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Is this the last Nanoha's thing we will get?
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>>178072813
No, we'll get a reboot that starts from a 13-episode TV adaptation from Reflection and Detonation and continues from there. I thought we were clear on that.
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>>178072895
All I know is, that we most likely will never go past Force
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I want more Fuuker
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>>178072813
Probably unless there's more Vivid Strike coming. Who knows.

>>178072895
How on earth will they convince Yukarin to come back? She's currently just finishing her contract for the movies. After Detonation she's free.
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>>178074029
Free to follow other paths, if she wants
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Will this thread still be here by morning?
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>>178072813
Obviously no. After this movie, Nanoha's popularity will EXPLODE past even the highest peaks of the past.
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>>178072813
StrikerS movie but due to Yukarin's situation they cut out Nanoha.
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We want Fuuka (and rinne)
We want Fuuka (and rinne)
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>>178078078
>Yukarin's situation
What is her situation exactly?
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>>178078870
Oh I meant her no longer being a part of King Records and the fact they're a producer for the Nanoha series.
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>>178078870
Dead
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>>178078897
That too. ISLAND fucking sucks.
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>>178078887
So basically, if KR want to make more Nanoha, Yukarin would have to return to voice the character of her own volition rather than contractual obligation?
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>>178078924
I think that's how it works. And I'm sure she'd return to voice her out of the goodness of her heart.
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>>178078987
>out of the goodness of her heart.
I don't know if you're being sarcastic here, but from my perspective, if Detonation is a huge success and makes a shitload of profit, then I believe she will return to voice the character for the money alone.
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>>178079056
Well she'll have to return to voice Nanoha in the inevitable StrikerS movie.
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>>178079088
>inevitable StrikerS movie.
I want to believe we will finally get a StrikerS movie after so long. However I'm still a little afraid that the writers will be too scared to make any non-loli Nanoha content.
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>>178072813
I would like more Adult Nanoha/Vivid to be honest. The Strike/Vivid universe is actually interesting and I wish he build more upon that instead of leaving it to dry. I've never read Force, but with some literallywho male MC it was bound to fail.

There's no reason why we can't have both more Nanoha and Vivid.
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>>178079187
People are still fans of StrikerS, and it's probably the most deserving of a remake as then you can fix a lot of the problems the series has. Also you've already remade 2/3 of the original triology so you may as well finish it off. Also give some of those StrikerS VAs some work, I'm sure a few of them could use it.
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>>178079223
Nevermind, after reading the thread I guess more Vivid is the only option left for now.
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I love Bibio
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>>178079223
I never read Force either, but I have played Gears of Destiny and I actually like Thoma in that game.
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>>178079269
Autistic piece of shit.
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>>178079322
Will Vivio, Einhart, Thoma and Lily actually show up in Detonation? It's unlikely but it would be so hype if it did
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>>178079396
What will Vivio say to Nanoha? "I'm your and Fate's future magical daughter"?
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>>178079223
>I would like more Adult Nanoha
Adult Nanoha is best Nanoha
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>>178072813
Anyone else notice that Nanoha doesn't have the strike canon?
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>>178072813
Until Nanoha gets a boyfriend.
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>>178079223
I honestly do want Vivid season 2. It's not the best Nanoha content ever but I've come to appreciate it a lot more recently than I did a few years ago.
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>>178079833
I would say Vivid should get a season two just for the Vivio and Ein fight but that's honestly what VS is. Though I really do just want to see Vivio in her black jacket.
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>>178080328
It's not fair.
They were perfect together.
It's just not fair.
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>>178080401
It can't be helped
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>>178079655
She already has a husband (female) and a daughter in the main timeline, and she's probably fucking Fate in the movies timeline too.
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>>178080328
>black jacket.
I haven't read Vivid yet but that just convinced me to do so.
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>>178080827
Lesbianism was a mistake. Nanoha needs a real man.
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>>178080946
Fate is a better man than all the guys from Nanoha, and I bet she can summon a bigger dick too.
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>>178080927
Vivid ain't the best but I think the whole Ein vs Vivio is the best part about it. It should've ended after that but they had to keep going for whatever reason.
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>>178072813
I sure hope so, the previous movie was awful.
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>>178079550
This
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>>178080946
Where's Yuuno when you need him?
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>>178082512
Fapping to loli yuri doujins in his library.
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>>178082512
Trapped in a library for the rest of his natural life. It's what he would have wanted
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>>178082512
>Yuno
>Real man
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>>178083023
The less of a man he is, the better his chances were.
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>>178082512
He's busy fucking Vivio
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>>178082512
He's busy being Vivio
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>>178080946
You're a mistake anon

Fate is the real man for Nanoha
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>>178079187
Me too. Those wimps will cower behind lolicon money until the franchise cannot be milked anymore. Main canon Nanoha is dead.
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Vivio is perfection
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>>178079396
The quality of the movie would improve tenfold!
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>>178079550
I salute your tefined taste.
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>>178080328
I would love that because the season then should start with Sieglinde wrecking Einhart to set up the latter breakdown that Vivio will be out to fix.
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>>178084171
It would be interesting to see more of Vivid adapted, but it feels like two steps backwards. I'm ready for Strike S2 with the main 4 MCs being Vivio, Einhart, Fuuka, and Rinne.
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>>178079088
>the inevitable StrikerS movie.
StrikerSshitter tears are so sweet.
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>>178079187
>However I'm still a little afraid that the writers will be too scared to make anymore shit content.
And that's a bad thing because?

Oh right, no more LOL BIG ANIME TIDDIES, which is the only thing StrikerSshitters actually care about as we saw last thread. I bet these same retards would treat StrikerS with the same contempt they treat S1 and A's if everyone had had DFC.
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>>178079223
>literally loli-except-actually-not MMA
>interesting
I would ask you to get higher standards but if you had any desire of it you wouldn't like Shitid to begin with.
>There's no reason why we can't have both more Nanoha and Vivid.
Yes there is, the fact that people want Nanoha to be good again and Vividtrash that nobody wants or likes gets in the way of that. If you want a lighthearted spinoff so badly, Innocent does that job and then some.
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>>178079238
>People are still fans of StrikerS
Keep deluding yourself.
>m-m-m-muh trilogy!!!
The only "trilogy" your garbage titshow is a part of is the "the reason why Nanoha is trapped in a hole" trilogy, alongside Vivid and Force.
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>>178080328
>>178084171
A vivid S2 that starts with the Sieg fight and ends with Yumina visiting Einhart's room would be perfect.
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>>178079396
Of course not, they're trying to make a good movie.

>>178084104
>trash that ruined the series
>"The quality of the movie would improve tenfold!"
Vividshitters everyone.
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>>178079833
>I honestly do want Vivid season 2.
Which is why we're all glad you're not in charge of Nanoha.
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>>178079550
>>178081981
>>178084131
If adult Nanoha is so best, then how come all of the content that has her is so shit?
If adult Nanoha is so best, then how come none of the people that like her have actually watched the series and only want more tits?

Thus, loli Nanoha is the best.
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>>178086060
And I'm ready for the next Nanoha thing to be something good and that people that actually like Nanoha actually want. The great part is that I'm the one that's going to be listened to.
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>>178086442
You know what would be even more perfect? A continuation to Detonation in the form of a TV anime that shows the night when Nanoha got stabbed the dumb Spaghetti bot, but then it never actually happens. It would cement the new reboot status and make literal faggots like you cry for months, it'd be great.
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>>178086598
Lol Nanoha is awesome. Adult Nanoha just takes said awesomeness and takes it to the next level. What's scarier than a young badass Nanoha? An experienced, angry veteran Nanoha of course.
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>>178072813
What's that thing Hayate is holding? It's so goddam ugly.
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>>178088721
>she blasted a floor this is sO COOL HOLY SHIT IT MAKES THE SHITTASTIC WRITING ALL WORTH IT
Loli Nanoha shot inanimate furniture AND had genuinely superb character writing and plotting. Oh but it doesn't shove as many bright lights into the screen as possible so it guess it doesn't count.
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>>178088865
Loli Nanoha is yet to deliver MAXIMUM OWNAGE to a target watching in terror as it knows what's coming it's way and that it totally deserves it. The closest we got was the awesome White Devil scene with Vita in A's TV (clumsily handled by the A's movie btw). But that still doesn't come close to the catharsis felt when Nanoha finally shut up that smug cyborg bitch.

If Loli Nanoha gets to inflict such terror on Kyrie or Iris that'll make Detonation totally worth it.
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>>178089476
>b-but they had a shitty still of some shitty non-character looking scared IT MAKES THE SHITTASTIC WRITING ALL WORTH IT
It's always the same with people that like ShitterS. They only care about the most superficial aspects they can find. "oh it had the blinkiest lights so it was so much better than when the Starlight Breaker was a climactic point in the story and in the involved characters' development, that shit's for NERDS"

>MAXIMUM OWNAGE
>btw
You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.
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>>178089821
>Diminishes StrikerS's achievements to sound smart
>Offers nothing in response
Tell me 5 things the movies have that StrikerS don't aside of superior production values and a higher loli ratio.
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Bibios imouto when?
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>>178090085
>Diminishes StrikerS's achievements
I have not and would never diminish the fact that it's the worst piece of Nanoha media to have ever existed. And that's just about the only thing it "achieved" so I don't know why you're using plural there.
>Tell me 5 things the movies have that StrikerS don't
1) It has fucking Nanoha as a protagonist, for one thing
2) It's not the most retarded departure they could have thought of, instead following up the magical girl action with more magical girl action (I shouldn't even have to list this but here we are)
3) A plot that doesn't rely on a million retcons to be even slightly coherent and isn't padded out all the way to shit and back
4) Characters with actual character instead of archetypes and cardboard cutouts, most of which only existing to pad show length further
5) Better fights which have weight and consequences instead of being an excuse to pad the story even more
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>>178092432
Never because no one wants to see that. People come to Nanoha to see Nanoha, and thankfully the reboot will make sure we get all the Nanoha we want and anyone that doesn't like it (ie you) can get bent.
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>>178092432
In like 5 years after Force, so probably never getting animated.
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>>178092764
It doesn't matter anyway since none of that is canon anymore.
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>>178092870
In the worst case Force would be put in the different timeline than the main continuity since it got canned/cancelled, but that doesn't mean it isn't canon anymore.
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>>178092468
>1) It has fucking Nanoha as a protagonist, for one thing
True, StrikerS MCs are Subaru and Vivio.

