Discuss anything aquarium related here, including inhabitants, decor and issues.Search engines are your friend.Feel free to ask questions but know that there are a lot of resources out there that could answer your question a lot faster and accurately than /an/.Make sure to include these things in your post before asking because we can't help you if we don't have the full picture:-tank size (include dimensions, not just volume)-parameters (ammonia, nitrate, nitrite, pH, GH, KH)-any and all inhabitants + how long you've had them-pictures are always helpfulLinks:Tank Cycling:>https://www.petcha.com/freshwater-aquarium-cycling/>https://www.petcha.com/fishless-aquarium-cycling-method/Care Guides:>http://seriouslyfish.com/Plants and Animals for sale:>http://www.petsolutions.com/>http://www.aquabid.com/>http://www.liveaquaria.comOld thread: >>2619473
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Anyone using a DIY citric acid CO2 system? I'm planning to use one in my 30g but I have no idea what I'm in for.
>>2624839I did the DIY with yeast before so I could drink the byproduct (kilju).
>>2624841I tried yeast, absolutely useless, that's why I want to switch to citric acid + baking soda.
>>2624842just get a paintball cheapo set up for ~100 bucks or under. you get a 20 oz paintball tank. You get an adapter. You get a mini reg. refills are 4 bucks
>>2624843I was thinking more in the $20 range. The entire set that's supposed to go on two soda bottles is $16 and I already have a bubble counter and a diffuser.
>>2624842You need to have the right amount of sugar and it also helps to keep the whole thing warm.
>>2624845I did have the right amount of sugar and the temperature was right too. It's shit.
>>2624848I wonder where you went wrong? Perhaps your system wasn't sealed well enough.
>>2624844yeah it is cheaper. but it isnt nearly as consistent and inconsistent co2 can cause problems
Who is you're youtube fishfu?
>>2624849Doubtful, I used fittings.>>2624853The lack of CO2 can cause plant death, there's no problem worse than that.
>>2624857just run an airstone then. air is 400 ppm co2. water is normally 4 ppm. A 24/7 airstone will keep co2 and o2 constant.
>>2624859If you mean a bubbler, I already use one 24/7, but it's only raising CO2 to 15 ppm which unfortunately doesn't do a damn thing for my eleocharis.
>>2624862>eleochariswhy buy plants that don't work in your setup when theres like a hundred or two that will
Is the chain part of micro chain sword supposed to be under the substrate or above?
>>2624863she has nice big titties
>>2624864Because that's not how liking things work. There are a hundred and two plants I don't like to have. There's one that I do. So I'm trying to adjust my setup for it to work. Yeast didn't do a thing, citric acid CO2 is next which at least can be turned off for the night.>>2624863>>2624866I couldn't care less how she looks, she has relevant information that always worked so far.
>>2624863appearance 1/10 - she might be alright if she lost the weight and had natural hair.fishkeeping 9/10total 10/10For a bulldyke shes alright
>>2624867>Because that's not how liking things workyou're probably the kind of faggot that buys a dog you can't care for adequately because it looks cool
>>2624867I bought her book last week
Why doesnt she make youtube videos anymore? did all the creepers scare her off?https://www.youtube.com/user/tithra33/
>>2624869>hurr plants suffer just as animals durrUnless there's news I didn't hear about a discovery that all plants have a central nervous system, you can fuck right the hell off.
>>2624872im not the faggot who buys things they can't properly care for and then asks people to solve his problem and then gets mad when the adequate solution is something you can't afford on mcdonalds/neet wages
>>2624874>hurr I get pissed when I can't force my opinion on people durrI wasn't asking you to give me a fuck expensive a compressed CO2 gas solution, I was asking people who have a citric acid CO2 system about their experiences. So again, fuck off!
>>2624875That's the thing, I did use citric acid a few years ago, and I found it to be a waste of money and time. Seems like you want to learn the hard way, please tell us how amazingly it works for you after you have it set up for 4 minutes and see a bubble. >Look guys it works! Haha stupid regulatorfags
>>2624868more likely average = 5/10
>>2624865>micro chain swordI know it's a plant but I had to do a double take and make sure this was /aq/ and not a 40k or gears of war thread I was in
>it's a betta eats the entire fucking wafer episode and bloats themselvesthis is getting frustrating
hey, just a question. I need some help with an idea i have.i plan on having a stand like in the image with 3 5.5 or possibly 10 gallon tanks, the top 2 containing 1 betta each and the very bottom one acting as a makeshift "sump" containing a 20 gallon HOB, a heater and some plants for added filtration. I want to pump water from the bottom tank into the top one and have an overflow from the top into the middle then from the middle into the bottom. my main goal is to basically have 2 betta tanks with nothing in them except the scape and the bettas. has anyone done something like this? does anybody have any advice for accomplishing this?
>>2624856>trying to make /aq/ a waifufaggot general
I have a 12 gallon lightly planted tank with 2 pea puffers, 3 bumblebee gobies, and 4 white cloud minnows. i moved two inch-long honey gouramis into another tank after noticing very quickly their fins were totally eaten up by the puffers, and now it seems like the puffers have taken big chunks out of the white cloud's tail fins. they're going to be sent over to my other tank very, very soon.... very pissed at these puffers!they leave the gobies alone, i suppose because their coloring seems to warn of toxicity, but i want a fish that will add some color and movement to the tank and still not get eaten. any luck with neon tetras? i saw some bumblebee catfish at the LFS, maybe those will work? even though from what i've read, catfish are dangerous because they can and will eat anything that fits into their mouths. something besides coolie loaches?? can anything survive two pea puffers?!
>>2625155i uploaded a webm of the puffers that is too big for this site: https://webmshare.com/XQMW7 excuse the horizontal picture, iphone -> computer always does that with no easy way of flipping the vid.do you think these puffers could grow into a mating pair? the bigger one sort of chases the smaller in short bursts, and the smaller one sort of follows it around from a distance, and smaller defers to the bigger when feeding. then they kind of hang out like they're doing in the vid. (i threw away that rotting, moldy wood in the vid)
>>2625155>>2625166First, pea puffers are kept best in a 1 male 2 female combination at least, second, your tank is totally overstocked for its size, third, they prefer lots of hiding spaces i.e. a densely planted tank so your pea puffers are agitated for multiple reasons, that's why they attack the other fish (not that they certainly wouldn't do it if all their needs were met, they just have more reason in current conditions).You're basically doing everything wrong. Even if you were to improve conditions in your tank to fulfill all their needs, they are best kept alone in a 12g tank. They just aren't community fish, and 12g is not a community sized tank.
