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Reminder that Ichigo is the Jorōgumo:

In the bathroom scene where Hiro washes his face, the butterfly that he notices is trapped and cannot fly. Since episode 1 and all throughout each subsequent one, we know that the ability to "fly" (to ride a FranXX) is what separates the "living" from the "dead" in DITF's world, or at least the world as seen through Hiro's eyes. In Hiro's first scene in the anime, for example, he notices a bird that flies into the canopy of the nest, injures itself and dies. That is part of the same motif.

It stands to reason then, that the spider's web represents the "bird cage" (that is what, ironically, the parasites call their home), which Hiro needs to escape. From episode 1 through episode 3, Hiro grows increasingly aware that he is living in a trap, episode 3 ending with his realisation that riding Strelizia together with 002 is his only chance to escape. Strelizia is the only FranXX he can use, and Hiro is the only stamen with whom 002 can ride without killing it in the process. Episode 3 also revealed that 002 wants to escape from the plantation(s) which she compares to graves, something that reinforces the association of the spider's web with the "bird's cage".
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>>168467041
And this is where Ichigo comes in. Of all the characters, she is the one who is trying the hardest to integrate Hiro back into the nest. In episode 1 it is revealed that she doesn't much care whether Hiro can "fly" or not, as long as he stays there (with her). That is her primary goal: not having Hiro grow into his own (and potentially away from her), but him staying close to her, whether he can ride a FranXX or not. Which is why she constantly gets between Hiro and 002 (i.e. Hiro's "wings", his other Jian bird half). Ichigo is the leader of the P13 parasites, and the "queen" of the nest (which 002 remarks upon in episode 5). She is the conduit of the system. Nana only uses her as an intermediary to convey orders to the kids, for example. And it doesn't stop here. Ichigo's FranXX unit, Delphinium, is named after a genus of perennial flowering plants all of which are toxic to humans and livestock. How do spiders kill and consume their prey? With poison.

Henceforth, Ichigo's attempts to sabotage Hiro's relationship with 002 will escalate gradually. Of course, she will fail every time, just as she has failed thus far.
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>>168467041
A thread died for pastas. wew. how does /a/ do it?
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>>168467041
I don’t think they thought that deep with one scene. If anything it was a misdirect to cause brainlets to go on a surge of these speculations.
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>>168467167
This isn't pasta.
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>spiders
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>>168467041
End game in 19 weeks
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>>168467169
It's both. It is easy to assume that the spider represents 02 if you treat episode 5 (and that scene in particular) in isolation from the rest of the story so far. 02 being a Jorougumo is the superficial interpretation of the scene, while Ichigo being the Jorougumo is the hidden truth behind it.
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>>168467253
>wojackposting
Literally worse than anything else, kill yourself retard
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hmm
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>>168467375
The fact that the 4-kima parodies the idea that 02 is the spider makes the red-herring even more obvious. I think the staff failed with this one, because they gave it away too soon. They should have kept quiet about it and leave it amiguous for a while (at least until episode 6).

The fact that they parodied the 02-spider relation kills the tension.
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>still thinking Ichigo is the spider
you should have to take an IQ test before being allowed to post.
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>>168467169
>they didn't intend this symbolism, they just included it so others would interpret it as such
Really jogs my noggin

>>168467320
02 is actually the butterfly, as Ichigo catches her at her weakest later in the same episode, the same in which she moves into the parasite dorm (caught in the web)
Hiro is just a caterpillar at this point
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>>168467253
>feels guy
>>>/reddit/
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>spiderposting
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>>168467507
I did the WAIS IV and got 147. I also have a degree in mathematics. What are your credentials faggot?
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>>168467551
no it's Hiro
>>168419669
>>168420143
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Ichigo is Hiro's twin sister
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>>168467667
how do people find this shit honestly
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>>168467646
You're probably autistic, that's where your complete lack of understanding of analogies and human interactions comes from
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>>168467734
Posting this like Incest matters?
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>>168467712
That's pretty close.
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>>168467752
Make your case.
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>>168467507
wait what the fuck was that shadow always there?
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>>168467910
It's an old promotional poster for the anime that the staff discarded.
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>>168467946
>the staff discarded.
[citation needed]
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>>168467041
>>168467063
I didn't think /a/ would be attached to one scene from the perspective of one character.
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>>168467507
Zero Two isn't the spider either though. Also, you're a faker going by that file name.
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>>168468157
If you pay attention the title say Darling in FrankXX instead of FranXX.
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>>168468232
It's the meme of the week.
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>>168468276
>you're a faker going by that file name.
??????
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>>168468145
I mean what did you expect? As soon as it was nearly 5PM EST, the Ichigofag shitposting started which is after schoolwork. Everything was fine earlier in the day 2 threads before.
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>>168468232
Hiro is not just the MC, but he is the only character in that scene. From which other character's perspective do you think it should be interpreted from?
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>>168467253
Are you feeling alright friend?
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>>168468319
That's what I'm saying. From Hiro's.
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>>168467910
yeah
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>>168468341
Fuck off to /pol/
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>>168467253
>ichigofags are this mad
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>>168468352
But this interpretation is from Hiro's perspective.
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>>168468281
>FrankXX
Holy shit don't tell me Karling in the Franks shitposting actually has credibility.
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>>168468145
It’s SEAniggers and abboalians, they are considered subhumans for a reason.
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>>168468392
mad burger detected
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>>168467041
You can still make the case that the spider is 02 based on the perception of her, rather than her true character. Everyone who looks at her sees a stamen-devouring monster. Even Hiro isn't blind to her reputation. However, he's able to see past that and treat her as human nonetheless and embrace her as his partner.
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>>168468295
denyrealityharderanon.
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>>168468281
>>168468418
Yeah the show was originally called Frankxx. It was changed (I assume because it sounds better.)
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>>168468405
I know. I'm saying it goes quite far when I think it's pretty simple.
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>>168468461
I agree.
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>>168468463
what??? what the fuck???
>>168468511
yeah I agree even though they used the specific spider and butterfly that perfectly represent characters, it's obviously a much simpler thing.
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>>168468511
>>168468559
You're one of those faggots who are dying a little inside whenever people point out that Franxx isn't just about butts and sex aren't you?
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>>168467897
You just got fucking rekt son hahahha.
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>>168468461
I don't think it was ever putting her in a malicious way. It was just a sea of shitposts.
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>>168468618
I agree though. It's obviously much deeper than that.
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>>168468618
What?? No.
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>>168468679
do you know what The Jurogumo represents in myth?
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>>168468757
Yes anon. I don't think Zero Two fits due to several things in story and some even mentioned by APE is all.
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>>168467506
The spider conflicts with pretty much all other 02 plot points and symbols anyway, it never had any solid ground to stand on from the beginning.
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>>168467253
this
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>>168467167
autism
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>>168468757
It makes more sense that the joro is ichigo
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>>168468461
Instead of creating too tension around Hiro, since anyone with a brain can see that he isn't dying in the next episode, they choose to create tension by making 02 appears as dubious as possible, so in the next episode they could confirm if she's evil or is just being misunderstood. We most likely going to see some flashback about her past in next episode so they can show to us how she felt about her partners dying.
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>>168468826
no but that's certainly malicious if you do think it is
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>>168468402
>implying there are ichigofags
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>>168468940
>We most likely going to see some flashback about her past in next episode
I very much doubt that.
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>>168469000
They exist, but they congregate on other sites mostly. Usually, the more people like Ichigo, the less they think of DITF.
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The best cosplay I've seen so far
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Can we stop talking about this fucking spider already
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02 is really cute.
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>>168469221
N A M E
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I don't think the spider is meant to be any great symbolism. It is just something to make you feel anxious about Hiro's situation. Obviously they are wanting you to doubt 002 right now and are playing that up for the big moment to come. It's not like the bird story from ep 1 where it's some overriding symbol that defines the entire 002/Hiro relationship.
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>>168469283
No. People need to learn that 002 is not the spider.
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>>168469221
>3DPD
>spic
Kill yourself
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>>168469045
They don't need to gave any important info, jut show how she felt about them dying and how she doesn't want to be alone.
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>>168469405
But anon, the spider is you.
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>>168469397
You're selling the scene short. It wouldn't have caused such a ruckus if it was just that.
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>>168467041
The hell?
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>>168469420
The episode is directed by Akira Amemiya.
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>>168467041
>>168467063
So if you look at the scene as if it was just normal spider it's Ichigo but if you use the mythology Joro then it's 02?
deep
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What if Hiro's the flower and not 02
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>>168469715
The mecha is the flower not 02
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>>168469484
It caused a ruckus because we are seizing on anything and subjecting it to absurd levels of interpretation. The purpose of the spider is simply to build apprehension in the viewer about 02/Hiro so when it gets BTFO in the next episode the feeling of emotional release will be stronger.

