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>>169745832We're 7 episodes in and I still have no idea what this show's doing. I can't care about anything that's happening, the only reason I'm watching is to get some fucking answers.How am I supposed to empathize with this protagonist? I have no idea why he's doing anything.Why is there a dead loli in a computer on the moon?What was even the point of half of these episodes? I feel like I've learned nothing for at least half of them. Was the 2 episodes for Dan really necessary?What's Nero's motivations?Who is Rin?Why is this Grail War going on?What the fuck is even going on anymore?
>>169745832Why do subs take so much time? DO YOUR JOB YOU FUCKING CHINKS.
unsettling episode all around
>>169745832Does it say Umu? Is there a counter?>>169746427Because somehow this show is so bad that people get bored of subbing it. Maybe SHAFT would have done better if they weren't animating that shogi boy show at the same time.
>>169746427Welcome to TM. I am still waiting for the Mahoyo translation.
Fucking amazing episode, only for this, it's my favorite Fate anime, fucking Shaft man
>>169746427The cabal killed all non payed for or official subs in the west. Anime, even slightly popular anime, will never again gain a small following of dedicated teens and adults who should know better who will sub it perfectly for the particular social group they are a part of.Hell, the last time anon subbed an anime together was TTGL and that was a loli's age ago.
>>169746388Because this show is made for those who played the game, not for fucking secondaries
>>169746388Fuck you faggot be impressed with the madoka backgrounds
>>169747159He must be blinding himself so he can shit on the episode
>>169747154Nasu literally said he wants secondaries to be able to enjoy thisI've read F/SN too so I'm really a primary-and-a-half
>>169747470He lied. He does that.
>>169747470Not Nasu's fault if you can't think for yourself, we got a lot of anwser this episode but you must be too stupid to understand something, also pointing only what you hate about the episode like it was garbage just show that you are irrelevant. Just drop it the anime if you want to only spit on it when this episode was incredible.
>>169747470What Nasu wants to do and what he ends up doing are often entirely different things.
>>169747470Because that's what you're supposed to say otherwise secondaries and people who care about secondaries will try and get you to change stuff.If you lie as say "haha, don't worry this will be accessible to everyone :^)" then you get to make what you want and by the time they realized you've fucked the secondaries over like the trash they are, it's too late to change
Glad Nursery Rhyme being a mindfuck is still in the show.
>>169747536I never said it was garbage, I did go overboard a bit thereI'm still enjoying it, but I just wish it had some grounding in reality. Shiki and Shirou worked well as protagonists because they were complex characters but still relateable, they had lives you could understand from the beginning.Here I just can't bring myself to get attached to the characters since I can't understand them
>>169747768Because the audience is not supposed to be attached to him by now.Like this episode had said, dead face is similar to zombies, mindless and driven by hate. It is very difficult to get attached to a zombie.
>>169747154It absolutely is not. It completely shits on everything in the game from the setting to the characters. This may have worked in kinoko's mind or even on his paper, but after leaving out the MCs inner thoughts that over 50% of extra/CCC consists of you're left with a mess. Anime is a completely different medium that the guy has no experience in. It doesn't help that shaft is completely incapable of animating more than tops a couple frames per minute of air time.
>>169746388>I have no idea why he's doing anything.He's fighting in a grail war, trying to understand what's going on just like you.>Why is there a dead loli in a computer on the moon?That's just an image, Alice is dead on earth. Her ghost is now wandering inside Moon Cell.>What was even the point of half of these episodes? Flesh out the setting and the characters, even if a bit.>I feel like I've learned nothing for at least half of them. You aren't paying enough attention.>Was the 2 episodes for Dan really necessary?Yes, because he's an enemy Master. Even then, he didn't get 2 episodes to himself. At best he got half an episode. The rest went to Rani, Hakuno, the setting and the fight.>What's Nero's motivations?She's a shit whore, she has nothing.>Who is Rin?A Master who lost her Servant. She wants to clear the Grail War for some personal reason, we haven't been told that yet. She is particularly interested in "Dead Face", she's slowly leading Hakuno into something. She can also apparently turn into a Servant, in a fashion similar to Grand Order's Mashu.>Why is this Grail War going on?Because no one won it. It stagnated for a 1000 years. Part of that was Shinji stopping all fighting, part of that is something that happened on the floor above, that discouraged Masters from fighting. What that is, we don't know yet.>What the fuck is even going on anymore?The Grail War resumed, so progress. Masters are fighting and dying, half of the Grail War has been cleared.
>>169748515You're just too fucking stupid, Hakuno got a lot of character development this episode and got a lot of thoughts, also his personnality didn't change so if you really played the games which i doubt, you would realise that he doesn't need character development again since he already got one in the games
>>169748515>leaving out the MCs inner thoughtsEh, I didn't play Extra, but he gets A LOT of internal monologue. I rarely ever see characters who think to themselves this much in anime.
Best episode so far desu
So Nursery Rhyme was the book that Hakuno was carrying right? Because it also disappeared when Alice, it's mana source died, or am i completely wrong?
>>169749739You are correct.
Episodes 6 and 7 were really good, too bad subs are dying. If I had to make a complain, I'd say the fight by the end, all that dimming killed the scene.
>>169749806Blame Pikachu. Or just wait for the Netflix raws.
Happy Hakuno has a motivation other than NIKUI nowThese past two episodes have done the best job at developing both the enemy Master and HakunoHope they can keep it up. Next Master is Julius, right?
What I didn't like about this episode was Rin being all ''I don't want to use my trump card" to then go TRON mode and Gay Bulge Alice out of nowhere.
>>169749974Julius or Amari/empty floor.I wonder how Julius will be handled. In the games, Hakuno sympathizes with him the most, even crying at his death. In LE, Leo seems to be dead, so what does that mean for Julius, whose sole purpose in life was to protect Leo?
I liked this episode, but Nasu really needs to stop the Alice suffering, I already feel bad for killing her in Extra, I didn't want to watch her turn into a monster.
>>169750083Julius will also be in monster form like Alice after he an hero'ed himself because he couldn't protect Leo. Which will truly turn the series in a monster of the week format.
>>169750083>Leo seems to be deadIs this another one of those dumb theories with nothing behind it?
>>169750083>“The sound of rain whittles away memory. Mist clouds the senses. Death blows through the City of Heavy Rainfall. Even now the mad scorpion continues to wait for only one person.”Depends on whether he's waiting for Leo or Hakuno.
>>169750083Li is a Berserker here, so it could be something similar to when Julius came back after being defeated in the gameBut I don't know where you got Leo being dead from. At the very least, Gawain has appeared in a CM so I'm assuming Leo is with him
>>169750305As it's been pointed out before, the events of the games took place a 1000 years ago, but there were slight variations. So it's too crazy to assume the events that led to Li turning into a Berserker also happened.
Might as well post them all>“The pirate laughed gracefully. Farewell to arms, and lay the guns to rest. A festival in the calm of the sea immersed in the past, the remains of the Pied Piper’s dream. The Sea of Stagnation welcomes visitors.”>“The dead unrevived, the pride unable to be inherited, [his] face gone. The hunter dances on with the ghosts. The ticking of the clock resounds in the stillness. [He] continues to wander the Forest of Regrets”>“The Garden of Forgetfulness repeats. A scream (fairytale) echoing in thin ink. An examination table, a tea party, and a story left behind.”>“The sound of rain whittles away memory. Mist clouds the senses. Death blows through the City of Heavy Rainfall. Even now the mad scorpion continues to wait for only one person.”>“The victorious lost sight of life. The defeated lost sight of death. There are two beats in the coronary world. No one remains to speak of the Unlimited—-” >“The king reached completion and fell asleep. The knight waited for his awakening, gathering rust. The day breaks at the end of the seven heavens. Onwards, to the Spire of the Sun.“
>>169750370>“The Garden of Forgetfulness repeats. A scream (fairytale) echoing in thin ink. An examination table, a tea party, and a story left behind.”That was more literal than I would've guessed. If the rest are as literal as this, I can see Leo being dead.
>>169748796>shadow of the head;_;
>>169750370Where did you get that from
>>169750173>Slutfox pretending to be relevant
Does anyone have stitches of Rin and Saber from this episode?
So why did Alice/NR appeared at the end of the episode?It's as she said, and she can't die? Or was it NR? The sort-of-Reality Marble was still up
>>169752064That was her looking at Hakuno right as she was dying. Or getting deleted? I'm not sure if ghosts can die.
>still no redmanGetting real tired of this shit, when is EMIYA showing up?
D-did Rin take a bath alongside Hakuno and Nero? They were all wiping themselves with towels at the same time.
>>169752312>Nero involvedObviously she hosted an orgy, learn the history murricuck.
>>169745832Is she OK?
