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GUIDELINES:
Before you post a question, check the FAQ to see if it's already been answered.
Keep questions short for more answers.
If you're not going to like honest answers, don't ask your question.
And please no derailing arguments.

FAQ:
>Do girls/guys like <insert specific look>?
>What do girls/guys think about <an insecurity including, but not limited to: looks, physical traits, personality traits, virginity or otherwise lack of dating experience>
There is no one answer. Preferences differ, but complexes are always a turn-off.

>I'm shy and afraid of people/rejection. What do I do?
Get over it by practising and exposing yourself to it, little by little, step by step. There is no single magical moment that will instantly change you forever.

>I like someone. What do I do?
>How can I tell if someone likes me?
Ask them out.

>Where do I meet girls/guys?
Anywhere outside. Or online.

>Someone did something insignificant. What does it mean?
Nothing significant. You're overthinking it.

>XYZ happened. Interpret this for me please
We're not in their head, we don't know.

>This person did something that hurt my feelings. Why do guys/girls do this?
Because shit people are shit people. It's not a gendered thing.

>Someone has made it super clear they're no longer interested in me. Do I still have a chance?
No.

>Where do I go on a first (or subsequent) date?
Pick one or more of the following: coffee, lunch, dinner, drinks, ice cream, movies, zoo, aquarium, museum, art gallery, <activity in your city>.

>Why is there no new thread?
Create one yourself.

>Why am I the only one who makes these threads?
Quit your bitching, no one's holding a gun to your head and making you do it.

>is my dick too short?
no
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Girls,

I'm inviting a friend to my place, there's a good chance for a pure ONS. Is it important how I dress for that? or is it enough that I wear something casual?
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>>20020477
As long as your clothes are clean and have a good fit, no worries. It's just a ONS after all.
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>>20020485
I mean, I still have to convince her.
it won't be too hard though
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There is this girl in my class that I've hooked up with a few times. We have great conversations in person. I want to text her more, but I'm an awful texter. I can never keep conversations going. Sometimes I ignore texts. I never know what to say.

How do I start a conversation and keep one going with a girl through text?
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>>20020506
It won;t seem genuine if you try to text her. Just don't and chat when you meet up instead.
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>girl at work randomly starts crying in front of me
da fuq she mean by this, what do you even do in that situation?
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>>20020536
But many people have conversations through text.
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>>20020583
she's probably just fucking unstable, don't look too much into it
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Woman in my gym is doing squats with a 5 lb weight right in front of the only deadlift platform though she can do them ANYWHERE
This is the last lift I have to do today.
Is it rude to just go there?
I'm not trying to perv I just want to stick to my routine
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A girl I like asked if I could come to her place tonight.

I have a lot of stuff to get done, so I don't want to tonight, but I definitely would another night.

What excuse can I make to not see her tonight? I don't want to say I'm not free as I don't want her to think I'm out seeing another girl or something
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>>20020695
just tell her the truth?
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>>20020699
Probably best idea. Sometimes I'm weird about this stuff since my ex had bpd and would constantly go into fits of rage when I'd tell her I can't hang out.
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>>20020704
yeah, don't learn human interaction with crazy people
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>>20020641
nah, people go to the gym to work out, I wouldn't think anything of it.
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Do women like monsterboy
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>>20020631
But what do if it happens again? I didn't know how to act at all.
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>>20020583
>>20020718
I guarantee you she is focusing more on having cried at work than how you responded. I would just get her a cup of water, maybe a shoulder pat (not as a bro-thing though, just gently touching her shoulder for a moment) if you're comfortable with that, then tell her you'll give her some space.

This is assuming it was out of nowhere and not in response to something you said (e.g. criticism on her work), then it's better to at least offer to talk.
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>>20020760
No, I went to get a cup of coffee and she was crying when I came back, babbled some stuff about her boyfriend. I asked her if she wanted to talk about it, but she said she was fine.
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>>20020771
so why the hell do you even ask us? you know perfectly well why was she crying.
and if it happens again, just let her be
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>>20020506
>>20020620
There isn't really a cheatcode, it's something you like/have affinity with or not. Usually text conversations rely more on silly little jokes, observations, acting goofy together. It's something you might learn over time but you can't just flip a switch and there's no way around practice.

I would mostly text her that you're not great/not a big fan of texting and apologies if you don't reply to something, it's not personal. Preferably after you catch yourself not replying to something of hers, or even better, in person. Then at least you made your point, she might still miss texting but it helps with potential miscommunication. If she's into you she's likely to read more into you not replying to texts.
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>>20020777
It came out of nowhere, at work, while working. It was weird. Just needed some tips on how to act.
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>>20020784
People don't turn into emotionless robots while at work. She cried at work because whatever made her cry regarding her boyfriend happened during work, or she thought about it then. Simple as that.
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>>20020771
>>20020784
If you've asked her to talk and she doesn't want to you can ask her if she wants a glass of water or to take a breather or whatever (depending on how willing you are and how serious it looks) but otherwise that's about it. She's probably long glad if you "act normal", if you are going overboard with acting a certain way because she was crying that only reinforces that she did something really weird. And yeah it's not exactly professional behavior but employees are still people, it can happen.
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>>20020792
Ok, I'll keep it in mind if it happens again. Thanks lad.
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>>20020717
yes
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This is kind of a general question but does anyone feel like there are some smart people who aren't really anything special intellectually but are just great at studying?
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>>20020864
Not uncommon at all.
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Dear fat people,
JUST STOP EATING! FOR FUCK'S SAKE!
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>>20020864
Yeah, sure. Both people who are not that bright but make up for it with work ethic and people who are bright and understand things faster than others but lack the intelligence (or intellectual creativity or however you would define it) to actually add to the theories they learn about.
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>>20020884
Really edgy, anon.
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>>20020864
Of course. And just because you're smart or get good grades, doesn't mean you'd be a good doctor, lawyer, engineer etc. either.
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>>20020892
Don't you get annoyed when they block the entire passage?
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>>20020921
I don't live in America so I can't say I've experienced that.
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So I've been asking some questions recently and to my surprise it seems that KHVs generally wish to hold their virginity even if they were PAID to lose it.
why is that?
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>>20020921
I don't love seeing morbidly obese people but the discomfort of them taking up two chairs or whatever is incomparable to how shit their life is dealing with an issue that gives them major social stigma, huge health risks, and can't be hidden even for a moment to have a five minute break to feel like everyone else.
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>>20020931
Because some people are sentient enough to understand that sex is not about physical stimulation but existential validation.
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>>20020942
>sex is not about physical stimulation
ok, I can agree with that, at least to some degree
>but existential validation.
with this however, I can't

also, keep in mind that there's a lot of people in those threads who just want to have sex, or so they claim.
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>>20020809
What kind?
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>>20020994
>also, keep in mind that there's a lot of people in those threads who just want to have sex, or so they claim.
What they mean when they say they "want to have sex" is that they want to be desired. Sex is, beyond the physical act itself proof that your DNA has a reason to exist and continue to do so.
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Me and this girl I'm friends with go to different colleges and she's on their xc team, they're coming to my college for a meet and I told her I'd like to go watch her, she said something along the lines of "you don't have to come, it's not a big deal." Is she trying to steer me away?
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>Be at work
>Eating lunch at food court
>Girl fine as *hell* sits at the table next to me
>GodDAMN I'd tap that
>BF comes
>Oh...
>From the corner of my eye see that they eat it total silence, not even looking at each other, but at phones
>Girl tries to start convo thrice, dude just mumbles and stops replying
>Eventually they leave

That was the most awkward depressing shit I've seen in some time, is that what I have to look forward to? Oh also she looked at me twice, I think I got caught checking her out.
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>>20020864
I'm struggling with this kinda, doing japanese lessons on duolingo and I've been repeating hiragana 1 for a week because I want to get to the point where I actually know it and I'm not going off of memory.

It's been a week and I'm still being carried by memory, it's a little frustrating.
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Why do girls close their eyes during sex?

I've noticed this in amateur porn as well as irl.
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>>20021808
Don't worry about it too much. Once you start doing flashcards you'll know hiragana like the back of your hand.
Katakana, on the other hand, still takes me a second to read even though I've been studying for years.
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I have my first date in over a year (and I think my third date ever) tomorrow. Is it weird that I'm more nervous about it going well than in not going well? Like if it doesn't work out then oh well, I'm out the few dollars it cost for coffee but at least I got out of the house. It it goes well though, she might wanna see me again, and I'm not really experienced in that situation.
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>>20020477
your chances will be improved by wearing something vaguely nice for the first time. i have planned to have sex with a guy but lost all attraction for him when he came over in basketball shorts, slides, and wet hair. not a fan.
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>>20020931
they arent better than anyone else unlike >20020994 says. they cant get sex, so they "transcend" the need for sex by using their hands every day. they do it for so long that they convince themselves that girls are evil and vaginas are capitalism.
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>>20021811
im usually imagining that im with someone else. also some guys that like power will try to look you in your eyes the entire time and it can be awkward for some people.
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>>20021793
This happena I guess. Either he was in a bad mood or simply a bad partner. These girls are the usually to cheat, have a boyfriend that ignores them and doesnt pay enough attention.
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>>20020463
If you are men pretending to be women, wouldn’t you fail in pretending to be women if you respond to questions directed to men?
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how the fuck can a guy go from telling me his sexual fantasies of me in explicit detail one night to treating me like a platonic friend the next? please explain.
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>>20021842
>im usually imagining that im with someone else
W H O R E !
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>>20021932
lmao. k.
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>>20021840
No. The guy you're replying to is the anon that keeps asking if khv anons would have sex with an elderly man for money. He's just being retarded.
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>>20021073
You might be a lesbian.
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>>20021811
Sometimes I like to just close my eyes and enjoy the physical sensations.

