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Why didn't you protect this smile?
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>>166489626
At least Shirou got a kiss...
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>>166490253
>cute tsundere elf witch waifu who isn't tsun to you
>crazy bro with a boner for tragedy
>a group of Servants pursuing your goal out of their personal convictions for the pursuit of a better world, even after the revelation of your treachery against their masters

Amakusa had legitimitely better reasons to go on living than Sieg
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>>166491459
This, kisses are basically third base in an anime too pure for actual sex
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Is the OST coming out any time soon? I need the anime version of Quest.
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>>166491551
I have no idea, there are bits and pieces floating around on Youtube for what that's worth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAnX0Get9IM
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>>166491511
did you miss the astolfo S&M?
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>>166491994
Forgot about it but to be fair, there was so little going on Astolfo wasn't even bothered by it. Smacks more of the pervy master just schlicking herself in the corner until he got bored and wandered away.
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>>166491470
I was on board with him until his plan turned out to be instrumentality. I thought it was actually going to be something good going by Achilles' reaction.
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>>166492315
It's not quite as bad as instrumentality, he even said that people would retain their individual selves after losing the need for corporeal form. The whole argument against it is so abstract and philosophical I would still be 100% behind it if I didn't have meta knowledge about timeline pruning from shit like Extella and now F/GO 2

And I wish with all my heart I could ignore Extella.
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>>166491551
https://nyaa.si/view/992553
Here's what came out with the BD

It's missing some tracks I'm pretty sure like what played during the final fight between Sieg & Amakusa
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>>166492566
*abstract, presumptuous and philosophical
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>>166492588
Oh shit are subs out on your end already? Curse this total bitch of a timezone.
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>>166492566
How would that eliminate suffering then? If people are still individual then there'd still be division, like people getting bullied.
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>>166492623
Yup!
https://nyaa.si/view/992454
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Breaking news!!
evil dragon kills Jesus and steals world's only chance at salvation!
more news at 11 l
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>>166489626
Has Semiramis taken cock ?
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>>166492588
>there's no quest
Why do the elevens do this? I just want https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yxq54Vlzy8 but with the extended violin and stuff, pretty sad it's not there unless it's called something else considering it played in the opening fight scene of the first episode.
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>>166492701
I just think immortality would be an improvement from all the bad shit already happening in the Nasuverse. And the Third Magic type of immortality comes with a font of endless mana, which can fix most problems. Because holy shit is there a LOT. Fucking Outer Gods are going to break in of all things

>>166492791
>Local dragonslayer gives his life for a worthless puppet, ruins everything

>>166492800
She literally had a son. But not as a Servant no, too busy for cock.
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Semiramis is the best fate girl.
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>>166492842
>>166492588
Nevermind, it's the first track. Cheers anon.
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>>166489626
I want a game, an extra CCC 2+ or something like that where I can play with an assassin class as a partner. Assassin class deserves more love
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>>166493058
All the otaku would complain about not being able to fight al the strongest servants head on like a big manly man even though Servant battles boil down to (you) cowering behind your hero of legend like in a Pokemon battle. That, or bypassing all the Servant battles because the most efficient way to use an Assassin is to just kill all the Masters before an actual fight can break out.

Assassins literally can't win without totalling the concept of a Grail War-like setup, and that's why they can't ever be relevant
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>>166493230
There just needs to be more samurai type assassins.
>tfw no kenshin servant
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>>166493369
Yeah but at that point you're just working with a Saber you can't powerwank into gaining the power of gods and winning a planet destroying monster's friendship so hard she gave you "her" sword simply through wishful thinking.

The Savior of France has many good attributes, but he doesn't fight like an Assassin at all.
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>>166493058
>Metal Gear like fate game
Fund it
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>>166493736
>fight like an Assassin
But how should an assassin fight like? FSN assassin and other samurai in general can be justified as assassin class by having expert swordsmanship for the sole purpose of killing people. They don't necessarily have to be thief/rogue types. As for big flashy super powers just give them some godly iai strike that shoots bright lights or something, solved.
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>>166489626
She had sex with her own father.
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>>166491470
Amakusa ideal is childish and doesn’t take into consideration the numerous things that exist to threaten the world, from the prophesized return of the Umbral Star after its last assault against Earth 14,000 years ago, the fact that souls manifested by the Third Magic are still corruptible by outside forces like Angras Mud the Goddess of Vengeance or the Chaos Tide, and the fact that such perfect worlds are always pruned by Reality itself.

There’s also the fact that Amakusa is a fallible, completely flawed human being. To the point he mistook his abilities for the power of God when he just performed magecraft without any idea he was doing it in life. Even an idiot can perform magecraft without knowing how like the blonde guy with Waver at the Clock Tower in episode 1. He can summon break the most powerful forms of magic without any idea how he did it.
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>>166494085
The Old Men of the Mountains stand out as a good example desu. Actually weren't they supposed to be the only Assassin Servants at one point?

>hard to detect
>fast and agile as fuc boi
>NPs reflect sheer killing prowess, good at whittling people down instead of one big attack
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>>166494093
Literally nothing wrong with incest, it promotes healthy magical eye growth and other superpowers.
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So, now that I've been introduced to the Nasuverse by Apocrypha, what order should I watch the mainline series in, assuming I don't play VNs. I know there's a lot of watch orders already floating around the 'net, but I don't trust Reddit.
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>>166489626
I wasn't able to protect the other smiles. Why did you think I would be able to protect that one.
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>>166494626
>introduced to the Nasuverse by Apocrypha
This guy
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>>166494626
>introduced to the Nasuverse by Apocrypha
>astolfo trapfag
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>>166494626
>introduced to the Nasuverse by Apocrypha
>Reddit.
Just get the fuck out
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>>166489626
This was the only worthy scene of the show. It's sad that they got so little attention.
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>>166494788
>Includes Carnival Phantasm and Prisma Ilya
I don't know if this is a troll, or if whoever made this just has bad taste, but either way it doesn't help me, as I just said I don't play VNs
>>166494855
I heard it was "relatively self contained", so I jumped into it.
>>166494889
I know he's a trap, but I thought that cap would make a good reaction macro.
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>>166494989
>dismissing carnival phantasm and prisma illya
Holy shit gas yourself stupid trapfaggot.
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>>166494982
Why do elf waifus in Fate try so hard to pretend they're evil bitches when all they really want to do is settle down and have a family?
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>>166495086
Being introduced by trapfaggotry is a million times worse, and you can plainly see it from his posts in here right now.
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>>166495086
>MAL and Reddit.
Fucking kill yourself
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>>166495086
>MAL and Reddit.
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>>166494989
But why go out of your way to avoid the VN?
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Because I thought her design was good at first but then realized she had 0 time on screen and the little time there was constituted of a relationship with that one fuck that made about as much sense as the one the mc had to that prostitute.
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>>166495133
Because otherwise people won't take them seriously and think they're rape toys. It's tough being an elf girl.
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>>166495163
>>166495213
try to read the Fate threads in mal and reddit
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>>166495053
The first is "light-hearted" and the second is a loli magical girl show, neither of which is my cup of proverbial tea.