>>2625166>no easy way to flip the vidffmpeg, learn to use it
the price was 300 last night
>>2625171i didn't know what type of hiding they would do, i created a lot of rock tunnels, but they're not really bottom swimmers from what i've observed. it's been a few weeks, and i'm realizing not adding a lot more tall plants was a mistake. my main priority is to buy a lot more plants, take out the white clouds, and see how their behavior changes, i guess, and go back to the LFS for another puffer to balance the sexual energy out. they're all from the same batch, so i should just get one that looks like one of them, right? they're still very young to sex, but the larger, less vibrant one i would assume is a female, but i'm not ready to make a purchase until i know for sure, and the LFS can only be trusted up to a point.
>>2625209Those are definitely steps in the right direction. The larger, less vibrant one would be the female indeed. I've looked around and some people say they leave otos be, so if you really want more than just the puffers there's an idea, they are also great for keeping your tank clean of algae.I'd trust my LFS with my life, they have customers from south africa and the faroe islands, I just wish we wouldn't have retarded laws like "it's illegal to ship live animals to end customers" so I wouldn't have to go every time I need something as minor as four sakura red shrimp.
>>2625106What are you trying to feed the wafer to?
>>2625106how long did it take for that carpet?
My previously-dead anubias after 10 months of growthIt was dormant for several months before the first leaf popped up again, I just kept it around because I liked the rock. Didn't expect it to come back to life
Is a 37 a good size for a betta sorority or other than that for a very young bichir? It is basically a 29 but taller.
>>2625286Betta sororities seem hit or miss no matter the size. Be sure to put tons of plants to hide line of sight. And try to put all the bettas in there as small babies at the same time.
>>2625288Alright. Gonna take a bit to save up like $100 or more (enough time for tank to cycle) so I can go wipe out the local Petcos for baby betta females. Getting the tank for $25 so I am happy.
>>2624826don't nautilus when removed since they live in deep water?
>>2625294Sounds fun. Take pics of the gals.
>>2625301They rise many miles at night to feed then go back down to the depths. Some people have claimed they knew rich people with nautiluses in their home aquarium but the requirements to keep them are insane:>thousands of gallons>pressurized tank>chiller>needs to be dark all the time>can't have anything in with it, will eat all fish>don't do anything but get pushed around by the current>living with the knowledge that you probably shouldn't have this rare, delicate, endangered and ancient species as a """pet"""What's the point?
>>2625306the wow factor i guess? isn't that true of all exotic pets?
>>2625307>I would advise agist keeping as we had a professor that maintained a tank of them when I was in grad school and after the first hour of "WOW, these are neat!!!" they were quite boring to watch them float around the tank being moved by the currents of the filtration system.seems pointless.
>>2625301no. many aquariums keep them and they have been bred in captivity too
heres some pics of a few baby salmon from a hatchery i work at sometimes
>>2625106What's that in the back, bacopa?
>>2624856Solid Gold Aquatics
Going to that meeting... Ill try to snap some pics if I see any Portland freaks.
>>2625413Put a bird on it
can i feed cory catfish some of the peeled green peas I feed my goldfish? They're pretty mushy I think
/sp/ here. Just bought a 20 gallon top fin starter kit at pet smart. Any tips?
>>2625506buy another heater
>>2625508It came with a 100 watt heater. That's not enough?Also, 20 gallons is too small for bala sharks right?
>>2625509Yeah boy too small. Topfin is pretty shit and you dont want to cheap out on a heater that can explode
does anyone have experience with silicone? I just made a new rock structure for my crabs and siliconed it in my tank. The bottle says it can be submerged in water in 4 hours but im only worried about the silicone being toxic to my crabs. I need to get them in soon because i have like 12 of them in a small 10 gal tank so i was hoping to get them in by tonight. Its been sitting for about 5 hours
>>2625514Now you're giving me anxiety and I haven't even set it up
>>2625506>>2625509look into nano fish. a 20 gallon is awesome for them. you may be tempted to fill your tank with larger species but tanks tend to look nicer when they aren't crowded. you can get away with overstocking nanofish too since their bioload is so small, especially with live plants. because of their size, it's also easier to create schools that will actually swim together.source: have a great 10 gallon nano and want a 20 eventually
>>2625519just buy an aqueon preset heater. i've had a few for like 5 years.
>>2625521Cool I'll look into those. I was going to get tetras because they look so cool and are small. >>2625522 What wattage?
has this ever happened to any of you?>buy betta, pic related>hes beautiful>love the coloration>love the yellow fins lined with black>love the iridescent scales>perfect>he is mine>buy 90 dollar 5.5 gallon tank set up for him>set him up at home, he couldnt be happier>show him to gf>shes unimpressed>show him to dad>unimpressed>grandma>unimpressed>buy replies pic related >they all love him and think hes the most beautiful fish theyve ever seenwhy must they hurt me this way?
>>2625526pic related, second betta i bought that everyone loved
>>2625524100 should be fine for a 20
>>2625524i would suggest against neon tetras as they are inbred and weak. get cardinal tetras which look the same except a bit more red if you want them
>>2624863She had cancer
>>2625526>>2625527I'm sorry that you're born into a family of plebs. The first fish is gorgeous AF, the second is meh.
>>2625540Where did you buy the silicone? It needs 24 hours before immersing it into water btw.
>>2625542thank you, can you help me identify him? i know hes a double tail but maybe theres some dragonscale? also what would that color pattern be? im kinda new to identifying bettas
>>2625536Red is my favorite color so that would be better. Thanks. How many do you think I should get?
>>2625547Never had bettas, never found one that I liked. Pretty much until now. Also I like to "overstock" slightly, and bettas aren't social enough for that, so there's that.(AqAdvisor pretty much says I'm at 82% capacity, but my 14 gal is so full of shrimp and fish that you couldn't put a fishnet inside with a random scooping motion and not get at least three of them.)
>>2625545the brand is called DAP and it says it needs atleast 4 hours before submersing in water. Its been longer than 4 hours by now and its definately solidified quite a bit but it still smells which is why im hesitant to put them in tonight.
>>2625567>DAPIs it marketed specifically as an aquarium sealant, or is it for "doors and windows" and shit?
>>2625567you have to use either a 100% silicone without fungicide or an RTV sealant formulated for aquarium use.Check the product, if it doesn't say 100% silicone without fungicide it's going to be toxic.
