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How would /a/ fix the isekai genre(s)?
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>>165546367
it's impossible
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/a/ just makes evething worse
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>>165546367
Prohibiting RPG mechanics, reincarnation, cheats or anything that might give the MC an unfair advantage. Also edginess.
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>>165546367
By killing it.
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>>165546367
It's not a genre.
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>>165546367
There's too much shit just sweep away at once. Getting rid of game-based physics as an excuse to not build a world via exploration and discovery would be a good place to start.
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>>165546367
By making more reverse Isekai like Captain Hans
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At least make the rpg mechanic isekai resemble an rpg that people would actually play and not something that the mangaka is pulling out of his ass.
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>>165546367
By removing the I in iseakai
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Your pic it's OK since it doesn't want to become a "revolution" of the genre, the way to fix isekai is stop using fantasy and vídeo games assets and take a new perspective like reborn in the past or another planet (sci-fi esque), and in the deconstructio of the genre I will like to say a god that chose the one's how will reborn, a how he select them, the why and into the world they will appear, truck-kun chronicles too.
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>>165546367
Remove the RPG aspects.

There. Now the author actually can't bullshit their way on how to live on in the other world.
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>>165546367
SAO s3
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>>165546367
If you want harem go harem all the way
Don't give MC bullshit reason not to give the girls the D
If there's a girl that meet MC criteria, don't make it too long for MC to make a move on the girl
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>>165546367
Remove MC harems, leveling systems, have a protagonist archetype that does not begin with them being a complete and utter loner loser in their home world, and some damn variety in the worlds they're sucked into, it's always generic european fantasy, can't anyone come up with an original setting?
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>>165546367
If you die in the game you die in real life, however people inside the game don't know this. They also have no sense of time so don't realize how long they've been in there. The PKers are literally killing people without realizing. Friends accidently kill eachother after dueling, have the characters eventually realize what's going on and then they try to live their lives inside the game for awhile until it abruptly shuts down and everyone is awake in some kind of hospital facility.

After trying to get rehabilitated they either turn to violence after realizing how many people they killed or they want to forget and get back into the game.
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>>165546367
>How would /a/ fix the isekai genre(s)?
Just write a better webnovel that shows people the light.
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>>165547414
But how to write beter webnovel?
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>>165546367
Stop with overpowered MCs and video game settings
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>>165546367
Where's my second season?
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>>165546367
Easy. Get real writers to write it. Isekai is shit because the majority of Japanese writers are right-wing-aligned. Which should be mutually exlusive with being a writer in first place.
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>>165546871
>There. Now the author actually can't bullshit their way on how to live on in the other world
The MC can still be an uber special chosen one bestowed with a million blessings by the gods Mary Sue even without literal RPG mechanics.
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>>165547296
So literally SAO but it somehow makes even less sense.
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Eveytime I see something for this show I think it's a Sakura Taisen thread.
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>>165546871
This might help.
The only good one, familiar of zero, didn't have anything vidya related
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>>165546367
Make MCs more powerful
Increase harems (also more female slaves)
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>>165548658
This guy writes isekai.
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>>165548658
I'm planning on writing an isekai story about an MC who is so manly his mere presence feminizes all other men and makes them and the females his willing sex slaves. Unfortunately, he is hard gay and into bears.
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There's nothing wrong with the Isekai genre it's just oversaturated right now.
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>>165549230
I hope characters in your story are mostly men if not it's shit
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Post isekai that you liked, I will start with Drifters.
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>>165549351
Falling in love with the villainess is a very good read.
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>>165546367
Outside there's a box car waiting
Outside the family stew
Out by the fire breathing
Outside we wait 'til face turns blue

There is a wait so long
So long so lon
You'll never wait sooo loooong
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>>165546861
>take a new perspective like reborn in the past
Oda Nobuna no Yabou. Everything good about it comes from the studio, source is the usual shit.
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>>165549343
>I hope characters in your story are mostly men if not it's shit
Nah, as few men as possible, just to piss off shittasters like you
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>>165549351
Overlord is my favorite anime

Re:zero is definitely top 5

I kind of count DanMachi as one also because of the way it bullshits in RPG mechanics

Sukasuka counts also because of the fact that the protagonist was frozen in stone for 500 years, but the ending to that story was such a pile of shit, every character you care about dies pointlessly and nothing is accomplished. I still rate it high because of how much I liked the first four episodes.

