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GUIDELINES:
Before you post a question, check the FAQ to see if it's already been answered.
Keep questions short for more answers.
If you're not going to like honest answers, don't ask your question.
And please no derailing arguments.

FAQ:
>Do girls/guys like <insert specific look>?
>What do girls/guys think about <an insecurity including, but not limited to: looks, physical traits, personality traits, virginity or otherwise lack of dating experience>
There is no one answer. Preferences differ, but complexes are always a turn-off.

>I'm shy and afraid of people/rejection. What do I do?
Get over it by practising and exposing yourself to it, little by little, step by step. There is no single magical moment that will instantly change you forever.

>I like someone. What do I do?
>How can I tell if someone likes me?
Ask them out.

>Where do I meet girls/guys?
Anywhere outside. Or online.

>Someone did something insignificant. What does it mean?
Nothing significant. You're overthinking it.

>XYZ happened. Interpret this for me please
We're not in their head, we don't know.

>This person did something that hurt my feelings. Why do guys/girls do this?
Because shit people are shit people. It's not a gendered thing.

>Someone has made it super clear they're no longer interested in me. Do I still have a chance?
No.

>Where do I go on a first (or subsequent) date?
Pick one or more of the following: coffee, lunch, dinner, drinks, ice cream, movies, zoo, aquarium, museum, art gallery, <activity in your city>.
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What should I think if a girl seems to mention me to her sister?

So apparently this girl has mentioned me to her older sister. (I ran into the sister and her boyfriend last night. I went to HS with both (but only knew the older sister in passing). She basically told me the "[Name] says hi", when I mentioned that I actually work with her younger sister)
Also, she'll make small jokes about what I'm doing, or what she's doing. And I have caught her looking towards me a few times. But then other days she'll be shy and quiet with a slight smile on her face...
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>>19771471
Male here. Is it attractive if I have a clean room and I'm super straight edge discipline-like?
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>>19771475
Not to me. I'd worry you're one of those types to get mad at people who occasionally eat pastries without a platter. It's good that you're an abstinent, though.
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>>19771472
Ask her out
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Should I get more tan?
Why are very old women attracted to me?
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>>19771475
Depends. CM Punk is straight edge. Are you like him?
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I paid for this girl on our first date. She expressed interest in hanging out again. I waited around to see if she would suggest plans herself, but she didn't, so I just asked her out again. Would it be unreasonable for me to expect her to pay her way, even if I initiated the plans?
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>>19771511
I'm a subhuman but I'm hoping to become super good to compensate
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>>19771512
It’s unreasonable to “expect.” If you invite her out she’ll probably assume it’s your treat. If you make a big deal about her paying for shit, then she’ll think you’re petty. You should always be able to treat a woman to a night out, if not, you’re too poor
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>>19771506
Probably not a bad idea.

I just havent spoken to her too much really, so IDK why she felt the need to mention me to the sister. (Though she knows that I was childhood friends with the sisters BF)
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>>19771512
Like someone else said, I wouldn't "expect" it, but if she offers you know you found a winner.
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Is it normal for women to want to make porn of themselves? Not just nudes, full-blown videos of us having sex. I'm not necessarily against the idea it's just odd to me that she would be the one that requested it.

She's going on a trip for job training at the end of the month for 4 days and I suspect they're to keep her and I company during that time.
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Now that my fatass is getting matches on Tinder what the fuck do I actually say?
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>>19771472
It means she's close to her sister and talks to her about stuff.
>>19771475
>Is it attractive if I have a clean room
Clean room is nice, it implies you would keep a clean home if we got together.
>super straight edge discipline-like
If you are a dom that would be very attractive
>>19771509
No, your skin looks fine the way it is. Use sunblock on your face to prevent wrinkles.
>>19771512
>Would it be unreasonable for me to expect her to pay her way, even if I initiated the plans?
It would if you didn't mention it in text, if you talk about it before and she agrees it should be fine, it would be an asshole move to wait until the check comes
>>19771533
>Is it normal for women to want to make porn of themselves?
Some people are into it, it would be strange if she wanted to post it on the internet imo
>>19771537
Something witty, icebreakers are good
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>>19771511
I am not a tough boi
it's too late for me to be physically strong like that anyway
I just want to overcome all my bad habits
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What’s with the whole friendzone thing, and why does every guy I try to be friends with act weird
Why can’t girls and guys be friends, i’m so tired of everything being sex related.
Life story
>talking to a guy
>going well, no undertones, just talking about things in life
>”so do you have a boyfriend”
>yes
>35% of the time “you led me on”
>35% of the time crazy nice guy response or cut off all together
>30% of the time “oh that’s cool” and continues conversation and have a good time

I do have guy friends and I've talked about it with them, I know the main points are every guy will think of you naked wether that'll go somewhere or not, you're pretty, or just guys dont want to be friends with girls because it’s seen as unmanly
I really enjoy talking with guys when they dont know im a girl because they're very rational and easy to talk to, but once they know I'm a girl it’s all irrational
Plz y.
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>>19771573
>It means she's close to her sister and talks to her about stuff.

True, but why mention me in particular?
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>>19771533

I'd love to video me and a guy I worked with going at it. Gonna go touch myself to that now.
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I work with a cutie grill, and normally her shift ends an hour or two before mine. Today she was working late and it ended up about two hours past her home time and half an hour past mine. I said I was ready to leave and asked if she needed anything from me. She said "anon, you're not leaving me, are you?" and I said I could stay if she wanted. She said this was just a joke. I stayed anyway for half an hour till she was done. She never asked me why I was staying, and we left together. Now, I'm sure she knows I didn't happen to finish up at exactly the same time as her. Do you think she really wanted me to stay and was telling the truth through a joke? We didn't do much work desu, we talked about everything from our problems to God and laughed a lot. I genuinely had a good time.
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>>19771583
Men are programmed to seek out sex. Some dudes are very short-sighted with it, and won’t seek out friendly relationships that don’t allow sex.
I spent nearly all of my school life making friends with girls, it honestly got me laid more than anything else. Emotional connection beats out physical attraction for a lot of women.
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>>19771590
Reading into it too much, I’m sure she appreciated the company though.
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>>19771583
>Why can’t girls and guys be friends
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_lh5fR4DMA

Don't play dumb. Women know fine rightly what's going on.
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>>19771573
>Something witty, icebreakers are good
>>19771537
Try
Ayy girl are you my appendix?
Because I don't know what you do, but this feeling in my stomach makes me want to take you out.
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>>19771583
>Why can’t girls and guys be friends
Well they can be friends, you said yourself that 30% are willing to be your friend. Idk, I feel like if they don't want to be your friend after your "rejection" then that's okay, you can't force people to do things they don't want to do.
>>19771584
>why mention me in particular?
Well she may like you, I don't know her personally so I can't give a definite answer either way. My sister always tells me about people she's working with, that's just my experience tho
>>19771590
That's a nice gesture
>>19771614
haha that's a good one
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>>19771607
Aye, thought so. tbf she's the reason I come early to work and I think she knows that. She stays late to talk to me too sometimes.
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>>19771626
>Well she may like you, I don't know her personally so I can't give a definite answer either way. My sister always tells me about people she's working with, that's just my experience tho

True. Could be liking me, could just be just telling her sis about random people she works with. She did know that I knew her older sister (and the BF) from highschool. Soooo yea.


But why the older sis saying "[Blank] says hi"
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Im a dude. A girl at my work goes out of her way to chat with me every day. I figured she was just friendly. I overheard a couple other coworkers talking about how she used to exclusively date other girls, but now she’s been married to a dude for a few years. Kind of unrelated to my story. Okay, none of my business.
A few days ago she asked if I wanted to get lunch, I agreed. On the way back she was telling me about how her and her husband have completely opposite schedules and she never sees anyone. Then she says we should hang out sometime.
Ever since then, she’s been lingering like a motherfucker when I’m around.
I always make a point to move on and go back to what I was doing when the conversation ends, but it always takes her fuckin forever to leave me alone. Like I have to walk off most of the time. Is she just wasting time or is she trying to get me to talk to her more? Either way it’s getting progressively more awkward
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>>19771628
That’s fine bro, it seems amicable for both of you, just keep after it if you’re interested in her. At my last job I had a friend there that I was excited to see every time I went in. We never hung out outside of work but we both talked a lot about how it was more bearable working together
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>>19771644
She is having an emotional affair with you.
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Girls, if you're flighty and a bit insecure, what's more likely to get you to hang out:
>me asking you to grab coffee while I'm in your town
>me asking you if you're free the day before I'm in your town
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>>19771653
She's breddy much my best friend anyway. Like a work wife.
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>>19771583
Man making friends with man
>man 1 meets man 2
>each man scans the other man for "is this guy interesting or cool"
>99.999% of the time, he is only interesting/cool enough to be basic acquaintances with
>very rarely both men both implicitly broadcast "nigga you're pretty fucking cool, let's be actual real friends" to each other
>neither man has anything to gain or to offer, other than friendship, so the friendship is guaranteed genuine if both parties decide to turn their keys and say "yes, sounds good"
>likely outcome A: friendship not established
>rare but possible outcome B: friendship established, guaranteed genuine

Man and woman making friends
>man meets woman
>woman evaluates man roughly similarly to how man evaluates man in the above scenario
>man evaluates woman FIRST AND FOREMOST AS A WOMAN
>man's unconscious brain: "a woman is always nice; women are 'rarer' than men, because men are a dime a dozen but getting a woman to be your friend is a little bit of an accomplishment because women are generally discerning and don't like being friends with gross men, therefore if i get her to be my friend i'm not gross; having a female friend is therefore a mild dopamine trip because it's a tiny achievement and status boost; women are sweeter and nicer to be around in general; women are soft and pleasant and make me feel good and remind me of sex and maternal cooing; if this woman just decided on a whim to let me touch or kiss or smell any part of her, it would pretty much make my day - that's how nice women are by default"
>man's semi-conscious brain: "i could possibly fuck her!"
>man's conscious brain: "no! i'm capable of being just friends with a woman. we're just friends! just friends, i swear! i promise! to myself, and to her!"
>man's conscious brain, finally, after ALL THE PRECEDING has already been done in a microsecond: *begins evaluating whether this woman actually has any personality/interesting traits*

That's why. (continued)
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>>19771664
Men generally aren't interested in women AS PEOPLE. This is because men are generally not interested in people - as evidenced by the "man making friends with a man" scenario, where only VERY rarely do men actually say "nigga wow you are actually pretty cool."

It's a little bit like everyone is going around grading each other, constantly. Men are very very harsh graders of other men, and only the highest grades are even worthy of consideration. A "passing," average grade, let's say a C, doesn't mean fuckall: it means you are inoffensive, but not even worth remembering aside from that. Maybe worth a nod in a hallway. A B-grade means you are above average, but there is no "click" aside from that. Even when men grade each other A-'s or A's, which is very very rare, it basically means nothing unless they are forced to spend time with each other, and then MAYBE they will become friends as a result of that forced contact. On top of all this, men usually already have several A+ friends that they have had for years. A man doesn't really need to be on the prowl for new friends; men don't enjoy ephemeral socializing, nor do they enjoy having many C's, B's, or even A-'s in their repertoire, because their lifelong A+ BFF is already waiting at home to play video games with them any time.

What does all this mean? Well, women already have a much harder time getting graded highly by men, because men and women have different interests. Women also don't have very deep hobbies, at least not in the autistic way men do. Yet somehow, men jump at the opportunity to have a female friend... Gee, I wonder why.

