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The Plant General - Nepenthes bicalcarata Edition

Welcome to /plant/, the magical green place on this blue board. ITT: bonsai, '''bonsai''' and a high influx of normie houseplants.

/Plant/ is for the discussion of plants (obviously). Horticulturists, hobbyists and botanists welcome! Questions about plants? Want to show off your two inch dick-I mean plant? Maybe you want to start growing something new and exciting? Well come on over to /plant/!

Introducing a new basic caresheet with every thread: N. bicalcarata edition:
>simple lowland nep temps - hot days and warm nights (~30c/~20c as a very rough guide)
>the usual well-draining nep/orchid mix of peat/perlite/sphagnum/bark/etc. - do not allow to dry out
>hiiiiigh humidity - especially at younger sizes when thin leaves are still present
>good light, though no direct sunlight
>a healthy dosage of patience before you can experience the truly monstrous pitchers thrown out by large adult plants

For our carnivorous plant newbies:
Approved forums:
Terraforums.com
flytrapcare.com
CPUKforum.com

Good place(s) for newbie carnivorous plant growers:
sarracenia.com
nepenthesaroundthehouse.com

Previous thread: >>2512672
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>>2529858
First for poison ivy
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Why would you want vagina with fangs?
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>>2529669
Pls respond
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>>2530095
It's already in a plastic pot so clearly plastic doesn't hurt it. Go ahead and transplant it.
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Just picked this up. Wish me luck. Has a fly trap and sarracenia bulb in it. How long should it take for them to sprout?
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>>2530428
these are not bulb plants. post pic cuz you probably got scammed.
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Really curious if something like a love potion can be created by plants.
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>>2530517
I hate to break it to you, but magic isn't real.
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>>2530517
You can make someone horny with chemicals, but you can't make someone love you. At best they'll pump and dump, at worst you're so hideous they'll just go find someone more attractive and fuck them instead.
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>>2530509
It said they were dormant plants. They were what looked to be dried up plants with roots. I planted them in the container it came with. Pic is the finished product
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Would you guys put a recently bought dionaea into dormancy or wait for next winter?
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>>2530517
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>>2530746
I do it.
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>>2530428
Also as a side note, if I'm starting them in November, should I put them through a dormancy or wait out till next year?
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>>2529858
I'd love to see those ants fall in and get consumed the little black cunts
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Does anyone know how to overwinter Colocasia fontanesii and Colocasia 'Sangria'?
They are still small and were sitting in my pond during the summer.

Should I bring them inside or overwinter them in my dark garage?
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>>2530558
Ok, it might be ok. Keep in mind that these plants are bog plants and need to be constantly wet with distilled water. If they're dormant now, then put them in refrigerator until spring. Make sure that the temp is about 40f.
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>>2530811
Have this pic
>>2530428
You have been jewed my friend
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>>2530832
How did I get jew'd?
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>>2530428
>bulbs
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>>2530832
That's good thanks
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>>2530970
You like that?
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>>2530835
Sarracenia and dionea rhizomes are really not meant to be out of the soil for an extended amount of time. They aren't like iris or tulips, chances are that those rhizomes are dried out and dead. Dormant plants shouldn't be dry looking. Even during dormancy these plants want a fair amount of water.
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I'm trying to find out the species of all my plants. I didn't get any of them myself so I don't know what most are besides the easy ones. I'd like to know the actual specific care of them, so if anyone can help me narrow it down I'd be very grateful
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Are plants animals?
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>>2531006
No, plants are plants. Animals are hipster plants that do things differently from their plant ancestors.
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>>2531030
Animals are more primitive than plants.
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>>2530974
I love it when ants die. Got anymore?
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>>2531459
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New Nepenthes x miranda pitcher
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x rebecca soper
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Ventrata (ventricosa x alata)
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Finally, Aristolochioides x ventricosa
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>>2530998
When I opened the box what was inside was a bag of perlite, a smaller bag of perlite with the rhizomes in them and a bag of sphagnum moss. It all came with a small pot. I planted them and am now keeping them moist and cool for their dormancy, if they're even alive. What are my chances of them actually sprouting again? Pic related is the fly trap "rhizome", if you can even call it that.
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>>2531476
Beautiful. Take good care of those plants. I'll be sending positive thoughts their way
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I've been trying to identify a succulent that I had a few years ago that I bought from a hardware store. I have no pictures of it unfortunately, but I can describe it. It was a tall and slender succulent, shaped like an obelisk with a square base becoming more slender as it grew upwards as a single stalk. It had no leaves or cactus spines, but it did have some kind of spike like formations on the corners. At the time it had a pup growing off of it in a similar fashion to fairy castle. Thanks in advance for any help you can give.
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>>2531646
Dunno man, a healthy dionaea rhizome should look like this.
I think that's a sarracenia anyway, try keeping them alive and see if they grow, you can't lose anything now.
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Give it to me straight - will (can) my lucky bamboo survive the shitty Michigan winter? It’s getting yellow leaves all over...and the little ones growing have also turned yellow. is keeping it by the window hurting it because it’s cold?
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I have never been to /an/ before, so apologies if this isn't the right place for this.

