If just one of these was alive right now, would it live until death or would it be possible for it to be killed by a non-human predator?
>>2338483>would it live until death
>>2338483Only orcas, but they gang-rape it.
How did these things or other sea creatures sleep? The waters seemed more dangerous than land. I'd be sleeping with one eye open.
>>2338483As >>2338487said. Not even in their time they had that much of a competition.
>>2338558I always have this horrific scenario play in my head when it comes to marine reptiles.>be in the middle of the ocean>see a blurry figure in the distance slowly get bigger>its a mosasaurus>you can't outswim it but try anyway>you see it getting closer faster and faster with its jaws wide open>crunch>you're deadThank God these things don't exist today or else traveling by sea would have been impossible
>>2338685I love sea monster tales http://cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/a-look-back-at-the-1962-pensacola-florida-sea-serpent-incident-3/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SM_U-28_(Germany)>On 30 July 1915, U-28 sunk the British steamer Iberian. According to Commander von Forstner's account of the incident, the wreckage remained under the water for about 25 seconds until an explosion sent some of the debris flying up. It is said that along with the debris, a creature described as a "gigantic aquatic animal" resembling a crocodile was seen, which quickly disappeared from sight
>>2338700https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Iberian_(1900)>At that moment SM U-28's captain, chief engineer, navigator, helmsman, engineer officer and an able seaman were in the conning tower of the submarine. They all witnessed a crocodile-like creature writhing and struggling 25 metres (82 ft 0 in) high into the sky among the debris of the ship after Iberian's boilers exploded. The crew stated that the aquatic crocodile was about 20 metres (65 ft 7 in) long, with four limbs resembling large webbed feet, a long pointed tail and a head which also tapered to a point. Unfortunately the crew were not able to take a photograph, since the animal sank out of sight after just ten or fifteen seconds
>>2338700>>2338702>you will never sea a see monster
>>2338614Orcas are about 12 meters long, you would literally need some Jurassic World bullshit for that pic to be plausible.
>>2338757>largest orca ever recorded was 9.8 meters>average orca size between 7-9 metersHmm 12 meters you say?
>>2338558Most sea animals literally do that.
>>2338772also mosasaurs were 16-18 feet. so orcas still would be rekt.
>>233877718 feet isn't even 6 meters long. If that's true, then aren't Orcas bigger on average?
>>2338483it would get gangbanged by orcas.
>>2338777>Mosasaurs where between 1 and about 18m long, with more then half of this length build up by a long slender tail the more famous genera like tylosaurus and mosasaurus where among the biggest species. neither of them had anywhere near the brain capacity of modern Cetacea>Orcas are 10/11 meter long packhunting killers that are known to attack and hunt way bigger balleen whales, they are probably a major factor in the extinction of the megalodon and are known to be able to learn new hunting methods.no contest here.
>>2338777i meant 16-18 metres. my bad.
>>2338800meg could bite orcas in half, they killed whales the same size all the time
>>2338811and to add to this, its thought that megs hunted from the sea floor upwards, the way modern great whites do. so they could easily use that tactic on killer whales. one bite would end it all.
>>2338812>upwardswhat do you think the orca's color scheme is for?
>>2338483mosasaurs aren't what jurassic poop made them out to be.now certain pliosaurs on the other hand
>>2338814regardless, meg would have the advantage
>>2338772Well dip me in shit and call me a dipshit, because I was sure that I have seen that number somewhere.Anyway at worse it's a 4 meter difference, it would still have to be ridiculously huge to have an almost 10 meter skull (a blue whale's skull is half that size and the largest sea reptiles skulls are even smaller iirc).
>>2338830Being a factor in something's extinction doesn't only mean killing the extinct animal directly
>>2338867i agree with that, but majority of anti-meg people love to claim orcas hunted them to extinction. which could not be in any way true, other than maybe a pod biting one and it dying from eventual blood loss
>>2338883>which could not be in any way true,>he literally doesn't understand that animals are born smallI love the mentally disabled. So cute.
Can someone explain to me how orcas made megalodon extinct?
>>2338944It was more climate change and evolution than anything else. The world became colder and warm blooded whales were able to adapt and move to colder climates while Megalodon had to stay in warmer waters. Orcas played some factor in that they could prey on younger Megalodon but also the warm water whales that did stick around. So with the addition of predation before reproductive age and competition, the Megalodon were phased out.
>>2338889i love autists who get overly worked up, so cute
>>2339012>gets rekt>keeps responding
>>2339038>has a small benis>keeps living
>>2338867>factorTheory, not fact. And it was implied there was predation by other Megs on their own species as waters cooled and prey species vanished with the rising sea levels that ended the Meg, not killer whales.
>>2338614That's a liopleurodon, not a mososaur. And they never reached that size.
>>2338800You don't know that mosasaurs and their large relatives didn't hunt in packs or if they could learn new hunting methods either.