WHERE IS HAKUNON
>>169747470I enjoy that a lot especially after having completed Apocrypha.
>>169752202I'm not really sure she was dying. She said the system didn't need to kill her, because she was already dead. Also, the elevator was there all the time.
>>169752312Yes, remember episode 4
I´ll stick with the spic subs, seeing how bad their mistranslations can get is one of the few things that keep me watching
>>169751009>sticker>1000 years>paw markShe is coming and you will like it>>169752305Nero rekt him in the 1st episode
>>169746388>I have no idea why he's doing anything.Hatred,
So was Amari Nursery Rhyme all along? Or was that just an illusion.
>>169752826>laniette>nazary liam>inb4 nishuen
Alice doesn't deserve all the suffering she's been through.
>>169753211dont forget about Toasu Pisman
>>169753211It's pronounced "Rishobun" in nipWe'll probably have sub arguments about this too
>>169752305He broke into pieces with a smug look. Have the Blacked version.
>>169752954Seems to me that Amari when she was talking to Rin was the real AmariAlso was the real Amari when she was talking to Hakuno last ep When Amari showed up at the table to talk to Hakuno this episode, and later on was Nursery Rhyme
>>169753246You don't venture in Madokaland and expect no suffering.
>>169752954Both.There is a Master named Amari Misao. She did talk to Rin. She did talk to Hakuno. You can also see Amari in this scene. She's the only one who survives Alice's attack. The three males get killed, but Amari presumably runs away.And Nursery Rhyme also used Amari as her disguise. When Nursery wanted to talk to Hakuno directly, she took on Amari's form, for no apparent reason.
Why was RIn able to become Cu?
>>169753535Detroit Emiya is a sub 60 IQ nigger who got outplayed by a woman who casually killed herself because why not.
being Alice is suffering
>ED kicks in as Alice sees Hakuno and starts crying
>a Fate series that isn't blatant shounen waifubait that Urobutcher, Apocrypha and F/GO turned franchise into>Fate "fans" don't translate itnot really surprising though desu, most Fate "fans" don't actually like Nasu's work unless it's DEE-BEE-ZEE Servant powerlevels and titties. This applies in Japan as well, though.
>>169754335It's even worse in Japan.
>>169754335don't even remind me
>>169754456I mean it's still fucking dumb that King Arthur is a woman and the only reason she's a woman is because the original game was an eroge.
>>169754335Nero??She is the only servant with importance in the series. The other servants barely appreciate or are developed
>>169754335>>169754598And the eroge part was just something to pull in horny viewers for extra bucks.They were not expecting the story to blow up in popularity.
>>169754452Not at all, as a proof this episode was in trending on the twitter jap because japaneses liked it a lot.
>>169754598>it's still fucking dumbis it thoughgender equality wasn't really a thing in the medieval ages, you can easily see women pretending to be men on occasion, see Mary ShelleyJust because Takeuchi came up with the idea because he wanted it to be an eroge, doesn't mean it detracts from the story
>>169754598The only reason she's a woman is because Takeuchi gets what he wantsAnd he wanted a cute girl in armor
>>169754810>Takeuchi wants Saber>Proceeds to draw every girl to look like SaberToo bad that's not what I want.
>>169754686This episode would be popular here too if we actually had subs on time, it was just that good.Doesn't change that 80% of the Japanese Fate "fans" haven't even touched the VN. The vast majority of FGO players don't even touch the story and just waste their money on waifubait.
>>169754736it was dumb from the start. But it got completely fucking idiotic when Mordred came in to the mix.
>>169754928>The vast majority of FGO players don't even touch the story and just waste their money on waifubaitNot that I disagree with you but let's be honest the original VN was an eroge where you played to fuck your waifu of that route. So let's not bash F/go when it's finally starting to invest some effort into the story which isn't completely terrible.
>>169755154Have (You)r smug redman and go.
>>169754939>Takeuchi: Mordred is great. She is the crowning achievement of the culture that Type-Moon has created. Don't you agree, Nasu Kinoko-kun?
>>169754928And you think F/SNfags are some group of deep, intellectual people only in it for the rich story? Get over yourself. It was the waifus that sold that shit. People loved Saber, Rin and to a lesser degree Sakura. That's what got series off its feet, not FAGGOTS like Shirou.
>>169755154>>169755349yes yes we get it no story involving sex can ever be taken seriously and all the highest rated works of literature involve no sex at all i mean look at pynchon does he ever write about sex no i don't fucking think so
>>169755349Stop saying bullshit the eroge scenes where cringy bad nobody played for them FSN VN was praised because of how masterpice it was that's all.
>>169755349Okay there are people who have been Shiroufags since the translation so this is a lie
>>169755442It's not just the sex. Change Saber, Rin and Sakura into males, remove all romance. See if this shit sells. It won't. Peopled the waifus. Rin and Saber in particular have incredibility iconic designs. People wanted to fuck them, or at least romance them. That's what they got out the game. The story, it was an extra bonus, unnecessary for the most part.There's a reason Rin and Saber, two bland fucking characters, top the polls, while muh Shirou is low enough to be beaten by newcomers like Nero. The vast majority give no fucks about muh serious plot. They like waifus. That's what Fate has been about from the beginning.
>>169755611Rin was never bland. WHAT are these memes?
So is this better than Apo? Should I pick it up?
>>169755737Do like action? If so, don't pick it. There's hardly any here. It's mostly just dialogue.Do you like Servants? If so, don't pick it. It's like the Heaven's Feel of Extra, Servants have little role and die fast, while human characters are explored more thoroughly.
>>169755737It's the best Fate anime, Kaleid is a bad adaptation, UBW is a really bad adaptation, Zero is a edgy bullshit, weirdly the only one which isn't trying to be an adaptation is the best.
>>169755611>Rin and Saber in particular have incredibility iconic designsand Archer, Lancer and Gil don't?No shit it's not as good without the romance, it's a key part of the story and works well to complement the themes.Yes a lot of people bought it because they wanted the romance. Doesn't mean they didn't enjoy an incredible story as well
>>169755737I really like it so far
>>169755611What makes you think the fujos wouldn't eat that shit up?>>169755737Pretty much anything can be better than Apo. You have literally nothing to lose by watching a few episodes to see if you like it.
>>169755811>Zero is edgy bullshitDoesn’t change the fact that it’s easily the best Fate anime.
>>169755611>Shirou is low enough to be beaten by newcomers like Nerobut Archer is usually ranked 2nd.
>>169748603It's sad you needed to explain this to someone Anon.
>>169755878That's not hard considering how badly UBW was adapted
>>169755826>it's not as good without the romance, it's a key part of the storyTo be fair, it's really not. Fate route gets the most shit on /a/ for its boring, cheesy romance, and UBW gets called Archer route, due to Rin's insignificant role. The one whose romance is actually tied to the story and not that bad, Sakura, she's the least popular of the three heroines.>>169755888I think he's referring to the 10th(?) anniversary poll. Archer wasn't 2nd.
>>169755878When you have to adapt only 4 volumes of course it is, still as a LN it's one of the worst original source Fate because of how short it is.
>>169755611>see if this shit sellsIt probably would with all the fujoshi now desu
>>169755991Please HF is considered by many as inferior to UBW despite not having Rin main focus because of how bad Sakura and Shirou romance is, the only thing that saved HF are Illya and Kirei.
>>169756067HF is the canon route as confirmed by Nasu.
>>169756015According to recent polls, 27% of FGO players are female. That includes both otomefags and fujos. That roughly puts fujos at about 13.5% of all players. I doubt that'll lead to much of a success.
>>169756092There is no cannon route you Fag, you must be one of those Zero edgy fag who thing that's since HF is the closest to being tied with Zero it's the best when not at all, HF is bad and UBW is a masterpiece, go away you edgy fag
>>169756094And? He said if you replace the women cast, it won't sell and I'm saying there's a possibility it would. What amount of fujoshi currently like it is irrelevant because the cast hasn't been changed.
>>169756092Shirou loses his body, gets a puppet body in HF. He's incapable of having kids and have lost his magic circuits now. Anything that shows him having a body of a human, that makes HF non-canon.
>>169756175Also no one said anything about GO to begin with.
>>169756067>Please HF is considered by many as inferior to UBWShounenfags actually believe this.
>>169756154>>169756362t. secondariesNasu explicitly called HF the true route of FSN in the VN. Of course, this was retconned later when he decided to milk Fate for all it’s worth.
>>169756362>He's incapable of having kids and have lost his magic circuits now.Did you even read the ending? He can even use UBW if he trains enough.Why is this fanbase filled with speedreaders?
>>169752230Unf. Maybe I shouldn't have dropped this after episode 3
>>169757024Why did you drop?