Hiro himself barely even reacts to the spider. He sees for a few seconds and that's it. Compare this to the bird where we get multiple bird monologues from 02 and Hiro, Hiro explicitly comparing himself to a bird that can't fly, a bird taking off the moment 02 pushing him down and licking him, etc. There's just no comparison.

The spider will be forgotten after next episode, I assure you. And there will be some new symbol for us to obsess over.
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>>168469678
Nice reading comprehension anon.
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>>168469397
0ni can still be in love, but the more information is given the more you have to believe that this is happening Just According to Keikaku
There is definitely no way 0ni didn't know about Hiro before 0ni, Dr F, and Nana got to plantation 13.
>Why was she sent to that plantation anyway?
>What else do the other plantation kids know
Gotta set sail for the Frontline
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The official skit confirms 002 is spider and Hiro is moth. Time to let it rest.
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Who is going to die?
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>>168469744
sorry im autistic :(
>>168469743
>Hiro himself barely even reacts to the spider. He sees for a few seconds and that's it.
this is just dishonest. he has a heartattack.
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>>168469743
>Hiro himself barely even reacts to the spider
That is not true. He grabs his chest (right above the blue tumour) while looking at the spider.
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>>168469780
The "official skit" is a parody of the anime. If it confirmed anything, it's that the scene with the spider is a misdirection.
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>>168469793
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>>168469793
Either no one, or some of the P26 people.
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>>168469908
>the unofficial 4koma done by someone not even related to the production team proves it's misdirection.
it means nothing you're all retards
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>>168469965
This. Fuck off on the spider shit now please.

Norio Takao did not meant to put the entire fucking anime and character direction in one scene for christs sake.
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>>168469993
No retard the spider scene obviously means something important. They gave literally every single part of the scene some symbolism. The problem is nobody can agree on WHAT symbolism it is.
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So Mitsuru rode 02, hm?
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>>168470037
Weeks behind.
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>>168469965
>>168469993
It's an official 4-koma you idiots. It's released 3 times a week on DITF's official twitter: https://twitter.com/DARLI_FRA/status/963072449540538369
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>>168470031
Something important is not the entire character route good lord. Some of you are seriously thinking that and that's objectively wrong.
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>>168470066
Okay but anyone putting any stock value into it is retarded. It's a light hearted 4koma, it didn't confirm she's the spider nor did it deny.