Trinity Seven also kind of counts, that show started strong and then just sunk into a pile of mediocrity though. I had to force myself to sit through the last few episodes bored out of my mind.
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>>165549477
Oh I see, what a shame
I was thinking since he's a hard gay he want manly men and because he's so manly that he feminize men he struggle to making men more manly
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165549507
You are going to need a bigger bait.
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>>165549807
What the fuck am I reading?
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>>165546367

>No RPG mechanics
>MC is competant but can fuck up and fail
>Actually use the isekai part of the story in some way

I fixed it.
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By making it more grim and sad!

18th century war iseaki type should do the trick!
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>>165549813
There's no bigger bait then the honesty of someone who just got into anime a month ago and their favorite genre is harem
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>>165546367
Let's see, this>>165548591
Also make more stories like that chink novel Son Con and I don't mean just that particular fetish just increase the level of icha icha and flirting don't be satisfied with just fade to black.

Have the MC and heroes get older, grow up have their children grow up and show the story from their POV kinda like Mushoku Tensei's author did with Jobless Oblige and just increase the warm family moments in general.

Remove highschool class transportation- class tenni altogether.

Utilise the isekai setting for more war harem type of stories like Ochitekita majo no kuni. The medieval fantasy isekai setting is perfect for the so called senki. You don't always have to have the MC be some kind of genius you can make it like that guy from Kuro no Senki where he gets picked up by some noble who didn't have a son and even teaches him language.

Make the fantasy races more interesting and I mean you can keep them as standard archetypes for the most part but add something unique to them like say in Elvenblood(notisekai) where the elves can plant seeds inside human corpses and utilise their life force to grow woods at a tremendous speed which changes the environment to be more fantasy, faylike and humans not being able to survive in there turning into mindless trolls and other fantasy creatures due to consuming special substance secreted from these woods and hence them having a hard time stoping an elven invasion.

There's a lot more I have in mind like utilizing the future setting with sci-fi alien harems etc. But I'm sure narou will get to those too one day.
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>>165546367
No videogame shit.
No menus, no retarded skill systems, no HURR I MADE TECHNOLOGY N GUNZ

Just old school dude goes to a fantasy land and goes on an adventure
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>>165546871
There is like 90% of Isekai without RPG elements where MC still gets broken abilities and it gets boring after first chapter.

Removing RPG is a step in the right direction but what we really need is removal of all overused tropes for self-insertion.

So my list would be (in following priority order):
>Remove RPG
>Remove MC cheat abilities. He/she still may be smarter than others but it shouldn't make him stronger. Like burning all of the oxygen in closed space so enemy can't use fire spells and punch him before you suffocate would be the good kind of intelligence, inventing a nuke spell because you know how fusion works (but only basics) is wrong kind
>Remove Harem (he may fuck more than one girl but this shouldn't be written as a usual harem, Rance fucks every girl he meets but he still has no harem)
>Remove Trucks. Isekai could be good even with a truck (since the start is irrelevant) but it still shows how little fantasy the author has. A creative introduction would be much more interesting
>If battle isekai: Add some thrill, MC should be able to lose, make opponents even stronger than MC

Basically applying those things to every isekai would already make them better for sure
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>>165548591
>didn't have anything vidya related
>elemental attributes
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>>165546367
Make MC un-selfi-nsertable by giving him a character and actually fucks the girls
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>>165546367

It's more simple than you think really. All you have to do is tell a story where shit actually happens. The problem with Isekai isn't the fact that it's a story about someone in our world getting sent to different worlds, that shit is older than dirt. No, the problem is quite simply these writers are more interested in creating something they can milk for as long as possible so while plot elements might get introduced early on the heroes will never really make any active steps towards them because they're bumming around getting into cliche anime hijinks in order to sell Light Novels. There's no story, no growth, nothing happens. And that's bad no matter what genre you are.