I also almost always have my eyes closed if I'm drunk while having sex. Sensory overload on my inebriated mind.

>>20021818
That's a very common thing. Not weird at all, but definitely something you should push past. Comes with fear of commitment and all that jazz.
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Should I “chase” a woman or not?
Is this even healthy? I normally don’t do this, since I think I will become an orbiter, but some days we really hit it off, and others it’s like she’s fucking upset, last time this shit happened I did confront her, since I thought I did something, she said I didnt.
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>>20021903
How did you respond to him telling you those fantasies?
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>>20020864
For sure. I also know extremely intelligent people who are useless at studying.
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Anyone:
Is there some way to make my girlfriend more horny? She recently started taking meds that kill libido...

We have only fucked twice and have been bf-gf for nearly a month.
Last night she was over at my apt and we were on my bed kissing and such, she saw my boner and pre-cum coming through my shorts. She didnt want to fuck so I asked her to help me out and jerk me off and she said she wasn't in the mood and that it was weird.
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>>20021582
Update, I said something like "i'd like to go though, but I'd understand if you didn't want me to." She replied with "I just get nervous when people I know are watching me"
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>>20022273
Just ask her out instead.
>that's okay I know what you mean, did you want to do something afterward then?

Except don't say something, give a more concrete activity.
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Women: What are some of the things you're surprised men are commonly into?
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>girl I'm going out with didn't actually like me and just friendzoned me
>again

What's wrong with me? Why I can I get one on one outings with girls but never get one to see me as anything more? How do you deal with the pain?
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>>20022404
Are you boring af in a romantic setting? Do you escalate?
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>>20022308
That wouldn't really work of she's with a team if assume she is coming here on a team bus and leaves for home soon after their meet finishes. No real chance for another activity
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>>20022057
I’d say I was neutral and non judgemental when he was telling me. I have feelings for him but he’s dating another girl right now so I felt like it wouldn’t be right to come across overly interested. I just can’t understand what would even make him want to tell me in the first place. He even told me he thinks about me asking him to cum inside me every time he jerks off. WTF am I supposed to do with this knowledge? How does he expect us to just be friends now that I know that?
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Any femanons here? PLEASE just talk with me.
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>>20022432
i’m a femanon. hi.
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>>20022411
I don't think I've ever been in a romantic setting, and I don't know how to escalate. I always keep things incredibly casual.
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>girl asks guy out
>”only see you as a friend”, „you deserve better” etc.
>girl asks out someone else
>guy becomes bitter and resentful
Men, why does this happen so often? When I reject someone I couldnt give less of a fuck if they start seeing someone else.
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>>20022436
R-really? Hello.
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>>20022404
A whole bunch of women don't actually like the idea of being in relationships and instead want to be woo'd and dated the the whole thing. You gotta proverbial juggle for them and occasionally backflip if you want to keep a relationship with one of those. Or you could realise that women like that are all kinds of entitled and try to find a woman that sees the romance in not having to impress one another anymore and that just living life together is awesome. They are actually pretty common, just not in the places you may be looking.
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>>20022460
Where to look them for?
Another Anon
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>>20022444
how are you? :)
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>>20022470
Fuck man. I don't know. I just got really lucky and found a group of brilliant people. I think it might honestly be a maturity thing. Avoid dating spots like bars and tinder and make some friends. Romance needs to not be your goal if you want a relationship built on a strong emotional bond: friendship and honestly caring about one another is. Stop looking for a girlfriend and just go out and try to meet people you enjoy spending time with. That's the path to having cozy Saturdays snuggling in bed. You'll still do romantic juggly shit but it's not because you're expected to to stop her from getting bored. Honestly it's pretty cash.
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>>20022476
Can i throat fuck you?
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>>20022038
Just ask if there’s something wrong, maybe it’s not with you.
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>>20022487
i’m fat so you probably wouldn’t really want to but i wish you the best of luck
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I don't think I respect women at all, I think I just want to have sex with them, and that's about it.

Is this how most guys feel?
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>>20022493
Just want to hop in here to remind people that how you carry your weight and how pretty your face is is generally more important than specifically how much there is. Within reason.
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>>20022476
Not in a greatest mood, actually. I'm desperate and sad and it was a trips, just look how much I want to talk with you :p Just tell me about your day, about your concerns, won't your bf be upset that we're talking? Thank you for your reply and for that you're not baiting.
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>>20022504
I don't. You got shit you gotta work on. People don't really work in collectives like that.
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>>20022486
Thanks alot.
But people don't seems to like being around my company.
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>>20022441
How have you never been in a romantic setting if you've been on dates?
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>>20022487
very funny, Anon, right.
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>>20022504
nope
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>>20022504
Nah
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redpill me on Kosovan women
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>>20022510
sorry to hear that anon! i just spent almost all day playing video games. and i have no boyfriend so he won’t care. :)
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So I met a girl that just completely blew me away, super hot, cute, great character - she'd be the ideal gf if she wasn't taken. Well, we were hanging out and she came upstairs to my room after her bf had left. That's when she confessed how much she's into me and we started kissing.
She got wet eyes and apologized to me "I'm sorry, I can't do this to him"
I told her I don't want to be the reason they're breaking up, that I'd be there for her if they did, that finding someone else while you're in a relationship is just part of life and that we should probably go back downstairs before this escalated. So we did, and with a long drawn out kiss she wished me good night.

Her bf most likely saw us holding hands earlier and a bunch of other people saw us going to my apartment together.

What's my best course of action here? Just sit back and wait?
I can't really distance myself either since she's some sort of mentor in my college program, we have a big overlap in social circles and it'd look weird/suspicious after we got along so well before.
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>>20022562
Cool! What type of vidiya they were? :) How far did you get? Oh, and I'm sure your future bf already jealos. Gamer girls = cuties.
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>>20022430
I would take him at face value and think that he does really want to fuck you, and thought that you wanted the same thing. When you (understandably) didn't know how to react, he took that as a bad sign and wants to basically pretend it didn't happen. But men and women are both complicated, so this is a guess at best. You should definitely talk to him about it, because a guy telling his girl friend that he fantasizes about her when masturbating is definitely not something a purely platonic friend would do.
>>20022443
Does it really happen that often? I guess some insecure guys might do this because they really did like the girl but weren't confident enough to really go after her.
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>>20022443
I've never been or seen that situation personally but if the time between the turndown was short I'd feel like I made the right choice in turning her down: She wasn't really interested in me, personally, but rather the idea of a guy she could get along with. Actual relationships take time to develop, numbers-game is for chumps, I could see the friend-zoning to be a "not yet" rather than a "no" but why they wouldn't say not yet is beyond me. Those are the only reasons I could see for losing respect in a girl in that situation.
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>>20022584
Wait, be there for her as a friend, respect her boundaries but also make it clear you’re interested in her as more than friends. I’m a girl but in the exact same situation as you. Perfect guy, he’s into me too, but he’s not single. I’m taking my own advice and waiting for him. He’s asked me not to because he feels bad but I’m content to wait until they either break up or I find someone that can make me forget about him.
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>>20022584
Be super careful about jumping into a relationship with her, assuming she does end it with the bf. There's a come-down period after a break up and you will be a resented rebound if she dumps him one day and picks you up the next. Wait at least a few weeks before you start going on serious dates.
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>>20022584
>I told her I don't want to be the reason they're breaking up
FUCK that. It's one thing to break up a relationship because you want the girl, but if you want the girl and she wants you back? You're SAVING the guy from a loveless relationship.
I mean, she was right to stop when she did. Cheating is a bitch move, which is why she should let the guy know what's up, end the relationship, and then get together with you.
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How to react to complements?
These are the ones most common for me:
>you have pretty green eyes
>you hair is so good and pretty
>you have a handsome face
>you have a cool custom
>you're so smart
[Spoiler] >you dick is so big and massive [/spoiler/]

I think these things are actually true and i normally ignore and pretend that nothing happenend.
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Tips on meeting the parents of your boyfriend? They're from another city, so me and my boyfriend are gonna drive and stay there for 3 days. We've been together for 8 months now.

I'm asking because his parents are a bit...unstable to say the least, especially the mother. To be honest I don't understand how they're even talking to eachother anymore, after what my bf said about his childhood and how they're talking to him on the phone. Anyway, it's his problem and I don't want to interfere there, but I'm wondering if any of you have a situation loke this? How do you navigate the meeting so that everything goes ok/any tips on how to act? I'm a pretty anxious person and I already dread meeting them. They're very conflictual people, like 8 in 10 phone calls they start yelling at him for some really dumb, insignificant shit.
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>>20022735
>i normally ignore and pretend that nothing happenend
That's kind of rude.
You should at least thank them.
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>>20022520
Like I said, ver casual? I talk about all kinds of things with my dates but desu it's not much different from how I treat male friends.
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>>20022370
Anal.

So many guys have admitted to want to do anal. Even at the company Friday bar, people talked about it.

I don't get the appeal, but I guess I dont have the equipment to utilize a butthole. Just seems weird for straight dudes, and makes me wonder why they don't just go for other men. You'd think that would be easier than trying to date a girl long enough for her to be okay with this.
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>>20022130
>She didnt want to fuck so I asked her to help me out and jerk me off and she said she wasn't in the mood and that it was weird.
Bitch.

