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AK Edition

Old thread: >>3217119

Keep strictly real-steel related topics in >>>/k/, gun and gear porn's cool as long as you don't spam.

If you claim to own something provide evidence for it.

>Newbie pastebin
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OG Discord Server
http://discord.me/asg

Germanbro's Server
http://discord.me/airsoftgeneral

Thread Topic:

Do you prefer plastic, aluminum or steel externals?
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>>3239934
Externals to match what the real steel is. Why would you want a plastic AK over wood and steel?
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>>3239934
Where do you get those 5.54x39 steel mags?
They look fancy AF,
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I ran with steel mags for 5 years but lately all the weight of my gear put a strain on my fun so I trimmed it down to a belt, sold the steel mags for the same as I bought them and got some alright plastics from china.
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>>3240742
Most mags are stamped metal. How heavy were your mags that plastic is lighter?
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>>3240901
From 190g per mag to 120g. Albeit the biggest factor was going from 9x 68rd mags to 5x150rd mags.
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>>3237784
It's an airsoft shotgun that I've made. I've still got a bunch of them left that I'd like to sell, so I've been shitposting around the internet about it.
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>>3241167
AR?
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>>3240439
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072BJ3XRF/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Not cheap but they're nice, I have 6 myself.
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>>3242312
Would they work in non-Cymas? I have an E&L that would love to get the Polish Tantal treatment.
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>>3242392
I use them in my E&L and they feed well.
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>>3241600

how exactly do they work
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whats your guys' opinion on evike's mystery box promotion?
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>>3242723
You'll at least get your money's worth most of the time, but it's a big toss up and there's a slim chance that you'll get the grand prize.
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>>3242741

its weird that they put two really expensive guns together in one prize box, like the two vectors and the two falkor rifles
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>>3242055
Hk 416.
I thought about buying a lighter gun as well since the metal rail gets heavy after 7 hours but I managed to buy an ak74 thats the exact same weight.
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Do you guys think my kit is too bright? Will the use of bright colors and lack of camoflage give me a significant disadvantage? Keep in mind I play primarily outdoors.
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>>3243259
I'd say it's alright. Now go out and show 'em, champ!
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>>3241600
>when someone doesn't prefire
gay
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>>3243401
F-fuck off cunt
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>>3242721
You load a shell and fire. It shoots around 60 bbs at a time. It's an actual airsoft shotgun compared to those trishot springer things.

>>3243407
The guy probably wasn't expecting anyone to be there.
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>>3243747

what kind of shells does it use? i would actually considering buying one i would just like some details.
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>>3243259
It's bbwars dude, most engagement distances are so close that camo doesn't matter.
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Went to my first BBWarz game yesterday. It was actually a "milsim". OP FUBAR in Ohio. Pretty cringe name but I honestly had a lot of fun.

If you're moving in a group and you take fire why does everybody plop their ass down and start trying to take pot shots? When I was in a group and we made contact I would immediately run off to the flank and work my way around and it usually worked pretty well. I died doing it sometimes but as far as I can tell it's better than waiting for something to happen.

There was a couple times where we took fire and I said "I'm going to go kill these guys" and then my team was like "yeah good luck lol" and then I actually did it.

What's the deal? I thought combat was all about fire and maneuver, even if you're in BBWarz.
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>>3244267
It uses real 12ga shells, loaded with BBs and a cotton ball as a wad. It shoots all of the loaded BBs at once and it's really loud. The videos I had didn't really do it justice since the microphone wasn't that good in the camera I used.
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>>3245123
the hell does it propel them with?
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>>3245149
HPA
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>>3245060
Because a lot of people forget it's a game and turn into huge cowards when they start taking fire. Or when they sight an enemy. Or when a light breeze rolls through the field.

Just expect that at least half of any given team will be content to spend the entire game sitting well behind the frontline taking shots at targets they aren't capable of hitting and completely ignoring the objective(s) if that keeps them from getting shot.
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>>3245220

So they are afraid to die in a game where the worst that happens is a 5 minute bleedout and walk back to spawn if no one revives you?