Also for fuck's sake Japan, stop defaulting to thinking fantasy automatically means RPGs and Dragon Quest. Read a real goddamn book already. Crying out loud.
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>>165550533
>>Remove Harem

Add love triangle. Not to digress but a love triangle can be really engaging as a plot hook. But that's different from a harem as in a triangle the relationships actually matter and it's not just about a gaggle of girls who fawn over the MC for no reason than because.
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>>165546666
Or Hataraku Maou
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>>165551191
Mygirl > Yourgirl
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>>165546367
Make all of them as fun as the one you posted.
It's a shame that neo-neo-neo-neeoe-eonee-eneeo-/a/ will shit on it just for the ridiculous premise and it being an isekai show. God damn was it great.
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>>165548658
This is the only correct answer tbqh.
>>165547102
This too.
>>165549477
Now you're talking.
>>165550327
>Utilise the isekai setting for more war harem type of stories like Ochitekita majo no kuni
Hey I like that, like Madan right?
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>>165551087
I don't remember Rayearth anymore. But I always get the feeling that I liked it a lot when I watched it a long time ago every time I remember.
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>>165551327
Smartphone was fine in my opinion because it knows what it is and does not try to mask its bullshit.

Now Death March on the other hand is fucking moronic.
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>>165550533
Here's a little insight into why this is an issue: you are not in the target audience. What you are — or at least, what you are supposed to be — is an ally to the Japanese otaku. Your post, however, proves that you, while you may consider yourself an otaku and an ally, are not very good at it. It is not enough to simply call yourself an otaku. It's not even enough to create an idea for an isekai plot, no matter how many people may like it decades later, though it is certainly a good start. You have to bring the Japanese to the table. You have to let them speak. You cannot speak for them. But speaking for them is exactly what you are doing through your posts. You are using your position of power to silence them. Despite the fact that you have no experience living on this planet as a Japanese in the 21st century, you are claiming to know better, and because you speak from a position of privilege, people are more likely to listen to you.
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>>165546367
Remove RPG mechanics.
Remove Hikkis.
Limit Harem sizes to a max of 3 girls including one-episode/chapter girls.
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>>165551087
The show from you pic has characters literally comparing their adventure to an RPG, by the way.
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>>165546367
I'd isekai a fantasy character into the real world, where she would rise from hapless victim to challenge and defeat the evils of Earth through her modest skills, like magic, flight and assassination. She'd be super-popular, everyone would love her, and she'd achieve victory through the power of friendship ie being voted for and cruise missiles.
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Any /lit/ crossboarders here? Can you describe what Korean isekai is like?
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>>165551681
Oh, shit.
A dark elf girl (male) saving the US from Trump would sell like hot cakes.
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>>165551776
>(male)
I like how it's Trump on one side and faggotry on the other. Murka in a nutshell.
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>>165551776
I'd rather she saved the US from all the things that got Trump voted in as a serious candidate in the first place.
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>>165546367
It doesn't need fixing.
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>>165546367
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>MC has a loving wife and daughter
>MC got isekai'd
>MC met a girl in the isekai world
>Time passed the girl is eventually in love with MC
>MC missed his wife and daughter back in is old world but thought he may never see them again, marries the girl and have a son together
>time passed, a natural disaster happened which transport MC and his new family back to his original world.
>Turns out time flowed differently in the Isekai world and MC was missing for a month while he lived in the Isekai world for 5 years
>MC is finally reunited with his wife and daughter but soon realized MC started a new family while he's missing and tension rised on all party
>In the end they all live together with wives compete to be top wife while the kids got along just fine
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>>165549351
Mushoku Tensei was great. LN, especially, had a lot of good worldbuilding and little in the way of RPG mechanics. MC was strong but it was made obvious that there were bigger fish in the sea. Tried Konosuba Volume 1; finally understood what /a/'s always talking about when isekai RPG mechanics are mentioned. Felt less like an organic world and more like everyone was playing an MMO.
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Isekai Chad de gozaru.
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165553770
Baitplosion!
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>>165546367
Remove the isekai part and make it either pure fantasy or just a video game. The isekai part becomes irrelevant after a few chapters anyways outside of some mental quip of the mc.
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Toss a 20something NK defector into Japan and have him catch up with modern times.
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Make the protag female, it's that simple.
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>>165554069
Yo know what's the opposite of simple? Getting sales.
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>>165549351
Drifters, Smartphone, Oda.
Still waiting for that S2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lXL3ahKRdc
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>>165546367
Force authors to make non-genderbent female MCs. All the harems and RPG mechanics are just symptoms of the main issue: most isekais are self-insert power fantasies. Make them female and they won't be able to self-insert anymore.
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>>165554648
>Force authors to make non-genderbent female MCs. All the harems and RPG mechanics are just symptoms of the main issue: most isekais are self-insert power fantasies. Make them female and they won't be able to self-insert anymore.
Because female self-inserts don't exist.
I guess those thousands of shitty copy-paste otome reincarnation isekai don't exist either.
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>>165549351
Faraway Paladin because it has no game mechanics and has good characters with a good story. One thing that tends to drag Isekais into the dirt is harems, and Faraway Paladin doesn't even have a romantic interest for the main character four books in. All of the women around him are either old or already taken, which makes for a far more interesting read than spending 100 pages writing about how every woman on the continent wants to fuck the MC but he never actually has sex.
>>165549391
Is also very good.
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>>165546367
>>165552045
>>165553208
What is Reimu doing in a Isekai?
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>>165549430
Why not name the good example that's Nobunaga Concerto? Though MC doesn't die.
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>>165546367
Isekai is already fixed. That's why all the MCs act as if they're castrated.
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Is Yumekui Merry isekai?
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Drop MC cheat abilities.
Or give them to everyone.
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>>165555971
>Reimu
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>>165546367
Better protagonists.
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>>165546367
I Know What You Did in Another World