>2) It's not the most retarded departure they could have thought of, instead following up the magical girl action with more magical girl action (I shouldn't even have to list this but here we are)
StrikerS had plenty of Magical Girl action, even expanding on the concept of a magical fairy companion with Rein and Agito.

>3) A plot that doesn't rely on a million retcons to be even slightly coherent and isn't padded out all the way to shit and back
The movies are a massive retcon themselves. What are you talking about?

>4) Characters with actual character instead of archetypes and cardboard cutouts, most of which only existing to pad show length further
Kyrie has FORCE level writing and Iris is so cartoonishly evil she wouldn't be out of place in Ben 10.

>5) Better fights which have weight and consequences instead of being an excuse to pad the story even more
Prettier fights for sure (movie budget and all) but hardly better. The fights in the A's movie pale in comparison with the pacing and dramatic weight of their TV counterparts. Reflection fights took a page from FORCE of all places and the battle at the Allston Sea Park was a well animated disaster (seriously the giant Mecha were a big disappointment). I do admit the fights from Movie 1st were really cool and it's a close debate between Nanoha VS Fate Movie VS Nanoha VS Fate TV.

As for StrikerS fights, it's one of the aspects even haters to d hard to complain about, sure there were a couple lackluster ones (Caro/Erio VS. Lutecia was poorly animated compared to Voltaire's first kickass appearance) but most climatic fight near the middle and end of the show are among the most creative and action packed of the franchise.
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>>178093106
>True, StrikerS MCs are Subaru and Vivio.
I can only hope you're not implying this is a good thing. Subaru is generic genki girl MC (she's so shit they had to backpedal so hard that it made the first half of the show even more trash than it already was) and Vivio is the catalyst for literally everything that went wrong with the franchise on top on not having any personality at all and being a highly transparent attempt at masking how shit the plot is by artificially giving Nanoha a very personal stake in it.
>StrikerS had plenty of Magical Girl action
Is this a joke? ShitterS is flat out shonenshit. The fairy shit in ShitterS is just Super Saiyan all over again except the recoloring is supremely awful in almost all cases.
>The movies are a massive retcon themselves.
The only retcons are Hayate recovering and Zwei being created earlier. If you see this and say "wow this is just as bad as retconning Fate's entire backstory for no reason other than to contrive a connection between her, some completely pointless kid and the main villain" then simply don't like Nanoha at all.
>Iris is so cartoonishly evil she wouldn't be out of place in Ben 10.
Says as he unironically pretends fucking Quattro of all people is some masterpiece of character writing. Oh right, it's okay when ShitterS does it, isn't? Because it has all the tits. Fuck off.
>(seriously the giant Mecha were a big disappointment)
Says as he unironically pretends Nanoha shooting the floor of all things is some masterpiece of fighting. Oh right, it's okay when ShitterS does it, isn't? Because it has all the tits. Fuck off.

Didn't you have enough fun proving how much of a secondary you are last thread? Why can't you go watch the first seasons so you stop beign so wrong about literally everything? I know they lack epic anime tiddies, but they make up for it, I assure you.
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>>178093106
>>178093720
Also the rest of that paragraph about the fights is pure bullshit and shows how shallow your admiration for StrikerS (and I bet it's the same for all things Nanoha) actually is. Oh it has all the absolutely EBIN kabooms and flashy lights and that's enough for you but that's how much you care. Nevermind that the scenarios are incredibly contrived to make themselves seem as EBIN as possible instead of letting the scale build up naturally, the battles themselves incredibly shoddy with their poor stop-and-go pacing, and how padded everything is because they needed their 100 characters even though the majority of them do absolutely fuck all and could be removed without any major alterations to the overall plot.

Creative and action packed, what a fucking riot. See, this is why the timeskip and all the adultshit was put in place, so they could use the tits to trick retards like you into not noticing how artificial and poorly made everything is.
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>>178093992
>but that's how much you care
*because that's how much you care
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>>178078924
Is this something to worry about? Does Yukarin hate voicing Nanoha or something?
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Why is it whenever I visit a Nanoha thread there always seems to be at least one anon that tries to antagonise fans of the later series?
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>>178095300
>only one person can disagree with me
Sorry anon, I'll make sure to tone it down so your third Nanoha thread can be a comfy one
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>>178095410
I'm not the OP and you might want to read the post again
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Should I watch tv or movies?
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>>178096046
TV season 1 and A's then jump to Reflection ignoring everything else, unless you hated TV season 1 and A's
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>>178096046
Both. Watching the first 3 seasons is a must. Whether or not you watch the 4th season is optional but you're better off reading the manga of it since it has yet to be fully adapted into anime.
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>>178093720
>Subaru
>Shit
Opinion discarded.
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>>178096046
I'd say both. The retelling movies do explore some aspects the TV anime didn't but at the same time neglect or change details that help the story's consistency.

I suggest to at least watch the core TV trilogy (S1, A's and StrikerS) at bare minimum before jumping on the expanded/alternate universe as those three seasons comprise what the characters personalities and life goals are which will give a better understanding of all the other materials.
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>>178096420
>Watching the first 3 seasons is a must.
Why should watching StrikerS be a must when we don't know how much he hates himself and/or Nanoha?
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>>178096583
So you've finally given up on pretending StrikerS is anything but a pile of vomit. That's nice.

>>178096797
>trilogy
Stop lying to the dude, the only "trilogy" here is S1-A's-Reflection/Detonation.
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>>178096046
In resume you should watch the first three seasons so you can make your own opinion and don't end up a jaded mess like >>178096871
>>178096907
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>>178096984
If what you want to say is "experience it yourself and form your own opinions" then why aren't you telling him to just watch everything?

Stop trying to make StrikerS seem good by grouping it with S1 and A's. It's nothing but an insult to S1 and A's.
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>>178097074
Your negative attitude doesn't do the franchise any favors. In my experience all following installments after StrikerS take or refer to elements shown in the main three TV series. So it's natural I recommend those as a starting point as it simply makes watching everything else a lot easier and more enjoyable. I do not enjoy certain parts of the franchise like Vivid Strike but regardlless of that those connect back to the franchise's roots.

If anything your constant moping could end up scaring potential fans. You're harmful to the franchise you supposedly claim to love.
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>>178097255
You sound like absolute fanbody and scared me out of this series more than that guy.
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>>178097521
Nice falseflagging.
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>>178096046
Whatever you do, don't listen to Bitch-kun who's philosophy is basically
>loli good
>adult bad
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>>178097255
Have you considered that there are parts of the franchise that are not worth experiencing to begin with? Besides, anon was asking "TV or movies", StrikerS doesn't have a movie, your incorrect thoughts on how totally non-shit it is are completely irrelevant.
>You're harmful to the franchise you supposedly claim to love.
Oh I don't want to hear that from the person who actively defends and support the franchise losing more and more of its identity and lowering the bar of quality so highly set by S1 and A's. You're harmful to the franchise you supposedly claim to love.

>>178097521
>You sound like absolute fanbody
He is.
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>>178097540
>only ONE person can DISAGREE with ME!
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>>178097540
You probably meant to say samefagging, because falsflagging makes no sense in this context.
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>>178097521
Holy shit I didn't think I would see worse falseflagging than the shit on /v/ but here it is
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>>178097560
This.
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>>178097630
Samefagging is when you reply to yourself to make it seem like multiple people. This guy is just trying to impersonate newfag anon.
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>>178097565
>People starts ignoring his biased advice
>Starts talking to himself
You can do that in a mirror, anon. You don't need to come here.
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>>178097693
Oh I see now. Still wrong though, I'm the same anon who asked about what to watch tv or movies.
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Well, at least anon now understands that yes, there are fanboys here.
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Why can’t we love all parts of the franchise? Fuck Force though. Also there’s no way they’d retcon the entirety of StrikerS through these 2 movies. It made too much money for such a thing to happen.
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>>178097902
How much did the Nips like StrikerS? I'm not talking about profit wise but more regarding discussion about the series over there.
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>>178097902
>Why can’t we love all parts of the franchise?
Because not all the parts of the franchise are deserving of love? Are you a sheep or something?
>Fuck Force though.
Oh I bet you're one of those people that doesn't notice that Force is exactly as bad as Vivid or StrikerS, just because the protagonists of those have vaginas and that means those series shouldn't be properly analyzed.
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>>178097902
>Why can’t we love all parts of the franchise?
I know right? You know, the FORCE fiasco was a learning experience for me. I've spent a lot of time demonizing the manga and hating on it but ultimately it didn't me any good. Then the franchise derailed even further into it's current state and I comprehended that failures need to be accounted for and that canning FORCE, as bad as it is, was a miskate. Sadly, there's no go back and it's unlikely we'll get something StrikerS related nor anything set after FORCE but that's not reason to hate on past installments nor ignore the good things those did. I'll give a chance to Vivid Strike eventually even though is not my cup of tea.

