know the full extent of his kekaiku and can be a cunning person. Hence why Rem sold herself to Roswaal to get Ram treatment without Ram's knowledge.
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>>154807606
Yeah, but that feeling is still there. Hence why she is unsure why she hates Subaru so much.
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>>154807978
Feeling of what though? How can she feel anger at Subaru for getting her sister erased when she doesn't even know herself that her sister was erased?

I think it's more like the other anon said and that she's jealous that Subaru 'stole' her sister, but can't remember where/why that jealousy comes from.

(Also I think in LN11 there was a part where Subaru apologized to Ram about Rem and Ram's response suggested she didn't really blame him for it. But I don't remember the exact lines/wording so don't quote me on that)
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>>154806803
>how it happened?
Well, how it happened is becoming clearer. Please note, all spoilers are spoilers. This guy was born with some condition which causes his body to pollute mana and transform it to poison. Oni draw a large amount of mana from the atmosphere, especially when their horns are out. That's how the Witch Cult was able to do it, despite Oni being the strongest race.
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>Reading WN
>Read scene where Subaru kisses Emilia in the tomb
F-Fucking Subaru you piece of shit! How could you do this to Rem! You don't deserve her love, especially when you fucking break her heart like this you pathetic mongrel!
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>>154808358
How will stop her from being killed I wonder?

>>154808734
Well he kinda had to. If he didn't he wouldn't have been able to save Sanctuary.
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>>154808358
Oh, and the Witch Cult troops definitely have some kind of weird teleport ability where they melt out of the ground.
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>>154808763
I don't care! He can't fucking betray Rem's feelings like this! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>154808804
But he really didn't though. Sure he gave a kiss to Emilia but it was the sake of saving the lives of many.
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>>154795013

Best thing I have ever read.
Clown porn is best porn.
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>>154796359

Wait...the confession was in the LN right?
Are they really fucking it up?
Because honestly, this is the first time I actually care about the romance in a story ( probably because it has actual impact on the story and because Rem is best girl eternally.).
Would'nt be handy to do seeing as Rem basically carries the series.
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>>154808763
>How will stop her from being killed I wonder?
Well, Ram probably needs a better reason to fall for the clown than free candy, if you know what I mean.
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>>154809070
>Wait...the confession was in the LN right?
Yep, I actually have scans of the pages. It's just that the later scenes where it's referenced, in the novels that came out after the anime started, haven't been present. The loop where he talked about it with Beako is gone, so that conversation never happened.

His internal monologue no longer references his love for Rem, or his desire to have both Rem and Emilia, when he talks about her later. He doesn't tell anyone he loves her, he doesn't even think to himself that he loves her, despite the confession still being there in the volume.

So. Something got fucked, and it's probably related to the anime.
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>>154809070
The confession is still there. Subaru still loves Rem. People still understand that Subaru loves Rem.

A couple of scenes from Arc 4 have been altered for various reasons but it's not as big as people freaking out here would have you believe. There's no reason for such a major plot point to change (unless it's going to be dropped in the WN too somehow).

Just relax~

>>154809156
>His internal monologue no longer references his love for Rem, or his desire to have both Rem and Emilia
>he doesn't even think to himself that he loves her, despite the confession still being there in the volume.

Yes, he does. Where are you even getting this from. Stop freaking out.
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>>154809214
>Yes, he does. Where are you even getting this from. Stop freaking out.
I read his internal monologues. Certain lines were cut out. Whether or not it's still obvious that he loves Rem, certain lines were changed.
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>>154809268
Read the original text?

I've read them too.I don't know what lines in particular you're referring too but there are plenty of monologue/stuff still in the LN about Subaru's feelings for Rem.
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>>154809373
Yes. But do any explicitly mention that he loves her?
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>>154809384
I'm pretty sure there are.
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>>154809214

Good.
Removing the Rem romance part would've really annoyed me.
The story is still interesting, but it would destroy the emotional part of it if it was removed.

Hope that when the anime continues they will make up for their cutting of the confession scenes and add them in flashbacks.
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>>154809408
Well, that's the thing I was noticing in the parts I read, and I even asked someone else for confirmation. They confirmed my findings. It didn't explicitly mention he loved her, though it still made it pretty obvious in their opinion.
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>>154795013
Its been a long time since I read this
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>>154809454
I was the person you were talking to (I'm the one who wrote the google doc comparison).

Subaru does not tell other people out loud that he loves Rem. You are right about that. It is downplayed compared to the WN somewhat, you are right about that.

But these
>His internal monologue no longer references his love for Rem, or his desire to have both Rem and Emilia
>he doesn't even think to himself that he loves her, despite the confession still being there in the volume.

are not true.
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>>154809074
>Roswaal is the one who saves Rem

I bet that fucker planned this too.
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>>154809516
Well, it didn't mention it in the parts I saw. The way I see it, the phrasing is important. Do his thoughts 100% clearly say that he loves Rem?
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>>154809601
Not him but it doesn't really need to be. Its quite obvious that Subaru loves Rem. What I'm more worried about is the Carmilla scene, as the removed Subaru's touching moment from "Maid Maid Maid". You need to calm down.
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>>154809668
I'm perfectly calm. I'm not sure why people assume I'm freaking out whenever I bring this up. I'm just saying that I noticed a few lines cut from his internal monologue, and those were the ones that explicitly said she was a girl he loved. The ones saying she's a large presence in his heart are all there, but that's still not so clear as I'd like.

I think it's a little worrying, but I'm not freaking out over it or anything.
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>>154809450
It will NEVER continue.
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>>154806803
Usually the why for anything that the cultists do is that the Gospel told them something
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>>154809931
Didn't the producer say two days ago that the anime will continue?
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>>154810067

Yes it will.
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>>154810051
I'm expecting it to be revealed in the last chapter or so.
>>154809535
I'm not so sure about planning it, but he's kind of a bastard if he just let it happen. Let's just say the context of how this all happens is pretty unfortunate for more than just Rem. Hell, it's much more unfortunate for several people who definitely aren't Rem.
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>>154810067
No.
>>154810110
No.
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>>154810216
原作は続いており、アニメもこのままで終われません。
今後に期待して下さい。(プロデューサー/田中翔)

The original work continues, and so the anime cannot end here.
Look forward to what's coming next - Tanaka Shou (Producer)
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>>154810275
No.
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>>154809535
Well, at least we know that Roswaal knows is happening and is waiting for the right moment to swoop in after Rem get battered and abused again.
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I'm really sad that Rem is getting progressively damaged mentally by all of this happenings

Also can't shake the feelings that Roswaal following the Gospel is deliberately leading her to every cultist responsible for her village's destruction
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>>154809601
I'm not ignoring this by the way, I just don't have the time right now to thoroughly check the text, sorry. (also i went to eat food)

From a really quick check: during the carriage ride in LN10 Subaru tells Emilia that Rem is as important to him as Emilia (I'm reading the word as 'important' but it might be something closer to 'precious' or 'dear' so those might be more accurate I dunno). Followed by inner monologue where he thinks that Rem came to occupy an overly large portion of his heart and "without exaggeration, his feelings (toward her) were identical/similar in scale to his feelings towards Emilia".

