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What was the naruto shitposting onhere like when it actually was still an okay series
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I sell my soul to Moloch, the pagan god of child sacrifice, to curse everyone who replies to this thread to have their (potential) future offspring be born deformed or die early, pathetic deaths.
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Derailing threads with gets
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>>166558558
>when it actually was still an okay series
it never was
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>>166558704
I have yet to find a shonen that rivals early Naruto/Bleach
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>>166558558
Naruto discussions used to be banned on sight, good times.
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>>166558726
I can honestly say I couldn't get into either of those. Though most people can so I'm not saying their bad.
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cancer, just like boruto thread are right now
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>>166558726
Jojo is the only series on par(for me better) than the original naruto series.
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Naruto was actually banned through most of its good/decent content. The ban only got lifted as it was about to end. I still don't get why this show wasn't allowed but Bleach and One Piece were.
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>>166558726
One Piece, Hunter x Hunter, JoJo and even BnHA sometimes are better.
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>>166559109
/a/ loved the rule of cool and ridiculousness of Bleach, along with Kubo himself. It was basically meme’d to death, for lack of better words. Naruto had a much heavier stigma around it, and One Piece wasn’t as huge in the west back then, nor was it even bad.
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>>166559105
maybe but it gets thematically weird so fast. Like eating bugs weird. Some folks will find the bizarre appaling but with Naruto Bleach you know what'ya got
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>>166559105
I also enjoy Jojo a lot. (at least the parts I've seen)

>>166559111
One Piece is a parody, not a shonen. HxH is more dialogue heavy and while I don't dislike HxH, I think it's important to be visually pleasing.

>bnha
I sincerely doubt it.

>>166558971
That sucks. Hope you find things to enjoy though.

>>166559370
Yugioh is also great. Fuck.
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>>166558558
I'll never understand why Naruto continued after Pain. The leader of the main antagonistic force throughout the series was dead. I guess Tobi was still around, but it was just poor planning on Kishimoto's part.
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>>166558726
Jesus fuck are you kidding me?
Read something good like Shaman King you dumb millennial
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>>166559606
money
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>>166559616
First volume of Shaman King is fine. Read up to volume 7 and just got bored. Anime I've rated a 4/10. Bleach and Naruto are just solid dude. Why can't you deal with that?
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>>166559109
The fanbase really is an issue.
It was easier to just ban it than having to deal with them every single day.

Follow the Boruto threads if you want a small glimpse of what it was like to deal with that fanbase.
Mods already gave up on moderating Boruto threads even though it isn't even close to what the Naruto fanbase was at its peak
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Naruto is a gateway anime of the worst kind. It's a bad series, a clusterfuck of story and characterization that isn't very well done by any aspect, but which attempts to compensate for its weaknesses by adding in excessive shipping faggotry and DARKNESS. The normal anon can see this as the shit it is, and may enjoy it, hate it or be indifferent to it, but all the while recognizing that the series itself, regardless of their opinion, is plain bad.

However, these very aspects that try to smear over the shit of its core make it a breeding ground for aspie, unsociable underageb& faggots who engage in every kind of faggotry both online and in the real world. The superpowered characters all trying their hardest to look cool, the jutsus, peculiar, colorful clothes, the whole ninja faggotry and everything about the Naruto world fuels their escapist fantasies, while the pity-party character backgrounds, emphasis on revenge, and overall preachiness of the series make it fit just right with the mary-sueish drives of your average preteen and his sense of unwarranted self-importance towards the world. Exactly the kind of shit that makes little kiddies and underageb& retards eat this shit right the fuck up.

Naruto is basically THE series to attract the most hated anime fanbase known to /a/, which is why, regardless of individual opinions, it is the responsibility of every anon to troll the fuck out of this show and everyone who likes it, and ensure that no Naruto threads ever encourage the newfriends to show their faces here.
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>>166559616
Shaman King is only a little older than Naruto and Bleach.
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>>166559401
>One Piece is a parody, not a shonen

Have you actually watched One Piece?
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>>166558736
I want to go back to those times.
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Naruto threads were banned for years back when mods still gave a shit about /a/.
My question is do you believe the resurgence of naruto and other shonen shit like it has anything to do with the decline in activity on /a/ or is it simply a coincidence?
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>>166559728
No I haven't watched a Toei anime. You read the manga. Toei has to be the most cancerous studio on earth.
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>>166559606
just like one piece the series got too popular so the author stopped trying being competetive and went milk mod

god I remember Jiraya vs pain so fucking good but no discussion thread allowed the mods feared the normies shitting up the board culture.
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>>166559606
I honestly think you're full of shit. Pain was never the big boss and anyone who's not retarded can see that.