I ultimately dislike the fact that INNOCENT is another attempt at hide their shame for FORCE but I'd be lying if I say there wasn't parts of it that I enjoyed. Even though I didn't liked the villains in Reflection I enjoyed seeing my favourite characters together again. So yeah, there's absolutely no reason why someone can't simply enjoy this franchise as a whole.
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>>178098111
>just because the protagonists of those have vaginas and that means those series shouldn't be properly analyzed
You don't analyze anything you complain about. Why should we?
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>>178098193
Until the series can finally address FORCE, the Nanoha franchise is just going to be stuck in creative limbo and that's just depressing.
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>>178098257
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not happening. Also nice of you to admit that you like that shit just to be contrarian. And then you say I'm the one being harmful to the franchise or whatever.
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>>178098193
>>178098294
>they should fix the franchise!
>how? by bringing up that bad shit that everyone agrees is bad and continuing it!
Every single time. Good thing you're not in charge of anything.
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>>178098304
You measure quality in terms of boobs and lolis. Your claims lack any objectivity.
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>>178076962
It still alive
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We'll get more Cyclone
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>>178098193
Force had the potential to be good. I honestly believe an anime adaptation with a lot of liberties taken could fix so much.
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>>178098364
If what you got out of me outlining the reasons why StrikerS was terrible in every aspect is "boobs", then maybe I was right in saying the only reason you excuse all the shit it does is because "boobs"
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>>178098294
I know, FORCE botched it but they could still do something with the setting and prepare things for a much better sequel. In fact, things were getting a bit more interesting at the moment they decided to can it:

>The Big Bad finally unveiled
>The Hucks not being invincible anymore
>Section Six reagrouping and finally growing in relevance (specially Teana and Fate)
>Deeper insight on motivations of groups
>Vandein has a mysterious daughter
>Rosalia about to awaken

It really looked like writers were about to try getting their shit together.
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>>178098409
There's already such a thing. It's called Reflection.
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>>178098394
Not exactly the kind of following I was expecting.
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>>178098506
>they could still do something with the setting and prepare things for a much better sequel
You mean what Reflection is doing?
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>>178098513
Not really. Reflections took many of FORCE's mistakes and not enough of it's potential.
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>>178098581
You only say that because it got rid of all the boobs in favor of being about magical girl action like S1 and A's, stop pretending.
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>>178098553
Nope. Reflection is just a clumsy rehash.
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>>178098625
You talk as if boobs were an obstacle for magical girl action. Why is that?
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All I know is Nanoha at this point in time is going the same way that Triangle Heart 3 did. Basely with Force never being finish, like by the end of Triangle Heart 3 they never did finish off Organization Clover.
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>>178098628
And it's much better than the much clumsier non-rehashes.
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>>178098664
Ouch. Well, after Detonation flips what kind of spin off do you think would be cool to start a new franchise? What minor/side character of the Nanohaverse do you think deserves a revamp as an MC?
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>>178098658
I don't know, why are lolis such an obstacle to Nanoha's success that every time someone is glad the franchise is returning to its roots, you have to barge in talking about how the ONLY way to fix the franchise is by getting rid of the lolis and continuing fucking Force?
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>>178098728
*Detonation flops.
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>>178098664
Organization Clover would of most likely started World War III in that world anyways.
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>>178098728
>after Detonation flips
So never?
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>>178098394
Is Cyclone still doing Nanoha doujins? I haven't checked in like 2 years
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>>178098746
Nobody talks about ridding of lolis except you. There are still lolis in FORCE, you know?
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>>178098803
still at it
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>>178098824
>there's a token loli therefore there's no problem lol
Retard.
And you haven't answered the question of why you're so obsessed with Force.
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>>178098728
Detonation will almost certainly make a profit. How much profit will be up to how much the audience actually likes the film.
>What minor/side character of the Nanohaverse do you think deserves a revamp as an MC?
Yuuno or Erio.
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There will probably be a compilation film for strikers , more vivid, online shorts for innocent or a re-working of force.
But I want one where they're in middle school, because we never got that arc.
Its going to be ages before the bluray for detonation comes out probably.
Fate is really really attractive.
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>>178099059
There won't be any of those. After Detonation we're entering reboot territory and going into uncharted territory.
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>>178099059
>But I want one where they're in middle school, because we never got that arc
Execs are too greedy and Tsuzuki too chicken to go back to re-work FORCE or continue the main story. There's hope however, in the fact that Reflection gave a lot of hints setting up The Three Aces career choices pointing out at future adventures meaning that if Detonation is somehow successful it's almost a guarantee the next adventure will be after another soft timeskip and we'll be able to see teenage NanoFate in action.

That being said. It would be nice to have a one shot manga or a single OVA witj one last adventure set after FORCE as sort of epilogue/memorial to the original continuity. Something that give us a sense of closure and optimism for the characters we followed up for so long and that we grew with.
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>>178098912
Not the anon you're responding to, but Force is the black sheep of the series. Ignoring it doesn't make the problem go away. I love Nanoha but if this franchise wants to move forward then I only see 3 options.
>Offically cancel it and announce a replacement series
>Remake it from scratch
>Tsuzuki grows a pair of balls and continues Force from where we left off
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>>178099229
Or better yet, have this OVA be a giant "fuck off" to the absolute retards (you) that pretend to care about the franchise but are the sole ones responsible for it driving off a cliff and needing to be rebooted.
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>>178099271
>I love Nanoha
You do not. There's literally no reason to do anything with Force ever again. Shitty experiment to make Nanoha appeal to shitty people, didn't work just like everything else since A's, just pack it up and hit the reset button.
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The fight between the fan who believe Nanoha was best before StrikerS and the fan who think Nanoha was still good by StrikerS. Also that one guy who talk about Triangle Heart 3 and Organization Clover
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>>178099368
>Let's spend copious amounts of money to make an insulting animation to piss off the fans
Brilliant marketing move.
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>>178099718
Everyone loses.
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>>178099271
>Tsuzuki grows a pair of balls and continues Force from where we left off
The most unlikely but the most meme worthy choice
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>>178099748
Not much worse than "let's rub it in how we're killing off this continuity even if it is for the better"
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So what parts of Reflection did you guys think was good, what did you think was bad and what are your hopes for Detonation?
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>>178098728
Fuuka.
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>>178100125
>So what parts of Reflection did you guys think was good
That it feels like a true sequel to A's, what with it being a magical girl action show (or movie) and starring Nanoha and being structured similarly. They could have easily gone off the deep end once again trying to appeal to normalfags but they didn't. That's good.
>what did you think was bad
Arf was really underutilized for some reason and it's lame how they toned down Dearche. Some things just happen way too fast (like the subplot with Fate not calling Lindy mom) but that probably can't be solved without making this into a 13-episode TV anime. It didn't bother me that much at any rate.
>and what are your hopes for Detonation?
That they don't drop the ball when they're so close to the finish line, I suppose.
It's hard to know what to hope when you barely know what to expect. I mean, the story is pretty much at the end already, I can't wait to see what exactly do they do to make it feature film length.
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>>178100125
The fights were mostly good and it is nice to have Nanoha as the MC again. The bad, well the movie desperately needed to be longer. The Materials are so undercharacterised it's sucks. They needed at least some SOL scenes. My hopes for the next film is that it does characterise the Materials a lot more.
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>>178099810
Sendoffs are well received when the characters are iconic enough. Nanoha and the Riot Force Six crew became all recognizable characters in the lore. Giving them a proper goodbye will be a cool detail. It's been done before with stuff like "Whatever happened to the Man of Tomorrow" to give a farewell to Silver Age Superman's continuity. I think that S1-to-FORCE Nanoha Takamachi deserves at least that. She was the face of the franchise for so much time and now that she's being replaced by her new continuity self it would leave a bad taste to let her last chronological appearance in canon be on Chapter 30 of a cancelled manga.

I'm not saying it's gonna happen. Nips I guess are less attached to lore and characters than us westerners. But it would be really cool to let the Ace of Aces to fly away into the sky with a smile one last time before dissapearing between the clouds forever.
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>>178099718
I am more amaze that there someone who a fan of Nanoha, even those that anon started with Triangle Heart 3.
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>>178100606
And it's a great thing none of that is going to happen. Let the time, money and effort that you want to see used for them wank over what a shit job they made, be properly used to make their second attempt at Nanoha all the more better.
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>>178100214
I think this could work. It's one of the characters with an easier time getting separated from the Nanoha canon into her own thing. It would also help giving her a new origin that exploits better her personality than just magical sports.
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>>178100722
Why that animosity to stomp on the classics?
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>>178100125
I still haven't watched it since finding out the stupid recolors were going to be in it killed all interest in it
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>>178100767
Nobody is stomping on S1 or A's except the people that want Force to continue and poison the well even more.
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>>178100741
Street punk turn into martial arts champion is a good enough origin.
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You need to cure that shit taste of yours.
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>>178100606
>But it would be really cool to let the Ace of Aces to fly away into the sky with a smile one last time before dissapearing between the clouds forever.
Damnit anon you're going to make me cry. I'm perfectly fine Nanoha being rebooted with a movie continuity, but the original mainline Nanoha deserves this much at least.
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>>178079223
Vivid is only interesting because of Corona. Other girls don't need to apply.
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>>178101165
No. Unless it's A's Nanoha doing it.
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>>178100812
I guess but take in consideration S1 and A's Nanoha is the same character that appears in StrikerS and FORCE as much as you want to deny it (you're like the anons crying Dragon Ball Super is non-canon). The Nanoha you're supporting in Detonation is a different one born within the movies her backstory is even different than the one from the TV series.

The Nanoha from the TV series deserves to get a farewell. She was such a cool and endearing character from the beginning. If feels wrong to let her end up her run in a sour note.
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>>178100931
Nanoha was the best part of the movie by far. That and the SoL scenes with Arisa and Suzuka's families. The rest is just meh.
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>>178101243
Take into consideration that it was all your goddamn fault. Oh yeah, let's all support Vivid, what could possibly go wrong? And you have the sheer never to pretend you feel bad for her? After all you enabled to happen to her? After all you want to keep enabling to happen to her with your "but muh force" shit? Where the hell do you get off saying "If feels wrong to let her end up her run in a sour note" when it was by your hand that her run will end in a sour note?

