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How do you judge kohei horikoshi for his art skills? for me it is one of the best for shonen.
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i like how it looks like an american comic. but i'm never reading the manga, it looks depresseing when you're used to the colorful anime
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>>173041700
>it looks depresseing when you're used to the colorful anime
That's an odd attitude to have. I assume you are not a big manga reader in general?
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>>173041700
Even I see only the anime but several times I was impressed by the drawings of the manga
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>>173041195
For me it's the best with Yusuke Murata.
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He is really impressive reconsidering that his work is weekly, I would like to see a month manga from him
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>>173041195
still inexperienced, but far from horrible. still needs work on his paneling as they are can be all style, but no substance/flow every now and then. pic related.

last week chapters' doodles clearly show he still has to work on scheduling & simplifying / streamlining his drawing process, unless he / WSJ can afford more assistants.

several of his fights / choreography just doesn't leave much of an impact on paper, as the anime has portrayed them. AM's final blow to AfO felt "meh". destructive, but not exactly awe-inspiring.
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>>173041195
Nice art but his fights are so boring.
The anime corrects this
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>>173042280
How could improves the choreography and the panelling of fights in your opinion?
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>>173041195
It's great, especially for a weekly series
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He's a bit like ishida, very consistently good and few unbeleiveable pages but struggles chorographing fights
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Theres a thread with 200 posts. Dele this one.
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>>173042280
>>173042491
The fact that he himself admits (I think it was in an interview) that he is weak with choreography, is a good sign.
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>>173042606
He is getting better, gentle vs deku was really gun
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>>173041195
He takes it a little too easy with the non-action scenes, the art can look awful sometimes, but his action scenes always look really good art-wise. He struggles to get his vision directly onto the page and sometimes you can't really tell what's happening, and along with this he struggles with showing movement, though he's gotten better at these recently. The fight with Gentle was pretty well done. He's become amazing at shading and the way he does his coloured artwork is great.

Overall he's a pretty good Mangaka, he's come a long way, really fast. He's one of the best artists in SJ right now, but then again that's not saying much since they're really lacking talent right now.
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>>173042491
I dunno it takes someone how good at paneling.
he could talk to Tabata since he's friends with him .
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>>173042787
>How
who's *
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Panelling in the current WSJ is weak with everyone. Compare Oda of the 90's with Oda now. Actually, get any WSJ from the 80's and 90's and compare it to one now. The need to hold the reader's attention overlaps the flow. The manga became more expositive as well.
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>>173041195
The non-action scenes are sometimes not treated with unfinished characters in the background, this is a shame because sometimes in some panels his art is incredible
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>>173041195
It's great, extremely dynamic, very suave perspective and poses.

Like other anons here said, the paneling can be pretty bad. Poses in an individual panel may be amazing, but joined together the flow can be hard to read. Dragon Balls had amazing action flow and I was spoilt by it as a child.
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His art is good, but his designs are fucking awful
>DUDE, HANDS AND BODY HORROR LMAO
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>>173042280
I know I'll get shitposter to death but black clovers panel flow is fantastic.
like he never does anything to flashy with it but it flows super well.
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>>173043512
what? i love his designs
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>>173042280
that spread is so good though
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>>173043448
>kick kick kick like in MMX
I missed that when I read it, but now it sounds stupid as hell.

Hori has a great artstyle, to the point there is now a crossover spin-off with AoT
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>>173041195
Above Kishimoto's, that's for sure
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>>173043512
>expecting any less hand focus from a hand fetishist
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>>173043739
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>>173043739
>>173043796
what the actual fuck? can hori sue these assholes?
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>>173043512
The designs are the best part you fucko
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>>173043604
his designs are fucking horrible and without any given rules. That's a problem the whole manga has, the world building is utter shit.
Giving the fire/ice character white and red hair perfectly split is something an 8year old would come up with.
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>>173043847
No, because it's a parody.
>also, implying Hori would be against it.
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>>173043847
I don't think he'd bother. Most Japanese despise Trump since he's a fucking joke who's actively disrespected their country but even then this comic is pretty clearly a parody. If he wouldn't sue over porn doujins where Bakugo gets raped till he's crying then I can't see him suing over something dumb like this harmless comic.
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>>173043878
Proving his point, to be honest.
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I miss his tweets.
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What are the best/most appealing/most complex designs of mha?
I think we should not count villains, because they all look great. Even Overhaul, this fucker
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>>173044079
>most appealing
Best girl.
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>>173043796
>bad hombres
kek, made me smile
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The shitty Nisekoi ripoff has better paneling and flow than Boku no Pico Academia, let alone good shounen like Kengan Asura.
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>>173044079
All Might obviously
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>>173044079
Endeavor is the best designed character in the series.
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>>173043991
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>>173044079
todoroki, all might, kamui, mt.lady, miina
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>>173044167
Overhaul would be way more intimidating and a better design if he didn't have the mask.
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>>173043962
>Most Japanese despise Trump
Source?
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>>173044220
nah
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>>173044042
I'm caught up to the manga but not part of this ride for long. Is there a collection of these Hori tweet pics? Like on imgur or something else?
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>>173044220
Then he would remind me of Chrollo even more
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>>173044239
Japanese media.
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He has some nice designs.
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Deku is such a lame character. All-might should've kept his powers.
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>>173044239
Must the world thats not Russia or America thinks he is an absolute clown, media is obviously biased and I don't want to get into politics in a shounen thread but he does come of pretty silly to most non americans
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>>173044079
This guy's costume is pretty amazing
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>>173044239
That anon, is just speaking out of their ass.
If anything, Japanese are just indifferent about Trump mostly because of his personality but are aware that he's no where near as bad as the global media has tried to make him out to be.
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The most overrated mangaka draws the most overrated shounen. He even openly admits that his assistants have to draw characters for him since they can do character designs better and faster.
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>>173044079
Bakugou, Kirishima, Kaminari

>Best Outfits only

Sero, TetsuTetsu, Twice, Suneater,
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>>173044351
Here in Australia we think he's pretty alright. He gives the finger to the Chinese a lot, which makes him alright in our books.
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>>173044383
They think he's an absolute joke, and has repeatedly insulted Japan and its customs and made Abe (who's notably unpopular at the moment and potentially facing resignation) look bad multiple times. Not to mention all the shit with Korea, who they fucking hate. They aren't indifferent to him in the least, and even if they were it wouldn't reflect well on him.
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>>173044584
ITT: Bogan with bogan friends. Where the fuck did you get that? A simple Google search will show that he's not popular here at all.
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>>173044584
Oh course the people who would hang out on 4chan will think that but on a national level thats not true
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>>173044728
Nobody cares what degenerates in melbourne and sydney think. Don't you have billions of dollars to spend on gender equal traffic signals?
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>>173041700
It looks more like a humanized version of calarts
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>>173043912
why does need to overthink hairdesigns? bakugo has his exploding hair, tokoyomi as his crow hair
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>>173044853
You got called out on blatantly making shit up so you start whining about how the biggest cities in the country don't count, nice.
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>>173045035
What do you mean? I haven't been called out on anything. Nobody has provided a source for any statement at all. I'm just reacting to your initial assertion that I'm a bogan. You're being a child here buddy. Screaming insults and then fuming when insults come back and acting as you've defeated me on some technicality.
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>>173044604
> They aren't indifferent to him in the least, and even if they were it wouldn't reflect well on him.
Why ? Japanese opinion has no influence on Trump's performance regardless if they like him or not.

Japanese may not like people who speak their mind. So they may have been skeptical about Trump's performance at the start. But, they can see he's not as bad as all the fearmongering media have claimed.

Also, Issues with Prime minister Abe, are more domestic and have nothing to do with Trump.

lets not turn this thread political, btw.
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>>173044336
Is this what americans look like
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Best Ship nothing else compares
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>>173043664
as a poster or cover page, yes.

i get what he was going for, emphasizing how much of a danger Overhaul's hands are, and how he's trying convey that sense of terror to the readers (nevermind fulfilling his love for drawing hands), but he really could use some extra time thinking it through. it wouldn't be strange if people who know nothing about the series or have no idea of the context thought it looks like an overgrown Overhaul is making a swipe at Deku.
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>>173044336
How mad would /a/ be if Hori drew her holding up one of her pastel namesakes?