Can anyone identify my friend's plant for me? She got it for her birthday. Apparently it likes it humid if that helps.
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>>2531791
Bamboo needs a lot of lighting and nuritents. Your plant is probably yellowing due to nitrogen deficiency. So, get some miracle grow and feed that guy.
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>>2531798
Thank you. It was a gift from my cute intern after I left my last job. I don’t want it to die
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So I have collected a fuckton of soda cans over the years and I want to plant something on them because I think they would look good.
I don't have any previous experience on growing plants. What should I start growing?
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>>2531767
I'm not very familiar with sarracenia. Should I plant it vertically with the root pointing down or should I plant it horizontally? I can't find an answer on Google.
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>>2531834
You should plant it horzontally. Try and see if you can find any bumps or developing leaves. These are the growth points and should be planted facing up. Do not bury the growth points under any soil.
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>>2531898
I planted it horizontally and found this bump. I left it uncovered by the moss. I'll give it a week and see how it does
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how to get white mold off of seeds?
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>>2531952
Take them out of your pants.
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I've decided to try and build my own greenhouse this winter so I can overwinter my tropical plants, which have gotten too numerous to keep indoors. It'll be a small and temporary greenhouse- I don't need to be able to walk into it. I'll put all my plants in it tightly packed together and include a small heater of some kind to keep the temperature mild.

I went to Lowe's today and looked at the stuff I will need. I've decided to use 1" PVC pipe to build the frame. It'll be 5'lx5'w and the pointed roof will be around 7 feet. Like I said, not very big. I'll use a 6-mil plastic sheet for the roof and walls. 6-mil is thick and durable plastic and will still let plenty of light in.

I'm aiming to build it for around $50. The plastic sheet is actually the most expensive part, the rolls at Lowe's were ~$25 each. PVC pipe was $2-$3 per five-foot bar, and each connector was around a dollar.

I'll let you know how it all goes.
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My crassula ovata spent the night outside in the snow. It seems okay, but has spots on its leaves where ice stuck to it. Is there anything I can do to help its chances of survival?
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>>2532137
what temperature do you hope to maintain (above outside temps.)?
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Dormancy
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Once the I guess "pitcher stem"? part of a pitcher plant dies will it produce another pitcher on the same leaf or is that entire Leaf just trash?
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Also how do you tell when a pitcher's finally dead this is my first one that ever sprung up and I have been wanting so badly to cut it open and see what's inside
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nsfw ?
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>>2532463
no, if the leaf is dead, there won't be another pitcher. The rest still photosynthesizes though, so it's not "trash".
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What can I do to increase pitcher growth for a Nepenthes? All the mature pitchers died, and there are maybe 2 or 3 immature pitchers that are a long way from opening. I live in the Northern hemisphere, if that helps.
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>>2532474
Google says this is South Africa's national fruit, but tells me nothing more about it and when I try to google for the national fruit, I only get the national bird.
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>>2532467
When a pitcher is dead it will turn black or brown and dry out.

>>2532481
Time and the correct conditions. The most important thing for pitchers is adequate light so you'll probably see fewer and smaller pitchers during the winter because of the shorter days.
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>>2532516
It's a parasitic plant which is why it's so alien and lacks green pigment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydnora
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Most sarracenia are starting to dry up their pitchers or are already dry, but this farhamii while not growing, still maintains them and gets some prey.
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Hello /plant/, this is my first time on /an/, though I've been a longtime anon on other boards. I don't know if you guys have any protocol, or if this is the right place to ask, so bare with me.

I found this plant on a ranch my family owns. It wasn't as common previously, and I've been having some trouble identifying it. The closest I got is Chamise, but every then I'm uncertain.

The ranch is a poorly managed and heavily invaded rangeland in Hockly County, Texas, and is 30 minutes away from the city of Lubbock.
Either confirmation or help on identifying this would be much appreciated

Also holy cow this board has a tiny max size for attached files
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>>2532737
Need a better picture.
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>>2531002
this is known as a "nerve plant"
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>>2532383
>what temperature do you hope to maintain (above outside temps.)?

well i live in oklahoma so our winters aren't frigid cold, but cold enough. really i'd be fine with the greenhouse being 60-70 degrees.
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the lost city of R´lyeh
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>>2532606
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growing tropical vines in the winter on the northern hemisphere is pretty hard
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>>2532474
>>2533207
It looks like something from the set of TNG
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>>2529858
wow this thread is still alive
I lost my tripcode so I guess no more tripfagging for me!
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>>2533319
wtfug is TNG ?
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>>2533452
Virgin sensibility media
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>>2530509
>>2530428
>>2530946
He meant a rhizome don't be autistic
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>>2533558
>he meant something completely different that he did not clarify
There's a big difference between a bulb and a rhizome. He's a retard either way and so are you for whiteknighting for him.
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Can anyone tell me what's wrong with my thunbergia cutting? It only has a few leaves, but all leaves display some degree of pic related. My guess would be it is leaf scorch combined with very high humidity as I keep it under artificial light in a grow box and recently put the lights closer.
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>>2533882
Looks like scorching.
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Doesn't look like scorching. There would be chlorosis around the burnt edges. What is your feeding regiment?
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Ok, looking at pic again. There's definite chlorosis. I'm used to monocots and they don't have veins everywhere. tell us your feeding regiment anyways.
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>>2533896
>>2533891

I'm not /plant/ enough just yet to have specific feeding regiments. I just planted it in a potting mix I bought at a hardware store.

I'm glad you guys think it's scorching though, that's a problem I can solve quite easily. Got overzealous with the LEDs because this is my first time trying to get cuttings to root and grow during winter. I guess cuttings/young plants don't need that much light after all. I just hope it's not too late. Much appreciated.
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>>2533902
cuttings rely on the stored energy and photosynthesis in the leaf. Since you scorched the chlorophyll and likely wrecked a lot of vacuoles... So, it's quite unlikely that your cuttings will survive. They might will survive but it would take a lot longer for equivalent growth from a healthy cutting. So, just make new cuttings.
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anyone else here orchid fag?
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>>2530428

>bulbs

Fly Traps are produced by tiny black seeds, not bulbs. baka

Venus Fly Traps should be planted preferably in Peat Moss and Perlite. Don't use a clay or terracotta put or you'll kill your plant. Traps' are mineral sensitive and since clay n' shit are porous, the minerals will kill your Traps shortly after sprouting.