Do you really want things to be different? Go back in time and kill yourself. Or just do it anyway, without you around the chances that neo-Nanoha won't fall into the same traps as before are that much better.
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>>178101552
>sheer never
*sheer nerve

You did manage to piss me off with this one, I'll grant you this much.
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>>178101243
Your her end of being trap in the manga that stop between 1/3-1/2 of the story and not even get a rush ended. Just trap and never going forward
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>>178101301
Fate going full zenryoku zenkai was something I did not know I needed until I got it.
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>>178101552
Never had an idea I had this much influence over the franchise's direction. I better write that letter to Tsuzuki to get the conclusion of FORCE.
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>>178101552
If I had that must control over the series, I know were I would take it.
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>>178101675
The movie is already out in BR isn't? I shall re-watch it to see if I catch something else interesting about it. I was too fearful of the Yagami-ke the first time that maybe I missed some details.
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>>178101765
>The movie is already out in BR isn't?
I only saw English and Chinese subs.
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>>178101788
I'm fine with English. Thanks anon.
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>>178101677
>>178101753
Too bad. It's reboot time now.
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>>178101552
If I had the power to enable more adult Nanoha content then we would've gotten StrikerS movies years ago.
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>>178100931
evil nanoha and violent fate are a crystalization of the cancer killing the series. we're stuck with recolors from a throwaway psp game because pedos who reject anything without loli-nanoha would rather rehash a's forever instead of have original content.
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>>178098409
To be honest, I would loved if they just had stuck with FORCE initial premise about a criminal with a deadly weapon on the run from the TSAB, that sounds like something with a lot of potential and room for drama. FORCE ended that arc and went back to the same boring training way too soon.
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>>178101951
Good characters carrying some gravitas and good action scenes are the cancer killing the series? But none of those things have been seen since A's.
>m-muh pedos
It's because of people like you that Nanoha is in the shitter. I hope you're proud.
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>>178102034
I could careless about Nanoha being a loli or an adult. I just want a good story. I hated Vivid because it could of had a great story but they kind of threw that a under a bus. Force's story was bad but if the author change a few thing, it could of been a good story.
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>>178102309
>I could careless
>not "I couldn't care less"
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>178102309
Reflection was a bummer story wise but it's only the half. The only thing left is crossing fingers so Detonation brings something really interesting to the table.
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>>178101677
You just gave me an image in my head of Signum writing a letter and complaining about her jobbing in FORCE
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>>178102309
>I could careless about Nanoha being a loli or an adult.
Could have fooled me, what with you calling out pedos and such.
>I just want a good story.
Could have fooled me, what with you criticizing the best story this franchise coughed up since time immemorial and such.
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>>178074029
The thing is that she's basically stuck as Nanoha's VA till she has health issues or dies. That is how the VA industry works.
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>>178102599
My sides.

I actually was looking for the way to do that when FORCE Ch. 07 happened. I was that butthurt back then.
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>>178102644
I'm not the same anon
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>>178102599
>>178102687
She could be writing a letter telling them to stop embarrassing themselves and make a proper sequel to A's already. Oh but I guess that's not as important as m-muh waifu is jobbing boohoo.
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>>178079269
source?

don't tell me this is from the sad panda site.
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>>178098071
I'm pretty sure it's a Broken Base, but I think majority liked it. The flaws I believe could be fixed with a compliation movie or two. As this would allow you to cut a lot of characters out that weren't really relevant. Plus an upgrade to animation and seeing Nanoha BTFOing Teana in glrious movie quality is something I've been wishing for a very long time.
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>>178103091
Nice sources.
Nobody liked StrikerSshit, that's why they had to drop their ambitions of making Subaru the epic new MC partway through the show.

Also you can stop wishing for a movie, it's never going to happen and that's a good thing.
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>>178103178
Do you just sit in waiting for someone to talk about StrikerS to interject and ruin the conversation?
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New trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzbkv42z66s&feature=youtu.be
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>>178103255
Holy moly.

This is it, guys. Nanoha is definitely back.
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>>178103255
Holy shit this actually looks good.
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>>178103255
If nothing else then Detonation will be a great action film.
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>>178103091
>Plus an upgrade to animation and seeing Nanoha BTFOing Teana in glrious movie quality is something I've been wishing for a very long time
There's a lot of epic scenes from StrikerS that could benefit immesely from getting the movie treatment. Subaru plowing the Numbers in the sewers comes to mind. Also the awesomeness of Voltaire's first summon.
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>>178104046
>epic scenes
>StrikerS
Pick one.
If you want an "epic scene" just watch Nanoha losing her shit in the new Detonation trailer.
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>>178104046
The entire final battle, both inside and outside of Cradle deserves the movie treatment. Vivio vs Nanoha in particular could look so much better and more brutal.
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>>178104046
With the movies' shitty pacing I could totally see them skipping both the mock battle and Voltaire's summon.
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>>178104227
If it deserves it so much, then why did it not get it? Meanwhile S1 and A's which actually did deserve the movie treatment, got it. Even the PSP games got the movie treatment, so that should speak to how much StrikerS deserves the movie treatment, let alone deserve anything.
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>>178104233
They did you one better by skipping the whole thing. Isn't it great?
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were the cyborgs all okay with having their babies aborted or did the tsab force it on them? did they get memory wiped or something? none of them are even mad.
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>>178104369
It is not like they had a say in the matter.
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I want to FEED Fuuka.
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>>178104355
Kinda.
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>>178104369
Judging by how Nove is in Vivid I don't think they gave a shit
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>>178104449
Oh, don't be shy. They didn't touch that bucket of stale semen that is StrikerS, and the people that want quality entertainment out of Nanoha got their wish.

Everyone wins!
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>>178104436
Feed her my semen
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>>178104464
She did end up working with kids and adopting Fuuka so maybe deep down she cared.
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>>178104598
Maybe. Maybe the StrikerS movie should explore it in the inevitable movie.
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>>178104688
>the new Detonation trailer broke his mind so hard he can't even write coherent sentences anymore
The true Nanoha is back and she will never leave us again. You're free to go and never come back though!
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>>178104148
I will. As soon as I get Wi-Fi. Pissed off Nanoha is best Nanoha.
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>>178104688
>>178104729
Nice samefag Bitch-kun. This is honestly becoming sad.
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>>178104233
>Voltaire's summon
I sure loved when this franchise was daring enough to have something as crazy as a freaking Kaiju to appear on the heroes's side nontheless.
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>>178104729
>she will never leave us again
We thought the same. Then "hiatus" happened. It's just a matter of time.
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>>178104810
I much prefer it when the franchise stops trying to be something it's not and stops doing stupid shit just to pretend it's being """hype"""
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>>178104938
They clearly got that sorted out.
Now it'll be nothing but my dear Nanoha. I couldn't be happier.
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>>178104729
Fuck off Bitch-kun, after all these years I still have never understood your irrational hatred for anything post A's. Is it cause they're not lolis anymore? Because after this I dobut you're gonna get Nanoha anymore, and you can blame KR for that.

>>178104801
That's my fault, I tried being a snarky asshole but it backfired.
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>>178104598
>>178104688
tfw no robot mommy gf :(
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>>178105004
Believe it or not I do hope it does well. Reaharshing the Eclipse plot is not an reassuring start but Detonation looks like it can do better.
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>>178105189
Who'd make a better robot mommy gf: Subaru or Nove?
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>>178105007
>after all these years
I know I'll be exposing myself as a Nanoha newfag but, this guy has been at it for years?
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>>178105218
Best mommy: Nove.
Best gf: Subaru.
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>>178105218
>>178105311
Strange way to spell Amitie. Since she's the one that's canon now.
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>>178105297
Yeah, if you say you like anything post A's or attempt to discuss anything post A's with another Anon, you'll get a guaranteed reply. I remember him being around when Vivid Strike aired.

>>178105311
But Subaru has Teana

>>178105343
Fuck off
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Yeah boi!
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>>178105297
Sadly yes. His old schtick was shitting endlessly in ViVid because of the introduction of the Adult Mode.

I like to think he isn't as bad as that other anon famous for losing his shit defending NanoFate being married bringing up Japan's laws for adoption and who knows what other stuff.
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>>178105218
Ginga would be a good mommy
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>>178103255
Looks good, hopefully it will get shown in NA theaters like reflection
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>>178105472
Ginga is a washed up cyborg!
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>>178105404
>Fuck off
Okay fine, Kyrie then, geez.
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>>178105297
Yes, Bitch-fag is one of the /v/tards who picked up Nanoha because of the shitstorm caused by the Rinne bullying scene two years ago. Now he spams threads because he's butthurt over how he missed all the threads about the seasons that he actually liked. The easiest way to spot his spam is that he always irrationally hates anything non-loli.
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>>178105531
No, you only get to choose from Subaru or Nove. No others.
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>>178105218
Nove has a harem made of JS and JCs she takes care of on a regular basis.
Subaru got rid of both Ixy and Vivio.
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>>178105571
Why would I choose between soon-to-be-noncanon nobodies?
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>>178105595
Then fuck off then
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>>178105311
t. Teana
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>>178105581
>Subaru got rid of both Ixy and Vivio
Knowing how toxic this fandom can be at times it's a surprise Subaru didn't got fame as a deadbeat mother.
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>>178105612
>he would pass this up in favor of some non-canon dishwasher
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>>178105570
>shitstorm caused by the Rinne bullying scene
That scene basically did so much free advertising for the show
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>>178105709
>toxic
Fuck off.
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>>178105709
Thats Fate's job.
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>>178105760
It's actually Precia's job
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>>178105796
Precia only neglected one kid. Fate is neglecting three.
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>m-muh toxic fandom
Pathetic.