Which one would it be?
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>>173044604
This is your brain on onions.
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>>173044405
>He even openly admits that his assistants have to draw characters for him since they can do character designs better and faster.
background characters, yeah. but that's their job. see, pic related, a crowd in rurouni kenshin drawn by oda.
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>>173044239
Just common sense
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>>173045390
bakugo and anybody is a bad ship because hes toxic as fuck. nobody would ever be good enough for him.
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>>173045182
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/life/2017/10/30/language/lets-discuss-donald-trumps-popularity-japan/#.Wv2o4Ze-nIU
>Support for the United States in Japan has dropped to the lowest level in nine years and only a quarter of Japanese say they have confidence in U.S. President Donald Trump’s policies, according to a survey released Oct. 17.
>The survey found that 24 percent expressed confidence in Trump doing the right thing regarding world affairs, down from 78 percent in 2016 who had confidence in his predecessor, Barack Obama.
https://www.quora.com/How-is-Donald-Trump-viewed-in-Japan
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/11/03/opinions-in-asian-countries-on-trump-trip/
Japan loved Obama and hates Trump and no amount of lies or opinions from you will change that. These claims you're making about how they think he's 'not as bad as all the fearmongering media have claimed' are 100% things you made up, personally, based on your own feelings. Japanese people have no reason to respect a man whose policies do nothing to benefit their country and whose mannerisms insult it and its people.
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>>173045657
Not the guy you're responding to but what exactly did Obama do that benefited Japan? Other than smile? I'm genuinely curious.
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>>173045471
"Eat This"
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>>173045576
reread the series last year & noticed them too. heck, some of the background foliage in the chapters where Misao was following Kenshin reminded me of early OP backgrounds, especially during Ussopp's arc.
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>>173045581
Jesus, Mr goldstein really train you gullible cunts well.
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>>173045730
look, is captain kuro!
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>>173044220
But it would be extremely painful
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Someone post that Captain Tsubasa panel flow.
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>>173045657
You do realise that "being nice in public" is literally what determines likeness in places like Japan.
Obama didn't do anything, but he acted "nice" in public.
Most Japanese have no clue about American policies.
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>>173045713
not that youve done any research and just blindly fart out questions but in 2011 in the wake of the tohoku earthquake and tsunami obama organized operation tomodachi to provide disaster relief.
the minister of japans defense even personally thanks the us saying theyre glad to have us as an ally which im sure went a long way with the japanese public
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>>173044239
The man's a fucking perfect storm of everything the japs hate.

The only thing he might got going for him nip-wise is his penchant for sexual assault.
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>>173045713
Not much. Globally, Obama was incredibly popular because he was charismatic and didn't take too many stupid risks with foreign policy. For Japan and most other countries that was plenty.

Trump, on the other hand, resonated with Americans because he's so America-focused, but this means that the rest of the world is naturally going to be more hostile.
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which jump series right now has a good panel flow?
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Why aren't there any characters with autism in the series? Does he hate them?
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>>173041195
His art style and character design is where he succeeds at, but his paneling and fight choreography can be absolutely ass at times.
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>>173046013
autism is a spectrum disorder
there are people with autism that can pass as being normal theyre just odd or think strangely
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>>173046013
iida
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>>173045910
And you do realize that the question being posed here was not 'What's so good about Obama' but 'Do Japanese actually hate Trump'. They do. Don't try and shift the goalposts.
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>>173043847
>how dare they make fun of my politics! impeach now!
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>>173045910
You're like Sisyphus except you're moving the fucking goalposts instead of a rock.
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>>173041700
While the anime is a very faithful adaptation I legitimately think you lose out without Hori's artwork. Just looking at Muscular in the original art vs his anime art makes a huge difference.
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>>173041195
Its above average. But certainly not close to being top-tier. Tbh in a way it lacks the recognizability of the artstyle. For example the creator of Zatch Bell or Rave Master have both unique artstyles, even if they do another work one easily recognizes theirs without even reading the series.
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>>173046013
What about Todoroki or Deku?
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>>173046013
Japan struggles to even recognize that autism exists. It's grouped in with other "communication disorders".
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What do you expect the most from the anime?

>Horikoshi: Definitely the action parts. Like how the characters will move. I’ve received comments like “the action parts are really hard to understand” for this series, and I think only the anime can really show the action parts easily.

(2016)
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C'mon, this thread is certainly not meant for politics, just go on another board
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>>173043571
Agree. Bleach also has a really great panelling.
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>>173046013
Japan's highly social culture and a mental issue that inhibits that doesn't exactly go hand in hand, anon.
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>>173046013
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>>173045910
And you do realize that the question being posed here was not 'What's so good about Obama' but 'Do Japanese actually hate Trump'. They do. Don't try and shift the goalposts.
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>>173046157
>Tbh in a way it lacks the recognizability of the artstyle.
are you kidding me? his style is quite remarkable.

mashima style is unique my ass. he's just oda with cheese.
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>>173046157
Maybe it's just for you. I easily recognize Horikoshi's style even if I don't know it's his work and it's not related to mha(like his star wars poster)
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>>173046209
A shitty bait/stealth recommendation thread deserves political shitflinging.
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>>173044319
>>173043962
>>173044383
>>173044604
>>173045182
>>173045657
>Japanese media
>Trusting マスゴミ
>Using the opinion of one English speaking Nip as representative of all of their opinions

The real answer is it's mixed and it swings. A lof of them really liked him talking shit about NK and bringing up the kidnappings. 2ch users basically thinks he's a meme. Anti-US Nips liked his promise about closing down the Okinawa bases. They find some of his idiosyncracies hilarious. Some see him as a joke, some see him as an opportunity for Japan.

Also, a lot of internet savvy Nips actually know about Obama's drone bombings and don't like him. You're really the one lying here, representing Japanese public opinion in "they like him/they hate him" absolutes.
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What happens when a person is born with an incredibly strong quirk but they're mentally retarded? Like, so retarded that they just scream and try to bite people. Wouldn't they be a danger to society?
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>>173046215
Maybe at the beginning, but near the end it's generic af
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>>173046369
The Japanese government sells them to All for One.
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>>173044360
Imo it has a shitton of details but sometimes less is better. Hori likes to add a lot of detail to the costumes and given this is a superhero manga it makes kinda sense to have flashy clothes but it will be superhard to draw as well as keep it consistent, for example Hori himself admitted he somtimes forget to draw Kirishimas scar over his right eye. Wouldnt be suprised if more details are forgotten along the way.
Anyway, the costume i like the most is probably Monomas. Looks like a normal dude and it has flair. No idea if it would really help him in fights but it looks nice.
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>>173046369
They just get restrained, like Bakugou during Sports Festival. It's not like I'm implying he is retarded...except that i do
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>>173046369
t a r t a r u s
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>>173042587
He needs to work on action chroegraphy and paneling.

Paneling is hard to improve, as you kind of need to study other forms of media to be great at it if you don't have a naturl knack for it, but his choreography was getting better in the latest fight.
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>>173045946
Kimetsu no Yaiba and Black Clover. Bleach was good too.
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>>173046369
A shitton of sedatives in a mental hospital.
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Best
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>>173042737
The most talented artist is probably Boichi for Shonen Jump. His stuff is on par with Murata, I'd say.
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>>173046293
"Was" Oda with cheese.