>>2625572it says its for bath tubs and kitchen appliances. I sifted through tons of other forums and everyone said DAP is aquarium safe and lots of people said theyve had success with it. My only concern is that is says mildew and mold resistant and i read that silicons with mold resistant additives are toxic so im not sure if they are additives in it or not?
>>2625574please tell me i didnt just ruin my tank dude
>>2625413Update: no freaks
>>2625579You'd have been better off just using superglue, it's what people use to stick moss to surfaces in aquascaping. If your silicone has fungicide, it is toxic.
>>2625594is it possible the product says that its mildew resistant but doesnt contain fungicide? I cant find anywhere on the bottle that says it contains fungicide. Im so shitty I usually get the GE 100% silicone but the one time they were out i managed to get one that is toxic. I managed to get a brand that is aquarium safe but got the wrong kind of that brand
>>2625597I'd start scraping it off my tank with a razorblade promptly.
>>2625599ughhh fuck me. Okay thanks for the help dude i appreciate it
>>2625600It was two dudes, but you're welcome. Next time buy your adhesives at your LFS.
>>2625601fuck that, aquarium branded shit is always triple the price
20 gallon noob here. Do you guys use surge protectors or just regular power strips?
>>2625605my 20 gallon doesn't even have a power strip. Just one of those triple outlet extendo cords. Lights, heater, filter.
>>2625605I use gfci strips and digital timer strips
What would cause a gold WCMM's scales to turn white?
>>262555120 would be more than fine in a 20 gallon. the more there are the less shy they become. but i would recommend starting with 10 if you're going to do a fish in cycle.
>>2625580Their shitty sign for the meeting.
>>2625604that's because it's niche and 100% safe. rather not cheap it out and ruin a tank.
>>2625625I ended up joining and I bought this hat, even though I don't really wear hats. Learned a lot about apistos and scored a 20 gallon tank in the auction.
>>2625604yeah, just go with GE or DAP product that you KNOW is safe and it should be just fine.aquarium sealant is the same thing for 6X more
>>2625605Regular power strip with two digital timer outlets. Although if I had expensive tech I'd surely use a surge protector.>>2625617Lucky you. I have an additional two aerators, an electronic solenoid valve and an auto feeder and a temperature sensor on batteries. A small tank is no excuse for low tech.
>>2625628Everything for aquariums is the same thing for 6x more. Even if you were to buy an "expensive" surgical scissor of the same shape and size than a scissor for aquascaping, you'd end up paying one fourth of the price.
He said no pictures, but I did it anyway.
>>2625671Aw. Reminds me of my first one. Lived for 4 or 5 years. RIP buddy, he never stopped trying to wiggle dance at me even when he was too weak to swim upward.Here's pics of him throughout his life from a sad unwanted Petco betta to a glorious boy.
>>2625677He was beautiful anon
Anyone know of a decent wire shelf that can hold ~400lbs per shelf?
Can I take aquatic plants from a local river and grow them in an aquarium?And if I can, how would I go about disenfecting them of parasites and other stuff to make them safe for my fish?
>>2625704Yes, you can. You can use peroxide or preferably something like potassium permanganate.
>>2625704First and foremost if you are serious about fishkeeping you should already have a quarantine tank. This could be something as simple as a 3 gallon plastic box like pic related with just some cheap filter inside and sand.Then as Anon said before me, dilute some hydrogen peroxide to treat the plant surface, then put it in the quarantine tank where you make the same conditions as your main tank and observe for 2-3 weeks if the plant can even tolerate it. It's also plenty of time for unwelcome guests to show themselves that happened to survive the peroxide.
>>2625683Yeah. I ended up dosing him with clove oil as he had terrible dropsy in his last days. I tried adding salt and it decreased slightly but he mostly just sat on the bottom of the tank constantly. It was sad to see him in that state and I figured it must be painful. I buried him outside, hopefully he became nutrients for something else.
>>2625716quarantine tanks are a meme. i have never used them in my years of fishkeeping. if a fish is stressed, it's only going to become more stressed when put in an empty, uncycled "quarantine tank" for days. if it's got any sickness it'll get worse, and if it's susceptible it will get the sickness from stress.any diseased fish you put in your main tank can be treated, usually quite easily, and keeping stress down in an established tank with plenty of hiding spots will help healing immensely.
>>2625702So this is the first one that I came across that would hold that much weight. Do you guys think this would look like shit with fish tanks on it? 1 37-gallon and at least 1 20-gallon, possibly more or a different combination but a 37 for sure.
>>2625723>uncycledWho said anything about uncycled? Didn't I say you are supposed to have the same conditions in the quarantine tank as the main one? I have five stems of anubias in mine which is more than enough to keep it cycled.
>>2625726>I have five stems of anubias in mine which is more than enough to keep it cycled.>has no clue what cycled means
>>2625726>I have five stems of anubias in mine which is more than enough to keep it cycled
>>2625726>"quaratine tank" >in order to lower fish stress it'd have to be literally just another established fishtankwhat's the point?also, yeah, like >>2625737 said you don't know what cycled means apparently.
>>2625737>>2625743>>2625751If you think you need fish crap in a 3 gallon tank to be able to feed bacteria with nitrites and ammonia, you don't know shit about fish tanks. I've had chili rasbora in there for two months and not once have I seen nitrite levels above 0.25 and ammonia above 0 during my daily water tests, and the nitrites were above 0 for a single day.
>>2625752i hope you know you got memed on and are spending unnecessary money on a "quarantine tank" which does little to nothing to preventing disease spread
>>2625752>If you think you need fish crap in a 3 gallon tank to be able to feed bacteria with nitrites and ammonia, you don't know shit about fish tankswatits probably just not cycling at all due to the plants/fish waste ratio. a full cycle takes around 6 months
>>2625752you mentioned nitrite levels twice so i think you might not actually know shit about fish tanks
>>2625755Sure saved my $16 a pop shrimp from planaria.>>2625758I'm not the one too stupid to know the first thing about aquatic plants, like the fact that decaying leaves produce ammonia.
>>2625759planaria doesn't kill anything. it's not a disease or parasite. to get rid of it you feed less. what are you talking about
>>2625763>implying neocaridina would eat planaria>implying planaria are harmless to shrimpThanks for proving my point.