This is followed by Emilia asking Subaru "you understand you're being soooo selfish right?" which is pretty self-evident in meaning unless you think Emilia is dumb enough to believe that Subaru can't have more than one 'friend' he cares about.

Also in LN11 the modified Subaru visits sleeping Rem scene still has these lines:
>[Subaru: ----Rem]
>As Subaru spoke that name, who could understand the maelstrom of emotion included in that single word? It was a torrent of endless emotion that could be directed to only one person in the world.
as well as his about how he steeled his heart but it crumbles when he's in front of her and blah blah.
There are probably more that I forgot.

If the EXACT wording is what's bugging you then I guess you're right that he never thinks or says "wow I really love Rem". But I don't really think that's necessary to show it or that anyone reading the text could be confused about the issue.
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>>154795013
I feel like the cum-filled balloon animals side story could be expanded on, but otherwise it's a pretty good clown-based erotica.
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>>154795013
also i fucking laughed, goddamn it. been a while since I've seen this
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>>154810760

I thought this is the first time that has been posted?
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>>154810791
it used to be just clown rape
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>>154789828
is that the only face you have?
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>>154810562
Look at it this way. The more suffering the better the payoff right?
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This is still the best piece of holy purity that has blessed this Universe.
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>>154810871

No, I have many.
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It's almost summer bros.

Arc 4 manga soon.
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>>154810878
But she's also turning into a vicious monster
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>>154811168

To be fair, rage mode Rem is fucking hot.
It's at that point she really started to pique my interest.
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>>154811343
Dude she's like 8
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>>154811343
It's still sad that a kind girl was turned into a broken mess full of repressed anger. At least it's admirable that after all of this she still wants to be and tries to do good
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>>154796359
He's not all around worse. He's smarter now and reading up on shit he might need in sanctuary and noticing things faster. Sure you could argue that it's for the sake of making the pacing faster, but it's still an add.

Being afraid of talking about how he loves Rem makes perfect sense if you consider the fact Emilia doesn't even remember her, and again, the scenes in the LN still happen. Like attempt double suicide, and him looking over her extremely serious. There's no bed talk, but we get to see more development from Ram, which the WN glanced over even though she was directly affected too.
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>>154795013
Speaking of raping Ram

Its time
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Has the Dragon AIDS which took the life of the EX translator, taken translatorbro too?
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>>154811142
I hope so, it's the only hope we have for getting another season of the anime
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>>154812192
It hasn't even been a week, relax.
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>>154812253
It's going to happen anyway
>>154810275
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>>154812270

I get worried pretty easily. I remember when the EX translator stopped updating and I was told that he's just taking a break. It's been 4 months now. He died.
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>>154811727
>It didn't even work
Raped Ram for nothing, guess they'll just have to try some more.
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>>154811727
Is it actually scanned?!
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>>154799171
I teared up reading this
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>>154811727
Well that was worth the wait.
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>>154811727
>Rem has two horns

0/10.
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>>154813827

Hai?
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>>154813827
>>154796949
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I have no knowledge of this series except from some doujinshi I read.

Can anyone tell me why the pink one called MC "Barusu"
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>>154814989
She's rather caustic in her banter so I think she intentionally misspells Subaru's name
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>>154814989
>>154815066

Barusu = Balls
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It actually got typesetted
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>>154814989
It's both a reference to something which i forgot what, at the moment, and purposely misspelling his name, so she calls him "balls".
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>>154815108
>>154815273
Balls as in scrotum?
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>>154808852
Where does it say Subaru only kissed Emilia to save Sanctuary? Mind you that Subaru's feelings for Emilia are just as strong as those for Rem (see >>154810702), so if Subaru wanted to kiss Rem, why wouldn't he want to kiss Emilia? Saying Subaru did it all only for Sanctuary is the same as saying Subaru confessed to Rem only because he got pranked and forced to do it.
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>>154815870
Because when Subaru was comforting Emilia he was actually wanting to talk to Puck to where Puck said that he has to comfort his daughter or else. While also being in a bet with Roswaal to save sanctuary on this loop. Emilia is one of the cornerstones to saving Sanctuary as Echidna kicked him out of the trials leaving only Emilia to pass all 3. Not to mention the confession could have been completely prevented if Subaru just followed Emilia's wishes to stay by her bedside only to have Subaru leave shortly after she fell asleep. To which Subaru had to amp up due to his previous fuck-up and panic of having one of the people needed to win his bet missing and not wanting to do the trial.

While Rem was due to a prank she wanted to play on Subaru. It was on Subaru's own volition that he tried to kiss Rem, as Rem did not need to be convinced nor were there outside forces at play influencing his decisions other than the girl herself. But when it came to Emilia it was because Emilia was not convinced by his confession to her, which forced Subaru's hand as she is needed for a number of things.

Now don't get me wrong, Subaru does love Emilia but if all of the cascading events and other individuals in exception to the girl herself quite literally pushing Subaru towards Emilia he might have not went for the kiss in the first place.
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Where is summary anon? He usually talks here and there, but i don't think i saw him appearing in the threads lately.
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>>154816658

I'm worried that the Dragon AIDS might have gotten him. It got the EX translator.
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>>154783557
She was a good character then but turned to shit when she went dere dere doki doki for faggot MC. Glad she literally disappeared.
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>>154816658

He's probably just busy, chill.
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>>154816777
Nice trips for a good post. Checked.
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>>154815870
The point is that Subaru might have wanted to kiss Emilia but the "quantity" of he desired to do so is obfuscated by the fact that he *needed* to kiss er to prevent the death of a lot of people he cared about.