If you can't get Perlite or Peat Moss, get some mineral sensitive soil. Whatever you do DON'T water your Traps' from your kitchen tap! Water the plant with Distilled water.

If anyone has any further Q's about Venus Fly Trap care & growing feel free to ask me.
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>>2533909
The leaves I scorched were new growth, quite big as well. It's actually not even a cutting anymore as it has quite vigorously rooted. I was thinking there is enough good leaf left for photosynthesis to take place. I scorched off a lot of leaf buds, but one or two survived, going to monitor their growth closely. My main concern right now is getting the light levels right, provided the plant isn't going to die from the stress caused by the scorching.
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>>2533918
Yep - Pleuros, terrestrials and a few scum phals.
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>>2533909
If it dies however, I'll just wait till spring before I take new cuttings. It is so much easier getting cuttings to root in June rather than November. Getting light/temperature/humidity right really is a bitch.
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>>2533954
paphs, phrags, and few phals here. i wanna grow cold terrestrials but i'll need to wait until i get my own property for it.
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>>2533951
Just move it lower. Light exponentially become darker with distance. Or, you could obscure it with other plants.
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>>2533961
Are you a member of an orchid society? Finding mine a little hard going... I'm probably too old to be on 4chan but still much younger than most of the members. Trying to get them to use social media/web sites etc to attract members is painful.
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>>2533965
No, cant be bothered to interact with delusional boomers. I agree that orchid community is rather fragmented atm. It's looking like fucking orchid subreddit is gonna be the center atm tho.
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any cacti people here ?
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>>2533918
yes my men, some dendrobiums, a couple of cattleyas, miltonias, paphio and a bunch more


>>2533995
you bet your sweet ass, succs were my first plants.
I dont have nathing extra fancy but i love them
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>>2534033
bet what ?
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>>2533965
Welcome to anything plant related
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Don't talk to me or to my son ever again
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>>2533968
>>2534349
leddit - please no! But agree the orchid community seems all over the place. I'm trying to influence from the inside...

I just want to grow plants, enjoy them and share that with others for a few hours once a month. Last meeting most of the members just pretended I wasnt in the room! Some welcoming though
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>>2531798
Isn't lucky bamboo actualy not a bamboo?
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>>2534634
Seems like you're right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dracaena_braunii
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>>2534595
IMO, AOS is beyond the point of fixing. Just let the tumor die. I've been working on making a new website for database and stuff. My goal is to make a cutting edge internet based orchid community.
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>>2534647
I'm not in the US - but its the same everywhere I think. No one actually wants the change and would rather see it die. I'd welcome a new forum/internet community although honestly it seems everyone is on facebook for that now.
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>>2534261
That's naaaaasty

>bet what?

Your sweet sweet ass
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>>2534349
The Spanish Carnivorous Plant Association is pretty welcoming and active.
The bad part is that people follow the common caresheets you can find online, and lots of times it doesn't work well in our weather since they are made by brits and dutch, and they argue with you if you point out that flytraps can roast under our sun if you use small pots.
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>>2532969
>nerve plant
Hot damn, thank you anon! I want to start taking better care of my plants, and the first step is to actually ID them and figure out what i even have. Most of my plants are gifts from people who were killing them.

I'm assuming pic related is just English Ivy. If anyone has any other suggestions I'm all ears.
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>>2534770
Yes, that is an English ivy.
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>>2529858
Can you lose your virginity to a plant? Asking for a friend
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>>2535149
You didn't?
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>>2533693
yes obviously they are very different. based of the situation thought its easy to see why he got it mixed up.
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>>2533995
>>2533996
>>2533998
>>2534033
what type of soil do you guys use? I usually just throw some sand and gravel and a tiny bit of compost and call it a day
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>>2535177
I use a mixture of gravel, sand, black peat and hummus.
They seem to like it a lot and the differences between the first and the last day of the spring/summer season are more than noticeable.
I also throw a little of guano on the big ones once every summer.
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>>2531791
>>2531798
'lucky bamboo' is actually a type of Draceana, I believe. not at all frost hardy.
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>>2532189
don't leave it in the cold. in my experience, they can tolerate a little cold, for a short period, but not long term
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Just rescued this little guy from a nursery. It was labeled as an alata, but its probably a ventrata.

The poor thing had a completely dry soil and wrinkled leaves, and as you can see not a single pitcher.

Any advice for someone new to nepenthes? Im experienced with dionaeas and droseras, but never had a nepenthes. Any advice?

It has black spots in the backside of the lower leaves, is it normal?
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>>2535574

Also, I feel like the poot is way too small for the size of the plant, I'm considering repotting it in a couple weeks when it gets adapted to its new location.

Is pure sphagnum good for neps?
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Thanks to the anon from the /out/ thread who redirected me here. Shows how new I am to plant discussion here and gardening in general.

Reposting it here:
Can anyone identify this?
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>>2535592
And this? Sorry for the flood of images.

PlantNet doesn't seem very helpful for Equatorial or at least Asian plants.
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>>2535594
A final one, I promise. Grateful for anyone who can identify any one of these. Thanks!
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>>2535574
The same humidity and lighting that dionaea and drosera need is good for nepenthes, just year round. Ventrata is especially easy to grow.
>>2535578
I recall them needing more breathable soil, a mixture of ground sphagnum, unground sphagnum fibers, and perlite. Should do more in-depth research on that.
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>>2534754
what is that succ in the middle?
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>>2535574
Bright but indirect light is often recommended, but the easier species will definitely tolerare direct sun if it isn't too intense. If you're in the northern hemisphere it's winter right now and sun should be alright. Probably not gonna get pitchers with the current light levels though (unless you put it under a lamp of course), they slow down for winter. Growth starts to pick back up in spring.