Hint: It's because they're women. To men, a woman is a woman, first and foremost. It's VERY difficult to get a man to see you as a person, asexually. If men all became asexual overinght, women would be fucking astounded at how invisible they suddenly felt - men would treat women like other men, i.e., as virtually nonexistent unless they get a 1/10000 grade of A+.
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>>19771655
I am a little abrasive, do I call her out or let it slide? How do I be nice about it?
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>>19771668
>>19771664
Also, keep in mind that the entire society is motivated to deny this, the whole culture is built around pretending it isn't the case. Men don't want to admit they're pathetic horndogs, and women don't want to think they only have male attention because they happen to have a female body.

But it's true in most cases. Men are going into friendships with you mainly with the ulterior motive, and the guaranteed "You Are Interesting, You Have An Interesting Personality" card that you get just for existing-while-female, and THEN they are evaluating you based on your personality.

Now, if you actually had the kind of personality they enjoy in a male friend (nearly impossibly unlikely), they would maybe come to value you as a real person - but the thing is, then they'd fall in love with you anyway.

So for the most part, you can choose between male friends seeing you as a walking vagina who is cool because vagina regardless of whether they'd find you cool if you were the same person but male, OR you male friends who actually find you cool but fall in love with you; and in both cases, most guys will probably fall in love with you eventually anyway, because nice sweet friendly women are like morphine to men. Female affection and intimacy are rare and confusing, as a male, and we are perpetually addicted to them.

Rare exceptions always exist. Your best bet is in men who are too alpha, or who are taken by another girl they are genuinely loyal to (and ideally who is much hotter/cooler than you). Then you will possibly become sexually inert, and they can actually see you as a person. But then they are unlikely to want to be close bros with you anyway desu. Women are not very interesting to men, as a general rule, as I said.
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>>19771671
Let it slide until she tries to make it physical, maybe. Do you enjoy her company? Or her attention? Basically she's getting from you which she isn't from her husband.
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Hey,

I asked a guy out for the weekend on Sunday(in text granted, because I have no chance to see him in person) and he immediately said yes, and said we'll talk about it, like when and where to meet.

He still hasn't messaged me and I'm kinda worried he doesn't really want to go out. I'm not big on messaging and neither is he, but when we do text he has always been the initiator and he expressed interest in us meeting but never outright set any plans hence why I ended up asking him out.

What do you think guys? Am I just overthinking and should wait more or does it seem like he's not that interested?
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>>19771644

She is trying to bond with you because who knows. And maybe wants your penis. Is it awkward because you're stupid and can't tell, or awkward because you don't want your penis in/on/around her?
Just fucking ask her what's going on.
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>>19771655
Please explain "emotional affair"

What is it and what does it feel like for the woman
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>>19771689
He may be different from me but I will tell you that every time I've had a nice thing like this with a girl like you, I've overthought the FUCK out of it and assumed the girl was impatiently tapping her foot and waiting to judge me for being too thirsty.

Unless he's some alpha supergod, I would err on the side of assuming he's just as afraid of being the thirsty one as you are, if not much more so.
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>>19771614
I already wrote the archaeologist line on my bio. It apparently worked this far. I guess I could try that. I think these are the only matches I'll probably get, especially considering one of them just seems to be a girl I knew from high school reconnecting, and the conversation already went dead, due to my own ineptitude.
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Is pale skin on a man generally seen as ugly?
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>>19771685
I don’t mind her company and she’s pleasant to be around. She is incredibly attractive and smart. I’ve met her husband before though and he seems to be a great guy, he’s definitely a catch by most women’s standards.
>>19771690
Well I’m married too and my penis is committed to my wife. It’s awkward I think because she’s a little awkward. She occasionally blurts out autistic shit but she’s attractive enough that I think most people find it endearing.
>>19771692
Curious about this, if she’s doing this to get at me or use me as a tool to make her husband jealous or some shit, I want no part of it. I don’t want to be the center of any rumors either, the last thing I need is uneccesary drama. I might ask her in a few minutes if there’s anything she needs to tell me, and why she’s been different lately
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>>19771731
Enjoy her company, but draw the line. Unless you want a wet dick.
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At the risk of acting like a retard: to that lifter femanon last thread
L O S A N G E L E S

Otherwise, what's a good way to eat enough when trying to bulk up? My skinny ass finds it hard to force myself to eat more for gains.
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>>19771754
Update: she said she’s been waiting for me to tell her when we’re hanging out. I told her let’s do Saturday if our spouses are free and she said hers isn’t, “so it might just be her if that’s ok”
So it looks like I have a 3rd wheel for dinner this weekend. This is just weird. Is she like starved for attention?
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>>19771707
I hope it's that... I'm just afraid that he said yes in the moment and now he has regrets and will let me down soon lol. Well I mean it would only be a rejection, but still.

He's quite good-looking to me, but he doesn't seem very confident, each time we met he would only stare at me, I was the one who approached him, so maybe you're right
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So I asked this girl out 5 months ago who is the sister in law of my best friend and the sister of my best friends wife. She said no but was polite about it so i thought there would just be an awkward period and then things would be like normal. She then blocked me on facebook, removed me from league of legends (a game we played together) and then left our discord (voice chat thing). I guess she needed space or some shit, I really have no idea. Ive ran this by multiple people but they have no clue either.

Now in the current time, we are in the same social sporting league. Right now it just seems like we ignore each other and just pretend the other person doesnt exist. It bothers me because it doesnt let me socialize the way I want to after the game. Like I feel like I cant be near her because i want to give her space and she might be thinking the same thing. Maybe she thinks I resent her or something?

What should I do? She hasnt talked to me since February. I think Im just gonna start things easy and say hello and stuff. And then after the game just light talking and try to get a read. I accept that she said no, its just that we literally know all the same people so its getting rather annoying having to play a social game of keep away everytime we are in the same place. Basically my main goal is to defuse the tension (that at least i feel, no idea what she thinks) and becoming friends again would be a bonus.

If you want anymore details feel free to ask.
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>>19771773
You don't know. Maybe her partner is chronically overworked, maybe she knows he resents tagging along to her friends/coworkers, maybe she thinks he'll realize she has a crush on you if he's present.

Just inform your wife if there's anything she doesn't know yet and team up to kill her with kindness. Drive home that you're committed and happily so.
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I met a girl at an event this on Tuesday and she’s very keen on me. She wanted to leave and asked if I wanted to grab a drink elsewhere. Several drinks later we get flirty and touchy feely. She gave me her number and said to call. She works from home most of the time, so idk if calling or texting is preferable for a date on Saturday.

Thoughts?
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When i first start talking to a girl im all badass. lighthearted and fun

but when it gets serious or she shows interest I become such a horny, dull, boring guy...

What do?
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>>19771783
People dislike awkwardness, chances are she'd also like for any semblance of weirdness to be gone. But I'd go in easy and just greet her. Keep at it even if she doesn't say anything back. You can talk if the opportunity naturally arises. After months of awkwardness I definitely wouldn't go out of your way trying to strike up conversation let alone be friends. If you can greet one another with friendliness you already know there's no hard feelings.
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>>19771798
Call
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>>19771798
call after 5pm
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>>19771783
I would act like nothing happened and treat her how you would anyone else. It’s not your fault that her rejecting you changed the way she socializes. I can appreciate the circumstantial consideration you’re showing her given your situation, but no one can be a complete social ogre about you saying hello and going on about your normal behavior with friends. I would give fewer shits about what she thinks.

>>19771786
Yeah, I really don’t know her situation, other than she’s trying to do something other than work. My wife said she was a huge bitch in college. But they’ve met and talked at parties and social gatherings and they act like girls typically do, giggling around and shit. I don’t think my wife is a huge fan of her, but she’s definitely softened over the years, and she tells me she’s probably just looking for a friend at work. That’s not right because she’s way more social than me at work and yet she always ends up at my fuckin office, standing in the doorway trying talk and gossip about the most random shit. It’s 3pm and I think she’s come by here for no reason 7 times today.
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toasting to find the persian grill living in the uk I want to talk to you some more desu
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How do you manage an anxious girlfriend?
She'll have seemingly random bouts of anxiety at work and home, often with no readily apparent cause. I usually ask if there's a cause and if there is one we talk and if not I try to distract her with an activity we can do together; I'll read to her, we'll draw or do some coloring books, write, etc. She seems to really appreciate all the support and I don't necessarily expect her to be cured by these mundane distractions I was just curious if I'm doing this right or if there's something more or better I could be doing to help?
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>>19771838
>I'll read to her
Wow
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>>19771730
yes
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>>19771730
Nobody likes pale skin. Which is very irritating as a Scotsmen who doesn't want skin cancer.
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>>19771829
Your wife doesn't have to be convinced in order to show up and show you're a good couple and you are not looking for attention elsewhere.

Treat her cordially but distantly at work. After she's stopped by three times it's 1000% fine to tell her it's too much and you can't focus on work, nothing personal.
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>>19771583
>i’m so tired of everything being sex related
amen anon, but as a guy, I have to admit it's harder to be friends with qt single grills than with grills who are taken
but that's just because I'm single and somewhat longing for a gf
so I think that also answers your question
*for the record I only told one of them that I liked her and that was that, it was clear she wasn't interested and we stayed friends
either way 1/3 isn't that bad desu

however, this is the bit that sounds rather bullshitty from you:
>I really enjoy talking with guys when they dont know im a girl
it feels like you're making the point that dudes shouldn't treat you differently than their dude friends just because you're a grill
but you seem to be treating guy friends differently just because they're guys
which is normal, guys and gals are different overall, but this goes both ways

and on an /adv/ice note, I dislike it when grills try too hard to be "one of the guys"
overall I do agree with your main point, it is horribly tiresome, but it also varies quite a bit depending on culture and setting, circumstances, etc
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>>19771849
i am familiar with this feel
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>>19771850
I texted my wife and told her she’s meeting us for dinner & that her husband has to work. Her response was “what a slut” lmao.
I’m glad I can talk to someone about this other than my wife because I think it’s awkward and not really something that needs to get brought up constantly with her. I might invite other friends because I think just us 3 would be a little dumb
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>>19771849
>Nobody likes pale skin
you've never been in asia have you
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>>19771840
This isn't that crazy; my wife and I are both avid readers and I have a good reading voice so she prefers when I read aloud.

Doing coloring books together on the other hand....
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>>19771590
You have found your soulmate.
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>>19771689
stop playing games, even with yourself
instead
just
message
him
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>>19771885
I agree with not playing games but I literally asked him out, the ball is in his court now whether he really wants to go out with me or not.

I mean I suppose I could message him but I don't want to get annoying
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Any girls on here like to lick their boyfriend's butts?
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>>19771914
>the ball is in his court now
not really. it's in both courts in my opinion
> I don't want to get annoying
look, thinking this way will cuck you out of any relation, no matter what. If you're annoying he'll let you know. Two messages definitely won't make him feel this way.
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>>19771922
dunno about them, but out of my 3 gfs, two liked it and one didn't mind
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>>19771933
did they make you wash it first?
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>>19771922
I've never tried it, suggested it to my ex but he was uncomfortable thinking of his ass as a sexual bodypart (even though he loved eating mine). I'd still like to try it if I come across someone who does like the idea.
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>>19771954
Now I'm really turned on!
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>why does every guy I try to be friends with act weird

Probably because you’re interacting with guys who can’t deal with being friends with girls? That or you’re overthinking things.

Personally, I’ve definitely had a number of close friendships with women through out the years. Hell, my best friend is a girl.

Can I say I’ve never thought about them naked? No, i also can’t say I’ve never through about what it would feel like to have boobs or the female orgasm.

Likewise I’ve directly had female friends ask me what it feels like to have my balls played with/show a keen fascination with how the penis works/ask if things float, etc

Curiosity over the opposite gender is pretty natural.

And just like those random times when I see a car carrier truck and wonder what it’s be to launch myself off one, or those times Im stuck in traffic and tempted to get out of my car and just walk away, just because I’m curious or I have an impulse, it doesn’t mean I *must* act on those or that it has any real influence on what I do.