Update (im >>2625575)so I removed my rock structure, scraped all of the toxic silicone off my glass, but im wondering if even a marginal amount of residue from the silicone will still be concerning? Obviously I did my best cleaning it off with a razor and sponge. I put it back in with silicone that is safe so if I just soak the tank in water once the silicone cures then do a water change is there no cause for concern?
>>2625767they don't have to eat planaria. planaria is a flatworm that dies with no detritus of excess food in the substrate to eat. they are harmless. not sure if you're trolling right now.
>>2625780A lot of shrimp groups on FB think that planaria are harmful to shrimp, specifically shrimplets.
>>2625783the keyword there is "think". planaria may stress them and compete for food. but planaria are not a disease that can be cured by a qt tank, they only go away with less food. you cause them to breed by overfeeding.
>>2625780But I'm now completely sure that you are.>>2625772If you were thorough I wouldn't worry. There are always minute traces of harmful things in the water, liquid fertilizers for example contain copper that is a big no-no for shrimp, but is in such small amounts that no harm comes to them.>>2625783And breeders too.
>>2625784I never thought they were a problem. I saw some once in my aquarium by accident but I'm pretty sure my fish ate them, because I never saw them again. This was over a year ago.
>>2624826Just filled it with water, I'll wait 15 days for everything to settle down and add fishes :)
What is the best type of substrate for Apistogrammas or Pelvicachromis?
>>2625716The only thing I think I can't replicate is warmer water.These plants were onthe surface of the lake, which I'm sure is warmer than the deeper parts, but I don't know about 78* warmer.Should I go for it anyway and then later see if they'll grow in warmer water?
>>2625785>thinks planaria can be "cured" by a qt tank and that they can't happen in healthy tanks just from overfeedingyep, you definitely are trolling>>2625794im addressing the guy who thinks planaria is a disease.
>>2625806>im addressing the guy who thinks planaria is a disease.I know, but you replied to me...
>>262579620 gallon noob here. Is that generally how long you're supposed to wait to add fish?
>>2625810sorry thought you were him. not sure what he's getting at either since google clearly explains what planaria is
>>2625812No, you should wait a month or two depending on which method of cycling you're using. My filter has already passed a cycling process so I'm just waiting for the substrate to settle down since it's new.
>>2625801Heat would be one of the most important things to replicate, if it melts it shouldn't melt inside your main aquarium. I have a 10W heater in my quarantine tank.>>2625806I'm not curing the planaria you imbecile, I'm killing the planaria and relocating the shrimp to the quarantine tank while I do it. Also planaria don't just pop into existence from fucking nothing, you carry it inside your tank with storebought plants, so overfeeding has jack shit to do with anything, especially considering the fact that I had planaria in my supposedly uncycled tank thriving in algae 5 months before I put any animal in there that would need feeding. You should read more and write less in these threads because your level of knowledge about anything water related is appalling.
>>2625812it will not cycle without ammonia. you need to either put fish food in it and let it rot, or add just a few fish and wait about two weeks. opinions vary wildly on fish in cycling but i have never had an issue with it when i only add a few fish
>>2625817wow you are literally retarded and don't know how to use google. no wonder you fell for the quarantine tank meme they use to get you to buy more products.
>>2625817Damnit, alright. I should have an extra heater anyway for a quarantine tank.So these are the plants I grabbed. I think there is four, and I think one of them might be duckweed, or something similar to it. That tiny little speck of a leaf over in the bottom right. There was tons of those little leaves.Northern CA if anyone wants to help me ID them.
>>2625821Dude, I'm not evwn part of your argument, but most aerious breeders use a quarantine.Especially if you don't want your whole stock in a healthy tank (think money-per-fish here) to possibly die off because one new fish carried in some hard to get rid of disease.
>>2625825Separate the plants and post better pics.
>>2625819Does it matter what fish I use? Feeder fish?
I think one is mosquito fern.
>>2625844yes and the one on the left looks like duckweed, not sure about the other two though
>>2625844Thanks>>2625845It really seems like duckweed, considering how much of it there was.I should probably pick that stuff out then. Unless it's the hardiest, in which care I'll just deal with it.
>>2625848its pretty hardy but my snails always ate it before it could really grow
>>2625850I wanted to get a nerite, but I'm afraid it will escape my tank.
>>2625852mine will often go to the top of the aquarium near or slightly above the water line but i havent had one actually escape yet i think as long as your aquarium's rim has a lip on it for a glass lid that may stop them from outright escaping
>>2625841don't put any fish in there that you don't either want to keep or return later (and most places don't let you return feeder fish.)
>>2625841you could use snails instead of fish
>>2625867Or just a bottle of Quickstart.Or just get one fish if the kind you like and do daily water changes until it's cycled.
>>2625872neither of those ideas will work.
>>2625867You just reminded me of thishttps://youtu.be/BYqyWOT8ZI0
>>2625875Why?I've cycled tanks with the quickstart stuff.I used liquid test kits to see if it actually worked and it does.
>>2625883what exactly were the parameters you got, because nitrifying bacteria doesn't work if there's no ammonia to feed on. there needs to be either pure ammonia added, or some kind of biological waste to produce it.
>>2625890I was adding fish food every other day and it was being converted just fine.I mean, maybe I got lucky. I think a lot of it might be how it's shipped and making sure the packages aren't going through extreme temp shifts. But that's also why you should have test kits.
>>2625892>I was adding fish food every other day and it was being converted just fineit takes anything from days to weeks to convert fish food to ammonia.the reason most people don't realize their product didn't work is because cycling takes an incredibly long time. So you get perfect water tests for a week or two and assume everything is good.while in reality the cycle takes place several weeks after you stopped testing.it's not important, it just shows a certain naïve ignorance of what actually probably happened. The end result is the same either way though. Your tank cycled 6-8 weeks from when you started adding food or fish, and you didn't notice it.
>>2625521I have a school of 10 Harlequin Rasboras in my 75 gallon and they don't really school. They kinda just break up into groups of 2 or 3....Now, Rummynose Tetras, that's the real fucking deal when it comes to schooling. All 12 moving as one, back and forth. Sometimes they split up when they get tired though.I do wanna try Chili Rasboras for my 5 gallon office tank, since I heard they do well with Cherry Shrimp.
>>2625943most schooling fish have a mode where they are relaxed and feeding. I once had some wild caught red eye tetras that thought I was a predator and would school super tight every time someone walked by. Cool fish. Lost a few to jumping.
>>2625949>school super tight every time someone walked byThink my issue is that they feel too secure cause there's isn't really anything bigger than them in the tank, and I'm also careful not to startle them myself.