true his early art were clearly him trying to emulate Oda. even his attempts at inserting wacky / weird characters feel half-assed & artificial in design. throughout FT, he did find a style he could call his own. now he just needs to learn to make a good plot & story.
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Wait, two bnha threads? I'm confused do i post in here or the other general?
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>>173046293
I wouldnt really be able to tell his art out from ten other shounens.
> mashima style is unique my ass. he's just oda with cheese.
You confuse "unique" with "good". You surely would recognize ONE's version of OPM, doesnt mean its better than other ones.
>>173046322
> Maybe it's just for you.
Could be.
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>>173046575
the fanart is being quarantined in the other thread, anon
>>173046612
this one has actual discussion
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>>173041195
I really like it. It has a distinct style to it and is very pleasing to look at.
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>>173046403
It was good for quite a while. I wouldnt say it went down up to the last arc. Only there the artstyle became very black/white and the panelling became basic (strangely even at that point i cant say the panelling ever became bad).
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>>173041195
Good but could have been great had Hori taken a slight turn in direction for bnha.
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>>173046594
The close-up face panels he creates in Dr.Stone are just superb. And i still cant believe he actually has 2 so incredibly different artstyles. If i didnt know better i would swear Origin/Shunken-rock and Dr.Stone are from two totally different artists.
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>>173046636
But frogposting is exempt from quarantine?>>173046717
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>>173046717
>normal eyes
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>>173046597
> now he just needs to learn to make a good plot & story.
Read Rave Master for that. He did one of the best character deaths i can remember. Actually made me shed a tear after learning what happened.
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>>173042280
thats a really nice hand OwO
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>>173046633
mashima style is a rip-off of oda style.

plus: murata has no style at all.
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>>173046594
>The most talented artist is probably Boichi for Shonen Jump
NOT EVEN CLOSE.
>>173046754
>And i still cant believe he actually has 2 so incredibly different artstyles. If i didnt know better i would swear Origin/Shunken-rock and Dr.Stone are from two totally different artists.
You're joking right? They're all the same artstyle. Stone is just more simplified but the basis is still the same.
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>>173041195
I like it. However, I've been rereading the early chapters and Deku has a much cooler, distinct look there.
>>173046771
The other thread has ochakofag and inflation porn in it
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>>173046712
> Deku has hardening
> Bakugou has Creation
> everyone thinks he is weak now, Deku suddenly finds his balls and wants to take revenge
> bakugou creates a gatlin gun and KOs him in 10 seconds
Would love to see that manga desu.
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>>173041700
being an anime only its suffering we are 50+ episodes away of the manga.
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>>173046916
why not just read the manga
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>>173046885
Or grenades since HardDeku could tank them
Also
>taller tomboy Momo bullying Deku
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>>173046195
Wtf is up with those proportions
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>>173046960
No she would bully the big-hand girl since i once saw a poster with her having OFA.
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>>173046998
Even better
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>>173046047
>but his paneling and fight choreography can be absolutely ass at times.
He has some of the most creative layouts of any Jump mangaka next to Togashi
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>>173046998
Wouldn't she bully Kirishima since he swapped with Deku
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>>173047129
Did he get OFA as well?
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>>173047096
Creative =/= good.
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>>173047225
creative and good
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why is hori obsessed with hands?
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>>173046047
>his paneling and fight choreography can be absolutely ass at times

What kinda times are we talking about here?
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>>173047096
That img is good for a poster or a standalone picture. But its not really that dynamic given the fast-paced high-stake situation they are in.
That picture would be a FANTASTIC cover for the arc imo. But getting through each panel and understanding what happened takes time which makes the fast-pacing the context gave us not keep up. Thats the reason a lot of people say the panelling (most of the time) and the choreography (sometimes) needs more work.
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>>173045427
>as a poster or cover page, yes.
Good thing its a fucking splash page you fucking idiot.

>t wouldn't be strange if people who know nothing about the series or have no idea of the context thought it looks like an overgrown Overhaul is making a swipe at Deku.

Unless you're really fucking stupid no that's not the case.
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>>173047303
> at times
> meaning: not always
> posting one of the times where it wasnt ass
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>>173047096
Don't get me wrong that page looks really good, but creative paneling doesn't equate to paneling that adds extra an "oomph" to action or fights. Last time I checked, Dragon Ball doesn't have all that creative paneling, but the still has some of the best fight choreography and paneling in shonen manga.
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>>173043571
>I know I'll get shitposter to death but black clovers panel flow is fantastic.
This is considered fantastic
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>>173047336
>Good thing its a fucking splash page you fucking idiot
So neither of the things anon said.
You're an enormous moron.
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>>173047373
Hence why I asked the question. There are times when it's just the shitty magazine scans and such that make things hard to make out and some people can take that as somehow being the author's fault.
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>>173047096
Its a damn shame how understated that aspect of Horikoshi's art is because all people here care about are the fights.

>Follow the bullet
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Horikoshi draws really well, although he has trouble with action scenes but going by Gentle fight he's getting better at it.
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>>173047387
>Last time I checked, Dragon Ball doesn't have all that creative paneling, but the still has some of the best fight choreography and paneling in shonen manga.
DBs benefit has always been that it was fast paced but its a pretty boring read when the focus is not on action set pieces also Toriyama's choreography gets much weaker as it goes on and at a certain point the only benefit that the manga has is that it never stops.
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>>173047549
Tbh i cant say its that good. The bullet isnt leading ones eyes from one speech bubble to the next so that a seemless connection exists. If i just look at the panels than yeah, it works really well.
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>>173046828
In Shonen Jump right now? Boichi definitely is the best out of all the other artists. Nobody is close to him there.
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>>173047837
Are you really this retarded?
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>>173047910
He is right, though.
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>>173047909
>Boichi definitely is the best out of all the other artists.
His character designs are ass and he clutters panels as badly as Oda does. His coloring is also shitty
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>>173046195
When will Deku breed her?
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>>173047910
But he's not wrong?
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>>173047950
>>173047987
No need to samefag
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>>173047549
The bullet adds nothing to the page.
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>>173047837
>The bullet isnt leading ones eyes from one speech bubble to the next so that a seemless connection exists.
The bullet is on the center page showcasing the flow from the present to the past hence why it stops on the bottom right panel.
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>>173048094
But the flashbacks panels follow each other chronologically.
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>>173047973
>mfw I was about to start shipping DekuToga, but then I realized them actually getting together would probably ruin their dynamic and why people like her character so much.
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>>173048032
> i-it must be a samefag, cant be two people agreeing to a normal post
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>>173048050
The bullet is the transition
>>173048166
>I don't know how mangaflow works
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>>173045838
he is a big guy
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>>173048218
Wait fuck no
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is the risk even worth it?
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>>173048348
Yeah, the only way I see Deku Toga working out is if she somehow gets redeemed and Deku turns her good/less crazy. That or she somehow steals his semen while he's knocked out.
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>>173048509
I'd die a happy man if I could pass my genes through Toga
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>>173046013
everyone is autistic in japan already
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>>173048509
The risk of getting her pregnant?
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>>173046013
Iida, Todo, Frogbitch and Inasa are all pretty autistic
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>>173048688
Thailand arc when?
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>>173048537
>steals his semen while he's knocked out.
succubus mode on
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>>173043796
wtf I love donald trump now!
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>>173048804
NEXT WEEK
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Best ship here!
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>>173048924
How come femBaku and femDeku are better girls than a majority of the female cast we actually have?
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>>173045934
>resonated with Americans
Less than half of Americans
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>>173048804
The Thailand arc, when worst boy turns into best girl.
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>>173049057
>Best ship
>Not Togawice
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>>173049393
How old is Twice?
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>>173047303
This type of good dynamism is extremely rare in this manga.
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>>173046403
I'd argue Kubo's level of detail went way down so with less scenery to place yourself in things became more disjointed, but the paneling itself was still pretty top-tier. I can't think of a mangaka that exemplifies style over substance more than end-of-Bleach Kubo. His sense for interesting character design is what kept the series alive for so long IMO.
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>Good thread with actual discussion
>faggot starts posting his waifus
I hate this fucking fanbase
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>>173049540
>implying this doesn't happen with every wsj shonen
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>>173047096
Your page is literally an example of stylish paneling that does nothing to guide the reader. It's not really built to read as a comic page so much as made to maximize interesting things to look at.

This is still a storytelling medium, a perfect page shouldn't feel like a page in a Where's Waldo book with readers dashing their eyes back and forth to take everything in, it should lead them through the event that the page is depicting.
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>>173049540
>thread with decent discussion
>avatarfagging/waifuposting/countershitposting commences
>thread derailed
>someone makes new thread
>cancer spools over into new thread slowly dying down
>discussion starts back up
>repeat above
Retards need to stop making multiple threads. Its going to be a big step but at least it'll be forward.
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>>173047303
>Deku moving laterally in defense
>Action shot of opponent's body being upside down and action lines moving...up?
>Deku still moving laterally this is good
>Oh wait no Bakugou was moving down not up, and has moved further to the left than the laterally moving Deku without any indication of him ever moving faster or passing Deku.