Humidity from is very important for pitcher production, and normally they want at least 60%, though a ventrata will probably still pitcher at normal indoors humidity (50%).

>>2535578
They normally don't have much of a root system but yeah, you should probably repot. Wait a month or so, they're slow to adapt. Pure sphagnum is fine, but try not to compact it at all. They want really well draining soil. You can mix in some perlite/bark too.
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>>2536381
>>2535636

Same plant 1 day later, I guess it looks happier now with proper watering.

Hope it gets big and healthy!
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>>2536355
Kill yourself.
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guys help my sarracenia he is not doing dormancy well
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also my parents got me a grow chamber so I have that to look forward to after finals fuck my ass i guess
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>>2536889
It's normal for the top stuff to die off a bit, they store all the energy in their rhizomes and use that to make new pitchers in spring. Some people who live in the tropics winter their plants by cutting them down to the rhizomes and putting them in the refrigerator.
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>>2536583
i will soon enough, but not before I know what it is
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>>2536355
Kalanchoe Thyrsiflora
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>>2530547
H-how do I acquire this chemicals?
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What is the most fuckable plant?
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>>2537136
Nepenthes
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>>2537135
Drug dealers or the liquor store
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>>2537217
Um
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>>2537262
Kinky
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Hey guys. I am an aquafag coming over here to show you my favorite aquatic plant, bucephalandra sp.
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>>2537217
god damn 4chan - at least no one has posted that webm yet... if you have to ask you've not seen it - lets just say the nepenthes gets fed.
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Last wasp of the year
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>>2536889

Looks like a perfectly healthy plant going dormant. Nothing to worry about.
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>>2537360
Oh yeah, the guy that comes into the ventrata pitcher
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>>2537522
is this a good food source for nep? easier than finding bugs and stuff for them.
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>>2537547
You can just feed them fish pellets
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Need to set up a terrarium to try and keep my nep alive. Any recommended reading for tutorials? Any setup advice?
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Debating tossing all my big plants and switching 100% to tiny little friendly cacti. I have way too much crap.
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>>2537773
Depending on your climate I think that's a good idea.
Pic related are some of my year old seedlings from a mixed species packet in the stenocactus/echinofossulocactus genus, you should try those.
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>>2537782
I have a bunch of seeds I've been needing to plant for ages. Just put it off because of preoccupation.
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>>2537773
Plants are not "crap" you girl-brained piece of shit. I hope you get malignant ovarian and breast cancer that spreads to your little pea-brain. Fuck you.
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>>2537802
...kay.
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>>2537591
This
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>>2537681
It depends on what conditions you are trying to correct for. Are you trying to provide more light or humidity? If you only need more light a wire rack is much simpler to set up and maintain. I advise against terrariums because they create as many issues as they solve and most nepenthes will grow too tall for a terrarium within a couple years. Unless your house humidity is truly low, around 35%, you won't actually need the terrarium. What species of nepenthes is it?
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>>2537858
Humidity is 0%. Also cold. It's just a ventrata.
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This thread is exactly what I was looking for. I've never been here before, but I just want to grow something, I just have the urge to grow something, maybe it's cause I'm lonely or I want to take care of something. Anyone have an suggestions?
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>>2537865
Jade plant is foolproof. If you can't grow a jade plant then you should kys.
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>>2537865
just go to home depot and buy a few small pots and some soil and buy some flowers and veggies that look nice. Theres a guide on the back for when you should plant in your are its not perfect but it works. follow that for which to buy and just start. Youll probably fail with some but thats the fun of a hobbie
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>>2537262
Ugly desu
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>>2537865
Guava plant. Strawberry or lemon guava. Just make sure you structure the plants and don't let them run amok. I let mine run amok and just recently decided to try getting control. I'm sitting next to a guava plant that's had shibari used on it.
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>>2537860
Damn, that is really low. Where are you located to get humidity like that? A few things that are necessary for a terrarium will be a small fan to keep air circulating within the tank, a way to elevate your pot off the bottom so it doesn't sit on the bottom, and artificial lighting because sunlight will cause an enclosed system to heat up too much. For heating one thing I've seen is people putting an aquarium heater into a jar of water. Try finding a terrarium that is tall rather than long. Ventrata is a hybrid that will quickly get too tall for the standard long style tank. If you expect to expand your collection it might be worth looking into a grow tent. They will provide much more room for vines to grow out.
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>>2537940
It's just winter with a hot air blower heater. Humidity doesn't really exist unless I turn on a humidifier.
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>>2537131
>Kalanchoe Thyrsiflora
thanks m8
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New orbea flower, this specimen stinks particularly bad.
Also why the fuck do slugs keep gnawing them? Do they eat carrion too?
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>>2536889
It's completely normal.
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>>2538092
Many (maybe of most) slugs are predatory and probably don't mind eating dead meat also.
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>>2538122
And by slugs I mean Limacidae (keelback slugs).
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>>2538123
Yeah, I was specifically talking about Ambigolimax valentianus.
Thanks for the info frend.
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>>2538075
No problem mateee
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>buy this because why not
>find out it's a loong running scam that Amazon/eBay seem to not care about
Fuck
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>>2538391
The seeds are not even from flytraps, they are Celosia plumosa
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>>2538391
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My grow tent.