>>169756872>He can even use UBWwhat the fuck are you talking aboutShirou specifically CANNOT use UBW in HFIt's symbolizing Shirou straying from the path of Archer
>>169757065Wrong. Rin mentions that if he trains, he can regain UBW.
>>169757053I don't like Nero that much, and I prefer more real-world settings rather than weirdo digital universes, (even though Shaft scenery is good).
>>169746388here, for you dumb dumb.use your code to read on other languages other than portuguese.
>>169757065Kill yourself immediately
>>169757140oh shit I suck cocksignore me
>>169757161That's fair, I guess. Perhaps you could give it another try but if the setting fails to hook you up, then it can't be helped.
>>169757024It's worth watching for the Rin service
It's so fking boring and full of itselfIs this gonna be 13 episodes right? Can't see it going longer with the pacing it has
>>1697578632 cour, but the first cour and the second cour have two different titles so it is technically a 13 episode for this Hakuno
>>16975786313 episodes + one special episode>>169757973>/u/fags still making shit up
>>169757209Fuck off ronaldo.
>>169758022The amount of special episode is still unspecified, right? Any sources for it to be 1 episode only?But since SHAFT and TypeMoon fucked up their allotted time already, the last three episodes will probably go for a Internet release, so who cares anyway
After exposing myself to Zero and all of the FSN routes, I feel like any other Grail War won't bring anything new to the table. Not even Last Encore or Apocrypha feels interesting.
>>169758291Well what made FSN good wasn't the grail war itself, so that makes sense.
>>169757596>Rin Cudoes this mean she's going to die?
>>169758291Don't comparer LE to this shit of Apocrypha it's insulting
>>169747618Being a boring doll more like it. Jesus Christ this show is boring.
>>169758599Your life must be pretty boring too if you're still here then.
>>169758633Hey I'm killing time at work. Besides at this point I'm watching for Nero's ass.
>>169758777It's not even the good kind of ass. It's an ass kind of ass.
>Rin casually transforms into Cu and Gae Bolgs NRwhat is even going on
>>169758777That's fine, but aren't there better things to kill your time with? I'm sure there's something out there you find more entertaining than this you could kill time with.
>>169758890If the 2nd cour is another 13 episodes that would make a lot of senseNasu always goes for the near side / far side methodso hopefully the 2nd cour will explain what the shit is happening
>>169752230>>169757596Rin is so fucking sexy in this show, I'm a new fan.
Fucking hell Nursery Rhyme too CUTEI WANT TO NP5 HERLONDON RATE UP IS GOING ON RIGHT? HOW MUCH MONEY WILL I NEED TO SPEND TO GET HER 5 TIMES?
Where the webms/spreads of Rin being super hot are?
>>169758882Eh. I prefer the sporty kind of ass. As opposed to the big fat kind.>>169758956Watching a decent show kills about 20mins per episode. As per why I'm here. Some of you bastards are funny.
>>169752727That's not an ass-window anymore, that's a full ass-Rashomon gate
>>169752230My fucking DICKI may hate some shit of what Shaft is doing but, fucking hell, they know how to fanservice.
>>169758882Are you a raging homosexual? Her ass looks pretty fine to me.
>>169759169If you're having fun with the threads then that's fine, I guess. I just have a hard time understanding why would someone stick to something he considers boring or annoying.
>>169759269To be fair that looks like just a part of her leg
>>169756644Were you even paying attention to what he said? There's no retcon it's the canon ending to fate stay night as story (as in thematically) which it is that's why it requires you have read the other two routes before and has the largest climax.it was never the "canon" route. Not once what was that ever stated.
>>169759269This window wide enough even to shit freely.
>>169757126That's also wrong why on earth are you talking Rin's word for this? She knows jack shit. He can attain a reality marble maybe but ti'd be entirely different.
>>169759476It'd just be a different version of UBW you retard. Even UBW Shirou has a different UBW, the anime made it obvious as all hell. Prisma Shirou too.
>>169759615UBW is something he atains by living his life as a sword and is completely and ultterly linked with his ideal. That's why Shirou himself in HF considers UBW (his body made out of swords) to be killing as a consequence of throwing away the ideal.it's also why he's unable to use UBW in the route himself. The reality marble would be completely different.
I want to fuck Alice
>>169759779Alice is for having tea parties with, not sex.
>>169759731Living his life as a sword and his ideals are entirely separate things. He will never stop living as a sword, it's his origin, HF Shirou just becomes Sakura's sword instead.His RM is Unlimited Blade Works, it will have different variations but it will always be a RM about making swords. The thing in HF was about EMIYA's UBW in particular, he cannot use it because it doesn't represent HF Shirou's inner world. HF Shirou would just have a different UBW.
>>169759812we could have sex after drinking aphrodisiac tea
>>169759342I just skip over parts with mc and the Loli now. Like I did with fate apocrypha.
>>169759892No they're not did you even read the damn VN.Come on now Nasu litterally hits you over the head with this shit. UBW as it exists is a sword graveyard a place where Shirou fruitless chases his ideal but never attains. It's his ideal it was always his ideal it was never anything other than his ideal. The mere fact the ideal is completely gone means UBW goes with it. it'd be something else entirely. It'd still be sword based but it wouldn't be UBW. That's why UBW Shirou could use it but HF couldn't. They're mindsets are entirely different. UBW is a content Archer HF isn't archer at all.Shirou's affinity for a sword is not the same as UBW those swords that were killing him and resulted in him ditching his former body? That was UBW. UBW is a projection of his mind, his change in ideal means that projection changes with it.
>>169759812I Want to say Alice is for protecting but there is nothing to protect.
>>169760237Put it this way the chant that Archer and UBW shirou use doesn't in any way describe HF Shirou. Like not the first few lines are applicable anymore, for all intents they are entirely different people.
>>169759269Would be better with shimipan
Bless you, Shaft.
>>169760629How is Rin so hot?
Did they get actual children to sing those nursery rhymes?
>>169760746She gives off an impression of being easy, which excites the dick
>>169760912>Cherry BrossomMy sides
>>169759110Her next rate-up will be for the prisma-illya collab with Illya, Helena and Medea Lily. Just save until then.
>>169761147How long till that. I need to roll.
This was unsettling. Kids singing always creeps me the fuck out.
>>169761147Sheit, the Loli Squared banner.Gonna wait, when is Illya banner?
>>169761204>>169761295If they're following the jp schedule that would be right after the summer event and Camelot release so at least 6 months to wait.
>>169759110Do it faggot
>>169761459The story of my lifeI can't understand HOW I keep seeing people going>well I'm a F2P player so I ONLY have 400 SQ and 60 tickets what can I doWhat the fuck nigga
>>169761453That's enough time. I can do it. My will will not falter.
>>169761536I know right?
>>169761607>>169761536>I'm super F2P, never spent a cent!>W-what? Show you how many of my SQ are paid quartz? S-sorry I just spent all of them, they were all free, of courseSTOP LYING NIGGAYOU USED YOUR CC
>Apex abandoned us>Only options for subs are speedsubs or a frog pretending it can speak English
>>169761658Best part is when they finally bust their nut and still come up empty.
>>169761782A friend of mine spent 180 quartz on Dontes banner. He got 4 Sumanais.FOUR
How can Rin use a fucking Gae Bolg?
>>169761702>a frog pretending it can speak englishWhat?
>>169762048I like my Dantes, got him to NP2 in just 30 pulls.Too bad he's quick based and Jalter is absurdly better.
>>169762025What? You can't? Jesus you're pathetic.
How angry would you say this man is?
Nasu was straight up lying, there's no fucking way someone who didn't play the game could understand this episode
Alright so Saber remembers the grail war she fought with Hakunon and lost to Twice. Also we now know for a fact that another verision of Hakuno (who admited to being a fake) has been to the Grail war before. This shit is weird.
>>169762304And that apparently that Hakuno used Suzuka Gozen.
>>169762304Fuck you. He is no fake.
>>169762234I didn't mind if I take a guess.Caster is using the plot of groundhogs day. Whenever the monster is defeated they return to the beginning. Alice is the projection of the coma lady. And since she's unwilling to die the master's are forced to repeat the day. And in order to beat caster you'd have to help her or coma embrace death or move on.Some thing like that?
How are Kooritsukai?
>>169762745You tell me.>>169750667
>>169762800What compels a man to do this.