Tragic. I had fun sitting there waiting to bleed out watching people around me do stuff.
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>>3245220
>>3245240

And it gets worse if a single raindrop falls, or the ground is slightly damp.
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>>3245240
In milsim games it happens a lot when you have to walk a mile back to spawn
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>>3245242
>>3245247

A mile would suck, but so would being absolutely useless. Like damn.

Longest walk to spawn took me maybe 15 minutes.
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>>3245240
I don't get it either. The way I see it, if you're afraid to be shot by plastic pellets or can't jog 100 yards or more to spawn and back, then why invest in airsoft at all?

And yeah, getting to sit back and observe every now and then is nice.

>>3245242
I love it when it rains. You can easily identify the gear queers when they keep far away from the muddy areas to prevent their "authentic SOCOM issue Cryes" from getting dirty. Then there's the speedsofters who think running full force through ankle-deep mud in their sneakers is a good idea.
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>>3245374
If its actual crye it should take the punishment
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Welp, I've got a Daytona and top of the line Ur-Tactical uniforms, BDS gear. Have I finally reached the final level of airsoft?
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what are the most impractical guns you guys own, if any?
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>>3243259
Being that much a faggot is more of a detriment.
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>>3246921
You hit the level-cap when your salinity approaches that of those Has Been Airsoft cucks.
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>>3247728

You mean the GMR?
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>>3247745
You are the second person to claim that Has Been Airsoft is the "new" GMR.
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>>3247794

Oh. Who the fuck are Has Been Airsoft? Bunch of fags?
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>>3247845
Salty cucks that are riding GMR's coat tails by doing a Podcast.
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>>3247870

Sad.

What happened with GMR? Did they all quit after everyone started hating them. I was watching a few of their weapon setup videos on YouTube and the things they were saying made sense. My understanding is that they were huge douches in person and attention whores to boot.
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>>3247931
They still play, I've been to a few games both HBA and GMR were at.

GMR got into minor shit each time and HBA was always nearby each time.

At the MSATO/Centurion Game, GMR used TAG rounds after the staff banned them part of the way through the game, while HBA froze and whined. At Balkar GMR got shit on for holding down an important area (the repeater site) instead of blindly follow orders, while HBA froze and whined.
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>>3247996

Don't know what a TAG round is.

And sounds like HBA are a bunch of wannabes.
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>>3248010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwlfawI6Zl0

they were permitted as of the safety brief in the morning, then mysteriously banned the rest of the event mid day. They've been allowed at every game MSATO or Centurion has done after...
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>>3248046

>banning equipment to nerf a bunch of airshit wannabe pipe hitters

Very mature. I like it.
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>>3248067
I think GMR just did it to fuck with them, our side had a lot of TAGs and no vehicles, TFN (yet another team with a Podcast from the same area) had piles of TAGs to kill vehicles with.
The other team had no TAGs and lots of vehicles. When we were allowed to use TAGs the other team got BTFO really hard.
I think GMR just said fuck it and started lobbing them again at night.
Even after they banned TAGs we still blew them the fuck out.
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>>3246178
And that's why those people get made fun of.
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Is a tight bore barrel and Flat Hop the fastest and easiest way to increase my range? Fairly sure that's what I'm going to do I just wanted the lynch mobs opinions.
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>>3248934
Pretty much
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Are airsoft guns good for killing large bugs?
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>>3250670
That depends, how big a bug are we talking?

>tfw no airsoft Morita to frag bugs with
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>>3250715
>be me
>recently started at a language institute in japan
>while walking to the institute on the first day I saw a hornet the size of my thumb
>ask new friend who's been here a while about them
>tfw they aren't even the largest species