But the new and improved Nanoha and her crew are going to fix everything. They're going to purge all the undesiderables. Just a little over a month left.
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>>178105943
is this the same people who kind of fucked up the past 2 nanoha series
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>>178105943
You picked a pretty shit image
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Someone explain to me why FORCE is awful without mentioning no lolis or male protag.
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>>178105993
Godawful character, shit plot and trying to shift Nanoha into something she's clearly not solely to appeal to a demographic that has no business with Nanoha at all.

Same as StrikerS and Vivid, really. But those have the advantage of vagina protagonists so stupid people never noticed.
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>>178105986
I like it. Angry Iris is cute! CUTE!
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>>178105993
I haven't read Force myself but from what I've heard over the years some of it seems to amount to
>jobbing
>Final Fantasy looking antagonists
>attempts to humanise said antagonists
>Fate moving faster than a teleporter
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>>178105989
What's so ero about it?
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>>178105468
To begin with that Anon must be really desperate or delusional to attack NanoFate of all things in this series. The good thing is that he's not here as often as you-know-who.
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>>178105943
nanoha has the holy trinity of shit fanbases
>/u/fags
>pedos
>va/idolshitters
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>>178106157
They're going to fuck afterwards
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>>178106341
Why not fuck right now?
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>>178106384
Because they're going to fuck someone up
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>>178106435
I bet they could do both at once.
Imagine a Starlight Breaker powered by loli Nanoha's orgasm.
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>>178106340
There's nothing wrong with liking lolis. This series was founded on lolis, for crying out loud.
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>>178105755
I'm not saying all the fandom is like that but one portion tends to get offended/defensive for the littlest of things while the other loves to derail characters with their fanfic ideas like what they do with Hayate. She's a bit Goofy and likes to play with her friends but is overall a nice motherly girl yet the fans overlook said nobility and portray her as an opressive sex maniac.
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>>178105856
I'm still mad that Erio and Caro don't seem to count as part of the family.
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>>178105943
You think your Newnoha is safe? They'll twist and derail everyone from the movieverse the same way or worse. It's even easier now, I can already see the incest fanon about the Florian sisters not to mention Isis and her blood eating powers.
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Hopefully Vivio can be in the movie as well.
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>>178106636
You definitely sound like the portion that "tends to get offended/defensive for the littlest of things"
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>>178106746
>Vivio and Einhart randomly fall in from the sky just like the game
That would be amazing.
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>non-canon shitheads will never be in the movie
This is already amazing.
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>>178106340
Loli and yuri are 2 of the most liked things on /a/, now you're just being edgy in a childish attempt to fit in.
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>>178106340
>/u/fags moved to Madoka
>lolifags moved to Prisma
Where did the idolshitters move to?
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>>178106938
Symphogear?
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>>178105491
Where the fuck was Reflection showing in America? I never saw it listed anywhere, even at theaters that usually have anime movies.
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>>178106995
They had a website you could check, though I'm in Canada so I had to wait an extra month.
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>>178106974
Speaking of Symphogear, crossover when?
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>>178106995
Some mall theater close to me was showing it. Didn't bother going though.
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>>178106099
>Fate moving faster than a teleporter
Wait. There's seriously people sad about their lives enough to be pissed by this? I thought it was a general agreemed that this was a legitimately cool moment.

By the way. Does someone have the gag 4koma of Fate saving Nanoha from DeVille then getting distracted by making googly eyes at each other? I lost it somewhere and I can't find it on Google. I think the name of the gag manga was FORCE Dimension.
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>>178106556
It was founded on the combination of Mahou Should tropes and Shonen Mecha. The main characters just happened to be lolis.
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>>178106791
That sounds about right I guess. But I feel justified in that it is an incorrect portrayal of the character.
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>>178107215
It was founded on the combination of loli magical girls and action tropes. They just happened to be picked from the mecha genre.

This is how stupid you sound.
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>>178106885
What do you mean non-canon? They appeared on the same game as the Materials and Florian Sisters. They're just as canon as they are.
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>>178107190
I have it in my PC, I can post it tomorrow if nobody does it by then.
I think I got it from one of the old NanoFate doujins' extras, I didn't even read Force past the first volume.
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>>178106995
I watched it here in Tacoland. I hope Detonation also comes here.
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>>178107308
>They appeared on the same game as the Materials and Florian Sisters.
And this isn't that, otherwise we'd be seeing a lot more discoloured counterparts to the characters.
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>>178107333
Please say it was dubbed.
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>>178107248
Funny, it's the most coherent sounding post you've made on during this entire thread.
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>>178098394

>STILL no Curren doujin

fuck 'em
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>>178107376
Nope. Just subs, I also dreamed how a latin American dub of Nanoha would be. In an ideal world it would be something with CCS levels of care and quality.
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>>178107054
The TSAB were the Custodians all along.
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>>178107054
Nana will end up aphonic from all the voice work.
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>>178107379
That's nice, though I'm not really interested in what some illiterate thinks.
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>>178107342
Honestly the Dark Piece hunt was much more exciting and character driven than the fight against the giant mecha at the sea.
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>>178107466
It wouldn't be the first time she voices several characters at the same time.
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>>178107424
>something with CCS levels of care and quality
Oh boy I can already hear Nanoha's name be mispronounced to the point it's painful to hear.
>hey naNOha!
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>>178107494
There sure was a lot of not-caring during this thread, huh?
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>>178107504
You're objectively wrong.
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>>178107531
Oh boy. It can be either really annoying or rather cute depending on who does the voice acting.

I can already imagine Uraz Huerta as a pitch perfect voice for young Chrono.
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>>178107567
The snoring I heard at the cinema during the mecha battle says that i'm right.
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>>178106995
Watched it in theaters. Totally worth it.
Also ran into someone from a forum I used to frequent 8 years ago. It was a fun time.
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>>178107550
Oh so you are the same person as before and you want to add "illiterate" to the list of your achievements, alongside "not having watched the first two seasons despite talking smack about them damn near all the time"?
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>>178107611
>normalfags have shit taste
Stop the fucking presses.
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>>178107039

>live in Canada but in a smaller town

Would have felt weird but I might have gone, oh well
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>>178107054
Who would win in a battle of fisting, Subaru or Hibiki?
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>>178107635
Going to the theater is worth it just for the chance at those experiences. In my case I went with a friend who used to be fan of the series but stopped after StrikerS (he didn't hated FORCE or anything he just moved onto other genres and left Mahou Shoujo altogether) we got lots of fun complaining about the movie together.
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>>178107704
Hibiki, obviously.
Subaru isn't even canon.
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>>178107704
Hibiki. Easily.
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>>178107638
For someone who isn't interested in my opinion you're awfully pending on my posts.

When you don't give a damn about something the right action is to not take action at all. You already stablished your irrational dislike of anything not 100% Loli focused and made your point. You can let it rest now.
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>>178107704
I like Subaru more as a character but Hibiki suplexed a freaking Spaceship there's simply no comparison. Bikki got this one.
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>>178107704
Hibiki would win, but what about against Nanoha? Befriending by fisting vs befriending by lasers would be hype.
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>>178107779
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't know I was supposed to forget a conversation I had a couple hours ago in this same thread. Not everyone here is a goldfish like you, mate.

And right back at you, still thinking that all arguments I gave for why StrikerS is bad are all anti-hag hogwash, when A's and Reflection have a non-insignificant amount of hags that I'm perfectly fine with. You really are illiterate, you know. You can let it rest now.
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>>178107823
I do think Hibiki is stronger but I don't think she can defeat Nanoha in combat. Nanoha is too skilled a fighter and dealing with strong opponents is what she does best.
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>>178107823
I would need to go back to Symphogear to check on Hibiki's defensive feats. If X-Drive is allowed Nanoha is done for. The cap level in Symphogear is simply to ridiculous even for Nanoha standards.

Maybe the movie Florian Sisters will have a chance with their unfair Formula Eltria haxx.
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>>178107692
I'm in Alberta and the theater I went to only had like 6 people.
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why did they change the character designer?
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>>178107876
>is bad are all anti-hag hogwash
That's all on you pal. I don't mind the cast being lolis, my only interest is to not let all these years of lore and progress go to waste.
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>>178107920
Hibiki can't use X-Drive alone so I don't think it is fair in a 1v1.
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>>178107937
I thought it would be the same here but surprisingly there were at least around 25 people. I thought Nanoha was an obscure thing since I never saw any Nanoha merch on local anime cons.
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>>178107971
So it's fine for Nanoha to be an awful series just so it can have a lot of "lore".
How dandy, are you sure you like Nanoha? Because if what you want is a lot of bullshit to be a literal nerd over, there are other series out there that have more lore than you can shake your little nerd inhalator at.
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I hope I never run into any of you idiots at a theater.
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>>178108095
Why? We can be friends.
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>>178108088
>How dandy, are you sure you like Nanoha?
Yes, so much that I can accept the good and bad and see the worthy and mediocre parts in both and accept it all the same.
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>>178108095
Chances are I won't even turn my head at you so it won't matter.
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>>178107995
Yeah that's fair. I think this would come down to if Hibiki can punch through Nanoha's barriers. Has anyone calculated her best strength feat?
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>>178108159
>Yes, so much that I'm wiling to be a fanboy sheep and defending from poopoohead meanies that think it can do anything wrong.
Thank fuck for the incoming reboot.
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>>178108200
Not calculated but punching the head of an immortal Dragon deity so hard it became mortal has to count.
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>>178108235
>defending
*defend it
i should proofread more huh
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>>178108247
I don't remember this?
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I miss them.
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I miss her.
Oh wait she's getting a movie and all the post-reboot stuff is going to focus on her, nevermind lol
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Interesting that a versus debate of all things is one of the more civilised parts of the thread.