I'm just gonna go with UFOtable's UBW, since one thing I DO remember is that the DEEN versions are trash.

>>166495086
The were shilling that HARD at the convention, but since I used to play mobages long before that term even existed, I knew very well to steer clear of it.
>>166495154
I didn't know Astolfo was a trap until Jeanne found out. Honestly I found that annoying because, as another Anon said, I find it hard to take traps seriously as main characters.
>>166495163
You're just replying to anyone who uses those words, regardless of context, aren't you?
>>166495240
I just don't like to play VNs. I find it boring, I can't read through as fast as I can read manga or LNs, and most of them only work on Windows.
>>166495294
Why would I, or anyone else here, want to inflict such torture upon themselves?
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I want to touch an elf.
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>>166495407
I don't really see how, but if VNs just don't work for you, try out other type moon stuff like Tsuki no Sango or Kara no Kyoukai. The highlights are the VNs. Most of everything else is secondary.
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Assassin a cute
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>>166494291
>mfw every time someone on the board thinks they can actually pull through an assassin class win

Assassin cant protect their masters because the operate at long range, your own positioning would have to be absolutely perfect 24/7 so no one will murder YOU while your servant is away and you have to not make a single mistake in the grail war because you both are fragile as fuck.
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>That first track in the OST
Truly the "You Say Run" of Apocrypha
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>>166495842
>summon servant in the secrecy of your basement
>spend all your time watching anime while assassin goes out doing things
?
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>>166495842
>so no one will murder YOU while your servant is away
What is a Command Seal
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>>166495948
You think you are gonna react faster than some heroic spirit gonna murder you boi? Hell, some Archers can just blast you and your home out of existence from kms away.
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>>166495811
If the quality is decent, I really don't care whether it's primary or secondary, but I do want it to be of the Fate mainline series. I feel it's gotten to the point that it's "something I should watch" like Eva, Madoka, and Haruhi. But from what I've seen so far, I do genuinely enjoy it.
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I forgot, why did Sieg turn into a dragon?
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>>166496071
>grail war
>destroying houses and buildings with loud flashy attacks
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>>166496196
Fate anime isn't really all that important in comparison to something like Eva. There's frequent threads yeah, but if you're not gonna read the VN it's not really worth getting into. All you'll really have is ufotable UBW and Zero.
Aside from that, there really isn't all that much material. There's like two games and three light novels that aren't from the original author
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I admit a secondary, but as flawed as this was I enjoyed it. Almost all the female characters and a couple of the male servants were likeable and Jeanne is very cute.
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>>166496650
*I admit I am
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Can someone explain me one thing. At the end of ep21 Caules and Fiore watching Chiron death from a plane. At the beginning of the ep22 Caules already hiding from Lancer with fires around. What the fuck hapoened in between?
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>>166496362
He ask the GG to fasten the process of his dragonshifting. Then He flew to the RSotW with the GG as the world rejects his existence.
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>>166496905
Did he also do something to let Rider remain in the world or is rider still receiving mana from him or something?
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Can someone explain how Sieg getting struck by Fran's lightning somehow permanently gave him her full power unlike Siegfried giving his heart yet his strength can only be called on via command seals for 5 minutes per pop?
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>>166496981
Magic
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>>166494209
>Amakusa's ideal is childish and doesn’t take into consideration numerous things that he has no way of knowing about
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>>166496981
hacks
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>>166496981
Because the command seals were linked to the Servant core aka heart. Since Fran only tranferred energy to Sieg and not a physcial part of herself no command seals were obtained either.
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Are there any other good sub groups besides UTW? I don't like how liberal they are with their "localizations", if you can even call it that.
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>>166497387
APEX, their subs are better than UTW's by far

>I dedicate it to you with great respect
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>>166496981
Siegfried is the dragon-slayer who became immortal by bathing in dragon’s blood, and Sieg get his heart, currently Siegfried’s blood flows in the veins of Sieg. Sieg is immortal Siegfried.
After gaining Saber of Black’s heart, his appearance physically changes and he gains a stronger constitution which leads Rider of Black to claim he can live for more than 100 years. However, while Siegfried’s body could withstand the dragon blood within it, Sieg’s body can’t. That is reason that the spots on Sieg’s hand where the Command Spells disappeared from turned black and his body gets dark spots like those of a Dragon every time he uses the Siegfried’s transformation ability. After use all of their Command Spells
Sieg managed to barely maintain his human form thanks to the power Sieg obtained from Frankenstein’s “Blasted Tree: Lightning Branch of Crucifixion” .
The lightning carries her will as written in Frankenstein’s notes and explained in the LN. Sieg activated the Siegfried’s transformation skill and received the Galvanism at once due to the lightning, so it isn’t surprising that he could eventually manifest Blasted Tree as he was already using Galvanism on order to spam Balmung during his battle against Karna.
Blasted Tree has the power to make another Frankenstein monster, so it happened. Also this triggered Siegfried’s transformation skill. Blasted Tree has this ability inscribed into it. That lightning is basically Fran’s will, and she wished to remain in this world so that Sieg could avenge her of the terriblethings that Shirou and Shakespeare made the her during her battle against them. Also, by jumpstarting the Siegfried’s transformation skill, Sieg could regenerate much faster, just like Siegfried.
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>>166497431
They didn't do every episode though? At least it seems like they're missing some on nyaa.
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>>166497446
>The lightning carries her will as written in Frankenstein’s notes and explained in the LN. Sieg activated the Siegfried’s transformation skill and received the Galvanism at once due to the lightning, so it isn’t surprising that he could eventually manifest Blasted Tree as he was already using Galvanism on order to spam Balmung during his battle against Karna.
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>>166497522
Its based on the concept of homonculi acting as conduits. If Illya can act as a conduit for a holy grail due to her heart, then Sieg can act as a conduit for Siegfried by having his literal heart. Because Siegfried is now a heroic spirit, Sieg gets quasi command spells which enforce his will over Siegfried’s manifested form. However, Sieg is just a mass produced homonculi unlike super special Illya; so his projection capacity is limited to a short timer before his body gives out.