What sense would it make if the series ended there?
The Akatsuki wasn't even in the first part of the manga so I don't get what you mean with the "main antagonistic force throughout the series". The whole Sasuke shit would remain unresolved and so would the backstory of the tailed beasts and whatever.

It's hilarious that you Narutofags created this theory about how Naruto was great and that only the stuff after the Pain arc was bad when Naruto was always fucking bad.
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>>166559709
I can only speak from my own experience, but I liked it from when I was about 11 until around 14. In that sense, it was exactly what a shounen should be. Something that appealed to a young boy. However, my disdain for everything after Pain has left me hesitant to revisit it, so I'm not sure if it would live up to my standards now.
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>>166559658
>I've rated
>>>/MAL/
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It was your average cancerous shonen thread. However, I would say that shitposting got amped up after Sasuke vs Deidara.
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>>166559788
One Piece is miles above the competition

>>166559846
So you don't actually want to discuss anything I've said.
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>>166559720
That's neither here nor there
It's only millennials whose first manga/anime were Naruto or Bleach and it's only them who think these series are good
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>>166558558
>/a/ is now defending naruto
>people unironically sayimg theres no better shounen than the big 3
The gateway anime copypasta was right all along
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>>166559907
Who are you quoting?
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>>166559401
>One Piece is a parody
I'd love to hear how. Hunter x Hunter and BnHA are closer to parody, if anything. One Piece in my opinion is the perfect shounen. It's basically every arc of Dragon Ball done at the same time.
>it's important to be visually pleasing
That's fair.
>I sincerely doubt it.
BnHA is probably the most visually pleasing of any battle shounen. Some people like to say Naruto is basically the quintessential (or generic) battle shounen, while Hunter x Hunter is a deconstruction. If you think that holds water, then BnHA is basically the celebratory return of battle shounen. If Naruto is Gundam (this is a stretch, bear with me) and Hunter x Hunter is NGE, then BnHA is TTGL. Almost everything in BnHA is taken from past battle shounen, especially Naruto, and it often subverts it. If Naruto focused on Rock Lee, the villains had their sympathetic motivations removed, the comedy was written by a human being, and the art style was ten times more endearing, it'd basically be BnHA. The biggest problem with BnHA is its meandering plot.
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>>166559897
No, cause you gave shit taste.
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>>166559773
It's the same goddamn shit. The content isn't all that different apart from fillers and slow ass pacing.
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>>166559788
>the mods feared the normies shitting up the board culture.
Guess what
They were right
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>>166559907
No one is defending Naruto besides some of the Narutards in this thread.

OP is the Naruto spammer who has been spamming threads since yesterday.
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>>166559897
Go back to >>>/MAL/
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>>166559926
This guy
>>166558726
>have yet to find a shonen that rivals early Naruto/Bleach
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>>166559930
>I'd love to hear how
Read it. It might take you a couple of reads to get to the point where you realize it's a parody because it does it really well. But it is, foremost, a parody or deconstruction of the shonen genre.

>>166559940
>it's the same damn shit
Nobody recommends the One Piece anime for a reason anon. It's not the same shit. Looks like some levelzero directors at Toei placed some sad music over a parody scene. That's not in the manga you know.

>>166559938
Still better than not contributing.

>>166560003
I said neither of those things.
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>>166559821
The Akatsuki were set up in the first half and were the main antagonists throughout the second half up until Pain's death. I mean, who else took the role of the big bad up until that point? Orochimaru didn't exactly amount to much.
The Akatsuki were hunting down the tailed beasts - the most powerful beings in the series - and succeeding. There was no bigger threat than them.
Also, obviously Naruto would get Sasuke back, but the reason why I said it should've ended at Pain (or slightly after due to the Sasuke situation) is because Naruto had become the saviour of the village. He had all right to be Hokage, or to be directly inducted to become Hokage after the correct training for the role.
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The only time naruto was ever "good" was up until chuinin exam, after that it went to trash quickly.
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>>166559907
I thought /a/ always agreed that the first arc of Naruto was good.
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>>166559959
Yeah and now there's dragonball threads 24/7.
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>>166559788
One Piece continued because Oda enjoys writing it.
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>>166559821
I tend to agree with this.

