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Toriyama says goku has no interest in marriage or parenting and sees chichi and his sons as just companions. His manga beared this out.

Fans cite toei filler when arguing that he's a good father.
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Fuck you,Dragon Ball.
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Also so many latin fans think kid buu is the strongest buu. Dumbasses
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>Fans cite toei filler when arguing that he's a good father.
Nah, I just cite the manga to be honest.

>taking post-DB Toriyama's word
Mr. "Tao Pai Pai who?" and "I thought SS3 was SS2"
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>>178127506
Literally nothing in that page contradicts OP
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>>178127555
>anon can't into parenting
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Any Kame Sennin here?
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>>178127590
>telling someone you're proud of them makes you a great parent
Well I guess my school teachers showed some great parenting towards me when they said they were proud of me.
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Will there be ultra instinct in broly movie?
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>Beam struggles are part of almost every fight in the anime
>Meanwhile in the manga they are rarely seen

Goku vs Jackie Chun
Goku vs Piccolo Jr
Goku vs Vegeta
Gohan vs Cell (2 times)
Goku vs Beerus

why does the anime overuse them so much when there's only been 6 beam struggles in the entire manga?
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>>178127590
Yet another page that doesn't contradict the OP
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He has saved the world on constantly, and it's obvious his sons inherited his happy go lucky personality because they sure as fuck didn't get it from Chi-Chi and Piccolo.

Would you really give a shit if your dad wasn't at the dinner table if he's literally given his life for the Earth like twice? People keep mentioning shitty parenting but he literally died for Gohan's mistake, and didn't make it seem like it was a big deal sparing his fucking conscience. People today are way too into hugs and child development books but he is just tough love, literally. He's a fucking warrior.
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>>178127725
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>>178127725
Because Goku/Vegeta and Gohan/Cell struggles are some of the most iconic scenes of the franchise. And because the concept is awesome, it'd get every 7 y. o. boy pumped.
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>>178127780
Because it's cheap to animate.
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>>178127773
>"would you care if your dad wasn't at the dinner table"
Yeah I would since my dad isn't fucking around. Sure he does good things but if he's not fucking here to be my dad then no shit I'd be upset
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>>178127773
People like to forget that he's not from Earth.
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>>178127864
>Yeah I would since my dad isn't fucking around.
What a beta cuck.
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>>178127864
>vegetafags take their anger out on goku because he reflects on their fathers being shit to them
POETRY
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>>178127725
Beam struggles were something saved for an occasion that warranted them. Toei just thought they were cool so they spammed them. It got so bad that when Super does them, it doesn't feel as exciting.
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>>178127901
>my parents arent around to be parents
>"just get over it bro"
Damn anon who fucked you over?
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>>178127413
Also so many american fans think Gohan was 11 & A TEEN when he killed Cell. Retards.
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>>178127814
too bad they don't look badass in super
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>>178127918
Funny enough Goku is one of my favorite characters out of the franchise. Vegeta became shit after the Namek arc
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>>178127966
No one, because my parents actually care about me. Even if my dad was MIA, I wouldn't be crying about it like the bitch you are.
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>>178127975
that's from videogames calling him Teen Gohan
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Kid Goku x Pan is truly the ship we got but didn't deserve
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>>178127975
Americans barely read books let alone a manga. They wouldn't know that Gohan wasn't 11 during the Cell Games
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>>178127918
nah, gokufags see goku as their surrogate daddy that's why they sperg out when anyone makes fun of him.
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WAKEY WAKEY VEGETTOFAGS
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>>178128011
>"If X happened to me then I wouldn’t feel like Y"
Oh boy you're one of those
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>>178128071
Cry less and maybe your father will love you, Vegetacuck.
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>>178128102
nice boogeyman
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>>178127864
My dad isn't around either, and it isn't for a good reason like "I died saving the Earth" but if it was I would actually be proud to have him as a father because that's an actual good reason to be gone for 8+years in total, and to be obsessed with battle.
He's the hero, he's literally popped up in front of Gohan twice when he was a little boy and beat the shit out of the people causing him harm.
As a son, that would just solidify the fact that my father is great.
Imagine seeing all your friends die, your mentor, and they're coming for you next and then your dad jumps down from a cloud and beats the shit out of the man who did it all.
Flash forward to namek for a repeat.
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>>178128097
I wouldn't be taking my advice with a grain of salt if I were you, it'd do you well. Lots of children do good without having a father, you're no different.
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>>178127590
B-but muh internet parody told my that Goku was a bad father and that Piccolo was a better dad to Gohan than him! Did TFS lie to me?
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I MISS RADITZ BROS
WHEN IS /OURGUY/ COMING BACK
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>>178128119
VEGETADUMPLINGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>178128126
>It happens to lots of people so I'll be fine too
Oh boy you're one of those too
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>>178128143
*raughs*
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>>178128145
What does that even mean?
Why all caps, I didn't even mention Vegeta you mongoloid.
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>>178128161
You will be fine, anon. Daddy not being in the picture doesn't mean your life ends.
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>>178128136
>Toriyama confirms Goku is an asshole retard in interviews
>Roshi confirms Goku is an asshole retard in BoG movie
>Vegeta confirms Goku is an asshole retard in Super manga
>Sabat confirms the same
>Gokek niggers STILL can't cope and pretend it's all just a TFS meme
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>>178128143
Never, he already reincarnated and Toriyama only care about Frieza.
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Hi!
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>>178128170
he's just a gokutard parroting every meme he sees.
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>>178127506
missed the scene where goku had to be asked to do this
>>178127590
goku's sacrifice with cell was selfish, he only did it to get a body in the afterlife to train there, saving earth was an afterthought, "not a good guy at all, but does good things as a result", he was apologizing because he already knew that he wouldn't be coming back, he already says that he will be having fun up there when he contacts gohan and then that he isn't a martyr on the lookout
also "I'm proud of you" is a mistranslation, in the OG version he says "I was impressed" and it's the kind of thing he says to everyone
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>>178128208
Le monke!
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>>178128188
I can just smell the Hot Topic clothing you've got on
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>>178128040
Now I'm sad.
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>>178128242
Struck a nerve?
>>178128228
>goku's sacrifice with cell was selfish
LOL vegetaniggers actually believe this. hadn't he done that, everyone would have been dead.
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Fucking hell, still 4 days to go until the first pages from the new chapter leaks.
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>>178128169
when will Yamcha get a girlfriend, Toriyama-sama?
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>>178128292
*more raughing*
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>I know if I fight Vegeta-sama right now we'll wake up Majin Buu at full power and none of us will be able to stop him, but isn't that exciting? the idea of losing to Vegeta again is making me go dokidoki wakuwaku!

>Woah! Vegeta-sama, did you see that? That Buu guy just killed all my friends and family, isn't that exciting?!