Btw what the fuck is Symphogear?
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>>178108488
It seems I misplaced my webm of the main character deflecting tank shells with her fists. So have this, it'll help you understand.
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>>178108022
It is obscure. At least to normies. Went to fate stay night and it was packed with a line leading out of the theater. The nanoha movie had almost every other seat taken but it wasn't crowded. On the plus side there was no one making stupid comments during the movie.
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>>178108832
>normies
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>>178108299
Earlier episodes of Symphogear XD. The trans alchemy trio summoned an Aztec dragon creature that regenerated from damage.
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>>178108692
>deflecting tank shells with her fists
N-Nani?
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>>178108488
If you like Nanoha - any part of it - go and watch Symphogear. It honestly is the closest thing to it that exists.
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>>178104369
The babies were literally just backup Scagliettis, they only existed to continue his work if he died. I don't think the clones would mind in that case, even the ones who stayed loyal.
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>>178107531
A dub of Nanoha actually exists, lots of non-professional voice actors in first time roles if recall.

I don't hate strikers out of MuhHags like a lot probably do and I can admit to liking it even though part of the appeal was that in the first two series and reflection was that I preferred it when they y'know had tiny asses and flat chests.
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>>178109170
Holy shit. So this is what would happen if Nanoha and Subaru had a kid.
>>178109199
I think I definitely will watch it. Looks like fun.
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>>178109446
And this is what happens when Fate becomes a SAKIMORI.
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>>178109446
>if Nanoha and Subaru had a kid
Really puts into perspective how much of a disappointment Vivio is.
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>>178108387
And most likely they will never show up again because that would be going past the black hole knows as Force
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>>178109556
>>178109567
Are there more character comparisons between the two shows?
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>>178109679
There's a mad scientist in the second through fourth seasons who does some crazy faces like Scaglietti.
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>>178109789
DID SOMEBODY MENTION ME, VER-HAKASE-SAMA, THE LAST ACTION HERO?
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>>178109789
Dr. Ver is Dr. Spaghetti done right
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>>178109839
Sugita really hammed that role up.
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>>178109876
And it was great
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>>178098394
I wish Kamogawa Tanuki would come back instead.
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>>178109679
Symphogear really is like a sister series to Nanoha. We even have a pink haired whipsword woman as well.
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>>178094449
No, it's just retards trying to spread misinformation.
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>>178094449
VAs like money, as despite memes about them being the most expensive part of anime production, they don't actually make a lot of money per role and need to constantly and continually be doing stuff to make a living. Nana's one of the few exceptions as she's managed to become a popular mainstream singer, but she still Wills It to continue doing Symphogear season after season.
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>>178110741
I unironically hope Nana sings at the Opening Ceremony at the Olympics
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>>178110152
Kek. Maria would probably get really flustered over this
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>>178107960
They take some getting used to but I really enjoy the new looks for everyone in their own way. The original designs are golden too and already had more modern takes with the Movie 1st/2nd obviously but I don't think these new ones hurt and work really well with the weapon aesthetic Reflection/Detonation are using. They also gel better with the Vivid mangaka's style of art which is obviously much more important now. Signum doesn't look very good though and I'm not the largest fan of the Vita mahou outfit redesign either.

I think the retakes on all of the Gears of Destiny designs are the best of the lot though. The Materials look significantly better and more standout (though I'm aware the original designer had their hands tied on that) and Yuri's design fits her status as a sealed monstrosity a lot more than the one from Gears. The Florian sisters looked solid to start with but I think I like the movie take better there as well.
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>>178105709
>toxic
Go back to r/anime.
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>>178101677
>>178102599
More like complaining about how FORCE, her only actual shot to be even remotely relevant, was canceled.
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>>178109937
Maria also jobs sometimes as well
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>>178112234
It hurts because it's true.
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>>178112368
>sometimes
She's always jobbing, Maria sucks and isn't good for anything. Kinda like Signum.
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>>178112368
>Maria also jobs sometimes as well
>sometimes
I'm tempted to say her job record is more impressive than Signum's. I like Maria but she always have struggled to get stuff done.
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>>178112388
The difference is that Signum got newtered into a Jobber after two impressive seasons of being an unstoppable badass. Maria started getting shat on from the beginning (although her cape was cool as fuck, I want the cape back dammit! Fuck that corny philosophy about hiding behind a shell).
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>>178112385
Being Signumfag is suffering
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why do morons that only read part of force go on and on about signum jobbing since she lost once when the moment she's back in action and has the weaponry that actually allows her to operate properly against such an opponent she wrecks the motherfucker she lost to's shit
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Reflection felt like all the characters had lobotomies beforehand when it came time to fight. The fight scenes were certainly flashy, but not nearly as well thought out as 2nd's. Hopefully detonation is a bit better in that regard.
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>>178112499
It really is but a true fan doesn't choose what character its heart beats for.
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>>178072813
what the fuck happened to the planned teen nanoha movie that was supposed to debut 5 years ago?

Will we never get to the strikers movie?
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>>178112522
Never read Force, can you provide proof?
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>>178112522
At the time I found it a little underwhelming for a couple of reasons:

>a) The Gladiator unit is kinda odd looking in contrast with cool and elegant Laevatein
>b) Cypha went away in her own terms with the only significant injury being pretty much the same she got in their first fight that she subsequently regenerated

True. Signum pushed her shit hard and Cypha was in a truly inconvenient situation and was forced to flee but the fact is that the fight wasn't conclusive.

Still after looking at it more calmly it was obvious that their fight at the bridge was a mere setup for their real rematch. Too much stuff was going on between them during that fight.
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>>178112607
nigger flees making it obvious who has the upper hand

as >>178112634 notes it was almost certainly going to lead to a more conclusive result had force been able to continue but at that point signum was already proven the eventual victor
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This has got to be the most positive discussion about Force that I've ever seen. Maybe I really should read the manga, if nothing else than to form my own opinion on it.
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>>178109446
invest in good headphones and remember to drink water.
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Who decided that Nanoha and Fate should go from just friends to straight up married lesbians?
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>>178113024
Delusional "fans".
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>>178112942
I'm gonna be that contrarian and say that Force isn't that awful. It's the series with the most problems without a doubt, but it does have some good moments too. It sucks that Force stopped just when things were starting to look up.
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>>178112634
>>178112684
Pretty much. Even their first fight made it clear that they were more or less equals in base, and the fact that Cypha felt the need to React at all just reinforces that.
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>>178113055
Correct thinking "fans"
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>>178113097
You are not alone anon. Admittedly I hated Force when it was still releasing. However after taking a more mature look at the manga recently I can honestly say it's decent. The jobbing is still annoying as fuck but I understand these days that intense jobbing typically leads to very cathartic smack downs later on. A shame we are unlikely to ever see them.
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>>178112577
>planned teen nanoha movie
I've never heard of this before. What?
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>>178073943
If Yukarin doesn't want to come back to voice Nanoha for whatever reason, then more Fuuker is almost guaranteed.
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>>178114513
Probably speculation, nothing like that was officially announced.

>>178113024
It was the only way to keep things moving forward, Tsuzuki already have them a daughter in StrikerS.
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>>178114908
But we can't have Vivid Strike now because Einhart is probably gonna go on hiatus
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>>178115277
Ein isn't necessary at all.
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>>178115364
But my mentors
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>>178115386
In Vivid Strike yes, but not anymore. Plus Fuuka is a freak and probably learned everything she could from Ein already.
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>>178115277
How does a character go on hiatus?
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>Maria is Symphogear's Signum!
You know I don't remember Signum equating child abuse to growing tomatoes
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>>178115824
Miura is a badly grown tomato.
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>>178111502
>and Yuri's design fits her status as a sealed monstrosity a lot more than the one from Gears.
No?
Her old design was a lot better in conveying that, simply by making her seem very un-Nanoha-like, what with the evil giant hands and red energy wings and stuff. It really gave her this sense that she's something that shouldn't be there. This redesign just makes Yuri look like the other characters.

I don't dislike her new look mind you, I just don't think it makes her look like a sealed monstrosity more than her GoD design.
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>>178072813
Nope, a new third season will air, and it will decanonize Strikers.
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>>178115824
Unlike Signum, Maria was never a top-tier fighter.
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>>178112942
If someone describes a pile of shit correctly, it's still a pile of shit. It doesn't suddenly turn into a pile of caviar.
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>>178115824
Fate would probably agree to it though
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>>178109567
Don't you dare shitting on my loli-Jesus.
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>>178116371
Of course.

The tears will be infinite and I'm going to enjoy them every single time.
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>>178116578
Vivio is perfection
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>>178116578
I want to fuck loli-Jesus
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>>178116674
Stay away
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>>178116652
>the final chapter of Vivid has Vivio and Einheart sleeping together
It was obvious that was going to happen at some point, but still.
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>>178106099
>>PRINCE Fate moving at the speed of RABURABU to save her waifu Nanoha

How could you not like this?

>attempts to humanise said antagonists
The series always did that, honestly.
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>>178116857
I don't remember that at all. I'm pretty sure it ends with them sparring and Ein hanging out with the succubus to write down her memories before she forgets them all.
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>>178116868
In all honesty, they should just give us a NonaFate kiss in the anime already.