Fuck the spider already.
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>>168470037
dunno why Japanese are addicted to cuck plot/guy
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>>168470109
>literally shows 02 as a spider and Hiro in her web
>d-didn't confirm she's supposed to be the spider!
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>>168470127
Japanese moved on and have been making fun of Mitsuru. It's this retarded board that keeps sticking to it.
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>>168470083
Nice strawman.
>Some of you are seriously thinking that
Even better preemptive deflection. Who are these nebulous "some" that ever claimed you can derive the entire character route out of that scene? Oh right, the cretins who subscribe to the '002 is evil' theory.
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Reminder
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>>168470149
>literally want me to believe a guy drawing a 1 page 4koma would confirm it
Yeah it didn't.
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>>168470163
Shitposters in general. It doesn't have to be specifically them, but that's most of the damn posts on the spider for the past few threads.
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>>168470190
>an official 4koma doesn't confirm it
okay just wait for it to happen in the actual anime if you ca't accept literal canon saying it is
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>>168470237
The 4-koma confirmed the opposite you dingus.
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>>168470190
The 4koma content never goes against what is already established by the show. 002 = a fucking spider.
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>>168470289
>literally shows 02 as a spider
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>>168470179
>"The thorned genista is a symbol for the sins of man, sins that force him to cultivate a field full of thorns and thistle; it is also a symbol for the suffering that Christ bore for humanity and is therefore a symbol of salvation as well."
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So does this mean 02 is also a professional somelier?
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>>168470290
Stop samefagging. The 4-koma is a parody and it's entire schtick is that it's building alternative comical scenarios starting from situations found in the anime.
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>>168470290
It does considering the content of the 4koma you moron.
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>>168470391
No, she said right there she doesn't know what that is.
nice try you almost got it though.
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>>168470391
Dr Franxx is a game developer.
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We've found a future scene, guys. They're going to go ballroom dancing.
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>>168470391
No but she is a literal spider that kills young boys
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>>168470438
She is literally shown with a glass of whine and a sommelier's suit on.
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Whoa, guys! 02 and Hiro can breathe in space.
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>>168470156
But even in /a/ the only people who stick to it are the lazier shitposters and the occasional retard. Everyone else knows Mitsuru is a fucking joke.
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>>168470463
retard it isn't face value. We aren't going to get a scene where Hiro is literally in a web and 02 is literally the spider.
The ballroom dancing is what the dancing style in the anime was symbolizing.
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Holy crap! I can't believe Dr. Franxx was there in episode 3 with a "kill them all" sign. How did I miss that?
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>>168468392
Oh look, it's la creatura ...
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>>168470557
because they didn't show him at all? it's probably just what he's thinking anyway.
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>>168470556
Just a reminder that this guy is serious, and 90% of the "shitposts" are done by genuinely retarded people who believe what they're typing.
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>>168470463
Fuck, I can't wait for the ballroom dancing episode. It will make my heart go doki doki.
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How did he manage to pilot with that cast?
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>>168470514
again >>168470556
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>>168470556
lmao this reach
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>>168470380
Yes faggot, that's the red herring. The actual Jorougumo is Ichigo.
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>>168470391
>>168470456
>>168470463
>>168470514
>>168470557
I love you
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>>168470666
>y-you're just reaching
uh-huh.
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>>168470645
Once again: the 4-koma is a parody of the anime and its entire schtick is that it's building alternative comical scenarios starting from situations found in the anime. Key words: "alternative" and "comical".
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>>168470675
>A literal who character like Ichigo being part of a scene with symbolism for the MC and main heroine
No
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>>168470717
He's right though.
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>>168470635
wow this is a major plot hole
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>>168470795
>A literal who character like Ichigo
What?
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The spider is a red herring meant to lead the audience into thinking that 02 is dangerous.
This was the entire point of the episode, and you're retarded if you think otherwise. Eventually Hiro and 02 are going to reconcile this part of their relationship, and this episode was setting up a later conflict where the two of them have to move past this part of her personality.
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>>168470795
>Ichigo
>literal who character
Fuck outta here moron.
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>>168470773
yes it's inherently comedic, but comedic scenes can still have meaning
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>>168470837
>a less obvious conclusion is a red herring
not r
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>>168470844
Not really.
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>>168470837
>this episode was setting up a later conflict where the two of them have to move past this part of her personality.
Hiro and 002 have already moved past that. Once again, with gusto: Ichigo is the Jorougumo.
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What if the red herring is a red herring?
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Will the direct of episode 5 direct another episode?
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>>168470884
>comedic scenes can have no meaning
literally false. the 4koma even has symbolism as shown
>>168470463
and >>168470514
as well as the spider scene.
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>>168470844
What part of "alternative comical scenario" is so hard to understand, faggot?
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>>168470925
what part of that makes it irrelevant to the canon? because it's comedic?
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So what scenes does Episode 6 need this Spider meme?
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>>168470896
Noriko Takao? Probably.
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>>168470963
>what is it about alternative scenarios that make them different from what actually happens?
Really makes me think.
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>>168470980
Fuck meant to say To kill this Spider meme
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> <Every week Monday, Monday, Tuesday renewal> The slightly loose "Dalihura" 4 pictures drawn by Professor mato of "Emperor and Together"!
author confirmed it's slightly loose canon.
although I'm sure you guys are going to cling to the slightly part
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>>168471028
Stop posting retard.
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>>168471020
We just need a new set of memes to come in
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>>168470885
That's a negative friend.
Episode 5 shows us 02 at her most dangerous:
>Not giving a shit about the parasite from the other plantation she let die
>Ready to kill Ichigo
>Lingering effects on Mitsuru
Hiro is willing to overlook all of this for now, but eventually she's going to go too far and they'll have to deal with it if their relationship is going to progress. The spider is there to allude to potential danger, but it doesn't mean that 02 is necessarily predatory towards Hiro
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>>168470980
It doesn't matter. There will be something new that retards will cling to for next week to shitpost with.
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>>168471020
It won't. Ichigo is the spider, and she will try harder to sabotage Hiro and 002's relationship from now on.
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>>168471028
Keep posting anon.
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>>168471095
The episode went way, way above your head.
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>>168470896
Considering she was a KA on previous episode? yeah. Megumi Kouno and Akai will be back again too.

We got the better KyoAni side unlike Violet. [I'm talking about Norio]
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>>168471019
>he thinks the anime shows us every single moment of the characters lives and every interaction
lol
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>>168471095
>Ready to kill Ichigo
What?
her glowing red was because she was Pissed off she wasn't going to kill her
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>>168471028
>slightly loose canon
The hell does that even mean? 2 words that basically say it is not canon before it. This has nothing to stand on at all. What kind of retard would trust someone who said that?
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>>168470456
Nana destroyed the game made by Dr. FranXX because she found a bug (spider) >>168470380 . 02 tried searching the web for solutions but it failed, so they just fucked off and went full FranXX e Youkouso >>168470463
Fuck Ichigo
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>>168471248
I agree but these tards are so obtuse they would hang on it
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>>168471263
>some autist took the time to put this all together
I'm impressed.
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>>168471248
>replying seriously to an EOP retard who passed moonrunes through Google translate
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>>168471263
thanks tumblr
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>>168471178
4koma doesn't though.
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GUYS WHAT IF the next Klaxosaur is a spider
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02
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>>168471263
extremely high quality post
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>>168471417
ok but WHAT IF the next klaxosaur is a stand
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>>168471379
Why the fuck does she look so scary in that picture?
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>>168471441
fuck off underage.
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>>168471349
"Neither pleasure nor pain should enter as motives when one must do what must be done."
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>no counter-arguments to the OP anywhere in the thread
I'd like to see some though.
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>>168471489
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>>168470456
Based Dr. Franxx, I would play the shit out of a Mega Man clone like this. Though it's too bad he would be the final boss.
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>>168471517
you aren't taking into account the myth of the Joro.
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>>168471593
Except the allusion to that youkai is exactly what those two posts are about.
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>>168471489
That Hiro is asking to be abused.
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Who's gonna remain loyal to papa when the rebellion starts?
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>>168471632
FUCK how did I not realize this?
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>>168471632
Birdcage is for the Jian symbolism.
Web is for the spider.
don't mix them up please. they're seperate symbols.
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>>168471519
>>168471489
>PSG artstyle associated with FranXX
Don't have any idea why it is, but it looks pretty fucking good. Give me more of that shit
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>>168471692
milkman
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>>168471689
yeah I know right
Hiro looks so feminine I just wanna rape him
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>>168471729
https://mangadex.com/manga/23201
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>>168471658
show me where. I don't see it.
>spider (((ONI))) which can change its appearance into that of a beautiful woman. She seeks men to seduce.
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>>168471702
LMAO, the level of desperation here.
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Emogoub abstu the spider ple2se
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>>168471825
what?
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>>168471865
Fuck
*Enough about the spider please
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>>168471809
The Jorougumo is a youkai not an oni, dipshit.
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>>168471918
>>168471865
Anon did you have a stroke?
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>>168471919
show me where still.
i put oni there because 02 is an oni
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>>168471807
DAS IT MANE
BLESS YOUR SOUL ANON
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>>168471942
I was looking away and wanted to be a badass and type while not looking at the screen.

I do stupid shit like that because I'm a child at heart.
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>>168471875
Exactly what I said: you're reaching. A spider's web is also a kind of prison.
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>>168471865
>>168471918
What the fuck.
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>>168471979
I understand why you would want to look away while typing considering the spider on your keyboard about to touch your hands right now.
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>>168471953
Read the fucking posts maybe? Are you dyslexic?
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>>168471979
I'm trying this eight now. All skill baby
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>>168472027
Noooo!

>>168472016
See >>168471979 Don't hate me.

>>168472059
I'll do better next time, senpai.
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>>168471942
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>>168472056
you made two giant fuck off walls of text and you wonder why nobody wants to reply to you.
kill yourself.
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>there are people here who can't touch-type
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>>168471865
Jesus christ man i'm fucking dying here.
Also somehow this kinda portrays the threads in some way
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>>168472129
I'm just bad at a lot of things.