Chalk it up to H-hayai! but I wouldn't want to call this good choreography. Deku's panels are good and show his intentions, but in the payoff panel not only is your sense of which character is where messed with by breaking the 180-degree rule without telling you enough about what Bakugou is doing or how he arrived at his destination. The large panel is trying to communicate two things:
>Deku's guard is broken
>Bakugou went over his head

But the way the last panel is framed, mostly Bakugou being in a landing position already it looks more like Bakugou shot something over Deku's head. Not to mention Bakugou's panel of being in the air is read before Deku's panel of preparing to block with his knee, which messes with your perception of events since if I know that Bakugou is in the air by now Deku should too. Good art, consistent level of detail, still has weak choreography.
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>>173049787
Horikoshi is a big fan of the American comics of superheroes and in this last the paneling are always out of sync with the reader's eye, giving a certain flatness to the scenes of actions, always very beautiful to see but with a virtually absent movement . Is it possible that this aspect has also resumed? I hope not
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>>173047549
It would be cool if the bullet also remained the focal point of the panels that it's in, but instead I'm just having my eye drawn through the speech bubbles. Speedreaders aren't even gonna notice, and people that do just have two lines of direction through the page. It's cool don't get me wrong but it doesn't actually do anything.
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>>173050144
I agree, American comics I think mastered the spectacle page a long time ago and cape comics especially can have incredible spreads, but trying to read some capes gives me eye cancer from the complete lack of attention to panel flow. I'm in the camp that the unit of measurement for a comic should be the page, and it seems like a lot of American style is about maximizing the page without linking one to the other in any particular way.
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sunshine
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When spoilers
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>>173045576
damn oda working for a pedo
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>>173047549
You have no idea what flow and good paneling are
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>>173044079
Funny enough the plain looking kid has some of the best poses and expressions
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MINETA X MOMO EPIC FTW! UPTOKE IF YOU AGREE :::DDDDDD
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>>173050946
fukin ebin
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>>173050946
Why doesn't Momo just launch a cannonball out of her back and swat him away? Unless she wants him to do that.
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>>173050914
Deku dive kick when?
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>>173041195
Hori has actually just started to handle fights well.

Bakugo 2 and Gentle are the best drawn fights in the series.
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This series went to shit faster than Naruto, why is it still so popular here
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>>173051323
> asks why Momo isnt creative
Come on anon. That is a 3rd class tier problem. You can answer it alone.
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>>173043847
Based redditposter.
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>>173050946
Based Mineta
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>>173041195
I love how he draws teeth. Always have.
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>>173050946
Based
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>>173045585
This
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>>173049787
>Your page is literally an example of stylish paneling that does nothing to guide the reader
I think yoy might just be rerarded anon
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>>173049787
>Your page is literally an example of stylish paneling that does nothing to guide the reader
1- Overhaul in the present throws the bullet
2 - One of the bullet falls in place
3- We then see the bullet fall into past Overhauls hands as we transition to a flashback
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Anon...why are we still here? Just to suffer? Every night, I can feel my posts...And my quality posts...even my shit ones...The on topic discussions I've lost...the quality anons I've lost...it won't stop hurting...It's like they're all still there. You feel it, too, don't you? I'm the one who got caught up with the derailers, a group above all posters, even the regular shitposters, and i was the leech below feeding off newfags' tears. They came after you after the culture festival arc then the prison break arc. Animeonlys just...keep growing swallowing everything in its path, getting bigger and bigger. Who knows how big now…Anon…I’m gonna make ‘em give back our manga…Take back everything that we’ve lost. And I won’t rest…until we do. Our new My Boku No Hero Academia. I don’t know how long it’ll take, but I’ll make it bigger… better than before… Anon
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>>173041195
>CTRL+F "Hero" in the catalog
>FOUR (4) [shinnen] My Hero Academia generals pop out

Hmmmmmm...!
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>>173052859
>Type in Hero Aca instead.
>Two results, one of them just a odd one, most of the other hero results are Dragonball.

Hmmmmmmm...
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>>173049540
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>>173052568
I agree with this anon, the panel direction is extremely clear, the focal point is the hand, particularly the pointer finger, then you circle around the hand, only to end at Overhaul and Deku about to kick. Overhaul's presence in all of the panels indicates that he's doing this action throughout the entire time of the page.
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>>173053039
Is this a banner yet? It should be a banner. It's beautiful.
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>>173051403
When he gets a scarf.
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>>173053445
So probably never then.
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>>173048804
>>173049343

I wonder if someone who can transform people back and forth between male and female could be a good hero. It'd depend a bit on whether they have good control over the transformation, like if every man has one female form they can be turned into and every woman one male, or if they can decide things about what they turn someone into, how masculine/feminine they end up or et cetera. The latter would obviously be very good and probably would amount to basically being able to take the appearance/physical traits of any human being, disguise yourself and others, et cetera, but even if it was just flipping between two positions it could have some uses. Turning someone into the opposite sex in the middle of a fight would probably fuck up their coordination and make them more clumsy as well as causing distress for some people to help distract them, and it could also be used to make yourself smaller to fit into more places during rescue/infiltration, have more upper body strength when you need it, et cetera et cetera.

And of course you'd make mad bank.
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>>173050946
Waiting for the day Todoroki burns this little dwarf alive.
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>>173053648
So basically Ivankov, but the hormones are the quirk?
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>>173054016
More limited than Ivankov since he has a range of other hormones to use as well. But the sex change stuff, basically.

There have to be people with quirks that make people go "wow perfect for a pervert" and I wouldn't put it past Hori to include that sort of thing if it wasn't entirely blatant.
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>>173047081
nice filename
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>>173045390
>Someone Else Ships Kacchan Barking Toad.
...Why can I hear the intro to that Angry Kid Special?
https://youtu.be/sUKsSUwHFu0?t=98
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>>173041195
He is above-average in terms of design and posing (though his skills are rather hit-or-miss,) but he draws some of the most godforsaken, vomit-inducingly UGLY faces I have ever been subjected to viewing.
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>>173046334
>[EUGENICS] dictates that their kid would be a Cyclops knockoff
Just as god intended.
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>>173050946
Why does /a/ love this pairing so much?

I feel like I'm the only girl who likes TodoMomo.
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>>173046788
...Why are they making a Live Action Naruto film?

Haven't they learned anything from past attempts to adapt Anime to this medium?
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>>173048218
Oh hey a Parasyte gif, I wonder when I was going to see one of those.
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>>173054388
Either that or vision-based longrange telepathy
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>>173054393
No one loves this pairing, it's just pure shit posting.
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>>173041195
>How do you judge kohei horikoshi for his art skills?
Based off how much thiccness he can fit in his panels.
For all the flamewars this manga fans. All can agree that Hori is a individual of impeccable taste and exceptional at projecting that in the women he draws.
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>>173053624
You gotta believe.
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>>173054826
Hori is a man of taste, nothing new here.
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Who else is super hyped for the Rinkan Gasshuku Arc Finale and literally couldn't care less about the spoilers / chapter tomorrow?
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>>173054736
shut the fuick up
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>>173041195
Don't care for it, strays too much into the generic manga art style.
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Momo is for _____________
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>>173055541
Love!
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>>173055541
Poop
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it is ok I guess
still like Oda better
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>>173055675
Make sense, Her power is like pooping...and so is her making babies with Shoto.
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>>173041700
t. Animeonly
The BNH anime isn't even that much more colourful than your standard anime. If anything the manga's black and white palette really accentuates some moments. There's no depressing feel to the manga at all.
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>>173054388
Fire Breathing/Telepathy + Long Range Vision = Lasers?
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>>173043512
The designs in this show are pretty good, but I gotta agree that handfags design is pretty terrible.
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>>173056153
He'd spray fire from his eyes
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where are the spoilers?
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>>173055541
>>173050946
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>>173056209
No chapter this week same as One Piece
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>>173056249
Seriously?
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>>173050946
All is as it should be.
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>>173056196
oh okay, but it would be pointless though, spraying fire from your eyes doesn't improve on the original quirk, weakass eugenics.
Dragon MILF and Izuku = fire-breathing dragon
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Art - god tier but drops a bit in non-action scenes sometimes, most likely him trying to rest
Choreography - definitely improving
Paneling - not bad but no excellent or special either, he does seem to be trying interesting stuff sometimes, pic related
did a miss an aspect?
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>>173056587
>That page
No wonder why he's fucking dying more recently. Did no one ever tell him that less is more?
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>>173056796
What the fuck are you talking about?
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It's their Time.
Next Arc
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Jirou is for _____________
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>>173056796
I feel like Horikoshi would be SO much better working on a monthly schedule, he's really damn good but he just takes way too long to plan and draw his chapters, most of the time he has to tone down his original idea or leave details out or just plain leave panels incomplete. I'd like to see what Hori would be able to produce on a more lenient schedule.
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>>173056983
Sounding muh dik
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>>173056977
Why is Kirishima naked in this shot?
Not that I mind it, though.
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>>173057136
He took his shirt off during the concert
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>>173056983
Double dates
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>>173056998
I agree with this. Some artists have good base styles but won't really utilize the extra time aside from just more content and more detail. Murata and Hori would/are able to provide much more complex and perspective heavy art with the extra time.
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>>173057251
It's so nice that Kaminari and Todoroki came out as gay and became a couple
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Posting best girl.
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God I fucking hate that Western brainlet "eugenics" posting.