Partial tangent: from >>154810702 and other disquisition you can deduct that Rem ≥ Emilia in which subaru tries to enforce Rem = Emilia . By this premise you cannot use transitivity to conclude "if he wanted to kiss Rem then he would want to kiss Emilia" as this would be a certain implication only if Emilia ≥ Rem wich is something that Subaru utterly fails to demonstrate and the post you cited cannot sustain.
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>>154816658
I don't know about Summaryanon, but I've got Finals right now.
He probably has Finals right now, too.
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>>154799535
How relevant was the "kill all twins" policy to their declining population?
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>>154817200
Probably not much in general as twins should be a relatively rare occurrence.
It was almost decisive in this case as they were the only kids born in decades
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>>154810702
>If the EXACT wording is what's bugging you then I guess you're right that he never thinks or says "wow I really love Rem". But I don't really think that's necessary to show it or that anyone reading the text could be confused about the issue.
Well, that's the exact point I was making. The original text directly referred to Rem as a girl he loved. Now it doesn't. It says everything but that, and does make it extremely obvious, but it's still odd that it no longer states it directly.

I'm not saying it's "INTENSE FRIENDSHIP" or anything. It's just weird how the language of his internal monologues was also shifted a bit like that.
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>>154817688
>Rem's romance will be removed making everything about Emilia
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>>154817688
It's the damn editor. They are removing almost every interaction between him and Rem post coma, and are making Emilia interactions more prominent. Not only that they are removing scenes that truly illustrate his suffering

The editor is probably an animefag, and it's going to kill this series
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The editor is /my guy/ too!
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>>154818243
It only shows how much Ferris and Crusch are inconsequential
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>>154818160
Why does Tappei let this happen tho?
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>>154818243
It'll be funny if they don't end up with eachother
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>>154818334

I don't see the logic behind this
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>>154818404
Their side of the story is not touched because nobody cares about it
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>>154818379
Editors have authority. Even if he's trying to cut down on arc 4, the editor has a say on what will be cut out, and in this case the overly brutal scenes as well as his spergs for Rem are being cut down on.
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>>154818012
>>154818160
I don't think it's that bad. Just a bit concerning, but it all depends on how it turns out. Personally, I don't like how the changes impact Subaru's characterization, so I wanted to make people aware of them. I still expect they'll have Subaru clearly state it later on, but additional scenes will probably have to be added or reworked as a result.
>>154818379
My personal theory is that reworking certain scenes might make it easier to adapt for the anime.
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>>154818455

>Their side of the story is not touched

What? What side? What should they show?
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>>154818474
Authority of Idiocy

Not even the usual shortsighted greed makes sense given which is the merch that sells
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>>154818474
Well, the initial appearance of Invisible Providence is also suspiciously absent, isn't it? I actually think it's important for it to be shown before the final fight against Garf, or else it'll look like an asspull.

So really, I'm wondering how they're going to show it. Tappei seems to like introducing concepts before they're immediately relevant, so I still think he'll do a subtle Invisible Providence reveal. I'm just wondering how and when.
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>>154818455
>>154818482

I'm still trying to figure out what he meant by this.
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>>154818477
>reworking certain scenes to fit the anime
THAT'S EXACTLY THE PROBLEM
The anime was SHIT in arc 3. That is exactly why I'm worried, Whitefox killed important characterization. It's going to become bland!
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>>154783557
Season 2 fucking when?
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>>154818815
A year or two
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>>154818751
Well yes. I'm also disappointed that he never strangled Roswaal or got an eye punched out. It feels weird to me that Echidna was able to contact him before he ever reached Sanctuary. It's doubly odd that that certain Leweses seem to already have special names and outfits.

None of the changes seem like good ideas to me.
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>Tappei, the editor and the illustrator added a nice touching scene between Ferri and Crusch-sama for the LN.

They are all /my guys/.
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>>154818911
>No punished Subaru
>No Roswaal getting his just deserts
>Echidna contacting him before sanctuary
>Lewes already having special names/outfits
I honestly think the end is nigh.
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>It's "Anons go apeshit with worry over "Intense friendship" and assumptions" time
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>>154819133
Hey. I'm just worried the anime is going to make the LN more shit, its worrying how profound the anime could affect LN
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>>154811727
>Get fucked so hard you get two horns, then have your sister get raped by Subaru so she gets two horns too.
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>>154784148
I miss Subaru going full edge. I hoped he'd go full anti-hero and learn to use his power like a competent person.
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>>154819076
>>Echidna contacting him before sanctuary
This is actually the change that baffled me the most. I honestly don't get what the point was. I don't get how it works either. Echidna's introduction was fine the first time around, and it didn't raise these kinds of odd questions.
>>154819309
Don't worry, he'll get other Chuuni powers in time.
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>It's "Bros get angry and worried about LN changes, I'm being happy = bros bully" episode
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>>154783557
Yes because that's the only time she's actually interesting. I really can't decide who is the worst hamfisted waifubait between her and Emilia.
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>>154819708
You're my stress toy for tonight.
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>>154819346
Wait they changed Echidna's intro? How? Why?
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>>154819842
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>>154816658

i want to lick her feet and im not even footfag
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>>154819880
She shows up in a dream sequence before Subaru ever reaches Sanctuary. As for the how and why? No clue.

She comments on his drive to keep pressing forward and keep his head up, no matter what burdens he has to carry or what obstacles stand in his way, and calls it the basis of his Greed. Then she tells him to come meet her in Sanctuary, if I remember correctly.

Then he forgets that vision.
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>>154820013
What the fuck is happening to the LNs? That is such a useless and uneeded scene.
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>>154820013
>Then he forgets that vision

Literally why have it in the first place then? And how did she contact him without the stone?
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>>154820013
Fuck they might even remove/change the Carmilla scene. If they do that the LN will be garbage forever.
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C'mon bros... stop worrying so much.
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>>154820235
Fuck no, just one Ferri/Crusch scene isn't enough to do anyone but you justice
Editor? /notmyguy/
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>>154820204
Im personally more worried about the Dona scenes. As they make a good chunk of the fourth arc. I hope they dont fuck up and have people assume that Dona actually like Subaru despite obviously faking her emotions to manipulate him.
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>>154820404
>Contract scene comes up
>Shorten it to one scentence
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>>154820608
That's not funny.
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>>154820155
Unneccesary foreshadowing, I'd say. As for how?

I don't know how.
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>>154798772
>>154799024
>>154799171
Thinking about it, this could this be the first time the story rewards Rem and Ram for being kind

I wonder how much suffering is still to be seen in their backstory
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Jesus, stop with the negativity, i feel like stopping reading for now cause everyone is being stupid and dragging down the mood.