>V-vegeta-sama, Buu has already kicked our asses several times and he even destroyed our planet, but I don't want to fuse, I want to fight by myself even though I'm 100% sure that I cannot win
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>2-0
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>1-0
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>>178128292
Puar is the best girl in Dragon Ball.
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>>178128415
But he's a guy
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Was Goku sexually molested as a child? There is alot of evidence supporting this:
>·All alone in the woods with an Old Man.
>·Has a habit of touching people on the special spot.
>·Likes sleeping on genitals.
>·Likes getting naked for people.
>·Slicks objects in peoples butts.
>·Doesnt know how to be good with girls.
>·Bulma & Launch have their way with him at times too.
These are all the signs people.
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>3-0
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>>178128432
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What the fuck was Launch and Roshi's relationship?
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>>178128371
Vegeta tied with Fat Buu and then defeated Kid Buu (the spirit bomb was his idea, so technically it's his victory, not Goku's)
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>>178128449
Still can't beat Prince Trunks.
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>>178128263
sure, but his motivation to do it was selfish, toriyama made it pretty explicit with that vegeta's comment that goku is dishonest
same with raditz, he just wanted to defeat him so he could get to see 2 even stronger saiyans, he couldn't care less about "saving earth"
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>>178128478
>Vegeta tied with Fat Buu
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>1-0
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>>178128460
i'm straight, but only a faggot wouldn't
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>>178128547
whoops sorry that's 2-0
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>>178128547
Kek.
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>>178128308
please?
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>>178128581
not canon

>3-1
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>>178128581
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>>178128547
Super Kek.
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>1- 0
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W-where's Gohan in this poster bros?
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>>178128547
in the end, gohan fainted and vegeta didn't, so technically vegeta won that fight
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>>178128681
Training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.
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>>178128681
Dead.
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>>178128681
Getting pegged by Videl.
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>>178128380
>>178128417
>>178128449
>>178128473
>>178128517
>>178128547
>>178128579
>>178128611
no matter how much you cry stamp your feet, and hide behind other characters, this will never chang
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>>178128681
In the trash where he belongs.
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Imagine your role in all the movies being just to job before Goku and/or Gohan has their time to shine. Imagine if it's not that, it's fusing with the superior character to defeat an enemy.
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>>178127773
Dude, you can't guage feelings from anime or manga, we will never know unless Goku explicitly says he loves his family. Until then we have Toriyama interview
Goku is a shit dad, Piccolo is the best father
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>>178128611
Kek.
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>>178128742
This
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Imagine once you FINALLY have the chance to kill your nemesis, you fuck up so hard that it costs you both your life and everyone on the planet and the MC has to show up to clean your mistakes.
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>>178128192
I really really like this image
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>>178128743
>>178128788
being a vegetacuck is suffering
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>>178128438
>All alone in the woods with an Old Man
Doubt Gohan did anything to him.
>has a habit of touching people in their special spot
That was something Bulma caused.
>Likes sleeping on genitals
He didn't have a pillow bro. That's gotta be the reason right?
>Likes to get naked for people
His nude adventures are purely accidental, he just doesn't care.
>Sticks objects in people's butts
It's just a secret move dude you just wouldn't understand.
>Doesn't know how to be good with girls
He didn't know how to be good with ANYONE. Tends to happen when you've never seen another human being before
>Bulma & Launch have their way with him at times too
Shit happens
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>>178128228
that's what you get for sucking VIZ translations!

why did amerifats normalize this shit!? like that became the norm!?
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>>178128040
Oh no! Pan's been a bad girl again! Looks like she needs to be spanked by her Grandpa!
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>>178128743
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>>178128861
Anon!!!!
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>>178128872
>actually gave beerus some entertainment instead of boring him to death
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>>178127555
yeah look at Goku hugging Yamcha and telling him to take care of Puar too
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>>178128460
This is Roshi's girl now.
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>>178128872
>tumblr
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What did he mean by this?
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>>178127725
time
you can literally drag out a beam struggle as long as you want in the anime, but you can'treally in the manga
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>>178128681
Frieza's tail looks awful, once you notice it you can't ignore it.
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>>178128928
>sigh...
KEK
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>>178128040
What is this, an image for ants?
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>>178128318
Is this what happened in the English dub?
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>>178128907
That literally falls under being a good friend and lets not forget Goten had to ASK to get a hug. The page doesn't contradict the OP
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>>178127773
Goku being a bad dad is something perpetuated by people who didn't actually watch the anime. Don't forget there are people out there who have only seen DBZA and see "memes" on instagram
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>never kissed his wife
>wasn't there for either kids birth
>threw his son to the wolves vs cell instead of explaining to him beforehand
>leaves wife to train poo in the loo
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Hey everyone! I just came here from twitter after seeing Ajay and Risu post pics of convos here. So happy to meet new fans of Dragon Ball! ^_^
Who's your favorite character? Mine is Future Trunks
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>>178129010
No, thats sub. Do you not see the honorifics?
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>>178129063
>the anime
Sorry we don't care about toei filler. Toriyama himself said toei portrayed him in a way he didn't like. If its not in the manga, it doesn't count.

remember when he hugged goten the 1st time he saw him? Yeah toei fluff not in the manga
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>>178129064
>vegetafag taking his hatred for his own father out on goku
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>>178129076
post those tweets
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>>178128954
It's nice and thicc. Just the way Bejita likes it.
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What's the best dragon ball doujin?
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>>178129129
Anything by garland.
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Why does /a/ hate Vegeta so much
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>>178129080
But the Japanese version played out differently, maybe the Spanish dub used honorifics?
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>>178128681
he's studying how to go blanco
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>>178127506
Literally nothing you posted contradicts that Goku has no interest in being a husband or father you retard
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>>178129063
are you retarded? goku being a good dad is a meme perpetuated by people who have watched the anime instead of reading the manga
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>>178128417
Why is it that a series made 30 years ago with a smaller budged, looks and feels better than the modern franchise? Take for instance Tenshinhan vs Teen Goku.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvG6pVdPqnw
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>>178129146
I don't. I just hate Vegetafags.
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>>178129146
he gets too much screentime, for being such a loser
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>>178129146
>Vegetacucks constantly obsessing over Goku in every single thread
>Finally get a taste of your own medicine
>HURR DURR WHY DO EVERY1 HATE US??? IT NO FAIR!!
That's why.
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>>178128681
I miss Yamamuro. There, I said it.
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>>178129214
Fuck off. Gokufags were the one who started this, Vegeta fans retaliated.
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>>178129146
Everyone who likes some character beside him and Goku blame Vegeta for how their character is sidelined, due to him almost permanently taking this number 2 position in the new material (with the ToP being the only exception).
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>>178128681
Marrying Kale in U6 while Cabbe marry Caulifla.
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>goku is a bad husband/father
God dammit I hate that TFS popularized this stupid meme shit.
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>>178129194
Toei is shit now.
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>>178129218
t. Yamamuro
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>>178129232
No.
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>>178129214
You do realize that the Vegeta shit came first, right? Of course you do.
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>>178128681
>"Mmm... sweetie, this is cool and all, but you are a nobody and I don't care about your work"