Seriously, that is something you should seriously talk about. I am asexual (never gets wet no matter what I do, sex is never good for me, and always uncomfortable), and I am never horny, ever. I am still dating a guy, and I help him get off whenever he wants to. Not being in the mood yourself, is no excuse to not helping your SO get off.

It doesn't take much to give you a quick handjob/blowjob, especially if you are already on a bed and kissing. That's seriously a bitch move from her part.
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>>20022742
80% of the times but ifeel really strange.
For looks is okay, but for skills,things and my dick is strange.
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>>20022747
>makes me wonder why they don't just go for other men
Men have feet, too. Men with foot fetishes aren't necessarily attracted to mens' feet, though.
A hole isn't just a hole.
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>>20022745
That's probably why it never develops then.
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>>20022757
Feet are vastly different to look at, at least. Same with hands.

I thought it was more about the whole package being important, at least. Still seems a bit odd, but hey, I'm not judging.
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>>20022754
>I am asexual
No such thing.

I agree with the bitch statement, but this sounds like an excuse due to trauma or just bad experiences with sex.
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>>20022762
>I thought it was more about the whole package being important
That was kind of my point, that men who want anal don't just go for other men because it's not just about it being a butthole, it's about it being a girl's butthole.
Also, there are women who enjoy anal as well.
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>>20022130
>>20022754
Different anon and I completely disagree. Yes, it's an issue to talk about, but if you're 100% asexual you probably don't get what it's like for a sexual person to be sexual with someone while not in the mood. Giving a handjob or blowjob isn't just a bland favour like making someone a cup of coffee, it's something that's really enjoyable and bonding, and doing it when you're not in the mood is fucking miserable.
Again, yes it's an issue, and his girl should work on trying to GET in the mood when she's not (and equally he should work on getting her there instead of just asking for a one-sided favour), but just doing shit you're not enjoying as a favour is no way to remedy the situation. It'll probably just make her feel resigned to not feeling sexual, and make her question the sexual compatibility/mutual respect of the relationship.

As for how to actually get her in the mood, that's probably mostly a discussion between you and your girl, OP, it's gonna be pretty specific to the individual.
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>>20022747
If you had to look at his asshole when he fucks you, you'd probably develop associations too. (I can smell it a lot of the time when hitting it from behind too but I have a sensitive sense of smell.)
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>>20022766
Definitely not.

I cannot get myself off, toys doesn't help. I've been with 2 girls, and got no reaction. I've been with 2 guys before this, no reaction from me. Only penetration that is really easy to do with me, is anal, and it just feels weird, neither pleasurable or good in any way.

My current boyfriend knew all this though, long before we even started dating. We were good friends and he insisted he wanted to live his life with me. turned him down several times over a year, but he was very persistent, despite the fact that PiV sex likely would never be on the table barring a few specific reasons (like pregnancy).

We rarely do anal, just because he sometimes wants to "smash me properly", but usually he is more than happy with a good blowjob. And considering how quick and easy and clean that is, I don't see the problem. Very little effort from my side, can be done anywhere, and leaves no mess if I don't want it to, and I don't need to undress at all. I seriously don't get why some girls refuse to do this.
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>>20022776
>it's something that's really enjoyable and bonding, and doing it when you're not in the mood is fucking miserable.
...so it's fine for him to be put in the mood by them kissing on the bed, but she shouldn't get be him a hand, because then she would feel miserable because... Why, exactly? Horny herself all of a sudden?

If you as a girl purposely give the hint that sex or more might be on the table (kissing on the bed is definitely that), you are an asshole if you leave him hanging. Stop being a selfish bitch with this "if I can't have it, no one can!" Mentality
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lol how am I supposed to find anyone if I'm too mean? apparently I come off as an asshole to people, or they get the vibe I joke around too much. I have resting doucheface constantly, too. Honestly though, I'm not, or at least I don't think I am. I'm sarcastic, but I'm not, like, confrontational or standoffish.
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>>20022786
Kissing is kissing, it's not a promise for anything. And we don't know the situation, maybe she would have gotten in more in the mood if he'd taken it slower, or discussed it further, or asked in a way that didn't make her feel weird about it.
What's the alternative, she goes from having a low libido to not even kissing her fucking boyfriend because she "doesn't want him to get the wrong idea"?

>Horny herself all of a sudden?
Fucking what?
Please, just don't discuss sex, you clearly have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

>Stop being a selfish bitch with this "if I can't have it, no one can!" Mentality
Again, fucking what? How is she automatically the selfish one, and he's not selfish for wanting one-sided sex from someone uninterested? I'm not saying he WAS being selfish, but they're both on equal footing, they just wanted different things in the moment and couldn't figure it a workable compromise.

The fucking gall to condemn a stranger's entire character over one spontaneous issue that couldn't be resolved right then and there, holy over reaction. 'Asexual,' you sound like a frustrated incel.
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>>20022776
Yo if you're good for anal, why not do lubed up vaginal?
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>>20022782
>blowjob
>quick and easy and clean
>Very little effort

I'm not convinced you know what a blowjob is
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>>20022776
>Giving a handjob or blowjob isn't just a bland favour like making someone a cup of coffee, it's something that's really enjoyable and bonding
I know. I feel the exact same way. It's enjoyable because I am making a guy I really like happy, and the bonding part is obvious.

I said I was asexual, not that I was emotionless. I really do like the guy, dare I even say I love him. I just don't feel sexual desires. That doesn't mean sex is just "making coffee" bland. It's still an intimate act, I do specifically because it's him. I wouldn't do this with anybody else.

Why would it make you miserable to make your boyfriend happy with a simple act like this? If you're already cudling and kissing, then a hand/blowjob seems pretty appropriate to throw in as well. It's not like it's an out of nowhere "yo suck my dick bitch" command, you are already getting hit and bothered. And if you aren't in the mood, it sounds really selfish to just say "nah, I don't want anything, so you can't have it either".

Not being in the mood is no excuse. Of course anybody is in their full right to say "I don't want to do anything today", but if they becomes a recurring thing, and one person is responsible for a dead sex life like this, I'd actually say he should outrght dump her. Then she isn't in it for him, and would be better off as friends.
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>>20022130
Did you know ahead fo time that she didn't want to fuck, or did she make it clear in the moment? Did you try to progress things and get her in the mood before accepting it and settling for a handjob? Did you persist after she said it sounded weird, to try and make her comfortable with it or did you give up right away?
Does her low libido bother her, or just you? Does she feel bad about not being able to perform, or does she act like your advances are just a (proverbial) pain in the ass? How long is she going to be on these meds, and is it for any condition that'd be distractingly stressful/unsexy?
Also if she only started taking them recently, and you've only fucked twice altogether, it doesn't sound like she was particularly sexual to begin with.
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>>20022795
You're a girl, aren't you?
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Boys and girls, what is the proper way to act when someone you don’t really know starts showing you affection in public?

Last weekend I went out to meet with friends and there was this guy I haven’t seen in like 3 years. I approached him to say hi, long time no see etc. The moment he saw me he gave me a big hug, then picked me up and carried around for a minute or so. I don’t hate the guy or anything but I really had no idea how to react, so I just froze.
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>>20022809
>you are already getting hit and bothered.
Obviously not if she's got no libido, dingus.

>"nah, I don't want anything, so you can't have it either".
He's free to jerk himself off, she's not obligated to participate in something she's not interested it any more than he's obligated to abstain from satisfying himself without her.
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>>20022797
>it's not a promise for anything.
Are you fucking 17?
>And we don't know the situation, maybe she would have gotten in more in the mood if he'd taken it slower, or discussed it further, or asked in a way that didn't make her feel weird about it.
Feel weird about what, sex with her fucking boyfriend? What the hell are you on about.
>What's the alternative
That she gives him a handjob while they are kissing. Have you ever had a proper relationship in your life, or are you just underage b8 who has no idea how a normal relationship works?

>Please, just don't discuss sex, you clearly have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
Take your own advice. You are demonstrated an astounding lack of understanding on the topic, and sound like a fucking teenager, or the gold digger whores who are only in a relationship for the money.

>The fucking gall to condemn a stranger's entire character over one spontaneous issue
OPs issue has been going for fucking month. That's not a spontaneous issue.

>>20022797
>Asexual
I'm not the original poster, faggot. What do you know, it's not just one person that thinks you are wrong! I know it sounds unlikely, but here we are.
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>>20022821
>Obviously not if she's got no libido, dingus
Neither do I, but even with no libido at all, you still know this is happening. So unless she is taking meds for a crippling autism, this isn't really how it works.

>>20022802
Enlighten me then. I'm probably not going to change how we do it, because he loves it, but I am very curious why you think this isn't true.
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>>20022823
>Are you fucking 17?
Are you? Grown ass adults in an ongoing relationship don't need to be prepared to put out every minute of the day like every opportunity for sex is sacred, it's neither sacred nor in scarce supply, if one of you don't feel like doing it now there's always later.

>Feel weird about what, sex with her fucking boyfriend? What the hell are you on about.
Giving handjobs can be weird for people, especially if they're not that experienced or aren't in the mood or aren't experienced with doing stuff while not in the mood. Especially women, where sex is often tied to a lot of emotional shit.

>That she gives him a handjob while they are kissing. Have you ever had a proper relationship in your life, or are you just underage b8 who has no idea how a normal relationship works?
Again, NO U
You're fucking flaming out the ass over one random lost opportunity between people you don't even know, I've never seen such virginity. She's on meds, this new issue is going to take a little time to navigate.