>>169750667That shit was funny but the rest of the subs like in >>169761232 was almost Hadena level
Hakunon is on a spiritual journey through the Moon-cell purifying the resentment, curses, sadness and RONERINESS of all the masters which were a microcosm of all mankind. The storytelling is disjointed because the journey itself is non-linear and the concept of "ascending" is merely a more accessible visual of what's going on in a literary way similar to how Dante Spaghettios depicted going through the circles of Hell as Descent or rising through Purgatory to be Ascending. Instead of presenting a storyline about Servants shooting beamspam at each other, Nasu was going for an enlightening experience bringing the reader through the rungs of the cyber-afterlife with Rin, the Wise Guide (whose destiny will be merely to show the way without personally ever reaching the bliss of the final floor), and also there's UMU who is there because otaku only buy Fate stuff if it has a Seiba in it.
>>169745832Was on the verge of dropping this, but this episode hooked me back in.
Call me a pleb for this, but trying to paint a Fate story like it's Madoka Magica won't suddenly make it great. Yay corpses, yay Inucurry, but it still won't change the fact that this is just another Grail War.
>>169762907Don't rape the book
>>169763755They have the opportunity to make something different for each floor, why not ?
>>169763755Say a lot of things, but this does NOT feel like just another fate story at all.
>>169764350>>169764404But it still involves a Grail War. Fate doesn't seem like the kind of story that has to be constrained within the confines of a Grail War. How many serious stories did not involve a Grail whatsoever? Off the top of my head, it's just the adventures of older Waver.
these subs any good?
>>169752499Boss of the 6th floor. She's the victorious that lost sight of life.
>>169764570beggars can't be choosers
>>169764657Nasu twist: The opening scene in the anime with Hakuno FeMC actually takes place during the final episode. FeMC is on the final floor and travels with them to fight Buddha but loses her legs. Nero fights Buddha but loses as well. Hakuno becomes deadman and finally wins, thus ending humanity or whatever. Since it turns out Twice was trying to save humanity that was about to die out and Earth is already dead.
>>169765179In the cover Nero is upside down crying, I was thinking about this possibility as well, would be pretty fucking sad ending this way with humanity dead and Hakuno not being able to be with Nero.
How are you even suppose to make sense of these past 2 episodes. Someone explain this shit.
>>169765873What you don't understand exactly anon ?>>169764570pretty decent
>>169745832>mp4 hardsubsOk, when are the *good* subs coming out?
>>169754335nobody wants to translate fate stuff because the fanbase is incredibly autistic about certain things, and also fansubbing is dead in general
>>169766148The .ass file is there too m8
>>169766148https://nyaa.si/view/1015179 he uploaded a .ass if that's you're talking about, if it's about chyuu probably friday.>>169766181People wanted to raid Chyuu because of Praetor stuff, and you're right fansubbing is completely dead I don't get when people want crunchyroll to die now dependings on fansubs sucks.
>>169757126Conjecture from the whore, there is no evidence he will ever be able to use UBW.
>>169766148>super cute Servant>get the worst artist ever to draw herwhy
Holy fuck that was a good episode. Finally at the turning point most likely.
>>169766716>good episode>no NIKUI
>>169766603Because Keitarou Takahashi is a great character designer but not that good at illustrating >Implying he is worst than TakaoHER NAME IS KOKO SHE IS LOCO I SAY OH NO
>>169762195Literally Sieg with Edgelord powers
>>169766742He's KIBOU now
>>169766603I know it's ugly but I love the faces this artist makes with her
>>169766950she was cute in the event.But also fucking jarring compared to the others
NR's face when I NP 5 her
>>169767207Wait that was translated?
Is Last Encore's opening the best opening so far? Its simple but so damned hype
Honestly this episode was way better than I expected, I understand negavity about some others episode but this one was fantastic in my opinion and cute umu screenshot I haven't seen posted.
>>169766603He's not bad and can draw her. DW just decided to select the worst art of her for some reason.
>>169767804The ending is better
Whoever is subbing these is just plain silly
>>169767804I like it some people don't like the male singer or because it's only Nero but as nerofag I like it
>>169768410Thinking about it now since Rin has Cu install pink hair girl could be Tamamo one
God damn that was a sad episode. Holy shit
>>169768361As a TamamoFag, I really enjoy the opening just because of the choreography of Nero dancing around
>>169762434Close on the mark except the last bit.To beat Caster they basically lucked out because Rin literally had one of the Hardest Counters to this type of magic IE was basically amounts to a spell that once used will begin to bend reality to hit the target, with the only means of avoiding said attack being having Luck on the level of the greatest heroes in all mankind, which is a little dying girl does not have, so it basically overwrote HER looping spell and prevented her from rewinding the moment in which the spell connected.
>>169767207>not grailing her to 100This is weak.
>Alice just wanted her Onii-chan
>>169769165Won't you do it anon? Won't you become her onii.chan?
>>169769165It was pretty sad she looking at Hakuno holding the book
>>169766508>whyyyyyyyyshe still hits like a fucking Truck to Servants due to her Humanoid Buff
>>169746388Just learn to appreciate the aesthetics.
So Hakuno isn't an amalgamation of dead Masters, just a zombie? Someone who died, but wanted revenge, so Kirei somehow revived him?If so, why does he see and hear the voices of dead people? Is it all in just his head?
>>169770818He's deadface, doesn't have anything to do with Kirei. Has to do with Buddism most likely, since deadfaces only occur as a result of Buddha's NP.
>>169770818Remember that Hakuno is originally an AI. ALL Hakuno's are AI's created by Moon Cell. Their memories are supposed to be wiped after each use.This Hakuno errored out somehow and retained a trace of the previous Hakuno/ns' memories
Explain to a filthy secondary. Why can Rin use Gae Bolg? Rest i can live with.
>>169770857But we saw that Kirei somehow revived him, in the ending of first episode. Hakuno died, but came back to life when Kirei said something like "Your entry in HGW is the last miracle I place my hopes on" and disappears.
>>169770903She's a Demi-Servant, like Mashu. Unlike Galahad, she had Cu give Rin his powers and fuck off. That's just a guess, no one knows for sure.
>>169770903We dont know yet the exact reason. Chances are however she merged with Chuchu Train and became a demi-servant like Mash from FGO
>>169770858He's an NPC, not an AI. Those are different things in materials. NPC's are cycled to be destroyed at the end of each grail war, while AI's aren't. AI's also have a soul and way more freedom to act, NPCs are built for one task with very little awareness. NPC's who gain any self awareness grow bitter over this and create legends that an NPC who gains high levels of humanity will be upgraded to an AI and survive, but of course this is just a legend.
>>169770978Except in CCC Hakuno is given an artificial body and soul, so thats somewhat contradictory
>>169770978>NPC's who gain any self awareness grow bitter over this and create legends that an NPC who gains high levels of humanity will be upgraded to an AI and survive, but of course this is just a legendWhere are you getting that from? Because in Extra, NPCs getting awareness doesn't happen. Hakunos part was a onetime deal, something thought to be next to impossible.
>>169771020According to Nasu in Extella/Zero, he gets his soul on his own. Since his body on earth is neither dead nor alive, his NPC frame gets his soul.
>>169771023>one time deal>Happens like two or three other times. Twice and Sakura, even though Sakura is slightly different.http://tmdict.com/book/fate-extra-materialCTRL+F the entries on NPC and AI's
>>169771070>However an NPC’s “personality” is a one-time-only prospect, and no deviation is allowed from their preset perspective of the world.>Once the Holy Grail War ends, Moon Cell confiscates their accumulated experiences including any gained physical ability, knowledge or personality development. Everything is reset, and they are equipped and re-tuned in preparation for the next Holy Grail War.>To the NPCs who know they will suffer this fate, Masters are an object of envy and even hatred.>Jerked around by the illogical actions of humans and treated as expendable tools, more than a few NPCs are unsatisfied with their existence in the world.>In a way, life is bestowed upon them, but it is also denied to them.>They are simply something that is “here” or “not here.”>Their discontent built up to the point where it gave birth to an urban legend. It’s said that at the end of their so-called reincarnation cycle, NPCs with a high level of humanity, meaning those who obtained a soul, are upgraded to be high-level AIs.>Of course, no such future exists for them.>Even if such a thing were to happen, as far as Moon Cell is concerned, it would be no more than a meaningless bug.
>>169770818Ignore what anyone says, we just don't know why he sees and hears dead people.Hakuno is probably the biggest mystery in LE. He has died many times, but somehow comes back. And he lacks memories, but hasn't completely been wiped out. His memories are just repressed, as he can still see them sometimes. Like in his dream in episode 3, or the flashbacks Alice's forest causes people to have.
>>169771105Except in the case of Hakuno, in CCC Sakura gives him an artificial body, which bind's his memories to it, and leads it to developing a soul, which then leads into Extella Which is weird in itself, since they combined both the ending of Extra and CCC to create Extella Hakuno
>>169771233He's no longer an NPC after coming to Earth and being born again in a real body. Although he most likely gained a soul at the same time he gained self awareness as an NPC in the first place. But he didn't evolve into an AI either, he's human. Extra is a story all about a fake becoming real, a machine becoming human.