This also operates along the same premise of Shirou containing Avalon within him. Just as Shirou can tap into Avalon, Sieg can tap into Siegfried’s noble phantasm. Nobody is really aware of this in the setting because none of the characters are familiar with the specifics of the latest Fuyuki Holy Grail War.
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>>166497577
I get the Siegfried stuff, just not why he got Frankenstein's full power from a lightning shot.
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>>166496981
Fran has a power called Galvanism that lets her draw energy from her surroundings and convert it to mana. Her NP has a chance of spawning another Frankenstein after use.
In the simplest way to put it her NP gave her powers to Sieg as a way of sort of recreating herself. It's easier to just accept Fran's entire existence was to have a plot reason to make Sieg strong enough to win against Amakusa.
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>>166496366
You say that, but Saber was about to fire Excalibur inside Shirou's house in a residential area against some skeletons. Just imagine how little other servants care in comparison or if insane ones like Gilles get summoned.
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Why did Shirou wait until team black came to invade to use the grail instead of shortly after it was successfully stolen?
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>>166496979
Their contract still remains despite Sieg in RSoTW
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>kotomine shirou
>It's not a Shirou adopted by Kirei
I got memed on.
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So Jannu who had no feelings for a guy suddenly can't stop thinking of Sieg? Laeticia starts saying its her fault she is feeling this way. Later Laeticia admits she only admired him. Jannu confesses her love to Sieg randomly in the mild of space. All their interactions felt forced as fuck.
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>>166497760
The only reason I can think of is that Shakespeare needed more time to write shit so that things would work out the way Shirou wanted them to. Probably just a plot convenience/hole
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>>166494626
Fate/Zero -> Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Bladeworks (TV) + prologue -> Heaven's Feel movies (when they're available).

Apocrypha is an alternate/parallel universe to FSN. Divergence starts before Fate/Zero I believe.
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Why was Shakespeare so useless? Karna hyped him up vs Jeanne but he didn't do anything new or significant. If you had him in a normal battle royale grail war you would just tell him to kill himself and drop out.
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>>166498108
This. Imagine the possibilities
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>>166497706
>Karna in residential area
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I had a dream that I would post this on 4chan on a Fate thread, and because it is the new year - fuck it:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L8wHteSOwW4
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>>166492566
Extella was great.
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Philosopher servents when? Now that we have Shakespeare, I would love to see a battle of ‘feels vs reals’ between Mark, Kant and Nietzsche. What would Schopenhauer's noble phantasm be? suicide?
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>>166492588
Based thanks
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>>166500208
Memes aside Shakespeare was pretty fucking effective in show actually. He hold off berserker forcing a command seal to be used and he almost removed a fucking Ruler from the game.
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>>166489626
Don't worry, (You) will protect it in FGO.
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>>166500309
He would be effective if the grail wars were a team game instead of "1 winner only at the end". Otherwise he's pure support and would never win a war.
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>>166500546
He could work with a battle master who can destroy servants while Shakespeare incaps them i.e Kayneth or Soichirou or Kirei. On last two he could enchant their weapons with magic like he did with Shirou's blade.
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>>166500662
They would still be a third rate team who loses against a real servant. Fucking Shirou couldn't even demolish Berserker or Sieg-zerker despite being a servant AND having an enchanted sword, which tells me his enchants are shittier than FSN Caster's.
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>>166500723
All casters are third rate in fate because bullshit requirements so that is fine.
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>>166489626
>mfw the last 2 episodes are frustrating to watch as fuck because I like Amakusa, Semi and Shake way waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than Sieg, Jannu and Astolfo
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>>166489626
People who summon Assassin should save everyone time and just drop out of the war. How useless.
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>>166500662
These visions seem to last an incredibly long time, but how much time is actually passing in the real world? A combat oriented master like Bazett combined with that NP would be effective if it takes a few seconds to break out of. It's even better if they happen to be rendered momentarily defenseless afterwards like Fran was.
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>>166495842
>Summon the 4th Horseman (Death, riding an ashen horse) as Assassin
>Has ability to zoom anywhere at anytime on his heavenly mount
>basically Rider but with Asssassin class bonuses
>OP as fuck, if not the single best ever, Assassin due to being literal personification of death
Just get the fuck out of my way, scrubs. This Grail War is mine.
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what the hell was in the Waver's box? don't tell me it was Iskandar's cap
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>>166501277
You fucking idiot of course it was Iskandar’s cap.
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Post Amakusa and Semiramis images. They were just too good. The episode was over by the beginning because the best scene was at the very start.
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>>166491470
she is half mermaid not elf
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>>166501219
>Last master has Seiba class servant
>Never separate
>Always do things together

Your move?
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>>166501219
don't think that is possible
seramis had the duel class of assassin with caster abiltities because shirou used his Ruler abilities to 'hack' her summoning to give her that.
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>>166501289
then it doesn't make any sense
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>>166501481
Double SummonEdit

Double Summon (二重召喚, Nijū Shōkan?) is a rare Personal Skill possessed only by a few select Servants, it permits a Servant to simultaneously possess Class Skills from two distinct classes. It is limited only to some of the extra classes, the cavalry classes;

FGO made it real anon....Semiramis can officially be double class.
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>>166501481
How is it not possible? In the book of revelations, Death appears as the final horseman to kill off the entire world and herald in the apocalypse. The ideal assassin. The fact that he also happens to ride a horse doesn't change this fundamental class alignment.
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WTF?
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>>166501429
1. Offer Saber a coupon for a free trip to an all-you-can-eat buffet
2. Murder her master while she's distracted
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So, Sieg is going to fuck Jeanne?
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>>166501570
woudn't pappa bones fall under that category?
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>>166501609
Jeanne is the Maiden of France. She is not for sexual.
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>>166501603
Masterpiece.
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>>166501609
>strong and thick dragon dick
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>>166501633
>Maiden of France.
Was*
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>>166501703
>implying that dragons are attractive
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>>166491470
Obviously. Red is superior.
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>>166497760
He needed to wait until the grail stabilized and for Shakespeare to get done writing.
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>>166503219
Red was always superior.