>>2625812It's all bullshit Do whatever you want and it will turn out fine
>>2625202That's retarded though sir. A ten gallon is $10 new at the right time of year (like 4 times a year) and all that other shit shouldnt run you more than a hundred if youre not retarded. His shit looks fake and gay and not worth $220, especially for a betta. I just got a 115g tank on craigslist last week for 100 bucks, thats a good deal. Not that shit.
>>2625526>>2625527My condolences for your abysmal family
Any blackwater fish that can also work as dithers?
>>2625916I showed this pic to the guy I got these fish from and all he could say was "that gravel is too brightly colored for them"... Yeah, no shit!
>>2626126He sent this picture in response lol. Their natural habitat in the Wouri River system in some African shithole.
>>2626121I have a few more questions about black water tanks...When you have a black water tank, if you use filter floss (polyfill), will it remove the tannins from the water? Or for that reason, are sponge filters preferable to say HOB or canister filters? Or would a HOB or canister filter work fine with just biomedia in it?Are there any plants that can grow in black water or is that pretty much out of the question because of the low light?Does any type of leaf work for the leaf litter in black water tanks, are just specifically oak leaves and alder cones?Pictured is a 12 gallon tank. The tank I am setting up is a 20 gallon long.
>>2625828introducing a fish that's sick but shows no symptoms shouldn't progress to your entire tank becoming sick unless you have a severe problem with the health of your established tank. ich is extremely easy to get rid of, which is what i've had a couple store-bought fish bring in. no need for a qt tank. if you have trouble removing a disease from your tank it indicates a problem.
>>2625943>>2625949>>2625951i have 12 ember tetras that usually only school when i do water changes. other than that they might do groups of 5 that play in the filter but they mostly just hang out
I bought some distilled water and made some 4dKh water. I used 3 drops of the pH indicator from the API freshwater master kit. It was blue when I first put it in, but it is actually green now! Pretty stoked, I did something right for once.
>>2626198But it's not treatimg it that's usually the problem, it's losing other fish to stress of the disease and/or treatment.It's also just a pain in the ass to be doaing everyday, when you can just have another tank running.
>>2626194Filter floss, sponges, and the like are fine. Adding activated carbon or resins to your filter might take tannins out of the water, but it would be more counterproductive than harmful for blackwater aquarium. Floating and emergent plants work best in blackwater tanks, low light submerged plants could probably do fine if you had a bright enough light, but blackwater environments tend to not have them. Most dried hardwood leaves would work for tannins. Catappa, magnolia, and oak are just the most commonly used.
>>2626294Great, thanks for the info. I'm going to go for a walk today and see if I can find any oak leaves or alder cones. Those both grow around here so shouldn't be too hard. That with black sand and rocks, I should be all set, I hope!
Anyone know what kind of fish this is? I was supposed to get 8 black neon tetras and I got 7 and this thing...Not sure what to do I really like the way it looks though but he’s all alone
>>2626303Looks like a female cherry barb
This lady was clearing out her entire fish room today and selling everything! I went over there to see what she had. Dozens of 10 gallon and below tanks, a few large tanks, but the biggest was like a 40 gallon breeder. Some dyke with rainbow colored hair was there. I ended up only getting a 100 watt heater, a 10 gallon glass lid, a piece of drift wood, and a 20lb bag of sand all for $12. It was in her 1 car garage on her duplex. But it stank in there. It smelt like a fish shop, but the odor was a heavier. I never want my fish room or any room to smell like that.
>>2626366>Some dyke with rainbow colored hair was thereRachel?
>>2626377lol I didn't ask her what her name was.
>>2626305I think you’re rightIt’s in a tank with a bunch of different tetras (neon, black neon, serpae) also a honey gourami and a plecco do you think it will be okay being by itself or should I remove it and get some more barbs in their own tank?
>used a python water changer for the first timeNo buckets, no spills, feels good man.Only downside is I no longer have buckets of tank water to clean sponges in.
>>2626392>Only downside is I no longer have buckets of tank water to clean sponges in.Ha ha!
>>2626392Use the old siphon/get a simple one and use the old bucket to take tank water
>>2626413Yeah that's one option. I do find it cumbersome to have 2 hoses lying around, so I'll just use bags to scoop out water and squeeze the sponges out in a bucket.
>>2626294Will oak branches or alder branches be OK in an aquarium?
Hey so I've been siphoning out any debri and doing about 20% water changes every day to cycle a small tank-fish in.I'm wondering if it's better to do a larger water change, or smaller ones when you are cycling fish in? especially ona small tank? (2.5)I have some smooth rocks and I want to change his tank around, and I was going to change all the water out. Would it be better to leave a bit in there though, for the cycle?
>>2626502>siphoning out any debri and doing about 20% water changes every dayim not really sure that is helping. If it were me I would fill it, let it sit for a month while running the filter with old filter media from a different tank and just top it off as needed during that time
>>2626505But I have a betta in there and no way to get media really.I have that safestart stuff, but I don't want to rely on it.
Does this shelf look like it will support the 20 gallon long tank with no problems? I'm not worried about the 10 because it fits across both supports, but the 20 doesn't. I'm pretty sure the frame will because it was designed for 12 10s but I'm wondering about the plywood part.
>>2624868>>2624905Her daughters are cute though. Met them (and Rachel of course) at a convention beginning of the month. Technically it was the second time as she was there last year too.>>2625284Yeah, I've experienced the same. Truly a noob friendly plant (which is great for me; been pretty successful with fish, mediocre with plants).
>>2625580You lucked out. The most popular clubs around here are cichlid associations, and they are FULL of weirdos.
>>2626392just wash them in tap waterpeople really overstate the antibacterial power of tap water against nitrifying bacteria. At least with my tap water it works fine, the city only uses chloramines here and they are less powerful than raw chlorine.
>>2626541There was two girls that I assumed were lesbians. They looked fairly normal though, minus some tattoos. Luckily, my girl was with me so I didn't feel too weird. I'm not sure that these people even like cichlids, there were at least 10 young kribs that didn't sell.
>>2626528The plywood is 1/2 inch if that matters.
>>2626528easily.there's no fucking way a static 200lb object is going to shear off 1/2" ply. you could probably part a 200g tank on that without a problem.just don't let the ply get soaked, it loses a lot of strength when it's wet.
