What went wrong?
>>169712958Didn't actually rape the tomboy.
>>169712958Didn't actually rape the Rounder.
>>169712958Didn't actually rape the Nekomimi.
>>169712958having a waifu buffet instead of a believeable cast
>>169712958Simple: time travel.
>>169713210This>>169713384And this>>169713475Not this, Feris is for pure love, her ending should have been canon. The future was just as unknown as the steins gate worldline actually.
>>169713650What? That was the best part
>>169713531>VN adaptationWhat the fuck were you expecting?
He saved the wrong girl
>>169712958Generic VN BGM loop as anime BGMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhFGy6bc7zEWhy is this allowed?
>>169719430Because VN adaptations are invariably shit.
having a tranny
>>169713384This, in all timelines its totally justified
>>169712958He left all those versions of Kurisu alone everytime she tried to help him.
>>169712958Not enough Takumi.
Off-model Kurisu in the anime. Fucking atrocious.
Trap dating episode. Other then that not much.
>>169712958play the vn it's miles better>>169721036this is one of the main things, the kurisu i love doesnt have le ebin red hair
>>169712958Nothing. It was a decent VN.
>>169721196thisthe vn is so much better compared to the anime
>>169712958He should have let Ruka stay a woman and married her.Fucking let tuterru die. Smallest price ever for a Ruka you can impregnate.
>>169721939I feel like this is a legit route in the VN, but making her a girl literally kills the most special trait you like about her
I didnt understand the plot.
The Tuturu didnt die.Seriously though why does the Tuturu make me want to see her die a useless death?
>>169723019>>169723119nevermind dont get banned i found it
>>169712958The damn cowards cut out Moeka's route.
>>169722936Because you're a sick piece of shit.
>>169722151It is a legit route in the VN and it's disgusting.
>>169727461Easily the worst ending in the VN.
>>169727461>>169727997Because you can only marry her as a woman?Yeah, I have to agree
>>169728268Copy and pasting from a previous threadThat was far and away the worst of all endings.Okabe is out of character since he already went through the tribulation of taking away his friend's happiness with Faris, and that was even worse as he was metaphysically killing Faris's father to do so. It proves that Lukako is a weak person who would kill Mayuri for the sake of her own happiness, basically putting her on the same level as Moeka, only without the excuse of extreme psychological trauma and dependency. Okabe hooks up with the only person who doesn't make him happy or have any beneficial impact on the world and damns the future to SERN's iron fist forever, meaning Suzuha's entire life was a meaningless failure because Lukako broke a computer.Unlike Suzuha end which has a spark of hope, and Faris end which is an utter mystery, and Mayuri end which still has the meager dream of a happy life at least evading World War III's effects on the world, there is nothing to look forward to in Lukako end. The future is damned, there is no IBN5100 to collect. Okabe's death in 2025 is certain. The resistance against SERN will fail. Everything is awful.
>>169712958Was Nyanyan actual retard?
>>169728368this, luka's ending always struck me as really out of fucking place. nothing could be more out of character for okabe
>>169728368Does anything good ever come out of the existence of traps?
>>169728642Was Nyanyan actually that short? One can only imagine
Too much drama, too little science ever since the Feris-nyan-nyan route.
>>169712958How to fix Steins gate>Have Mayuri die of cancer one year before the actual game happens>T. Grief stricken Okabe that pretends to be a mad scientist to hide his depression.>Remove Moeka, Lukako and Faris.>More focus on Daru and his hacker empire.>More KURISUTINA>Have Daru's Daughter go around killing rounders, she can be completely fucking crazy and apathetic due to SERN brain washing.>More focus on Committee of 300 conspiracies to reduce humanities population to 1 billion.>Okabe crosses world lines combating SERN>Daru is a master hacker in every world line and uses Okabe to gather infomation across worldlines. (With the help of Kurisu he is able to implant a memory card in Okabe's brain that takes his memories across world lines.>Daru is cold and uncaring towards suzuha, instead using her as a ruthless assassin, removing the illuminatis influence in Japan.2nd COUR>Okabe takes control of the Japanese government.>Daru is chief of staff.>T. Legend of the Time-Travelling, Conspiracy Crushing Heroes.Steins gate a shit because the main 'enemy' the committee of 300 is never defeated and instead they just run away from all world lines to the world they like the most, which in the end probably still gets taken over by SERN.
>>169712958So I'm getting into the SciAdv series and so far the only real problem I have is that Chaos;Head won't launch properly. Is the translation issues with CC really bad enough to wait for the PC version even though I have the PS4 version?