Except fapping.
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>>168472114
So you're dyslexic. Got it.
>kill yourself.
No you. Fucking genetic refuse.
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>>168471979
>needing to look at the screen to type
wew lad
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I want to fuck Ichigo in the ass. She would be literally perfect for that.
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>>168471979
Now that's autism.
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>>168472219
No one wants to fuck Ichigo.
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>>168472247
At least it's not the negative kind.
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She'll be back.
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>Another spider bullshit thread
Christ, can you fuckers just stop already
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>>168467041
>>168467063
This show attracts a peculiar kind of autism ridden individuals
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Bird of Paradise!
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I think I got something here
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>>168472323
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>>168472323
Anon let go already, by this point the Karling in the Franks shit is more plausible than Naomi ever appearing again.
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>>168472356
I wish I could say it would end with episode 6, but I get the feeling they're going to leave it on Hiro collapsing as a cliffhanger, so it will continue for another week.
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>>168471804
Take this down
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>>168472323
Why did they make her so damn cute if they were just going to kill her half an episode in
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>>168472391
This show is too deep for me.
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>>168472323
we
literally
watched
her
die
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>>168471979
>I was looking away and wanted to be a badass and type while not looking at the screen.
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Alright lads it's time to take bets on how many of Plantation 26's parasites are going to survive the attack.
I'm guessing absolutely none of them.
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Anon who looked away from the screen saved us from Spider discussion if you think about it.
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>>168472391
Holy shit. Well that's that. Love, faithfulness and all shit confirmed.
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>>168471692
Kokoro, just watch.
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this is now a cuntposting thread
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>>168472547
One max, but I'm going to go with zero.
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>thinking spiders have a queen
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wow what a cunt!
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>>168471263
This theory is begging the question --

If 002 can deliberately immunise the stamen against the ill effects of riding Strelizia with her, why didn't she do it sooner? What's so special about Hiro?
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didn't even smile!
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Don't get in the way of 02 and her mate.
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>>168469385
@rin_cosplay
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>>168472323
She's dead.
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>>168467507
This shadow. She truly is a monster.
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>>168472671
She wanted Hiro because he is /ourboy/ and he has the heart suited to be with her.
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>>168469221
Kill yourself.
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luckily Hiro didn't notice this one. would have stung.
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>>168471435
No. It's pretty much a textbook example of begging the question.
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>>168472606
Shes complimenting his strength while peppering it with her overwhelming confidence in him. What more is there to ask of someone.
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>>168472702
Cute dinosaur.
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>>168472450
I don't know, ask Strelitzia.
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>>168472671
She might only be capable of doing it once, and then they're forever linked together. Think less praying mantis and more anglerfish.
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>>168472671
because Hiro's reaction is different and look at how Hiro is treating her compared to other stamens.
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>in 2018 grown men think spiders have queens
you learn something new every day.
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consider Hiro seduced
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>>168472717
Did you even read the post I was replying to? I am asking for an intra-diegetic justification of that.
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>>168471979
>"I was looking away and wanted to be a badass and type while not looking at the screen"
>he can't type while looking away because he hasn't memorized the keys and where they're all placed on the keyboard
Your skills are inferior
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>>168467507
>Shadows breaking apart at the bottom
you're welcome, kiddies. I solved the mystery.
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>>168472671
>>168471263
The head guys literally mention Hiro is somehow special.
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>>168472887
not like this please.
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Do you accept the girls Valentine's cookies /a/?
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>>168472831
Nice reading comprehension. That was referring to Ichigo's position as the squad leader and intermediary for the adults to the children, not spiders.
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>>168472988
Okay, Mr. Queen Spider. This is too much.
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>>168472981
As long as Ichigo didn't bake them.
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>>168472988
>Ichigo is the leader of the P13 parasites, and the "queen" of the nest
what nest are you referring to?
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>>168472786
Gibe her back, plz.
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>>168472952
The special specimen thing was already a thing before Zero Two came into the picture. It's the whole reason why he could stay and Naomi couldn't.
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>>168473021
>イチゴの手作りクッキー
Too late
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>>168472796
But how Hiro treated 002 was outside her control.
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Wait how does 02 horns grow smaller when she gets Older?
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>>168473036
Yeah, but that's the thing. The theory says "He's not special" but he is LITERALLY acknowledged as being special.
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>>168473082
You're not the smartest man, are you?
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>>168473081
Exactly.
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>>168473102
Nope Im very stupid and Im sorry for that
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>>168473027
The bird's cage, what else.
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Is Ichigo justice?
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>>168473117
How does that prove that Hiro is not special?
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>>168472793
And?
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>>168473064
Dropped. I want Miku's cookies.
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>>168473134
why not just say cage
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>>168473179
No I'm saying he is special unless I misread your post that I replied to.
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>>168473174
She's garbage.
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>>168472981
If it's from Ikuno if she would even make some, which I doubt. But a man can dream
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>>168473228
SHE'S CUTE. CUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTEEEE!
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>>168473174
Ichigo is cute.
I want to receive valentines day chocolate from her.
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>>168472653
Wtf I hate 02 now.
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>>168473217
Read the damn thing for fuck's sake: >>168471263
The whole theory there is that Hiro is in no way special, that 002 simply did something to him in episode 1 and that is why he seems special compared to the other stamen. My point was that this is begging the question.
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>>168473296
when will Hiro make this face?
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>>168473216
Because the bird cage is also a nest. Hiro uses the same term himself on a couple occasions, making an (perhaps unintentional) equivalence between his lack of piloting ability and a hatchling that cannot leave its nest, for example.
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>>168473405
he gets into strelitzia and finds ichigo wearing a red suit
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>>168473346
Isn't there a part where the adults actually say that Hiro was special?
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>>168471263
Are you fucking kidding me?
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>>168473346
Then yeah, APE literally points out he's special.
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>>168473520
this is the theory thread. dyslexic retards need not apply.
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>>168473505
They call him special specimen, yes. He was created to be oni partner.
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>>168473505
There are two such scenes but they're ambiguous. The adults are talking about a "special specimen" and it's implied that it could be Hiro, but it's not concrete.
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https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5540121094

Finally, someone draw a combat between Violet and 02, it looks quite good.
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>>168473566
But nana and Hachi are specifically talking about it and refer to him as such.
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>>168473560
>r-read my long shitpost please
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>>168473565
>He was created to be oni partner.
>yet they don't want him to mix with her
What?

>>168473575
Fuck off.
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>>168473566
>>168473565
So then >>168471263 this post is all basically bullshit? It starts off implying that Zero Two gave him something special, but the adults literally say he's special. They didn't clarify how he was special, but still.
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>>168473622
You are correct anon.
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>>168473588
Nana and Hachi are speculating on whether Hiro could be a "special specimen". They confirm nothing. Keep in mind that I am the guy who first posted a rebut to the theory in that image. I'm just pointing out that the "special specimen" scenes are ambiguous because they are. I agree with you of course, the implication is there. We only need the confirmation, which is certain to come sometime in the future.
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>>168473662
>anon
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>>168473622
Congrats, you're a regular cyber sleuth.
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>>168473084
True. But him being special does not need to be related to him surviving. We don't know in what ways he is special. APE knows he's special, but if they know he is special in some way relating to Zero Two, why didn't they put them together in the first place?