>>2625725I use something like that, however be aware that the weight rating is for evenly distributed loads, and the boards that it comes with it is very thin. I use a heavier duty one that is 4' x 2' and is rated for I think 1000 lbs per shelf or maybe even more, and the shelves still sagged (which is not great long term for certain kinds/shapes of tank, however a 20G would be totally fine). I ended up buying some 1" plywood board to go underneath with a waterproof mat on top, which is way overkill but it doesn't sag at all now.This is not a problem if your tanks fit perfectly on the ledges that hold the board though. I think there's a very popular one that youtubers use (including Solid Gold) that perfectly fit a 40G breeder. I'm not at all a fan of 37G tanks, btw. They offer little benefit over a 20G long for most fish.
>>2626545>>2626546I guess I should change my answer since there is one potential problem- bending.that ply isn't going to break, but if it bends enough the tank could break. So I dunno, it's up to you. I would probably fill the tank on the ply and then measure deflection. If it has measurable bend at all I'd support it under the tank.
>>2626546Well I calculated more than that, 225 for the empty tank, 40 for sand and at least 40 for rocks. So say 300lbs or around there. But that puts my mind at ease. I'm going to have to figure out a creative way to fill it though.>>2626547Well the shelf I bought from a guy I know and I added the 1/2" plywood myself. I could always add a support piece under the shelf if that would help, another piece of 2x4 from the front to back. It was a rack before I put the plywood on it.>>2626549OK I will do that. How to measure the bend though?
>>2626380Did she look like this?
>>2626547Oops you were referring to the other shelf I was talking about yesterday. I did buy that tank today actually. And I saw the metal shelf that they use that fits the 40 breeders. This 37 is going to be a betta sorority I think. It's empty right now on top of a pine dresser. Originally I was looking for a 27 but I found this one for $25 so I got it instead.
>>2626553>I calculated more than that, 225 for the empty tank, 40 for sand and at least 40 for rockslolit doesn't work like that but ok.>How to measure the bend though?set empty tank, check for gap between bottom and shelf along each side. Eyeball for gap or slide paper between tank and shelf.fill tank, check again for gap between bottom of tank and shelf. Again use eyeballs and try to fit paper between tank and shelf. what you want is no gap between the tank and the shelf before or after filling the tank.
>>2626557No she looked like a retarded Portlander with Rainbow Dash type hair. I should have sneaked a pic of her but I don't have service on my phone so I don't bring it with me usually.
>>2626560>it doesn't work like that but ok.Explain please.
Considering a dojo loach for my goldfish tank, but do they require sand? It's a barebottom tank since goldfish are mass shitters.
>>2626567>dojo loach living its life literally swimming in goldfish shit and nothing elseMan bottom feeders have such a shit life.
>>2626564This is what I was basing my estimate off of.
>>2626553Honestly we're really overkilling shit here.With the size of tanks you're getting it's really not a big deal.Now if you had a glass tank that was 4' long or a long-ish acrylic tank... yeah, I'd worry about bending. But a 20G long? You could support it just on the ends and it'll be fine. Many people do (see cinderblock stands).If you want to be super paranoid you could just buy a 2"x4"x10' beam and make planks to lay across instead of a single plywood board. It'll support literally thousands of pounds and costs way cheaper than thick plywood.
>>2626575>support literally thousands of poundsHey! Now we're talking! I'm working a design for a 75 gallon stand and that would probably help out a lot.
>>2626564water weighs a bit over 8lb/g, we use a number of about 10lb/g to include the weight of glass, rock and sand.even that's an overestimation. Because when you add rock or sand to the tank it displaces water. So you add the weight of the rock and then subtract the weight of an equal volume of water. Or just use an average that includes a mix of water, rock, and sand and works out to less than 10lb/g
My goldfish are spawning probably, the male has breeding spots. If im not planning to raise fry, should I separate them? I wonder if the female is being worn out by all the chasing. She has a double tail so is nowhere near fast enough to get away from the other one consistently
>>2626580Dumb ass me forgot about water displacement.10lbs/gallon makes a lot of sense.
>>262658510lb/g is taken from reef tanks, which have heavier water and way more rock.so 10lb/g is a huge overestimation for fw, but it's best to overestimate and be safe.
>>2626587Good points.I'm about to take the two empty tanks off and see if my fat ass will make the plywood sag at all. Hopefullly it doesn't! I just want this tank to be set up and get my fish in it. I'm kind of bummed because I thought my old shop lights would fit under the top shelf but they are about 4 inches too long, so I have to figure something else out for lighting. Right now the tank the fish are in has a LED bulb in one of those plug-in sockets, so I'll probably just move that over for them.
>>2624839yes I am actually it works really well just make sure you buy that DIY kit offline to make your life WAY easier and use the little magnet thing to raise the intake above the citric acid+water mix when the reaction starts speeding up or else you'll burn through it in a week and your pressure will skyrocket dangerously
P...p...please say something nice about my new (((BLACKED)))water aquarium
>>2626621I love this style of tank. I bet glass catfish would look amazing in the spooky atmosphere.
>>2626621What are you going to stock it with? That’s a damn nice piece of wood thereThis is my betta I really want to move into my 5.5 that only has two snails in it. Definitely going to do some rescaping.
>>2624826>"let me in, I'm a fairy"
I'm soaking some river plants in a peroxide solution, and HOLY SHITSO many little worms are just writhing in the water dieing. Like hundreds.I'm afraid to put that shit in my tank now, even if I give the plants a good rinse after. I don't want my fish eating any peroxide filled dead carcass.
>>2626633Don't keep them in there too long or you will kill the plants.
>>2626623I have 10 cardinal tetras and plan to add maybe 10 more and a pair of apistos. Maybe an oddball plecos or two once it settles in. It’s only a few days old. >>2626626It’s a few pieces of wood pointed together. It was a hitch to aquascape
>>2626638I did 12 minutes.If they make it through that and a lot warmer water than they are used to, I'll be amazed.
I just picked up a small bunch of S. repens. How should I got about planting it? Separate or grouped? Does this plant carpet?
>>2626666i've been trying to get it to carpet in a 10 gallon for a few months now and its really damn hard, remember to snip the tops and replant
What kind of snail is this?
And also what kind of snail is this
>>2626670horned nerite maybe?
>2626670That is a horned nerite snail.
>>2626672white mystery snail perhaps?
>>2626676The body isn't white at all though, just the shell.