>OPs issue has been going for fucking month. That's not a spontaneous issue.
They've been together a month you retard.

>I'm not the original poster, faggot. What do you know, it's not just one person that thinks you are wrong! I know it sounds unlikely, but here we are.
Again, getting fucking ass blasted over the pettiest shit. Pardon me for assuming that the next person in the 2-man thread chain was the person I was talking to.
Do you have anger issues, sir?
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>>20022838
Never experiencing a libido =/= suddenly losing your libido.
Those experiences do not compare at all.
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>>20022819
I'm a dude
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>>20022845
>Grown ass adults in an ongoing relationship don't need to be prepared to put out every minute of the day like every opportunity for sex is sacred
Too bad she almost never puts out.
>it's neither sacred nor in scarce supply, if one of you don't feel like doing it now there's always later.
>Scarce supply
Now I know you are an underage faggot. You are going to have a fucking shock when you grow up.

>Especially women, where sex is often tied to a lot of emotional shit.
They are kissing on the bed, being super emotional already. This could even help her get in the mood. This is literally how we do it at home if any of us isn't in the mood, but we still want to cuddle and be close, and we always get off both of us, and not necessarily from proper penetration. A good round of oral is more than enough.

>She's on meds, this new issue is going to take a little time to navigate.
Yeah sure, but don't fucking pretend it is okay for a couple to have one person just say "nah fuck off, I don't want to do shit with you" for any extended amounts of time. Had you been clear this was fine *for this particular instance*, it would have been fine, but you sound as if this is somehow okay to keep doing. That's not how it fucking works, and that's exactly why that is the leading cause to cheating or break ups. Don't fucking encourage that sort of shit.

>>20022845
>OPs issue has been going for fucking month.
>They've been together a month you retard
I'm not even going to comment further on this, you are already making yourself look like a retard just fine.

>Gets super angry anyone dares say sex is important to not be neglected in a proper relationship
>Pulls a "u... U mad?"
You need to be +18 to post here.
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>>20022838
>Enlighten me then. I'm probably not going to change how we do it, because he loves it, but I am very curious why you think this isn't true.
I'm mostly just talking shit desu, but I definitely find them among the more messy and effortful sex acts so it's funny to hear them described as the opposite. But my guy likes it particularly wet and sloppy, and I have to do a lot of compensating for my really sensitive gag reflex. Add in battling gravity when he wants it while lying back, and it can get to be a fair bit of work.
So hey, congratulations on your seamless blowjobs.
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>>20022847
I somehow doubt you have any way of proving that, nor have any idea of how they might differ.

And regardless, it doesn't really apply to what I wrote. Someone who normally has a libido would definitely know where a situation like that was leading to. It just seems unnecessarily cruel to do it knowing he will be in that state, and then leave him to handle it himself. I guess it's an option, that just sounds like a good way to get those sexless relationships where the guy just jerks off all the time, assuming the girl never intends to put out. Seems kind of sad as pointlessly to even have a relationship at that point. Might as well just be friends then.
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>>20022874
>Now I know you are an underage faggot. You are going to have a fucking shock when you grow up.
While in a relationship, dummy.

>They are kissing on the bed, being super emotional already. This could even help her get in the mood.
Absolutely, and maybe if OP'd let it go on for a bit longer and focused on getting her hot and bothered instead of giving up and asking for a sad handjob, he'd have gotten somewhere. That doesn't make her a bitch, it makes OP lacking game and communication.

>Yeah sure, but don't fucking pretend it is okay for a couple to have one person just say "nah fuck off, I don't want to do shit with you" for any extended amounts of time.
We were given a single scenario.

>Had you been clear this was fine *for this particular instance*, it would have been fine, but you sound as if this is somehow okay to keep doing.
That's you being retarded. Maybe if you weren't such a rabid assclown and calmed down for two seconds instead of defending OP's dick like it's your special needs child, you'd have cottoned on. I said TWICE in my original post that it was an issue to be addressed.
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>>20022020
I'm asking if they would sleep with elderly WOMAN, anon. And being paid good cash for the chance of finally losing their virginity.
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>>20022881
>But my guy likes it particularly wet and sloppy, and I have to do a lot of compensating for my really sensitive gag reflex
He prefers that I swallow everything, so it is just naturally less messy, and I usually make sure to lick up whatever I miss. Wet and sloppy sounds fun though. So like, you just droll all over him on purpose?

My gag reflex is almost non-existent, so I'm good there. Not even sure why, I don't recall training it much. Or maybe my love of cucumbers paid off in more ways than one.
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>>20022887
>It just seems unnecessarily cruel
Or just unthinking. It's not like gave him blueballs with malice aforethought. Hell, maybe she thought they'd get somewhere and he just gave up too soon. If I was making out hoping to get somewhere, I'd be a bit annoyed if my boyfriend suddenly whipped it out all "well I assume you're not getting anywhere tonight, are you? Go on then, give us a tug, love."
We don't know the particulars of what happened.
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>>20022903
>So like, you just droll all over him on purpose?
Kek, yeah, he literally asks me to spit on it. I've gotta bloody rehydrate by the end.
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How do I restart a conversation after saying goodnight? I can't pick up where we left since it was just small talk. I'd like to know them better without being annoying.
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>>20022942
Say good morning
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>>20022948
It's noon where I live kek.
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>>20022950
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>>20022953
T-Thanks
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>>20022942
'hi'
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My boyfriend hasn’t been saying thay he loves me lately (past month or so) and it really bothers me. I asked him if he still does and he got mad and said that I know how he feels and it won’t change that easily. But he still won’t say it. If he doesn’t why not just be honest? If he does, what’s the big deal? Why can’t he say it?
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>>20022820
you could have told him to drop you. Freezing wasn't that bad either - if he isn't a total autist he should notice that and be more gentle about his expressions
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>>20023010
Saying it doesn't mean anything if you get told to say it. Being told to say it deprives it of the same meaning. Imagine if somebody told you to say Thank You after receiving a gift, does it really mean the same thing after that?
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>>20023010
Only he can answer.
I for example really dislike saying it, as it should be obvious through actions, not verbal declarations
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>>20022913
That sounds weird, but might be worth a try anyway. I don't really have issues anyway, but he might appreciate some variety.

>>20022906
True. I was mostly thinking that twice in a full month seems awfully little, especially as you'd think that initial rush of love would make you even more interested in being close and cuddly at first.

Medicine could mess up more than libido alone, though. I don't care for sex, but that doesn't mean I dont want to be close and naked with someone. The sheer comfort and niceness is more than enough to make it desirable, and personally I like the reaction of making someone get off. Especially early on when the love is really fresh.
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What does it actually feel like to not want sex?

I'm a femanon, and even when I'm not especially horny I can always have sex. So women, what does it feel like to be on medication which makes you not want it at all?
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>>20023010
Why are the female posts so funny? Holy shit.
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>>200230to 2
What do you mean? Imagine not wanting to have sex when you might normally want to. It feels like that, don't know how else it'd be described. It just seems like a waste of time or not worth the effort. Nothing unnatural unless you're suddenly shifting from an insanely high libido I imagine.
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>>20023058
Well, I understand not feeling any desire to achieve an orgasm. But if your boyfriend/husband asks - do you instinctively say no because even riding him is so undesireable?
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>>20023060
>riding him is so undesireable
Vaginal-anything is uncomfortable if you have 0 sexdrive. You'll need a lot of lube, and even then it seems to dry up really fast.
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>be at gym
>see my gymcrush again
>say hi and smile
>we talk a bit
>enjoyable small talk about work, finally asked her name and she asked mine
>i still have to do some shit so excuse myself by saying "it was nice talking to you"
>she heads home
>as shes leaving the gym room she looks back and waves to me and smiles
>smile too and wave
>shes visibly happy
>do some of my stuff
>about to go home myself
>see her leaving gym, dressed up in amazing tight dress and her long bronze hair flowing
>storm to locker room, just grab pants and go to exit to hopefully still see her
>shes by bicycle
>say bye with smile and she says bye in sexy voice, she (i think) even realized how it sounded like and laughed a bit
>ask her if shes going to train tomorrow
>she thinks about it like she has better things to do, smiles and says "yeah, im going to train"

So apparently im going ot meet her tomorrow at gym and i bet she expects me to make further moves.

Does this all seem like green light to ask her out or is it all in my head.


As additional info, she came up to me first to talk while back ago to compliment my lifts
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>>20023042
I'm male, but I passed through a period in life when I didn't want any sex. I was taking antidepressants and though my mood got better, my sex drive and libido were totally absent (like during depression before). I can't say it's a bad thing and I can imagine there are people who live like that their whole lives.
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>>20023010

Not a guy, and unlike the other respondents I don't really see a problem with being asked to reaffirm something obvious to a partner. Hell, every time we're in bed my boyfriend directly instructs me to tell him how much I love his cock, and following through doesn't exactly diminish the meaning to me. But if he was instead asking "d-do you actually love my cock? Then how come you never say it anymore?" then that might be a bit weird, because he should know by now that I do, and such insecurity about how I feel might make me question how in sync we really are.