Holy shit, can you believe this guy?
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>>178129146
Just Gayhan faggots screeching. Nothing more.
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>>178129145
Are there any good doujins for Videl that aren't vanilla?
Or any good Freeza doujins?
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>>178129298
The graphics of this game is pure shit
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>>178129232
>>178129269
>WE WUZ BEIN GUD BOIZ WE JUZ RETALIAYTED TO INJUSTIZZ!!!
First off, that's a straight up lie. Second, stop making excuses for being annoying pieces of shit.
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>goku saves gohan from raditz therefore he is a good dad
>goku saves the turtle from the bandit therefore he loves animals
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>>178129252
Yamamuro shat something better than that any day of the week. That looks bad, awful, terrible.
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>>178129295
The poster looks fine, Ajay can suck a dick
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>>178129247
>I hate that even the retards that made that shitty parody understand something as simple and canon as Goku giving no fucks about family while I'm a retard that thinks he's a good father and husband
Shameful
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>>178129194
They actually cared about making a good product. I believe they went out of their way to change directors and find a good one because they needed the action scenes to have more punch.
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>>178129247
>stupid meme shit
READ THE FUCKING MANGA, anime is not canon, when will you understand
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>>178129322
Well garland did one with videl and gohan, there's a whole bunch done by this one artist but I forgot his name.
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>>178129298
They know that looks terrible, right? There's no way they' ve seen that and thought "yes, it looks amazing, people are going to like it."
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>>178129341
t. Yamamuro
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>>178129129
Yamamoto draws Teen Bulma hot as fuck
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>>178129356
But it wasn't made by his mancrush SHITani, it doesn't matter if it looks good or not.
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>>178129381
>READ THE FUCKING MANGA,
Ok.
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>>178129416
t.Ajay.
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Don’t be mean. Ajay is depressed. That’s why you have to excuse everything he does or says
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>>178128228
>selfish
>did it to save earth
>also did it because he thought it would prevent further evil from coming due to his high power level
So he found positives in death and that makes it selfish?
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>>178129381
>>178129464
BUT WAIT... THERE'S MORE
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>>178129298
>Goku and Vegeta actually go SSB, not only SS
Good. Too bad it still looks like fucking shit, if they wanted that style something like DB Zenkai Battle Royale would have been better
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>>178129181
>>178129381
>its not a meme you just havent read the manga lmao
You do realise that the "Goku is a bad dad meme" precedes the manga itself by several years and Toyotaro just jumped on the bandwagon that was perpetuated by TFS in the first place, right? Retards.
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>>178129341
You do know that poster isn't by Shintani and is by some random promo artist right?
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>>178129514
DAJOUBOU
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>>178129536
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>>178129464
>>178129514
>look, Goku is nice to someone he sees as a friend, that proves he feels paternal love for him!
Dumb retard.
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>>178129536
OH NONONONONO
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>>178129464
The "I'm proud of you line is a mistranslation". He only says he was impressed. Besides that nothing said there was something only a father could say to his son.
>>178129514
>Goku going to eat food somehow makes you a great dad.
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>>178129538
Mine is better.
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>>178129538
>Jobl
>ever being worthy of CHADza
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>>178129064
Wait, how do you know he wasn't around for Gohan's birth?
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>>178129605
this scene was so pointless in the end, it's sad.
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>>178129605
>still nothing that only a father could say to a son
So pathetic. So sad.
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>hmm, my sons' lives or a fight with kid buu?
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>>178129605
I can just keep going.
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>>178129605
>woah he hugged him. Surely this means he's being a good parent and not just being a nice fucking dude
I swear you people are reaching way too hard for these panels
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>>178129514
>goku being a jerk to gohan by trying to get him relaxed in a bad faith without telling him the truth
>gohan doesn't get relaxed, is constantly stressed about cell
>"goku is good"
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>>178129645
>let me not post the part where goten asks for a hug
Yeah no. He hasn't done anything only a father could do. He's been showing that he's a great person and friend but these panels aren't doing anything to show he is a great father
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>>178129645
>BUT HE DOESN'T CARE
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Fat fuck.
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>>178129586
>Reeeeee My meme is real. REAL!!!!
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>>178129689
OHNONONO
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>>178129728
>knows he's no match for raditz, STILL wants to save gohan
DAMN WHAT A BAD DAD
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>>178129751
WHAT A TERRIBLE UNCARING FATHER
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Is this Risu or the return of insanity anon?
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>>178129773
>NOOOOOO GOKU DOESN'T CONSIDER GOHAN AS A SON, HE'S HIS FRIEND REEEEEEEEEEEE
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Meanwhile....
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>178129710
>meme
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
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I'm here to accept some apologies.
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I CAN GET NO SATISFACTION
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>>178129834
>vegeta is one of those special saiyans, the type that cares about their family
kek.
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>>178129538
>>178129629
this

only Yamcha is worthy of her
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>takes trunks DYING for him to care
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>>178129689
>>178129728
>>178129751
>>178129773
Literally every single one of these can extend to how he'd react if this happened to a friends. Nothing here is exclusive to how a father would feel towards his son except maybe >>178129689 but thats iffy too. You're trying but not hard enough
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>Vegetafags: READ THE MANGA! GOKU BEING A BAD DAD ISN'T A MEME
>Anon posts various examples from the manga
>Vegetacucks are silent
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>>178126281
Goku is the most autistic and unbelievable Shonen protag. Even Luffy acts more normal in comparison because at least he actually avoids things he's not interested in.

DBZ is like if Luffy fucking Hancock, had three kids, and then STILL acted like an asexual autismo and they just made excuses for why he even had a family, like she tricked him into sex with a steak dinner or some shit.
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>>178129878
>the one time he cares about his son, he fucks everything up
I wish Super Cell and SS2 Gohan fought.
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>>178129645
refuses to be brought back from yadrat, as he finally comes back thanks to frieza he doesn't even say hi to gohan, his only interest is who was the strong guy to beat frieza
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>>178129895
>Thinks it's Vegetafans.
Kek.
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>>178129892
He knows, these retards always do the same

>GOKU ISN'T A DICK WITH GOHAN SO HE MUST LOVE HIM IN A VERY SPECIAL WAY EXCLUSIVE TO FATHERS WITH THEIR CHILDREN
Pretty pathetic.
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>>178129895
Just wait for them to post their shitty wojak edits like they do every thread.
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>>178129895
Been responding this entire time. Literally nothing the anon posted are things only a father would do for his son besides like one
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>>178127773
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Most satisfying scene in Super.
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>>178129951
this shows how shitty DBS looks
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>>178129951
Yeah, you can really see how much they love and trust each other.
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>TERRIBLE AND UNCARING DAD
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>>178129645
didn't see gohan and chichi for 7 years, spots that has a new son
goes straight for tournament booths
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>>178129951
Imagine what it feels like to get hugged by Cell
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>>178129916

Me too, that would've been one awesome fight.
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>>178130010
spotty at best
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>>178129645
doesn't care about what's happening to gohan as he refused ressurection for 1 year, as he comes back he doesn't show any affection towards gohan
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>>178129416
I think that Yamamuro's version of Gohan looks better, Gohan on the left looks dead inside.
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>>178129895
Oh I got it so you are just a retard that can't accept Goku is a bad father like the 90% of saiyans because you can't love him that way.
What a fucking retard. Goku will never care about his family in a special way and you don't need it to like him, just like you don't need Vegeta to care about his family (like he does now) to like him
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>>178129994
kek
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>>178128478
>Tied with Fat buu