>>169712958>fatbro doesn't ntr/mind break all the girlswtf dropped
>>169731654>Cuck;Gate>basically you lose your girl in every timelineAnime worthy
>Maho spent 15 years alone with Okabe in the final Beta timeline, no Mayuri or Assistant, and they never fucked
>>169729127My rock hard boner.
That has to be some of the laziest bait I've ever seen.
>>169713650Name a show/book/movie that does time travel better than steins gate. It is the top of that genre.
>>169734471What's with critics and comparing everything time-travel related to Donnie Darko?Even Steins;Gate got this shit: "It's like somebody taped an episode of The Big Bang Theory over a copy of Donnie Darko"
>>169734471>donnie darko for grownupsHuh? How is that movie not for grownups?
>>169734437Slow down there, mate, I'm a big fan of S;G but even then I'm not retarded enough to declare that line
>>169734803Really, anon? I bet you're still watching cartoons with 30.
>>169712958Too many spin-off.
>>169734899>>169735678Please explain the plot holes that steins gate has.
>>169712958The main character
>>169727997And they tried to retcon that ending in the spin off VN
>>169735956I would, but you haven't sufficiently researched John Titor, CERN, or "Dr. Pepper" so you wouldn't understand the conspiracy.
>>169735956They never do, because they're full of shit or trolling.
>>169736303Those are just references they took to craft the plot, but I'm referring to the perfect time travel mechanic with no paradoxes whatsoever and full closed cycle steins gate presents.
>>1697359561. the inexplicable ability for a phone-microwave to rewind time for the entire world (not just inhabitants of a time machine, as appears later).2. This ability for one person (or a group of people near the phone-microwave) to remember other world-lines, but apparently NOT the future history of the world line they are currently now within. 2. SERN developing said technology and yet not resetting the world to gain what they desire (or doing so in another world line dimension that MC is now unaware of).3. Changing the past is moving a world-line, so time travel to your double past is impossible as you then create a new world-line. John Titor travels to the past twice, and yet reaps the benefits of both time travels in a single world line, impossible per world-line mechanic (travel creates new multi-verse). The paradox is that you would have to already exist within the world line where time travel to the 70's happened before time travel existed to travel into the 70's, and thus time travel to the 2000's reaping those later leaps.The plot-hole could be fixed if time travel to the 70's happened FIRST, then forward time travel to the 2000's to hang with parents happened afterwards, but this diverges from the IRL John Titor plotline the story follows, so it adopts the plot.Even when factoring out paradoxes by the presupposition that everything that can happen does happen, we're left with a story that can only exist within a paradoxical set of world lines that can't retroactively influence one another.
>>169724023There's no Moeka route in the VN? There's one in the drama CDs though.
>>169735956>A fucking man desperate enough to destroy a happiness of a solitude girl and kill a stranger in a sense somehow even consider letting a male remains a female just to marry him not out of love an option>Kurisu doesn't even consider time leaping herself to change the past an option after she knows how Okabe has suffered>Committee of 300 men don't even consider checking out an abnormal satellite look alike object even though they isolate the whole Akibahara area>And then there is that retarded movie with muh reading steiner A few ones, and that's without checking the game or series in a long time, or even checking the whole pseudo science thing
>>169735956>Fucking time leaping Nae without the need of a phone to receive the signal every 2 days
>>169736844>>A fucking man desperate enough to destroy a happiness of a solitude girl and kill a stranger in a sense somehow even consider letting a male remains a female just to marry him not out of love an optionNot a plot hole.>>Kurisu doesn't even consider time leaping herself to change the past an option after she knows how Okabe has sufferedOkabe won't let her.>>Committee of 300 men don't even consider checking out an abnormal satellite look alike object even though they isolate the whole Akibahara areaThey can't fuck with the past too much because it will jeopardize what is a guaranteed future in every Alpha line.>>And then there is that retarded movie with muh reading steinerNon-canon.
>>169737071>Not a plot hole.>Out of character>Not a plot hole>Okabe won't let her.>Fucking man stays out of the lab for days>Won't let her>They can't fuck with the past too much because it will jeopardize what is a guaranteed future in every Alpha line.>Implying they know the fucking future at this point> the plot holes that steins gate has.>The movie has the literal S;G in the name>Non-canon.>Because it's oh so convenient to deny something
>>169736756Lmao, is this bait? The entire plot flew over your head
>>169737253>Out of characterApart from that being a non-canon alternate ending, he just breaks at that point. He can't take any more.>Fucking man stays out of the lab for days>Won't let herDude he literally snatches the scanner away from her when Mayuri is first killed. He doesn't want the others to suffer like he has so he makes it very clear that they shouldn't use the thing.>Implying they know the fucking future at this pointAs well as being unwise, it's literally impossible to stop Suzu's incomplete machine from arriving in and leaving 2010 unmolested by Rounders. She must make it to 1975.