The fact that they had Saber of Red fuck off right at the beginning was a sign that they were too damn OP.
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I liked it. CCC adaptation when.
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>>166501732
>He hasn't seen the power of a dragon cock
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>>166503219
What's with the catgirls all of the sudden?
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>>166503767
Tamamo is a cute fox
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>>166503868
What's Tamamo's legend? I don't into classical Japanese mythology
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>>166503219
>No Semiramis
>You posting a picture without best girl

You and author should just kill you are selves.
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Meh.
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>>166500208
real footage of the next holy grail war:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZQJFbrqjUY
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>>166503504
>Karna and Tamamo together
?
Is it the Sun-based relation?
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>>166504308
Are you satisfied now?
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So as someone who stopped watching after episode 3 who won the grail this time?
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>>166505232
No.....there is not enough fanart with her because she didnt make it to FGO.
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>>166504911
Karna thinks she's cool in ccc and sides with her in Extella. He also thinks Emiya is a huge faggot.
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>>166505253
Brown priest.
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>>166504308
I will never not be angry that their kiss wasn't an illustration in the LNs.
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So, what happens to Astolfo now? He will say a Servant forever and never die?
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>>166505939
Whos supplying him mana even.
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>>166505986
He's getting dragon power from the reverse side of the world.
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>>166505986
He probably fucks Homonculi, they remind him of Sieg so it's perfect.
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>>166506131
Why doesn't the Grail continue using Heaven's Fell from the reverse side of the world then?
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>>166505939
He touched the grail. Last two servants that did that reincarnated
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>>166505939
Hopefully he fucks off. I hated that faggot
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>>166492773
Shakespeare staying based till the very end.
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>come for Mordred, her Necromancer master, black Shiro, Semiramis, and Franky
>get boring christkike, boring homunculus, and trap instead
This show was fucking garbage.
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>>166494982
Loved the way this part was directed. Her catching his hand as it fell was a really nice touch.
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>>166492588
1 and 16 and are my jam
All i need now is the last battle OST
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>>166497687
That's because of the thingies on her head.
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>>166489626
That confession.
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Is there anyone able to beat this guy?
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>>166510588
How would the other Shiro get along with Semiramis if she was his servant?
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>>166511055
Me
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I wanted to wait for UTW but i guess ill just watch it twice.

Also is this kino?
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>>166503219
The guy who is famous for breaking out of his chains doesn´t have the power to ignore command spells.

You have one job Spartacus.
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>>166492773
Seriously underdeveloped yet the few moments with him made the show.
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>>166496981
Receiving a Noble Phantasm > Receiving a Servant's body parts
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>>166512269
Wrong mask.
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>>166491459
Friendly kiss
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>>166515547
full frontal from Gundam Unicorn
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>>166515609
Poisoned Friendly Kiss
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>>166515689
I did notice how he died right after she kissed him, that sly she-elf
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>>166491470
Sumanai
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>>166517049
quaternary-kun that plays only the waifu/husbando collection game, reads a doujin or two, and sees some fanarts and then pretends to know what they’re talking about.
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>>166519626
WHORE OF BABYLON!
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Left or Right?
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>>166520400
>choosing between whores
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Fate need more swedish kings. I'd kill for the lion from the north or karl xii.
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Is Sieg plot armor thicker than Shirou's?
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>>166521895
Shirou somehow worked or earned for things he got while Sieg was in general given everything.
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>>166521895
Sieg gets about as much stuff in one story as Shirou gets in three routes and then some, so yeah.
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>>166521250
Seiba is a bigger whore, though.
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>>166489626
Semiramis is best girl of 2017 for me.
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>>166521895
>avalon,
>projections
>magic resurrection jewel from Rin
>Gil didn't use armor againt Shirou
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>>166522347
>special homunculus
>become Sigurd
>inherit frankensteins powers
>gain a servant while being two servants
>have ruler on your side
The only reason I like Shirou more is because Shirou is somewhat an interesting character compared to Sieg. Otherwise, the plot armor is pretty strong for both of them.
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>>166522347
The whole arm thing is bullshit, too.
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>>166494626
First thing first you should get the fuck out of this board and never come back.
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>>166491470
The chunni man-child priest died thinking he came to realize his childsh wish.

I laughed so hard I peed my pants
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>>166494291
Whittling people down is meaningless. Most Servants are considerably stronger than they are, and Masters can be killed very easily.
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>>166501131
Semiramis was one of the strongests servants in Apoc she can probably go toe to toe with Gil.
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So who would win, Heroic Spirit Emiya or Amakusa Shirou?
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>>166526303
Emiya. Amakusa's parameters suck; he only went to the finals of the Third HGW because of his Command Spells over enemy servants and in Apocrypha, Super Saiyan Green Sieg wasn't that much
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Not quite as good as Escalfowne's final moments, but it was a tender finale.
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>>166526429
Really? I've just googled it and it looks like Emiya has generally worse stats aside from NP.
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Can Jeannu use La Pucelle in Fate Extella?
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>>166526583
Yes, but Emiya has advantage of equipments. His Kanshou and Bakuya naturally already boost his strength and mana resistance for example and in addition to that he has a wide arsenal, broken phantasms and better efficiency in mana consuption. Amakusa Shirou has a powerful shielding NP, but it has a terrible efficiency and aside from that all he has are Black Keys and Caster's sword.
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>>166526583
Kanshou and Bakuya grant a boost to his defensive values. His weapon tracing lets him kinda emulate the movements of a weapon's original owners, although this is unreliable since it takes control of his own body away from him.

More important than that, though, are his Noble Phantasms and skills. He has an exceptionally wide range of tactical options, and coupled with his Eye of the Mind skill, he's basically got an answer for just about anything. He's one of the biggest wild card Servants, and depending on the circumstances, he could wreck even the strongest of Servants if the situation is favorable to him. On the other hand, he has to work very hard and plan ahead in order for that to work, so it's not like he's the strongest Servant.

Basically, depending on the cards he has available to him, he could take out half of Herakles' lives or get beaten half to death by Cu Chulainn. At the very least, though, I'd say that Amakusa's at a disadvantage.
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>>166526303
Emiya should win. However, his ability to fail in some way should not be underestimated.
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Funny thing about Emiya is that he's, in many ways, the worst possible opponent against Ruler Amakusa. What the hell is True Name Disceernment gonna help? "Oh, so his True Name is Emiya. .....Wait, who's Emiya?"
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>>166526800
I dunno. Historically, Kotomines have had a poor track record against Emiyas.
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>>166526303
Emiya should win due to his wide arsenal of weapons and the amount of options he has and Amakusa himself isn't that strong a servant the fact he needed Shakespeare to enchant his blade is proof.
However, if they're both summoned from the same Holy Grail then Amakusa would win by default since he's a Ruler and he could just use a CS and EMIYA would kill himself.
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>>166506216
It is, but there aren't any humans in the reverse side of the world. That is the reason why he took it there in the first place speedreader-kun
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>>166526935
Jeanne says that's a pointless act, since the Master could just cancel out that Command Spell by going "Don't die".
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>>166526640
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukcSnPN0HMI
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>>166526640
Yes she does use La Pucelle in Fate Extella but she kills herself using it, so its really shit, since you can only use it once and it has to be to finish the battle otherwise its game over for you.
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>>166526877
That reminds me of that Justice League episode where Lex switches bodies with Flash.
>Unmasks and looks in the mirror
>"I have no idea who this is."
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>>166527026
>>166527059
Well, at least it stays true to the source material.
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>>166529341
>forces shakes to not write a bad ending about him
>actual author does it anyway
Not meta enough
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>>166529426
Yeah, missed a good one there.
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>>166526907
Yeah, but this also happens to be another Shirou vs Red Man fight.
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>>166530974
Smugusa when????
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>>166489626