>>2339137It was a lizard and therefore most probably retarded
I am pretty sure an orca pond would hunt megalodon with at least 98% success rate.Sharks are dumb and the size difference isnt big enough.Thanks to the orca's sonar and superior intellect the megalodon would never sneak up on them, they would just gang up on him, eat his fins to immobilize it and then flip him over for an easy picking.inb4 14 years old who would say otherwise show up. And even then, with orcas around theres no way a megalodon would ever reach adulthood LOLLiterally the most cucked out of existence shark around
>>2339188>Thanks to the orca's sonar and superior intellect the megalodon would never sneak up on themJust like how sharks never eat dolphins, right?>And even then, with orcas around theres no way a megalodon would ever reach adulthoodThis also explains why sharks are currently extinct. With orcas around, they clearly cannot survive.
>>2339191>This also explains why sharks are currently extinct. With orcas around, they clearly cannot survive.See you in 20 years anonIts only the beginning, due to fin hunting and kilelr whale predation on bigger sharks, some shark species have disappeared from their previous major hunting ground in australia and south africa.go ahead honey, google it
>>2339191>comparing dolphin' sonar to the orca'skek
>>2339188>orcas>hunting an apex predator 10 times their own sizeSure thing faggot.
>>2339230>megalodon>10 times the size of an orcaWhy are you even posting on this board, sweetheart?
>>2339188>an orca pond>LOL>calls everybody else 14 year olds Whatever, like, can u go
>>2339286>imblying you arentthere, I just made another typo for you sweety <3Now go back to jacking off on your megalodon fanfiction website
>>2339285Were you the fag claiming the average Orca is 11 meters long?
>>2339137Considering they are basically sea Komodos I'd bet they were solitaire animals.
>>2339294Nope, but its much closer to the specie's standard than your lowly non-apex predatornobody cares about your shitty fish anon
>>2339294>Were you the fag claiming the average Orca is 11 meters long?He is not, I am tho . No need to be so harsh over a damn mistake, is not like I didn't admit I was wrong or anything >>2338851.
100 Brock Lesnars vs 10 MosasaursWho wins?
>>2338558For one, the open ocean is pretty barren. Animals obviously live out there but it's rare you'll bump into anything your size that's a problem.Secondly, and more importantly, animals are often mentally wired very differently then humans. Fish and sharks may have to 'sleep' less of their brain at a time, so they can still swim and wake up if they detect threats but are mostly dormant.
>>2339300Wrong though, moron.
>>2339775Sharks sleep one side of their brain at a time, while one side is resting through seep, the other is awake and aware, and so they swim while sleeping
>>2339285Orcas are the most intelligent marine species ad the apex predator of the oceans, if Mosasaurus was still alive Orcas would adapt their social system for much larger families and hunting groups. No matter the size of the aimal, Orcas can take it down.
>>2341051>No matter the size of the aimal, Orcas can take it down.Bull sperm whales say hi.
>>2341061Whales aren't a threat to Orcas, they have no reason to hunt whales since they can get smaller prey and waste less energy. But if a carnivore large than them was around the story would be diferent, they would adapt out of necessity. Orcas hunt great white sharks for example, in a 1 vs 1 fight between them the GWS certainly can win but they have no chace against a pond of Orcas.
>>2341074>folded 100,000 times
Orcas vs Godzilla
>>2341074>whales aren't a threat to OrcasThe "apex predator" of the world's oceans is an adult bull sperm whale. Solitary hunters, they are known to intervene to save other whales from entire pods of Orcas. Unlike Orcas, they're also recorded as having destroyed human whaling ships on at least two occasions.Orcas are impressive and large pack hunting predators, but they aren't oceanic superman.
>>2338483Orcas, and that's it. Orcas do stay away of bull sperm whales. But dumb cool lizards are just not that big of a deal. Orcas will kill anything if they want it, it's all about one or two starting a new culture of hunting.
>>2338685>Thank God these things don't exist today or else traveling by sea would have been impossibleIt would be more dangerous, but who knows if they'd even attack ships. I mean a lot of animals alive today could sink small/medium ships, they just don't.
>>2343561>that absolute glorious feel when, even though everything else is shit and all the animals are boring, you live during the time period when the biggest animals ever to exist are alive right now
>>2343566...for all we know
>>2343566Except part of that picture is wrong. I've seen an orca in Miami and it was much, much smaller and slimmer. It was practically dainty. It was barely bigger than a moo-cow. Orcas IRL are much tinyer and dinkier than you see on TV. I imagine the babies are no bigger than a dolphin.
>>2339196>Orcas>Not dolphinsFound the dipshit
>driving a snowmobile over frozen ocean 50 million years in the future>this fucker erupts from under the ice and swallows you wholewhat do?
>>2345611Nothing, seeing as every part of its anatomy directly works against breaking through ice.
>>2345611Why is it that I just heard of this creature?
>>2345725You've just shown your IQ level
>>2345611What would cause something that size to care about eating something that small? It wouldn't be worth the energy expenditure