>>169771185See, thats the other one thats confusing, as the flashbacks we're seeing in Alice's episodes show male Hakuno, but the first episode prologue showed Hakunon. Which leads one to believe there was at least one more Hakuno/n iteration between those
>>169771185It was said that Mooncell keeps dumping all human emotions and shit it can't unstand to the bottom floor, where Hakuno was for 1000 years. All the feelings of all the masters who died were all shoved to the bottom floor with him. He probably absorbed it all.
>>169771264This is why I stopped trying to figure out Extra's plotline and just enjoy the ride.Seriously, Extra has been the most convoluted of all the Fate plots in term of plot twists and time/space shenanigans
>Rani killed>Have to endure the slutsaka every single episode>She's not even invited to ride with the MCSeriously why is this allowed, I killed Rin in every fucking EXTRA playthrough. I demand that they respect my decisions
>>169771357People don't absorb emotions. And he has only really shown hatred, if he's absorbing all emotions that are there, he'd have absorbed more. Unless you've something backing up that he absorbed others' emotions, don't treat it as fact. He's just full of his own hatred, accumulated by dying many times, as shown in his flashbacks. He was disgusted by the thought of dying again in the first episode.
>>169771412>People don't absorb emotions. And he has only really shown hatred, if he's absorbing all emotions that are there, he'd have absorbed more.What emotion are a bunch of people who died going to feel? They all died feeling hatred over having died, so he took on hatred.
>>169771400>She's not even invited to ride with the MCEven if they would, I doubt she COULD. If other Masters can just ride along with one Ascending, the premise of the war would be in danger. In the flashback, Hakuno doesn't even invite Alice to go along with him, even thought he clearly wants her around.Rin jumped in the Ladder on her own. She's doing some shenanigans.
>>169771400Rin is basically Vergil and Last Encore is a retelling of Dante's Inferno. Prove me wrong
>>169771436Moon Cell discards ALL emotions, not just the ones they feel when they die. Even if they felt hate when dying, some also probably felt sadness. Most of them probably felt FEAR, as no one wants to die. We see none of it. Only hate.
>>169771400>>169771458She's probably already a floor master and is luring Hakuno to kill him and go up
>>169771489She doesn't have a Servant. You can't be a floor Master without a Servant. She's probably just a Servant now, one who contracted with Hakuno.
>>169771267As far as we're concerned, Hakunon is being treated as a separate Master. Nero herself said that Hakuno was NOT her Master when she lost to Twice, it was someone else.There is the obvious link people who've played the games can make, that Hakunon also didn't get her memories. That is a property unique to Hakuno, due to his neurological disease. But we haven't been presented this information in this anime yet, there might be changes to it.In Extella/Zero, Hakunon is said to be made from Hakuno's model. That doesn't have to be true here. If she was just made from his model, she wouldn't have gained a soul, and would've started falling apart as soon as she gained awareness. The anime could still pull something like making Hakunon Hakuno's sister, someone caught up in the same terrorist attack as him, someone with the same brain problems. Either way, it's just speculation. We haven't been given anything but the promise that Hakunon is a different person to work with.
>>169770903As was stated, the only logical guess is that she's a demi-servant like our favorite eggplant. The bigger question is HOW exactly Rin became one, because prior to this point Mashu was the only demi-servant and became one through very specific means.>In the year 2000, Mash was created from artificial fertilization and genetic editing. She is actually aDesigner Baby, a magus genetically engineered under the orders of Chaldea's late director,Marisbury Animusphere, to be a prime vessel for aHeroic Spirit's soul. The project aimed to control the powers of Heroic Spirits by binding them to a compatible mortal vessel in order to produce Demi-Servants.>In 2010, Chaldea perform their second Heroic Spirit summoning. While the project succeed in summoning and binding a spirit to Mash, the spirit failed to awaken. Galahad decried Chaldea's brutal experiments, but remained in the world to keep his host alive.>After the research team deemed the project a failure, Mash was left to Chaldea's care. However, due to being a genetically engineered organism not dissimiliar to aHomunculus, her life-span was set since her conception. She was given eighteen years to live and while she was aware of this fact, she kept it a secret between herself and Dr. Romani her physician. By the start of the story, Mash has already lived sixteen years of her life giving her a mere two years left, at best.So while it can be possible for someone to become a demi-servant through other means, Mashu shows that's not a simple process. So Rin must've figured out some kind of method, or has the greatest luck in the world to match the worst luck ever.
>>169771264Which is something I really loved about the original Extra game and CCC. Seeing Hakuno and Sakura grow into something more after enduring so many trials was great.
>>169771510I don't she's contacted to Hakuno because she'd been around the first floor annoying Shinji for some time before Hakuno arrived. It's possible that as a demi-servant, Seraph doesn't know how to identify her, so certain restrictions may no longer apply.
>>169770903Class Card similar to Prisma Illya which is why she has a magical girl transformation
>>169771576Didn't the original novel state at some point cases of mages fusing with servants or something similar? I feel like it did but I can't remember clearly.
>>169771510She still has her command seal wouldn't it still qualify her as master ?
>>169771846>Magic Girl transformationI mean, we don't ever see how Mash transforms either
>>169771576It's a retarded mooncell, they'll pull some bullshit and get over with it.
>>169771887I always thought Mash just makes her armor appear or disappear at will like Saber. Or at least just puts some clothes on.
>>169771879>Rin is pulling a Sig
>>169771879If you don't have at least one command seal the Mooncell deletes you on the nearside as soon as you have zero, far side it doesn't matter how many you have. Maybe though.
>>169771879Not if the spirit is possessing herself, this episode straight up said that SERAPH sometimes shits itself when things don't fit into the categories properly, a demi-servant being labeled as neither a master nor servant and therefore bypassing the rules would make plenty of sense with what we've been shown.There's a few options for what the fuck Rin is.1. She's a demiservant like Mash2. Card install like Prilya3. She's actually a servant (Tamamo) and is using kitsune glamour and illusions to appear as something else. This would explain why she drank the servant bottle (although so would being a demiservant), the sticker easter egg, why her "gae bolg" didn't one shot right away, and some of her decidedly non-Rin mannerisms.The fact Twice is still around and we're confirmed to be in a Bad End where hakuno made it all the way to the end only to lose makes me think Tamamo is more likely than at first glance. Twice originally having Caster as his servant is a pretty big plot detail, I know they tossed Redman away so it wouldn't be that surprising if she never showed up but I still think it's likely.
>>169772066Well, the non-Rin mannerisms is easy to explain. Extra Rin isnt really the same Rin as FSN Rin. Also, in terms of Gae Bolg, Alice is basically the Jabberwocky at this point. It only makes sense that gae bolg wouldnt kill her
>>169772232Anon, when you had these thoughts and decided to type them out on the keyboard, what exactly were you hoping to accomplish?
>>169772066Knowing about Nasu's autism it's definitely gonna be something new. Andit's not prsima or GO, it's extra, they have their own different set of rules anyway.
>>169772349Just hide and report it an move on. Obvious bait is obvious and against the rules
>>169772375"Install" was an Extra original idea in the first place if i'm not wrong
>>169753745I'd like to know where their servants are. Four masters, no servants. The hell?
>>169772423Back with Shinji
>>169772439I wonder what's servant shinji gf has
>>169759269No tail, no sale.
>>169772408No, Install first appeared in prisma which is years before extra. But Nasu himself admitted that he like to observe spinoffs and take good ideas from them and also they had in plans something like that for extra, but they disgarded this idea.
>>169772516Tamamo is a bad mom!
>>169768745No. No no no. No substitute Tamamo. Want REAL Tamamo.
>>169772516What about this tail?
>>169772606but it has been 1000 years since the grail war started she could be very well be Amaterasu a this point, It will be hard to see regular Tamamo
>>169772439The masters who gave up their servants to Shinji stayed on the first floor. These ones ascended.
>>169772066You foxcucks keep getting sadder and sadder each day.
Will Alice ever have a happy ending?
>>169772613That tail is a fake. She created it to hit on someone else. Pass!
>>169772601Who's translating this? Where can I find it?
>>169772601whose taking care of hakunon?
>>169772727It's one page a week sadly I guess it get's posted on /fgog/ or other type-moon related places>>169772811Redman and Altera
>>169772863>hakunon got all the best onesITS NOT FAIR
Does anyone else think that the ED's singer sounds like Nero's VA. I know they're different but they have the same kind of nasally voice
>>169772912Altera is cute
>>169773231i was to kiss her tummy.
>>169773229Her VA is a singer but i'm pretty sure it's not her in the ED>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH0bO6tLzgU
>>169771879She had CS in Extra too, after she loses her Servant. CS are necessary to survive in Moon Cell. What you need to qualify as a Master is not just CS, but a Servant. She lacks that.
