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So I'm watching the Endless Eight for the first time (slowpoke, I know) and I'm on the last episode, having started just earlier today. Why did the producers think this was a good idea?
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because you touch yourself at night
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>>180479024
Why is your image artifacting like this?
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Because they thought the elevens would buy it anyways, which they did. I guess to save money, but Kyoani animated them all separately anyway so they only saved on concept work and storyboarding and stuff, not animation.
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>>180479083
I want to save on file space.
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>>180479024
You need to watch it one episode per week to understand that.
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I think that disappearance was meant to be in s2 but it got pulled at the last minute to to be made into a movie. So I'm guessing it was meant to take up 5-6 episodes and they had nothing else to run at that time.
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It illustrates the endless recursion, doesn't it?
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In any case it was a riot to be on /a/ when this was airing. Oh boy.
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Because they didn't listen to me.
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>>180479083
Maybe his hard drive hurts.
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So I'm watching the Endless Eight for the first time (slowpoke, I know) and I'm on the last episode, having started just earlier today. Why did the producers think this was a good idea?
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Kyon-kun denwa!
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>>180479221
Hurts from what?
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It's one of those mysteries for the ages OP. If you suspected "this must have been the stupidest most rage enducing shit ever while airing week to week", yes, you are right.

Perhaps one of the craziest / most rage-filled times I've ever seen on /a/. There were nips smashing their Haruhi merchandise in protest on 2ch too.

I'm kind of surprised people don't still hate KyoAni for this and think Disappearance atoned for it all. To me, no it didn't, because they are not just reruns, they actually went and re-animated each one of the E8s separately, just a huge waste of resources and time better spent advancing through the material. E8 should have been 2-3, maybe 4 eps absolute max.
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>>135561352
Why so slow? Are you new to Animax?
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>>135562106
also typo
>rage inducing
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Boy loves girl. Telling her that, she asks what about her he loves. Unable to find a specific answer, he tells her that he doesn't know. Girl leans in, tells him to find out and kisses him.

Boy wakes up immediately in his bed. Little has changed except that the girl is not on his phone contacts. He goes to school like normal and sees her. Finds out she doesn't recognize him and eventually determines that this is a different universe than the one his girl was in.

Over four episodes, he wins her love back and the same question scenario arises. This time, he's able to tell her a little more about what it is he loves about her. Unsatisfied, the girl says the same thing, kisses him, and it starts over. It won't be endless 8 style where they do the same thing again and again, but this happens once more before the season finale when the time rewind stops.
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>>135562106
I watched it late. I knew what was coming and I just skipped 6 episodes. It should have been 3 episodes at most with a couple larger differences in the timelines.
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I unironically enjoyed endless 8, and I'm not even a contrarian. I just liked it, watched everything in one evening actually.
Am I literally the only one on /a/? It seems like everyone here agrees that E8 was shit.
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>>135562144
And last summary. /a/ was very much under stockholm syndrome by this point and was glad for it to be over.

If you think the way people talked back then / the way this image was assembled looks kind of cancerous, that's because old /a/ was actually like that.
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who watches a whole series in a day
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To this day I still think that Endless Eight is the only interesting thing that's been done with the medium.
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>>180479417
Yep, it's pretty fun thing when you don't have to wait months for it to end.
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>>135561352
Because it could be done really well. By repeating the same series of events eight times, the line between fiction and reality is blurred. Instead of being just an observer of the show, the viewer is also stuck in an endless recursion of time. It creates genuine empathy for the characters. We feel the same frustration Kyon feels when he fails to end the time loop so many times, and this just makes it that much more powerful and triumphant when he finally succeeds.

The repeating of scenes also makes you notice a lot more over the course of E8. There's a ton of nuance in the way characters interact in the arc that's never really shown in the spotlight, it's up to the viewer to catch onto it. From an analytical perspective, they picked the perfect episode to repeat: there's a lot to contemplate or examine in the episode because there's so much that's just left open or only hinted at, such as Koizumi's jealousy of Kyon, or more often, Yuki's suffering.