I need another season of Carnival Phantasm where they're both happily married dammit ;_;
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How do you feel about this, Semibros?

https://exhentai.org/g/1162024/d87feed2e4/
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>>166533006
Why is Astolfo more manly in this picture while Semiramis is more moe?
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>>166533006
It was only matter of time.
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>>166533006
I wish that were me.
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>>166524118
>man-child priest
Amakusa is 16.
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>>166492866
>ruins everything
s-sumanai
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>>166522237
I can't believe that Semiramis cheated on Shirou with Gilgamesh of all people.
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>>166522430
>complaining about Sieg using the powers of other servants when Shriou could asspull the power of almost every servant if he wanted
>>166533378
and all this time I thought he was a cute little manlet
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>>166534233
It wasn't complaints, but rather pointing out some of Sieg's bullshit. Even if Sieg has less plot armor, due to Shirou's UBW, Shirou is still more likable as a character than Sieg.
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>>166533006
Who the fuck wants to see Astolfo having sex with women?
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>>166533006
That felt more like a backstory than porn to me
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Does Semi get more time and backstory in the novels?
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>>166535219
>Shitrou
>Likeable
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>>166536367
Are you even following that we compare Shirou with Sieg?
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>>166536316
She has a a couple more scenes that the anime skipped (most of the Red Team does). For example, early on Shirou and Semiramis had a bet that he could get the Red Masters to hand him over the command seals right away. He loses and gives her an expensive bottle of wine.

There is also a moment towards the end when Karna admits he is jealous of her relationship with Shirou, calling them an ideal master servant pair. She gets offended that he thinks she wouldn't betray Shirou if needed. Karna then pretty much spells it out for her that she likes Shirou.
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Sieg literally steals IMMORTALITY from humanity. Should he not be considered the greatest villain?
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>>166494989
Just go back to /v/ you stupid fuck.
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>>166521895
Sieg was the definition of plot armor.
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>>166537037
Maybe I should read them then.
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>>166489626
It gave me hope that in spite of how FGO has made a lot of Servants waifus, bros, jesters, and daughterus, the creative team of related productions isn't afraid of showing how brutal and scary they can be.

We can still have relatively serious stories with all these characters AND have chill times with them in the Gacha game!
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>>166503868
Jackal
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>>166491470
>>166494209
>>166497073
>>166524118
>Amakusa dies thinking he succeeded
>gets summoned in Fate Grand Order and sees that this isn't the case
>he shrugs, takes it in stride, and immediately betrays his new Master the moment an opportunity to hijack a Grail presents itself

What an utter dick.
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>>166537037
>There is also a moment towards the end when Karna admits he is jealous of her relationship with Shirou, calling them an ideal master servant pair. She gets offended that he thinks she wouldn't betray Shirou if needed. Karna then pretty much spells it out for her that she likes Shirou.

Well of course Karna would be jealous of her being the villain's bestie since he was a close friend to what was essentially the Hindu Anti-Christ in his myth
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>>166539367
Is he talking to Wukong?
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>>166539389
Arjuna.
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Not to be that faggot, but
>Karna vs Gilgamesh
Who wins?
Gilgamesh thanks to Enkidu, right?
I mean, Karna looks like he's a fucking god, I swear no one expect Gilgy or some other bullshitty Servant can defeat him
Jeanne?
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>>166539666
It depends. Gil's disgust at Karna's martyrdom would cause him to either fight seriously or sloppily. No middle ground. In a straight up max-output fight, Gil would manage to beat him as he's canonically stronger than Karna as shown in Extella.

A serious Karna also lost to Cu Alter, a dark version of the Irish hero conjured up by Queen Medb.
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>>166492566
>extella and fgo2

The loss of human potential thing is a pretty recurrent theme and dates all the way back to the first extra and even Notes if we're being autistic about it
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>>166539666
Karna is up there with the strongest servants in general, but it's not enough to take down Gil. Him being too arrogant wouldn't be his downfall when it comes to Karna, since he goes into the super serious mode when he sees him. He's also one of the few characters who actually impresses Gil.

>Gilgamesh stands still. He wasn’t shocked by the flash of light just now. He’s genuinely amazed by the power of the Servant before us. A lean figure in black and gold. Calm eyes, but with a glint piercing as a spear. White hair that lies as it pleases. The hard set of his lips expresses a taciturn disposition. This is Jinako’s Servant…As a Master, even a inexperienced one, I can tell in one glance. This Servant is a heroic spirit on the same level as Leo’s Gawain, possibly even higher. …just maybe, even Gilgamesh at his full strength would have to concede some small amount to this Servant —
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>>166536316
Yes, reading them makes Apo a lot better imo.
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>>166539666
Gawain is not bullshitty. He just has squashed peas for brains.
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>>166540068
Any idea on when will the last volume get translated?
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>>166527010
But how will the master give the command before the servant suicides?
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>>166540101
I haven't checked in a while, but BL moves in mysterious ways.
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>>166540086
Mind telling me how does Gawain actually beat Karna? Is it because of his mana restrictions due to his master being shit?
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>>166540193
Cuz Lancers are shit.SHIT!
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>>166539666
Enkidu is not an instant win, Gilgamesh admitted Iskandar had a shot vs him before they fought and Cu fucked him up in the half-day they fought for.
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>>166540193
You know how Superman gets super powerful if exposed to extra strong sunlight? Same thing. Although Gawain's Master also cast a minor spell that prevented Gawain from getting burnt out by the energy surge.
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>>166540193
Top tier master support vs a master that fucks him over by making him NP at the worst time. If it was just Gawain vs Karna Gawain would have died.
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>>166540193
Leo is a top tier Master and he read Karna like a fiddle.
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>>166540291
I'm sorry, I'm not usually this retarded
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>>166494626
I literally hope you die. Not joking or memeing. Fuck you and everything you care about.
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>>166494982
I'm downright astonished at how hard you people seem to be shilling for this scene and the Amakusa/Semiramis pairing in general. They have no chemistry together, their origins as people have nothing in common, Semiramis's legend is about how she only had one man she ever loved and she'll never love anyone else (but still enjoys good dickings from eunuchs and playing with her harem of hot slave women). Semiramis's legend as a mighty queen was simply ignored in favor of having her get with Amakusa, which in turn serves no purpose except to explain why she never just betrays him like she normally would. But they could have explained that a million other ways than "she's in love with him," and only laziness on Higashide's part made it be that.