>>169773294ED is Sayuri
>>169771728Without any form of contract with Hakuno, I find it hard to believe she can just enter HIS Moon Mile Ladder without permission. Another anon pointed out that both she and Hakuno needed Mana restoration potion the first time he woke up in her apartment. Hakuno, at that point, had not used much mana. His Dead Face didn't need any Mana restoration potion of 2nd floor, so I doubt it takes up a lot of Mana. I suspect she made contract while he was asleep, which led to the Mana lost.
>>169773347>>169773302If she has a contract with her how was she living normally before ?.I'm starting to think shinji gf killed Cu somehow, in the flashback they talk about how she wants to fight Rin maybe she wants revenge.
>>169773542Because she isn't dead? She isn't going to disappear without Mana. Even then, she can just use Mana potions to recover it. Unlike pure Servants, Rin is still a human. She isn't going to disappear.
>>169772696Go stab yourself with your own pointy stick dog.
Soundtrack when? I really want this epsode this soundtrack.
>>169773569Why would she bind herself to Hakuno then ? it doesn't make sense to me>>169773593This episode soundtrack was really good surprised nobody said anything about it
>>169773747Because she wants to Ascend? That's the whole thing that started this theory. That she can enter his Moon Mile Ladder. It would be hard to do so without any connection to Hakuno. Otherwise, Alice too would've joined him in the flashback, instead of staying behind.
Anyone notice the different command spell configuration on Hakuno's hand during the flashback scenes with Nursery Rhyme? Is that one we've seen before?
>>169773799makes sense now
>>169773922We discussed that last week they showed it many times it's definetely past Hakuno
>>169773985I'm talking about the command seal being different than the one he has with Saber. Does anyone recognize that particular configuration?
>>169773922No. First time seeing that CS.He probably had a different CS when he was alive, when he wasn't a zombie, when he had Suzuka.
>>169774114Are we absolutely sure that was him with Suzuka? Everyone's wearing that damn uniform.
>>169774153The hair style, length and color match Hakuno's. It was Hakuno. That scene is taken right out of the game, after all.
>>169774219Yup. Rewatched the scene. You're right.
>>169773593this. why is it so late? Unless there are spoilers
>>169774950An EMIYA soundtrack
>>169774823Rin hand is cute!
>>169775029Sounds more like a fox soundtrack to me
>>169775459I SAID EW
Tanoshii waTanoshii waTanoshii waTanoshii waTanoshii wa
Wait, so Alice was a Dead Face? How else would she turn into a Monster?As Rin explained, there's two types of Dead Face. The living dead, and the dead living. Hakuno seems to the be former, someone who died too much while still alive. Alice seemed to be the latter, someone who moved even though she'd dead. Being a ghost and all.
>>169775609Rin also said Dead Face can't die. Alice died. She wasn't one. She probably just turned into the monster due to the Chakravartin, as Alice suspected.
>>169775572You are bad
here's a little fight the burning shout!
Realizing reusing Monogatari style no longer brings them success, Shaft now resorts to reusing Madoka style, but the results backfire.What next? Return of SZS style?
>>169775848isn't madoka style an incarnation of SZS ?
>>169775494Of course Umu is much better but Tamamo is not that bad
>>169775812>Alice diedDid she, though? Even as a little eye in the end, she was capable of thinking. Her thought process was fine. We never see her actually die.As for Alice blaming Chakravartin, that fits. Dead Face are, in fact, a result of Chakravartin's appearance. They only started appearing after Chakravartin appeared. Alice started turning into a monster after it appeared.In fact, when Rin is explaining Dead Face, saying how Dead Face can't die, they're stuck in one place, stuck in one time, they show Alice. Alice appears during Dead Face's explanation. Honestly, no matter how I look at it, Alice's monster form seems to be a result of her turning into a Dead Face.
>>169775886No, its Hidamari + Inu Curry
>>169775848How it backfired?
>>169775886isn't SZS an incarnation of Hidimari Sketch?
Aside from being an Asuka clone with black hair, what makes Rin unique?
>>169775928It is devalating Madoka style by using in inferior show
>>169775834Shut up retarded book
>>169775940she's not suicidal unlike Asuka
Why is shaft reusing the Hidimari Sketch style for their new series?
>>169775950This doesn't make any sense it was for just 2 episodes and they were the best by far in LE
>>169775923except that Last Encore isn't "stop start" which is a primary feature of Madokas animation
>>169760237There are several scenes that contradict your stance. Ilya and Rin themselves say that Shiro will attain projection because it's his magic. It has nothing to do with the ideal and more to do with how Avalon changed his origin by Kerry putting it inside him. Whatever it was before, now it pertains to "close combat weaponry".He couldn't use Archer's because as he said, his and Archer's world's are different despite being the same soul originally, so he can't use it. But he projects outside of using Archer's arm when he practices it while not wanting to have the erosion happen. You see him try to make daggers and then later Bersie's axe sword (the first one, the second was with the arm, which is why it was significant).
>>169747470Tomino said the same thing about G-reco. Look at how that turned out.
>>169775960Omae wa mou shindeiru
>>169775985>Goes to fight against 3 Berserkers alone in the third episodeSure buddy,
>>169775960Tanoshii wa Tanoshii wa
>>169776209It wasn't a fight, she sucked off all their mana.
was this a Clannad reference?
>>169776308Could you elaborate?
>>169776390I still dont get it, could you be more opaque?
>>169772601The whole strong maternal instinct thing has been seen with other heroines.In a story where the heroines of FSN were given a wish from the grail in this one drama CD, iirc, Rin had a wish that she basically got the Midas Touch, so pretty much a wish for wealth.As for Sakura, her deep desire should be given context, Nasu says she has a strong maternal instinct and that her soul is similar to a lot of mother goddesses, like Parvati and Hariti. Her wish was basically to mother Shirou, literally, where he became her child, again, literally. It was an interesting piece.
>>169776390is that why Rin is hanging around Hakano?
>>169772601>wouldn't it be fine if he were to simply remain like this?>it would be leading down a path of unending degenerate LOVE LIFESTOP YOU VIXEN
>>169745832Why does she have to suffer so much?
>>169777227I know right, there's no fucking excuse or reason why she had to suffer. The writers could've at least give her a happy ending like going with the MC or something, fucking cucks. Fairy tales aren't supposed to have happy endings, fuck that this isn't a fairytale! YOU KNOW WHAT SCREW IT I'M DROPPING THIS PIECE OF SHIT, FUCK THE WRITERS AND FUCK FATE!! I'LL NEVER WATCH ANYTHING FROM THIS SHIT HOLE FRANCHISE AGAIN!!!
>>169777630See you for the HF BD threads, friend.
I will never know why people don't enjoy this. This is the most interesting a fate show has been
>>169777941>Worse MC than Sieg>Servants dying in one hitWhat did Shaft mean by this?
>>169777227The answer is that this is a really cheap way to make you feel sad. And it's working, previous episodes looks like trash now.
>>169777941It's ok, anon, I enjoy it too.
>>169777941NO ACTIONREEEE TOO MUCH TALKING FOR MY BRAIN
Are you fags ready for Li Shuwen to get one hit by Nero or Rin too?
>>169777941There is tons of problems in this show. I myself interested in last encore ony because I want to know what happened and what's the difference with the game. The main problem is that this show isn't good fot starters. Story is too mysterios for no reason, MC is too boring and Nero here only for a reason to be a saberclone and do cool or fanservice stuff. And this is main characters for this show.
>>169778299>Story is too mysterios for no reasonEh, I disagree. I think all the hints tie in nicely with what's known of the Fate/Type-moon verse at large. We still don't know all the answers, but bit by bit, we get a fairly consistent theme being build up that ties in to the verse.>MC is too boringYes, I do think the MC is underwhelming. But again, the verse more than makes up for it. Basically, Last Encore feels like an early Nihei Tsutomu works. The characters themselves don't quite matter and is more about exploring the setting.
>>169777941Most of the fate fanbase is comprised of people who only like action, and the second a show spends more time on narrative instead of combat, it's immediately seen as the worst show ever.Fatefags are very similar to dragon ballfags in that regard.>I liked it when the one servant hit the other servant but it did 0.0001 damage so that the fight could get dragged on for another 10 minutesFate extra's battles are a lot shorter, which is better because it shows that these servants aren't as weak as fuck as they look in the other fate shows.
>>169778576Have you been watching different franchise? Majority of the servants in fate have been showcased as powerhouses duking it out with weaklings like Fran, Zero Assassin or EMIYA being scarce.