Echidna's contract is fairly iconic even in the WN. No reason to change it.
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>the thought of the removal of the post-coma Rem scenes, which would remove scenes depicting Subaru's true suffering
Holy shit if they do that this series is officially in the shitter

I honestly believe that they are stupid enough to do this
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>>154818012
So? Otherwise, what would be the point of the love triangle then if it was so lopsided and obvious and it was way too easy to know who Subaru's true love interest really is? Subaru and Emilia has been lacking their own notable scenes to build up their romantic relationship so it makes sense why they would make more Subaru x Emilia scenes in the LN to compensate for their lackluster relationship development so far.
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>>154821612
The only loss was the part where he came into her a room to talk to her about stuff in arc 4, which was changed to him getting Ram to come along to help against Elsa, and addressing Rem to her early on instead of waiting until the end of arc 4.

There's plenty of time to add more stuff about him and Rem later. Stop getting your panties in a twist. Plus arc 4 and arc 5 gap, has a great amount of time to allow for short stories.
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>>154821598
>No reason to change it.
That's the point. A lot of things were changed for basically no reason, regardless of how iconic they may have been.
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>>154821612

We'd still have the WN at least. Nobody can shit that up besides Tappei himself.
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>>154821526
Well, I'm sure there's still quite a lot more suffering to be dug out of this. So far, we've got three out of four Witch Cultists making an appearance. The second guy was fairly tame, and not really much of an asshole. Crazy, but not sadistically so, despite his name literally being "Sado". He seems to have actually felt bad for Rem.

Third guy seems like the worst so far.


On an unrelated note, I've noticed the wiki doesn't seem to have articles for Annerose's parents.
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>>154821999
This one which element does he specialize in? Water?
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>>154822088
I don't know actually. All I know is that his body poisons mana. However, I think he used a fireball, so maybe I was wrong about the elemental ties. I'm still reading through.
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>>154822212
So he poisoned Rem when she used the horn?

It also seems a rather unusual ability, it might be a Blessing
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>>154821977
So judging from the way things've been going now, I guess the LN and all the adaptations based on it are meant to be Emilia's route while the WN is meant to be Rem's route? If so then it'd be somewhat unfair for Rem because the WN is less canon and has no extra stuff like illustration, etc unlike LN/manga/anime. Oh well.
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>>154822588
Yep, though I don't think it's a blessing. It's how they were able to slaughter the Oni. Even Roswaal's spell-casting is diminished.
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>>154822747
That's a really dumb conclusion. You can say that if Rem wakes up and nothing happens with her and Subaru but not in mid arc 4
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>>154822747

I'd argue that the WN is most canon because it's just the author involved and nobody else. I'd buy the "WN = rough draft, LN = final draft" if there wasn't other hands in the pot directing the story.
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>>154822747
We'll see how things go. There are definitely odd changes to scenes, but I doubt the plotline will just be dropped.
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>>154822819
Actually I made an intentionally impossible speculation as people with Witch Factor can't have Blessings

I have a crazy idea about this but I will wait to know what are the four guys' abilites
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>>154823128
Well, I only know three so far. All spoiler warnings apply.

Fog condenses miasma tainted mana in an area to trigger an explosion, similar to how mana storms occur if there's too great a concentration in the atmosphere. It's not necessarily actual fire magic.

Sado isn't a very hostile fellow, and more evasive. His main ability is riding the wind, which is like a more primitive form of Roswaal's flight magic.

Third guy poisons mana around him.
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>>154823291
Thank you, now I'll see how they fit and which is which.

I also noticed that Roswaal has intervened in this one
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>>154823128
Normal cultists don't have a witch factor. It could still be a blessing.
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>>154783557

I haven't read or watched Re:Zero but the idea and what I have seen of psycho oni Rem seem great but I know it must not happen much since she is always associated with being a submissive waifu.
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>>154824503
>submissive
Lolno
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>>154824503
3/10 bait, try again
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>>154824503
Just watch it.
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>>154824454
Witch Factor is not limited at Authorities and Bishops, for example Petelgeuse provided specificx Witch Factor to his Fingers to make sure he could possess them should his main body die.

Also these four dudes do not seem base cultists as for example Fog could use special miasma magic
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>>154824503
It depends on the situation. She's got multiple sides to her personality which come out when appropriate. She won't act psycho unless triggered.
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>>154824999
Haha no
Bete can possess fingers that have good affinity with spirits
Because his possession thing is a spirit thing, not a witch magic thing
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>>154825231
You know
This whole thing where Bete literally has to possess a body makes me think he really is an artificial spirit
It sounds like one of those drawbacks characteristic of artificial spirits
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>>154824454
Normal cultists still have a power which allows them to grow out of the ground. That's actually a definite thing, and I've got no idea how it works.

I think there's probably some kind of training Witch Cultists go through which involves infusing themselves with miasma, allowing them to perform unusual forms of magic. Why else would ever single Witch Cultist have the smell? Just holding a Gospel doesn't do it.
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Sometimes i think about Juice
What a poor man
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>>154825648
I want to see arc 3 remixed so that Juice is the main character, and it's a tragic tale of his diligence being undermined at every corner by a terrifying omniscient sue
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>>154825212

How often does this happen?
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>>154825358
We don't know much about the cause of the miasma but the witch factor is only for sin archbishops. Normal cultists might be gaining their smell and miasma from the gospel only.
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>>154825776
She goes really vicious when the Witch cultists are involved
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The most terrifying occult power
Dress rehearsals
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>>154783557
Yes, I prefer my meido a little unhinged.
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Just finished reading LN2, say what you want about translations, I thought it was really good and recommend reading it.

[Spoiler]My gf wrote me a romantic note in it while I slept at the end, I'm lucky to have my own Rem.[/spoiler]

Hope summary anon is doing well, I'm looking forwards to the next chapter!

Also, is LN3 translated and on sale yet?
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>>154826158
It's like you engineered the worst post in history
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>>154825231
From the wiki

>Possession: As a Spirit, Petelgeuse can possess others' bodies, with Subaru describing it as a forcible one way contract. Compatibility varies between people, which depends on whether the person has an affinity for Spirits, as he mentioned that Subaru's body was optimal while Ferris and Wilhelm's bodies were incompatible for various reasons. To make other people into his fingers, he adds Witch Genes to their body that allows him to possess them, as he can possess people with an affinity for Spirits but needs to make normal people into his fingers first. He used this over and over to live for 402 years until he was killed at the end of Arc 3.