The absolute worst part is that the reason why Semiramis falls in love with Amakusa is identical to the shallow and unbelievable reason why girls fall in love with any harem protagonist: "He's a nice guy" and "he doesn't want to have sex with me that means I have to love him instead of being offended or just not giving a shit about him"

It's just sad that viewers were so desperate to find any redeeming qualities whatsoever in this pile of shit that they latched onto one adequately directed scene and think that it justifies a pairing that is based on hollow bullshit.
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>>166540313
fat
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>>166540618
>justifying love
>reasons for love
Stop with this bullshit.
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>>166540618
But Semiramis x Amakusa was one of the best things in shitfest apoc. Why are you mad?
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>>166540919
Yes, despite the memes, love does not just happen for no reason. Amakusa is a soyboy wannabe saint and Semiramis loved a real man, a general and a hero.
>>166540921
It was shitty, you just can't see that because it was surrounded by even stinkier shit. Amakusa/Semiramis is the king of shit mountain and ruins Semiramis as a character forever.
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>>166540983
Did you read the LN or just straight up watched apoc/read the wiki?

If you weren't here when /a/ was reading translations of Apoc then you do not know what you are really talking about.
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>>166541073
You dumb fucking nigger, the LNs are the only thing that even explain why Semiramis fell in love with Amakusa and it being because Amakusa never laid a hand on her. It's the shallowest, stupidest reason for someone to fall in love with someone else ever. Like, it's like saying you fell in love with someone you were formerly completely neutral towards because they didn't drive their car into yours. It's a common fucking courtesy.
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>>166540983
>soyboy
go back to /v/ you piece of shit
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>>166541142
You really haven't read jackshit. If you knew even Semiramis' profile you'd know why she liked amakusa.
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>>166540618
You've got it all wrong, but the anime does a pretty shitty job of fleshing out Semiramis and Shirou's relationship, so that's understandable.
Semiramis falls in love with Shirou because she is a mighty queen, not in spite of it. If you read about her legend, you'll see that she spends most of her early life being passed back and forth between powerful men who only want her for her hot mermaid body. So what does she doe when she finally asserts herself by becoming the first poisoners and the Queen of Assyria? Become a legendary BDSM styled hardass that doesn't take shit from anyone.
This is reflected in her Servant design. Just look at all the unnecessary spikes. She isn't Medusa, she isn't going to be kicking someone with those heels, she wears them as a great big warning sign. She knows she's beautiful and because of how her beauty got her treated in real life she assumes that the first thing that you, me or any other hotblooded Master is going to do when they summon her is either ask her to step on their balls or use their command spell to make her get all Medea-tier lovey dovey with you.

She falls for Shirou because he's the first person to see her as a capable human being, not just a pretty face or a sexy Queen they have to obey. He treats her how she wants to be treated, an honorable combatant in a war between legendary heroes. She doesn't care about whether he's nice and while she's impressed that he doesn't want to fuck her, that's not her actual reason. It's because he was the first person to actually respect her for who she was.

Sure, she probably goes overboard with the PDAs once she has a soft-spot for him, but at first it's just her way of returning a favor for treating her as she wanted to be treated without having a ulterior motive behind it. Of course, Shirou is just using her feelings because he's playing mental-chess with everyone but Karna. That's fine, I like Amakusa's asshole tendencies as well, he isn't a nice guy like Shirou.
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>>166541276
So basically, Semi loves Amakusa because of her legend, not in spite of it.
Semiramis is cute, Shirou is cute, respect one of the few things that made Apocrypha bearable along with Achilles Cosmos, KOE and Karna being beautiful.
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>>166541203
Prove it then dumbshit
>>166541276
>It's because he was the first person to actually respect her for who she was.
But that's wrong you fucking retard, everyone in the world respected the legendary Semiramis for her accomplishments. She was more successful and had a greater empire than Gilgamesh ever did, and she was never defeated in her military conquests. All this shit about "hurr durr everyone just wanted to fuck her" is bullshit and completely made up, and it insinuates that you can't respect someone and also want to fuck them which is even more horseshit.
But the worst part about it is that it implies she's someone who NEEDS a man all along. It makes her some shitty slut who is so desperate for THE RIGHT KIND OF MAN that she bends right over and lets Amakusa use and abuse her for his stupid ass schemes. Amakusa didn't woo her, he didn't do anything to prove he actually loves her. I mean, fucking shit, how retarded is it that she just falls right in love with him because he doesn't love her? What the fuck?
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>>166540618
Perfect
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>>166540921
nice meme
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>>166536316
>>166537796
Both Zero and Apocrypha anime skip stuff.
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>>166541419
>But that's wrong you fucking retard, everyone in the world respected the legendary Semiramis for her accomplishments.
Maybe the real Semiramis did, but the Heroic Spirit Semiramis was obviously more affected by her treatment than the real her. Like I said, she goes down in myth as "wow my beautiful queen, so scary and beautiful." Even Shakespeare goes on and on about how pretty she is. It's grating and degrading for someone who doesn't want to be seen that way, she's the eyes and ears of their operation and all she hears coming out of the only "normal" person in their jolly autistic crew is "You're hot" and she hates it.
>But the worst part about it is that it implies she's someone who NEEDS a man all along.
That does not imply anything close to that, it only shows that Semiramis was unfulfilled with how everyone else treats her that she's willing to latch on to the first person that. He didn't need to love her, he just happened to be the only person who could have treated her exactly the way she wanted to be treated.
If you want Semi to have someone who loves them back wait until she's added to F/GO and throws away her character for the sake of an actual, bland "nice guy."
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>>166541276
>generic chunni priest shouting ''I want to save mankind'' and
>generic MUH girl Screaming ''I want to villain's dick''