>>169777941There is people in fate/TM threads who don't even know who cooking priest is. There is fgog falsfelaggers everywhere check first tmg general in /jp/ 200+ deleted posts and tons deleted spam threads. And generally modern /a/ is just brainlet central now.
"Oh deary, deary me, this is none of I!""But if it be I,As I hope it may be,I have a little dog at homeAnd he will know meIf it be IHe will wag his little tail,And if be not I,He will loudly bark and wail."Home went the little womanAll in the dark,Up got the little dogAnd he began to bark.He began to bark;And she began to cry,"Oh deary, deary me this is none of I."
>>169778789>There is people in fate/TM threads who don't even know who cooking priest is.That is a good thing. The less people acknowledging that autist the better
>>169778576>Most of the fate fanbase is comprised of people who only like actionand yet apocrypha seen as the worst thing happened
>>169777941>why people don't enjoy thisFGO-generation only likes FGO and Riyo disgusting comics
>>169778444Most of the questions that important to their arcs ended up answered, but overall the pacing and direction are trying too hard to be mysterious. This isn't good, because this show isn't much better than any other Fate. Viewers should have something to care about, they don't want to be mndfucked constantly for nothing. Just try to rewatch this show but from the point of newcomer, maybe you'll start to notice something.
>>169779102No, I like this.
>>169778929Of course. But is same time that means they were not here even 4 years ago.
>>169779111>just try to rewatch this show but from the point of newcomerBut I'm not a newcomer, that's the point. Despite what Nasu claims, it really isn't for newcomers and there's nothing wrong with that. It just means they aren't the audience. I don't care what newcomers think, it's not relevant to me how others enjoy it. It has no bearing on how I enjoy it. >trying too hard to be mysteriousAgain, I disagree. Just because they aren't giving you all the answers at once doesn't mean that's the case. And as I said, to me, it's more about exploring the verse. The questions you're talking about are character-centered. I'm talking about the verse. We're talking about entirely different things.The game = explore the charactersLast encore = explore the settingSo I, as a viewer, do have something to care about, because 'the viewers' isn't some hivemind. It consist of different types of people.
The Mask of Lightning, Dead Face powers appeared in episode one.
>>169779102>Riyo disgusting comicsWhat's wrong with them? Maybe you don't like picrelated too?
>>169779336They stopped being funny two years ago
>>169779312Re-posting from a previous thread.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asura_(Buddhism)>While all the gods of the Kāmadhātu are subject to the passions to some degree, the Asuras above all of them have become addicted to them, especially wrath, pride, envy, insincerity, falseness, boasting, and bellicosity.>Because of their passions, rebirth as an Asura is considered to be one of the four unhappy births (together with rebirth as an animal, a preta, or a being in Naraka). The state of an Asura reflects the mental state of a human being obsessed with ego, force and violence, always looking for an excuse to get into a fight, angry with everyone and unable to maintain calm or solve problems peacefully.Hakuno is actually an Asura and in the process of attaining enlightenment.Chakravartin makes not Dead Face, but Asura. Dead Face is just the name people gave it.
>>169752727>leaving your backside unprotectedANAL DOUJIN WHEN?
I really like LE Hakuno desu.
>Rin pleasing men for moneyI swear SHAFT are lurking these threads.
>>169779404>Archer that throws spears and swords at people>Assassin that is full iron clad blackguard>Lancer that does not use lancer>Rider that can only ride ship>Caster that prefers to smack people with his wooden stick>Berserker that does not go BerserkWhat did Nasu mean by all this?
>>169779544She has yet to please a single old man. In fact, she didn't even appear on the old man floor. Stop slandering Rin with memes.
>>169779607She's doing all the slandering mate.
>>169750370Fifth floor pls be bumstead
>>169779607How do you think she moved past that floor?
>ywn bathe in the afterglow with rin
>>169779601>Assassin that is full iron clad blackguardThere's actually nothing wrong with this. An Assassin is not a ninja. They don't need to be sneaky or hidden. They need to professional killers. Hassan-i-Sabbah, on which the Assassin class is based on, as well as word assassin comes from, were just trained killers, capable of systematically eliminating their targets. Sneaking around can help, is usually done by Assassins to avoid unnecessary conflict, but it is not the end all, be all of being an assassin.
>>169777941Most TMfags on /a/ nowadays are converted shonenfags. Same reason prisma ilya is so overrated by people who aren't even lolicons
>>169779404defenseless anus meme
>>169779848this makes me feel so lonely>ywn hug rin>ywn feel her breathe on your chest>ywn feel her warmth with your body>ywn smell her sweet scent>ywn look at her sleeping face>ywn mark her with love bites>swn mark you with her nailsIs this what women want?Tall, tanned, white haired, physically fit magus than can pin them down and have his way with them while being very good at cleaning and cooking food?
>>169755878so far HF is on track to be the best based on the first movie alone
>>169772601>Mathman deadpan I didn't know I wanted it
>>169776864Is she implying that she'd molest the baby?Triggered
>>169779384Will Hakuno take control over SE.RA.PH ?>>169779454Hakuno was always pretty cool wish they didn't start him just nikui da.
Last Encore proves that Nasu still has spark for DDD. It's same kind of shit like HandS chapter. Now all we need is big plot twist.
>>169779332>fapping to paint doodlesI hate you /a/
>>169778058>Worse MC than SiegAh, I see your opinion should be disregarded and do so immediately
This fucking tree in the ED bothering me since second episode because of this >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMOI9AqB9lk
>>169781043This shit in the OP has been bothering me too
>>169781043That's a tree?
>>169780842Hakunon fight with buddha at start was not a flashback but a flashfoward, it would be a cool twist
>>169771576Holy shit Mashed potato is going to die nice Wtf I love F/GO now
>>169781403Considering what Nero said this episode, about her first Master being someone who didn't have their memory, had no wish, only fought for survival, but died to Twice Pieceman, I doubt it. That fits Hakunon too perfectly.Still, Extella/Zero was supposed to start by showing a dead Hakunon too, making people believe she dies, but she actually comes back. So if Nasu decides to use that part from E/Z, maybe what Nero said will turn out to be a red herring.
>>169781433No, she's not. She WAS going to die around Babylonia and Salomon, but at the end of FGO part 1, she survived, got her life fixed.
>F/GOShould I play this game?
>>169781043>>169781285its more like that timeline thing in extella.
>>169781578it's not as abysmally bad as people will have you believe but it's not particularly amazing eitherif you like TM stuff give it a go
>>169781433She gets saved by Primate Murder
>>169781578I think the plot is fun and you can see it improving but you have to deal with gatcha sadly, your choice.
>>169781634But it give me the freemium vibehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4duJdeKTwHY
>>169781713so just don't spend money on it?not really hard
>>169779721>How do you think she moved past that floor?Killing Old Men after all she seemed pretty surprised you could move past a floor otherwise
>>169781578I started it pretty recently. It's pretty enjoyable.
>>169781578It's kind of a pain to grind but it has that fate route goofiness through most of the lackluster singularities that have been translated (and every event is basically Nasu writing April Fools bullshit)
>>169781713You can do everything with 1-3 star servants you can do literally everything for free, but it's frustrating not being able to have a servant you like.
>>169781821>most of the lackluster singularities that have been translatedYou mean the JP version is better than the ENG version?
>>169781834So it's waifu collecting game.
>>169781713You can more than get by as a free to play player. Just have enough self restraint to not spent money. There are tons of videos literally just soloing with Cu, who's a 3 star.
>>169781578No. You can watch everything on youtube. There is absolutely no reason to play it because JP version is untranslated for 80%.
>>169781877It's further ahead. If you can't read Jap there's not much point
>>169772601Hakuno is the cutest character in that page.
>>169781906Yes, they gave some pretty good units in events too like Shiki which is one of the best assassins you spend money only if you really want your waifu.They even give a garanteed 5 star in the paid gatcha, it would been pretty cool if quartz wasn't so fucking expensive one summon I can buy a new AAA game or something like that.
>>169781877The stuff that Nasu wrote (Camelot, Babylonia, Solomon) isn't coming for another few months, and the EORs at least have fun gameplay limitationsEven japs agree that Septem is garbage, and Orleans/Okeanos are basically just fluff. London is a huge infodump but the first 2/3 of it is wonky "lol look at all these Apo servants interacting again"
>>169781906Made by one of the worst mobage developers with no efforts at all.
How many have played Tsukihime?
>>169782105Pretty retarded they have one of the most sucessful mobile game in their hands but let the game out of content for 6 fucking months
>>169755971>how badly UBW was adaptedexplain
>>169756067>>169756438Why do UBW fanboys hate HF?
>>169782152Can't be helped. Nasu is slow writer. All of his stuff usually got delayed several times.
>>169782228Also he is probably working on multiple projects.
why is her butt more colored than everything else this episode?