He can possess people with spirit affinity but also specially prepared his followers so that the possession was guaranteed to work on them
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>>154825776
It depends on how serious the situation is. She tends to go berserk if the situation is serious, and clearly enjoys the brutality while she's doing it. If the situation is less serious, she's more cheerful and relaxed while she methodically beats the living shit out of people. She's also a bit jumpy, and almost killed Subaru because he launched confetti in her face.
>>154825803
If the Gospel gave anyone a smell, Roswaal would smell like shit. Since Witch Cultists have access to things like miasma gems, I think they've literally just huffed a shit ton of miasma to the point where it's clearly changed them.
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>>154826208

Well I'm drunk, so it is to be expected I suppose.
My apologies.
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I'm on episode 21, is this a single season anime or will there be more?
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>>154826573
There will never be S2.
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>>154826573
finish episode 25 and then start here
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_wOtTltdwZhHK0UKaV1AelPcA-K70SdWPcY3FTBJGnA/mobilebasic
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>>154791343
lol no. Subaru and Betty make a better then they ever did.

>>154792973
There is no need for an excuse. Those scenes aren't frequent to begin with compared to all the things going on. It's most Remfags exagrrating by cherrypicking any morsel information about her and blowing it up.

>>154795021
Emilia doesn't have bring anything. Nobody wants or cares about her being some stupid replacement who's barely relevant anymore. Established character with her growth, role and relationship with Subaru that was independent from Rem from the get go.

>>154795049
You mean the audience that currently drawing fanart of Emilia which happens to include Remfags? Stop speaking for people you don't know.
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>>154826573
The story continues, and recently the producer basically confirmed that the anime will continue to adapt the source material >>154810275
If you're interested in reading the novel translations have been linked.

>>154826643
Why do you lie in face of evidence?
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>>154826773
Oh look, ESL is back with some facts.
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>>154826392
Roswaal's gospel is different from them. The witch cult is shrouded in mystery, but normal cultists don't have a witch factor, if they did then Petelgeuse wouldn't have specific members as his fingers.
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>>154808734
>>154808804
Yeah, it's also like he's in love Emilia,*gasp*

It would also betray fuck all since Rem already knew about it and accept it.
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So what do y'all think of Subaru? Do you think it's alright for him to not be a strong and smart MC?
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>>154827000
He's eventually going to become strong, and he has the means towards it. He just has to go...a little insane
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>>154783557
Yes of course
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>>154827064
FUCK ME ELLIPSES
IGNORE THAT
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>>154826878
I'm not saying they have a Witch Factor. I'm saying they're all clearly hopped up on miasma-tainted mana, and are capable of using it.
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>>154813321
I don't think you understand. Subaru fucked her so hard she grew a second horn. The only logical next step is having him rape Ram until she also grows a new horn. It didn't exactly work, but Rem considers it a work in progress and is going to help next time.

>>154815273
Its a reference to Laputa. Ram is just sort of doing it incidentally and it doesn't particularly mean anything from her perspective.
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>>154815870
This is Remfag delusion land anon. Some of them here are so far gone their even shocked that Subaru would want to kiss Emilia. All those excuses they're just make their rude awakening even worse if the series in SubxEmi. Tappei has been shipping those two form the start of series both WN and LN. He even states in his afterword in vol 1 that's pone of basis for the story.
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>>154827000
I think it's good that he has to start from the lowest level given that he wasn't strong in the normal world and we already had our dose of Sue in other shows. About being smart he has a good intellect but only from arc 3 he got to leverage his biggest ability that is planning and strategy, and he's good at turning strong allies.

So he has the potential to become a really powerful Commander-type and is already in the process of becoming it
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>>154827000
He's decently intelligent as his witts are pretty the only way he's go through of this shit so far.
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>>154826878
>Roswaal's gospel is different from them
Isn't that gospel still generated by the power of an Authority?
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>>154827630
Kind of? We know Roswaal's was made by Echidna, we really have no idea who makes the ones the Witch Cult has. Echdina is pretty dead and stuck so she probably isn't doing it, I don't know if Pandora could. And its not so much an Authority generating them as some magic bullshit trying to copy the Authority.
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>>154827392
Yeah sure. Then why does he not deny that when Rem is going to wake up he's going to spend more time with her than Emilia?
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>>154827392
Yeah, and Emiliafags think From Zero is about her.
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>>154827780
That doesn't mean he doesn't love Emilia. It's natural to spend more time with someone you haven't seen for a long time.
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Please do not respond to the Emiliafag, his non-logic is perverted and he cannot see reason
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>>154827995
He also hasn't actually read any of Re: Zero, so he's just talking out of his ass anyway.
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>>154827894
>Emiliafags think From Zero is about her.
You meant "only ESL"? I'm Emiliafag but honestly I could never bring myself to claim something like that. I must say, whoever says it or believes it is really beyond retarded.
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HERE WE GO
YET AGAIN
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>>154783557
I appreciate that she and her sister subvert the narrative cliché of twins being identical in everything and doing stuff only together
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>>154828620
Guess who's back
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>>154828704
No fuck off
I'm equally sick of remfags for constantly, constantly, constantly doing this >>154827995
>>154827894
>>154828192
Shit.
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>>154828621
Well, they do still have a lot of similarities and do a lot of stuff together. It's just not their only thing. If you ask me, it's clearly intentional that Rem and Ram were written to avoid such things. Like why Rem is written to have the most hobbies and interests of any character besides Subaru.
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>>154828786
>>154828704
>>154828620

Just don't respond

Don't even mention it
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So that disaster that happened when the twins were kids, who was attacking them? Why were they attacked? That part in the backstory seemed too fast
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>>154828848
They're extremely close as they're the only family they have, but narratively twins are usually treated like a single character in two bodies. This story initially flirts with the idea but it's evident it's only a surface impression with Rem forcing herself to be identical to Ram as an issue to solve and them actually having different personalities and capabilities and even looks in ways that are both sublte (eye shape) and evident (color scheme and tits)

I find it refreshing to have a nontrivial portrayal
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>>154820013
Wait wait what the fuck are you talking about?

The scene at the beginning of the Volume isn't a 'vision', it's literally Subaru's first meeting with Echidna shown in media res (the end of WN chapter 9). They've done this in every LN arc (arc1 was subaru's first death, arc2 was part of Rem/Ram's backstory, arc3 was the fight with Julius). And there was nothing about Echidna telling him to come meet her.