Which is a longwinded way of saying that I don't fall in with the "it doesn't mean anything if I'm asked to say it." I don't think there's anything wrong with asking him to verbally reaffirm that he loves you if it's just because you know it's true and it's nice to hear him say it. But I can see how genuinely questioning his feelings could feel a bit insulting, and might make him question if you're even on the same page if you're doubting it.
But that's all coming at it from the presumption that he does indeed love you. Obviously I have no idea how he feels, but given the reason you're asking, I don't think his reluctance to say it on command is necessarily evidence that he doesn't feel that way.
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>>20023010
Guy here that gets that shit at home. I get mad too. After a certain point (years+) if love is there it is known and shown. Asking (repeatedly) for verbal confirmation shows that you are insecure or that you don't believe him when he does say it/show it. Not trying to be rude but I've had this first hand for years. It actually makes me feel BAD and pushes me away to be called out EVERY DAY on if I 'love enough'.
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Question for the fems. The dreaded 'I Love You'. When is too soon? Me and this girl are totally digging each other (texts like, it's been less than 24 hours and I can't wait to see you again, etc). I don't want to put this on her too soon, but... I kinda want to lock it down, let her know that she really means something to me, something that I'm not sure either of us were actually looking for right now. I'm currently thinking around 2-3 months out, and a handful more dates. We're both in our 30's so no, not just a horny 17 yr old virgin here, or someone who doesn't really know love first hand. Been talking for about a month and half, been out 4-5 times. Seems a bit premature right now, but if things keep up at this pace maybe soon?
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Do paralyzed or otherwise immobile but not like broken leg immobile but y’know what I mean, at least in the lower half, guys/girls feel it down there? Or is it just an emotional thing, or do they just lose interest in sex all together? It’s 5:03 AM and this thought popped in my head and I’m curious to know if anyone knows.
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>>20023089
Are you guys exclusive? And you don't have to say love if you really don't believe it. My boyfriend told me he loved me a year into the relationship; he told how much I meant to him by saying just that: "you mean so much to me".
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>>20021811
Makes it easier to just focus on the physical sensation.
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>>20022443
I have never heard of that happening. Guy getting friendzoned and then mad she gets asked out and accepts, sure, but the girl initiating? I don’t think I’ve ever heard of it outside of fiction, honestly.
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>>20023095
>>20023089
Oh, and he said the "you mean so much to me" after about 1.5 months. We were together everyday though, except for when we were at work.
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>>20022370
Little girls
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>>20023060
>do you instinctively say no
No, I make the conscious decision to say no. My decision is influenced by the cocktail of drugs I'm on, but it's still mine to make in the end. It's like, you might be hungry, but you don't feel like cooking or ordering out so you just don't eat. Same idea with kind of wanting to have sex, but having to physically strain yourself and clean up afterward is just a pain so you don't.
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>>20023142
So it's feasible, when on libido- reducing medication, to have sex and pleasure your partner, and not be considered a bad girlfriend? I mean, you could also enjoy it right, you can orgasm? Just no motivation to?
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>>20023155
I can't speak for everyone in that regard, but personally if my heart's not in it, it would take a miracle to make me orgasm. But honestly, I'd expect my boyfriend to understand I just don't want to have sex as often and respect it. I don't mind helping him take care of himself, but I'm not gonna have sex unless I want to have sex. And if he thinks that makes me a bad girlfriend, then he's a bad boyfriend in my book.
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>>20023094
It probably depends on the condition of the person, including the extent of their paralysis.
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>>20022747
i for example would like to lick clean girls butt, but anal sex doesnt appeal to me at all

idk why

feet on other hand...
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>>20022795
same issue here

people assume im sad or angry at all times, when im just focused at work or i tdont think abotu anything in particular

I started smiling to people and desu they pick up on it quite fast. Then entire workplace seems to crack up for some reason

even if someone is giving you shit, crack a joke about it.

ITs going to be hard, just a disclaimer. For example i have to tap into happy moments of my life inside my brain to bring smile to my face, because i struggle to just smile for sake of it, it just looks like weird controtion on my face then i believe.

For example i was about to see very nice girl today at gym, and i wanted natural smile towards her so i actually thought about different girl that i flirted with at work. Then when i saw the other girl face it brought smile to my face on its own since shes so cute.
Weird i know but thats how my brain works.

Or you can tap into infinite potential of stupid memes that you have in your head and recall them whenever
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>>20023155
I've been on SSRIs for a while that pretty much just killed my libido (used to be pretty sexual before that) but it didn't affect the sex life within my relationship much. Sure, I didn't initiate as much but once things got going I still enjoyed it, even if I didn't usually orgasm (which I'm fine with, it's not a necessity for me every time)
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>>20022813
>Did you know ahead fo time that she didn't want to fuck, or did she make it clear in the moment?
We were half making out and she pretty much said no to moving forward, so clear in the moment.
>Did you try to progress things and get her in the mood before accepting it and settling for a handjob?
Sort of, we were kissing and such.
>Did you persist after she said it sounded weird, to try and make her comfortable with it or did you give up right away?
A little, I tried to ask her why it was weird and she said "idk"
>Does her low libido bother her, or just you?
Not sure, good question. I'll have to ask her, she sure doesn't seem to mind.
>Does she feel bad about not being able to perform, or does she act like your advances are just a (proverbial) pain in the ass?
She said she felt bad, but I'm not sure she actually did feel bad.
>How long is she going to be on these meds, and is it for any condition that'd be distractingly stressful/unsexy?
Likely would be very stressful. Its an anti-depressant.
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Why do women aim for high paying jobs yet still only date men who earn their rough equal or more? Don't they realise they're being massive hypocrites?
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>>20023218
I'm not sure what you mean? I would assume most people would prefer dating someone of equal or higher value if given the opportunity.
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It's Saturday. What would a normie be doing right now?
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>>20023219
I meant specifically in terms of work income. Men don't care that their partner earns less than them.
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>>20023221
Well statistically women tend to go into much lower paying fields, so men don't have that much choice. I find it understandable that the relatively few women who go into quantitative finance would rather date somebody 'on their level'. And of course generally women are much more selective than men simply because they can afford to be.
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>>20023218
How is that hypocritical?
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>>20023218
I know way too many women who have really good jobs yet date guys who earn much less or actually do nothing at all
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>>20023231
This gives me hope. Thanks, anon.

>>20023227
High paying jobs are limited.
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>>20023247
>High paying jobs are limited.
lolwtf
That's not hypocrisy at all. That just means a smaller pool is created. They're all dealing with the same level of competition.
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>>20023073
Nobody here could possibly know. Personally I wouldnt ask girls from my gym out unless they were blatantly obvious, because if they were to say no it'd be pretty awkward.
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>>20023253
well, wasnt that pretty obvious?
Im autistic.

It was kinda funny when i waved to her goodbye and smiled and some thinn girl was staring at us like she saw unicorn
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>>20023247
>this gives me hope
So, you're trying to say you're a NEET or don't earn much, and want a girl who earns more than you?
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>>20023231
I'm one of them.

I have even heard it here before. It's basically "I earn enough that I don't have to worry about what a boyfriend and potential husband earns".

I don't go for guys who earn nothing. I just don't care about it. Big difference that is very important to keep in mind.
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>>20023261
I'm no NEET but I don't earn much. I don't necessarily want a girl who earns more than me.

>>20023252
It's hypocrisy to take something that someone else missed out on, and then say you will only date people who had that thing you took from them.
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>>20023042
Femanon here, I have 0 libido naturally. It doesn't feel in any way - it just doesn't exist in my spectrum of understanding and care. Think of the state a few hours after a meal. Neither hungry nor full. You just... exist in a middle state of content indifference.
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Why does a girl I know flirt unabashedly with me yet she has a boyfriend that she clearly loves to bits? I'm, a little bit confused? And I know I'm not imagining this because other people in our group of friends always ask me about it.
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>>20023275
She likes the attention.
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>>20023275

Some people are flirty by nature. She might be bored. She might be crushing on you. She might be trying to make her bf jealous. She might be trying to boost your confidence. Maybe in her mind it's a running joke between you two. Perhaps she doesn't even realize she's doing it. Who knows, there are a hundred reasons. Ask her if it bothers you.
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>>20023220
Going to get ice cream with a friend later in the day

t.normie
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>>20023273
The thing is, you're more likely to socialise, work with, be around people in similar financial situations to you. Why are you concerned with hypothetical women, when you're more likely to meet someone who's earning a similar salary to you?

Financial security is an important concern for everyone - not just women. I'm a barrister at a top law firm. I wouldn't feel comfortable starting a relationship with someone with credit cards, financial irresponsibility, and an underachiever or someone with few aspirations probably has little in common with me. Unless they work in an interesting field (arts).
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>>20023257
Id say just go for it because you will probably regret it later on if you wont. I think chatting with and asking out every girl you like gives you a high chance of finding someone, good luck.
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>>20023218
I earn quite a bit, and I don't really care.

Though to be honest, I get the idea. I worked very hard for a master degree and a high paying position as a CFO, so an unemployed guy who has put less than 1% of my level of effort into his career, could feel like too large a gap between us.

I just don't really feel that's important enough to actually turn down a guy who who is otherwise perfect. Especially since I would never date the type of guys around me. Those guys at my paygrade are really not the sort of people I would want to date, much less marry.