Reverse Isekai where someone from another world follows Isekai "hero" back to the real world. Bad shit happens. Think Maou-Sama if he kept being an evil fucker instead of McLoving It.
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>>165546367
Make more isekai like Smartphone and less like Re;zero
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>>165555224
Female self-inserts are for female authors. Most isekai authors are male. So no otaku is going to give his main female character a reverse harem.
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>you have to buy isekai GOLD membership to get an isekai where the MC fucks his waifus
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>>165549351
The Devil is a Part-Timer.

Mostly non-serious Comedy Reverse Isekai > Edgy Isekai.
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>>165556847
Nightmares come from dream world. So Reverse Isekai?
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>>165546367
sci-fi approach, so the reincarnator is the filthy peasant
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>>165547659
>Isekai is shit because the majority of Japanese writers are right-wing-aligned
you just what?
saurce of this claiming
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>>165549351
average abilities
ascendance of a bookworm
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>>165547659
>majority of Japanese writers are right-wing-aligned.
kek
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>>165546367
Simple:
>No RPG mechanics unless they are a) added because the MC is in a videogame or b) are used as a form of parody

>No reincarnation bullshit unless the MC is completely different in personality than he was in his previous life and all his memories are randomly appearing

>No cheat abilities or some OP bullshit like that (unless played for laughs and isn't taking itself seriously like Ore to Kawazu-san no Isekai Hourouki )

>MC's must be shown to struggle and endure hardships (see Meikyuu Black Company), should have common sense and learn quickly or they die (Wortenia Senki), or have the local person be the MC and deal with people with bizarro abilities instead (Chihoukishi Hans no Junan), or reverse it like Maou-Sama did with the titular Demon King going to our world to work at not!McDonalds (also they must screw up from time to time like in Mushoku Tensei with both the MC and some people...I'M LOOKING AT YOU PAUL)

>Setting must be different since there is too much fantasy already and if it HAS TO BE bloody fantasy then don't make it medieval fantasy 28947592 (see Nectar of Dharani and its industrial era fantasy or any mecha fantasy series), or do it like Unparalleled Path ~ Reincarnated as the AI for a Space Battleship ~ with the MC turning into a battleship AI in a sci-fi setting

>If the MC has to have some special power, then don't make it OP and actually have him work on mastering it and learn more new stuff to be a better MC (and have him screw up from time to time)

>Actually write an interesting and compelling story if you want to be serious

That's it.

>>165551600
Yeah, and after the 1st arc they cannot even look at RPG's anymore. And for good reason.
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>>165551460
>Now Death March on the other hand is fucking moronic.