Seriously just relax. I don't know what you've seem to read or where, but I don't think you understood like half of it.
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Did anyone else think it was hot when Subaru was crying as he was getting butched by Rem?
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>>154829262
Typesetter and Remon are translating a novel that expands Rem and Ram's backstory.

The main story makes clear that the village was attacked by the Witch Cult. The reason is still unknown.
The relevant part of that event is that the Witch Cult was responsible, explaining Rem going psycho on them, and that Ram horn was broken in the incident, leading Rem to a deep guilt that lasted until the present time, and the fact that Ram is a cripple dependant on Roswall for magical sustenance
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>>154808734
I just realized that Rem would never be Subaru's first kiss because Subaru already gave it to Emilia. I imagine it would hurt Rem very badly.
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>>154829397
I don't think that the Typesetter knows Japanese.
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>>154829262
Who? The Witch Cult?
Why? Not certain, but it might be because the Oni race is probably the strongest in the Re:Zeroverse
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>>154829467
Isn't he the one dispensing spoilers while forawrding the digitalization to Remon?

Also I think a typesetter must have a minimum knowledge in order to recognize the kanjis
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>>154829438
There's always his first time.
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>>154829566
If Subaru and Rem have the balls to do it, yes. Otherwise, nope.
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>>154829516
>Also I think a typesetter must have a minimum knowledge in order to recognize the kanjis
I've got very minimal knowledge. I can figure out the gist of most sentences if I reference a dictionary, so I know what's happening in the story.
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>>154827780
Seriously?! So the second half of the series will be mostly with Rem?! I'm... so happy!
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>>154829423
The fuck...get rid of that silver hair, long hair and purple eyes. Fucking disgusting
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>>154827934
He's actually still been seeing her.
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>>154830121
Don't get your hopes up, as Tappei will pull another twist with Rem. He likes making Toyota suffer, so why not deny him of his beloved blueberry even further?
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>>154830121
>So the second half of the series will be mostly with Rem?!
Um... no? Future arcs would most likely focus on other characters like Al, Priscilla, Felt, Reinhard, Emilia... so its just a matter of time before Rem finally gets sidelined.
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>>154830383
>focus on other characters like Al, Priscilla, Felt, Reinhard, Emilia
No, just feature them. Like arc 6 features Julius and Anastasia
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>>154829438

Don't worry, I'm sure the clown already stole Rem's first kiss at some point.
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>>154830383
>implying it won't be about Subaru and Rem facing them
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>>154830383
Anon, there's always focus on the Emilia camp in one way or another. It won't be 100% focused on just one aspect.
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DELET
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>>154827894
Nobody ever said that but retards like you. She was part of it, but not the whole. But keep displaying you insecurity of anything even slightly encroaches on influence on Subaru that isn't Rem, it just you know Subaru will never all about her. No matter how extreme you want to take this is a fact.
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>>154827995
>>154828192

Meanwhile Tappei has been retweeting fanarts of SubxEmi and nothing of SubxRem. Stay delusional Remfags.
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>>154831610
Tappei is like Subaru. He says Emilia but he does Rem.
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>>154831610
Why are you always trying to start fights?
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>>154829438
Emilia tainted Subaru already
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>>154831953
She did nothing but cry
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Rembros are so mean to Emiliabros.
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>>154832085
cat is gay
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Rembros are so mean to me.
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>>154832212
CAT IS GAY
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>>154831953
How would Rem react if Subaru jokes about the baby thing in front of her.
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>>154832233
>Let's show Emilia how it's done right.
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One of the Rembros persecutes me.
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>>154832278
you're the one glutton for punishment, asking for abuse everytime you post in this silly manner
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>>154832251
>B-B-But I still don't see any baby even after you guys wrestle!?
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Shouldn't Emilia be mature in a physical and hormonal sense and thus be able to feel arousal by conventional means?
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>>154833097
Elves are different thus half elves are all sorts of fucked up
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>>154829438
Subaru wanted to give it to Rem but had to give it to Emilia. Blame the cat.
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>>154834174
shitty cat always ruining everything
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>bullying Ferri

Low.
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>>154834391
Hope Ferri is one of the vicitms of Subaru's eventual madrampage
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Crusch will die and Ferris will animate her corpse because he's sick
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Goodnight bros, it went to bullying again.
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>>154834544
Ferri is a disgusting character. He'd honestly zombify Crusch because he lost her.
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These two will make it together! I know it! I know they love each other!
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>>154817200
Speaking of which, I still find it hilarious and amazing that Subaru and Rem could outfuck the whole oni clan. Perhaps Rem was actually supposed to be the clan's savior but unfortunately the villagers failed to see it.
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>>154826729
>not the pastebin

Shame. That hasnt been updates for some time.
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>>154836094
If you're referring to the pastebin, i have updated it with new short stories and so on.
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>>154829667
Considering that those two are barely holing each other back from fucking each other in their sleep I would say there is a good chance.
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>>154829397
Fuck I keep messing up what I write in every occasional post I make

I have typesetter anon transcribe stuff so that it's easier to translate, but I do all the translation. He knows japanese to some extent
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>>154832212
I gave you scans for your cat story, and this is how you repay me?
>>154836269
To an extent. I actually need to get back to studying it properly some time. Right now, I practically need a motorized wheelchair to read it at any proper pace.
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>>154836125
Nah, I'm just displaying my diastase for someone who is using the google one rather than the pastebin.
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>>154830510
Subaru and Rem confronting Al or even Emilia, I can see it happen. But what about the others? Does Rem even have anything to do with them?
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>>154838381
Al is ties with the Priscilla faction so yes. The only questionable one would be Reinhardt and Felt.
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>>154838531
Rem met Reinhardt back when he was a kid, and thought he was absolutely terrifying, but there's no reason why there would be any feud between them.

Anyhow, I've been thinking that if Rem had a good healing tutor, she'd probably be the best healer on the Emilia faction. She's the only one of the bunch who has an actual affinity for that kind of magic.
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>>154837673
J A I L
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>>154835579
>Her special power is being a baby factory
This is actually hilariously OP for an Oni
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>>154783557
If Rem never got into a coma, where would the story be right now?

Would she have kissed Subaru and won the bowl?
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>>154831519
I know I shouldn't, but the irony is too good.