>>19771838
>How do you manage an anxious girlfriend?
Sounds about what I do for mine. Really it’s just your presense and about being a calm and stable rock that’s there for her to buoy herself if she feels like she needs it. Any more and you’re smothering/coddling, and that’s not really what she needs.

>>19771689
>Am I just overthinking ?

More than likely. You already said you know hes not big on texting in the first place, and even if he’s not that interested *now*, well that’s kind of the point of dating isn’t it? To see if you have any potential and if can be built up.

And what’s the worst that happens? You Go out and waste a few hours? You’re overthinking things and probably getting ahead of yourself. The first dates always just about informally feeling things out and seeing if you can relax and hang out with one another in a one on one setting. Chill out and just try to enjoy the ride.
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>>19771994

Missed tag: >>19771583
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>>19771954
Would you make him wash it first?
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Both:

Linguistics or HR?
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>>19771528
she wanted to have excuse to talk to you anon
as in "oh, he knows my sister, that would be nice thing to touch to break the ice"
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getting flirty with that girl

i want to escalate physical contact a bit
would hugging as greeting be good thing to do? Or would it be too much.
How do you feel about hugs girls, lets assume you are into guy but its pretty early

Like a tight hug and id lift her up a bit like in my animes
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So I've given my boyfriend a couple blowjobs, but he never came from any of them. He said it was fine and that it is kind of hard to make him cum, but I still felt a little bad. Then last night I gave him one and he said he got multiple orgasms, but he still didn't cum. I read that guys can do that, but they have to practice it? And he said that was the first time ever that happened to him. I don't really know what sort of advice I'm looking for, but I guess I was mostly wondering if it sounds like he was lying to make me feel better.
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>>19772022
i also have a hard time cumming from bj, even if done more or less well, but never had an ideal bj done on me so i can't be sure
no bj is better than lazy bj, if you did that
also it's not just moving your head back and forward
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>>19772001
Whatever he'd have preferred, I'd have tried it without washing, love does things to you. He did it to me without washing up (directly beforehand) because it was his preference and it was fine.

I think for most people this would be a condition and I take it that if I had a bad experience I might rather be safe than sorry as well. But if you want to do anal play smelling shit is a risk, period. If someone comes straight out of the shower that doesn't mean their insides are squeaky clean, either. If you can't stomach that thought or would lose long term attraction if it happened just stay away to begin with.
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>>19772022
Blowjobs are just a bit shit for bringing men to orgasm, honestly.
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>>19771949
they never had to. I take care of such things on my own
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Why live if I will never breed
t.male
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>>19771471
If a girl agrees to come over, sit in bed with you, and just watch movies, should I try to make a move?

What would be the best way to start? Sit closer to her? Just put an arm around her?
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>>19772013
Sorry man, I get where you're coming from but all girls know the "let me hug you so I can touch you" hugs and it's not great. A hug as a greeting is an expression of closeness and affection. Unless a girl is explicitly a hugger and initiates, leave it for when you actually ARE close and affectionate.
The idea of escalating is also that you bring up the level gradually so you can gauge a response and see how far you can take it. Hugging a girl you usually don't touch leaves her no option to tone it down other than physically distancing herself, which is uncomfortable.

Also hi/bye hugs are generally pretty brief anyway. Even with my best male friends I've had for ten years we only do a full frontal crotch to crotch hug after an emotional moment or drinking or whatever, otherwise it's more of an upper body thing where you focus on the shoulders.
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>>19772036
>should i try to make a move
yes

>sit closer to her
yes

>put arm around her
yes

kiss her
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>>19772022
I cum from bjs very rarely. it mostly happensif I'm really turned on already, almost about to cum anyway
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>>19772028
You sound like a fun girl .You and I could have a lot of fun licking each others natural asses!
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>>19772013
desu you have to build up to a hug, you can just do it out of the blue
you can get physically close in some way or another (hand on shoulder, forearm, hair, w/e) and then after having a good time out you can go for a half hug with one arm and tuck her in
depending on how that goes (how she reacts) next time you can move forward
you do _not_ give her a lift on the first hug

basically if she hugs back properly you can move forward, if it's a touch and go short goodbye hug or anything less than that it probably ain't gonna work
you do know how to read basic body language and responses, right anon?
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>>19772045
Part of the appeal for me is that it's something you wouldn't dream about doing to just anyone, but becomes appealing when you are that crazy about someone. I get the sentiment, though, and from my sexual internet lurking female on male analingus seems to inch towards being more accepted in the mainstream conscious. So who knows what life holds in store for you anon.
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>>19772026
>>19772029
He's my first boyfriend and the first I've ever given a blowjob to. So he was most likely lying right? Because I seriously doubt I've gotten that good after just a few times doing it. I asked him how I could be better, but he says I'm doing good already. Any tips to be better since he doesn't seem to want to hurt my feelings or something?
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>>19772057
I've had an orgasm without spunking before, so there's a chance he isn't lying, but he most likely is. Use your tongue more. Use your hands more. Swirl tongue around tip, look up at him with the doe eyes, stroke what's not in your mouth and give his balls a fondle to see if he's into that. This still may not end in him cumming, but don't be discouraged because bjs are just generally not great for cumming.
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I don't know if she's actually awkward expressing herself or if she's simply not interested in me.

>fall in love with cute exchange student chinese girl that is both from work and uni (we work at different offices but for the same company and we have some classes together)
>start to see she has some confidence issues: she believes she's an old hag at the age of 28
>spends her whole salary on facial creams and beauty products
>I'm tall, fat and poor as fuck so lack confidence myself
>She asks me one time to go to China with her in her yearly break, even although I'm totally broke. I take that as an "interested".
>We are both stressed because finals so I ask her to go watch the Incredibles 2 together to relax for a while, she starts putting excuses that she's busy and recommends me to "go out and run" to relieve stress.
>she asks me what should she do to run away from everything once in a while. I recommend her to go spend a night under the stars in the nearby hills camping or renting a bungalow, and offer to take her there. She answers me that we should totally go together.
>she sends me an audio afterwards that she's failing her classes and that she's pretty awkward at expressing herself, so I call her at night to see how's she going. She only answers with a "don't worry, don't worry".
>Today we talk in my office (completely alone) about some uni things, like studying together and payment, and in the flow of the conversation she starts moping about how she's 28 already and some issues she has. I ask her if she plans to stay in Peru. She says "If I had a boyfriend, sure". I only answer "a boyfriend, huh?".
>She said goodbye via a fistbump, but I hit her hand so hard that she fell down to the floor. Can't tell if she's acting or not.

I'm fucking confused /adv/. She can't send hints and if she did I definitely didn't recieve them. The fuck should I do? She's gorgeous.
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>>19772038
>>19772047
ive been escalating touches for a while now

touch on the shoulder, side hug

like one situation:

>were going somewhere
>she walks next to me
>looks at me and says "youre so big i have to look so high up"
>shes like 2 heads smaller than me, im 6'2
>grab her by waist with one arm and give sorta side hug while smiling to her
>she liked it

other time
>were wearing things like approns
>im putting mine on
>she asks jokingly "and what about mine"
>i take mine off my neck, and put it on her neck, moving her glasses little bit
>she laughs and liked it, we were close to eachother
on retrospect i should pull her even closer in and tie the appron behind her back

So its not like im going to start hugging out of nowhere
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>>19772053
I've had it done on me before, but the girl has always made me wash first. I want her to eat it naturally, because I enjoy eating a girl's ass naturally.
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>>19772071
yea then it's fine, go for a proper hug as goodbye
>fucking autismo lanklets don't even know how easy they have it fucking hell
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>>19772072
I get that it's sexier, but it's a matter of perception, if a girl is turned off thinking about going there before a shower then an argument of fairness is not going to make her see it in a different light. You can't make her see things the way you do.

Having said that I'm also a Eurofag and not to play into the soft erotic European movies stereotype, but reading comments from a lot of Americans on sexual practices, physical imperfections etc I do feel people here on average are more comfortable with the inherent messiness of sex.
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>>19772022
>I guess I was mostly wondering if it sounds like he was lying to make me feel better.

Maybe, but does it matter really?

Honestly, personally I find it hard to cum from pure blowjobs alone and I think most guys do too, but it feels pretty damn fucking good and I don’t think I’d ever say no to one regardless of cumming or not.

The multiple orgasm thing... I think I’ve had it once, years ago during my first time with my gf, and I actually even think it was off a blowjob too. I didn’t ejaculate, but I did have a pretty intense reaction where my vision literally went dark from all the blood rushing to my head and also basically instantly collapsed the second I tried to get out of bed a couple minutes later because of how jellified my legs were from it.

>>19772013
>i want to escalate physical contact a bit
would hugging as greeting be good thing to do?

Do a friendly hug if that’s your natural greeting for people that are friendly., if not, then don’t. It’ll just be unnatural and awkward. Double that if you’re trying to use something that’s supposed to be innocent and innocuous to trick them in to doing something intimate. It also shows a decided lack of both balls and scruples, either making you seem like you’re creepily trying to act under false pretense and take advantage rather than act above board. It potentially puts a subconscious question mark and shady undertone to the interpretations of all your other actions.

Now, is someone likely to overthink such a simple interaction to *that* degree? No. The above is admittedly an overstatement of the situation, but the more time you spend trying to work out stupid minor details like that, the more you choke on their executions, which means the stilted, jarring, unnatural, and awkward person you come off as and the more creepy you start to seem.

>Like a tight hug and id lift her up a bit like in my animes

No. Just no. Do not do this.
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>>19772057
can only speak for myself, the best thing would be to get him to talk about it, since i cannot know his taste
personally the things i care most about that usually get neglected are: eye contact, and with some slutty face
dont grip too strongly with hands and lips, just stay in contact with it, the more gentle you are the better it gets
dont always stay on the head, move to the shaft and balls, while stroking with your hand (can also use it to regain breath if you start getting fatigued)
going deep obviously works but that takes some training (once in a while is enough, no need to constant deepthroath him)
caress his abs/legs whatever while you are going at it for good, most men dont realize the whole body can feel good
if he's into it, adding a rimjob would be top stuff, but you really have to ask him about that
frenulum is a good area to work on with the tip of your tongue
if you dont like cum in mouth tell him
if you wonder about anything in particular feel free to ask
if he opens up, dont be shy in asking yourself how you want to be eaten out, my girl cant explain me anything and i always feel like i do an average job
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>>19772084
I would never try to make a girl do it fi she didn't want to. I'm just saying it would be nise to find someone that would that's all.

For what its worth I love getting messy during sex!
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>>19772085
>Maybe, but does it matter really?
I want to make him feel good, I can't if he doesn't tell me how to make it better.

>>19772088
Thank you! I will keep all of this in mind for the next time.
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I'm quite a naturally hairy guy, can I gather some opinions on the following?
Don't care/trimmed/shaved etc.

>Chest hair

>Belly hair

>Back hair

>Arm/armpit hair

>Leg/arse hair

>Pubes

I'm white British if that makes any difference. Just trying to get a general idea of what girls prefer/expect. Pic semi-related.
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My dad won't stop lying online!