>>169782176I loved the first half but man did they drop the ballMy main problems were the lack of tension, Rin turning into "the tsundere love interest" as opposed to an actually cool character, and the Shirou vs Archer fight being messed upYou couldn't really tell what Shirou's decision was at the end of it, hence you get a lot of anime-onlys shitting on UBW as a story
>>169782082>EORs at least have fun gameplay limitations
>>169782147Millions probably. What kind of a dumb question is this?
>>169781517>>169781651I hate it when someone pulls the "You're going to die in X amount of time but not really" card in a story. They should have just killed her off and revived her as a full servant so that way you can pick between her and Galahad. Still hoping she goes the way of the Solomon though.
>>169782147I still have it on PC.>creation date >2007
>>169782209UBW "fans" are actionfags who only played Fate for UBW and only like TM for powerlevels. They dislike every other route because it's not UBW, regardless of the quality of them or the action scenes within. HF is bad for them because all the heroes they like "job" to the weak shadow/hassan before the halfway mark
Why does /a/ hate Nasu's magnum opus, Fate/Extra?
>>169782456CCC is untranslated
>>169758291>After exposing myself to Zero and all of the FSN routes, I feel like any other Grail War won't bring anything new to the table.Why is that?
>>169782496It will be finished in 2-3 years right ? this guy will not drop this time (please god don't let CCC translation go the way of mahoyo)
>>169782152Nasu had decided a general plot for Part 1 from the beginning, so he let other writers do his work for him, for most part. Nasu himself only really came back towards the end of it. When that ended, they saw how much money they were making, instead of ending the story there, they extended it. For that, Nasu took a year long break, to write a general plot for Part 2, while other writers wrote some filler chapters.That year is over, Part 2 isn't here, Nasu also wasted time writing CCC event, a book for this new Extra anime, as well as Christmas event, that was about Sumerian bullshit. His biases towards what he wants to do show themselves pretty clearly.
>>169782389>you can pick between her and Galahad>You sacrificed yourself to save my life but I don't need you anymore I want GalahadHow fucking dumb would that be.
>>169782147Remake never.>>169782456Translation most likely 10 years from now.
>>169762048>>169762138>Rolling for male servants
>>169776131>>169776284Come at me you stupid whores
>>169782647Translation if at 20% if they take 10 years it's easier to learn japanese myself
>>169782622As dumb as solomoron returning in fgo part 2 what is really gonna happen sadly
>>169782622Because a Fate mobage waifu simulator is the pinnacle of common sense. Plus she was his servant so she has atleast some obligation to keep him safe and at that moment she was going to die in 2 years.
>>169782456It's also last Fate accorind to Nasu.And anyway, CCC is good. Fate/extra is a trash.
>>169782865>CCC is good. Fate/extra is a trash>100% translation neverMan that sucks
>>169782604Why does he like this technobullshit setting so much? I don't think he's written a single story with Shirou since HA, and those were objectively the best Fate works.
>>169782647>>169782740>it's easier to learn japanese myselfSecondaries need to stop begging for beast's lair to translate it for them.
Just watched the episode, and I think I got what happened. Alice was in her coma-near death state. Nursery Rhyme looked like Alice and went around playing and having fun while Alice watched so she could enjoy that vicariously. NR met Hakuno and they played and Hakuno said he'd come back and then left. Hakuno dies and then at some point Alice dies. NR starts to vanish but begins absorbing all of the mana around to stay past Alice's death because she wants to meet Hakuno. NR ends up turning into a monster, and finally gets killed by Rin in the end.Is that about right?
>>169782933>and those were objectively the best Fate works.CCC
>>169782947>Boys love translating anything
>>169782933Because he likes Extra setting more and thinks CCC is his best work ? if you force someone to write something he doesn't like anymore it won't come anything good
>>169782228He have a couple TM writers and DW can hire a writers for themselves. Nasu even have an assistant which work is also was to help him write or giving him ideas. Majority of events and even story chapters wasn't really great so it's not a big deal to make a small event once in a while.
>>169783068What do we know about the remake of Tsukihime?
>>169782959Monster is a deformed cyber-ghost of Alice the master.
>>169782959I thought that Alice was already dead and the white Alice is just a ghost/her soul because that's what was saved by Moon Cell while Black Alice is NR. After Alice sort of loses her motivation to stay alive when Hakuno left that's when she slowly started to turn into a monster by consuming everything. Alice turning into her monster form meant that NR couldn't emulate her form anymore or Alice lost her status as a master which is why NR turned back into a book which Hakuno picks up this episode. This would also explain why the book randomly disappears because it's mana source Alice disappeared after being killed. The body that you see in this episode is Alice's real body which got transferred but since she died and her soul got saved, it's just a piece of meat while her soul just plays around and does nothing.
>>169783238But it looked like it was NR who was turning into the monster, since NR was the one who was able to wander around and Alice was trapped in the bed.
>>169782959>Alice was in her coma-near death stateAnon, Alice is dead. That was her dead body. Remember, she's a ghost? She died, and due Alice's Servant magic bullshit, she was able to appear as a "ghost", a "dream".To put it simply, NR "projects" an Alice, who met Hakuno, befriended him in 3rd round of a normal Holy Grail War. There were no Floor Masters here, just 1vs1 battles. Hakuno was supposed to fight Alice, but she didn't show up, and was thus disqualified. She didn't get deleted. Hakuno moved up.Sometime after he did, Chakravartin appears and something happens on the floors above. Alice learns this, gets worried about Hakuno, and this newly appeared Chakravartin is causing Alice to disappear. She starts taking up resources of everything around her to live, but somehow transforms into a monster. That monster forgets about Hakuno, and keeps on killing for 999 years.NR, now with a monster as her Master, can't keep her Servant form. She turns into a basic book. Only Alice, now a monster, and NR remain. Hakuno appears, remembers the past, picks up the book he used to read Alice. She sees the book, finally recognizes Hakuno, and instead of being sad she's being left behind, she sees Hakuno off.
>>169783345How, exactly, does she turn into a monster? What is that monster? If that monster was NR, it would make sense, it's formless Servant, but you're saying that's Alice. So how? How did she turn into that?
>>169783517Probably has to do something with Chakravartin and the Rin living dead explanation
>>169783145It's completely rewritten. It probably will be released in 2020. 2023 unofficial deadline
I'm happy this week Shaft did a 10/10 episode for both LE and 3-gatsu how they do it ?
>>169783517There are two types of Dead Face. Rin says they're pretty different in nature. As pointed out before in this thread, Alice probably turned into the second type of Dead Face. See >>169775912
>>169782959To keep it simple, NR is always in black when taking Alice's form. Alice always wears blue. NR's true form is the book Alice and old Hakuno reads and the one current Hakuno held at the end. It's why the book disappeared when the monster was killed, because NR no longer had a master.Keep in mind that it's the ghost of Alice that's NR's master, not the actual Alice who's already dead. There were command seals on Alice's hand even as she turning into a monster. So even if Alice changes, she's still recognized as NR' master.
How much money would TM make if they ported FSN, FHA, FE and FE CCC for Switch?
>>169780842DDD was basedHope Nasu remembers it exists and makes DDD3 one day
>>169783914Probably not much because most Nintendo consumers are parants who'd have no idea what the hell fate is and certainly won't let their children play an eroge.
>>169783914>>169784000They should port it to PC,PS4 and Vista desu
>>169784071>VistaLol.They are all on PS Vita already though.
>>169775950get a load of this retard
>>169784071All those things are already on Vita in Japan
>>169784150Good idea tbf, can play it on the telly and portably.Many VNs are cross-play on ps3 and vita
>>169784184>>169784197Dammit, this slims the chance of translation since I doubt it would sell a lot in PC and PS4 alone but a package with Extella link or something would be pretty nice
>>169784291>Good idea tbfNo. PS/PC will be forever VN machine.
Wasn't the SEAnigger translation that handles FGO NA talking about releasing a translated, PC version of CCC before the event, to give players context for it?
>>169784392FSN/FHA for PS4 when?
>>169784438I think so, but I doubt they would do it but if they did and released on steam I would buy it for sure
>>169784438There's only a small team working on FGOYou can't expect them to translate FGO on schedule while also translating that fuckton of text from CCCEven if someone there wanted to, I really doubt it'd ever happen.
>>169784438Of course if you want to trust the SEAmonkeys go ahead
>>169784636>>169784832They could pay someone else to translate CCC but I doubt they care that much about it, really hope they don't release some text with explanation of CCC events and call it context
>>169784533For what purpose?
>>169784832That pretty much explicitly says that they are not going to translate the game. Which should be obvious regardless.
>>169785074I just want some fat ass neet translated is this too much to ask