Any tips on caring for jungle val and anubias? I have a jungle val that will come in the mail soon so I need help. I have low light, flourish fertilizer, and a sand substrate. The tank is 20 gallons, with relatively hard water and a temperature of 82 degrees.
>>2626679Two of the hardiest, easiest plants to grow. Even I have had success with them. Don't worry about it. It'll be fine.>82 degreesWhat kind of fish are you keeping? Discus?
>>2626678get a pic of the shell
>>2626669Just poke them back into the substrate? I'm using sand if that matters.
>2626679I have angelfish, nerite snails, and a mystery snail.
>>2626690sir do you even know how to post?
Now that I think about it, I could lower the temp to 78 or 80.
>>2626691Just a mistake I overlooked.
>>2625257peppered cories and my fat fucking black mollies>>2625360>>2625264wish i can answer lads all i do is take cool aquariums from the internet and post it here
Also I bought some “lobelia cardinalis” but it turned out to be dwarf baby tears so now I’m stuck with those.
>>2626693eh? you just click the post numbers to reply
>>2626695What type of sand is that?
>>2626687Here is my grow tank, 10 gallons. Had a bunch of ghost shrimp in there but they all bit the dust besides 1. Made a DIY CO2 rig from sugar and yeast that still, 3 months later, is giving off gas.Got fucked with diatomes, just beginning to clear up now.
>>2626684Here ya go
>>2626702Nice, I kind of have an idea of what to expect with mine now. What kind of light are you using?
I don't know how long it will last before the plants start melting, (and yea, probably taking a risk for snails), but I'm loving how this looks.
>>262670550 watt GE “plant light” bulb
>>2626708Not too shabby!
>>2626703where did you get the snail from?
>>2626711dafuq kind of filter is that?
>>2626710Definitely get some CO2 injection going for S repens to even attempt horizontal growth otherwise your best bet for growth is clipping and replanting. Even with c02 I hear it takes months for it to begin carpeting. This is 3 months in from two bags I got at the local pet store and I’ve clipped and replanted about 3 times now and I’m due for another
>>2626720Also some of these larger clumps with exposed rhizomes I’m probably going to have to break apart and spread out iirc
>>2626713I DIY'd it.Got a tiny pump and aimed it to pull water up through the media and sponge that's hidden in that cup. Then I used a little tubing to point the flow away so the circulation is good.So far it's working pretty well.
I have a spare 6.7 semi-hex up and running that I used as a holding tank, but now there are only a few small snails in there as I’ve moved all the other fishWhat should I stock it with?
>>2626712Local fish store, the guy didn't know what kind it was. I quite like the place though, lots of cool reef stuff for if I'm ever suddenly wealthy.
>>2626720>>2626722I recently set up CO2 so that is actually why I bought the S. repens. I hadn't seen any at my local Petsmart before but when I saw it, I knew I had to get it. Especially at 50% off.
>>2626729>the guy didn't know what kind it wasdefinitely a mystery snail then ;)
>>2626736You know, I made the same exact joke to him.
>>2626741loldid he laugh though?
>>2626728Chili rasboraStone catfishPygmy coriesAfricam dwarf frogShrimpBettaA single cray fish maybe
>>2626743Not really. :(
>>2626744>Chili rasborathank you for the suggestions, i already have a betta but I like the frog idea
>>2626672japanese trapdoor snail
>>2626720you need a better light
>>2626758yeah i figured I might but i have a 5 watt per gallon "plant light" right nowmaybe its the glass lid? Idk what to do
>>2626764I cant imagine what your PAR is. How far is the light from the tank?
>>2626764https://www.amazon.com/GE-Lighting-14888-Plant-50-Watt/dp/B000HKKY6Iis this what you have?
>>2626766older image showing how far away it is>>2626770yes
>>2626772this is what it looked like to startthe whole thing was just a big experiment anyway since i had the extra equipment
might remove the airstone and replace the CO2 with a fresh mix and start dosing excel
>>2626772>yeswell I found your problem then, my friendYour light isnt a grow light>This bulb does not promote plant growth. It's intent is to make plants look brighter and healthierBy GE Lighting MANUFACTURER on May 18, 2017
>>2626778fuuuuck what should I do
>>2626779get this http://a.co/d5COk2o I have the larger version and they work miracles. Also start dosing ferts
>>2626783oh wiat, that's the reef version. There should be a freshwater one somewhere...
>>2626785thanks friend, i could tell they were growing too tall and getting a bit pale.
>>2626789yeah the PAR is crazy on these lights. On second look, the freshwater version on has 6 LEDs. I'd get the one I linked above and just get a dimmer if you need it. You probably willGood luck. Growing a carpet always seems to be a trial
>>2626776Why are you pumping air if you have no fish and are running CO2?
>>2626808was for the shrimp but they all died except 1 so i might just fish him out and move him to another tank
>>2626728Rescue a poor sad betta and let it live happily.
>>2626827I can't keep ghost shrimp alive either.
If i add like 3 more drops of pH indicator to my drop checker, will that change the reading or just make the color more saturated?
>>2626541>The most popular clubs around here are cichlid associationsEveryone I've ever known irl who was into non-angelfish cichlids were terrible people. I like guppies and loaches like a manchild, though, so I'm probably not one to judge.
I ordered a set of glass hoods for my 55g tank and according to Amazon and the USPS site they were delivered today, but they were not. Had them delivered to my parents' house because they're always home, and something came for my sister, but nothing for me. I'm going to have to call the post office and Amazon tomorrow and find out what the fuck is up, ugh I hate talking on the phone. I really fucking hope that the tracker is wrong and the post office still has them and just hasn't delivered them yet, I'd hate for them to be delivered to some other address, how would I even get them back? I've been so worried they'd arrive broken, and now I'm doubly worried about that and them being lost. This is very stressful, FUCK!
>>2626912as someone who has one of these as the most popular fish club in my area, its totally true. It's a giant dick measuring contest with how many gallons you have and how big your fish is. But angelfish are actually total dickheads too and just as willing to murder your whole community tank as a jack dempsey.
>>2626924I had an angelfish kill a snail once, but that was the only trouble I've had with them.
>>2626916Ask your neighbors? My stuff gets delivered across the street from me literally every time there’s a different/new driver.
How many pea puffers can i get in 16 gallon?
>>2627009You can do Two females but you can do Three if it's heavily planted
what can i add to a 10g tank that won't disturb the betta? i have a filter and heater but no oxygen. I was thinking of shrimp to help out with the cleaning. I was also thinking of dividing the tank so i could add my female betta, but im not sure if thats gonna work out. Also, why the fuck do frogbits melt? i bought a bunch of them and nearly all of them fucking died, as opposed to the hornwort I have which is doing just fine.