As for why KyoAni did it, one theory is that it was a sort of "tryout" for who would direct Disappearance: each episode was directed in a different way. This also made the whole arc a lot more interesting, with the animators and directors experimenting with various shots, motifs, lighting and shading in their episodes. The visual direction was superb if only for this reason.
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>>180479384
FINDS A WAY
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>>135562289
>This also made the whole arc a lot more interesting
Different clothes and angles don't make it interesting.
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>>117325364
>why did the producers think this was a good idea?
Its been almost half a decade and people are still mad about it. At the time I thought it was dumb but people are still posting about it today it had its intended effect
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>>180479459
The only interesting thing about it is how it deviates from the norm.
The content itself is in no way interesting.
As an art project or niche student animation, it would have been fine. As anime meant to entertain, it was a massive fucking failure.
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>>180479385

In the original novel they just did it all in one go, no repeats... I wish they did that in the show.
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>>180479384
finds a way
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>>180479560
But where's the fun in that?
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>>180479086
Many of the shots are taken from different angles, still requiring a new although easy to make storyboard, and almost all of the lines are recorded differently
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>>180479484
kojima pls
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>>180479024
>Why did the producers think this was a good idea?
They wanted the audience to feel Yuki's pain.
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>>180479276
What is she drinking?
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>>180479521
>almost half a decade
Because a decade is 18
years long, right?

>>180479594
>different clothes and angles

But that's wrong, you fucking retard
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>>135562696

They had plenty of stories out that could have been adapted.

Snow Mountain Syndrome
Love at First Sight
Where did the Cat go
The Melancholy of Mikuru Asahina
Or even a new original story like Someday in the Rain

All would have been better than what was basically the same episode 7 times too many.

They had a lot to fill 8 episodes with, don't pretend otherwise.
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>>180479024
They correctly believed their show's viewers were mentally retarded.
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>>180479684
Jesus christ you really don't understand what I'm saying.
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>>180479745
Haha, sorry dude, I was just being silly
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>>180479745
Well than elaborate.
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According to the writers, early on they wanted to make Disappearance a movie. The re-airing required booking two full cours of TV time to work, but Bamboo Leaf and Sighs weren't enough to take up an entire cours by themselves. So they came up with Endless Eight as a way to burn through the rest of the episodes in style.
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>>180479131
But each episode of endless eight was redone entirely from scratch, up to storyboards.
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>>180479083
>>180479221
I just save low quality stuff so I can save storage space.
It's basically the same picture anyway. Not too much different.
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From what?
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>>180479824
Are you, by any chance, Bill "640k ought to be enough for anybody" Gates?
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I think the problem is on your end buddy.
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>>180479882
K-On? More like K-No. Shit killed an entire, thriving studio.
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>>180479441
>not marathoning
Cute
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So I'm watching the Endless Eight for the first time (slowpoke, I know) and I'm on the last episode, having started just earlier today. Why did the producers think this was a good idea?
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>>180479964
I thought this looked familiar

http://4chandata.org/a/So-I-m-watching-the-Endless-Eight-for-the-first-time-slowpoke-I-know-and-I-m-on-the-last-episode-having-started-just-earlier-today-a251649
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>Didn't have to live through Endless Eight
>Complains about Endless Eight anyways
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Is
>I don't care about the animation
Even really worth humoring with an argument when discussing an animation studio? You know you actually CAN be so stupid you're not even worth the effort.
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>>180479459
I can respect what Kyoani did with it, but it was still an absolutely miserable fucking watch that I will never do again.
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>>180480186
In any case it was a riot to be on /a/ when this was airing. Oh boy.
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Newfags don't realize that Haruhi actually kicked off some of the tropes we see in anime today. What is considered boring and clichéd now was at the time seen as unique and creative, which is a major contributing factor to why it got so big.
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It's just lazy. A standard slice of life building off things like Genshiken or Azumanga while having a sci-fi twist to try and be unique but ends up doing very little with it (barely less than half of the episodes actually prominently feature some supernatural element: 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 23, 24 | E8 doesn't count since like 98% of the episode is just normal activities)
What's good is stuff that does well with its premise and its characters and doesn't cheap out, things like Monogatari, Steins;Gate, HxH, etc.
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It illustrates the endless recursion, doesn't it?
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>>180479024
>why did the producers think this was a good idea?
Its been almost half a decade and people are still mad about it. At the time I thought it was dumb but people are still posting about it today it had its intended effect
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>>180479024
>>180479288
The reason can gleaned pretty easily IMO.
>Kadokawa+KyoAni decide to adapt the remaining Haruhi material up to Disappearance into an anime season
>They buy time slots for the episodes
>For some reason one or both of them (likely Kadokawa) decide that Disappearance would be better adapted into a movie
>Suddenly have 5-7 spare timeslots and animators with nothing to do
>Can't adapt the future material without spoiling disappearance
>Make the most of a bad situation
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>>180480385
>almost half a decade
Because a decade is 24
years long, right?
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>>180480425
Many of the shots are taken from different angles, still requiring a new although easy to make storyboard, and almost all of the lines are recorded differently
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>>180479285
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>>180480461
I'm not saying they didn't do those things, I'm saying why they did it.
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>>180479024
Are you new to anime?
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>>180480425
You aren't thinking like a producer if you believe E8 was some kind of last minute thing.