Don't forget rapid-firing Nano-Desu.
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>>165555933
That's not Isekai. It's more like awakening in the future.
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Bakemonogatari setting except Araragi gets teleported to another universe where kiss shot rules a nation and he has to become a specialist to prevent her from turning everyone into zombies when his alternate universe self dies dramatically
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>>165546367
More dog girls and nudity
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>>165546367
Less sluts and more whores.
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>>165549351
Actually good:
Grimgar (first 3 novels it becomes shit afterwords)
Log Horizon
Re:Zero (anime series/first nine novels it becomes shit afterwords)
Shut Hell
Gunjou Senki
Cavalier of the Abyss

Stuff I'm liking now but who knows how long it will last:
Wortenia Senki
Hiraheishi wa Kako wo Yumemiru
Seirei Gensouki (I hear it becomes terrible)
Risou no Himo Seikatsu (I hear it becomes terrible)

Honorable mentions (probably good but not my choice)
Zippang
Zero no Tsukaima (the original series that probably defined the genre didn't totally popularize itself and make the genre cancer as that was the web novel craze)

Cancer series that should never have gotten popular:
Shield Hero
Re:Monster
Arifureta
Mushoku Tensei
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>>165546367
Making several protagonist iseakaied with cheats fighting each other?
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>>165549351
Dungeon Defense.
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>>165554648
Girls can still self-insert.
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>>165546367

Have MC arrive at a shit situation, like getting captured and sold into slavery or about to be burned as a witch. MC will then unintentionally be released during an attack or bought by someone and released or something similar, and then joins a group of brigands or merc group or something and have to survive using only high school level of knowledge until he is trained enough to fight.

So kinda like Evil Dead: Army of Darkness without the boomstick, car, and textbooks
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>>165550823
Literally existed since ancient Greece
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>>165546367
Season 2 when?
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>>165561150
Isekai Meikyuu anime when.
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>>165556847
Make the MC origninally come from a DIFFERENT high fantasy world. He can still be a fish out of water leading to exposition, while not being boring.
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>>165559405
>>No reincarnation bullshit unless the MC is completely different in personality than he was in his previous life and all his memories are randomly appearing
Reincarnation should keep personality but not memories.
If your personality isn't part of your soul, in what reasonable sense did you reincarnate?
If your memories are bound to your soul, in what reasonable sence did you die?
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>>165563277
Your personality is the way it is because of your memories.
If you have no memories than you don't have a personaliy either.
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>>165551600
>The show from you pic has characters literally comparing their adventure to an RPG, by the way.

yes, THEY compare it as a point of reference to try and get a handle on things. However Cephiro itself is an actual fleshed out world of it's own and not LOL ADVENTURES GUILD AND DEMON LORD!
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>>165549351
>Yondome wa Iyana Shi Zokusei Majutsushi
>Tsuki ga Michibiku Isekai Douchuu
>Akuyaku Reijo ni Koi wo Shite
>Ore no Shibou Flag ga Todomaru Tokoro wo Shiranai
>Genjitsushugisha no Oukokukaizouki
>Isekai no Mahou ha Okureteru
>Kamitachi ni Hirowareta Otoko
>World Teacher
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Soon™
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>>165549351

El Hazard
Escaflowne
Magic Knight Rayearth
Fushigi Yuugi
12 Kingdoms
Maze: The mega burst space

Just off the top of my head
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>>165563929
Those shorts/eyecatches were great.
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>>165563416
Fake news. Personailty is determined mostly by physiology, and can only be influenced by memories.
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>>165564096
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Oyakodon is what they need.
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>>165564446
Arifureta is the closest to an Oyakodon in any isekai I can think of.
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>medieval fantasy society
>Everyone wears modern swimsuits
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>>165564541
They are artifacts from the ancient advanced civilization
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>>165564592

You know it's actually worse when you try to go to lengths to justify it
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>>165564592
No, they were the creation of the first emperor of the far-away nation of Yamato who according to legend came from another world.
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>>165563676
>yes, THEY compare it as a point of reference to try and get a handle on things.
Yeah, and after the 1st arc they can't even look at RPGs anymore. The trauma was too big here.
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>>165565463

Well my point was more that it's not weird for a modern character, especially a younger one to see this shit and comment that it's not unlike a game. It should then quickly be dropped as anything more beyond that is stupid. They have to struggle and get by on real skill and not LOL SUPER GAMER SKILLS!
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>>165565592
Agreed. And this should be limited to this only. Isekai is littered with this kind of bullshit.

Comparing adventuring in another world to a RPG videogame and then realize it's not that easy and it's not a game as you need to actually get good quickly or die? Acceptable.