>Parents have Facebook
>Dad adds absolutely everyone
>Posts REALLY fake pictures
>Photoshopped pictures of him with celebrities
>Photoshopped pictures of him doing sports
>Photoshopped himself on an aircraft carrier for some reason
>Photoshopped picture of him eating dinner with football stars
>Photoshopped pictures of him next to sports cars
>All extremely fake but can tell he has put work into them
>Posts old pictures of kids who look nothing like him playing Baseball
>Posts old pictures of kids who look nothing like him meeting presidents
>Posts old pictures of kids who look nothing like him getting awards
>He printed out multiple fake degrees to take pictures of for Facebook
>Says shit like "In flight to LA for business deal"
>Says shit like "Going to go meet (random celebrity) for dinner"
>Friends give me constant shit about it
>Girlfriend won't stop reading his Facebook and laughing

Here's the thing, my dad works for a bank as an accountant, he is by no means a rich man, but not poor either, he's not old and he's not doing this because he feels like he's a failure, he just lies a FUCK ton online, and I don't think he realizes that we're all reading his Facebook posts, in person he is extremely nice and never lies at all, but online is another story

How do I put an end to this without hurting his feelings?
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>>19772110
im naturally non hairy but anyway the comments from girl are usually neutral on it, just wild armpit and groin triggers them but more because of dirt looking
trim is usually helpful on chest/ass and irrelevant on arms/legs but it really depends, unless you are gorilla tier
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>still no trace of taarof grill
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>>19772085
im just getting tired of just nice smiles and "Heyy" for greetings
and i bet she is too
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>>19772110
>don't shave
>don't care
>a lot of back hair is a tiny bit unattractive to me, but it sounds like a pain to trim/shave so whatever
>don't shave
>don't shave
>Prefer unshaven/trimmed

I prefer my guy to be more hairy than most, than for him to shave his fucking legs or pits. It's just weird to me
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>>19772128
whip it out next time brah
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Reply to this post with b, if you have a benis, and b, if you have bagina.
>b and b
Oh fugggg... :DDDD
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>>19772140
:b:
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>>19772123
Not exactly gorilla tier and it's not super thick hair, it's just quite widespread. I'm mostly self-conscious about belly hair desu. I'm not sure what common etiquette is towards dealing with it.

>>19772135
Fair enough then. Guess I have to hope that's a common attitude towards it.
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>>19772152
>not super thick hair, it's just quite widespread
you are probably fine like you are
just ask the girl what she likes, if that's not a particular problem for you to deal with
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>>19772008
Maybe. But we have spoken a bit before, adn she wasnt around when I ran into the sister. So IDK
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>>19771676
not who originally asked. thank you for this. you've filled in a few spots that i couldn't see were even missing and rounded the whole thing out. the understanding i'd come to was bretty close but disjointed and incomplete. what you've laid out is 10/10. posts were clear, well stated, and insightful as fuck. makes the loneliness hurts less and that's the closest i'm probably ever gonna get to it not making me sad. you have my gratitude m8
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>>19771783
>>19771783
>>19771783
any other takes?

Thanks in advance
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>>19772170
what this one >>19771829 said
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>best friend broke up with her boyfriend to ask me out
>had to tell her I don't feel the same
>she got back with that boyfriend
How do I ask her to hang out without shit being incredibly awkward/her saying no due to feeling bad/her boyfriend?

Is the friendship dead?
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>>19772196
>Is the friendship dead?
probably, yes
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>>19772196
>How do I ask her to hang out without shit being incredibly awkward/her saying no due to feeling bad/her boyfriend?
"hi, wanna hang out?
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why must you make me hate myself for things about myself I can't change?
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>>19772207
I already know how that goes. Her response would just be some random bullshit excuse that she knows I won't argue against because it will inevitably involve her family in some way.

>>19772205
Figured as much. That's shit.
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>>19772118
That's not a big deal, if your friends think it's anything but funny they're assholes, let the man do what he wants with his life
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>>19771730
>is milky white alabaster pale lovely literal best skin unattractive?
uwot? lolno. pale skin is hnnnggg. just wear clothes that complement it, don't sport a wardrobe that makes you look washed out and you're good. find some veins and tell me what you see -- blue or green?
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Girls?
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>>19772213
>Her response would just be some random bullshit excuse that she knows I won't argue against because it will inevitably involve her family in some way.
and you know that because you never tried that, huh?
it seems that *you* are making the situation awkward and it's in your hands to change it
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>>19772229
She's my best friend. Or at least, was. I know her like the back of my hand.
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>>19772236
man/woman best friend things never work in the long run
it's possible to have friends of opposite sex (hard still) but bringin in the "best friend" thing will break up things sooner or later, from what i've seen
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>>19771817
stop worrying. this is one of the rare instances where lying to yourself won't ultimately assfuck you dry for being retarded. bullshit yourself into thinking you don't care as much as you do so the stakes won't suddenly seem as high and you'll be able to relax and roll with it again like in the beginning.
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>>19771838
>curious if I'm doing this right
you are, and good on you for it
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What's wrong with women these days? Every time I find the "perfect" girl, perfect as in she likes anime, cartoons, cosplay, gaming, wants children, loves heroes and more, she either is a fucking fatass or her skitzo about being in something

Let me elaborate a bit:

I bet this girl on meet.me. We are a GREAT match. We talk for almost 12+hs together on skype. Then within 2 days of knowing each other, she came over for the night, we ended up having sex. I regret it because I'm a hopeless romantic and we were heavily in love. Right now we could be bf/gf but she's so scared of being in a relationship with someone for some reason. Come to find out she was in living on and off with her ex and sleeping in the same bed for a few months after they broke up.

I got the chance to explain "I think the biggest reason you can't move on from him is due to the fact that you're always around him. You're around his scent, his stuff, his bed, everything around you that is his will always be in your head going "why can't we be something" and you know it's not going to work out"

I think she got it. She doesn't want him. I know what she wants, she wants a bf that wants her for her. She wants someone who will take things slow. I've never done it before but that doesn't mean I can't. She keeps saying "I don't want to change you," I told her that doesn't affect me at all. Changing for the better. She then tells me "I hate change," I don't know why. I think it has a lot to do with her ex and her parents. Her mom thinks its fucked up I live with my mom, but she's 20 and I'm 26. I told her that she has no excuse to say that to her about me when she too is 20. living on your own is near to impossible with a 7.25/h job. You'd have to live in an apartment of 300/m and that right there does not exist and if it does, it's roomates.

I explained all the math to her. Her mom is of course a baby boomer and a lot of them think this way
p2 next
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>>19772236
and you just came here to hear what you wanted to hear
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>>19772262
I came hear to ask if the friendship was dead, knowing it most likely was. That's not what I wanted to hear. Stop projecting onto me. It's fucking weird.
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P2

We've been talking for almost 3 weeks now sense we had sex. We originally planned on being together but that's when she freaked out. I told her my real feelings. I'm not looking for sex, I'm not a teenager, I'm not a "young adult." what I mean is, I don't party, I don't stay out late, I just go home and do my own thing. Sure,. I'm an extrovert but I don't like parties. I'm an extroverted geek is the best way to put it.

I know she wants me but she's too afraid to admit I'm perfect. I have no REAL problems other than trying to save to get out of here.

So my question to all the ladies, why is it when you find a good man for you that you run away? Why is it that every man you know is right for you, you turn them down. Why do you go for the assholes? The douchebags, the ones that only want you for your body? Why not your mind and what you want? Why?
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>>19772003
>which meme degree should i get myself into mountains of debt for?
neither, both are memes
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>>19772270
you are not willing to take advice that's against your line of thinking.
yes, you obviously came here to hear what you wanted to hear, pleasant or not.
I told you what you can do to try to put things right again, but you won't listen, it would destroy your worldview
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>>19772259
>why are all women broken?
>let me elaborate
>I know one woman who would be perfect if not for some weird shit
>women, why the fuck are you all terrible?
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Never ask 4chan about schooling. It's like asking a retard what spice to put on a buritto. Some how, you're going to get the answer of "BUT I LIKE CHOCOLATE SAUCE ON EVERYTHING!"
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>>19772282
I just text her asking to hang out. She said she may or may not be babysitting her cousin that day. Hey, would you look at that? A bullshit excuse that she knows I won't argue against because it involves her family.

It's almost like I know her better than you do or something.
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>>19772282
you could also suggest him to shot his friend, that's also another pov
not all povs are reasonable nor realistic tho
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What exercises make you the horniest?
t. 30 yo limp dick.
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>>19772288
To an extent, that does slightly explain my situation but not completely

>>19772290
buddy, that's an excuse right there. She could EASILY hang out with you "Hey little cousin, lets go hang out with my friend at the mall." I've dated mom's that would come and get me and we'd hang out at the mall with her kids, I didn't mind.
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>>19772225
tfw pale as fuck
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>>19772294
Ooooh, you've never actually interacted with another human in your life. That makes more sense.
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>>19772293
deadlifts and squats and heavy bent over rows
t. male
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>>19772294
>this freak who can't nail down a girlfriend is trying to tell others how to interact with women
Stunning.
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>>19772290
look, if you actually do know her better than anyone here, no advice given here can help you and you should be aware of that.
>>19772292
suggest a better advice
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>>19772306
you must be new here. all /adv/isors here are similar
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>>19772306
>people here are actually looking for advice and not doing 45th layers larpbaiting
Anon, I...
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>>19772302
Yes, plenty. People make excuses these days for no reason because they are scared of "being hurt"

>>19772306
I've had several girlfriends. My first gf was for 3 years till she cheated on me with my best friend at the time.
I've had 3 GFs in the last 6 years. Not long because they all left for the dumbest reason. I've HAD gfs.Just not long. I know what it normally takes to get a gf, but at the same time, I'm also very picky in what I want. I want a gf that wants me as I am. I want a geeky nerdy gf. someone suggest I could get a gf and mold her to my liking but that's controlling. And I don't want to dot that.
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>>19772319
>cheated on me with my best friend
my condolences
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>>19772321
We aren't friends anymore. However, I can't feel mad at him. Another friend said it's because she went to him.
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>>19772236
Just say

>hey, I know shits kind of awkward between us at the moment, but value you too much as a friend and you’re too important in my life to just let things just slide away without saying, so let me know if you want to talk if you feel the same.

My situation wasn’t the same as yours, it was equally complicated in a very different way (No other dude, but she was gay and going through a very rough part of her life, we hooked up a few times and a hodghepodge of confused emotional shit was going down) but thats pretty much what I told my best friend when shit got awkward between us because she apparently felt and wanted something beyond what I did.

It took a couple of weeks of her avoiding me, but I eventually confronted her, we had a brief talk, and we went back to being best friends, and actually came out closer for it.
That being said. Recently, almost half a decade later, I’ve come to the very scary realization that maybe that chapter of our lives didn’t end as cleanly as I thought and I’ve just kind of been fooling myself a bit and seeing things how I want to see them... and it lead to something almost destroyed my relationship with my gf...

Shits messy sometimes, but you should always still try to fight for the things you care about.