Notable plants:
very happy ultimate jew orchid on the top left corner of highest create: paph rothschildianum
phrag kovachii chilling at lower left corner
top right corner is the complex corner with few buds coming up
top lower corner is mostly random paph species, you can see maliponese and fairreanum buds coming up.
bottom left is phal corner and you can see my baby giganteas and violacea there.
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>>2538416
I hope I can get my grow tent this crowded soon. I've just got one pot that has a cape sundew and a lot of pygmies lining the ground.
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>>2538419
I had to downgrade from 4x4 to 3x3 grow tent. Very annoying, I cant just walk into the tent and water plants inside and relax in it anymore.

Go for biggest tent you can get, it's good idea.
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>>2538421
I've got a 2x2 because I'm poor, someday I might get a massive 12x12 or so if not a greenhouse.
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>>2538424
I feel you but 4x4 is probably best ratio between price and /comfy/. These are usually like 7 feet tall so you can just walk in and set up a table or something. It's basically a mini greenhouse that doesn't need heating.
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>>2538425
In my state I'd need cooling which is a lot more expensive, the California sun is brutal to transparent enclosed spaces.
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>>2538427
You use grow tents indoors, so it would cost nothing if you're already using air conditioning for your home.
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>>2538429
I mean if I used a greenhouse I'd need cooling rather than heating, which makes grow tents better for me.
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my stepfather bought corzonera hispanica as food
can i use the root to regrow it just like with leeks?
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>>2538438
probably yes
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>>2538391
I thought the broken English these listing have would have been enough to warn anyone away.
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>>2530832
Stick your dick in it for good measure.
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>>2529858
/an/, you're my only hope! if there were plant themed sex toys, what would be your ideal pick?
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>>2538614
Old man cactus
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Are there any good grow lights out there that don't cost a fuckton? Preferably in bulb form. Was debating trying a 5w bulb from AliExpress for $2.50.
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>>2538673
just go led, electricity bills will thank you.
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Quick question: is it normal for my cactus offspring to be turning brown/purple? There is no visible rot or decaying at the base, and there is no wrinkling of the offspring. Just a change in color. I'm in southwest California, and cold weather is barely settling in here in the early mornings. Should I repot and take it inside?
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>>2538748
usally color change means that its using chlorophyll b. it could be rotting or something else, im not great with cactuses.
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I live in massachusetts and my plant shelf is in a south facing window so it gets decent light. I would love to grow venus fly traps, napenthes, san pedro cactus, and some herbs - like chives, basil, parseley, etc. Is this possible in the setup I described? Would I need a light? I have a 10 gallon tank I'd like to stock with some gold fish or neon tetras - could I rig up a watering system that uses the fish tank water for the plants (I know carnivorous plants don't need soil nutrients)?
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>>2538786
Of those plants one you cannot grow indoors is the venus flytrap. Growing it indoors will cause it to skip its winter dormancy which will cause it to die in a few seasons. I'd avoid any temperate plants for a windowsill. As for the light it depends on how many hours of sunlight the window gets. Above 6 and you should be able to grow most medium light houseplants.
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>>2538786
a) you need a refrigerator for your Venus fly trap for dormancy cycle as other anon pointed out.
b) nepenthes should do ok
c) you need a lot of lighting for cactuses. are you supplementing them with led?
d) chives and basil can just grow outdoors
e) you dont need a watering system, just use a cup lol.
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I just learned that the flytrap cultivar "Ginormous" was rescued from the wild and it's not been selected artificially for size. It's pretty impressive for a plant that rivals the famous "B52" and "DC XL" in size and vigor.
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I bought some seeds from chinamen... I have learned my lesson. What is this?
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>noobs still continue buying fake seeds off of chinks
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>>2539023
Cyclamen?
idk if I'd consider those weeds though, what did you think they were going to be?
>>2538748
Nah colour differences are usually far more uniform than that.
Definitely looks like a disease or insect damage.
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>>2539023
As the other anon said, most likely Cyclamen
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>>2538500
how to do it?
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>>2538614
dildo cactus
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>>2539119
dig a hole and stick them in it.
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>>2538391
dude

are you a retart?
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Hey plant people, the 4chan winter cup is coming up and the /an/ team managers are currently going over the roster adn adjusting it. There is one open spot and we noticed we don't have any /plant/ reps on there, but we would definitely want one since this general is a mainstay of the board.

So, any plant based suggestions for a player? Something that comes up in these threads often, or is a meme in here would be great.
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>>2539766
This is a pretty slow general, so please do wait for some conversation to happen, if people even want a rep that is.

My personal suggestion would be "SUCC" or something else commentators would enjoy saying.
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>>2539099
>>2539061
Thanks. It was supposed to be a bleeding heart plant.
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>>2539433
can it be indoors?
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>>2540660
Yes but you need dedicated lighting. Minimum of 1000 lumens.
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So, I just did my first nepenthes cuttings and flytrap pullings.

I have them with 10 hours of lighting, is it enough?

How long does it take to see any noticeable growth?
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Found this photo from my old collection today

>>2540840
Nepenthes cuttings can take a bit. I find that it can be a month or two before you can see any growth. What nep are you rooting, what method are you using?
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It was a boring ventrata that was getting too big, I cut the vine in some pieces and put them in pure sphagnum.
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This thing flowered today. Anyone know what it is or can point me in the right direction? I was told it was a begonia but im not really seeing the resemblance. I have another picture of just the leaf if necessary
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>>2541496
>I was told it was a begonia
It is a Begonia hybrid. They're called Rieger, x hiemalis, Elatior.
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>>2541557
>Begonia hybrid
Thanks friend, I appreciate. That looks much more like my plant. If only I can get it to flower like this.
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Man this cellphone makes terrible pictures
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And with this one I'll finish my retarded venus flytrap collection that I'll be showing you next spring, as you can see most of them are dormant and look terrible now
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>>2539766
Fuck off you Reddit shits.
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for u
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do you guys like my
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>>2542815
They go well with my gaping vagina.
I envy you mang, cacti explode here.
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>>2531684

might be a variety of hawaorthia, the description sounds familiar. Maybe a Crassula as well
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>>2531795

A variety of Kalanchoe, looks like one of the ones forced for winter flowering.