But I'm also super autistic, and browse 4chan, so I am probably an outlier of outliers. I'm not sure how valuable my viewpoint is on this one.
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>>20023283
>Perhaps she doesn't even realize she's doing it.
I had a period in my early 20s where things went well for me, so I was always cheery, happy and social. I loved talking to people and hearing their stories, and I always smiled and laughed a lot. I didn't know until much later that I was considered the "flirt" at that company, because I apparently came off as flirting with EVERYBODY. I am still not sure specifically what made them think I was flirting. If it was just "I'm happy, smile, and like talking to people", that's a bit odd. But it is very likely she just likes you with no romantic or sexual thoughts behind it, and doesn't realize what she is doing.
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>>20023273
>It's hypocrisy to take something that someone else missed out on, and then say you will only date people who had that thing you took from them.
But no one's taking anything. It's just more competition.
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>>20023306
I really wish you had given the (You) to me whomst was the original poster of the question but I appresivate the input but tonight we were meeting and instead of listening to someone who is really good at telling stories about his travels tell a story we were having a discussion about lickstep smears on dicks during blow jobs because she was wearing off colour rouge that wasn't at all red and i said it looked abit whorey on her so it's blatantly sexual at times. Maybe she's just a tease but I've known her for yearly and year now and it's always been me she does it to.
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What makes people afraid to say "I love you" early on in the relationship, if they feel like they really love their partner? Also, why don't people mention love more often in the " getting to know" time before a relationship? It seams to be a cultural thing also, but any personal reason you don't do it anons?
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>self confessed lesbian that dates guys (though had some girl ONSs) wants to be friends
>discuss pretty under-the-skin topics like abusive relationships, word honesty gets thrown a lot
>then says she wouldn't mind being in a relationship with me (I'm a guy BTW)
>asks if I would like to be her bf
>tell her I prefer to be friends although I find her attractive in some ways
>"lol what a coward, bye"
Where do I find somebody less awful?
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>>20023322
I'm a femanon. I don't think I truly believe what love is, and if it exists. I know I love my family because they'll never leave me - but a random man, whom I can't trust to stay? No. I won't tell him I love him, no matter how strong my feelings are for him.
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If a girl asks me to hang out and catch up it doesn't mean a date, right?
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>>20023322

Because infatuation and love are two different things. It's pretty much impossible to say whether or not you love someone until you know them through and through and have seen them truly at their best and worst. Overuse of "I love you"s just makes it less meaningful.
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>>20023340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_bEWXs_FX4
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>>20023347
Everyone has their own definition of "love" so there's really no point in saying "infatuation and love are not the same" imo.
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>>20023325
>Where do I find somebody less awful?

Keep trying. You will find bad people all the time, all you can do is keep trying and stick with the good ones.

>>20023343

Maybe she just wants to hang out and catch up.
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>>20023374
All I want is somebody to sincerely talk to and share feelings with. A relationship would be nice, but it's not necessary. Where can I look? Offline I'm too busy and online it seems like everybody just rushes for a relationship/ONS.
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>>20020463
are girls the enemies of men?
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>>20023537
>Offline I'm too busy

When would you hang out with them if you don't even have time to meet them?
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>>20023099
Maybe I’m in a minority but in all relationships I know it was the girl/woman who initiated. Then again men in my country are known to be gigantic betas.
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>>20023544
No, incel. They are parteners. They are made to complete and fullfill each other's needs.
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>>20023287
same what i was thinking
Considering asking her out tomorrow, its not big deal because i see her only on weekends at gym and not even that often. Secondly, theres another gym from same chain that i can freely go to

Even if she was mad that i asked (which literally shouldnt be the case) it wont hurt that much or at all
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>>20023603
but is feminism its end goal to kill all men?
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Lived with gf for 1 year. She left for grad school and is now busy with class load/new friends, broke up 45 days ago because I started acted _really_ needy and weak when she left.

Got "let's just be friends" I said nah, relationship only. Reach out if you change your mind. Been in no contact (that I've implemented) since like mid August.

I'm still unable to get over my feelings for her. She def still loves me too (just not as much obv), but has been trying to distract herself by going out 24/7. I'm trying to fix myself first, and get a better job etc.and I know if we see eachother irl I can re-attract her easily.

Let's say I want to give it 3 months before I accept "move on" as an answer.

How do I get her back?

My 2 options: 1. maintain no contact forever, wait for her to reach out, then set up a time to hang out.

2. take up her up on offer to "be friends" to get close to her again (after I get my shit together in like a month). hang out, flirt and court her under those pretenses?

As I said, if I get time alone with her irl I'm confident I can turn things around. But I need to figure out how to make that happen.
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>>20023634
She's probably focussing on grad school, which is actually a sane thing to do. Relationships are fleeting, as you've shown, and she wants to focus on something more reliable. It's a mature thing to do and you must let her go.

Go no contact and wait for her to initiate, if she does. I doubt she will, it looks like she's making her own friends and moving on. Don't you work or study or have something to focus on instead ?
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How can I expect to amount to the extremely high demands a woman has for a guy when they have sex?
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>>20023649
>extremely high demands
lol since when?
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>>20023648
We had something rly special, and I still love her a lot. The problem is that when I was with her, I didn't have my shit together and she did. She kept pushing me to but I stayed lazy because I was complacent in the relationship. A big reason for the breakup.

Since she moved, I've got a new job lined up, have classes scheduled and have been working on myself more (getting rid of shitty habits like porn, video games etc).

We had once in a lifetime tier chemistry. If I get the opportunity to show that I've changed (I recognize I'm not ready yet, I need like another month desu), I'm pretty confident I can get her back if we are hanging out irl. I just need advice on how to make that opportunity happen.
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>>20023649

Don't let your low self-esteem make you so sad. Also, don't blame women for your own imaginary requirements.
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>>20023665
Sorry anon, but firstly don't idealise her. And also, you can't expect to remedy the past after she's gone and the relationship is dead. She told you what you had to do to keep her, and now she's left you. You've lost your chance.

Don't worry though, this will be an experience which you learn from. Don't make the same mistake in your next relationship. It's not enough to "fix" just because you've lost her and only saw the value in her once she left.

It's good that you're improving yourself but it's too little too late, and not good if you're only doing it to get her back. The chemistry may have been good but it's in the past now. If she reaches out I'd say definitely respond, but from a woman's perspective, it's disrespectful to suddenly give a shit once the relationship is over. Let her pursue her life without you hindering her pursuits.
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Do Christian men and women masturbate? Or do they just have casual sex?
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>>20023684
>It's good that you're improving yourself but it's too little too late, and not good if you're only doing it to get her back.

Literally what she was saying towards the end. "Do this for you baby, don't do it for me" and I didn't listen.

I'm still too emotionally fucked to do this for me. I'll use the idea of us getting back together as a motivator until I can motivate myself to achieve my own goals.

Fuck my heart is on fire. This sucks.
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When do I ask for a Tinder girls number?

We matched on Monday, she usually replies once a day and types a lot as we're both fans of history. Sent her a reply yesterday morning and she hasn't replied yet. Do I just ask for her number when she does reply?
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>>20023717
I'm really sorry anon, truly. I can understand what you're feeling. I royally fucked up my relationship and my boyfriend said I couldn't do anything to get those feelings back and that "at least I wouldn't fuck up the next relationship" - but I wanted HIM, you know?

It will stop hurting, 45 days is still a short period of time to compose yourself. I always say it's good to change "for" someone if the change is good; use it to power you, but don't get it in your head that she'll come back once you sort yourself out. Maintain no contact - remember the good times, but move on. You made a big mistake not valuing the relationship when you had it. But now you won't make that mistake again with someone ever better!
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>>20020583
starting crying too, but louder. She was testing your dominance and you lost the test.
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Is the fear of being attacked/kidnapped when out walking at night a common phobia for women? How can I help a woman get past this fear now that it is hurting her ability to get to and from work?
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Is it normal or common for straight guys to speak in the stereotypically effeminate way? Or if they do is it almost certain they are gay?
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>>20023789
i have a friend that acts, walks and talks like a fag and is straight
As in, he has a gf. Hes a computer science nerd so i dont blame him.

Is it normal or common ? not really but it happens.
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>>20023808
Oh shit. Yeah I notice it's common for computer science nerds. In my case there's this girl I like and she often hangs out with a guy, tells him "I love you", etc. Idk much about the guy but he speaks in an effeminate way and has many mannerisms with his hands. I guess I should just ask her if she's single and then ask her out.
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>>20023835

Who cares, if she's single then she is single. It's not your fault if some guy is friendzoned. He is probably gay though anyway, from the sounds of it. Presuming these are not teenagers, which I just realised, depressingly, is probably the case.

>>20023775

Yes, it is very scary, in fact everyone should have a reasonable amount of wariness about walking alone at night as anyone can be attacked, not just women. Weapons training and being able to carry a gun will help. Otherwise if it is really a fear then there must be some other mode of transport she can use, or walk home together with someone.
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>>20023628
>feminism
>Representative of girls
15 years ago, all feminism wanted was equality. Nowadays it's a cesspool of whiny little shits who want total dominance of the earth, and should be treated like you would a neonazi.
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>>20023835
it has to do with most of them never working physical labour and shit

Just look at their soft hands, thin necks, and twig arms and legs.

not bragging here but my hands are like sandpaper and my neck is width of my jaw, because of lifting heavy ass weights. And i used to be videogame nerd big time
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>>20023930
so not all girls are feminazi's?
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My girlfriend doesn't fight, she just goes passive aggressive and gives me the silent treatment.

She did it the other day when I told her that buying products from some international random on twitter by paying through Paypal 'friends and family' was a bad idea.

She was wondering why her product hasn't show up 6 months after she's ordered it.