MEH
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>>166541782
>Maybe the real Semiramis did, but the Heroic Spirit Semiramis was obviously more affected by her treatment than the real her.
What is even the fucking point if they're just going to write fanfiction to make legends fall into whatever square shaped hole they need them to fulfill?
>inb4 read the VN
I'm sick and fucking tired of every Fate author just making shit up and changing legends solely so that heroes will do this one thing in the plot that they need them to do and can't find a way to justify it. Nasu is just as guilty of it as Higashide but that doesn't mean I have to like it every time it happens.
>That does not imply anything close to that, it only shows that Semiramis was unfulfilled with how everyone else treats her that she's willing to latch on to the first person that.
Which fucking means she NEEDS a man who can 'fulfill' her, you just said the same shit I did except reworded to sound nicer.
>He didn't need to love her, he just happened to be the only person who could have treated her exactly the way she wanted to be treated.
Semiramis's husband she loved because he loved her too. It's completely batshit insane for her to fall in love with someone who regards her as a tool, because it shows the exact same lack of respect for her as what she accuses all the made up people that never existed in her actual legend of doing.
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>>166541782
>someone who doesn't want to be seen that way
>Dresses like that

I'm not that anon and I don't really care much about the rest of the argument, but come on.
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>>166535256
this
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>>166535256
Me.
Scan of doujin of Astolfo fucking Jeanne when?
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/a/ has no personality.

if random shitposter says that ice cream is bad and shit is delightful and it makes its own words and begins shittiposting about that fucking shit throughout the entire show.
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>>166541910
>fanfiction
Different universe, different people.
>Semiramis's husband she loved because he loved her too.
Put obviously not the way that Semiramis wanted to be loved.
>It's completely batshit insane for her to fall in love with someone who regards her as a tool
A Servant isn't just a tool, they're the highest ranking magical familiar. Semiramis likes that Shirou acknowledges and respects the fact that she's the best at what she does and not just a pretty face. That's how the Servant Semiramis wanted to be treated, and then Shirou goes and ups his game by promising her the world. It doesn't matter that Shirou didn't actually love her, he knew how to play her as effectively as anyone else who didn't already know that he was the "bad guy" or had a skill that let them see through his deception.

>>166541969
You don't put spikes through your hands if you want someone to come up and hug you.
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>>166542266
>Put obviously not the way that Semiramis wanted to be loved.
Dumbass, he's the one she loved more than anyone else in the world and that got murdered by the king.
>A Servant isn't just a tool, they're the highest ranking magical familiar. Semiramis likes that Shirou acknowledges and respects the fact that she's the best at what she does and not just a pretty face. That's how the Servant Semiramis wanted to be treated, and then Shirou goes and ups his game by promising her the world. It doesn't matter that Shirou didn't actually love her, he knew how to play her as effectively as anyone else who didn't already know that he was the "bad guy" or had a skill that let them see through his deception.
You realize how ridiculous it is for someone of Semiramis's fame and stature to realize they are nothing more than a tool to someone else and fall head over heels with that person? If Amakusa really respected her he wouldn't have summoned her as an Assassin, he would have summoned her as a more respectable class as the proud and strong monarch that she actually was.
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Why did they make Astolfo such a gay ass bottom bitch?
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>>166542625
>Dumbass, he's the one she loved more than anyone else in the world and that got murdered by the king.
If you're going to get mad over a different world having a different version of a myth then maybe Fate isn't for you.
>>166542625
>You realize how ridiculous it is for someone of Semiramis's fame and stature to realize they are nothing more than a tool to someone else and fall head over heels with that person?
Do you want every Servant to be Gilgamesh? Unlike more than half the Masters in this franchise Shirou actually thought ahead and had his cronies pick Servants that would actually work well together (and Spartacus). It's honour enough to be the defacto leader of a team containing Achilles, the most famous hero of all time and Karna, who was more powerful while he was alive than he is as Servant. If you think that Amakusa didn't have anything but the utmost respect for Semiramis you weren't watching the same show or reading the same LN that I was, he's just pragmatic to the point where his respect of Semiramis doesn't mean he isn't going to manipulate her along with everyone else. She had the best possible treatment a magical familiar could possibly desire, especially when you take her particular circumstances into account. Can you honestly name one Servant that has a better relationship with their Master? Even Shirou's a bigger dick to Saber with the whole "I can't let a girl fight!" bullshit.
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Why is Astolfo still alive?
Why did they even need the war if you could wish something without charging the Grail with servants?
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>>166542979
>If you're going to get mad over a different world having a different version of a myth then maybe Fate isn't for you.
You absolute fucking retard. They didn't change that part of her myth. Besides, this isn't about them changing the myth. It's about them ruining the potential of a character solely to make the plot go as they want it to, which Apocrypha does to every single character in the goddamn series.
>Do you want every Servant to be Gilgamesh?
You can be proud without being autistic about it like Gilgamesh is.
> Unlike more than half the Masters in this franchise Shirou actually thought ahead and had his cronies pick Servants that would actually work well together (and Spartacus).
Every Red team master brought their own catalyst, dumbass, and they're not his cronies. If you'd read the LNs you would know that.
> If you think that Amakusa didn't have anything but the utmost respect...he's just pragmatic to the point where his respect of Semiramis doesn't mean he isn't going to manipulate her along with everyone else.
In other words, it's okay if you treat her like shit as long as you don't mean anything by it? Wow that's amazing!
>She had the best possible treatment a magical familiar could possibly desire, especially when you take her particular circumstances into account. Can you honestly name one Servant that has a better relationship with their Master?
Shirou and Saber, Ilya and Berserker, Medea and Kuzuki, Rider and Sakura, Caules and Frankenstein, Chiron and cripple, Jack and prostitute. Off the top of my head. All of the above have actual reasons to be friends, don't even have to be in love, and act as perfect partners.
>Even Shirou's a bigger dick to Saber with the whole "I can't let a girl fight!" bullshit.
He's only like that in one route. In the other two he's an ideal partner for Saber since they share similar morals and both want the war to end safely for all innocents, and they make for good friends.
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>>166491459
It was a pity kiss because Semiramis is in love with me.
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>>166494626
1. Fate/stay night (2006)
2. Fate/stay night [Unlimited Blade Works] (2014)
3. Fate/stay night [Heaven's Feel] (2017)

After you're done with this, you can go watch Prisma Illya, Zero, Carnival Phantasm, etc.
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>>166497431
I read here some time ago that UTW used a chinese script to work on Apocrypha. That's why they missed lore stuff like Noble Phantasm and Age of Gods.
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>>166543795
Rude. I'll take back what I said before, you have a perfectly good reason to not like what I like that goes beyond "Shirou reminds me of a harem MC."
>Every Red team master brought their own catalyst, dumbass, and they're not his cronies
They were still all under Shirou's supervision as the overseer. Might as well be his cronies.
>Ilya and Berserker, Medea and Kuzuki, Rider and Sakura, Caules and Frankenstein, Chiron and cripple, Jack and prostitute.
I don't particularly think that one character going "awww you poor little puppy dog," is a particularly think relationship.