Haruhi was lightning in a bottle, and they knew it would blow up again as soon as the first new episode aired.
Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody and Sigh were enough to carry a season, such was the hype. Why give away Disappearance for free, when you could shitpost your way through the rest of the TV anime and then charge a ticket to see it?
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>>180480516
>different clothes and angles

But that's wrong, you fucking retard
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>>180479083

All images were like that in the prehistoric days of 2009. Videos as well.
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>>180480604
YLYL, retarded opinion edition.
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>>180480604
There's a long time between buying timeslots and going into full production, especially if you want to save on money (since future timeslots are cheaper than ones close by) and if you're KyoAni. The initial announcement for Haruhi S2 referenced Disappearance, references that were absent in later promos.
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>>180480604
>>180480719
It also wouldn't be the only time KyoAni changed plans for a purchased timeslot. The Tamako Market timeslots were initially intended for K-On S3, for example
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>>180480771
S3 based on half a volume of HS and college?
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>>180480719
I know the initial idea was to make it all one season. I was trying to say that it's silly to think the production committee foisted the decision on KyoAni at the last minute. They would never have pulled such an audacious stunt without assurances that the creative team could pull it off.
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So I'm watching the Endless Eight for the first time (slowpoke, I know) and I'm on the last episode, having started just earlier today. Why did the producers think this was a good idea?
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>>180480856
>He[Moriwaki Kiyotaka, Senior Curator of the Kyoto Film Archive] tells me that at the earliest stage of the planning process, the slot that eventually became Tamako Market was originally intended for a possible K-On! season three. It was director Yamada Naoko (山田尚子) who pushed for a break from the highly successful franchise in favor of an original work
http://likeafishinwater.com/2014/11/27/animation-urbanism-and-tamako-market-a-discussion-with-moriwaki-kiyotaka/
It's not like they can't rely on making original material
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because you touch yourself at night
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>>180480987
Can KyoAni write originals?
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>>180481177
About 85% of K-On S2 was anime original
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>literally forcing the viewer to confront the situation that the characters are in

“kino”
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>>180479683
All of these are spoilers
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Kyoani draws the best waifus. Blessed be them.
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>>180483136
They're only drawing males now. At least the sales show there's no interest in them when even the QUALITY show of the season outsells it.
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Because they thought the elevens would buy it anyways, which they did. I guess to save money, but Kyoani animated them all separately anyway so they only saved on concept work and storyboarding and stuff, not animation.
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>>180479024
more like Endless Kino
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>>180484237
based and denwapilled
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>>180483136
Why do they draw waifus like this?
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this would've been a good thread if it wasn't just one samefag forcing muh board culture so hard
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>>180480277
No, Haruhi was a parody of the generic early 00s harem tropes. It got big because of the meme dance and visuals that were a fresh breath of air in the QUALITY-filled industry at the time.
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>>180479276
Why does she sit like that?
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>>180487449
I feel like Haruhi was also an important turning point in terms of legitimizing shows about young people that weren't traditional action or ecchi genre pieces. It didn't invent high school harem tropes, but it used them to tell a story without battles or H-scenes every episode, and that feels novel for the time.
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>>180488537
Maybe her denwa hurts.





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