I have no regrets for fighting for it, if anything I only regret not going to further lengths to fight to resolve things (instead we both just kind of tacitly agreed to move forward, letting the majority of the truly awkward things pass by unspoken til they were kind of forgotten... or at least that’s what I thought... which may have not actually been what happened in reality)
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>>19772196
Guess I should tag the original post too: >>19772329
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women with exp on both cut and uncut penis: did the uncut one hurt after a while? like, dry hurt? with comparable size
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>>19772110
>>Chest hair
don't care
>>Belly hair
don't care
>>Back hair
strand length of 4mm at ±0.0002 accuracy at all times or i lose interest
>>Arm/armpit hair
don't care
>>Leg/arse hair
don't care
>>Pubes
trimmed
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>>19772081
Im 6'2 but also 26khhv

Confidence is everything
I have height frame but no face and i have had shitty childhood and thus zero social exoerience

Trying to make uo for it in late 20s is uphill game but im tryinf
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How do you girls feel about Shinji-kun
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I kinda want to be strong. And from other side i would like to be lean and aesthetic

Girls would you rather have thick bearmode guy or rather lean skinny guy
Tfw neither because i have very lanky frame and 6'2
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Please help, I don't know where to go at this point

>Be with girl for 4 years
>She's a little verbally abusive towards me
>Calls me retarded and worthless in front of people
>Friend (Let's call him Mark) talks to me a lot about it
>Tells me she's not good for me
>Says she's crazy and a total bitch
>For months he tries to convince me to leave her
>One day we are all playing Mario Party together
>Me her and 2 other friends including Mark
>Throughout the entire game she's just insulting me
>Making me feel like total shit
>Friends look uncomfortable as she screams at me
>Eventually they just leave before the game is even over
>That's when it clicks together in my head that she's not good for me
>Sit her down and tell her I'm leaving her
>Be pretty blunt about it and let her know how I feel
>Tell her all she does is treat me like shit and call me useless
>Surprisingly she's not mad and just sits there and cries silently
>Pack my things and go to stay with my parents for a bit
>Next day I call my friend Mark
>Tell him that I left her because of how she treats me
>"You did the right thing man, she's not a good person" his exact words
>Looking through Facebook next afternoon
>She deactivated her Facebook and removed me from everything
>Suddenly Mark's news feed pops
>"Having lunch with the babe!" it's a picture of Mark and her eating
>Try texting and calling him but he doesn't pick up
>Notice on Steam they're playing games together
>And eating dinner together
>Spending literally 24/7 together since I left her

So after telling me for literal months to dump her he just slides in and takes my place, I've known her for 4 years and Mark for 11 YEARS, so I'm extremely hurt, he's blocked me on everything and won't answer his phone or the door when I went to go see him, so I dunno what to do anymore...
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>>19772371
you lost a fake friend and an abusive gf, seems like a double win to me honestly
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>>19772371
dude they were fucking behind your back. Ltierally the same shit with my exbest friend and my first ex as I mentioned. You're better off. He's a flake, she's a bitch. you're better off this way. If they were cheating on you this whole time and not tell you, who knows how much more was going on. You're better off this way.
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>>19772355
ottermode is best mode
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>Met a girl over summer here on a working holiday
>We hit it off
>She was amazing, very pretty, incredibly easy to talk to, very funny. The perfect woman
>She left in March
>I unironically cried for the first time in a long time when she left
>Still friends on Facebook and talk to her from time to time but it's not the same knowing she's half the world away
>Tried to get back into the dating game
>Every other girl I meet is just bland and flat and generally uninteresting compared to her
How do I stop comparing new girls I meet to literal perfection? It always makes me like them less.
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>>19772371
Sounds like you killed two birds with one stone. Your life will be immeasurably better from here on out.

>calling her "babe" within a day
She cheated on you too.
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>>19771471
What are some interesting or unusual face to face sex positions? My gf is deaf so in order for us to communicate during sex without her stopping and turning around we kinda need to face each other, and missionary, cowgirl, and the lotus position are all we do.
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>>19772118
so this is what "hey having a faceberg profile might be fun" feels like. sounds awesome and funny as fuck. let the man enjoy his hobby. encourage your friends in their respective creative outlets and tell them not to be jelly of your pop's imagination. next time you get shit for it, ask dad to put the pic up from that one time you and Kyle jousted and he's btfo in midair getting flung off the horse
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>>19772379
>>19772385
>>19772393
Thanks, I was really trying to see a bright side and honestly really hoping she wasn't cheating on me, but yeah...I guess all the signs are there, I guess it's just time to rebuild.
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Girls:

Do you like Death Grips?
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>>19772404
I'm not going to lie, I'm not going to tell you easy. I was in a relationship for 3 years and when we broke up it ate at my soul. It m made me feel like shit. It made me feel like I wasn't wanted and no one loved me. I cried for months, I couldn't see her say her name without wanting to cry. I know what it feels like to have your heart ripped out and stomped on by the person you wanted more than anything. Basically it's the same idea as "don't meet your idols"
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>>19772140
pajeet's thread got baleeted before i could shitpost this at him. is fitting enough so goes here nao.
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I just started dating a girl this week and her birthday is coming up in a few days. Should I get her anything or plan something?
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>>19772225
Thanks, kind of depressed reading that everyone prefers tan skin everywhere and your post kind of made me happy.
>find some veins and tell me what you see -- blue or green?
What? Why?
My veins (on my arm) are kind of green water, but if I had to choose green.
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>>19772210
don't hate yourself anon :(
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>>19772417
Woman lately in this generation are flakes.Your best bet is to get her something. The parents already have everything planned out, you're all set. Don't worry about it.Get her something nice.
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>>19772418
I used kind three times in my post wtf sorry for that
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>>19772371
been here m8
it'd be very tough to get over it, but eventually you will
also remember that it does not matter for how long you stayed friends, it does nkt matter
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>>19772417
No, dont submit yourself after a week ffs
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>>19772415
I honestly don't know how I feel anymore, I feel everything all at once but can't focus on just one feeling, I feel sadness, anger, regret, everything you can think of, but everything is just slowly starting to feel monotone, I can literally feel my world turning black and white, as emo and stupid as that sounds, it's like everything lost its color

I have a feeling this feeling is going to last a very long time, I'm just wondering where it all went wrong, she wasn't always mean to me, she just started changing one day, and my friend Mark was always there for me, he was one of my best friends I've known for so long, I don't know why he would do this to me

I have so many questions but I feel I'll never get any answers, I don't have any ties where I am so I'm thinking of just packing up and leaving, I have the resources to do it but I don't know if running away will solve my problems

The worst part is, it's almost like everyone saw this coming, when I tried talking to my other friends about it they were like "Oh no...that's awful..." like Willy Wonka when he told the kids to stop, like it was almost like they were mocking me

Did everyone see it but me? Did everyone know she was cheating? I don't know who I can trust anymore, I honestly just feel like sleeping as much as possible until I feel better.
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>>19772417
Get her a card. It costs less than a dollar but shows you still thought of her.
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>>19772227
iphones are fukken gay

>t. someone who thinks snow leopard is the uncontested greatest os evar and passionately despises jewgle
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>>19772289
enjoy denbts
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>>19772298
hhnnngg af
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>>19772434
If you don't already, start lifting weights. I cannot explain how much it helps your mental state after something like this.
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Why would a girl who was seemingly a close friend, just go and ghost you?

Basically she flaked 1 time, and I told her I was a bit annoyed with it. (This is like after ~10 outtings) but the next time I reached out, nothing. I tried again after, and again nothing. Been over 2 months so far...
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>>19772434
>my friend mark
No, he was never truly your friend, hitting on your girl is 1 thing, completely stabbing you in the back and taking your girl, that's different. I hit on my friend's girls and they know Im harmless. Mark, he was a dick. he took what he KNEW was precious and said "LOL fuck your feelings"

>I feel emo
that's normal after a break up. I literally started to cut myself. I have cut marks on my arms and legs. Around 80+ cuts all over. But some how it helped.

>did everyone but I see this coming?

Likely, most people are dicks these days and don't want to say "bud, this girl? You see her? She's mean to you, tell her to stop"
You likely had been told, I know have been told so many times with this current girl and the other girls I've dated too. They've said either she's bad for me or to stop being a dick

>who to trust
You honestly want to know? 4chan. Of all people here, we can trust each other the most because we don't care about your feelings, we care about results. I'm not going to call you a pussy, you're hurting because this bitch fucked you up and feelings are real. If you cry in your sleep every other night for a few months, I wouldn't blame you. I know how hurt you feel dude. You just want to cry, scream, punch a wall, watch these 2 fucking assholes burn and scream Crawling in my skin or Breaking the Hsbit.

>>19772446
I had a friend from the time of 1rst grade up to about 18 years old. Which was about 5-18. We dated once. We were great friends. I tried so hard to get with her bit also we were friends. I moved into my grandfather's and she got to know my cousin. We talked all the time on Yahoo MSGR. She then came over, met him and he told her things and vice versa. Some how she trusted him who she didn't know more than 2 months and 3 months later she says "when you get your life together, then talk to me" and she blipped on me. I've had this happen at least 4xs because flakey ass people.
TBC
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p2
Flakey ass people like that, they want to control you, they want to control your every move. If you're not doing EXACTLY what they want, they get made. If you're not doing what they desirte rtight then and there, they get mad if you aren't doing exactly everything right.

I've had controlling ass people in my life for almost 16 years. My aunt with my uncle and me when I lived with them. My grandfather, my exes and so on. 1 thing I can tell you dude, these type of friends?

actually

just this "DANCE PUPPET DANCE! DO WHAT I SAY! YOUR STRINGS ARE TANGLED?! HOW DARE YOU!"
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>>19771471
So Anons I might as well kill two birds with one stone here and say I have two issues one is substantially bigger than the other.

The minor one being I've never had a gf and now that I'm out of education I have no idea how to get one as in no real idea at all to a point where I feel a bit like a robot if anyone has any suggestions that would be incredible
>INB4 what Job/ hobbies do you have etc
Work is full time, not too many women at my work staff wise and the clients I don't want to get with, hobbies boil down to guitar, lifting and learning languages

The second issue is how I seem to react to Sex, when clubbing or faced with an opportunity to have sex I seem to either shut down, panic or try to escape that situation by any means, again if I'm in a club and a girl likes me and starts grabbing me and shows interest I only seem to feel awkward at the least and feeling a need to escape at most knowing that I just don't want it and I'm trying to figure out why I react like that when it seems everyone on /r9k/ would kill for something like that to happen. And it's gotten to a point where my friends are taking note and are starting to take the mick.

I don't think I have any sexual trauma from my childhood so I don't know why I'm having these feelings. Although it's telling I have some down the line as I've only ever fancied one person in my life.

Any suggestions of what to do Anons?
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How do I get over disgust from past relationships? My SO gave me an old laptop and when it started up it loaded up a conversation him and his ex had a couple of years ago. There were a lot of "I love yous", some of the same compliments he told me and shit, it made me feel very sick. I knew he had past relationships (he is my first) and it was something I did my best to ignore, but having it right in front of my face like that was a huge shock and makes me feel extremely disgusted. Everything he said and did I thought was special, he experienced with several other people. He said things he did not mean. He tells me he wants to be with me forever and I want the same, but I don't know if that's actually true or if it's just my turn at the moment.
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>>19772472
>how do I get over someone I loved
you dont. It's plain and simple I'm not trying to be a downer, but you will always have this feeling that someone loved you and you know deep down that you still have feelings even if they are painful. Do I still love my ex? Yes. but would I take her back? I dunno.You will forever have this feeling of dread
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women:
do you prefer mouth or fingers
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>>19772482
Both
That's like asking "do you prefer cake or ice cream" nigger
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>>19771472
bump?
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>>19772413
I'm a dude, but I need to post this.
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>>19772418
what, like standard popular media type stuff? it's designed to do that. it's not meant to entertain or inform you of stuff, it's to convince people of shit that's beneficial to whoever backing it financially. don't read too much into shit like that.
>green
wear dark charcoal greys in place of black. deep mahogany browns are another good "neutral" colour. ditto at the opposite end of the spectrum. see if pale cremes and off whites don't look better than stark white for stuff like dress shirts.
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>>19772488
Ice cream is objectively better though...
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>>19772425
i just told a guy to have his dad shoop him beating his bestie in a joust and then started spurdoposting, kek don't worry about it
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>>19772471
the first issue is pretty trivial and boils down to doing whatever the fuck you can. Go to parties, as many as different as possible. If no parties are available, you can make actual friends through tinder or other media and start partying with them or go to clubs/bars to do the same.
You can travel, using tinder and bars all right.

the second issue is more interesting.
I'd guess that you have some bigger problems with parents, especially mother. Do you despise her or something? or is she overprotective?
many different issues may have the same effect here. I ask because I have a female friend who really hates her father (mother kind of too). She wants to have a partner, but she scares everyone off. She's too scared of them and she doesn't show them any signals. The only exceptions are truly weak and miserable ones, whom she pities. She watched her mother being very kind to such men and she does the same now.
Your case seems pretty similar, although the details almost certainly vary.
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>>19772509
Joking aside multiple orgasms from multiple sources is best
Internal with external orgasms, tongue and fingers, dick and fingers, dick and toy, toy and tongue, etc. You get the picture.
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>>19772434
boy you gotta live and learn

next time pay attention to those who shittalk to your partner
you must separate your love life and friends, always
cucks will probably be against that though
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>>19772482
fingers, but i've always gotten the impression i'm in the minority there
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Women, how do you like men to smell? I shower daily and use something like Irish Spring deodorant if I'm going out. Not into overpowering shit like Axe. Is there a kind of deodorant that you think smells really nice?
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>>19772538
like himself. natural scent best scent. dem pheromones.
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>>19772512
I think I might be your friends male doppelganger Anon
With my Dad he was almost always distant and even talking to him now he doesn't feel like my dad that paternal feeling isn't there, and because of that I feel like I need to be the father my brothers never had and have been told I'd be a good parent a few times now. My mother I feel very mixed towards as In I know she wants to do well but I truly hate her parenting style it's inefficient and reckless, her alcoholism that is a drain on all the families wallet and the one phase of her bringing random men over for one night stands knowing all of the family could hear when we were young was something I found to be despicable Anon.