My main point is that Hiro isn't special *in being given the growth*. Not necessarily in surviving it. It's possible she has given it to someone else before but they died. It's obvious he's The One even if it's only on an emotional level and that he was different to begin with. The point is that what's happening was Zero Two's decision and that she's acting the way she is for reasons other than emotional.

>>168473214
And?
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>>168473560
nobody wants to read that much shit, retard
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>>168473700
Not about anime at least. Either way, I don't see why that guy is getting so butthurt that no one is reading his research paper.
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>>168471263
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>>168473688
I have Anonymize on, so everyone appears on my screen as Anonymous.
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>>168473752
>that guy is getting so butthurt that no one is reading his research paper.
It ain't me.
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>>168473688
Cute Franxx in the back
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>>168473699
>And?
>She might only be capable of doing it once
>t's possible she has given it to someone else before but they died
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>>168473805
Hence the image.
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>>168470514
Well, there is an Air in Space Museum.
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>>168473690
Finally.

>>168473699
He's only special in the way that his body will adapt to her Dino AIDS while her other partners did not adapt. This is why his yellow blood cells increase, his body is compensating. The other partner's yellow blood cells drop because the body can't compensate and after three times their body fails. On Hiro's third ride the opposite will happen.
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>>168473599
>>168473700
Some of us do and already did. Fuck off brainlets.
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>>168473825
Those are two exclusive possibilities.
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>>168473822
I bet it will die offscreen in the next episode. Sad, really
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Please, stop pretending it isn't you.
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>>168473700
I just did you lazy baka
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What if Hiro is getting cancer from 02's radioactive spider pussy juices? Very possible.
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>>168473986
What a lucky bastard.
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>>168473986
>pussy juices
>haven't had sex yet
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>>168473888
It's interesting how literally all the variations on the "002 is evil" (substitute "evil" for "manipulative" in your case) theory have to rely on circular arguments.
You're also wrong about the spider only being able to represent 002. But even before that, your theory is full of holes and you need to assume your conclusion.

Quite interesting indeed.
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>>168473986
>radioactive spider
does he get super human strength?
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>>168474016
Well, they've had "sex" in the mecha.
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>>168473699
APE says they don't want to taint her blood right? He's probably a small group of special specimens but we don't know enough on that background.

Given Nana and Hachi are analyzing exactly what's happening to his body, I imagine him being one of those has him have the opposite reaction. In turn, whatever Zero Two gives to Hiro his body is accepting and adapting to. Something possibly necessary for him to survive as her partner.
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>>168473822
would pilot
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>>168474062
But pussy juices implies penetration. There was no penetration.
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>>168474038
that's not how circular argument works anon.
the poster and spider can be seen as foreshadowing an evil 02, and every scene works under that pretense (nothing contradicts it.)
not that those scenes ARE the proof.
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What does this mean?
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>>168474124
No, that's exactly how circular arguments work. You assume that 002 is evil from the get-go, and then reinterpret everything to fit that assumption.
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>>168474124
That's a circular argument though. You reevaluated everything for your theory.
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Please, let me pilot one more time. Just once! You know I'm good for it. Come on Goro, piloting is the only time I really feel alive! Don't take this away from me.
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>>168474144
Stabbing a giant electric razor in the ass.
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>>168474144
Strelizia is trying to give the worm an enema.
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>>168474175
I want to fuck Hiro
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>>168474038
Are you implying I don't like Zero Two? Because I love her. I don't dislike her, I just think something like this would make her a much more interesting and nuanced character.

>You're also wrong about the spider only being able to represent 002.
How so? How could it represent anything or anybody else?

>But even before that, your theory is full of holes
I'd be glad if you pointed them out.

>>168474155
Again, I don't think she's evil.

>>168474173
That's not me.
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>>168474175
I swear to god I wrote a ichigobully greentext about Hiro getting addicted to 02 right after episode 2
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>>168471692
Zorome, at least at first, because he admires adults. But he'll be disillusioned quickly.
Mitsuru, because of his dumb rivalry with Hiro
Kokoro, because of how prudent she is
Fatman, because they will bribe him with food
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>>168474175
The expression change here was amazing. When camera change from Goro to Hiro again, that tender smile on his face touched my heart. I will fall in love with him if I am Goro.
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They all will die.
Anno will come out in the ending and carry a sign wih EVA last redo and it will turn black.
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>>168474155
>>168474173
no u don't understand. The spider and poster spark the idea of evil, and then you go back and realize that the show still makes sense even if she is evil.
what starts the idea of evil is the poster and spider.
people talk about other scenes to show that they don't contradict that idea. If they can be explained under the idea then the idea is still possible.
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>>168474249
We got KyoAni without having to resort to VEG thankfully.
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>>168474224
>Are you implying I don't like Zero Two?
I don't care whether you like her or not. I'm just pointing out your theory is so tenuous that you have to rely on circular arguments to "support" it.

>How so? How could it represent anything or anybody else?
Did you even read the OP?
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>>168474286
Hiro will die.

But his soul will chose to go back in time, the the time when he was happiest, and he will be at season 1 first episode.

Ichigo who loves Hiro want to be with him too and want to be in a time when Hiro'd love her, but since he already loves Zero Two she'll go back in time before Hiro is born, and became his mother.
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>>168474286
Anno apparently did some visual directions.
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>>168474293
>no u don't understands
>proceeds to explain that he's using a circular arguments in so many words
Bravo anon.
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>>168474355
Except he was probably born in a test tube.
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>>168474370
Speaking of Anno when the hell is he gonna direct an episode
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>>168474370
Source?
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>>168474408
>replying to ancient pasta
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>>168474388
The only proof she's evil is the poster and the spider, is there is any proof at all.
those two things make people thing she could be evil.
this is not a circular argument.
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>>168474355
>>168474370
>>168474408
>>168474420
>>168474434
>>168474467
>it was his plan all along
Thank Anno
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>>168474467
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So DITF is the final EVA Rebuild
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>>168474472
>this is not a circular argument.
Yes it is. You're starting from that point, and then reinterpret everything in the anime so that it fits with it.

>those two things make people thing she could be evil.
Only if you're retarded.
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>>168474420
Maybe later on? I know beam god Se jun Kim is directing an episode and will be involved as a regular KA.

>>168474434
Not him, but pretty sure that Sakyuuga guy posted it around the airing of ep 1.
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>>168474472
Those two things are when you take things at surface value though lol
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>>168474557
"Pretty sure" is not good enough.
>that Sakyuuga guy
Literally who?
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>>168474557
It’s not like I really wanna see his boards or anything but I just wanna see people get pissed about him working on this instead of the rebuilds or whatever.