>>169712958Nothing Stein's;Gate is great.
>>169738019It was boring and formulaic.
>>169738698Like your mom.
it was never explained
>>169736756Man you got so much wrong.1. The microwave's inner walls don't change the entire world, they behave like a flawed time machine. Gelbanas don't cause world line shifts. D-Mails are information being sent to the past, they only change the world if the person that received them changes the world.2. Convergence. Future knowledge is a weapon, but cannot change the future on its own.2 (2) (can you even count). They only use failure time machines and send out jellymen which does not meaningfully change the past.3. There is only one world. Changing the world line only alters the frequency the world is upon. There is no multiverse. There is no paradox. You can't meet your time traveling past self if you're only time traveling because of your past self, as you didn't run into yourself the first time, and so it has to be on another world line.>The plot-hole could be fixed if time travel to the 70's happened FIRST, then forward time travel to the 2000's to hang with parents happened afterwardsThis is so fucking stupid. Suzuha was in the 70s before Okabe was even born. The entire world line is shaped from past to present at the instant of time travel. Paradoxes cannot occur."Sets" of world lines do not exist. World lines are only possibilities with a single one being actualized at any given time. The only way influence can spread from one to another is through Reading Steiner.
>>169719430Not even a VN track you autist
>>169721939>RukaHow can you be this new?
>>169729222Nope. Canonical name is Faris NyanNyan (yes, with the capital N, and no, there's no dash. Only Robotics;Notes DaSH.)>>169730451Are you launching using Japanese Locale (or Locale Emulator)? And are you using the Di-Patch?
>>169736756>1Except that's literally not what's happening. It is not doing that on it's own.>2. This ability for one person (or a group of people near the phone-microwave) to remember other world-lines, but apparently NOT the future history of the world line they are currently now within.Expanded upon in 0.>2 (2) This is not possible, at least not using Steins;Logic. Would be possible using ChäoS;Logic, but then again, everything is possible to explain using ChäoS;Logic. Even the dreadful movie.
The only thing that went wrong with S;G is that it was just unlucky to be in the same year as Madoka. It's just tough to air in the shadow of a masterpiece like Madoka.
>>169745010But S;G is better than Madoka.
>>169712958Kagari's entire existence.
>>169738698Here, have a (You)
>>169745476I wonder why anyone thought she was a good idea.
>>169747185My theory always goes she was Okabe and Kurisu's daughter or smth, but that would've been a major fuckup and could just not remove her at that point in the writing of the plot, so they made her related to Mayuri instead.
>>169747261I remember thinking she was Kurisu as a kid when I first saw her.
>>169747261Her role had always been related to Mayuri since the start of the writing.Fun thing is, we used to speculate that she ended up being Kurisu's mom.
>>169747185>>169747261She was the antagonist in the story Zero recycled.
>>169747261>>169747396I'm pretty sure the whole point was literally just to bait people into thinking one of these things. Why else make her look so similar? What a dumb fucking gimmick.
>>169747493Yes, she was in the novel trilogy, but we didn't even know about her whereabouts until the third/late of the second novel.
>>169744444I love Serika!
>>169747534It's a pretty lame way to try and capitalise on a popular heroine.
>>169747534It's even dumber when she tells you she used surgery to look like Yuki
Rounders are monitoring this thread.
One last bump because I love Steins;Gate.
>>169744250Yes, I just get a black screen with audio when I launch it. I have both K-lite and CCCP installed so I think if one was causing it the other would fix the issue.
Suzuha = best character
>>169752032The side characters were far more likeable than the main cast. Main cast was really poorly developed
>>169753701What side characters even exist other than Nae and 4°C? I wouldn't consider even Tennouji being a side character.
>>169754609I was referring to lab members with numbers above 4. ex. Feyris
>there are people who actually thought Stein's Gate wasn't forgettable trashW E W
>>169754979Faris is there as lamest waifubait, also she gets a tiny arc and nobody cares much for her.Luka is cute and all, but traps are hit or missMoeka is fine in ZeroAnd Suzu is fine as well.the rest of the Zero cast sucks desu. except for Yuki Because Daru is the fucking champ
>>169754979Faris and Lukako may be not completely critical other than being friends of the main character, but Moeka is crucial to the plot as it stands.