Are all women this way or is this the product of a naive, overly agreeable personality?
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>>20023835
>>20023808
>Computer science boys
>Acting like girls
I think you spotted the guys who pretends to be girls online.
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>>20023946
where exactly did i say im a female you retard

the guy in question is my buddy i literally met online at first in videogame, then we met up irl
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>>20023936
Not even close. Kinda like Islam shit, 99% are fine, 1% are cancerous shit that needs to be purged.
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>>20023950
>islam is 99% fine

loooooooooooOOOOOOO-
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>>20023950
>99% are fine

Nope
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>>20023949
>where exactly did i say im a female you retard
Reading comprehension. You need it. Badly.
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>>20023956
>>20023955
"Fine" as in, "these aren't actively harmful to you".

I'd still avoid the vast majority of either, but only the 1% is really a large issue.
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>>20023957
yeah i do

but your reply is still out of place
Im 6'2 and thicc as it gets and i could pretend im a girl online just fine
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>>20023965

If you want to do anything that Islam hates, though, like listen to music, be homosexual, be a woman, drink alcohol... even the 99% cause a problem. Obviously not all of those people. But a lot more than 1%.
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>>20023974
>Continues to miss the point
I didn't call you a girl, anon.

Sorry about your awful reading comprehension.
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>>20023989
Which is unfortunately no different than how Christians have behaved until very recently.
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>>20024031

I don't give a shit about what life was like in the 1800s, it's 2018 for god's sake. Historical life is practically a fiction, it doesn't affect anyone now - this is happening today.
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>>20024031
And? That’s not happening now with Christians, it is happening now with Islam.

>buh buh buh muh crusades
Were enacted as a counter to the moselman crusades of conquest and religion.
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>>20023949
What are you talking about? I think you thought that anon was replying to a different post.
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How the fuck is it possible that literally every girl I've ever been closer with has eventually told me that we're not compatible? Every single time it has been after around a month and it's happened a lot of times actually. I mean fuck me I've seen all kinds of differently fucked up men eventually finding that one girl that accepts them and they're compatible with but I don't seem to be able to find one. What the fuck
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Do girls ever find depression attractive on a guy?
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>>20024088
No
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>>20024057
>>20024047
You realize it has only been a handful of years since the gay hatred by the Christian church ended, right? We are talking less than a decade.
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>>20024088
Only in a “Maybe I can fix him its so romantic!” way, but then realize no this isn’t fun at all time to dump him. Trust me.

>>20024092
You do realize that it’s only been a handful of seconds since a gay was stoned by muslims? We are talking less than a minute.
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>>20024096
>Only in a “Maybe I can fix him its so romantic!” way, but then realize no this isn’t fun at all time to dump him. Trust me.
Nah, it's never ATTRACTIVE, it may be bearable at best, and that's only if their bf is a qt Chad.
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>>20024109
True.
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>>20024079
What's wrong with you? Lol.

I'm dating a guy who I'm pretty sure I'm going to dump soon because we're incompatible. I thought I could deal with it, but it builds up to a point (especially when things are getting very serious) and you don't want to risk being 5 years into a relationship which just shouldn't have happened in the first place.
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>>20024124
>What's wrong with you? Lol.
Fuck knows. Something definitely is, but like I said, I've seen all kinds of fucked up guys out there who still have managed to find someone that likes them and wants them. I guess there's someone for everyone except for me.
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>>20024127
I can relate to that completely.
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>>20024127
I think if it's been a month, you're still in the getting to know each other phase. Try being yourself and honest at the very start (my bf told me all his weird kinks and was very much himself immediately). Also, keep the intimacy and passion up - maybe they're just not feeling that "spark" consistently?
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>>20024136
>I think if it's been a month, you're still in the getting to know each other phase.
I don't know. Some girls did it faster. Hell, one girl even told me that she absolutely loved our first date (it was really cool) and she thinks I'm amazing but we're incompatible. I have no idea why she'd say that. It came out of nowhere and I really liked her and wanted to take things slow.

>Try being yourself and honest at the very start (my bf told me all his weird kinks and was very much himself immediately).
I do that. It really filters out a lot of girls and only some stay for a bit longer... and even those girls leave. Truth is, I suppose those girls see a composed slightly crazy guy initially but then my insanity seems to slip out a bit more. I think that may be the case. I don't know.

>Also, keep the intimacy and passion up - maybe they're just not feeling that "spark" consistently?
I don't know, maybe. I'm extremely open and honestly after so many dates and girls I kinda know how to date. It's... like a skill at this point.
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>>20024079
Hey here's a crazy thought... Could it possibly have something to do with you?

But ok. What did any of these women say when you asked what they meant by "not compatible"? What sort of behavior do you exhibit routinely, when you reflect on how you behave? If you're completely clueless, why not ask your friends what their impression of you is? Or your family?

Could it be your "woe is me" attitude? Your conviction that life is so unfair, but just to you?
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>>20024182
>Could it possibly have something to do with you?
I posted this already and yes, it's more than likely something to do with me BUT there's a lot of other men who are fucked up, and yet eventually they find someone. It's a numbers game apparently but it's not working out for me.

>What did any of these women say when you asked what they meant by "not compatible"?
I have absolutely no idea. If I ever asked, some would either not respond at all, some would just say "i don't know". With some I didn't even bother asking.

>What sort of behavior do you exhibit routinely, when you reflect on how you behave?
I'm a normal guy. I wake up, eat breakfast, go to work, come back, dinner, study a bit and go to sleep. I don't know what's so bad about me or my life that puts them off. I have hobbies and I sometimes practice them when I have the time. Hobbies that I suppose are relatively normal (sport shooting, vidya, making music, movies, tv shows).

>why not ask your friends what their impression of you is
I did ask some friends. They never found anything weird about me really. I didn't ask family, I don't want them to know how many girls found me "incompatible" really...

>Could it be your "woe is me" attitude? Your conviction that life is so unfair, but just to you?
I doubt it, I don't display that to anyone, especially not the girls I'm dating.
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>>20024209
Its mosy likelu not your life but the way you communicate with women. It could be off putting, you could be too much of a pussy and dont touch these women etc
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>>20024158
I think the "more fucked up guys have good relationships" thing is a little subjective. My boyfriend is 100% fucked up, but he's in his 40s and never had a relationship last more than 2 years. Not long term whatsoever - they leave eventually, you're lucky they do it so quickly so you're not as hurt.

>Insanity
Can you describe this a little more? Also, you have to choose girls who you think are more open to the real you. My boyfriend outright told me he didn't tell any of his other girls some honest kinks he had, but he told me. Find a suitably crazy girl and pursue them instead.

Also, have some "uncrazy" things to offset the crazy? For example, money or a good body.
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To those who didn't go out with their first love, did you confess when you moved on?
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>>20024228
i never moved on
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>>20024228
My first love started ignoring me because she thought I was creepy.
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>>20024220
>the way you communicate with women
I doubt it. I mean I've had so much practice at this point girls think I'm a fucking casanova or whatever. I have no trouble talking to girls, in fact, due to being a lawyer I'm kinda natural at talking to people in a rather convincing manner and all. And I say that based on compliments from others on that, especially the women in question.

>you could be too much of a pussy and dont touch these women
On the contrary. I have no trouble with physicality. Especially not with the girls I want more "long term".

>>20024224
>you're lucky they do it so quickly so you're not as hurt
I actually am. Given the fact that after so many attempts I've still been told the same fucking thing doesn't make me feel okay.

>Can you describe this a little more?
It's hard to explain really. It's like I'm a rather creative person and extremely curious about pretty much everything. So I come up with things to discuss, often things that are controversial. I hate taboo subjects. And this goes even further in case of my humour because it's... kind of a 4chan humour. It's kind of disturbing for some people I suppose. Though people who aren't interested in relationships with me find it very funny and smart actually. Like I'm that "crazy guy who comes up with crazy shit all the time and he's funny". Also I sometimes want to do crazy shit like trespassing into a zoo on my first date. The girl liked it immensely apparently.

>Also, have some "uncrazy" things to offset the crazy? For example, money or a good body.
Good education, smart, car, stable life plans. I'm really kind of a normal stable guy with a little unstable mind. Not in a way that I'd beat anyone or lash out on anyone though.
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I think I've got it guys. I think I can nail it all right next time i'm on a date.

So I was on a date with this lass, I did phenomenal, to the point of her wanting another date.I escalated physically, but never managed to escalate with a kiss, it felt awkward and she felt stiff (shes 18, im 21)

Advice on how to proceed on next Date?
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>>20024239
Well it's real love, it's just one sided. I'm leaving the country soon and thought about it, never had the courage to do it and since I won't be seeing them until a few years..
>>20024240
>>20024244
>tfw
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>give a girl one word replies and take some time to reply
>ignore one of her questions
>she finally snaps and asks the same thing 3 times in a row

Kek.
Is this how Chads do it? I usually carry the conversation with her, but decided to try something different this time.
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Would a girl ever invite a guy to hang out with her and her friends?
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>>20024273
lol
I don't know but I started doing the same thing too. It's way more comfy like this though I guess it's just a side effect of being hopeless and not giving a shit. Some people say things come when you don't look for them though.
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>>20024273
It actually is. I tried that as well. Girls like that emotional rollercoaster and like it when you don't like them too much and they have to work for you.

But you gotta balance it out because too much of that and she'll find another cock
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>>20024279
To show him to her friends, yeah. Usually either to get their opinion, or because she has a friend who she thinks might be interested in you.

No guarantees it will be a good thing for you, though.
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>>20024273
Depends a lot on what kind of girl you are texting. I assume this is some tinder whore? In that case, it's probably a good tactic. Makes you seem like you have more fish on the hook, and means she has to fight for it.