They teased Tsurumaki directing an episode in one of the old interviews prior to the show, so that’ll be neat.
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>>168474612
All I got is this guy https://twitter.com/sakyuuga
Who is he supposed to be?
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>>168474549
you only reinterpret it to prove that the idea works in the context of everything that's happened.
if people went
>she's evil
>no because she had a monologue about loving Hiro
>okay she isn't
then that's it. but if you go and reinterpret everything, you don't get any contradictions.

people aren't using the reinterpreted scenes as proof. if they were, then it's a circular argument.
but nobody is.
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>>168471263
Literal autism. It's impressive that /a/ can pretend to see the most absurd things on the shallowest shows even after all these years.
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>>168474668
>They teased Tsurumaki directing an episode in one of the old interviews prior to the show,
I call bullshit again. Link please.
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>>168474695
he tweets a lot of sakuga shit and is affiliated with people in the know and leak the entire next episodes staff list.
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>>168474668
I wouldn't be surprised. Pretty much most of the ED's and AD's that have come on board for the show are old Gainax.
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>>168474370
Not true. Khara is involved to an extent but not Anno himself.
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>>168474786
Khara is doing the CG with A1. They basically did the entire Plantation.
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>>168474708
>f you go and reinterpret everything, you don't get any contradictions.
Obviously, because that is the purpose of reinterpreting everything in the first place, to make it fit with your theory.

>but nobody is.
Every single moron who subscribe to a version of this type of theory does. Literally every single one of you STARTS by assuming 002 is in some sense evil, and than try to make the story fit your interpretation.
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>>168471865
>>168471942
>>168471979
>we have great discussions here guise, that's why we reach 700 posts with only 120 IPs. I-It is totally not a circlejerk, o-okay
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>>168474807
That's consensual rape
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From your very own 4chan:
>Khara is doing the CG due to Koyama's connections
>Most of the robot action is 2D, but the show has a significant amount of CG because Nishigori made Khara do huge CG models of the cities and scenarios. During the action scenes, a lot of backgrounds are dynamic CG. Nishigori thought it was going to make it easier to do exciting action scenes.
>A lot of the art assets have been created by Khara and Nishigori thinks it has a look similar to the new Eva movies.
>The giant moving fortress would have been impossible to accomplish without Khara's help
>>164460877
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>>168474746
>There are a lot of “big people” involved in the storyboards and animation. Nishigori said that he went around asking for help from everyone he knew. Involvement from Khara’s core group (Tsurumaki, Masayuki, Higuchi, Maeda) is obvious. There are also other former Gainax people.
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>>168474868
we need Consensual rape in this show
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>>168474908
Yeah I remember this one as well.
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>>168474900
We know all that shit already. I'm asking you what ass you pulled the "Anno did image boards for the series" and "Tsurumaki will direct an episode" shit from.
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>>168472219
her ass is perfect
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>>168467063
Hiro also desribed the feeling after kissing Ichigo and failing the mock battle as being bound up in a thousand invisible threads.
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>>168474952
Why are you labeling it to one person? I was clearly replying to the CG sub topic and am someone else.
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>>168467063
>In episode 1 it is revealed that she doesn't much care whether Hiro can "fly" or not, as long as he stays there (with her).

or she just doesn't want him to be made into fertiliser.

not like she immediately volunteered to try to pilot a franxx with him when given the chance
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>>168474807
She'll open their public comms channel during the big battle while Hiro is going full klaxo.
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>>168474855
Right so when everything can be explained under the theory, that means it's actually possible.
people have discussions about the reinterpreted scenes to decide if they contradict the theory or not, not to act as the proof of the theory.
> Literally every single one of you STARTS by assuming
not for no reason. because of the spider and poster, which actively hint at her being evil.

we're now going in circles because you don't understand that people aren't using the reinterpretations as the proof.
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>>168474952
>will board
>teasing

There’s a difference anon, it hasn’t been 100% confirmed yet chill playa
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>>168475018
>which actively hint at her being evil.
Not true. Both the discarded poster and the spider scenes are pointedly ambiguous.
>Right so when everything can be explained under the theory, that means it's actually possible.
There are an infinite number of theories that are "possible" in that sense.
This shit holds no water.
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>>168474346
>I'm just pointing out your theory is so tenuous that you have to rely on circular arguments to "support" it.
But you haven't explained what part is a circular argument. The theory doesn't reach any conclusions, it's only considering how things happened. The point isn't "Zero Two did this, therefore she's evil" but "maybe she did things in this way". Parts of it are precipitated (assuming what she will do), I admit that, but what I'm trying to do is see if there's another way to explain her behavior so far, and if it can be related to something else we know we don't know. Much of it are just questions.

>Did you even read the OP?
Nope, I posted it after I was done writing on the thread that seemed most fitting.
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>>168471263
>>168472391
>>168471865
kek jesus
i can't breath
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>>168467041
good catch

ichigo is trapped by the chainlink fence in the ed too
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>>168475018
>you don't understand that people aren't using the reinterpretations as the proof.
You have no proof. You only have your initial assumption, and the work you do to reinterpret the story to fit that assumption.
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>>168475108
3 dino babies
if they live by the end of the series
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>>168475154
>CHAINLINK
SERGEY IS BEHIND THIS?!
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>>168475118
>what part is a circular argument.
See >>168472671
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>thread is so cancerous that it's filled with tripshits and people are even replying to them
Based.
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>>168474952

>>164727460
>Tanaka played a big part on the definition of the characters. Nishigori believes Tanaka is a genius in character acting. The character animation is very high-quality thanks to Tanaka's great efforts.
>Zero-Two was the character they took the most time to design; they had to consider her personality and role as main heroine because in a way she was expected to become the icon of the show. The idea was a dangerous-looking yet beautiful and alluring girl.
>Their personality is completely different, but Zero-Two was slightly inspired by Lum from Urusei Yatsura. The horns make it obvious. This is also the reason why she calls Hiro "darling."
>Yoshinari is very thankful to have Tanaka and Imaishi on board, the boat would sink without them. The show may get a bit ambitious for a single director, but with Tanaka as chief animation director making sure the visual characterization is high-quality and Imaishi making the action-scenes exciting he can keel looking at the big picture instead of burdening himself with everything.
>Nishigori jokes that even if he feels pressure, it is nothing compared to how tense he felt while directing Idolmaster. Idolmaster was a big franchise with an established fanbase, and he himself was a fan. He knew that there were a lot of expectations placed upon him. With DarliFra he is having a lot of fun. He still wants to great a quality and enjoyable work, but there isn't someone whole will be judging everything he does.
>Koyama drew the designs after a single description of Nishigori that went along the lines of: "What if the robots were like cute girls?"
>Nishigori is pleased with the elegant and cool yet also cute designs.
>There are a lot of "big people" involved in the storyboards and animation. Nishigori said that he went around asking for help from everyone he knew. Involvement from Khara's core group (Tsurumaki, Masayuki, Higuchi, Maeda) is obvious. There are also other former Gainax people.
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>>168475108
4. They'll have Ichigo watch them when they go off for date night.
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>>168475215
Not seeing "Anno" anywhere in there.
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>>168475110
Spider I can see as maybe ambiguous but if you disagree with the poster you're being dishonest. I don't agree that 02 is evil 100% like some anons who jump the gun, just that It's a possibility, by the way.
>there are an infinite number of theories that are "possible" in that sense.
yes, many theories are possible. as you can see from other threads there are many theories.
you're getting there anon.
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Guys the Franxx are Linknodes
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>>168475249
Are you a literal retard? Obviously answering your latter beef. Calm down and accept that much.
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Nice just bought 100k
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>>168475110
>There are an infinite number of theories that are "possible" in that sense.
that's how theories work you stupid faggot.
>okay this might be a thing based on this
>does it make sense if we test it against everything?
yes? okay it's a valid theory.
no? alright it isn't.
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>>168475259
> if you disagree with the poster you're being dishonest
Oh fuck off. We discussed that poster enough in the episode 3 threads, back when it was the inbetweens during the "dance" scene that people desperately used as "evidence".
It can mean any number of things.
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>>168475215
Here's the last bit for people who never saw this interview:
>>164727571
>Other people involved include Noriko Takao from IMAS and the usual Trigger people like Hiroshi Kobayashi. But Nishigori is also letting animators try their hand at storyboards.
>The story focuses on Hiro and Zero-Two, but it's an ensemble cast drama and all 10 characters will have a relevant role and development.
>Nishigori hopes people will enjoy watching it, he tells everyone that he is definitely enjoying working on it.