LOL
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cute
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>>178129990
Literally nothing there that only a dad would do. Next you'll say because Goku played with Zeno that made him a good parent
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>>178129990
>GOKU DOESN'T CARE ABOUT HIS SONS REEEEEEEE
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>>178129146
>https://www.strawpoll.me/14713232
Imply some more
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>>178130029
They're both Yamamuro.
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>>178130058
he looks tied to me
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Holy shit you are right. That's it, for Goku Zeno is his adoptive son! What a lovely family man
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>>178129850
So he had no interest in it, but it doesn't mean he was bad at it. He still did husband and fatherly duties.
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>>178129146
Because I wanted Majin Piccolo
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>>178130097
>No captcha
So basically some Vegetanigger just botted the poll.
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>>178130120
Mean to reply >>178130074
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Damn, this Gokufag rekt this TFS believing Vegetacuck.
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What happened to her?
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I can't believe it's almost over.
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>>178129892
>la la la I can't hear you!
>he would totally react the same others
>la la la
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>>178130080
>Goku is defending a friend from death (and right after other friend died)
>HE LOVES HIM HE'S A LOVELY FATHER
Dumbskull, stop trying, you are embarrassing yourself
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>>178130080
>woah he protected his friends
So its nothing. You must be baiting at this point
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>>178130157
she was taken to the village as a reward from Nam
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>>178129645
sees vegeta do this to gohan
"let him go, I know he will try to kill us again, but I want to have a good fight"
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Less than 1:30 hours remaining untill part 3 of episode 60 of the TFS-dub.
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>>178130156
Dont worry. I'll be making a collage full of these examples and every time jobgetafags act up, I'll be there.
>>178130173
kek
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>>178130193
She's married.
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>>178128928
The back of Bulma''s head is so sexy. I just want to run my fingers against those shaved blue strands.
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>>178130195
I think this is why Gohan hates fighting, and the entire Namek arc too.
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>>178130133
>He did husbandly and fatherly duties
No he didn't. Literally everything he's done would be the same thing on would do for a friend
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>>178130080
Fuck off with your spamming Risu. You never actually debate anyone, you just spam images with all caps. Fuck off you annoying tranny bitch.
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>>178130246
nice boogeyman vegetadumpling.
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>>178130141
>This ammount of denial
How can Gokeks even compete?
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>>178130215
So what?
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>>178130241
>begged for examples
>given
>HE WOULD DO IT FOR A FRIEND REEEE
You lose.
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>>178130246
Legit I'm thinking this is her too.
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>>178130156
I'm more surprised someone defending Goku, since shitting on the character seems to be cool now.
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What do you feel when you hear this.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4apvo3w97qY
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>>178130211
How fucking long has that been going on anyway? I remember being in university and half the fucking campus seemed to be watching the saiyan saga.
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>>178130275
You didnt provide ANYTHING showing something only a father would do. You just showed panels and pages of Goku being a good person and friend with some pages reaching hard
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>>178130080
GOKU IS AN ANIMAL PROTECTOR
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>>178129331
>straight up lie
nice delusion, cry more bitch
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>>178130295
disappointment, in how shit the ToP arc was
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>>178130324
Not him, but thought I'd chime in. I don't understand what your point even is anymore.
Goku has shown to actually:
>care for his children and friends
>embrace them
>save them from being killed
And what holds him back as being a shit father to you? The fact that he wasn't around for their birth?
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>>178130080
Not saying they are right, but their forced point is he treats his son like a comrade, not a son, so in a way, he'd still get in the way if that was Krillin or Piccolo in that scene.
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>>178130324
>still in denial
LOLOL and he's also more of a dad than vegeta ever was
in fact, he's shown more than what any father has done in this series
nice one
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>>178130357
>Imma na genkai toppa!
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>Oh my god Goku said "Bless you" to Gohan when he sneezed! This surely means he is doing fatherly duties and is a great parent
The logic of the posters in this thread
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>>178130215
That is one super cucked husband.
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>>178130246
>tranny bitch

muh dik
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>>178130371
SHUT UP

GOKU WAS A BAD DAD
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>>178130133
>dies
>his FOUR YEAR OLD son is without him for 10 months
>then he goes back and stays in a hospital with him a month
>2 months later he sees him for a few hours
>"I guess I can leave my 5 year old son alone again... this time a year. Yeah a year is fine, I want to learn some new techniques"

>doesn't mean he was bad at it
kek

>still did husband and fatherly duties.
Never

>inb4 >>178130275
>no argument whatsoever
(You) lose, he protected Gohan like he protects every other friend and he played with Goten like he plays with other child minded people like the Zenos >>178130120
You are full of shit and you know it
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>>178129214
how exactly do you obsess over the main plot point of the show that's forced down our throats? keep seething.
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>>178130371
Nothing about that contradicts the fact that he doesn't see them in a familial sense or the fact that he sees them as close companions. Nothing about that contradicts that he doesn't care for parenting. Those are just examples of him being a good person. How far do you people reach
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>>178128745
Goku has said that he loves Chi-Chi and he's also hugged and kissed her in DBZ. Eat shit
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>>178130438
gohan would never like traps, delete this shit.
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>>178130455
>Never
nice bait
these manga panels have proven you wrong.
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>>178130080
post the real pic
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>>178130461
they're retarded. they can't accept how toriyama wrote their surrogate father.
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>>178130461
He's still shown to be as about fatherly as every other father in this series, maybe save Bardock, I guess? Just because he doesn't meet your standards of a good father doesn't negate the fact that he was objectively a caring one.
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>>178130464
He never stated this. He only stated this in the fucking dub you retard. The kiss was also an anime only add on
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How will vegetapedros ever recover
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>>178128126
>argumentum ad populum
Concession accepted, dog.
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>>178130058
I mean he's definitely tied
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>>178130471
>if I repeat myself I'll be right
Adorable
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>>178130507
He's done nothing to show he cares for parenting or that he sees his family as anything more than close friends. Literally everything he has done is nothing that only a father could do for his child which is the point
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how will gokupablos ever recover
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>>178128530
They didn't even know the two stronger Saiyans were coming when Goku sacrificed himself to kill Raditz you goddamn fucking idiot.
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>>178130507
he's not a caring father, his care doesn't extend further than protecting from danger, and he does it for everyone, even a fucking turtle at the beginning of DB
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>>178130550
>He's done nothing to show he cares for parenting
Except those spammed manga panels prove otherwise. He protects his son, and cares about him, shown on more than one occasion. The first arc is him wanting to SAVE Gohan. At this point, I think you're just trolling.
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>>178130241
>fucked Chi-Chi
>gave Chi-Chi a kid
>provided shit like fire wood, food, etc for Chi-Chi
>spends the 4 years or so after Piccolo battle being entirely with Chi-Chi and Gohan
>carries Gohan around when he is a kid and even gives him the 4 star ball
>etc. etc.
They are just really good friends to him though. I won't doubt the guy loves to fight and that is priority #1, but to act like he is bad husband and father is just sticking your head in the sand.
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>>178130161
What's almost over?
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>>178130572
A father should protect his children, right? Bingo.
>>178130580
This. Literally delusional.
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>>178130058
>Toei's non-canon fanfiction
Retard
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>>178128611
>not canon
>posts non-canon Super anime
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>>178129834
Poor yajirobe
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>>178130573
Protecting Gohan and a wounded Piccolo doesnt mean he cares for parenting. He protected his friends which he views them as. Did you think you made a good point with this?
>the first arc is him wanting to save Gohan
No it isn't the first arc is about them trying to stop the saiyans. The first few chapters were about Goku wanting to save Gohan but that kind of situation isn't exclusive for just a father considering fucking Krillin wanted to save Gohan too.
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>>178130580
>provided shit like fire wood, food, etc for Chi-Chi
Are you talking about some dumb filler or something? Everything they had was bought using King Ox/Chichi's money
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>>178130612
Hmmm...last time I checked....Vegeta died in both versions...and buu didn't. Hmm...that sounds like Buu won...retard
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>>178130640
Please, by all means, give me 5 examples of the ideal father to you in DB.
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>>178130563
read again retard, he tells them almost at the very beginning of the fight
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>>178129951
Jobs to a furry.
Kek.
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>>178130257
Please, it's definitely him. He posts the exact same way on discord and twitter.
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>>178130650
I'm going by anime, but the first scene is legit him getting a giant tree to bring back to the house. I never said he provided the house as Chi-Chi said at the end of DB that the Ox King already made them one. Do you think the Ox King was delivering food and shit daily and that Goku wasn't going out and hunting like he had been since he was child?
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>>178130440
>>178130371
>>178129464
He was though.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6-4iDuSqyI
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>>178130550
Being a good dad is about actions themselves, not showing you care about some abstract idea or whatever exclusivity bullshit you are spouting.
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>>178130242
>Tame?
Lizard was raped.
Violently.
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>>178130282
I wonder if Risu was insanity anon all along
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>>178130714
Based.
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>>178130640
He impatiently rushes off after getting his ass kicked by Radditz to face him again. Yea he totally would have done the same if it was Turtle who was kidnapped.
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>>178130580
>provided shit like fire wood, food, etc for Chi-Chi
he didn't provide shit, they lived thanks to chichi's father fortune which ran dry in the buu saga
>spends the 4 years or so after Piccolo battle being entirely with Chi-Chi and Gohan
what makes you think he did? there was a timeskip and goku even missed gohan's birth, he probably was out training like usual showing up from time to time to see if gohan is ready to be trained
>carries Gohan around when he is a kid and even gives him the 4 star ball
same thing he does to uub, gives him kintoun and carries him around
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>>178130779
TRACED
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>>178130779
No one compares to Toriyama.
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>>178129632
Still waiting. I'm being honest too, as maybe it was said in the manga. I'm an anime only fuck, but I don't remember anything in the anime saying he wasn't there and if anything, it's hinted at that all he does is spend time with Chi-Chi and Gohan between Piccolo and Raditz with little to no training.
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>>178130580
>Fucked Chi-Chi
Literally no evidence of this, Chi-Chi is just a friend
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>>178130776
>Goku's family went from Ox King gimme's to Mr.Satain gimme's.
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>>178130779
Pathetic.
Toyoshitos on the ground as usual.
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>Goku plays with Gohan/Goten like he does with even Zeno now
>"GOKU LOVES HIM AS HIS SON"