Pic related
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the rifle im looking at needs an 8.4v stick battery but will an 8.4v nunchuck battery work?
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>>3245060
>>3245220
>>3245240
>>3245242
>>3245253
I guess I finally have a story worth storytiming
>be a month ago
>someone organized a game at a local field
>the field is sort of on the side of a hill, lots of slopes
>there's like twice the usual players
>bring two friends and my gf, 'cause it looks fun
>all three of them are entirely new to airsoft
>get briefed
>two human teams (abot 12 people per team) and one robot team(7)
>the humans need to reach and destroy the robot base on top of the hill
>humans do not necessarily need to work together, they are competing against each other
>the robots got a 'juggernaut' (near invulnerable and with an LMG), and the old school players with lots of gear (GLs, snipers, etc)
>"limited spawns": each team has 65 chips at their base, you must have a chip on you to respawn, if you're hit the enemy has 30 seconds to reach you and take your chip
>those chips can also be used to capture robots, rules are kinda complicated
>gf nervous because everyone looks so 'prepared'
>walk to our base
>we're put in the blue human team, apparently we have an alliance with red team
>it's fucking 24 vs 7
>start slow, trying to assess the situation
>east there's a road going uphill to their base
>they have the juggernaut, sniper/GL, and I guess a couple more guys watching that
>west there's a wide open slope, 3 riflemen watching that
>there's a few very narrow and steep roads on our north, through the forest
>attempt to go up the eastern road, get taken out by the sniper because nobody moved up
>the robots can't reach me 'cause I'm too far away so nothing was lost
>some guy tells us to go with him through one of the middle paths
>okay
>it's steep as fuck
>muddy and slippery too
>falling means a trip to the hospital
>start taking fire
>no room to maneuver
>people getting taken out
>I pick off a couple of enemies
>fall back because literally everyone else ded
>fuck I ain't going back up there again
>don't wanna fall and die
1/2
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>>3251224
>dont worry I have a plan
>"okay guys follow me"
>My friends+gf are with me
>Get another rifleman and a sniper to help us
>please note that's 6 out of 24 people, against 7 enemies
>there's a small trench at the bottom of the western field, on the other side
>if we sprint across we can reach it
>they won't hit us 'cause BBwarz
>also they will be under fire from our covering element (the sniper and the rifleman)
>then maybe we can start moving up
>before we even start our sniper takes out one guy
>gogogogogogo
>bbs flying past me
>oh fuck this is amazing
>dive into the trench
>start firing back with my friends
>I kill one, someone else downs another
>three of us are picked off, one of my friend is still going
>we bleed out, our chips intact
>ourguy is hit though
>start walking back to spawn
>our sniper seems to have been hit
>rifleboi is nowhere to be seen
>as we leave an enemy walks down the slope
>there's nobody covering our wounded so he's free to do as he wishes
>takes my friend's chip and goes back up again
>find rifleboi at base
>"dude where were you?"
>"I fell back"

Later on
>find a cluster of people at base
>they're complaining that the enemy's position is too strong
>apparently being three times as many people is not an advantage
>they're tired of walking up and down the slope (lmao)
>try to get them to charge uphill again
>perhaps 7 guys can't do shit against 24 people firing full auto
>"nah dude their sniper is too good he would pick us off"
>the game ends two hours early because literally half the humans left

people are such fucking pussies
and it's not like they were 14 year olds
we had an actual 12 year old on our team and he did better than grown men in their 30s
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>>3251224

bonus track
>gf and friends were playing with rented gear
>they were given paintball masks
>put one on at the safe zone after the game just for shits n giggles
>on a hot sunny day
>I have to remove it shortly after because I was fucking dying
>mfw they wore that all game long and didn't complain even once
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>>3251169
If it fits in, yes.
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>>3247510
Fuckhuge springer revolver
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>>3245060

fubar was fun then? me and my friends were gonna go but schedules ended up getting fucked. still trying to get a refund for my pre-reg ticket.
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>>3247510
My Gas shotgun and my Dan Wesson 715. They're survival horror weapons tier useful
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>>3247510
My entire collection.
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>>3245060
Because most people dont know shit about military tactics. Pinning dont the enemy while others go and flank them is the most basic tactic ever and its still hard to do when people are scared of getting hit
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who here plays exclusively with rubber boots?
>comfy
>easy to air your legs
>temperature controlled by adding or removing socks
>dont get wet
>can go through water areas
>easy to clean
>cheap as h*ck
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>>3251169
Depends on the size of the area for the battery. Nunchucks have more wires so they are a bit more bulky than sticks.
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>>3252681

ive yet to play anywhere particularly wet or muddy, i usually just wear my palladiums
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>>3247510
S&T SVD Dragunov aeg
>too long
>too heavy with Pso
>too underpowered for a sniper rifle/DMR
>too inaccurate
>not RealSword-quality