Most non-sluts would probably ghost you if you did this.
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>>20024296
I can't tell if she wants me to come along, or if she's just casually telling me about her plans today.
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>>20024308
Show us what she texted you
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so tomorrow imma ask girl out hopefully if all goes well

or should i just ask her number and text with her about when shes available and shit
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>>20024247
Oh, you're the zoo first date guy! Man, I thought that was really cool. I don't know how to help you, anon, sorry. Maybe it's just about racking up some more numbers and finding that girl who trully connects with you on a deeper level.

I think those fucked up guys hide their fucked up'dness long enough to really hook the girl in, but again, the girl will often leave in time. I don't think you're too fucked up, just eccentric? In any case - find someone you actually click with instead of hiding who you are - or just outright pretend to be someone else and normal until you dupe them?
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why would a girl lie about having a bf and keep saying i love you to me?

it's just so baffling, we had a good thing going and she went out and did this shit
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>>20024333
>Oh, you're the zoo first date guy!
Shit I didn't think anyone would remember me. Yeah that's me. I'm still kinda mad it didn't work out with that girl after all.

>I think those fucked up guys hide their fucked up'dness long enough to really hook the girl in, but again, the girl will often leave in time.
I don't know, I do my best to hide it but honestly I can't even bother with doing it anymore. Neither strategy works.

>I don't think you're too fucked up, just eccentric?
I thought that too but I guess I'm too eccentric for girls. I mean they can like me and all but they just don't want to be with me.

>In any case - find someone you actually click with instead of hiding who you are
I... actually found someone like this. We were soulmates, she even admitted it herself. But she left too. Her explanation was: "I don't know what it is, I just... like the other guy. I like you too, anon, but I feel more sure of him".

>just outright pretend to be someone else and normal until you dupe them?
I tried that as well but it doesn't work for me, not in the long run. I'd be boring as hell and wouldn't really be able to hide my powerlevel for long.
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if a girl keeps one of her guy friends as her twitter profile pic, it must mean they are in a relationship right?

like i know this chick who made a fake account for spamming on twitter and had her best guy friend's altered photo as profile
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>>20024312
She's with her friends, shopping, she said it's important to hang out with friends on the weekends, she asked why I'm not out right now.
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>>20023649
women are whores and unironically sleep with anyone that makes their emotional hamster spin
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>>20024332
Go with the flow dont overthink
Dont come with expectations and if she says no stay chill tell her its all good and move to the next girl
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Women:

My ex dumped me a couple of weeks ago. She deleted me from facebook, but not from snapchat. She keeps viewing my stories. What gives?
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>>20024351
Tell her its all cool give a stupid reason that your friends are all tired after a week of work and that youre alone for now

Maybe fish for her invitation or try to find out if she even wants you there
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>>20024379
>Maybe fish for her invitation or try to find out if she even wants you there
How do I do that?
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>>20024384
>give a stupid reason that your friends are all tired after a week of work and that youre alone for now
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>>20024404
Yeah, I already did that. That's when she told me she's shopping with her friends.
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Is it bad to lose interest/want to leave a woman because she's getting in to prostitution? The idea of being with someone who is having sex with someone else, even for work, is something i'm not comfortable with.
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>>20024431
its not bad

she is a whore
simple as that
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Why is it so damn satisfying to kiss, embrace, massage and fuck the shit out of this girl who looks, sounds and behaves exactly like my mother did when I was a kid? I feel like I'm having the best sex of my life right now with her. Even when I showed my mom a pic of my current gf she was like "This girl looks so much like me it's creepy".
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>>20024363
Curiosity, likely.
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>>20024431
Of course, this is not something that is accepted in most places.

Fun fact, many prostitutes in Thailand for example have boyfriends that know what they do for a living. Its absurd, Ive been fucking this girl and she tells me she has a boyfriend and that he knows and its all cool.
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>>20024431
no
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>>20024436
>>20024488
>>20024502
Ok, I feel bad because she needs the money and we're both working class/poor so I can't help her. It's just not something I can handle though, i've lost interest completely.

Thanks.
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I have a fwb that gives me blowjobs a lot. I think she expects me to go down on her since sometimes she pushes my head down there when we're doing stuff.

I don't want to go down on her because I know she's been with lots of guys, and it also isn't my strength in the bedroom. Am I just being stupid here? It's not like we're in a relationship. Should I just go down on her? I'd understand if she'd no longer want to give me blowjobs since I don't go down on her.
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>>20024363
i had the same query

>>20024485
about what?
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>>20024528
One time I gave this guy I was into a blowjob, and afterwards asked him to go down on me. He said he "doesn't do that"
>lol.jpeg
So, I got him hard and made him put on the condom. Then said I didn't want sex, got dressed, and left out. He was complaining that he doesn't masturbate and I've now given him blue balls etc etc.

I hate unfairness, and I love getting my clit licked. I think it's fair if you tell her that you won't reciprocate but seriously OP - if she's pushing your head down (I do this to my boyfriend) you must know she REALLY likes it! Just give it a go, it's not like she hasn't washed her vag since those other encounters.
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>>20024540
Are you really that thick mate? Of course she wants to check if you're moving on
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>>20024528
I get your side and respect it, but if she sucks your dick often I personally would have trouble not returning the favor.
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>>20024549
>Of course she wants to check if you're moving on
but why would she care unless she wanted me to get back with her?
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>>20024545
I'm also not that good at it though. My ex would send me messages saying I'm bad at it, and ever since then I've never tried again even though I've watched and read guides
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>>20024545
>give sexual favors and expect something in return
No wonder he didnt want to go down on you what a fucking cunt lmao
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>>20024557
Trust me man, you can't be bad at eating pussy. Some girls just get self conscious or need more vigorous stimulation. This girl is pushing your head down - she clearly gets off on it and wants you to do it. Point of FwB is that you both have fun sexually - and, coming from someone who really like receiving cunnilingus, sex wouldn't be the same without it.

Tell her beforehand to indicate when she likes a specific motion or pattern - then you know when you're doing good and you can keep doing that.
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My guy friend gets jealous whenever I talk about or mention other guys in front of him. The other day we were on voice chat and I guess he heard the TV in the background and thought I had a guy there and started acting super weird about it.

We do have some history, he used to say he was in love with me but he has a girlfriend now so I figured he was over that.
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>>20024603
he’s probably not as over his feelings for you as he says, girlfriend or no girlfriend.
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>>20024565
You're right, I should have a go at it then. I'll try next time I see her. Any other tips?
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Ladies, what are the best sex positions for men with small dicks? Asking for a friend.

(Not including the obvious such as foreplay)
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>>20024633
Not a girl but they definitely love cowgirl
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>>20024603
its not like we can just flip a switch in brain and forget about girl
Even if shes totally out of reach for us

Women seem to lose interest fully at a whim, most guys wont have such thing to happen unless she does something that massively disgusted him or shit
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>>20024416
Better idea, how can I invite her to hang out with me later?
>Well I hope you have fun with your friends, maybe you and I could catch a movie or something next weekend.
Is that cringe?

Keep in mind, I've only known her for about a week, I'm pretty sure she's not into me, and we've never met in person (we communicate via text).
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>>20024638
This. While I've killed off like 90% of my desire to be with her, tinges of it still linger.

Occasionally I torture myself by posting on her IG stuff.
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>>20024634
For small dick? Really? I've legit been asked to write an article about the best positions for men with small dicks, but as I'm a gay man and don't have a small dick, I feel woefully under qualified.
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>>20024656
Yeah. I'm not big and girls seem to really enjoy that. And so do I.
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>>20024647
i had to delete my fb, unfollow her on ig
Yet i still see her at work few times a week and it still hurts

I dont even talk to her and try acting like she isnt even there, she still looks at me (and so do i look at her, not gonna lie)
I kinda wish she was gone for good from our workplace. Maybe i should change workplace.
There was literally nothing between us, yet somehow my brain got wired into oneitis.


Girls, do you sometimes start blabberign about random stuff when you are nervous, afraid that the conversation isnt going smoothly?
I kinda had this feeling with one girl today, she started blabbering about her headphones like she was a salesman.
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>>20024657
Don't. It's over.
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How does one offer a friends with benefits sort of arrangement?
I've never done that before, i've always tried for relationships. But i have a lot going on in my life, and i can't afford a relationship breaking up in the near future.
But i'd like someone who i can reliably fuck for the next year or so.
There are two chicks in uni who i occasionally talk to. I've dropped a few hints with one of them. I wouldn't be in a relationship with them, so i never hit on them aside from some light flirting. But i would have sex.
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>>20024623
Next time you see her, instigate it instead of waiting for her to push your head down. My ex did this to me (pulled my trousers down, and got stuck in with passion) and I remember it to this day - sexiest, most confident thing I've experienced. Otherwise, just be receptive to what SHE enjoys - good luck anon!
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A friend of this girl I like asked her if she liked me because she thought we would be a good couple. From what it sounded like, her answer was indecisive; she likes me, 'but not that way' and doesn't want to be in a relationship with anyone right now.

It's about the answer I expected but still slightly surprised me because of the mixed signals I felt I was getting (she was always quick to run up and hug me, would text me the night before things that she was excited to see me the next day, asked friends if I was around if she saw them but not me at an event).

How deep and fucked by the friend zone am I right now? I'm still a bit hopeful because this is basically how the relationship between my sister and her current boyfriend started out.





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