I think Kishimoto didn't want to or just didn't have it anymore after the break between pre timeskip and shippuuden. Shippuuden is way more hit and miss than the original. I think he should've kept things much more focused. Keep it tight. ust explore the paths Naruto and Sasuke chose and where it led them and have Akatsuki be the conduit to have stuff happen when it needs to. Also Akatsuki became too x-men-y. I get they're supposed to be misfits with unique and powerful abilities but some were just dumb. Actually most of them.

We still got some great moments anyway so who cares I guess.
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>>166560169
It’s also impossible to drive these people away with self moderation since you’d get banned by the current mods.
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>>166560019
Well, I have read One Piece and I love it. I'm not really interested in reading 900 chapters multiple times, however, so really it'd just be better for you to elaborate.
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>>166559897
It was good but now I rate Bleach above One Piece. Too many save the kingdoms in a row. Half the manga has become luffy only doing dumb shit. Sabo. The rest is strawhats racing on a brownbeard kingbaum or teapot. Running to a base running out of a base. Running away from gas. Its like Oda forgot how todo concentrated story telling and relies on switching between scenerie for he may gets his 16 pages filled. Last chapter was a bit back to the roots thou
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>>166559897
>One Piece is miles above the competition

Why do people always like to pretend one piece is somehow any better than Naruto or any other dumb shonen? One piece is ust as stupid and drawn out as every other of its ilk.

I swer to god this faggotry of propping up everything else ust because you want to put somthing down is fucking annoying
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>>166559702
They can't be worse than current super threads, r-right?
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>>166560407
If you love it one day you will reread it and come to the realization. The realization is a moment in your life I don't want to take away from you.

>>166560420
Because naruto has lower lows. One Piece is more consistent. I really don't care all that much though because I enjoy both.
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>>166560420
>drawn out
Not an argument. They're supposed to be drawn out: they're action serials. It's not about the plot. Judging an action serial for being drawn out is like judging a comedy for having shitty art.
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>>166560420
It never went against its initial themes. It never went out of control with ridiculous villains with questionable motifs. It also actually has world building
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>>166560420
One Piece has never lost focus unlike Naruto. By the half way point of the series, we understand the tiers and hierarchy of characters and their place in the world, and in the second half it's been pay off. One Piece called still turn to garbage, but so far it's been pretty great.
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>>166560420
One piece is a half decent battle shounen with actual ADVENTURE. Naruto didn’t even know what it wanted to be.
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>>166560511
>Not an argument.

Just kys m. no one gives a shit about your approval of an argument. OP is just as shallow and bad as every other shonen and only people who watched it when they were the right age like it, like every other shonen. All of these shows are obectively trash for teenagers and if you are now trying to argue it is a quality show as an adult you're a moron so stick your stupid opinion up your ass.
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>people who hate on Naruto but love Shaman King
No wonder their taste is so shit.
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>>166560815
>gets proven wrong
>starts crying
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>>166560947
M8, You are still watching cartoons written for 12yo as an adult (I assume). Your taste holds no value.
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>>166560612
This. Honestly, I've never even cared for many of the fights in One Piece, it's the world building, the story and the characters that have kept me hooked.
>>166560815
I started on One Piece with the 4kids dub when I was a kid, but I didn't get back round to it again when I was 19. Before getting back to it again, I assumed it was going to be a dumb drawn out story of self contained adventures that was only being written for money. I was glad to be proven wrong. Maybe if you actually read it you'd realise the same thing.
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>>166560888
Other places must have better taste then.
I suggest you go there.
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>>166561015
I'm so sorry, anon. I have to do this. Luffy finds One Piece and becomes Pirate King. YOU MAY HATE ME, BUT YOU CAN REST EASY NOW!

You may now return to your mature cartoons.
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When are people here going to grow up and stop being contrarians?