I still love the dragunov. not enough to pay for a RS, but still.
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>>3252681
I don't play in swampy areas so I use light breathable boots in the summer and heavy boots in the winter
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im looking at the evike box prizes and i have yet to understand how this meme machine works
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>>3252795
the M4 mag is a hicap and shoots it's load into the hopper on top, which empties into the p90.

It's a bit shit, bit it's probably still better than most p90 hicaps.
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>>3252810
so the gun feeds from an AR hicap which is, in turn, fed from a hopper?

why even use a p90 at that point
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>>3252810
>>3252813
I'm pretty sure it's just a tube that routes from the magazine to the chamber.
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>>3247510
WE SCAR-L. Can't use it for 1/3 of the year because fuck buying a set of C02 mags, but it's fun as fuck to shoot and has great recoil if you install a steel bolt assembly.
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>>3252067

Doxxed you lmao.

But no seriously, I had a blast and it was my first event. Our team had some serious issues that kept us from winning but I still had fun just trying to out smart the other team. Problems include:

>Team being afraid to get hit
>Other team spawn camping even though it wasn't allowed, like shooting us in our spawn
>Most of our team leaving after 1400 because pussies
>CO being incompetent
>CO thinking I'm a badass pipe hitter in the Army Reserves and wanting to talk to me at the base when we should be moving towards an objective
>No cohesion
>Not enough radios (I didn't bring one so not going to bitch that one too hard).

I still enjoyed it though. I was literally the only person there with real plates on and I was probably the fastest moving person on our team.

>>3252675

Fire and Maneuver is literally like...Day 1 of the Infantry Handbook.


>When you have a ATS PC and Ronin Senshi belt on and the nicest gear your team has are $40 bump helmets that look like FAST cuts.

I saw so many people drop mags and belts rip and holsters fall. It was hilarious.
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So is 30 odd people considered a big crowd where you play?
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>>3252954

were you guys separatists or russians?
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>>3239934
hey niggers.
I finally got the last of the kevlar I needed for my EOD suit for jugg games and EOD games.

Also got the nard and butt protector for my vest, which are also kevlar. I run level 4 plates in addition to the soft armor inserts. Gets pretty heavy, with the helmet and stuff in addition to the armor.
Picrelated is my normal vest,

Anyone else use real shit? I'm no milsimfag but using authentic gear is fun.

Also got a riot shield. Can't wait for the salty milsimniggers
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>>3252818
Could one theoretically hook up an M4 to MG240 converter and have way more BB’s?
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>>3253477
...Because 1500 is not enough already?
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>>3253487
Too much is never enough.
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>>3253116

Russians.
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>>3253596
this
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>>3252690
>too long
I agree, it's pretty long
>too heavy with Pso
Do you even lift, bitch?
>too underpowered for a sniper rifle/DMR
>too inaccurate
Wow, found a dude, who doesn't know that he should invest in his rifle to make it a good DMR.
>not RealSword-quality
Nothing you can't fix
First, reassemble the gun, change the gearbox lube. Then replace the cylinder head (combat arms), hop-up rubber (purple Prometeus works for me), put an aluminum mozzle, 6.01 barrel (PDI Raven 690 works greatly), put there a 140 spring, install Mosfet and use 11.1 v lipo batteries. Load it with BLS/GEOFF'S 0.4 and you're great.
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>>3253464

I wear Level 4 Standalone plates. Planning on getting a ballistic helmet with my Christmas bonus.
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>>3254283
neat.
what helmet are you buying?
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>>3253464

shields are pretty useless compared to how mad they make people, mine ended up being used to plug holes in cover more than it did for actual hand-held use
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>>3254707
Whenever I play with shields my team seems to do very well, I guess it's just better when supporting a team