>>2627100Beautiful fish.Just google betta community tank mates.Mostly your looking for small, non colorful, peaceful fish that are not fin nippers.Any of the pygmy cories work nicely with a well establisjed tank, as well as some rasboras and neon tetras. And snails.Try and get fish that have similar diets, or feeding will be a pain.
>>2626916You dun goofed.Should have ordered 2x24" from Drs Foster and Smith.Did the tracking number start with a "T"?
can someone please give me a heater on Amazon that isn't a fucking pipe bomb but won't cost me more than a cooler full of organs thanks
>>2627231What size of tank?
>>2627232ten whole American Gallons™
>>2627233This is what I would recommend. Fully submersible and adjustable as well as durable. I have the bigger versions in all of my tanks.http://a.co/cxbtf14
>>2627236Thank you my dude, please accept this pup as payment
>>2627245Umm... thanks.I hope you have a thermometer to monitor the temperature. Also make sure to put the new heater in and let it sit for at least 30 minutes before you plug it in, but you probably already knew this.
I had a short dream last night that I woke up laughing from. In my dream, I decided that I was going to convert all of my lift regular lift-open Versa-tops to sliding tops instead. My girlfriend asked me why, and I said "Aren't you tired of lifting them to open them all the time?"And then I woke up laughing.
what are the differences between submersible aquarium lights and ones that you don't submerge besides the obvious?
new thread needed!
>>2627394I think the main difference is that the submersible lights are more for accent lighting, but I could be wrong.
So while redoing my diy co2 juice, I accidentally stirred it with a wooden spoon that had just been used to stir my* new kombucha brew. There was a bit of kombucha yeast on the spoon when I looked at it after. Should I be worried? Am I now making kombucha above my aquarium instead of kilju?
Went out looking for a good LED bar at some local fish stores, shit was crazy expensive so I got the brightest LED bulb I could find for the time being until I order a nice bar offline. The difference is extremely noticeable for me at double the wattage, but still not sure what the PAR would be.100 watt LED1650 lumens5000k
>>2627572>5000kyou want 6500k for proper growth. Lumen honestly doesnt mean much anymore. Also you'll want at least two more lamps hanging over the tank for even distribution. Maybe cover the sides and back of your aquarium with foil. You'll need all the help you can get using bulbs like thatAlso yeah dont go out to stores to pick up a light, they're always overpriced. Look online (Amazon/Ebay) and find yourself an LED bar made specifically for aquarium plants and make SURE that they're 3 watt LEDs. The one I linked you yesterday is pretty cheap for the power you get. Dont go less than 1 Watt if you absolutely are set on saving money
>>2627585What’s weird is I have another tank with some S repens I salvaged from a distaster of a project that had to completely break down, put them in a hospital tank I have with a regular CFL light and no CO2 and no ferts and they look bigger greener and more healthy than this tank pictured. They were from someone I bought online so idk it’s just strange Also fuck diatomes
>>2627599CFLs are alittle better than the light you just bought. They arent great but they put off more/better light. Bulbs cast light in all directions though. Generally, you want your light aimed downward onlyChinese algae eaters are good for diatoms. Just know once your diatoms are gone, something else will just move in and take its place. Green spot is much worse and usually follows diatoms
>>2627601Well shit glad it was only $4.50
I need some advice with my CO2 setup.So every night I turn it off. When I turn it off, the lights go down to low and eventually switch off. When I turn the CO2 off, I turn the air pumps back on.The following morning, I turn the CO2 on at the tank and turn the air pumps down. Every single day, I have to adjust the pressure at the regulator because so much gas is coming out. Over the course of several hours, I have to manually adjust the pressure at the regulator up until it doesn't need to be fucked with anymore. This happens until the night when I turn it off at the tank and the whole situation happens again the following morning.What am I doing wrong? The CO2 tank is on the floor below the aquarium. Do I need to bring the tank above the aquarium or something..? It doesn't make sense to me that I have to fuck with the regulator so much. I have my needle valve on there too and use it a little bit, but maybe I didn't set that up the proper way.
>>2627657can you let your co2 just diffuse into the air at night? Let the co2 flow uncapped at night and cap it again an hour before you turn on your tank lights so its all even
>>2627660Let it flow uncapped? Do you mean take the end of the CO2 line out of the aquarium at night and just let it go into the air? The reason I turn it off at the tank every night is to save CO2 over time, so I'm not sure that this would help. I'm not sure what you mean by "uncapped at night" and "cap it again".
>>2627664>>2627664yeah I mean just let it diffuse into the air. If you're trying to save co2 then that's not an option
>>2627678What I just did was open the needle valve all the way and then increased the pressure on the regulator, and then I dialed the needle valve down to a good level. I will see if this works or not, the pressure at the regulator is much higher than it previously was.
>>2627524If it is a different yeast, they will probably compete so it is hard to say what you will end up with, kilju or kombucha.
>5 Gallon Marineland Portait>Single Male BettaI currently have the little fella in a less than gallon tank. He has a heater, but other than that nothing. I realized quickly I made a mistake and he needed a bigger tank. I got the Portrait with the intention of planting it. I am going with the basic kit the tank comes with. I am looking for easy plants that won't irritate my betta's fins or scales. Advice welcome.
>>2627713Any sort of real plant should be fine for him. Easy ones for low light include: Java fern, anubias, Marimo moss balls, or moneywort. I'm sure there are others. You might be able to do an Amazon sword. Get him a snail friend like a nerite. Bettas are pretty easy to care for, just make sure you don't overfeed him and also make sure to do the water changes.
>>2627720Okay. Question about snail friends. I know he is very territorial, not just as a betta, just him personally. He does displays at me whenever I even look in his direction. I am concerned about the tank only being 5 gallons about the snail getting chomped on. I might be wrong here, but wouldn't he just eat them like he would cherry shrimp?
>>2627729my guppies bullied, tried to eat my snails so I mean it could be worse
>>2627734So how many should I get for a 5 gallon with some plants and no CO2? 2?
>>2627737could probably have a snail per gallon+ as long as you feed them properly
>>2627729Nerites have an operculum so it is doubtful he would ever kill one. He might flare at it a couple times but I don't think he would actually attack them. Livebearers tend to "pick at" most types of snails.