Also anything naruto is better than shit from fate for example
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>>166561093
>Maybe if you actually read it you'd realise the same thing.

I did. I wanted to gauge my eyes out. And just to be clear, I tried rewatching Naruto again as an adult and I couldn't do it either. HxH the same thing. I can only either watch clips of stuff liked as a kid that are the coolest parts because you don't have to deal with all the dumb dialogue and supidity of the characters or stuff like Air Gear which is so bad I can be mildly entertained at how horrible it is.
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>>166561185
>not realising it's about the journey
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>make thread about mid era naruto
>muh one masterpiecelers have to derail
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>>166561272
So what was the issue with it?
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>>166561093
>Before getting back to it again, I assumed it was going to be a dumb drawn out story of self contained adventures that was only being written for money.

The irony
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>>166561272
Alright buddy, what are your favourite anime?
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>>166561185
You are just spouting drivel at this point. I don't even know what the fucking point of your post is. I'm not even against watching dumb stuff you liked as a kid to indulge your nostalgia, I totally get that, but don't try to argue it is actually a good sho because it isn't. Pointing out NAruto is garbage is so stupid it doesn't even make sense. No shit it's garbage, but so is your favorite shonen, because they all are. Now go watch your dumb shonen and enjoy it and I'll do the same.
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>>166560243
>One Piece continued because Oda is milking the manga like he's milking Nami's tits
Where the fuck have you been?
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>>166561341
Oda has said he's trying to work through the series as quickly as possible to finish it before he dies. He said he's been combining ideas for separate islands into each island since the new world (Punk Hazard being both fire and ice, Dressrosa having a dwarf civilisation, talking toys and Spanish architecture).
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>>166559109
Because Naruto was popular. 4chan is contrarian central.
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>>166561306
I mean I tried to discuss Naruto as well. I stand by it being good up until Pain's defeat.
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>>166561313
With One Piece? It's just not for me anymore. I'm not trying to sound arrogant or anything but it's the truth. The characters are way too one note the dialogue is dumb and blunt. There's nothing there other than what's going on at the surface level. Those aren't necessarily bad things for what it is trying to be, which is trash entertainment for kids. Kids don't care about any of that stuff like I didn't when I started watching Naruto. I'm just not that person anymore. I'm sure if I happened to watch OP instead of Naruto at the time I would feel for it ust as much as I feel for Naruto. I'm not trying to put down OP or anything, I'm ust trying to keep it on its' place before you faggots get all high and mighty.

>>166561349
I'm not getting into this dumb tangent 'cause that's not even the point
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>>166560420
The reason why is because One Piece is irrelevant in the west and was discarded very early. Objectively, One Piece is on par with Fairy Tail, except with uglier girls.

Autistic weebs om /a/ hate everything the west likes and vice versa.
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>>166561583
I only asked for your favourites because you came across as pretentious as fuck and wanted to see what you were comparing them against.
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>>166559109
Agreed, One Piece fags should be permabanned with no warning like the furpocalypse.
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>>166561583
Does a series need to have deeper subtext and implications to be great? It's an extremely creative adventure series with an extremely large cast of characters that are mostly likeable and it's kept a pretty consistent quality for 890 chapters. I feel like that alone should be applauded.
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>>166561603
One Piece was discarded early in the west because of the awful 4kids version. Only kids gave a damn about it.
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>>166561272
>watching Toei anime
When will they learn?
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Can someone tell my One Piece is better than Naruto?

>art
naruto has better
>designs
naruto has better designs(and doesn't go overboard with them)
>Characters
Characters in naruto stick around,they are not pokemons that you see for an arc and then leave them behind forever
>Soundtrack
The naruto anime has better soundtrack
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>>166561768
And because of Toei in general.

>>166561802
read the manga, christ.
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>>166558610
I don't think so.
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>>166561802
But One Piece characters often come back when it's beneficial to the story or makes sense. I'm not sure if this is bait, but most characters became irrelevant in the second half of Naruto, and it was even worse during the war.
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>>166561649
I know and that's why I don't want to get into it because it will further derail the discussion and not go anywhere. I'm not being pretentious, I'm really not. I may not enoy watching naruto anymore but I enoy the memories I have of it and indulging in reminiscing about it from time to time, hence why I'm in this thread. That being said I can see it for what it is. You guys are the ones that seem to want it both ways. You want to trash Naruto because it is garbage (which it is) but then you also want to argue One Piece is this great show that is so much better and whatever the fuck you guys think of it when I've seen enough of it to know that it's just as retarded as any other shonen.