>Goku protects Gohan/Goten like he does with every single friend he has
>"Y-YOU CAN'T DENY HE'S A LOVELY FATHER"

>Goku says something good about Gohan/Goten
>"FUCKING TFS MEMES, THIS PROVES GOKU IS THE BEST FATHER EVER"

>Goku smiles while talking to Gohan/Goten
>"LOOK AT THIS FATHER-SON RELATIONSHIP"

>Goku exists near to Gohan/Goten
>"MAN I WISH MY FATHER LOVED ME THAT MUCH BUT NO ONE IS AS GOOD AS GOKU AT THIS"
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>>178130802
Toyotaro is especially bad compared to Toriyama
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>>178126281
I think Goku being responsible for killing his grandpa fucked him up mentally. He was quite different during the early stages of the Z saga. A way more caring and fatherl figure.
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>>178130512
>muh dub
>muh anime only
Not arguments. Don't waste my fucking time if you aren't going to bring something to the debate.
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>>178130467
there's nothing wrong with traps, i bet CHADhan would give his seed to a qt one too
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>tfw dont watch dragon ball anymore cause not a brainlet
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>>178130658
Buu would have been killed were it not for his regeneration, with Vegeta dying too. It was a tie, spic.
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>>178130779
He's a fucking amateur, why people suck his dick is beyond me.
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>>178130681
>Toei actually held this information back until after the sacrifice to better fall in line with Goku's character
How do they do it lads? Based Toei constantly improving on Toriyama's shitty comic book.
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>>178130580
>fucked Chichi
Dont tell me you think having sex with someone else actually requires a true bond? Its sex.
>gave chichi a kid
Yeah because Goku definitely intended to do that
>provided shit like firewood, food, etc for Chichi
Oh man I decided to share my food with someone who lives with me. I sure am a good husband. Chichi also pays for the food herself which is stated multiple times in the series.
>carries Gohan around when he was a kid and even gave him the 4 star ball
We only see Goku carry Gohan one time and that was when he showed up to Kame house when he was taking Gohan off the Nimbus. As for the Dragon Ball, he could have just put it on him due to Gohan having the same name as his grandfather. There is nothing showing he is a good father or husband. He sure is a great friends but he hasn't done anything only a husband or father could do.
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>>178130707
>daily
There's something called refrigerators and freezers you retard. Chichi's pays with her/her father money and they store a bunch of food in the house, Goku isn't necessary at all. Heck, the manga even mentions how they are running off money after years of using King Ox's fortune in the Boo arc, if it was as easy as hunting Goten or Gohan would supply the family just fine
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>>178130681
>Goku is literally terrified
>hurr he only sacrificed himself to fight the strong warriors
Stupid memecuck
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>>178130682
It was actually a draw, stop using words you don't understand spic.
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You do realize goku literally tells vegeta to ditch his pregnant wife to go train right?

WTF makes you think he was there for gohans birth?
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>>178130779
>Toriyama is the best
No shit Sherlock, are you retarded or just a shitposter?
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>>178130747
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>>178131001
>but he hasn't done anything only a husband or father could do.
Who has in this story? Tell me.
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>>178130707
>filler
So it means nothing then especially when Toriyama himself mentioned how Toei would change Goku up
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>>178127660
Your parents never said that to you, so sad.
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Gokufags will literally disagree with Akira Toriyama, The director and producer of DBS anime and toyotaro.

They are as retarded as their MC
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>>178130707
>I'm going by the anime
Opinion discarded.
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>>178131034
>WTF makes you think he was there for gohans birth?
The best part is that the manga OUTRIGHT states he wasn't there for Gohan's birth, he gave no fucks and ignored Chichi. He was probably training in the mountains or something to avoid how annoying Chichi was during the pregnancy
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>>178130817
Its stated in the Super manga that he wasn't around for Gohan's birth.
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>>178131132
>Super manga
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>>178129298
The poster looks cool don't see the complaints
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>>178130975
>Toriyama's CHADsen successor responsible for the canon manga
Truly BASED
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"No NO NO toriyama is wrong. Goku is a great father! He was always there and never put his kids in bad situations"
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>>178131021
goku was excited about the fight with raditz retard
goku being scared and excited at the same time is what happens everytime
>vegeta - I was scared to fight such power, but deep inside I felt a thrill
>learns from roshi that there is a higher ki on namek, gets scared, but then gets excited when he gets on kintoun
>tells trunks that he is scared about the androids but wants to know if he can beat them
raditz fight was no different
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Kefla sounds like she would teabag her opponent after a hard match
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>>178130917
Toriyama even stated that the anime changed Goku's character. If you are going to debate about how Goku really is then you obviously arent going to use the fucking dub which changed him ENTIRELY and the anime which also changed him a bit
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>>178131059
>Who has in this story?
Vegeta because unlike Goku he's not the guy that is so nice to others for free, it's literally undeniable he feels something special for his family, unlike Goku who is nice with Chichi, Goten and Gohan because he's nice to every friend he has
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>>178130933
Do you ever get tired of parading around your insecurity every thread?
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>>178130875
>THIS PROVES GOKU IS THE BEST FATHER EVER
Where are you getting best from? There is a wide difference between good and bad, but go ahead and make dumb hyperboles to try and make a dumb point.
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>>178131144
Toriyama is autistically involved with all gags and jokes and such. I guarantee you he wanted toyo to put in goku not being there for EITHER kids birth. Toei just did damage control as always which toriyama has complained about in the past
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>>178131163
>duuh, bejita sama, why do you care, it's not like you're the one giving birth
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>>178129895
Are black people mad Goku is a good dad? Hilarious
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>>178131181
>listening to some senile old fuck who forgets what he writes every five minutes
Look at this fan-drone cocksucker.
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Hows Vegeta as a father? good or bad
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>>178131184
>Vegeta
Wrong answer.

Vegeta almost got his INFANT child and baby's mother killed because he wanted to find Gero. It took Trunks being MURDERED for him to finally care and even THEN, he didn't hug Present Trunks until he was about to sacrifice himself as a Majin. Nothing shows fatherly love.
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>>178131059
Have I ever stated anyone in this series is a good parent. The only one you could argue is chichi as she shows concern EXPLICITLY for her children
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>>178130933
>frogpost
>not a brainlet
choose
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Goku showed more anger over both times fucking krillin died than he did when gohan died in the buu saga.