>>2537338

That's kawaii as fuck, thank you.

>>2538416
Get cardboard or something and wrap it in tin foil and put it up against the walls for additional light if needed.
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>>2542783
Nice cattleya my friend
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Is there any plant with something close to a brain or nervous system?
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>>2542832
Oh excellent, here is my donger 4 u

I actually live in the pacific northwest tho, so I use a grow tent and have gotten some great results. Neps are a bit intimidating for me.
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>you will never have your own botanical garden with massive greenhouses
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Is it alright to propagate a cactus via cuttings in the winter? The cactus is indoors and not blooming but it has become very large and is overgrowing its pot significantly. I want to take cuttings of the stalks, but I've never done this before.

Is it okay to do this in winter?
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>>2543021
You shouldn't be. The northwest is one of the best places in the continental US for growing highland nepenthes. Just need to protect them from the winters and the very hottest summer days.
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So I posted about an aloe plants I had gotten from Lowe's on clearance. I've nursed it back to health and I think it is blooming. How did I do this?
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>>2543091
Here is what the plant looked like a month ago.
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>>2543091
>How did I do this?
By being a good person.
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>>2543096
Thank you, but what I meant was did I do something on accident? I thought that aloe varieties were hard to flower. Its also winter so I'm just confused
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>>2543101
well for some reason the plant thinks it's blooming time. i tend not to question these things.

my orchids just pick random times of the year to bloom. spring, summer, fall, winter- doesn't matter. they just bloom when they want to and i don't really question it.
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>>2542987
Mimosa pudica and Dionaea muscipula
Are there any other fast reaction plants?
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>>2542876
>>>2538416
>Get cardboard or something and wrap it in tin foil and put it up against the walls for additional light if needed.
Something painted matte white is supposedly the best light reflector.

>>2543253
>Dionaea muscipula
Don't know the other, but flytraps are mechanical traps, so I don't think you can say it's 'close to a nervous system'?
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is it possible to have too many plants in room? i mean- can it be detrimental to have a lot of plants in room? my mother says that at night plants take oxygen from air and level of oxygen drops at night and it is unhealthy to be in such a place with low oxygen level
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Any indoor edible people have advice for controlling fungus gnats? I've moved a lot of stuff to hydroponic setups, but I can't get rid of soil completely, I have various peppers and veggies that require the depth and support of large pots.

We've tried spraying the peroxide mix after drying out the soil beds, but so far no luck. Anyone got anything that's worked for them?
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>>2543396
yellow sticky traps and bacillus thuringiensis israelensis
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>>2543383
I can't even come up with a witty response for such a silly question. You know better than this you fucking fool

are rainforests completely inhospitable due to a lack of breathable air? do the animals in a lush jungle constantly die of oxygen deprivation? do all those plants suck up the oxygen from the air and make the area uninhabitable?
are either of you aware that plants do not consume oxygen, but rather produce it as a byproduct of photosynthesis when they take in carbon dioxide?
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>>2543668
Plants only produce oxygen when in light. They burn their stored energy to get through the night, which consumes oxygen. Your point about rainforests is valid though.
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>>2543682
>>2543383
It's not really a problem since you need way less oxygen when sleeping anyway, but if you're worried you could use CAM plants (eg succulents) since they produce oxygen at night.
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>>2542815
>>2542832
>>2543021
i think those are euphorbia obesa, not cacti (albeit, in practice, they are)
>>2543374
i think mylar is the best light reflector
>>2543396
diatomite all the way
>>2543704
its a negligible thing anyway, stupid people somehow think that a 1kg plant will somehow consume much more o2 than, lets say, a dog or a human, you cannot hear plants breathing by the way, and they produce more o2 than they consume (most likely much more during the active growing season) plants do not need animals to live, volcanoes already fart tons of co2
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>>2543763
that is correct! However, quite a few of them are hybrids at this point, either with e. horrida or e. tubligans.

>>2538416
nice tent! what size is it? do you use any ventilation or just keep a high humidity?
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>>2543868
whoops. i finally read the thread and realized the size.
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Nepenthes enjoying the winter sun
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>>2544127
Also I put all the S. Purpurea hybrids in the same pot
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>find seeds for a plant I want to try growing again that is exceptionally rare
>only two retailers
>one is a European seller that doesn't ship to the US
>other is an Israeli seller that's pricey
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>>2544820
Whats the plant?
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>>2544820
>an Israeli seller that's pricey
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What species of sarracenia is this one?