Nobody in Japan does this - you know why? Because your entire premise is based on your lack of understanding of Japanese. Quirks do not mix. Hori explicitly explained that Bakugo has his father's quirk, mutated, which he can use separately/independently of his mother's quirk.
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spoilers when
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>>173057339
Fuck off Grape
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^ You're so pathetic you're not even worth a you.
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post your edgiest AU's
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>>173057645
What did she draw for her lover, Deku?
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>>173057136
He's jealous of what happened at the slu-sleep over.
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>>173056977
Fuck off, no more school shit
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>>173057654
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>>173056983
Backstabbing
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>>173057654
>Edgy black vest villain Deku
I want to beat the shit out of whoever started this meme.
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>>173057692
yo that's gay
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>>173056249
Why are you lying?
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>>173057742
Whoa anon. They're just being bros. Quit looking to much into it.
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>>173057283
They’re not even next to each other.
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>>173057170
Holy fuck, I didn't even notice it. I wish Hori would undress him more.
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>>173057804
Jirou and Momo are lesbians though so it's the only explanation.
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>>173041700
imagine being this big of a casual
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>>173057922
You’re giving a bad name to the kind /u/ poster. Don’t be rude.
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>>173044079
No joke, Overhaul has a top tier design despite how simple it is.
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>>173057970
I don't know why you think I'm being "rude" when I'm just stating canon information
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>>173049540
Beats the fucking fatposting
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>>173044079
i unironically love deku's costume
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>>173057654
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Can someone edit ochako as the fat kid and the other ua students as the crowd
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>>173058015
Show some respect. No pairings are canon.
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>>173057928
I refuse to read niggerstream. It's completely unreadable trash filled with niggerspeak and leddit inserts everywhere.

I'll gladly read it when a non subhuman is translating it, or the reptilian overlords grant me japanese knowledge.
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>>173058153
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Will the unfinished chapter ever have the missing art completed or will it be left as is?
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>>173057654
There is another AU where pic related is MC and has to deal with his villainous quirk and the overhyped U.A.
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>>173057339
Funny considering your entire premise is based on severe lack of reading comprehension. Get the fuck out of here pedro.
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>>173058267
Bakugou and Iida's heavily autistic child
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>>173058250
It'll be half a chapter of rough sketches of Hori practicing Eri's next smile.
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>>173057136
We have to go further, he needs to strip all the way down to the motherfucking bone for shamefully imitating his idol like the copycat fake fuck of a man he is..
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>>173058250
They usually fix it in the volumes
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>>173058305
Stop projecting your inability to read onto me.

Bakugo doesn't need to use his sweat ability to make small explosions. This is a canon fact.

Your entire "eugenics" crineposting is based on your inability to read, projecting-Pedro (yes I saw your YT channel so I know you're the actual border-hopper-wannabe here).
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>>173058305
Stop fucking responding to Grape
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>>173058448
>tfw i have hyperhidrosis
if i was bakugo, i don't think i'd have many friends
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>>173058448
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>>173058566
STOP GIVING IT (YOU)S
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>>173058553
use drysol nigga
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>>173058374
My edgelord within me slowly nods in agreement, smiling maniacally, but my sensitive side that loves that gullible dork protests against it. I don't know who to listen to.
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>>173058491
>>173058566
>Look at this shitty translation that directly contradicts Hori's canon facts! Look!!!
Learn Japanese or fuck off.
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>>173058633
Kys Patreak
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>>173058583
>>173058667
Translation:
>You're making us look bad by using these non-argument badly translated pages!

What you just posted means literally nothing, >>173058448 is inarguable canon.
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>>173058448
>Watches anime theories on jewtube
Everything that you say for the rest of your life is now rendered irrelevant. Please use this time to learn how to read.
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>>173058614
Listen to your inner Gigantomachia, you too will fuck something up so bad it wont matter anymore.
Non of it will. You'll just sit naked in the woods listening to the weather broadcast and occasionally fuck up guys your old pal tells you to smack around.
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>>173058682
t. Patreak
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>>173058593
how effective is it? i'll give it a shot but i have it in my hands, feet, pits, and ass so i feel like it'd get expensive really fast
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>>173058706
Keep dreaming, Pedro. I wasn't actually watching your videos - you're again projecting yourself onto me.
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>>173058737
i can plug up ur ass with my dick
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>>173046334
>Mei is still the only confirmed member of Team Deku as his official support specialist
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>>173058737
really fucking effective.
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>>173058374
He's different from that.....freak. Kirishima WILL carry the Riot Mantle. HE WILL BE A BETTER MAN THAN THE CRIMSON. HE'LL KEEP HIS IDEALS.
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>>173058737
It has annoying side effects. Red painful rashes so careful.
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Is he just being retarded on purpose now? Bakugos dad has oxidizing sweat that’s can cause little explosions but he can’t secrete it on purpose, his mom produces glycerin and secrete when she wants. Put them together and you get bakugo.
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>>173058876
>>173059017
thanks. i'll definitely look more into it
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>>173058858
WHY COULDN'T MEI BE THE MAIN FEMALE HORRIIIII SHE JUST NEEDED SOME REASON TO BE HERO COURSE INSTEAD OF SUPPORT COURSE
>Deku trips walking into UA
>Grabbed from behind by a robot net thing
>Mei shows off her baby and talks so much that Deku can't get a word in
>Leaves
>Same "I talked to a girl (didn't actually talk)" gag
>Mei EMPs the robots
>Still gets stuck under rubble, her baby breaks so she can't get out
>Deku saves her the same way
>Instead of making Deku float Mei pulls a panel off of one of the robots and quickly wires it to be controllable or to protect the kids or something
>Has it fly up and catch him midair
>She doesn't try to give him her points but they both still get in anyway because rescue points
>They connect since Mei is basically quirkless
>She becomes a Winry character that hooks Deku up with all kinds of stuff that helps him control OfA
>More scenes of Mei having no sense of boundaries or personal space
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>>173058979
>Have the skin punched of your arms
>No scars
Ok Hori.
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>>173041195
>for me it is one of the best for shonen.
he's no OG though
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>>173059186
>a fucking stick
vs.
>a fucking glacier
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>>173059211
Don't you know Deku is the only one who can look cool?
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>>173059186
Why couldn't we have tan Momo
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>>173059260
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>>173059303
I don't remember if its in the manga, but in the anime I remember seeing Iida having a scar on his shoulder from when Stain stabbed him.
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>>173059652
I don't remember that at all
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>>173047415
>Cherrypicking
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>>173059303
This. Only Deku is allowed to have scars to show off his self sacrifice and heroism.
>>173059652 Iida is never relevant in the manga so who the fuck cares about him? Besides hori never showed off Iida's scars anymore so fuck him I guess. Only the MC matters.
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>>173056162
Go and stay go. Shiggy is best boy
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>>173050501
Oda literally bailed out the Toriko mangaka after he was caught paying for underage prostitutes
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WHERE