And I wouldn't say I'm scared of women I care about them as I would any other person it's when they show romantic interest I get panicky and feel like I need to escape after turning them down I usually try to get them a good bf as I do want to see them happy I just think wouldn't be a dutiful bf if I were theirs.

With the weak men and women alike I want to help them and see them be happy as I feel like that's what a decent person needs to do.

With the one girl I liked I tend to show far I seem to show far too much emotion and weakness when talking to her, as much as I want to be strong for her but I seem to falter quite a bit despite that she's recently hinted that she likes me and said that she always wants to be there for me and it seems some switch has flipped and instead of wanting that like I thought I did, I've seemingly done a Don Draper, panicked and went to rural Scotland just coming back tonight.

After writing that all out Anon I think I have a lot to deal with. On Clubs and the like I've tried and really can't get with anyone there again I either feel repulsed or in need of an escape and I doubt the people on tinder are looking for long term commitments and issues that I seem to have.
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Guys, have any of you reconciled with an ex-gf?

If so, what did she do which made you go back to her?
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>>19771836
...netherlandish anon?
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>>19772597
Only time I've ever seen it, the girl dumped the guy and just went back to him when the guy she dumped him for didn't feel the same as she did.

It's the sign of an unhealthy relationship.
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>>19772580
yeah, that's definitely a bag of issues. They'll get more clear and manageable with time, now that you want to change them. If you have friends whom you trust, ask them about this stuff. Things like what is ok to feel like and what is not. What was right in your parent's behavior and what was unacceptable. You already did your homework, but most likely there are still things you can't grasp yet and think they are normal. Maybe they are holding you from proper dating.
If friends aren't available, therapist can do. If psychedelics are your thing, they can help a lot.

I don't really know what you should do to act normal, maybe just forcing yourself could help.

As for Tinder, I only suggested it as a way to make some new friends. There is a lot of nice girls there, who don't look for more than just spending some time with another person. That's a perfect opportunity to find someone you like. Then they can invite you to their parties and thus broaden your pool of friends.


Anyway, good luck.
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>>19772546
This probably true desu. My ex-gf would pick up my dirty sweaty shirts, roll them into a ball and sleep with it like it was her fucking teddy bear or something. Said she loved the smell because it smelled like me.
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>>19772597
never, but I would do so if she actually changed and stopped doing whatever made me break up with her in the first place, obviously
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So I have this qt I volunteer with, and recently we've got somewhat closer and I want to ask her out. Im very concerned that if she says no it'd foil my relationships with her and our mutual friends, and need some advice on how should I ask her out and wether should I wait for a time I will more ready to confront her or go at it right now.
If she says yes, I'm planning on taking her to a jazz club I know since it's a cool place and both of us like jazz.
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>>19772623
the one where we do your shirt like a pillowcase so we can go to sleep feeling like we're cuddling with our head on your chest is pathetic enough that we don't talk about it much but you can bet your arse this too is a thing that happens
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>>19772647
well, do you really have to put things on the blade's edge then?
I would just ask her if she wanted to go to the club.
if she did, next time I would take her to yet another place and if she wanted me, sooner or later we would end up in bed
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A girl I no longer have feelings for and I were chatting.
Casual conversation she said she had to go to town later on and I asked her why she was going and she replied.
>I don't want to tell you.
Now this girl loved my attention and the attention my attention brought with it so she has been playing up to me a lot lately since she knows I have stopped caring.
But this statement bothers me
>I don't want to tell you.
She is trying to fuck with my head isn't she?
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If a conversation with a girl I had on Tinder dies down should I still try and ask her out to lunch later on?
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>>19772663
eh it's kinda cute actually.
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>>19772687
It could be that she was doing something embarrassing or silly. It could be that she believes you still have feelings for her and the answer would hurt you. Or she could be trying to cultivate an air of mystery.

It probably wasn't intended to piss you off, unless she normally pulls that sort of shit.
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>>19772620
Thing is Anon these issues don't effect me on a daily or weekly basis, it only seems to be in the certain contexts of what I posted, as I do go out and I do have quite a few friends and I definitely know what's socially acceptable and what isn't, I just can't get with people I've just met I really can't because of how distressed and panicked I feel from it all that and difficulty letting myself be loved/be in a relationship I guess and thanks to you I've realised that's more than likely due to my mum.

On tinder maybe it's the stigma labeled with it of the quick hookup app it puts me off and makes me feel a little too uncomfortable just writing that for my liking I think I'll avoid it for now (makes me feel pretty pathetic saying that ngl)

Regardless thanks for your time Anon it meant a lot
>>19772687
If she's being coy with you be playful back something as simple as why not will do Anon.
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>>19772693
Nothing to lose by doing so
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>>19772687
don't overthink it, anon
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>>19772696
It can't be anything embarrassing we have had detailed conversations about having diarrhea, her period, what porn I watch and I am one of the few people who know she had a pregnancy scare.
She tells me about boys she dates too so I assume she is just fucking with me.

>>19772697
>If she's being coy with you be playful back something as simple as why not will do Anon.
What should I say? It basically went along the lines.
> I don't want to tell you
>oooohhh wow is it a boy?
>um I don't want to tell you
>Why not?
>Just don't
>Fair enough.

>>19772705
Too late, I think she won this battle. I know she wasn't doing anything major she sent me a snap of her eating food a forty minutes after she left for town so she would have had 10 -15 minutes doing what she was doing, if she went at all.
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>>19771583
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Are women more polite and do they listen more? I swear women are more likely to pay attention to what I'm saying and hear me out than other men are
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>>19772663

Holy shit, haha. But really no more pathetic than things guys do.
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>>19772734
yeah jacking off with your panties is pretty out there
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>>19772667
Yeah, I guess I will call her somewhere tommorow after I get my work arrangment.
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>>19771583
>greentext
If I hit on a girl and get turned down, I don't feel the need to stick around.

I don't really seek out women as friends all that much, because they make me feel funny
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>>19771583
Some women are not "friend material".
t. guy with many female friends
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>>19772532
my gf prefers fingers, strangely, ever other woman ive been with prefers my mouth
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>>19772695
...can these cutes you speak of be exchanged for cuddles?

>>19772713
kek, was waiting for this. surprised it took this long.

>>19772718
aye, we're supposed to be. just our nature. feminism has been trying to kill that for decades too, glad to hear they're still not fully succeeding

>>19772734
wait, really? like what?
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>>19771471
>be guy
>flirt a lot with girl in class
>ask her out last friday
>she says "i cant, family is visiting, so maybe next week? ill let you know"
>its next week

she's probably not interested, but i want to ask one last time to know for sure.

i only see her once a week, on fridays. i know the general rule is that girls will never ask the guy out, but what about if the ball is in her court? at this point, is it right for me to juts wait for her to give me an update while we're in class? and if she doesn't give me an update (ie. her family is gone) its safe to say that she's not interested, right?
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>>19772777
gf has patrician tastes, the digits have confirmed it
mouth is nice too of course, don't get me wrong, i'd just rather it be kissing me or biting stuff or talking shit
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>>19772811
Im having the exact same situation as you now. Move on, don't bother asking her or seem needy.
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>>19772597
yeah. out of desperation. regret it immensely, but at least i eventually broke it off, cut off all contact and at this point haven't talked to her in months. she tried calling me over and over one night (almost positive it was a drunk booty call, which she used to do a lot when we were together), but i didn't answer. gave her the ol' block. but yeah. feel like i need a couple years to heal from this one. no relationships for me. sex would be great tho
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>>19771471

men or women

how do i come off as being almost apathetic but also not completely uncaring at the same time?

I feel weak and vulnerable a lot when i voice my depression/anxiety/moodiness to my boyfriend and even more weak when i say things pertaining to marriage or how much i like him (i like him a lot and sometimes i get too excited)

anyway, tonight i said that i intended on marrying him in the future (3-5 years from now) because i thought he would find it sweet but instead he got weirded out because he’s “really young”
despite us both being 21

i’m really confused because i thought he had the same energy towards me. anyway, how to i be more subtle and apathetic?

i feel like my emotions are on display over text and in real life 24/7
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>>19771994
This thread has had a lot of thoughtful replies. Thank you for taking the time, anons!
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how the FUCK am i supposed to progress with a girl that puts zero fucking effort into conversations? for context, i message this girl everyone as a while and get responded to like 100% of the time but im also sort of an aspie that doesnt initiate contact that much in the first place
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>new work
>gorgeous girl there
>by luck we are working on the same project, essentially just us
>at work we only talk about work
>she starts wearing perfume and a bit more makeup after this
>linger in each other's offices
>I offer her a ride home since it just rained and might again
>she's on the phone and says its close and she can walk
where am I going wrong? we're both kind of autistic/adhd/over-analyzers, so I'm not sure if that's the issue--essentially I've done the exact same thing, but didn't take the hint, so I think that's a possibility.
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Girls

How is it “weird” if a guy sleeps over after hooking up with you? I just heard a girl say she hooked up with a guy from Tinder and he stayed the night and “it was soooo weird!”. How can it be weird after you just took this random dudes dick and swapped fluids with him?
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>>19772896
Not a girl, but when you're not really looking for anything, having some rando sleep in your bed is probably the last thing you want. Likely feeling a lot of regret immediately after fucking, and some dud that isn't leaving and essentially being in your space is only extending the shame
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>>19772896
>expecting disfunctional broken fuckers to understand intimacy or process it healthily
bet she'd lose her mind if you called her a whore though
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>>19772908
>bet that girl would get mad if you insulted her
>women these days
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>>19772915
>>19772917
she's insulting herself, all he'd really be doing is agreeing with her
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>>19772902
But she just fucked him? She just allowed some guy to put his dick inside of her body, but that’s NOT weird?

>>19772915
Is it really an insult tho? She’s choosing that lifestyle
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>>19772923
>>19772922
In some ways fucking for free is better than whoring for actual money, but that's a different story.

Also women don't like the truth, don't think you're realism is going to be persuasive, or that she won't react negatively to the obvious resulting cognitive dissonance your remark will present her with.

I'm not arguing that it's reasonable, but let's be real with our expectations
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>>19772934
>Also women don't like the truth

Yeah that is true. I know another girl who just graduated from University. I’ve heard her mercilessly talk shit about another girl who slept around a lot. She called her “a dumb bimbo who loves racking up her number”. But guess what? When I asked this shit talker what her personal number, she said to me “wait. Ummm, like, 14? That’s normal tho”
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>>19772948
yikes lmao
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>>19772934
still a whore either way though so how much would whatever those small differences are even matter?