Out of curiosity, what are you basing your rather assured knowledge of Semiramis on? I'd like to read some more Middle Eastern myths that aren't filtered through Nasu and Higashide.
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>>166512252
She wouldn't. He would treat her as a woman and he'll die.
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>>166540291
How the gosh do you read a fiddle.
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>>166543830
I want to touch those ample breasts.
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>>166543830
You kid yourself. She's in love with me.
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>>166544364
I don't think Semiramis would enjoy being treated as a man.
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>>166533006
wtf is Shirou a cuck?
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>>166520400
left

right is but a pale immitation
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>>166520400
Right. Bigger ears are better.
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>>166494626
See the answers, you dont want to be a stupid fatefag
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>>166543065
I want Caren to step on me.
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>>166545107
>ywn nibble on an evil witches ears
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>>166545453
They are both evil witches though....
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>>166544720
No you don't
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>>166544776
You cucks that's not the way to impress the Empress
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>>166545743
"evil" or evil?
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>>166545845
Cute Evil
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>>166545881
very
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>>166545786
Semiramis wants a partner, an equal, someone who she can lean on and who leans on her. Sometimes she takes the lead, and sometimes her partner does. That's why she gets along so well with Shiro.
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>>166545926
t.non ln reader
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>>166545926
Nah, she's a mad evil cunt and would make a horrible wife. The only reason she was going along with Shiro was that she thought it'd bring her more power. She'd backstab him just like everyone else if it got her ahead.
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“Good grief… truly, those without want are most difficult to deal with. To think he would have no interest in wealth, power, or even a woman.”

Men were mere playthings to Semiramis, the Empress of Assyria. The ones who had been lured by her words and robbed of everything were beyond count. Amidst all of it, she allowed only herself to exist as a ‘woman’. The world needed its fertile wombs to bear the children, of course – but it was her sole province to act as a woman and do as she pleased with any man. From the start, that was the only way for her to survive.

She still remembered the moment shortly after her birth. She could vaguely recall the form of the woman who had abandoned her and hurriedly escaped to the river. It was the fish-goddess Derketo, who had committed adultery with a Syrian man and bore her as a daughter. She had called Semiramis a shame – a humiliation for being the product of a mortal. It was only later in her life that Semiramis realised what a fool her mother had been. After all, Derketo had failed to resist the charms of a mere man.

Semiramis had been left to die by her mother, and her father’s life was ended by the same. However, Derketo had bestowed a single gift upon her – for within Semiramis flowed divine blood. She adapted to the riverside and her cries drew doves who would care for her. Surrounded by endless wings, they came together to keep her warm when she shivered in the cold, and obtained milk from other sources with which to feed her. Those dauntless wings protected her from wind and rain and raised her.

Ten years later, she was discovered by a shepherd and brought into the human world – but her inner nature had already been set. Her foster parent taught her how to perform dances, and to beautify her appearance – but these were merely weapons and techniques by which she would survive in the world.
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>>166546262
All women deserved her hatred – for they were weak and could not help being toyed with by men, and not even goddesses would receive her mercy.

All men deserved her contempt – for they were brutes of primal urges who degrade women, and whose only merit was being made playthings of by her.

That was her philosophy and understanding of the world. In that case, how should she interpret her own Master, Shirou Kotomine – Amakusa Shirou Tokisada?

“Neither a woman nor a man… what a perplexing existence.”

He could not be ensnared by seductive smiles, and swiftly retreated from the allures of authority. Humans beings were creatures of want, yet the boy possessed none for himself – and his desire for the salvation of mankind could hardly be reduced to mere greed. If she were to categorise him, she would place him beyond any doubt among the insane. It was exactly for that reason that Assassin found herself simply enjoying standing by this Master.
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who was the cuter couple, Shirou and Semi or Kuzuki and Medea?
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>>166489626
Now that apocrypha is over, we'll never see her again and she'll slowly fade into obscurity and never be in any form of media again. Truly a shame. She's not even in the awful F/GO.
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>>166546995
What are they all saying?
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>>166547130
I wish I knew.
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https://twitter.com/kusousia/status/947858807647903745
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>>166547071
Super cute, I want my own elf witch.
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>>166547589
original or coke2?
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>>166547101
But her becoming a 5* Servant in FGO will likely boost her popularity up more than the whole Apoc anime.
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>>166547662
All
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>>166547713
>polygamy
Jason leave
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>>166547702
Will that ever happen, though? I feel like if they were going to put her in, they would have done so by now. I hate Grand Order, though, so don't really follow it much.
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>>166548062
They said it in the Apo anime. She's unconventional and hard to use. She needs her castle to even be called a servant.
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>>166548735
So no chance of her in Grand Order? A shame if so.
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>>166548789
I wouldn't say no chance, since it's going pretty out there with Grand Servants and Beasts but it's going to be hard to implement her.
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>>166548062
We don't know. Even Achilles isn't in FGO and he's easy to make gameplay wise.
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>>166549425
What does that even mean? Why would someone look away while calling her name? I don't get it.
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The hard working Queen.
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Imagine if Urobutcher was writing this.
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>>166548735
>When she is obtainable in capsule servant
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>>166549691
Shirou would live long enough to see dragon-transformed-Sieg flying off with the grail. Semi would be too late, and Shiro would die alone in despair knowing his dream had failed. Then Semi would come upon his dead body and freak out because she didn't get to say bye before dying herself. There would be no bittersweet farewell, just despair. Also, Sieg and Jeanne would never have met up again, and Sieg would have become a broken and bitter man. Astolfo would have died pointlessly at some point too.
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>>166549691
Imagine if the the team who wrote HF wrote this

>sieg brutalizes Shirou in front of Semi before impaling both of them with the same sword, their last moments helplessly trying to say something to each other
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>>166547546
>Catholic doing shinto ritual
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Come at him
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Did they change the director at some stage? Episode 22 feels kind of different and strange.
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>>166489626
What was Semi's wish? I forgot.
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Amakusa Shirou is the worst Shirou ever. Not nearly enough sword. As everyone knows, the value of a Shirou is directly proportional to how sword they are.




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