Having actual game mechanics in a story and have it look like a RPG? That's retarded. A lot of interesting Isekai is immediately ruined by this.
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>>165546367
Everyone's going to say the OP powers or the RPG mechanics or the harems are the problem, but the fundamental issue is that most isekai is originally written by amateur writers with no idea what they're doing.
These stories could be really fun power fantasies if competent writers were working on them, but it's all part-timers writing glorified fanfic. It's worse than the crap in college lit zines.
There's nothing really wrong with the elements of isekai, it's the execution that fails over and over again.
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>>165567127
>There's nothing really wrong with the elements of isekai, it's the execution that fails over and over again.

Agreed and agreed to the whole post.

Ore to Kawazu-san no Isekai Hourouki is liked by me despite a OP as fuck MC due to the fact that he's simply using his nigh-omnipotent powers to do various things and generally having a good time.

The actual thing is that the above isn't written seriously. It doesn't take itself seriously (most of the time that is), while a lot of Isekai are done in a way that makes your brain want to crawl out because of how badly written they are.
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>>165567939
I wish you'd agree to not skip a line every phrase, making your post twice the size it should be.
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>>165567939
OP as fuck MC isn't even an issue if the author isn't retarded and doesn't focus on the MC fighting shit.
That's the problem with most isekai stories with an OP MC: they focus on the MC fighting a bunch of dudes who are never even close to his level and thus the fights are meaningless. Even the few times the MC meets his match the fight is fucking shit.
If you have an OP MC then put the focus on exploring the world, character interactions or something and make the fights as short as possible.
As much as people shit on Overlord, it's one of the few works that mostly focuses on fleshing out the world and character interaction instead of fight bullshit. The few times AInz gets into a fight are pretty short, except for the Shalltear fight, which was pretty much the only time he faced someone who could actually kick his ass.
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yeah, the isekais that aren't about the author's self-insert donut steel character being totally badass holy shit he's so badass are dreadful and doubly so when they're relying on jRPG gameplay mechanics to explain why he's so badass and cool.

Now I don't mind the isekai that remain lighthearted and if they're using jrpg gameplay mechanics they never forget that it's just a jrpg it's NOT fucking reality. Video game mechanics and trying to write a decent fantasy just DOESN'T work, though, I mean JUST IMAGINE if an LN author had written LoTR--it would be Furodou the Self-Insert finds a Magical Ring (???) and has to take it to the Loremaster Elrond (lvl 99) to Cast Identify on it, protected by Aragorn Ranger (level 36) and his friends Samwise Fujobait (lvl1) and Damn Fool Of a Took (level 0)
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>>165568834

It just becomes automatic short hand the the author doesn't know how to create a believable fantasy world when all the go to references are dragon quest.

Dragon Quest sucks
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>>165568389
Its like Superman or Star Trek. The question is not if the protagonist has enough power, it's how they should use it.
Overlord is cool largely because we want to see HOW Ainz will choose to use his power to affect this world, not because we really worry he won't win a fight.
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>>165568389
>OP as fuck MC isn't even an issue if the author isn't retarded and doesn't focus on the MC fighting shit.
Like Isekai no Seikishi Monogatari.
Kenshi was OP as fuck because he had been trained all his life by people that are even more OP.
And the first half of the series was spent on character and worldbuilding. They didn't demonstrate how powerful Kenshi was by having him pound people into the dirt, they had him running from an entire school full of horny girls until they were exhausted.
And when he was put in a fight, he wasn't the only one that did.
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>>165546604
>multiple series featuring a theme
>not a genre
Do you even know what "genre" means?
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>>165546367
Isekai will always be popcorn to fully fleshed out fantasy, but perhaps making an Isekai that is much more like a Power Rangers monster of the Week would be cool. Where the protagonist doesn't just have a purpose, but believes in it truly.