http://www.animatetimes.com/news/details.php?id=1510656104
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>>168475213
Except no one is replying to them and you’re just trying to stir up shit
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so whad you guys thinkin aboud dat scene with teh birdey?[soiler]][spoil
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>>168475338
it can mean any number of things but undoubtedly it bears resemblance to a concealed evil.
People have said they thought 02 was going to be the villain before the show came out because of it.
denying that is dishonest.
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>>168475330
>does it make sense if we test it against everything?
It doesn't.
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>>168475259
>if you disagree with the poster you're being dishonest.
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>>168475436
based
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>>168475449
that's something else entirely. my point was that it isn't circular argument.
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>>168475443
>denying that is dishonest.
wat
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>>168475471
tanks eiam not god in England
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>>168475443
You're reaching so hard I feel I'm getting dumber just reading your retarded posts.

>hey it could be aliens
>I'm not saying it's definitely aliens, but it's possible it's aliens
Just fuck off already.
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>>168475108
What if the entire series is just them telling this story to their kid and a timeskip happens at the end?
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I think hiro is consuming 02. I mean, he's the opposite of the others
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>>168475468
>>168475490
people thought she would be evil months before the show came out because the poster is clearly and undoubtedly in a hidden intentions position.
>>168475522
If something makes you think it could be aliens and then nothing says it ISN'T aliens, then yes.
It could actually be aliens.
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>>168475546
>>168475527
>>168475522
>>168475506
>>168475490
Samefag
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>>168475108
Whatever amount brings back Worried Strawberry.
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>>168475561
wow you really didn't reply me ? fuck you
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>>168475489
>my point was that it isn't circular argument.
Jesus Christ you're living proof that euthanasia should be mandatory for retards.
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>>168475561
Wow. 1 You.
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>>168475591
Sorry my love I will do this this instant
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>>168475576
There's only been two Worried Strawberry posts so far, right?

I actually hope the poster doesn't inundate us with the posts to be honest, having a couple max every week lets the meme stay fresh and enjoyable instead of become trite.
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>>168475596
at least I know how a theory works.
try again with bigger insults next time underage-kun
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>>168475527
Literally best timeline.
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>tfw no oni wife
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>>168475616
Nice try
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>>168475653
What about like only when each episode comes out and it gets worse for Ichigo?
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>>168475596
don't use the name of our lord and savior jesus in vain faglord
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>>168475340
>>The story focuses on Hiro and Zero-Two, but it's an ensemble cast drama and all 10 characters will have a relevant role and development.
That's good to know, I'm getting tired of 02/Hiro/Ichigo triangle
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>>168475559
>nothing says it ISN'T aliens
Except for everything that does, which you conveniently doctor away to make ithe details consistent with your retarded "it was aliens" theory.
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>>168475561
all me baby
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>>168475697
Hayamin and a lot of the other cast confirmed they all have integral roles. Apparently we will get Mitsuru's past soon and why he ended up this way for example.
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>>168475659
So far you've only managed to demonstrate how clueless and stupid you are. The word you're looking for is "hypothesis", just so you know.
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>>168475705
again, I told you that's a different argument. I don't believe 02 is evil. I'm telling you it isn't a circular argument, that's just how a theory works.
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>>168475752
sorry you're right hypothesis. it's midnight mb.
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>>168475697
Well hopefully they completely eradicate what little remains of that stupid triangle soon.
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>>168475760
Again: you're a mouth-breathing moron. And you're constantly using terms you don't understand.
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>>168467041
FRANXX IS SO DEEP
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>>168475803
Yeah. For you it's midnight 24/7. Please at least get a vasectomy.
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>>168475824
I was using theory instead of hypothesis and that's it. you don't understand what a circular argument is.
but yes the more you insult me for no reason the smarter you are.
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>>168475834
You need a ver high IQ to undersdsant
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Is 02 the best girl of the season?
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>>168475861
I understand it quite clearly, and I've explained it several times already.
>you insult me
It's the least I can do. I doubt anything I say will ever get through to you, because you're dumb as shit.
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>>168475197
But that's not the point. The point is whether she did something to him or not and whether she knows what's happening to him and played a part in it. There has to be something special to Hiro one way or another for her to do what she does. What's being contested is in what way and to what degree. That's what I want to know, how much does she know about what's happening to him and if she played a willing part on it. Why was the first fight kept in the dark and then forgotten? Why was what happened to Mitsuru kept in the dark?
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>>168475899
Yes.
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>>168475899
Year.
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>>168475899
yes because there simply isn't any competition. it's not even a contest.
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>>168475899
Decade
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>>168475935
>whether she did something to him or not
Same difference. You're assuming she did something to him in the first place.
>whether she knows what's happening to him
This is a separate issue. She could have an idea about what is happening to him without her being the one to have deliberately caused it.
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>>168475899
Not even best FranXX girl.
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>>168475899
Not that much going on this season
so yeah she is
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>>168475934
everytime I explain to you what it actually means or why it isn't you just tell me 02 isn't evil
>>168475489
>>168475760
happened twice and now you just keep insulting me.
goodnight underage-kun. you don't want to be late for school tomorrow.
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I want not looking at screen anon back.
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>>168471263
>>168471263
I grinned,

I think the flaw with your hypotheses is that APE implies that the blood of a stamen and pistil are somehow mixed in their comment about 02's blood being "tainted" by Hiro.

That, on top of Nana and Hachi being unsurprised by the process that is happening, even if it's happening in an inverse manner compared to previous stamens, implies that this is a well-known affect of piloting together with 02.