>Also women don't like the truth
duh but look how great outright lying to us and/or just sorta shielding us from it has worked out

>don't think you're realism is going to be persuasive, or that she won't react negatively
i don't think that, that's why i said literally the opposite
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Hey women, how would you feel about men who let themselves cry? Not at the drop of a hat, but if something really bugged them, like a family member passing or from a past trauma?
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>>19772985
if theres anything that i learned from my parents marriage its that men should almost never cry in front of the woman

there is no problem if you do it in private

if your girl asks, tell her that the event is making you feel emotional and that you need to get some air/space
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>>19772985
It's actually a great way of seeing if your partner is shit or not. If they react poorly you know to pump and dump them.
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>removed myself from women for years
>got attention anyway
>have a kind of personality they like, or so I have been told
>every time I think about having sex or getting a gf I feel miserable
If I have good experience will it unfuck my thinking? If so, what should I do?
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>>19772985
not crying at e.g. a family member's passing would be almost as offputting as crying at the drop of a hat. that being said, we're the emotionally volatile and unsteady ones so it kicks at something base and unconscious in us when the dude isn't the steady and stronk one of the pair. plenty of women out there who unfortunately can't handle that and don't know how to overcome it, or don't want to perhaps. this one kinda depends on the girl, the specific dynamic between you, how long you've been together, how much shit you've been through, etc.
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I have a girl from tinder who is going to come over. Ive met a heap of girls off the app before but hookups always at their place never at mine. She said something about meeting out first to get stuff from a supermarket to make dinner first. Problem is I don't have my license (which I know is a turnoff) and I pretty much just want her to come over. Would it seem dodgy if I said 'I'm at the shops now what do you want?'. I'm assuming she wants to meet in public first to make sure I'm not crazy
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>>19773030
we can't answer that m8. do you want it to unfuck your thinking? are you convinced your thinking can't be unfucked? technically you could unfuck your thinking yourself, it's just hard as fuck to do that. but yeah if you already think it can't be unfucked then nothing's gonna unfuck it because you won't let it.
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>>19773046
>do you want it to unfuck your thinking? are you convinced your thinking can't be unfucked?
Gonna have to answer yes to both. Fuck man, I wish I knew what to do
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On the subject of crying, whenever I get really pissed I start crying. I'm mad, yelling, but tears are streaming down my face. Is that a turnoff?
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GUYS

can you shed some light on this pls?
>>19772854
>>19772873

>tfw unironically what did he mean by this? posting
also pls kill me
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>>19771664
>>19771668
>>19771676
This is one of the prime truths of the world, well said anon.
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>>19773073
if it were me, i'd try it and at least see how it goes. stay mindful of the possibility of you subconsciously trying to kill it dead if it does go well so you can head that off and prove yourself wrong. or, if you've got the willpower for it, just straight up decide right now that your thinking CAN be unfucked. obligatory "because fuck you that's why" too for good measure. whatever happened before, you've gotten stuck as a result in one of those really gay spots where you can either be right or you can be happy. only way out is by force.

>>19773085
yes. the temper and the yelling alone would make most girls hesitate, the crying on top of that gives the impression of instability. anger issues or do you just get overwhelmed easily?
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>>19772446
Bumpo?
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>>19773105
I sometimes ghost people. I know it's a shitty thing to do and I try not to do it, but sometimes i do.

I'm very asocial and exhausted and depressed all the time, and sometimes even basic friendship maintenance is just too much.

I would not take it personally. Usually during these times, I may keep in touch with only 1 or 2 friends who I talk to everyday. Everyone else just gets dropped.
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How should I (girl) tell a guy who has Aspergers that I love him? I've been sending him cues for months and he isn't picking up on them.
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Girls, why can't you ever just be up front and make us run circles trying to find your answer for you like it's a game? Is it a fear or anxiety?

How do we know when you're through with us if you won't tell us? Why don't you tell us?

These are oddly specific but they're problems I have with every relationship, so it feels like a girl thing I need to understand
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>>19773117
You tell him. You want the guy, take the initiative. Guys are dumb and have tunnel vision, aspies are worse.
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>>19773041
bump, would really appreciate input
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>>19773127
I've told him everything aside from "I love you", i.e. I've told him how much I appreciate him, how wonderful I think he is, I've sent him gifts, I've arranged my schedule to talk to him, and so on. Now I feel as if he's slipping away. He thinks all of this is just friendship. How do I let him know without sounding like a desperate hack?
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>>19773138
ask him on a date, as not just friends.
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>>19773104
I'm not saying I get mad easily, but when I do I start crying.
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>>19773101
It means he thinks that comment was conceptually degenerate and gross as fuck.like it shows a decided lack of human empathy and decency, and is manipulative to an absurd degree.

It’s one of those tings he hopes is just straight up shitposting, because he hopes no one is so fucked up they *actually* think that way, because it’s too gross to believe it could be true.

For more examples on the same level, see also: the disbelief and then outrage following Trumps “Grab them by the pussy” recording (or basically half the other shit that comes out of his mouth).

>>19773123
Not a chick, but it’s a two way street anon. There’s plenty of guys who’ve done similar. Hell, stick around long enough and you’ll see plenty of posts by ups doin exactly that and plenty of girls who say they feel like they have no idea whether the guy is actually interested or just jerking them around.

You also see *tons* of posts by ups who talk about whether to wait X amount of time, or do Y move to escalate, or blah blah blah like it’s all Some isn’t game that they can manipulate to “win” the girl.

It’s not a girl thing, it’s a human thing. Some people are more forthright than others, many are not, and many have no idea wtf they’re doing so they just do wish washy things.
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>>19773010
>>19773029
>>19773038
I meant more for long term/serious relationships. My ex and I were together for just over a year and we've both been through some shit, she used to cry in front of me and vented her emotions on me, which I was happy with and encouraged. On the other hand I've cried maybe twice in front of her, though I was on the brink a few times. I was wondering if I wasn't supposed to cry at all or should have let it all out even more, basically look like I have emotions or be a steady rock
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>>19772068
Go for it,if you think she is gorgeous,just ask her out bro,i think she likes you man
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>>19773123
it's strategic. it's fucking got to be. not the conscious sort, the instinctual evolutionary sort that you're barely aware of, because if you're conscious of it you either stop yourself from doing it or don't get the urges to at all in the first place. the crazier the broad, the more likely a man who absolutely doesn't deserve her shit is completely and utterly devoted to her. i don't fucking get it.
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>>19773151
Anything else? What if we can't meet in person for the time being?
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>>19773203
ah ok gotcha. look at it from an outside perspective. imagine seeing it on somebody else. we're talking about two displays of emotional expression that people generally associate with a lack of self control on some level. not only that, the emotions they stem from are typically thought of as being at odds with each other, even though everyone knows damn well what it's like to be both sad and angry at the same time. so being outwardly and unmistakably Angry af while simultaneously engaging unexplicably in Sad is bound to send mixed signals. with girls specifically, you can't rely on us not to switch over to intuition and instinct autopilot mode even at the best of times, much less when emotions are running high. if it doesn't come up much i wouldn't worry a ton over it. thinking switches back on once we're calm again usually anyway. and if that's not the case, you'll know it well before this sort of scenario might have a chance to play out. so yes it's a turnoff, yes it'd likely be a good idea to try and get it under control, no don't lose any sleep over it.
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>>19773212
oh. whoops. maybe should've specified that the second post was me asking that in that thread. i meant could you guys shed some light on the first post.
>pussy grabbing comment
but that was melodramatic degenerates feigning buttmad at degeneracy because it was the orange cheetoh man who said it
>For more examples on the same level,
>on the same level
>i sounded enough like those faggots to remind you of them
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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Do guys actually find it attractive when chicks sleep around, or is it a "oh look guess I'll fuck this pussy and move on". I know someone one who is basically a fucktoy and I'm appalled people actually like her and find that trait attractive about her.
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>>19773218
split the difference, lean more heavily toward the "be steady rock" side
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>>19773304
If she's able to sleep around a lot it's probably because she's attractive in the first place. But if the guy knows she sleeps around it's usually a "oh, I can get some good sex with her" kinda thing. It may pull guys in the short term, but most guys think a girl like that isn't really suited for something long term.
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>>19773104
I've been trying to come up with a decent response, but basically every part of my being is telling me not to bother trying, that I'll only succeed 8n making myself more miserable
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Ladies, I'm going after this girl who I had a big crush on years ago in high school. We only got to hang out a few times but I think we had fun, just never really had a chance to pull the trigger then. Fast forward 7 years, she just got out of a 6 year relationship around 6 months ago and I just got out of a 2 year relationship. Her friend tells me she likes some guy that's "garbage" (her words not mine), and I've had a few casual conversations with her over the past couple weeks. Obviously not everyone thinks alike, but do I have a shot here? I'll be patient if need be.
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>>19773111
I could understand if its someone who you werent very close with, but this girl... We were thought to have been a couple by alot. And she even told me that for a time, I took precedence over her best friend... So IDK
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So I'm that guy from a long while ago whose drunk chick friend wanted to fuck and changed her mind when sober.

So she suggested it once again, completely sober. The full story is rather lengthy but more or less we got into a cheeky challenge playing Halo 2 and it ended up with us sending nudes. She suggested it and we talked for a bit, then afterwards in the early hours of the following morning she messaged saying:

'I don't think I can go through with it, my anxiety is playing up.' And more along those lines.

I just reassured her that it's cool and her choice and we'll just move on from that.

So more or less what do? Does she like me or is it just she's getting horny and wants a ride but is unsure if she wants to take that with a good friend?
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>>19773304
Personally I'm put off by it, though that would be an extension of being a social butterfly. I know that just because they sleep around it doesn't mean they're extremely social, but I still feel like that's mostly the case
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>>19773325
then you want to be and stay miserable. not shitposting. not trying to pull some reverse psychology crap. not being passive aggressive. not any of the other things your mind may be jumping to right now in hopes of allowing that comment to be comfortably dismissed. some part of you wants to remain miserable, and currently it's bigger than the part that wants to be not miserable. why? fear? feel like you deserve it? resentment? some certainty or uncertainty maybe? every part of your being is telling you what it's telling you for a reason. if you were to bother trying it would inevitably go down in flames, and by your own hand at that, because whatever's been holding you back all this time still needs resolved. so keep asking why until you identify what it is.
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I get lightheaded almost like I'm gonna faint when I near orgasm when I jerk off. Is this normal?
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>>19773460
not really. you holding your breath without noticing?
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>>19773463
I do have abnormal breathing when I jerk off. Should I try breathing deeply in and out just to make sure it's my breathing and not that I don't have enough blood in my body or something?
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>>19773466
might as well, seems worth a go
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>>19773460
>that retard who does valsalva manuever during cumming

lol!
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Hola ladies, I have a case for you, and I'm eager in hearing your advice. Long one but would really dig it if you took the time to read/listen.

This girl and I met in October through Tinder. We hit it off pretty great, went on dates, yadda yadda, but then she told me her father was very ill. At the same time, I was already lining up a 5 month job as a scuba instructor in Costa Rica. Her father passed away in December last year, but we continued dating in January, and really, we only started to get to know each other in the weeks before I left. I left beginning of February and only came back last week.

In the meantime we kept contact pretty much every day but along the course of the 5 months that dwindled down and got less (she got an internship, besides still, y'know, dealing with the passing of her dad). Same with me, I got through to instructing more and travelling afterwards. Either way, I always found it tough to realize that we were 'only just dating'.

We saw each other again last Saturday and she stated a couple of things: 1) Yes she wants to keep seeing us, but in a quite slow manner. 2) She often felt a bit stuffy in our communication when I was abroad, to which I replied I was sorry for that and that was not right. 3) She stated that, in a way of showing things, I would be more in love with her than she would be with me, and that's kind of been reaffirmed.