>No one but retards say From Zero was about Emilia
>But From Zero was about Emilia I swear guys
So does that make you a retard?
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>>154839787
Arc 4 probably goes down smoother and there's no need for arc 6. Arc 5 still probably happens, so maybe they go to the tower anyway just to fix up all the other bullshit the cultists caused.

Without being as backed into a corner as he was I don't know if Subaru's relationships with Otto and Emilia would've been as good.
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>>154839787
She would have kissed Subaru but not won the bowl just yet because Subaru's mind would still be riddled with EMT, blah, blah, blah.
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>>154839916
Subaru sure as hell wouldn't be a virgin that's for sure.
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>>154839135
Hopefully, Subaru would ask Beatrice and Roswaal to teach Rem new healing and attack spells after she wakes up, so they would get her stronger and improve the camp's fighting capability.
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>>154840414
I'm curious how Rem will react to nearly dying. By all rights she should have, and she expected to. She might blame herself for not being strong enough and try and push harder on her own.
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>>154840414
Lets not let Rem be near Roswaal. Plus the best option for teaching spellcraft is Subaru himself, as despite taking a year off he still managed to create new Yin spells with Beako.
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>>154840515
more like
because he had a year to come up with them
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>>154840545
Well that's what I meant him taking a year off.
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>>154840515
She's already been taught combat magic by Roswaal. The problem is that Roswaal doesn't know healing, so she's had to learn from books.
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>>154840608
The way you phrased that is outright stating that the year-long 'break' somehow impeded the construction of new spells, when it's the opposite. Having a year of time to do shit facilitated this. They haven't even finished constructing the third spell.

Subaru can come up with ideas for what would be cool or funky magic but that doesn't make him a fucking genius or even competent in sorcery. He's leaning hard on Beatrice for doing any magical crap.
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>>154840717
Yeah but letting near Roswaal near Rem after knowing everything he's done to her is not a good idea.
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>>154840515
But can Subaru craft any spell other than the Yin ones? Rem is only compatible with Water attribute so she can only learn Water-related spells I guess.

Oh and I wonder what her reactions would be after she learns that Subaru names two of his spells after Emilia but none after her.
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>>154840740
Moreover Subaru uses spirit magic anyway so the whole discussion is stupid from the outset.
The most """""""""""""""teaching"""""""""""""""" he's going to do for anybody is saying "Hey what if you used your water magics to make people piss themselves in battle" or some shit.
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>>154840740
Obviously but he still created new spells regardless. Beako and Roswaal as of yet shown to do, while crafting and learning of new spells is indeed daunting and Subaru worked his ass off to get there Subaru has an outsider's perspective on how to control mana. Even if he has no expertise in healing skills Subaru can still find new ways of constructing and refining spells like he did with Emilia's ice magic.
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>>154840864
Its distasteful but I wonder of his inner chunni will let him remember that she can use blood as a weapon
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>>154840871
He doesn't control the mana
Beatrice does
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>>154840787
I'm sure she'll understand that using her name for those things isn't very Subaru, considering that even mentioning her sends Subaru into a downwards spiral of emotions.
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>>154840928
I know Beatrice controls the mana anon, but it was Subaru's ideas that shaped how the mana was used.
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>>154840967
Yes so his caliber of what you call 'teaching' is "Hey what if you <inane idea here>"
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>>154840772
I don't think it would be that bad if Subaru closely observes Rem and Roswaal as the clown teaches Rem. Besides, Rem and Subaru would become much more cautious next time they see the clown so they would less likely be caught off-guard by him.
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"Subaru is a better option than Roswaal for learning sorcery" is (clown-related contentions aside) one of the most fucking obtuse, braindead arguments I have ever seen.
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>>154841345
He's better for Chuuni suggestions.The thing is, Roswaal's already taught Rem sorcery. She's already quite good at offensive magic.

The thing here is that her talents should theoretically be more those of a healer. Unfortunately, she's never received formal training as a healer. So instead of doing what she should be doing, she's throwing snowballs around.
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>>154841546
Instead of doing anything she's taking a nap
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Can't wait till second season. Where they'll fucking basically kill the best girl and leave her on the side lines!
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>>154842431
>Wanting a second season after the disaster that was the first season
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>>154842471
You really think the anime was so bad that it warrants being called a disaster?
I think they did pretty good considering the overwhelming load of content they had to work with, and limited time to fit it in.
Probably the most disastrous thing is the ABOUNDING QUALITY from ep 19 on.
That said I'd rather that Tappei spend a year of writing than a year of assisting on anime.
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>>154842720
If they failed to convey its message and rip apart characters leaving people confused it is warranted to say the the first season was a disaster. As they failed to message the horrors of re-spawn, Subaru's motivations and backstory as well as it overall plot. The first season left not a mark or anything special. Despite the other source materials doing so. They also focus too much on the fighting and rushing though the plot rather than delving into it. As well as character depth and development, as they couldn't even ass themselves to include what characters and most notable Subaru is known for, which are inner thoughts and monologues. But instead opted to just go almost pure dialogue yet somehow failing even to get that right as well.
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>>154842431
If I recall correctly, doesn't Rem usually if not always do all the homework (and household chores) for Subaru and thus spoil him by not letting him do shit? Is Rem a bad influence on Subaru after all?
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>>154843649
Nah.

>Her training methods for Subaru were actually surprisingly difficult.
>She would take Ram’s place in looking over Subaru’s studies and would sometimes use a kind method of teaching. However, there was no mercy when it came to the subjects and his answers. There were times when he’d complain about the circumstances being hard towards himself, but at the same time, it was a part of the training that he liked.
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>>154843334
Time isn't an infinite thing they have.
They simply do not have time to do monologues, and 'delving', and jumping forward to arc 4 for Subaru's backstory, etc etc, and arc 3 suffered for it tremendously (you're really not missing anything re: arcs 1 and 2 by going anime -> WN). They squeezed three more episodes into the season than what is conventional and still just didn't have time.
I don't understand how you can characterize the corner-cutting in A3 as them 'not being assed' when they were stuck with condensing 1.5~2 cours of back to back to back to back content into 1 cour.
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>>154843649
It seems like she flips. When she's actually in charge of the lessons, she's apparently quite strict. She does avoid giving him important work in many side stories, but that's largely because she thinks he'll botch it and make things harder in the end.