The symptoms are just different even if the process is the same.
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>>168475935
>Why was the first fight kept in the dark and then forgotten? Why was what happened to Mitsuru kept in the dark?
To the audience only. Some of the characters in the story (other than 002) are also privy to the information, so it's clear that we are not shown for purely extra-diegetic reasons.
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what happens when everyone learns the girl from episode 1 is fuckin dead
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>>168475899
Yes.
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>>168475684
>What about like only when each episode comes out and it gets worse for Ichigo?

That works too, but I do like the worried strawberry posts.

My only worry is that story wise, I'm not sure how much longer Ichigo will be into Hiro. She might find him monstrous after next episode, especially after 02 put the fear of the horns into her.
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>>168476124
Here anon.
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>>168475899
Yes, but only because Sakura ascended to GOAT tier years ago.
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>>168476038
You literally only said "it's not a circular argument". I am convinced you have no bloody clue what a circular argument even is, even though I've explained it several times already: you're assuming what you want to prove.
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>>168476124
have this
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>>168476162
Thanks. Here's the You.
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>>168472323
>yfw she comes back as the final boss in a FranXX with 01
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>>168476148
here I'm even going to show you the post where I explained that it's a hypothesis not a circular argument again
>>168475330
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>>168476162
>tfw no dino gf to impregnate
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>>168476203
Might as well start now.
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>>168476202
A hypothesis that relies on circular arguments, retard. It being a hypothesis does not mean you're not using circular arguments. Stop posting already.
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>>168474916
I am really hoping for a repeat of the Valvrape incident
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>>168476282
read the explanation again :)
maybe you'll comprehend it this time
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02 is awful. I hate her with all my heart.
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Can you retards stop fucking replying to shitposters.
Obviously this braindead faggot is never going to admit he doesn't know how circular arguments work just stop fucking replying.
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>>168476357
Fuck off Ichigo
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>>168475340
I'm only going to enjoy it if we get to see Hiro beat the shit out of Mitsuru for being a whiny little bitchboy
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Sweet Genista!
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>>168476357
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>>168476357
Dumb strawberry
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>>168476353
See >>168475705 the only way you can sustain your hypothesis is by reinterpreting the available information to make it conform with it, i.e. by using circular arguments. I'm repeating this even though I have 0 hopes you'll ever comprehend it.
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>>168476367
This is going to keep going till the actual episode is out unfortunately.
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>>168476357
dumb ichigo poster
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>>168476377
Maybe Mitsuru will have his Rossiu moment later.
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>>168476367
>>168476432
sorry
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>>168476367
He's not shitposting. He's honest-to-God retarded. He even made an image with a wall of text. People don't go to those lengths for "shitposting".
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>>168476020
>You're assuming she did something to him in the first place.
Well, I can't have a theory that isn't refutable, can I?

>She could have an idea about what is happening to him without her being the one to have deliberately caused it.
If she does then she's keeping something from him whether she did something or not, which also leads us as to why.

>>168476082
>To the audience only. Some of the characters
>for purely extra-diegetic reasons
How can it be extra-diagetic when the protagonist doesn't know about it? The whole of their interactions is based on Hiro not knowing what's going to happen with him. He assumes that he's going to die, but we are led to assume he's not. If the data we don't have isn't relevant then Zero Two is doing what she's doing for no reason other than she likes teasing him. Why would she put him through that? Whether it's emotional or not, she's deliberately taking him to a point where he can't go back from.
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My autism gets triggered a bit when I remember that Ichigo means strawberry but 02 is the one with the strawberry color scheme.
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>>168476357
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I like how supportive Ichigo's friends are
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>>168476496
>How can it be extra-diagetic when the protagonist doesn't know about it?
Because other characters in the story do know about it. Nana, hachi and the Lamarck club know what happened in episode 1. Only Hiro has amnesia.
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>>168476549
I dont know why but every shot of her hair covering her face is really funny to me
whats wrong with me
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>>168476549
It is kind of funny. Everyone else's opinion improved of Zero Two's, Ichigo's worsened.
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>>168476377
something like this
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>>168476571
>Only Hiro has amnesia.
Yes, and all his actions depend on it.
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>>168476496
>Well, I can't have a theory that isn't refutable, can I?
But that's exactly what you're constructing. You're reinterpreting any conflicting information to fit your theory.
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the ending dance of her in the episode number 5 is really cute and full of joy. I'd like to have a girl like that...
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>>168476617
That's irrelevant. Stop trying to derail the discussion into something else whenever you're proven wrong.
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>>168476549
>>168476586
Ichigo is duplicitous. She is dishonest with herself and others.
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I am secretly a spider.
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>>168476636
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>>168476778
Hiro should have fucked her right there. You know she was ready to go.
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>>168476636
it had a hint of madness for sure, but it was a madness of absolute joy. Hiro absolutely deserves her and she deserves him.
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>>168471979
you are like a little babyt, watch this
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>>168476899
am i 3getting bett4r now?
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>>168476726
Lets analyze the fuck out of you.
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>>168476704
Her hair hides her emotions.
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Here's Zero Two's Valentine's https://twitter.com/DARLI_FRA/status/963646497161203712
Yes that's honey.
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>>168477119
It's cute
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>>168477020
obligatory development haircut when
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I am actually a beautiful butterfly.
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A good error for aniplex, the Episode 1 to 6 theatrical screening required subscriptions and they got bombarded so hard that it caused an error in the system.
https://twitter.com/DARLI_FRA/status/963376517806931970

They introduce a new present every 10K followers and they're about to hit 70K. They can barely keep up with the rise.
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>>168476630
>You're reinterpreting any conflicting information to fit your theory.
But it isn't conflicting. You're saying you know in what way he's special and how it relates to her when you don't. You're assuming something is concrete evidence when it's obviously made to be a mystery.

>>168476674
>That's irrelevant.
It's not. The theory is trying to explain why she's acting like she is and keeping him in the dark. What he knows or not isn't irrelevant.
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>>168476778
what did she mean by this?
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>>168477360
Is she evil??? I think the twirl represents maliciousness!!!
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>>168477360
Mating dance.
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>>168476549
The best part of this scene was how immediately after saying that Ichigo curled a little inwards on herself.
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>>168477297
hi hiro
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>>168476591
KLAXOSAURS MITSURU
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>>168477358
The mystery is only in what way Hiro is special, not whether he is. It's pretty obvious that he's special.
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>>168477443
As she said: if you lose a partner you can always find another one
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>>168477541
That's why I'm speculating.
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Hiro gets the best.
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>>168477714
it seems the others pilots too
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>>168477119
Would eat
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Japan knows what she was feeling.
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>>168478208
She's an angel.
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Eyyyyy you know what they say, three time's the charm. Our boy Hiro will make out juuuust fine
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>>168478487
I bet he'll be fine. 0ni is just a girl in love, there's no way she'd do anything bad, she's just misunderstood.
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Miku is next https://twitter.com/DARLI_FRA/status/963654188441001986
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>>168478622
>Oni
>Zero two
>0 ni
I finally got it, fuck I'm retarded
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>>168478886
woah this is the first time I'm hearing that. Oni as 02? That's absolutely genius!
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>>168467506
>they gave it away too soon

They already gave it away with the ending of the ep.




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