>>166561693
You can applaud it if it makes you feel any better. I don't see why not fucking something up for 2 years is worthy of praise if It's not something I like.

And just for the record. It is impossible to tell a good story in 900 chapters.
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>>166559930
>One Piece in my opinion is the perfect shounen.
Fucking this. I have yet to come across a shounen that is even half as impressive in terms of world building and character progression. It's arguably the most consistent manga ever, still managing to be engrossing and thought-out despite running on for nearly 20 years, and it's still getting better. Oda is really just that good.
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>>166561952
>It is impossible to tell a good story in X chapters
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>>166561898
Villains dont die no suspense bigmum is jumping on the ship and I yawn
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>>166561250
>narutard telling anyone to 'grow up'

This place shoulve burned to the ground a long time ago.
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>>166561802
>Can someone tell why One Piece is better than Naruto?

It isn't.
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>>166561952
>not fucking up something for 2 years is worthy of praise
It's been over 20 years of quality.
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>>166558558
It was really bad, once the show itself actually started turning bad people who were sort of on the fence went away to other stuff.
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This thread needs moar kimimaro


heres your shitpost
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>>166561898
No?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaU0rAzA0dg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cfhZKPfbiQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7il6mdfB9o8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU0ytJatL2k
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>>166561957
[LOUD GARGLING SOUNDS]

>>166561985
Wow, you can repeat somthing I wrote. Thanks, I guess?
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>>166561250
Naruto and Fate are pretty much on the same level, although the fatefags do act more high and mighty about their powerlevel shit for whatever reason
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>>166561996
>villains not being killed is apparently a problem
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>>166562033
based ratface

>>166562071
Type English.
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>>166562010
>not liking naruto
>fedora pic

/b/ is right over there
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>>166561952
>It is impossible to tell a good story in 900 chapters.
Further proof that you haven't actually read One Piece. Just stop posting already, you cum guzzling piece of shit.
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>>166562095
What do you mean by powerlevel shit
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>>166562095
Just like One Piece and Fairy Tail are on the same level, except:

1) Fairy Tail knew when to stop
2) One Piece girls can't even compete
3) Fairy Tail has objectively better music
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>>166562019
Except it is, narutard.
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>>166562035
>bringing characters back to life to give other characters something to do
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>>166562145
Of course I haven't. Why are you still reading it? It is not meant to be read by people over 16.
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>>166562176
>One Piece and Fairy Tail are on the same level
>Fairy Tail
>not a vastly inferior rip-off of the former
That's some really poor bait.
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>>166562234
Your loss. You're missing out one of the best and most consistent manga out there. Just because it's for kids it doesn't mean it isn't great.
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How can other shonen even compete?
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>>166562187
Be careful, anon

Some of us might come into your basement at night and use your shower to clean the cheesy yeast out of our fat rolls.
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naruto has this soundtrack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCUNtCV4gQk

one piece,HxH,fairy tail,bleach have what?
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>>166562240
>Fairy Tail
>ripping off One Piece

The fanboyism and delusion of Odafags knows no bounds.
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>>166562284
Hmm, One Piece?
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>>166562325
lmao, good joke
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>>166562315
Just google it and you'll see it's true.
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>>166562274
>Just because it's for kids it doesn't mean it isn't great.

I agree. Once in a while is nice to sit and just watch or read something simple and straightforward dumb fun. But to devote the titanic amounts of time to read and follow this almost biblical size adventure that amounts to nothing deeper than a random epiode of DBZ is ridiculous for a grown man to do.
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>>166560414
>Bleach above One Piece
You fucked up
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>>166562398
>DBZ episode
Stop watching Toei anime.
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>>166561015
>Uses a retarded fallacy
Kys faggot
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>>166562400
Bleach had one good arc (Soul Society).
Naruto had one good arc (Kakuzu/Hidan).
One Piece had zero good arcs. Ennies Lobby is trash.
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>>166562398
>being invested in the adventures of a loveable cast of characters in an incredibly well realised and fleshed out world full of mystery is ridiculous
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>>166562019
It is
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>>166562447
Are you the fucking idiot constantly making petty remarks no one gives a fuck on all my posts?