It's also noticeable that her behavior changes significantly over the course of the side stories. There are mentions of her doing his homework for him in Day Off, but it's unclear how consistent that may have been. It's like how she never goes full Mayonnaise Chapter again after the mayo bath.
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>>154843826
They could have just adapted the first two arcs rather than trying to squeeze in all 3. As the first to were plenty exciting alone if executed properly.
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>>154826158
>My gf
Why? 2D is objectively superior.
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>>154826158
>I'm lucky to have my own Rem

Well better be careful anon, she might end up in a coma
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>>154843874
absolutely nobody would care about this series if only the first two arcs were adapted, let's be real
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>>154843874
If we're talking an adaptation of arcs 1 and 2 as a single cour, after which there's a however-many-years long break until arc 3, then I highly doubt it would work.
Rem is cool and all, but she only has the impact she does because of arc 3. Capping the series off for years with smiley Rem is just like,
'uhhh okay?
so he made up with the maids
he survived the mansion
that's cool i guess
what was the point of all this?'
because 2 is a transition arc to establish characters for arc 3, where Plot Shit Finally Starts Happening.
It's a bad place to leave off.
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>>154843826
Not him but there are tweaks that could have made the quality much better. For example showcasing his plan-making and the full extent of the Crusch negotiation and giving the candidates full speeches rather than drawing out the Bete and Whale battle. Also take special consideration on not trying to make Subaru look like an autist which they somehow managed in the anime.

Reading the WN/LN/Manga version of Subaru being much more bearable than what we got in the anime, which was a whiny bitch who cries all the time. Despite knowing he has put a lot of thought and effort into every action so far with the anime not showing it. Like fuck, the anime never even showed how opportunistic Subaru is like despite us getting hit in the head about it over and over such as the manga.
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>>154844077
Well nobody cares after the first season except for the people who got spoiled on the ending of arc 3 so we're at a crossroads really.
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Picked up an interesting spoiler detail before I go to sleep.
It seems like there are two elite cultists active in this chapter. I don't have too many details to report on the second set, other than that he doesn't seem to need to rely on any henchmen.
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>>154844139
>showcasing his plan-making
with what time (and they do do this in arc 2 at least)
>the full extent of the Crusch negotiation
with what time
>giving the candidates full speeches
with what time
>drawing out the Bete
highly condensed
>and Whale battle
somewhat condensed and still managed to eat up a whole episode unintentionally

>which was a whiny bitch who cries all the time
Subaru arc 1-3 is a whiny bitch who cries all the time
>he has put a lot of thought and effort into every action
I swear to god the anime does pretty frequent voiceovers to explain his rationale for his bigger actions. Like the arc 2 'disgusting disgusting disgusting' manga page which people love posting when talking about cut monologues, which is amazing, because it's one of the monologues which is literally right there in the fucking anime.
I do like the dialogue on that manga page and am sad it's not in the anime, though it kind of backfires as an example of opportunism when you consider that this 'opportunism' ends in 'make me your chore boy!' Because taking things Subaru says at face value Is Foolish.
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As an aside the Crusch negotiation could be an episode in itself.
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>>154844578
>Subaru arc 1-3 is a whiny bitch who cries all the time

Except he wasn't. If you just read the manga alone its reasonable that Subaru breaks down on those stages. But instead the message everyone got when watching the anime is "oh he's insane".
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>>154845021
Watching it I thought it was clear and reasonable why he broke down.
Maybe it's just me.
And he's totally a whiny bitch.
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>>154844578
>with what time
The time you took out from the whale and Bete battle

>highly condensed
>somewhat condensed and still managed to eat up a whole episode unintentionally

Condense it more then.

>which was a whiny bitch who cries all the time

Not entirely, sure he breaks down and gets beaten but he doesn't look like someone that's being a passive little baby. Subaru may whine but its AFTER he reaches dead end in both his plans and his effort to change them. Such as sacrificing a loop to meet who killed him in arc 2 which the anime showed him just sitting around in the room rather than someone who is ready to face death to see his killer's face and defend the mansion.

>I swear to god the anime does pretty frequent voiceovers to explain his rationale for his bigger actions.

It really doesn't. Consider the time Subaru went catatonic and the times during arc 3 with him constantly heading towards the mansion. Did they display his though on his plans? Did they explain his reasoning why he just sat still on his bed staring at the ceiling? Even on episode 13 for example people though it was just simly Subaru getting jealous over Emilia despite those who read knowing that it was because his world and perception was crashing down on him because he finally saw that he was no longer a special snowflake as well as possible Witch fuckery.
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>>154838381
The are still going to be Subaru's rivals because of the elections, and Rem will assist him in this political game
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>>154845206
>Condense it more then.
I have an idea.
Let's just remove the fights.
God I'm genius.

>rather than someone who is ready to face death to see his killer's face and defend the mansion.
You think he is?
The WN after he gets taken as a guest that loop has him:
- sit around in the room, thinking about plans, and moping about how hard they are and how they presuppose a reset (shown in anime)
- Ram intrudes and mocks him for his terrible handwriting (and other assorted things)
- transition scene where he leaves the mansion, no particular state of BADASS DETERMINATION mentioned (shown in anime)
- he goes to mountain
- knife reveal
「敵が俺の叫びでビビって逃げてくれる慎重派だと助かるな」 lol subaru you whiny bitch
- starts monologuing
「なんの手段も用意できないよりマシだろ……そもそも、次に対抗手段を用意するための今回だから、な」
自分に言い聞かせるように呟き、スバルは頭を振って弱気を追い払う。
>自分に言い聞かせるように
>スバルは頭を振って弱気を追い払う。
He is scared as shit
一度は彼女たちを捨石にしなくてはならないと、失うことを前提に策を考えたスバルが、絶対に受けなければならない類の断罪だ。

痛ましいと、そう思いながら接した。
愛おしいと、そう思いながら接した。

生じた傷口に指を差し入れ、さらに肉を裂き骨を割るような苦痛に耐えながら、この三日間をスバルは過ごした。

全てを忘れないために、だ。
more moping
- drowses off
- berates himself for drowsing
- BAM morningstar
My feeling is that your impression of Subaru is way more badass than he actually is (in arc 2 at least).

>the times during arc 3
ah yes
arc 3
the one
where they
had
no
TIME
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>>154840787
what if the one with Rem's name will be his most powerful spell?
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>>154845755
Yes but there is a difference with that and the anime. As while he mopes around its still him preparing himself. Hence why I called Subaru in the anime a passive baby.
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>>154845899
How is he being a passive baby when he being overwhelmingly proactive
I don't understand

They even throw in a little snippet of the motivational moping
Christ
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>>154846029
He might actually be whinier in the WN than the anime




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