Everyone thinks they're married anyway.
What harm would it be to have them kiss.
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>tfw you will never be so in denial about the bad shit getting non-canonized that you keep talking about it as if nothing was happening
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>>178116978
Wrong picture, but it's okay. Still canon.
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>>178106099
Are FF-ripoff protagonists really worse than fucking palette swaps?
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>>178116881
>Ein hanging out with the succubus to write down her memories before she forgets them all
You've confused your shitposting with reality.
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>>178116868
>The series always did that, honestly

Most of the arguments against it are "BUT THEY'RE SO EVUL AND EDGY!" when they've barely done anything really evil on-screen that hasn't been done by your typical shounen antagonists. The worst thing any of them have ever done is having a murderhobo saying she slaughtered an entire village and not giving a fuck about it to get Signum's fight boner on.
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>>178117109
>the succubus

Hey, that's not a bad thing to call Hayate!
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>>178117073
These "fucking palette swaps" are better than your favorite character and all you can do is keep crying about it.
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>>178107324
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>>178116868
>>178117157
Explain to someone who hasn't read the manga, what did you guys think was good about Force? For years I've been under the impression that Force was unanimously hated.
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>>178117610
Is this from an official manga?
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>>178117653
>For years I've been under the impression that Force was unanimously hated.
It was, but people have eased up on it as they began to realize StrikerS and Vivid are the same shit and they liked those.
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>>178117692
Yeah, it's from Force Dimension, the 4 Koma that came with Force.
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>>178117754
Thought so. Thanks.
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>>178117754
>Every night
She wishes, Fate isn't in Riot Force 6 anymore, now she's stationed in a space ship or saving far away planets half of the year.
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>>178117874
Fate's so fast she can literally teleport with teleporting.
I don't think it's much of an issue where she's stationed.
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>>178117653
Story actually starts somewhat interesting and started to become good right before it's hiatus. Fate's super speed moment is awesome, I don't give a fuck what anyone else says. I also genuinely like Thoma. He can be infuriating like any shonen protagonist but he eventually grew on me. I could list more but it's been literally years since reading Force, and rereading it just makes me feel depressed.
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>>178117906
That makes sense in context, but before Vivid when Tsuzuki was asked he said Fate called Vivio "as often as a father working away" when she was away from home, so at least at that time he was thinking that she just couldn't travel/teleport back every day.
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>Vivio-san, because of you my whole world is breath taking.
Dang, Einheart is pretty smooth.
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>>178117653
It's brave of you to assume that I didn't tolerate that hot mess that was Force because Fate was in it.
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>he said Fate called Vivio "as often as a father working away" when she was away from home
Some doting fathers call their kids when they go away for even a simple day trip.

Doesn't really seem that conclusive that she was never around much.
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>>178117754
This is so immature humour that it loops back around to being funny
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>>178117981
FORCE is just depressing whether or not you like or dislike it. If you don't like it, then the fact that the series seems hell bent on ignoring the problem does not bring confidence for the future of Nanoha. If you do like it then the fact that it's unlikely to get a conclusion to the story is just sad.
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Cutest anime family.
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>>178118330
Continue being butthurt over your beloved Force getting thrown away for good. Nanoha's future is looking brighter than ever before.
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>>178117181
Why is Hayate so lewd?
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>>178118702
Lolis with brown hair are inherently lewd.
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I just started watching Nanoha Vivid, and can anyone explain to me why the drastic artstyle change? Some of the characters literally look younger than they did in StrikerS
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>>178119071
Different studio.
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>>178119071
>I just started watching Nanoha Vivid
I'm sorry.
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>>178119209
Fuck you Vivid is fine
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>>178117610
Thanks anon! Also good morning N/a/noha.

>>178117653
Bias mostly. The manga does have some heavy flaws but is not as bad as some people (myself included) tried to make it out to be. Signum never had a major clear defeat up to that point and her last fight previous to her appearance in FORCE was an amazing battle against Nanoha without holding back that ended in a technical draw (with Signum arguably still in shape to keep going unlike Nanoha). So yeah, watching her jobbing hard to an unknown character stung pretty bad with me and other Signum fanboys at the time.

Ignoring the jobbing I could say one of the real flaws of the manga was it's pacing. A lot of the time very little happened in a single chapter and the schedules were constantly changing making small arcs seem eternal (I think we've spent almost a year and a half on the assault to the Huckebein spaceship to secure Tohma and the subsequent battle against him over the ocean). The other flaw is the writer immediately connecting the New MC with the old cast. He started the manga as a traveler seemingly unrelated to Nanoha and her adventures and that was interesting because during the first part of the manga he gained his own circle of companions that traveled with him and was discovering mysteries from a different angle than that of the villains or the TSAB which could've been made into an interesting and different POV. But nope, turns out he has a backstory with Subaru and also spent like a year living in the Nakajima household so by the time they encounter MC everyone knows about him and welcome him without a second thought (everyone except Vita who since StrikerS became one of my fav characters for the fact she chooses to always keep a healthy dose of common sense). There are other flaws but from what I can remember those two are among the first that I noticed the most.
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>>178119277
Okay, you're entitled to your opinion. Just like the creators of Nanoha are entitled to destroy everything that even resembles Vivid in the reboot and replace it with stuff that's actually fine!
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>>178118330
The hiatus is the best thing that could have happened to it. Force was utter shit. Characters, plot, setting, art, pacing, it all sucked. The kindest thing you can say about force is that it had the potential to improve over time and fix its many mistakes.
Because it will never continue all that lies ahead for it is endless potential. Now you can read it and enjoy speculating about all the ways it could have been better without being reminded every month about how shit it actually is.
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>>178119313
>Also good morning
You think this is a chatroom or something?
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>>178119186
>A-1 Pictures is credited in the OP
Well I'm dumb for not noticing.
>>178119209
What's wrong with Vivid?
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>>178118408
I honestly dislike the doujins that show the Takamachi family as a horny lesbian couple incapable of controlling their urges in public and Vivio being the ashamed straight man to keep them in check.

In canon they definitely love each other but are so happy and secure of their relationship that they don't feel the need to being showoffs everywhere. Like this pic the Takamachi family is a happy wholesome home.
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>>178119427
Its a sol but people wanted it to be a drama.
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>>178119488
I guess it's good that I already know it's going to be SOL going into it, after watching 3 seasons of heavy drama Vivid seems like a nice change of pace.
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>>178072895
Have I been put into a special hell where autists' dreams are true?
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>>178119390
I didn't know courtesy was banned in /a/. Also anon told me before he would post that comic strip next day so that's why I'm greeting.

Pic related my favourite villains from FORCE. It was a blast watching them with all the edginess around.
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>>178119427
>ditching the character in the damn title of the series AGAIN
>changing the series into something it's not to pander to twats
>characterization down the drain, now everyone is just an archetype, has no personality or is a bad copy of a previous character (i mean it's not like strong characterization was one of the best aspects of the first two seasons lmao)
>no plot at all it's just tournament extravaganza with an increasing amount of pointless peanut gallery characters like some shitty shonen
And that's what it is, a shitty shonen, in a place it doesn't belong and nobody wanted it in. To someone like me, that actually enjoyed the first two seasons, just the mere concept of it is repulsive and I'm glad it was canceled and is getting non-canonized.
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>>178119656
We've been in that he'll since the release of the Nanoha Chronicles manga. It was the point where that said "screw it, we don't have anything better to do so we'll make retellings!".
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>>178119656
No, otherwise this >>178119663 faggot would have the Force continuation he literally can't stop having wet dreams about.
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>>178119677
Anon. ViVid wasn't cancell. It reached it's conclusion, unlike FORCE.
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>>178119677
>I'm glad it was canceled and is getting non-canonized.
What delusional world do you live in that you think Vivid has been canceled and non-canonized?
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>>178119783
Although I'm not a big fan of how Vivio scored her final victory I'm still glad they decided to wrap it up the story and let it reach it's conclusion instead of canning it like they did with FORCE.
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>>178119778
>>178119783
Semantics. It's not like Vivid had any story to tell anyway. It was just a bunch of bullshit that happened and that no one cared about.
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>>178119663
Don't worry about it anon, some people just take this place way too seriously
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>>178119922
>proven wrong
>I-I-It's just semantics!
The absolute state
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>>178120088
It is semantics. Vivid could have ended at literally any point in its run and you could tag it as it being the intended end. That's how little substance it had.
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>Nantoka
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>>178120260
DELETE THIS
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>>178120518
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>>178120518
Will someone get her name wrong again?
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>>178113097
>>178114172
>>178119313
I'm with you too.
I don't have problem with Signum incident at all (maybe because I wasn't here when /a/ raged about it?) but you are fucking true about the Subaru connection. Stuff would have been better without it no doubt.

>>178119663
I didn't find Grendels that great but hey, they weren't as annyoing as Huckebeins. By annoying I mean I wanted them dead and was not sure the manga is on the same wave with me. Yes I'm what you call a moral fag, mass murderers need to hang, Ideally I'd have them killed by Hades, sparing maybe the little girl and the seer, those were redeemable at least.

Of course, it is staple in mangas to later show that the bad guys weren't really that bad, but fuck you if you try to do it after they murder innocent people left and right with smile on their face.
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>>178120657
TAKAMACHI NANTOKA!!
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>>178119714
Yeah, that was a waste. I don't know how well that was selling, but fucking couldn't you used the mangaka for something material (and, no not in THAT sense)?
Ironically when Reflection came out, she posted lovely pics of Fate, Hayate and Nanoha. Some of the best renditions I saw in years. She nailed the perfect harmony of cute, cool and serious. Which you don't get with Takuya or the InnocentS author.
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Oh, here they are, couldn't find them at first.
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>>178120808
>hagyate
What a waste of a perfectly good pose.
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>>178120915
fuckoff bitchkun, I posted that for nonretards
Also you like breastling Hayate so screw yourself.
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>Takuya can't draw cool
Yes he can, just not when he's being made to draw trash.
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>>178120691
>Of course, it is staple in mangas to later show that the bad guys weren't really that bad, but fuck you if you try to do it after they murder innocent people left and right with smile on their face
I'll play Devil's Advocate for a moment and say that we don't have actual confirmation of most deaths attributed to the Hucks. Cypha said something about killing a village full of people to rustle Signum's jimmies but we don't know what really happened and for a brief second Cypha seemed serious and said something about the lines of " the need arised", aside of that their only confirmed kills are of other EC Drivers and staff of Vandein Corp. when raiding their labs (certainly villanous as I guess most of those people were just employees following orders). Then we have a church full of dead nuns when Tohma encountered Veyron but we also don't have a clear view of what happened there. It seems they we're saving those incidentally for some kind of big reveal. And as we saw when Veyron and Arnage saved Rosalia from Dego and Marty they do have a set of principles, we just don't know what those exactly are.
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>>178120988
Even when drawing trash he can still draw cool.
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>>178120957
Busted!
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>>178120832
I like pissed off Nanoha
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>>178120988
He has a cutesy style that can't catch the elegant, serious and cool nearly as much as >>178120832
It's particularly important with Fate
Fate should have looked like this in the movie: >>178120911
Fate only becomes moeblob due to having kids.
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>>178121065
Black Jacket is better
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>>178121076
I like what you did there.
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>>178079056
>Detonation is a huge success and makes a shitload of profit
Yeah no
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>>178121065
It's still preferable that he draw cool AND not trash.