FOH with that good father shit
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>>178131144
>>178131212
Not only jokes, Toriyama makes Toyo change stuff if he thinks it's against the lore/world building/personality of the characters, like when he made him change Belmod and Marcarita relationship. Toriyama fully supports Goku ignoring Chichi's pregnancy
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>>178131249
So shut the fuck up, you have no point. Goku is as close to being a good as as Toriyama portrayed.
>wahhh he doesn't meet my standards
You lose.
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>>178131239
>I have no arguments so I have to resort to the Forgetful Tori meme
Sasuga
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>>178131247
Vegeta was still evil back then.
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>>178131212
You mean artistically?
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Except vegeta actually became a decent family, he started as a fucking villain. No shit he wasn;t always good.

Goku has been good his whole life and still ditches his pregnant wife for training
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>>178131265
>>178131059
Cope
also
>FOH
>vegetafags are niggers
Explains their hatred for fathers
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This kills the Gokufag
This is APPROVED by Toriyama
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>>178131247
>what is character progression
We got it, you are a literal retard.

>>178131206
>missing the point on purpose
Change "the best father ever" for "a good one" and you are still full of shit
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>>178131291
>>178131317
You missed the point. It took him YEARS for him to show even a HINT of "caring" for his family. Goku always has.

Vegeta is the worst father in this series.
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>"t t the creator of the shows words mean nothing, Only the anime filler and muh dub mean something"

The state of gokufags
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>>178131288
>if I say I win it becomes true
Pathetic. I accept your concession. Goku was sacrificing himself so Raditz wouldn't fucking murder all of his friends. The entire reason he and Piccolo were there was to save Gohan. Goku was about to get up and attempt to fight Raditz alone with his ribs all fucked up from the knee before Piccolo even offered an alliance. Sure he was enjoying the thrill of the fight against someone so strong, but his main purpose for going after Raditz was to rescue Gohan. If you deny this you're a fucking brainlet too stupid to follow a goddamn children's comic book.
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>>178131316
based CHADgeta
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>>178131339
>>178131059
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>>178131265
That only proves Goku sees Krillin as his son too. Based Chadku is everyone's father
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>>178130157
She married to Trunks.
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>>178131001
Yes, Goku just gave Gohan the 4 star ball with little reason in mind besides same name. The ball that represents his grandpa to him, and one of his most treasured things in DB. Yea sure, he just gives it away to whatever.
>Dont tell me you think having sex with someone else actually requires a true bond? Its sex.
Sure, just like he fucked all his friends right? The guy who wasn't anything but a pervert just fucked some random girl he happened to know.
>Yeah because Goku definitely intended to do that
Doesn't matter if he intended or not, not every kid is intended. He still stuck around and helped raise the kid and stuck with Chi-Chi while alive. If they were just good friends, he would just dip and leave besides the occasional visit.
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>>178131334
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>>178131278
>yo...you have no point. Y..You lose
Imagine being this distraught. We are talking about how Goku has never shown any signs of being a good parent. We aren't fucking comparing him to other characters
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>>178131316
/thread

it's also in the anime, which means it was in the outline.
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>>178131316
oh no no no

"toriyama was probably busy with the movie" no way he approved this

>>178131334
and yet vegeta cares enough to be there for his wife now while goku tells him to ditch her. Its called character development, maybe tardku should try it someday
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>>178131179
someone explain this meme to me
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>tfw dont participate in pathetic goku vs vegeta war since everyone already knows gohan is the best
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Z/Kai babies who jerk off to faulconer and have never read the manga thing goku is a great father and husband
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>>178131385
>and yet vegeta cares enough to be there for his wife now
Yup. Now, after how many years?
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>>178131044
Yea sure, that was his only motivation. Just like when Krillen died, his only motivation was to fight the thing who did just for the sake of the fight.
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>>178131418
>Spichan the Jobber
>Best at anything but being irrelevant
Kek
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>>178131364
Stop using the 4 star ball as an excuse that he's a good parent. He gave Uub the fucking Kinto Un so does that mean he is a great father to Uub?
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>>178131334
>it took him years for him to care about his family
So? He does. Period.

>Goku always has
Goku always has the same friendly character with everyone, which means being friendly with Gohan isn't acting like a father you retard.
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>>178131449
B-but anon, characters can't have more than one motivation, that's too complex and hurts my brain because I am a literal retard that can't comprehend simple mediums whose target audience consists of pre-teens and teenagers
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I thought this was pure kino, but I see Geekdom and his fag followers shitting on it. Why?
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>>178131471
He also just abandoned the Nyoibo at the lookout which is something that Grandpa Gohan owned as well.
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>>178131478
>He does
And Goku always has.

Vegeta took years. He's shit as a father.
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>>178131061
>>178131116
I'm not gonna argue manga, all I care about is anime then. You can hold your head high like your superior all you want because muh manga. I guess it's two different characters then, but anime Goku (the one legit everyone fucking refers to when talking about Goku because it's the one they have mostly experienced) was fine as a parent and husband.
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>>178131435
Goku was never there for his wife you retard

He stayed on fucking yardrat for a year instead of going home

Choose to stay dead after cell games because "muh training"

Left wife at eoz to train poo in the loo

Vegeta actually grew up. Goku is the same retard he always was
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>>178128681
Sucking Broly's dick, but you can't see him.
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>>178131529
>all I care about is anime
Opinion discarded.
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>>178131529
Congrats on being a retard who uses non canon shit to argue the show.

Its not our fault you retards don't read the actual source material.

Bet you also think goku is the hope of the universe huh
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>>178131544
>Goku was never there for his wife
>pre-saiyan arc
>during the break time before the cell arc
>everything after boo
HAHAHA
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>>178131529
We are all talking about manga Goku retard. Thats why people are throwing around manga panels because we all know anime Goku means fuck all
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>>178131529
>everyone is an anime-only retard like me
Imagine being this delusioal
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>>178131175
You can be excited for a fight, while still having another reason, like saving you child son, to go do it. If it was all about the fight, why would he sacrifice himself? Goku has been shown to be a very prideful fighter, not one that would a last ditch move to win like that unless he had other reason to.
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>>178131529
I bet you're a Funifag dubtard Americuck.
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goku is only being made into a good father in the toei filler cuz toei didn't want to show a cunt like goku is in a cartoon for children, that's all
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>>178131515
So why wasn't goku there for gohans birth?

If he was always so great, where was he then?
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>>178131317
>I was only pretending to be retarded
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>>178131573
wasn't there for gohans birth

10 days oooooooh big deal

training

Love how you left out EoZ where he ditches her for poo in the loo
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>>178131624
No proof that the line came from Toriyama.

Not canon.
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>>178131582
we're discussing whether goku sees his family as a family or as companions like toriyama says, and goku saves anyone from direct danger, it doesn't make him a father
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>>178131435
>Vegeta
>goes from being grumpy and giving no fucks about his family to being grumpy and loving his family in a special way (as a FAMILY)

>Goku
>always nice guy that never loved his family in a special way (only cares about his family as friends)

>>178131515
See above. Goku never ever had a special feeling for his family so never had that love for them, unlike Vegeta. Your argument is that Vegeta is a grumpy guy and Goku is a nice guy, that has nothing to do with what they feel.

And Vegeta being a shit father means nothing when Goku is worse, you are just shitting on the character you are trying to defend
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Why do Toyotaro's fight sequences look so awkward?
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>>178131672
he oversees every piece of dialogue in the manga so yeah its from him. Toei damage control as always doesn't mean he didn't write it.
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>>178131431
>muh manga
Well I guess if it helps you feel superior to other anons on a stupid basket weaving image board.
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>>178131701
Show proof that THAT line came from him, otherwise not canon. lmao
>>178131694
Vegeta doesn't show care beyond what a friend would do for another friend.
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Goku not kissing chichi and not being there for either of his kids birth are straight from toriyama.