My guess is purpurea x something
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>>2545006
Catesbaei, flava x purpurea
Or maybe oreophila x purpurea
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>>2544820
welwitschia isn't that rare
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>>2544931
Wittia amazonica. Jungle cactus. Managed to get one once before but it died due to demanding high humidity. Versus most where they just thrive and desire it, without good air humidity the damn things die completely. Have been thinking of buying some seeds and growing them up from nothing in a vivarium.
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>>2538748
>high organic content in potting medium
>glass

stop this madness
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>>2543026
This is my dream.
Luckily huge greenhouses aren't actually that expensive. You could get a really big one for like 30k. I guess land could be a problem, but that depends on where you want to live.
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>>2543036
It's possible, but taking cuttings in the winter but it's a huge pain the ass. Once rooted cuttings like humidity, light and warmth. Providing all of that in the right amount indoors during winter is harder than it sounds. Just speaking for cuttings in general by the way, never grown cacti so it might be different for those.
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>>2535177
Don't listen to anything else but this: Al's gritty mix is the best potting I've used. Caudiciforms, cacti, succulents, citrus. The potting medium only breaks down after ~10 years. I probably have some 200 or so species in it and I'll never go back, ever.
Pic related is what you end up with. 1:1:1 Turface, Cherrystone chicken grit #2 (can use whatever crushed granite but the faint purple hue is pretty aesthetic) and pine bark. Most important step is to run it over a screen to get all the fines out. I've started moving some tropicals into this with good luck even. My citrus struggled and failed until they were moved. It is a bit more expensive unless you get really good deals on the components, but the fact that you hardly have to replace it helps. And even then, only the 1/3rd organic component, the pine bark, breaks down and you can recycle the rest. I also drill larger holes in the pot and cover with drywall tape to keep everything from falling through.
I can go into detail about /why/ it is a superior mix, but the basis is the high porosity prevents oversaturated pockets at the base leading to root death which results in liquefied plant mush.
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>>2545446
The real costs come in heating and cooling. I wouldn't be surprised if the total energy bill came out to close to 10K a year
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Kinda retarded question here:

Can plants get 'sunburn' due to artificial lighting? Im talking about CFL and led. Or is it just caused by heat?
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>>2545452
I'll try this with my succs, thanks man
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>>2545452
A bag of Turface comes in at $50+ looking at it from this side. The cost associated has always prevented me from trying that.
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>>2545573
yas

pic unrltd
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>>2545123
reply plox
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Are growing lights a meme?
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>>2545709
what du yuo mean ?
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>>2545709
They work pretty well, just fullfil the plants requirements.
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>>2545710
>>2545711
>SUCCS
>requirements
>implying
I water my succs once a week during the summer. Do I water as if it's summer being that it's getting summer-tier light? Does ambient temperature come into play?
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>>2545714
i swear not, the soil does not dry nowhere as fast as outdoors in a dry and hot climate
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>>2545717
I live in the bay area, so it isn't that dry. I guess I'll stick to fingering my succs once a week to determine dryness
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>>2545458
Depends on the climate. I live in the Netherlands and keeping the temperature between 18C and 30C in a greenhouse really wouldn't cost me 10k a year. But I can imagine that it can get that expensive in more extreme climates
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>>2545573
Yes
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>>2545709
They always end up burning my plants for some reason, even at the height of 60cm
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>>2545660
Holy shit that is insane. I would be skeptical too. There's some people saying the cat litter material substitutes but there's also people saying that the high silica content (I think this was it) causes weird discolorations on the plants. Can you get pumice? Guy I know had some great success with using only pumice, screened, of the proper size.

>>2545589
screening and mixing is a bitch but it is worth it. For most plants in general you want a screened material, tropical or otherwise to prevent root anoxia. There are plants that are adapted to low O2 in the root zone like carnivorous plants that aren't phased, but with desert plants and tropicals it makes a difference.
Also when using the gritty mix I advise against terracotta, it causes uneven drying. I figured the way around this is to use some orange wood wax without harsh chemicals that I think was mostly bees wax, but I forget. Looks nice and waterproofs it.

Maybe I'll post some of my collection but most of the cool ones are dormant caudiciforms.
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>>2545452
>>2545760
What kind of tropicals do you grow in the gritty mix? You peaked my curiosity.
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>>2545778
They aren't the "grow in a terrarium" hardcore tropicals, just general houseplants, but I have one of the large cane begonias, and one of the smaller begonias. Also a parlor palm, the very basic pothos, two philodendron varieties, a christmas cactus or two,
I've got a coffee tree (bush?) that is now about 3ft tall and 2ft wide in it as well. You can adjust the mixture to suit the plant- more granite when you want less moisture, generally, and with the tropicals I usually add more pine bark, with a bit more turface and less granite. I got tired of cutting up my vines from the hanging pots so I could repot them when the soil turned to dust, so that was my inspiration for trying it out on them. Works well and I am even playing with 100% turface/granite so the medium would never break down.
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>>2545759
that light is 7w only
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>>2545709
no but you need to understand how lighting and plants work to not get ripped off.
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>>2543868
high humidity with a cpu fan to make the air not stale.
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>>2542876
there's too much light as it already is. you can see the pingculina turning red lol.
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>>2545897
Alright well, I grow quite a bit of tropical plants and I was thinking of deviating from the regular soil I use. Right now I'm using a generic potting soil you can get for pennies at the hardware store and even though it has been fine I feel like experimenting with a more sophisticated soil. Would you recommend the mix as an all purpose sort of soil for tropicals?
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>>2545760
>>2545452
>>2545660