Either way, we talked through these things, we made out, and we had some awesome sex again and talked afterwards. Coming Sunday she's going on a vacation with her mother and brother, which I think she definitely deserves. The point is that I am, even after Saturday, still looking for reaffirmation. The fact that she's been very busy these 5 months as well, and taking everything into account. But it's been very different coming back. We don't talk as much anymore as we did when we started to get to know each other.

Am I worrying too much, and should I just let it be for a while? What should I do?
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>>19773345
I'm no mind reader, so take this with a grain of salt, but I think she wants to fuck, but it worried about it ruining the friendship. She might also like you romantically, but holds back for the same reason, or she might not.
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ex wants to hang out next week and go to the beach but im confused by his behavior
one minute he claims we're just friends and next minute hes telling me our friendship will blossom into love over time
if i ask him how he feels about me he'll swear up and down hes lost all feelings but still feels the need to "hang out" with me aka he does the same exact things we did on a date
he says he wants to wait and see what happens, do i trust him and spend time together? im tired of the mind games he plays
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>>19773460
Yes.
It is a good sleeping aid.
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>>19773460
I get that but I'm a grill. Most of what I've heard about the male orgasm leads me to believe it's not usually that way for guys.
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>>19772623
I think its cute
>tfw no female would do this with my clothes

Incels wwu
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>>19772875
Eh
I rather see you say what you think instead of being all hidden inside and saying "nothing" whenever i ask whats wrong.

Also depends how you worded it but it could weird some guys out (especially if he just cared for you because you provide warm slit between legs and nothing else), not saying this is the case

Secondly, saying what you think is not bad, but constant nagging and being negative gets boring REAL fast, so brighten up a little and start smiling more.

That comes from guy that was dealing with massive depression with people constantly asking me whats wrong and why im so angry (i wasnt it was just my resting bitch face) and now they ask me what happened that im smiling so much / laughing / being energetic.

Many things changed in my life
>tfw no gf
is as strong as ever but at least i realize im in much better spot than i could be.
and people pick up on positive energy real quick.

As long you arent acting very unreasonable due to emotions you should be fine
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>>19773539
It's what I'm thinking. But I admittedly don't know how to approach, I'd give her my heart and soul if she wanted it.

She let's her anxiety control her way too much :/
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Stupid virgin question: does a man's income/job matter to most women, or is it only a big thing for gold diggers?
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>>19772003
Linguisitics only if you’re going to have a steady job as a translator, so the military for example. Otherwise neither.
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>tfw 18 year old virgin
>really curious about sex
>don’t actually want to lose virginity before I’m married or at least with a long term bf who I trust
>can’t just buy a toy because still live with parents
Fug what do, just touch myself until the dirty thoughts go away?
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>>19773608
Depends. You don't have to be rich per se for women who aren't gold diggers, but you should have your shit together. Nobody wants to build a relationship/family with a penniless NEET.
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>>19773608
Look niggy, chicks don’t dig poorfags unless they really like them, dig? And by poorfag I mean poorfag, if you can afford your own apartment then you solid.
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I feel like I know and understand everything there is about emotions, relationships, sex, and people.

So guys what are some things you never see on those "what do you wish men/women knew about ____?" or whatever that you feel you want to share, even something really peculiar or unique. I want to feel like I have learned about as many kinds of people as possible.
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I had a girl who was going to come over (tinder) I asked her about something to do with the meet and I got no reply for 3 hours so I ended up cancelling mentioning how we could hang out another day. She replied back 'okay' then 20 minutes later 'I'm not fussed :)' now I'm thinking the I'm not fussed response was a delayed text that was in response to my text 3 hours prior. Could it be that (my phone glitching) or is the I'm not fussed about hanging out another day
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>>19773633
Just buy a toy you're a grown woman and no sane parent would give a shit.

Also not a girl but I seriously doubt a dildo is anything like real sex, especially for someone like you who wants it to be special, as the emotional connection contributes significantly, even for guys.
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>>19771471
Do women look at possible relationships as doomed to fail instead of giving it a chance?
Also why dont women try to take the initiative more when it comes to dating? There are few, but very few.
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On the news there was a minute or two in which they talked about stds and they said that the average age of the first sexual encounter was about 13-14 years. Is it over for me? Be honest can women smell it from a mile away?

There was this time when somebody said "I bet you have never even kissed some one" guess women can smell it from a mile away.
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>>19771471
Can ladies just admit they treat men like emotional toys, and why cant they admit they have a pretty good life compaired to men and when being independant isnt as cracked up to be they blame men for it?
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>>19773666
Women don't hate inexperience, they hate insecurity
t. inexperienced guy
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My expectations - A longterm relationship - Not really looking for friends Anyways I asked her out, here's her reply for verbatim

>I wouldn't mind going with you but I don't want to call it a date... I'd like to start out as friends first and we can see how it goes from there

Her saying "I wouldn't mind going with you" is sort of a red flag, sort of like "I don't care who I go with". Which is sad to me, because I want the person I'm going with to care about me going with them. I feel like because our expectations our different, it wouldn't go well.
I feel like if she's not really welcome to the idea of me I shouldn't go. Any thoughts? She's new to the city and doesn't really have any friends. If anything she should go with someone who'd be happy to be her friend, it's tinder anyways, she has a ton of matches right?
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>>19773671
You're actually an idiot.

Do you know how most people get into relationships? They spend lots of time around someone they have a special connection with.

What this girl is saying is that she likes you enough to see if there's anything there, but calling it a date implies that you are dating and you would expect her to behave like you're dating and she's not interested in that, with you, at this point.

Go out with her and spend some time together, see if there's anything between you. Not everything in relationships has to be all or nothing like in your chinese cartoons. You wouldn't confess to a girl in real life, so you also don't need to go straight to dating a girl.
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>>19773666
Its not over, you just have to pretend you have had sex.
Women are liars most of the time. Dont get me wrong though there are good honest girls out there but if ever a woman says she is a good person, she is lying.
Also dont try so hard. Women dont like it when a guy tries too hard, you dont have to put so much effort in proving who you are as a person. So in the battle of fucking, lie. Lie right back to them, they dont want honesty because they know just like men they are also pieces of shit.
I hate that this is the norm, but it is.
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>>19773680
Are you? Do you really think saying "lets be friends first" is a good thing? Ever hear of the friendzone? This woman doomed the relationship from the start. If you keep things simple you get the outcome you want. Making things more complicated just to protect her feelings first. If there is a special comnection then fucking treat it like one.
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>>19773651
It’s more I would die from embarassment if anyone ever saw it tbqh. Yeah I guess you’re right though, fingers it is for now.
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>>19773514
Bump
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>>19773608
I think the job matters because it says a lot about the person.
Now the income is more interesting, it is much more dependent on the culture.
Gold diggers usually don't care about a stable financial situation as much as they want expensive things.
Detecting a gold digger is usually easy to spot.
She wants things she couldn't afford herself.
She gets upset or confused over the fact that it is too expensive.
She points to things she wants, talks about friends who got things she can't have, basically acting like a child when it comes to money.
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>>19773671
It sounds like she's saying that she doesn't see you as relationship material but you may have demonstrated something that she considers to be of value for someone that wants to be in a serious relationship.

So, let's say you're a very timid and soft spoken, but you rose to the occasion in lecture when an asshole was talking too loud and you told him to shut the fuck up. Or there were people on the bus listening to audio on their speakerphone and you sternly told them to use headphones. Or the way you asked her out showed dominance and potential. Maybe she initially thought of you as some limp wristed manchild, but with recent events, has decided to rethink her opinion of you.
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I have one
>b me, 22 male
>dated a chick a few months ago, super awesome we really loved eachother, but long distance (seen eachother once a month)
>she had some personal shit going on so it was super hard on her
>she ends up screwing me over, we break up
>she starts speaking with me again saying I'm awesome and that I don't deserve that
>said she couldn't probably look me in the eye if we made up, so it's better the way it is
>so here I am, chatting with her every day, I'm fucked up, she is fucked up, but that is it, just cahat
wtf do I do, and trust me this girl is worth the fight, but I have no idea wtf is going on
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>horny chick messages me, asks for dick pic in exchange for tit pic
>you first
>turns out to be legit (prolly), sends me two pictures instead of one
>surprised
>forgot I just fapped earlier
>balls still empty
>now way too late to message back without looking dumb
Oh well, at least I got tits from it for later I guess.
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Guy here, I'm seeing this girl right now, she's an angel both in looks and personality and very understanding and sweet and kind, but i'm a virgin, i've had several girlfriends but i left them because i found out that they all already had boyfriends midway through the relationship (one of them even had a fiance that I didn't know about) and i would found this out myself from their friends talking to me, i didn't realize i was the male equilvalent of a homewrecker so i left them seeing as how i cannot condone that type of behavior it made me feel sick to think that some women were willing to risk a relationship just to get with me. I just want to know would a women not want to stay in a relationship with me knowing i'm a virgin, knowing all of this about me?

I'm planning on telling her all of this next time I meet, I really do love this girl, but would she leave me or would she accept me for who i am, i really am scared about this? Can anyone help me with this, what should i do if she doesnt accept me? Can anyone consult me on this?
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>>19772279
Not much debt, I’m not American
>>19773619
There’s specific education to become a translator
I was thinking maybe computational linguistics could be interesting
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>>19773304
Shes only attractive in pump and dump way then

No self respecting man would wife a woman who has reputation around the block
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>>19773698
More interesting to me is why you dont have long term partner already


Inb4 pls be in U D E N
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>>19773759
As a fellow virgin
Dont tell her till afterwards
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are chubby guys completely unattractive?
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>>19773777

I guess I won't since you got trips and being that they are 7's i take that as a sign from above, but afterwards what exactly? Sex? I think she may be a virgin as well after getting to know her?
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>>19773779
Completely, no. Anecdotal evidence my fat buddy gets tail on tinder ez and is fat, but has good face.
Im tall and decent fit body and im khhv despite having plenty of fem attention because autism
So in the end its your personality.
can you improve a lot by losing weight?
yes!
is it hard to lose weight? No!
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>>19773799
>shes virgin
Ill give it benefit of doubt. She probably had more dicks in her face than you realize.
And if she didnt, then what the fuck is that a problem, take it really slowly, enjoy process of learning each other and stuff?

Just virgin thoughts
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>>19773801
well, I don't want to sound like one of those fat bitches on whom us 4chan users have picked on earlier this year, but it is hard. It's different for everyone, for me t's like diet and gym for a week, and I keep getting more and more depressed untill I'm at a point where my mindset is like fuck this, and fuck every single person who makes me torture myself just to look apealing and then I quit everything. Takes me another month to start hating myself for the way I look, and start the whole process all over again.
I mean it's not that I'm a whale, but it still bothers me, and please don't say it's easy.
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>>19773906
You know men do the exact same things tp guys and they dont see any issue over it. I know its not easy, i am dieting and excersizing 6 days a week. I have arthritis and I am in agoney when i am done excersizing just so women lile you will notice me and treat me like a human being. You already have a lot going for you, you got guys asking you out more then women asking me out. A LOT MORE, but still you want tall dark and handsome. You wanna tell me how thats fair? You wanna tell me how men are more protective pf your well being than a woman is on my feelings? You want to tell me how I cant be the one because I shouldnt have to try but when I dont girls like you say "you didnt try hard enough"

You want to know what women's problem is? They want everything for nothing, they expect empathy only to give none back in return.
You want us tp believe your lies but you never listen to the truth. Women are spoiled so much they never show compassion any more unless its for the handsome dude. Women do the same fucking shit men do and wont admit it.

What women want is control over their drones. They manipulate to hurt people before they might get hurt. This is why I am done trying to help women feel better, you dont care about men, you care about getting attention.
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>>19773906
Youtube snake diet
Results talk bullshit walks
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>>19773633
That's what the rest of us do too, yes.




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