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THE

FUCKING

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>>173059890
5
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>>173041195
Ojiro is not autismo
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>>173047837
>>173047950
>>173047987
>I saw one Eyepatch Wolf video and am too retarded to actively apply the concepts in it so I just use them as a catch all blanket that all pages should adhere to at all times
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>>173059929
t-thank you?
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>>173058237
>parka
This isn't just bad translating. This is being a retard
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>>173044360
>IG Commissar with Power Fist and Power Armor
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>>173060050
The Japanese call all hoodies parkas
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>>173060050
That is just what Japan calls hoodies.
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>>173059967
>Eyepatch Wolf
Nigga who?
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>>173059652
it's there
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>>173060127
>>173060117
>knowing this
fucking weebs
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>>173060127
Well fuck me
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>Is My Hero Academia Killing its Creator Kohei Horikoshi?
It's killing youtubers because they have to create clickbait after clickbait
It's killing fans because they have to invent excuse after excuse for the unfinished drawings last chapter
It's killing WSJ because fanboys are now saying there's only the Big 2 with OP and BnHA
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>>173060311
as compensation, it's giving a whole new life to shitposting neets on /a/, so there's that.
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>Kirishima development
>it's too long
>Aoyama development
>it's too short
>Jirou development
>nobody cares plus the art sucks

He can't do anything right
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>>173060358
It's fucking cancer, I can't believe I watched the video halfway. He says that it's because of this newfound popularity that Hori is pressuring himself to live up to Oda's expectations that's why the manga was unfinished
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>>173060374
kys Aoyama and Kirishima development was top-tier
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>>173060311
>It's killing youtubers because they have to create clickbait after clickbait
Anime tubers have been doing this forever. Anime channels are the worst offenders of clickbait on YouTube
>It's killing fans because they have to invent excuse after excuse for the unfinished drawings last chapter
Golden week. He had to submit two chapters at the same time
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>>173060409
>Oda's expectations
What in the fuck who thinks like this
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>>173060374
>Kirishima development
Was thrown into an awkward place that killed the flow of the arc and fight
>Aoyama development
It didn't develop shit
>Jirou development
It didn't develop shit
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>>173060415
Kirishima's was lame and Aoyama was just vague

>uh oh kiri has a tragic backstory
>oh wait lol he's just a pusst
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>>173060409
>>173060518
Is it that idiot Joyboy again?
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>>173060499
>Golden week. He had to submit two chapters at the same time
I don't believe it. All the other authors had to submit 2 chapters at the same time too, what gives for him?

>>173060518
Anime youtubers. That nigga was slurping all over Hori's cock in the video like white on rice I couldn't stand watching it.
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>>173060565
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tDMc8m7x2E
The nigga's even glorifying reactors.

Reactors.

How low can a fanbase go before it's truly become fucking terrible?
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>>173060582
Black Clover had the same issue. Some panels were rough sketches. Hori is an inexperience Mangaka. It makes sense that maybe his time management isn't the best
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>>173060582
Black Clover's art was unfinished too and One Piece's chapter was half the length of the usual chapters
Everyone suffered from Golden Week, not just Hori
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>>173060655
>>173060656
>arguing with retards
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>>173060631
I'm not clicking that shit but yeah this series has attracted the worst kind of cancer. Also, Hori is a lazy fucking hack he could've just left 181 unfinished instead but he jerked off to infinity war.
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>>173060702
Why'd you do that
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>>173060631
hori is fucking pathetic desu
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>>173058711
>you too will fuck something up so bad it wont matter anymore
Check.
>You'll just sit naked in the woods listening to the weather broadcast
I'm scared to go outside.
>and occasionally fuck up guys
My hands are too weak though.
>your old pal tells you to smack around
I don't have any old pals.
All I have are you, anons.
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>>173060631
I won't lie I honestly enjoy reactors who watch the thing for half the video and then discuss it and give their thoughts & predictions for the other half or more
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>>173060269
I mean, it's still kind of dumb. A decent translator would have called it a hoodie or one of the other actual English words used to describe it. Anyone who's taken even a basic language course would know about false friends.
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>>173060582
Other mangas suffered as well
BC had scribbles, OP had fewer pages...
And some people aren't always at their best when working under harsh deadlines, just accept it
Statistically, it only affects 2% of chapters, chapters most of the readers here don't pay for but still complain about
Let people that enjoy this series worry about its author, it's not really rare for people in the manga industry to overwork themselves
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>>173060655
>>173060656
This shit again. There was nothing unfinished about BC's art last chapter. How about looking into other manga? The last time BC had unfinished art, it was the chapter with 4 double pages. And OP having fewer pages isn't an exception either. Still past 15 pages.
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>>173041195
Definitely on of the best two artists in WSJ and in general one of the best mangakas currently. His line flow makes me hard.
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>>173060631
The fanbase is already fucking terrible.
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>>173060794
>There was nothing unfinished about BC's art last chapter
Have you seen it?
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>>173060794
Did you see the pages? They were very clearly rough sketches
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>>173060786
>Other mangas suffered as well
Again, post fucking panels. I ain't believing fanon, because that's what it is. This whole golden week excuse I've only heard for MHA, never for all the past golden weeks. Unless something changed for this one, then Hori just got tired or something. You don't have to justify it, he's human too.
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>>173060861
>I need to be spoonfed everything in order for you to make a point
Why don't you go look at the chapters yourself?
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>>173060721
Because I wanted to share my dream with you
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>>173060860
>>173060836
>still responding
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>Black Clover fags honestly can't tell the difference between their mangaka's artstyle and rough sketches
Is it the manga with the ugliest artstyle currently
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>>173041195
I like him
But ffs his fight panels are always a clusterfuck of heavy outlines and speed lines

Murata still have a better grasp of combat than him
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>>173060934
>one person is the whole fanbase
sasuga, retard
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>>173060836
>>173060860
I read the chapter. There was nothing unfinished about them. You don't have to drag in BC if the author there finished his work. I know what his unfinished art looks like.

>>173060899
For the ones I've read, there was nothing unfinished about them.
>Bokuben
>Dr Stone
>OP
>BnHA
>BC
>Haikyuu
I don't know about Zumou or Kimetsu or the others but I do know that out of those that I read, only BnHA had unfinished pages for Golden Week.
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>>173046712
Would fire Tokoyami's hero name be Yatagarasu?
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>>173060861
Chapter 155, go look at it and stop acting like a retard
Golden week means they have to put out 2 chapters in a week because their break means they can't work on the issue that comes out after the break, so some authors, like Horikoshi and Tabata, had rough chapters, and that's their justification
If you hate that manga so much that you can't even accept justification, why are you in a BnHA thread ?
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>this thread
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>>173061058
Nice reddit meme
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I want Aizawa to touch my thighs!
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>>173061121
>MHA subreddit is one of the biggest anime reddits
>expecting redditors to not be shitposting in these threads
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>>173061007
Look at the past 2 chapters of these
BC had rough art, OP had fewer pages, Haikyuu already has a pretty rough art style, and Dr Stone has a seperate author and artist (can't say anything about Bokuben, I don't read it)
You're embarassing yourself just to be an asshole
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>>173061051
>Chapter 155, go look at it and stop acting like a retard
That chapter had 4 double spreads. Nobody was raising the golden week excuse then.