The anime tries to be vague for damage control but thats what they always do
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>>178131745
>for either of his kids birth are straight from toriyama
Wrong. Show proof.
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>>178131512
Literally who?
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>>178131719
"muh funimation"

Nobody cares about superman goku anon

>>178131720
"not canon cause i don't like it"
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>>178131624
>wasnt there for Gohan's birth
>bailed and stood on yardrat instead of coming home right away
>doesn't even check up on his family during the 7 years he was dead
>spends most of his time in Super away from home
>questions why Vegeta wants to stick around for his daughter's birth
>nonchalantly talks about how he wasnt there for Goten's birth
>never kissed his wife
>bails yet again to train Uub(granted Neko Majin shows Goku's family moved with him)
Hmmmm
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>>178131698
The only panel that looks bad in your pic is Vegeta's kicks on Toppo
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>178125615
So yeah, shitflinging for the sake of it.
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>>178131782
It's not canon because you don't have any proof that it came from Toriyama.

You lose.
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>>178131698
Toyotaro isn't capable enough and its rare he produces something of quality
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>>178131272
He was probably against Marcarita calling El Grande Padre "papa". Fuck that, btw. That would have been cute as fuck.
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Guy from a previous thead said: Just want to ask one simple question. With all the Dragonball stuff that is happening simultaneously and still going strong like the anime, manga, the Heroes thing, Dokkan, Xenoverse, FighterZ whether you like them or hate them are mostly attracting tons of fans in, not to mention the upcoming movie does being canon even matter more? Or has this always been a shit-flinging contest purely just for the sake of shit-flinging?
Pretty much the latter, otherwise what else is there to talk about?
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>>178131561
>>178131571
>>178131590
muh way is the only way to enjoy stuff!
>>178131579
Sure thing buddy. I'm sure a majority of people outside of Japan have read the DB series manga.
>>178131578
Well fine then, I'm done here. I can't argue what I haven't read.
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>>178131720
>"Vegeta doesn't show care beyond what a friend would do for another friend"
>implying Vegeta would EVER treat anyone as he treats Trunks and Bulma when he's being emotional moments
HAHAHAHAHAHA jesus christ you are retard but you are funny

>>178131855
The big change was that Marcarita was Belmod's Harley, but Tori said no angel would ever fall in love for a GoD
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>>178131910
Not an argument. Vegeta doesn't show care beyond what a friend would do.
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>>178131698
Why do toeishills baits look so awkward?
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>>178131891
>I'm sure a majority of people outside of Japan have read the DB series manga.
They have, because they actually want to digest the source material, not watch a bastardized dubbed version, unlike you, you literal fat American brainlet.
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>>178131959
not an argument
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>>178131720
>proof that line came from him
it's both in the manga and the anime, meaning it was on the outline, and considering how anal Toriyama is about character relationships, it means it's canon
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>>178131971
So no proof? Nice one.
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>>178131971
Ignore him, he's just shitposting.
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>>178132011
Not an argument.
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>>178131910
>but Tori said no angel would ever fall in love for a GoD

Right, because "an angel wouldn't be this fond of their God of Destruction!", but in spite of that, in the anime we can see that, at least Cus, is fond of her Hakaishin, and even laments the loss.
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>>178131961
>I read panels of fights instead of watching them
>this means I'm smarter and better
Sure thing Mr.Super Duper Smarty Pants.
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>>178131998
>no proof even though it's in both versions
so are you going to tell us that Jiren is not the strongest man in the universe according to Toriyama since he fucking was called that in both anime/manga, but we have no statement from him?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ukA69sE06g
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>Toyotaro has bad art
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>>178132040
Show me an interview, or Toyotaro confirming that it came from Toriyama. Nothing? You lose.
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>>178132025
Holy fuck, pic related is actually real.
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>>178132024
>using the anime
Anon why. You do know Toriyama doesn’t write the anime right? Toei has a different writer every episode. Some of them do what they want while few actually follow shit Toriyama set up
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>>178132068
I don't know if you're autistic, stupid or trolling, I'm going to go with the last one for both our sakes
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>>178132025
>hurr da anime is better cuz da lines move
Sorry you're a fucking autist with the attention span of a goldfish who finds it difficult to focus on words for more than five seconds. The rest of the world isn't so brain dead.
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>>178129690
He's going to start working hard to help his weight issue, which he is very sensitive about
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>>178132050
Stop shilling your stupid spic channel here, cuck.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lStUQJblvuk

This thread needs to be saved.
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>>178132073
Except I never said one was better than the other. And you started with insults, so don't go there either Mr.Enlightened.
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>dude Toriyama said goku is a bad father
Bad father =/= doesn't love his kids and wife

Vegeta is far worse, he outright doesn't love them at first and even once he mellows up he still gives them the "tough love treatment".
Who the fuck cares if Goku wasn't there for Gohan's birth, when it counted and when there was a need he was there for his children.
Fucking TFS shitters need to kill themselves.
>muh super
super is noncanon
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>>178132116
Still nothing? I win. You lose. :]
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piece of shit
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>>178132145
>brain dead retard literally admits that he can't sit still long enough to read a comic book
>gets called out on being a dumbass
>y-you s-s-started it!
Just get out, no one wants you here. In fact, just die. No one wants you alive either.
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>>178131872
Yeah, pretty much the sentiments here. I so don't care about the canon war I just want to watch and/or read the series and discuss it without some asshole shouting 'canon/not canon' in every thread. It's not been this bad before.
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>>178132116
If you couldn't immediately tell he was shitposting you're as retarded as he is
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>>178132025
Well considering the anime is known for changing up certain characters like Goku and adding in filler scenes that aren't a part of the original manga plus the fact that the original dub would change the scripts almost entirely, yes reading the manga would make you more knowledgeable about the subject you are discussing. Otherwise you just look stupid talking about something that isn't a part of the main story
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Does Toyotaro have a SINGLE original idea? The hack even copied from his own Heroes manga
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>>178132186
I can read manga just fine. I prefer watching it though if I can. Sure though, take superiority in reading panels.
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>>178132194
t. Toeishill pretending not to care so he doesn't have to face being BTFO
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>>178131935
>Vegeta would remember when a friend was a baby, go full emotional, hug him and blow himself up for him
>>Vegeta would comfort physically some friend that is crying and worried about him
>Vegeta would go ahead marry some friend
>Vegeta would refuse to train to assist to the birth of some friend's son
Poor retard
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>>178132241
>I prefer watching a bastardized and often entirely-changed version of the story and then trying to talk about the actual story with people who actually know what the fuck they're talking about, then I throw a pissbaby tantrum when they tell me to fuck off
Kill yourself.
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>>178132248
Hey asshole, I'm not that anon. That was my first post and I have not finished all the episodes of Super yet.
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>>178132239
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>>178132160
>Fucking TFS shitters need to kill themselves.