Also, fuck RPG mechanics so hard.
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>>165570495
You mean like Nirvana?
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>>165570495
I would take a million stats over that price haggling shit. It's always stupid as fuck:
>MC:I want to buy this thing
>Merchant: It's worth 2 silver coins
>MC: (Oh wow, 2 silver coins is like 2 million yen, let's see what the market price is with magic)
>MC: Nah, I'll give you 30 copper coins
>Merchant: Oh my God, sasuga MC-sama, your haggling skills truly know no match, you are like a genius merchant, I'll sell it to you for 5 copper coins and give you my daughter too
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>>165546367
Tablets, bigger harems.
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>>165546367
can't fix what aint broken
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>>165562644
>shield hero
>re monster
>arifureta
Confirmed fag with no taste.
I bet you'd put berserk and goblin slayer at the bottom as well wouldn't you, you queer?
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>>165574550
he posted the same thing in another thread, could be a spammer.
>>165567334
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>>165574550
Re:Monster and Arifureta are shit, though.
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>>165574684
I mean rather than spam he probs just has it saved so he can ctrl v whenever
>>165574754
no u
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>>165551941
Wew
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>>165570495
> Where the protagonist doesn't just have a purpose, but believes in it truly.
The Faraway Paladin?
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Make it like juuni kokuki
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>>165546367
You let hollywood have a crack at it.
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>>165547440
you can start one on fictionpress, royal road etc.
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>>165547659
>the majority of Japanese writers are right-wing-aligned
How does this explain the number of isekai stories in which slavery is deemed as an absolute evil to be abolished immediately and monarchies dismantled for republican government and human-dominated hierarchies over other races replaced by multicultural societies?
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>>165551555
kek, this is lovely example of poe's law. i really can't tell.
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>>165555465
faraway paladin v1 is great but v2 was kinda dull. does it get better?
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>>165546367
More grounded in reality and actual worldbuilding instead of MMO world #23232.
If you're gonna give me a world with elves, dwarves, magic, etc etc, I want to see a world whose history, culture and technology has been shaped by these things.
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>>165578985
read a fucking fantasy novel then.
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>>165579034
What makes you think I haven't read some? In fact that's exactly why I like the concept of isekai in the first place.
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Is travelling into the distant future / travelling into the past considered isekai?
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>>165579186
No.
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>>165579269
What if you don't know that it's the future?
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>>165579423
Like pic related? Still not isekai, though honestly the term is so poorly define that it's hard to argue about it.
Like, the only requirement is the protagonist being sent to another world, but it's not clear if virtual realities count as another world or if it only counts if MC is "sent" through magic.
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>other world is a metaphysical inner Earth accessed through faerie circles, deep caverns, and other anomalous portal locations
>humans who go there experience it as a Tolkien-esque fantasy land which has been hacked apart and glued back together with LSD (ie, as fucked up as actual folklore about what happens to people who get taken to the other side)
>since time immemorial, societies have sent champions to the fey realm to drag back weird shit to benefit them or obtain mystic knowledge
>in the modern day, this pursuit ranges from amateurs wandering the wilderness to find random portals to militarily secured locations where special units enter to carry out missions
>MC is a house husband with a 10 year old son who wake up one day to find that their entire town has been "physically" transposed into the other world
>however, the town has also broken into parts and been scattered over the twisting landscape, apparently after his wife left for work early in the morning
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>>165549351
Konosuba is great because it's not a power fantasy nor a world building info dump. It's about characters and humor. The humor is strong because it's not overly reliant on the ironic, self-aware, or referential. In other words, it not only acknowledges you've seen other Isekai stories, but also acknowledges you've seen stories that acknowledge you've seen other stories. it's well ahead of the curve in that sense. Instead it spans many different varieties of humor and instead of trying to fill a harem by archetypes (there is no kuudere, tsundere, or deredere, there are merely crude girls each with their own goals, perspectives, vices) it builds a party out of comedians.

Shining example it is though I love trashy isekai in any form. These days my favorite is Paralel Paradise because the fantasy of being powerful and acquiring women is turned into the fantasy of having the power of acquiring women, who don't put up much fight. it skips a step most Isekai has so it's very direct and if you like the extreme lewdness it's great softcore porn
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>>165579755
I think everyone here agrees that they would put their lives on the line to protect a succubus dream brothel that gives if it's the only place on the planet where you can safely retreat from all of the shitty things that happen in the world.
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>>165580085
I don't even know why the MC leaves that place.
I would be there 24/7 till I run out of money like some addict inside a crackhouse.
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>>165580206
pretty sure the other girls just beat him to death for protecting a succubus.
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>>165546367
no fucking rpg elements
fantasy person -> our world
differences in culture shouldn't just be "oh you're so silly", it should make the audience examine cultural norms
conflict shouldn't be physical




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