>If you hate that manga so much that you can't even accept justification, why are you in a BnHA thread ?
What the fuck? So because I don't believe what fans consider as a truth because it's from the rumor mill, I hate the manga? This fanbase is really going to the dogs.
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>>173050089
Bakugou was charging at Deku, Deku went to kick him, and Bakugou shot upwards with an explosion to avoid the kick, and then used his explosion again to change direction and come back down behind him. Everything after Deku trying to kick happens in that final panel.
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It'a "anon who can't draw to save his life shits on good artists" thread
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>>173061121
why're you so negative? downvote.
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>>173061180
Look here genius >>173061189
>That chapter had 4 double spreads. Nobody was raising the golden week excuse then.
I was with you posting OH NO NO NO too.
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>>173061058
how is fanboying about the Avengers all week a criticism?
Everyone has been fanboying about the Avengers, Hori is a human being not a manga robot designed for our entertainment. Plus i mean...most of us fucking read it online for free so suck it up fuckers.
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>tfw can't even be autistic over ships and headcanons anymore because it'll be years before the manga gets enough momentum again for any of them to be remotely possible

So this...is the power...of SoL...
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>>173043282
Odas panelling seems to be his response to the anime being so close to the manga
It hurts the manga's visuals, but improves it's pacing
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>>173041195
The first volumes art were garbage, i dropped it , then picked up the anime, but current volume got pretty neat and stylish so i'm back on paper.
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>>173061223
>I was with you posting OH NO NO NO too.
Don't assume everyone posts in shonen fanbase war threads
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>>173061234
>power of SoL vs power of Friendship
This should entertaining to watch (not)
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>>173061273
Who gives a shit? My point is that I know what BC unfinished panels look like, and out of all the manga I read from WSJ weekly, only BnHA had unfinished drawings. I'm not saying Hori is bad for it, I'm not saying he's a bad artist, I'm saying that the fanbase is pathetic for INVENTING a reason for him, when thousands of Golden Weeks have come and pass yet this is the first time I've heard this excuse about drawing double chapters because somehow Hori can't make mistakes or is more than human somehow.

I wish this fanbase and its manchildren would grow the fuck up. You're just as pathetic as the youtuber I posted earlier.
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>>173061215
It's a "If you can't do it you have no right to criticize" post
Fuck out here with that shitty logic
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>>173044360
I honestly love ths design but what stops it from crossing into "over designed" territory?
Why does all this crazy shit work?
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>>173043282

What's good panelling?
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>>173061385
Of course it's a retarded Erifag too. Truly the most cancerous fandumb belongs to this shitty series.
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>>173061388
Nothing overlaps or gets int he way. There's a lot going on but it's not busy and you can tell where each and every part of the costume starts and ends
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>>173061385
Who cares about your criticizm if you don't know shit about things you're criticizing?
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>>173061436
Why listen to defenders if they don't know shit about what they're defending?
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>>173061436
>Movie critics can't criticise movies because they can't make movies
>Food critics cant criticise food because they can't cook to Michelin standard
>Music critics can't criticise music because they can't make music
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>>173059319
We do she's just in a different series
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>>173061510
>5head even bigger than Momo's
No thanks
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>>173061510
La creatura
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>>173061482
>>173061485
Well, if they don't know shit, there's no reason to listen to them
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>>173041195

He is only good at drawing people, but he's pretty good at doing that. You can also tell that an action manga is not his first choice because he choreography leaves something to be desired. The best example of both of the above points is the overhaul fight, where the action was hard to follow and the rocks looked like a mess, so the fight was basically just posing.
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>>173044239
Japanese media, maybe. The actual nip government didn't have a problem with him and his speech there was terrific.
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>>173061510
That's barely having any tits Momo not tan Momo.
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>>173061675
Low tier bait
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>>173061690
Yeah, even in his better fights he still does stuff like spreading a panels worth of motion into 2/3rds of a page, then crams a page's worth of motion into a single panel on the same page.
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>>173061787
>everything you don't understand is a bait
Sasuga /a/
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>>173061690
Agreed
I couldnt understand jackshit of OH fight

I thought I was becoming slowly retarded or something like that

Hori could learn Battle flow from Murata
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>>173043448
Is Megaman a hero in their world too?
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Reminder that the current slow pacing of the story after AM vs AfO is a good thing

Nigger Clover's shitty SoL arc only had 3 chapters while ours is fully fleshed out
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>>173044042
"kawabunga dude"
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>>173061814
Even lower tier bait
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>>173046363
[citation needed]
Where are the lies? The surveys (from multiple sources) are incredibly damning. And you're just parading that you didn't even read the articles in question, since they mention that a handful of people there do like him. You're not being clever or groundbreaking by trying to use those few to push your own agenda.
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>>173061838
One cannot simply "learn" to choreograph fights on the level of God Murata
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>>173062060
Murata's art is some of the best of all time. But his panel flow and fight choreography really aren't the best. I'd even say that ONE is better at it than him
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>>173044336
>Hori is a barneyposter
well shit
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>even BC thinks Porkchako a shit
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>>173062034
>i'll just call everything a bait
Pathetic
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Hori has a really clean style and has some of the best composition skill among any of the current artists in WSJ. The only artist I think that can compete with him in composition is Posuka, but Posuka is weaker on conveying motion/action and is waaaay overfond of fisheye effects to convey size/scope.

Posuka's color spreads are fucking fantastic however. Horikoshi literally went to a fine arts college and majored in 2d Printed art and painting and it only seems like fucking yesterday that he figured out that CYMK color space exists and that WSJ is printed on toilet paper so he can't push all his details into his blacks on his non-color pages. Posuka nailed not letting WSJ's shitty printing eat her art.

Horikoshi has good paneling/flow when he's able to work how he wants, and doesn't when it's obvious he's under pressure or is clearly pissing away pages to get to a spread he wants to do. Posuka's is paneling is pretty eh overall, but she makes up for it in really great one/two page shots.

Tataba's singular strength is that he doesn't clutter his panels up with shit. It's extremely easy to read, which is something that people I think kinda underestimate the value of. There's not really any notable spreads or stingers I can remember from the series but I have never looked at a page of Black Clover and been like "what the fuck is going on" in the same way I've been confused by the visual gibberish Oda has cranked out time to time.

You can kinda see Hori's strength in composition vs Tataba in the cover trade. Tataba does draw some nice fat tits though for the BC girls.
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>>173062117
>that ochako
Yikes
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how did Hagakure pass the entrance test goddamn
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>>173062113
Who doesn't think Porkchako is shit at this rate. She hasn't done much and started doing even less the moment she started lusting for Deku's dick.
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>>173062117
>There's not really any notable spreads or stingers I can remember from the series
Read it again. Tabata loves his spreads.
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>>173062193
Is this going to be asked every thread? She hit the off switch on the robots
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>>173062095
I can understand his panel flow not being particularly unique or good but his fight choreography is absolutely top of the ladder and I won't even consider entertaining the idea that it's anything less
I have never read a manga where I can see so clearly exactly what's happening in a fight, where I can see exactly how their hands, feet, legs, everything are moving, how Murata makes a still image feel like it's moving, he's a legend. No mangaka has ever managed to make every single fight hype and full of weight like Murata can. And I REALLY want to stress the part about making still images feel like they're moving, too. For every manga I read I always have these moments of "boy I can't wait for that to be animated' or "that'll be so cool animated," but for Murata's work it already FEELS animated, it feels so full of motion, so alive, that I never have those thoughts. I have never experienced that with any other manga.
I am wanking him a lot but the man deserves it
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>>173062232
I recall the initial spread with the demon skeleton which is a very cool spread to start on. Then I remember the dungeon interior reveal which was also pretty cool.