>>169712958Not enough Suzuha
>>169755250Well, desu, I actually think it fell apart when S;G was milked nostop with re-releases of shit we've already seen and other bullshit, non-canon alt-timeline one-offs that left everyone unsatisfied,Instead of cute shit like Mayuris life, story and thoughts in the SG worldline knowing she lost to Kurisu, or Kurisus and Okabes relationship furthering (the cancelled LN was a travesty in this regard. Undoing the true end of the VN with them floating further apart? BULLSHIT) or my absolute favourite:SUZUHA.Smol child Suzu being outfitted in maid clothes by her otaku parents.Child Suzu learning martial arts from Nae-nee-san.Suzuha, the adorable tomboy, going to school. Driven there by best uncle.emotional scenes with Suzuha and Okabe, with Suzuha seeing nightmares of past time lines/Okabe having flashbacks and the other comforting them, saying it's ok now.That they've reached it. Steins Gate.
>>169730441>main 'enemy' the committee of 300 is never defeatedthis is the only thing I didn't like, I really expected them to appear sometime
>>169755903i'll guess in another SciAdv iteration they might show up.
>>169721230Asuka is shit and she’ll never be as good of a tsundere as Kurisu
>>169726317Mayuri is useless except for fucking and dying
>>169755103>I have shit taste: the post
>>169749628I want to FUCK Nae so much, Jesus Christ
>>169755723excellent taste desu
>>169737941>Apart from that being a non-canon alternate ending, he just breaks at that point. He can't take any more.No, he didn't, he only breaks after Mayuri's death after deciding not to send that dmail in Luka ending, even Kurisu encourages him to get Luka to tell him her mother pager and undo it without telling Luka>Dude he literally snatches the scanner away from her when Mayuri is first killed. He doesn't want the others to suffer like he has so he makes it very clear that they shouldn't use the thing.Unrelated to the point, what he wants matter not, he doesn't meet her even once after telling her of her death and stays out of the lab until he meets her again, he doesn't even tell her to not use the machine, she just conveniently forgets the machine and calls it there's no option but for him to return to Beta>As well as being unwise> it's literally impossible to stop Suzu's incomplete machine from arriving in and leaving 2010>>literally doing nothing despite the well established fact that they will do anything to achieve their goal>>then finally they remembered this plot hole and tried to fix that with the whole WWIII on rooftop thing in 0, but this time with another organization and Okabe's group is not under the radar from the beginningSo it's a plot hole and you're just pulling out new excuses after someone points it out, thank you very much
How badly will she ruin the 0 anime?
>>169712958Didn't actually rape the Midget.
>>169764662I want to take this insecure little onahole and mindbreak her with my cock until she turns retarded while reminding her she will never be as good as Kurisu. Then I want to use Amadeus to wipe her memories and do it all again.
>>169764026>implying there's anything left to be ruined
Why are opinions so mixed on 0? I've seen people call it better than the first game and some say its a bad sequel.
>>169765230Because the internet will laugh at you if you praise something. We all have to be absolutely pessimistic cynics at all times and examples of media can only ever be completely awful drivel or glorious masterpieces with no in-betweens.To answer with more directness, because people are different and opinions vary naturally on all subjects, especially on an anonymous vietnamese fingerpainting forum.
>>169765230>>169765311Honestly speaking, I enjoyed 0 as much as the original, and even more in some ways. But a lot of that has to do with the fact that I’m already invested in this universe, so to see what was initially a small, contained story get expanded on such a large scale was a nice touch for me. I really enjoy the world building and the concepts added to the science of this world. That said, I don’t consider 0 to be as good as the original but I was still satisfied.
>>169765230I'm not going to go and shit on anyone for liking it, but it has a lot of issues I just couldn't get into. Many characters were lackluster or irrelevant, a lot of early plot threads were just dropped without any relevance, one character in particular was pretty much synonymous with a shitty twist or scene in every single route, and even the art was mostly a downgrade from the original.It had its good moments, some of which were amazing, but the the lows were really low, and the rest was just average.
>>169765230People are hyping it too much, and then flip their shit when it didn't meet their expectation.
>>169765230VA would be downright extremely good if not for those Kagari plot's involving momentsAnd it would be a better experience if you change from PR to VA right after Kyouma revives
>>169765230It didn't live up to the hype.
>>169712958It got a good adaptation instead of Chaos;Child
>>169769365Don't remind me.
My virtual dead girlfriend AI: the anime soon. Do you have any hopes it will turn our good?
>>169770607I'm pessimistic but ready to be pleasantly surprised.
>>169770682Honestly, S;G having the best adaptation really feels like a fluke than something that seems repeatable.
>>169770969It's increasingly feeling like that for me too. Robotics;Notes was underwhelming but I thought that was just a bit of bad luck. But then they pushed out Occultic;Nine and Chaos;Child afterwards and things aren't looking good now.
>>169771036Given 2 cours, I think a C;C adaptation could've been done well.