+ 1 for Al's gritty mix. In regards to the Turface price, I've found that if you substitute pumice in equal amounts it works almost as well if not the same. When I make a big mix, I typically screen standard potting soil of fine particles to just get the bigger chunks, chicken grit (aka granite. Not 'chick' grit, as these particles are much smaller and may even be made of something else, such as oyster shell, which degrades), and pumice. My cacti and succs love it.
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Anyone have developed an automated/semi-automatic watering system? I'm thinking about making one for my grow tent.
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>>2546011
I'd say just go for it. I've been pleasantly surprised trying it with plants that I wasn't sure would work out. If you have any trees/citrus for sure do it with those. You will probably have to water a slight bit more, but when you do water there is no ponding ontop of dry soil, and no dry pockets left after watering. The water pooling ontop was a pain in the ass so good riddance to that. What won't happen is full saturation of the lower 25% of the pot after watering, which kills/weakens roots and wastes the plant's energy repairing or maintaining. Also I recommend mycorizzha fragment powder, which will colonize the potting medium with white fibers of symbiotic fungi. Has the added bonus of periodically sprouting mushrooms when the plants go in the grow tent for winter. Some of the more exotic plants I've grown have struggled to do well until the potting medium was colonized, like my Adenia venenata from seed.
If you want to really get into the interesting territory check out semihydroponics. Works excellent with orchids, all sorts of succulents/cacti/caudiciforms, tropicals of all types, particularly ones that you want to boost humidity with.
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>>2546050
Why bother, if you don't mind me asking. Humidity in confined grow spaces should already be very high, making watering not something that has to be done frequently. Unless your 'grow tent' is actually a large greenhouse I don't think it's worth the effort.

>>2546052
Alright man, I'll try to get some cutting going and maybe even repot a few plant into the gritty mix come spring. Will try semihydroponics when I finally start growing orchids. Does it have any benefits over regular soil?
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>>2546071
cuz i'd lower the humidity so that i can pump in more water+ferts so that my plants will grow faster. also, my tent is really crowded so, it's a pain in the ass to water them.
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>>2546071
Probably one of the best benefits of the gritty mix is that you have to really go full retard to overwater plants to death, even cacti/succulents. Semihydroponics = faster, healthy [non-stretched] growth for desert plants, and is 100% impossible to overwater. So you can put super strict barely-any-water-ever plants in an environment where they are constantly moist, and they will grow far faster if you are able to provide enough light. Full sun, and then I go with a the really powerful LED blue/red arrays in the cold season. I've heard from people that there are some concerns about salt buildup in the LECA/hydroton/etc., but I've had no such issues yet.
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>>2546001
it's $16
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>>2546193
what was the wattage
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>>2546196
7watts
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>>2530770
how much did you pay for that weed? where can i get some?
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>>2546197
you got ripped off. 7 watt led is a joke. you appear to be growing jade plant, so that needs like 40 watt at least. or, you could just put it at a window.
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>>2546197
>>2546292
>>2546286
speaking of weed, i bet a weed growing shop will always sell you decent lights cause thats the point of indoor growing, if they sold shit then weed wouldnt grow
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>>2546296
yes, weed industry was very beneficial for getting tech to catch up in indoor plant growing. also, keep in mind, weed industry marks the shit up on weed specific products because stoners are dumb. just look at what they use and buy the stuff without LMAO420CANNABIS logos on it.
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>>2545709
Grow lights are... god damn it. They work, but buying them is a pain in the ass. Pretty much all of them are either sourced from China. Most of them are intentionally mislabeled as marketed as being a higher wattage than they are. There are no trusted brands and I know of nobody going through and giving proper electrician testing all these bulbs and contraptions.
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>>254309 They often brown off when moved or transplanted then regain green colour
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>>2530811
If that's the type of ant I think it is, they can actually climb the walls and swim in the pitcher's fluid to steal dead insects from the plant.
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I just bought these two for 5 bucks and I wonder if I have identified them correctly.
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I just bought a hydrangea and i don't know nothing about plants besides beans.
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>>2546292
I just need it to grow and not die in the winter brah
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>>2546470
Surely a worthwhile sacrifice, in transaction for the diligent protection from pests provided by the ants. It's a symbiotic relationship after all.
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>>2546538
It doesn't need the light in the winter, it'll just do dormant without it. Nothing wrong with that
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also dormancy encourages flowering later on
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>hort prof saves landscaping section for the final
>you don't actually have to take the final
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Is caring for a plant easy? I bought some poisonous nightshade seeds and I was wondering what it took to make it grow.
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>>2546588
It can't get plant gains in winter. Currently it's still sprouting leaves at summer-speeds despite just being repotted a few days ago and, more importantly, me being an absolute retard
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my tissue culture H.minor
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my N.inermis germination is sccusessfly
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and my growing green pepe
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green pepe is illuminating fungi
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I built an automatic watering system the other day
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Where can I purchase a set of Japanese Fighting plants?
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Wasabi
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>>2547139
>>2547141
Looking good, can you tell a bit about your setup (flow hood etc.). I always wanted to try some sterile propagation but in the end never bothered.
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what is slower, lophophora or aztekium ritteri ?
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>>2547384
i've 'grown' both from seed, aztekium obviously, lophophora is fast AF and I only got like 3 baby spines on my aztekium after 1 year of growth before they died.
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>>2547386
what were your growth rates before they died ?
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>>2547386
>>2547441
better yet, for both things
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>>2547294
with simple DIY clean bench use
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>>2547477
>reported to the FBI for the homemade antrax lab
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Finally I made over 50 flasks from few H.minor seed
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Finally harvested my stapeliad seeds.
I just tore of one of those pollen carrying things and shoved it somewhere else on the flower and it apparently fertilised?
I tried searching if the species was self fertile but couldn't find anything, it's not a common plant as far as I can tell.
>>2547441
>>2547444
Yeah so aztekium stayed the same size after the seed pod fell off, around .5 mm for 6 months. After that it grew to about 1mm. Lophophora is like 2 mm in 1 month but I haven't given them good conditions at all.
Are you thinking of trying?
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>>2547166
>>2547165
That is fucking cool, can you tell us more?
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>>2547543
i have never had any type of aztekium, i have seedlings of lophs and other things that i should graft in spring
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>>2547712
luminous mushrooms
easy to grow as shiitake
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>>2547793
What conditions do they need, and where can I get them?




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