That's about it really.
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>>173062117
HOW DID HE MESS UP ORCHACO SO BADLY WHEN HE IS ABLE TO DRAW GODDESSES LIKE THIS
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>>173062117
I think Tabata is a good artist, but man do Ochaco and Deku look awkward as fuck in his style.
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>>173062290
Read more of it.
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>>173062117
I don't like Hori's Noelle. She lost her softness.
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>>173044167
Overhoe is easily one of the worst designed characters in this series alongside Todoroki.
Just looks like Hori slapped together as much edgy shit he could on a boring looking character and expected people to eat it up.
As ugly as Oda's designs usually are, Karasu is a better done version of this fucker.
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>>173062285
That's exactly what I particularly hate about murata's work. He draws out everything and turns any battle into this mechanistic movement made by someone with a animator-like habbits. Everything Murata touches looses the natural flow and slight ambiguity of a good illustration.
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>>173062446
This. Overhaul's design is shit on top of his cartoonish over the top character that is more like a caricature of a villain.
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>>173062446
>as much edgy shit he could on a boring looking character
Nigger, are you implying fur collared jackets, dress shirts, and ties are edgy? Are you actually calling Overhaul OVERDESIGNED? If anything he has one of the simplest designs of the series.
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Overhaul is a pretty good design. The rest of his edge-squad were pretty weak though minus Chronostasis in his costume.
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>>173062481
Here's an easy to digest comparison about Murata: he's the Michael Bay of mangaka.
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>>173062481
To each their own I guess
I prefer clarity and flow rather than stillness and ambiguity

But on the subject of the thread, Hori fights can get incomprehensible at times

Gentle was a slight better
OH was the worst offender
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>>173045427
>it wouldn't be strange if people who know nothing about the series or have no idea of the context
Wow who gives a shit?
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>>173062557
I feel like the problem with Overhaul was his quirk. There's just no easy way to convey how he can destroy something on one side of a panel and then reform it on a different side of the panel or a completely different panel without making it jarring
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>>173062557
Hori fights are patterned like Oda's after around 2010 or so. Oda still bothered drawing motion before. Now it's the pose fest.
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>>173041195
He's good, but he's missing something that would put him up there with the GOATs like Inoue, Miura, and Murata
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>>173062113
They are right. Black Clover is miles ahead of BNHA when it comes to the development of the main female character. Hell, some secondary female characters have more development than Ochako
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All of the Yakuza had shit designs.
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>>173062547
Holy shit, dude, your fucking on point here. I'll remeber it. That's exactly how I feel about his art.

>>173062557
I'm in general not a fight fag. I don't need to know every move a character does in a fight if those moves aren't important. I want to see the flow and the impact of a motion and the emotion behind it.
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>>173044995
>humanized version of calarts
That’s oddly specific
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>>173042737
>no goku

Wtf is this
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>>173062634
>waifufags
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More comparison between Hori and Tataba. Like this is one of Tataba's best composed spreads and it's still kinda weak.

Not beating the guy up, just it's easier to see people's strengths and weaknesses when you compare.
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>>173062547
>>173062643
I think you both might be retarded. If Murata has anything it's impact
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>>173062634
That's not fair since most of the other girls in mha are better than ochako, ochako is just shit that ether needs to be replaced or made into the traitor
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>>173061728
>Trump speech
>terrific
>>>/pol/
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So I heard you fags like the busty midget
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>>173062634
>Ochako will become Sakura by decade's end
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>>173062669
those were all the manga in the magazine at the time, thats why you can see so many trash characters from garbage manga together with well known MCs
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>>173062731
That's a still image. We're talking about the impact of an action in the drawing terms. It's a term.
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>>173062630
I do feel like all Hori needs is to panel his fights better

Everything else is fine
But his high action scenes only work in anime
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>>173062748
AWOO
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>>173062774
Traitor or death, those are the only 2 options that can save her
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>>173062718
Up to personal opinion imo. If you like sterile and clean artwork then Hori. If you like grittier and dirtier artwork then Tabata.
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>>173061838
Every artist that has ever lived could learn battle flow and choreography in comics from Murata
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>>173062774
Just what? Because that's going to be true if Hori doesn't do anything about it
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>>173062718
dont read BC wtf is this guy doing
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>>173062901
Opening a spatial portal by "ripping" space
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>>173062808
Hori's action is almost too straightforward and the choreography is too simple. Ochako's takedown of Toga during the lodge attack is basically a by-the-book example of what a takedown of someone with an edged weapon would look like but this is a superhero manga.

Have them FIGHT! There's a reason the Noumu fight at USJ is so much more interesting in the anime. A fucking tumblr animator did a better Toga v Tsuyu fight.

>>173062901
Finral makes portals- he opens, closes and moves them with those hand pinching/opening motions.
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>>173062808
He really got saved by it going to a studio that's willing to put in the effort to make them work. If it had gone to the shit studios that Jump titles usually end up at it would have been terrible.
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>>173062117
I would say posuka relies too much on colors. Her coloring is fantastic, but her linework looks like an awful mess. I definitely would want to see Hori’s clean linework with Posuka’s colorwork
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>>173062969
Posuka's thing is shitloads of ridiculously fine linework that looks normal when you kinda squint at it to give it sort of a 3-dimensional effect.

Sometimes it just looks messy though. She's a bit too into warped perspective as well.
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>>173062901
Snagging tiddy
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>>173062933
I personally enjoy Hori doing simple stuff. After all the other shounens with flashy but pointless stunts it feels pretty fresh.
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>>173062846
Murata is that huge wall many artists hope to reach. Him and Miura are two good examples of why just hard work isn't enough when it comes to art.
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>>173062770
Best girl
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>>173062901
Pretending to be Italian
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>>173062801
If you're talking about that then Murata does that easily. Look at the Elder Centipede fight or Suiryu v Choze
>>173062808
It gets super cluttered or bland at times. He needs to find an in-between. It really shows he can do it with the Nomu fight and some parts of the All Might v AFO fight
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>>173062901
He's opening a portal.
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>>173062634
Miles? Hardly
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>>173063051
>it feels pretty fresh.
One Piece does the same exact style of fights Hori does. What the fuck do you mean by fresh.
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>>173063065
It's not like Murata didn't work hard to get where he is. Look at how he drew in Eye21
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>>173062770
>flat ass
Who is responsible for this? She has one of the fattest asses in canon.
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Posuka's colorwork is really good but as stylized as the linework is I kinda wish it was less messy at times.
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>>173063098
>If you're talking about that then Murata does that easily. Look at the Elder Centipede fight or Suiryu v Choze
I still don't think you understand what we're talking about.
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>>173063188
Also all the fisheye lens effects.
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>>173063152
I mean among hundreds of shounens with the dumb flashy choreography both OP and BnHA seem pretty good to me
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>>173063080
That one cracked me up. Thanks, anon.
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Hori's art is good. He just needs to work on paneling and not making fights only like 6 pages long at most for some characters. Also tone down the flash backs just a little bit. There are other ways to give characters development.
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>>173063207
Then what exactly are you talking about if it doesn't involve the motion or the impact of an action
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>>173063308
Man, listen, you've no idea what you're showing to me. You've started with a still image of ruined building, thinking it's impact, then thrown a picture with three panels that better show Murata's skill with composition and camer angles thinking that's impact. What do you want from me? To go look through Murata's OPM to show you what impact is and then have you misunderstand me ten times and ragequit?
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>>173063277
His flashbacks are pretty sparse, actually. The longest we had was Kirishima’s and that was two half-sized chapters
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>>173063242
Don't delude yourself anon. Dumb flashy choreo > dumb posing.
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>>173063080
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>>173062770
fug
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>>173062291
MOMMMMMYYYYYYYY
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>>173063458
Maybe if you're a kid
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>>173063573
Why are we arguing opinions like they're fact or like you're going to change anyone's mind or like it even matters
Stop
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>>173063625
I'm a simple man: i get an insult, i throw an insult back
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are there any powers that seem shitty at first glance but would actually be completely broken
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how soon until Kirishima adds layers of Hardness to his form? Because Nips love their layering he'd be nigh unkillable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOC12TCjauY&t=56s
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>>173063814
mineta's, if that one shitty OVA is to be believed they're strong enough to restrain AM
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>not even text spoilers yet

Not even nips care anymore
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>>173063814
sadrock. he's in an environment where shitty animals reside. if he had access to real Devilbeasts no one would want to fuck with him.
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>>173063920
Still wouldn't call that broken. It's still hard to get the balls on another person to the point of restraining them, not to mention it's completely worthless against someone who can attack long range
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>>173063814
Aoyama's quirk is deadly, he just always seems to conveniently miss.
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>>173063814
Not a lot of powers are portrayed as shitty.

Uhhh I'm sure you could do something with that shitty Welding power, I just can't think of anything yet
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>>173063167
I didn't say he didn't, hence the "just hard work".
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This thread is almost dead. Where's the real thread
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>>173064264
Why make a new one? It'll be shit just like this one.
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>>173064326
But I wanna talk about Boku no My Hero Mackadamia
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>>173062547
This is so incredibly wrong I'm actually kinda upset.
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where the spoilers, are we getting a saturday chapter?
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I wanna go shopping with Hagakure!
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>>173064788
It bothers me that just because she’s invisible, her head is cropped off and all we focus on is her tits
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>>173055647
Source that shit right now.




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