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Why is Rock such scum?
>Strings along and manipulates Revy using her feelings (that he's obviously aware of but does not reciprocate)
>No regards for her physical and mental well-being
>Gets her into completely unnecessary fights
>She gets hurt seriously several times because of his bullshit
>He accomplishes pretty much nothing
>Screws up every time he actually has to do something himself
>Thinks he's playing hero when all he is doing is sitting back and letting others do all the dangerous things
>Acts like he has the moral high ground and treats everyone like they're inferior
>Only time he succeeds is in some ridiculously
stupid and convoluted plan that risks a lot for very little return that would never have worked without massive plot armor (the conclusion of RBT)
He's a complete hypocrite and an abusive bastard, being a manipulator and a good judge of people as he's portrayed he clearly knows how Revy feels, he carefully chose his words during the shower speech in Roberta's Blood trail so he'd not express romantic interest but still keep her on her leash.

Chang and Balalaika are treated like they're double satan but they genuinely care for people other than themselves, while he completely lacks awareness of how much of an abusive egomaniacal narcissist with a Messiah Complex he is.
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>>166536616
Wasn't he a businessman or some shit in nipland? Being a sociopath practically has to be on your resume to do that.
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He's a cowardly beta faggot
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>>166536677
He's like an eunuch version of Itou from School Days.
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>>166536616
That's the only place for his character to go, he's useless in actual combat so his only growth path is to scheme and manipulate his way into becoming the leader of a faction of his own.
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>>166537711
Well, he'd just be pushing his head even deeper into his ass.
Growth would be more like realizing he's a terrible person too for playing with the life of someone that loves him dearly to satisfy his delusions and deciding to grow up, think about what he is going to do and if action is warranted doing it himself.
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>>166536616
So
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>>166536616
To be honest, the crew of the lagoon have pretty much always been literal pirates who get into fights for a living. I don't think they need mama Rock to take care of 'em.
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>>166536616
I've only seen 3 episodes of black lagoon, but this almost sounds like you're talking about something personal. Almost.
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>>166538303
There's only three ways the story could go: he changes the city for the better, he leaves, or he gets corrupted. First option would be some unfitting fairytale bullshit, and the second option has already been explored and shot down before, so...
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>>166536616
I think I have rewatch or read Black Lagoon. I don't remember him nearly as bad. Sure, he's a manipulative fuck by the end, but that's kinda the point of the whole city. Either you go along or you lie dead in the next alley
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>>166538702
I think it's just that I rewatched season 2 of BL right after watching School Days and saw some parallels.Also, I might a bit pissed at Hiroe for dropping this for bloody Re:Creators.

>>166538700
Well, yeah, he's a massive hypocrite, which they are not, but he certainly isn't the pure character he's treated as.
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>>166538977
God, Re:Creators doesn't even feel like it was written by the same guy. I'm more pissed that it was just unbearable to watch.
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>>166538786
I always thought it would end with him participating (but not really being the main actor) in a chain of events that would help "expose Roanapur to the sun" or whichever metaphor they used during Roberta's BT to illustrate external intervention and then he'd run away with Revy in the confusion.
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>>166539073
>>166538977
Fuck you two specifically
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>>166539139
Entitled pricks
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>>166539139
No fuck you, explain to me why Re:Creators is any good.
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>>166539208
Focus on black lagoon you dumb fuck
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>>166539105
Dunno, there's been multiple times where it's been said that neither of them has anywhere else in the world to go and Revy wouldn't want to leave anyway, plus the plot's generally been pretty grim. They could get a happy ending but I wouldn't bet on it.
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>>166539249
we were talking about the writer of Black lagoon shithead
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>>166539262
>Revy wouldn't want to leave anyway
I thought it was that deep down she'd like to leave but feels she can't.
But I don't think a happy ending would go against Black Lagoon, the arcs generally have happy endings, Twins and Japan arcs being the exceptions, and Twins was hopeless from the start.
Black Lagoon is a lot more light hearted than people usually give it credit for.
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>>166539139
Seriously, can you talk a bit on why you think we're wrong?
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I dunno whether Rock is just using Revy but he's going to end up as crazy as Mikado in Durarara, its inevitable at this point. He's been losing his idealism with every chapter and the only reason he got involved in RBT was because Chang manipulated him.
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>>166537711
>>166536616
>Our sacrificed employee accidentally started a Yakuza-organization in Not-Bangkok.
The Anime also nicely sent those Yakuza off to Not-Bangkok (which was stupid).
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>>166538786
Well. He had to option to stay at home. Didn't he.

So by laws of (American?) Drama he's fucked.
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>>166539262
>Revy wouldn't want to leave anyway
He could make her leave with him.

Then he just has to keep her busy by having her pop out one kid after another so that she doesn't have time to think about all those gun-fights.
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>>166539499
What about RBT? Roberta accomplished fucking nothing and wound up a mangled mess. I mean it's a happy ending in the sense that she could be dead, but it's not exactly the bright and cheery kind of happy end.
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>>166539982
He helped Garcia bring her back home alive, which was his intention, Roberta was raving mad from before Rasta Blasta, in the manga I think she wasn't even physically hurt. Even in the anime Rock was pretty satisfied with saving her and says so.
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>>166540227
>in the manga I think she wasn't even physically hurt
Did you read the volume-only epilogue of Vol9?
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>>166540562
Nope.
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>>166540594
You should.
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>>166540642
I looked but didn't find it. Is the conversation between Rock and Chang by any chance?
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>>166539533
Rock is basically what Mikado would have grown up to be if it weren't for the internet allowing him t found the Dollars.
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>>166536616
Tldr

Revy is CUTE!
She's too good for rock.
He can have Eda.
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>>166541697
Eda's too good for Rock, he can have Dutch.
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>>166536616
I kinda wish I never started reading Black Lagoon so I wouldn't have the need to sad that it's probably never get finished.
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>>166540721
Before the Arc with the Chinese chick starts at the end of volume 9.
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>>166542152
Sorry, I didn't find it, what was it about?
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>>166536616
Been a while since ive watched but wasnt everyone in this show pretty much scum?
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>>166536616
Translations fucking when I need to see my waifu out of jail
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>>166543889
yep, they are actual pirates, and not some robin hood types but legit criminal scum
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>>166544921
Except they are likeable. Most of the "Good guys" are not exactly worth rooting for
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>>166539208
Altair was cool.
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>>166543889
Yeah, but they keep pointing how Rock is an outsider that still hasn't been corrupted and that sort of thing when in fact he's just as bad as everyone else (and I'd argue in fact worse than many of the regular character in the show), except he doesn't own up to it.
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>>166536677
He has something most people in that shithole don’t have, smarts and wits. To the point where Balalaika says if he wanted, he could be villain.
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>>166547374
>they

Honestly, only Revy has held him to that standard. As seen in the most recent arc where she is helping him with the chink girl. Funny thing is, the chink girl is actually pushing Rock to sorta embrace living on the edge. And it’s not that he needs to own up to it, he had the best intentions but the end to RBT was the best possible outcome even if he became hated.
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>>166547374
Pretty sure he owns up to it at the end of RBT, in fact it's Revy who points it out.
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>>166547655
Revy wants her husbando to remain pure.
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New English volume when?

New Madhouse OVA when?

New figure when?
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>>166547981
Never, never and never.
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>>166549039
why do you do this to us hiroe
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>>166536616

Rock's plot armor is unbeatable.




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