Yes we know about the fallacies, we've all been to philosphy classes in high school. Congratulatioins retard, now fuck off with your worthless post that add nothing to the conversation you empty headed moron.
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>>166562521
Why is every One Piece arc bad?
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>>166562521
WRONG
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>>166562550
buddy, OP is trash. You are wasting your best years reading shit. Open your fucking eyes my man.

You liked it as a kid and now you cling to it because you like the feelings it brings back, I get it, but you need to let that shit go.
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>>166562521
Naruto shippuden has 2 great arcs

Hidan/Kakuzu and Pain arcs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV9zXO_LqoY
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>>166562569
How about you stop using fallacies then, you retarded ass nigger? Why get butthurt enough to argue like that instead of debating like an adult? Otherwise shut your mouth, kid
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@one peace guy
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>>166562667
cringy af
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>>166562658
Damn,that is a good fucking opening.
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>>166562705
He's the most brilliant and accurate portrayal of a One Piece fag.
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>>166562658
Sasuke retrieval
Zabuza
chuunin exams
i kinda liked the deidara arc because gaara and narutos interactions where so cute
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>>166562723
Troll
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>>166562656
I didn't give it a proper chance until I was 19.
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>>166562705
>believe in me who believes in you who believes in the onepiece
i wish we had a more devoted naruto abridged team like TFS
inb4 >TFS
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>>166562796
Shit, that's even worse. I guess there's no hope for you. Enjoy it I guess.
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>contrarian fags still won't admit it was good up until a certain point years after its ended
>contrarian fags are adamant that all shounen are garbage because normies like them

when will you guys give it a rest?
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4-5 years ago naruto threads used to get deleted. bleach threads, while not deleted, had half the thread consist of flaring and accusing the OP of baiting. /a/ was very aggressive towards these 2 titles, but lost the war in the end. i never had anything against the 2, im just telling you what i witnessed
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>>166558726
I bet this nigger thinks re:zero, SAO and fairy tail are the best things ever too.
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>>166562931
This is fake.There were always naruto generals,what was deleted was people making more than 1 naruto thread which were always full either with shitposting or actual discussion
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>>166562943
What compelled you to make this post? At worst you're wrong and at best you made a single guess. There's zero discussion value to it though.

Fairy Tail is great dubbed. Makes the jokes actually funny.
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>>166562875
I will, because it's a well written series crafted with love.
>>166562923
I'll stand by Naruto being solid up until a point.
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>>166563005
I guess the /a/ really does stand for autism. Sucks to be you.
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>>166562989
No there fucking weren't we dubspammed every thread, we got lenient because Naruto was ending and that turned out to be a giant mistake. Now we got these faggots rooted in the board.
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>>166563321
Stay mad moecuck
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best opening/ending ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbdt5_QAoJo
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Which shonnen has the best fighting scenes ? no mindless screaming to power up trope,Dragon Ball Z was genre defining but it really lacks in fighting when it comes to other shonen
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>>166562284
Do you seriously think one good arc is enough for competition? Call me back when another boring exposition arc is actually finished.
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>>166562658
the series ended for me here.
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>>166562521
wow edgelord, sorry not every series can be a berserking jojo to you
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>>166563187
What compelled you to make this post? At worst you're wrong and at best you made a single guess. There's zero discussion value to it though.
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>>166563363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op0uloAV0wY
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>>166563679
Naruto,which is funny desu
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>>166562284
Too much filler and drags things out for far too long.
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>>166559901
>millennials don't know about shaman king
you don't know what a millenial is do you?
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>>166564640
Just ignore the autist
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>>166563679
Boruto, unironically. Naruto had great fights too, like Kakashi vs. Obito, but tailed beasts and summons destroyed any chance of good fight choreographies.

No shonen anime has better fights than ATLA though. They actually took their time to bring a sifu of a different martial art for every bending type. Meanwhile, Japanese cartoons are just atatatatata (One Piss included) and energy beam struggles.
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