>>178121630
Retard. I never said he draws the coolest Nanohas this side of Nanoha walking out of the fire. Just that he can draw cool which you seem to think he can't.
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>>178121053
Yeah, we have to hope something like that would have happened later.
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>>178121065
>>178121643
Yeah, Vivids he is great at. Probably because it's his characters.
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>>178121747
>still in denial
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>>178121643
Mama's Jacket is better.
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>>178121981
But that's Fate's jacket
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>>178117653
As someone who only read Force after it went on eternal hiatus almost all of the complaints people make about it applied mostly to the early chapters without later context and the release schedule. It starts out very strangely for something Nanoha related but by the time it was shelved it felt very much like a new entry and a lot of the earlier things people took issue with were setups to make moments more satisfying later. Thoma is an all right character, he doesn't even steal focus from anyone so other than his gender and kneejerk reactions I can't fathom what about him makes people so upset. A lot of people took issue with characters being able to fight against the main series cast so well and even win but even their losses were either showcasing a weakness of a character that already existed in earlier entries but hadn't been taken advantage of (See: Hayate) or simply the whole anti-magic virus thing which became negated with the new weapons being rolled out to everyone.

I don't think a manga was the right format for it admittedly, the release schedule and relative pacing is a large part of what got people so badly with it. There's a reason people want them to just make it into an anime with some things retooled.
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Nanoha is the best.
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>>178122067
Vivio doesn't look good in Nanoha's BJ.
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>>178122090
>I can't fathom what about him makes people so upset
>his gender
You already know.
Also no one wants an anime out of that shit. People want to move on from it. It was a mistake, mistakes happen sometimes, why dwell on it? It's just going to make it worse. You don't fix your broken leg by shoving it in people's faces.
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>>178122137
Untrue
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>>178122091
Agreed. She is.
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>>178122157
>You don't fix your broken leg by shoving it in people's faces
You don't fix it by ignoring the pain and faking that it's not there either.
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>>178122239
Oh no sorry, I was talking about the actual Nanoha, that you can see in this pic. Notcanon-ha can go to hell like she deserves lol.
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>>178122269
No, you go to a doctor, get treated, and then try not to do the thing that broke your leg again.

The former is Reflection, the latter is the reboot.
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>>178122160
She is simply not cool enought to dress like her mom. She should have worn her usual skinsuit.
That or Haru-nyan should have worn Fate's BJ instead.
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>>178122359
That's just wrong. Vivio is the coolest in anything she wares.
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>>178122327
Nope, Reflection is ignoring the problem instead of addressing it and do something about it. They just left the wound open and called it a day. FORCE needs to be patched up so the leg can walk and move forward. What they did was the equivalent of putting a band-aid on a fracture and buy and expensive pretty motor wheelchair.
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>>178122239
I'm the sort that's more into Feito but Nanoha is fine too.
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>>178122407
Reflection is addressing the problem by making it a non-factor. What you want them to do is to continue using their broken leg as if nothing had happened because "hurr at least they aren't ignoring it".

Can you fuck off with your Force fetish bullshit already?
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>>178122359
We shall never know how would that look in Innocent.
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>>178122506
Good. Stop using Innocent as your garbage dump. It started with so much promise, I don't know why you couldn't just leave it alone.
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I think it could be pretty cool but would have to watch out to not make it disgustingly pedo.
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>>178122303
>Dismissing the original Nanoha that you used to love just like that
That's just too cruel.
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>>178122557
>Dismissing the original Nanoha that you used to love
No, I dismissed some shitty hag that dared to call herself Nanoha and took the entire franchise down with her when nobody liked her.

The original Nanoha that I used to love is just barely resurfacing, and I can say I still love her.
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>>178122557
What do you expect from a mad shitter.
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>>178122548
That's Olivie
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>>178122548
Don't worry. It can't be pedo because no one finds Vivio arousing.
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>>178122486
False. I want them to acknowledge the injury and attend it properly so the main story can keep walking in the direction it was always intended.

Tsuzuki needs to man up.
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>>178122623
Hmm, it seems a bit like that but I don't think so. It has Vivio's face and civil hairdo. Pretty sure the sleeves just hide her arms/hands because they are too long and it is not supposed to look as if she had no arms.
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>>178122628
That's just not true
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>>178122598
Are you allergic to tits or something? She's still Nanoha you k
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>>178122683
I'm willing to die on this hill and I'm telling you it's Olivie.
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>>178122725
Such determination.
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>>178122689
Nah, clearly she has to be arousing. I actually got banned last time for posting clothed (adult) Vivio with one nipple exposed. i wonder if it was bitchkun reporting me because he's himself or you know who reporting me because the picture implied Vivio-Hayate shipping. Amusing.

Talking about this pic, for science >>>/u/2680644
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>>178122670
>I want them to acknowledge the injury and attend it properly
That sounds just like Reflection.
>so the main story can keep walking in the direction it was always intended.
You mean the direction made solely to appeal to normalfags and that seriously crippled the franchise's potential? Yeah you really care about Nanoha's well being do ya. I'm very much fine with her walking a new path that hopefully won't bring her to such horrible places.

>Tsuzuki needs to man up.
He did. Otherwise you would have your garbage StrikerS movie. He stood up to faggots and firmly told you "no".
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>>178122746
It's Detonation
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>>178122725
I'll try to see if I can find something in the twitter post. If this thread dies first, I'll post it on /u/ thread.
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>>178122703
You don't know anything about Nanoha if you think that ugly faker is even close to her.
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>>178122805
You know FORCE was Tsuzuki's pet project did you? It's the direction he wanted but got pussywhipped by executives into stopping and keep retelling stuff he already did, poor guy. If you want to thank something it's notthe author but the people of marketing that forced him to go against his wishes and save you from the horror of watching Nanoha more forward and achieving her dreams. At least temporarily because if Detonation have a follow up you bet Nanoha will be a growing teenager aiming at becoming a badass TSAB member
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>>178122725
https://twitter.com/masimarotaruto/status/973811867767451649
>お腹のまるみに幼女みを詰めた!

Huh, not sure but "young lady"? I'd say it's Vividio
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>>178123009
You know Force was competely garbage did you? I couldn't care less about what the creators think, or the creative process behind Nanoha. Why should anyone care? What matters are the result, and the result of Force was that it sucked, and bringing up irrelevant shit is not going to change that.

Reflection is a positive result. That's what's best.
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Hmm, some gooddies I found along the way.
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>>178123117
>I couldn't care less about what the creators think, or the creative process behind Nanoha
No more questions. Gentlemen of the jury, I rest my case.
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>>178122689
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>>178123064
Olivie was a young lady
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>>178123219
>I want more universally-despised Tsuzuki wank, who cares what's actually best for Nanoha's future!
You could have said that at the start so everyone could know what you're actually about.
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>>178123273
I think that matches 10-12 Vivio more.
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>>178123346
I already told you I'll die on this hill. It's Olivie.
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>>178123367
Your Detonation is admirable.
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>>178103255
Whew, quite a lot of materials. Hope it's not shit.
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Look at how close it is. Doesn't it excite you? That Nanoha will finally return to us.
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>>178123538
I guess when ron wants to do it. I'd love more but it probably takes a very long time to translate it by yourself.
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>>178123538
Ron-sama forgive us retarded autists.
Give us more Vivid Life.
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Creators should just pretend Force never existed, and make a new sequel
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>>178123653
I'll be cool with a reworked 3th season that follows up StrikerS while also taking ViVid into account. Not hard to do since Vivio's involvement in FORCE was reduced to two cameos disconnected from the main plot.
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>>178123644
Like a year ago he said he would if people actually reported Bitch-kun. So people did for like a month, then he released a volume, then everyone stopped reporting and we never got any more.
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>>178123653
What do you call this >>178123592
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>>178123721
Fuck.
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>>178123717
No, Vivid is boring shit that has no plot
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>>178123592
Well where I live Indonesia the anime in cinemas can be late by up to six months, so I don't think I'm going to be able to watch it this year.
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>>178123717
>*reworked 4th season
My bad.
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>>178123722
It is not a sequel for StrikerS
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>>178123742
That sucks. Nobody should be deprived from more Nanoha, especially the ones that need it the most to have some sense knocked back into their heads.
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>>178123721
I don't recall that.
I always reported him a to the last post I could spot, but then others stopped, post would not get deleted, I got a warning.
People also forgot they must not react to him so that makes it difficult too.
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>>178123742
Nanoha never aired in my country Brazil
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>>178123820
>I don't recall that.
It was on /u/
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>>178123791
Oh I thought you wanted a good sequel.
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>>178123739
Pretty much. The best way to move forward with Nanoha at this point is to reboot everything. Which is what's going to happen so that's sorted out.
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>>178123820
>People also forgot they must not react to him so that makes it difficult too.
This is the part that confuses me. I don't think reporting him is a solution because what he does isn't necessarily rulebreaking or anything, but people cannot help but engage his dumb ass constantly even though his posts stick out like a sore thumb.
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>>178123875
Cheeky
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Fine, I'll do it myself.





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