Just another case of e-celeb doing nothing but damage to the fandom. TFS, Cuckdom101, etc. The fandom would be a lot better if these people were not around, desu.
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>>178132241
How about this: If you aren't going to read the actual source material, don't try to talk about the source material, you fucking retard.
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>>178132290
When did I tell you to fuck off? Are you okay anon? You're making a lot of things up right now.
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>>178132284
>having to post Super shit because he got BTFO when it came to the original canon manga
LMAO
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>>178132320
>Geekdom, one of the most knowledge sources of DBZ info and lore, is hated in these threads
just goes to show how sad you all are
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STOP
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>>178132335
See >>178132321 and then kill yourself, fatass.
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>>178132354
Fuck off you ugly dyke
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>>178132320
TFS by themselves aren't that bad. Can even get a chuckle every now and then. The problem is their fanboys parroting their every lines as if their words are the law.
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kek this thread, I remember the outrage when toriyama said in interviews about family = companions and that goku is completely unqualified to be a father
>TFW mangachad and always knew
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>>178132335
>reading comprehension this bad
Please try again.
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>>178132343
>Vegeta sacrifice and moment with Trunks is from Super
Stop smoking, anon
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>>178132383
Fellow MangaGOD here, it's always funny when secondary shitheels try to come in here talking shit like their opinions are worth something.
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>>178132401
>Goku sacrifice
Owned.
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>>178132321
Which I have stopped discussing that. I'm sorry I didn't consider that autistic manga fags would try and dominate a conversation and feel superiority in that, but I guess I forgot when you have little in life, you need every little victory you can get.
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>>178132434
>he's projecting now
Boy, you're really angry. Sorry nobody wants to hear some secondary anime-only American dubcuck speak about things of which he knows absolutely nothing.
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>>178132383
Toriyama doesn't even know his own work. Why should I care what he thinks about Dragon Ball anyway.
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>>178132362
I'm just waiting for evidence I told you to fuck off or anything else you've said I said in your autistic rage.
>>178132398
Still never said that, but okay. I can read that you want me gone, but still ignore it. Doesn't mean I have bad reading comprehension.
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>>178132434
>I didn't consider that people who are actually familiar with the source material would call me out on my bullshit
That's on you for being a fucking retard, then.
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>>178132433
>implying Goku personality = Vegeta personality
>also ignoring Vegeta crying, remembering when Trunks was a baby and hugging him
Not tired of being btfo yet?
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>>178132521
>Vegeta crying
Who could forget?

Also, looks I proved you wrong.
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>>178132500
Nowhere in that post did I mention YOU being the one to say fuck off, you fat ESL spic. Read it again, and really concentrate this time. I know your pitiful, underdeveloped brain is probably hurting.
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>>178132495
>why should I care what the creator of the work says about it
Toriyama's opinion>some ignorant dog on 4chan.
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>>178132382
That`s every Youtube/Twitch e-celeb nowadays, the internet base is mostly neglected kids who need surrogate friends/parents to latch onto. You have to be so careful about who you show positive attention to online these days because it's so easy to end up with some poor kid being raised on technology to suddenly make their entire life about you.
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>>178132354
Characterfags should be banned
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>>178132382
this tbqh, their dub is better and more hopeful to the source material than the original mutt dub
Fuck their fanboys though. Most of them haven't even watched the original show.
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>>178132540
This level of shitpost is too much for me.
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>>178132598
>TFS
>dub
Actually kill yourself.
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>>178132616
>Your arguments are too much for me Superior-kun, please accept my concession
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does anyone have that one meme where buu makes fun of shin and then shin goes to 4chan complaining about it
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>>178132546
Yes you did actually, or it was hinted at with me being the only mention.
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>>178132558

Mmm... No? He doesn't remember his own work at all; the story, the characters, the themes, etc. He is, quite literally, and ignorant about all these things.
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>>178132616
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>>178132667
Fuck off waifufags
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>>178132678
I bet that retard thinks Minus is the best thing to come from Toriyama since he made it
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>>178132625
To be fair, LK did put on a pretty convincing Frieza.
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>>178132667
Don't worry, I won't.
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>>178132678
>Mmm... No?
It doesn't matter if you don't agree. It's an objective fact. Toriyama's opinions on the franchise>yours. Die mad about it, mongrel.
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>>178132676
>I prefer watching a bastardized and often entirely-changed version of the story and then trying to talk about the actual story with people who actually know what the fuck they're talking about, then I throw a pissbaby tantrum when they tell me to fuck off
This is what was said, which was explicitly stating that other anons were telling YOU to fuck off. No wonder you prefer the dubbed anime. You're too fucking stupid to comprehend basic words.
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>>178132467
>if I say projection, I automatically win!
>>178132514
Yea it is. I didn't know the manga and anime were that different, so it was my bad to figure so. Nothing wrong with the anime just because it isn't 1-1 with the source, and I never criticized the source either.
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>>178127773
Goku's a retard, a happy go lucky retard, he does what he does because Chi Chi tells him to. He is a Saiyan first, a retard one, and a person with social life after.
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>>178132750
spic
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>>178132750
fuck you sound like a beta, kys
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>>178132625
they dropped the abridged shit a long time ago man, now they're just trying to one-up toriyama. It's fucking embarrassing honestly and when they try it feels forced as fuck, see android's 16 "backstory" and gohan's characterization in ep. 60 part 1.
The worst thing is though when their retarded fanboys actually claim that its better than the original show, only because it got more quips. Makes sense, given how successful marvel films are.
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>>178132697
Minus is canon. Die mad about it.
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>>178132784
Marvel films are objectively some of the best films ever made, Black Panther is unironically a cinematic masterpiece.
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>>178132784
Marvel is 1000x better than shitper
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>>178132733
Ok I did misread that part. My bad.
>>178132766
Sure thing
>>178132779
Sure thing
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>>178132819
lol
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>>178132874
Concession accepted.
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>>178132875
Yes, can I help you?
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>>178132784
Yeah, it was one reason why I actually liked LK's Frieza. He sounded quite natural and can even do threatening Frieza quite well but you could also tell he was taking the piss out of the character, and the whole Namek arc in general. Now it's just them trying to put on a legit dub and it is so not working.
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>>178132974
>LittleCuckriboh
>Anything but edgy shit for tweens
lol
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To this day, I still don't understand how you tards take a gag manga for kids and teenagers so seriously
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>>178133034
t. Toeipoodle
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>>178132974
>it is so not working.
Doesn't have to, they already made bank. Early Abridged is rapid-fire jokes, often of the homophobic or meme variety, latter Abridged is an honest tribute to the series once it became a passion project instead of a cash cow.
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REV UP THOSE 'FUCK YOU I LIKED IT'S
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>>178133067
>latter Abridged is an honest tribute to the series once it became a passion project instead of a cash cow.
Imagine being this much of a pathetic Reddit shill.
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>>178133034
t. TFStard
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>>178133026
Hell his early Yugi and Kaiba parodies were amusing before he caught the 'popular' bug.
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>>178133207
It's amazing the level of doublethink contrarians are capable of.
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>>178133247
Nobody was talking to you or gives a shit what you have to say you fat greasy NEETcuck spic.
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>>178133247
I suppose.
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>>178133247
This post doesn't really have any meaning though. Are we just wrapping up till the thread is archived?
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>>178133342
Maybe.
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>>178129194
Dragon Ball was made in a golden age of Japanese animation. While Japan isn't in the absolute state of western animation, the talent pool still has shrunk a lot.
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>/a/ still bitching on /qa/ to get us banned from here for talking about DB
why the fuck are they being so gay about this shounen and DB stuff was never banned no matter how much people shat on nardo
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>>178133507
Because these threads are cancerous cesspools. There's no discussion here, it's just autistic shitposting.
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>>178132886
You maybe won't see this as this thread has hit bump limit, and you probably won't really accept it because this is 4chan, but I actually do want to apologize for that. I mis-read and acted like a dumbass after. I still don't consider one of anime or manga better, though I know manga is from Toriyama. I'll just make sure not to discuss in these threads anymore, which I rarely go in anyways because they are all about DBS now and I have no interest in watching or reading that.
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>>178133603
i'm not even the guy you were arguing with and i feel bad
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>>178133603
>hich I rarely go in anyways because they are all about DBS now and I have no interest in watching or reading that.
Good choice, you're dodging a bullet
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>>178133651
More like guy(s) unless they were same fagging.
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>>178130960
That's like saying Goku tied Cell, retard.
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>>178133913
>buttblasted Toei TFS shill
Kek





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