Doesn't mean I don't solo sometimes to piss off the "muh realism" fags
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>>3254747

did you get a plexiglass one or sheet metal?
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>>3254869
Rothco Lexan Riot Shield.
Until I have enough money for a real ballistic shield, I'm sticking to my riot boy.

sorry for shit quality, I am zooming from across the room
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>>3254918

i went with aluminum, it seemed cheap to be able to look out of cover with a plexi shield without having to worry about being shot.
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>>3254387

The HHV ATE. Probably going to replace the straps eventually but the rest looks pretty good for the price. And I like American stuff.
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>>3255363
cant you just get plastic repros of that helmet for like 20 bucks?
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>>3255432

Yeah but you see. I had all my gear before I started playing Airsoft. Airsoft just seemed like a fun reason to run around and pretend to be a gunfighter.
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ive been looking at a g&g rifle for a while because it is full metal and comes with a battery and charger. however i found out it has combat machine internals

is that a red flag?
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>>3254046
Firstoff, i'm grateful for every input i can get, so thanks for that.
But from a practical point of view, using a SVD is batshit insane. I think we can agree that it would be more practical to be able to carry a lighter, shorter gun for a longer period of time.
Also, the fucklong upgrade barrel alone costs as much as a new gun, so there's that. Not to mention spare parts for the gearbox.

All that aside, does anybody here know which steps i should take if my aluminium nozzle doesn't fit the cylinder head? I'm a litte too cautious to grab the dremel.
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>>3256096
Yes, there are shorter guns, but they require more money to become DMRs.
>barrel cost
That's why I said PDI Raven, not just PDI.
>spare parts
Yes, they're rare and it bothers me
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>>3256517
>Yes, there are shorter guns, but they require more money to become DMRs.
lolwut
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>>3256096
Nozzles and cylinder heads are almost all standard width. Only the length differs.
You don't need to use 690mm barrel and most likely even shouldn't. It's very likely going to be undervolumed with 0,40g bbs. Generally you want at least 2,5 volume ratio when you're shooting heavy bbs.
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>>3256043
Depends on the price.
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>>3256638
499 canabucks
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>>3256639
If CAD = 0,8USD, that sounds very shitty deal.
AirsoftGI sells a lot higher quality Lonex guns for 300USD.
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>>3256650
i really want to buy my rifle in-store because im weary of receiving a lemon and from what ive looked into, the warranty policies arent great from online canadian suppliers and so i am limited to one retailer that is 2 hours away from me

if im going to get something, it basically has to be from this selection
http://www.fcsurplus.ca/shopping/products/c427-airsoft-assault-rifles/
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>>3256663
You won't notice a lemon at the store. Lonex guns are more reliable than Krytacs.
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>>3256667
>You won't notice a lemon at the store

it has a rage i can test the gun in before i leave
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>>3256676
Well do what you want as long as you reckon that you're buying an expensive low end gun instead of cheaper high end gun.
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>>3256682
if you're saying lonex is reliable and durable, i'll look into it
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>>3256676
Most online stores run a few round through a gun in the similar manner you would before putting it in stock or shipping it. There's no guarantee that it won't be a lemon a thousand rounds later by going in store.
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R8 me chums
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>>3256813
Forgot to add my AK tbqh
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/asg/ could do with a wiki imo, can we find people to contribute? The discord sadly failed to do so. As such I didnt have much chance to test how the site handles traffic.
With some more content we could try getting reddit onboard too, as I've not seen any other airsoft wiki last time I checked.

https://bb.wiki.gd is the address for now, would be nice to get some contributors and feedback.
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>>3257443

it'd probably be worth at least having articles about each part of an airsoft gun ie hop-up, bucking, gearbox and all that so people can understand what parts do what, and what upgrading them will do. the one thing thing hobby lacks is a decent source of info that isn't a shitty youtube video or an ancient forum thread.
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>>3257538
This was my hope too when I had the idea for a wiki, because info is really scattered all over the place.
I've already added the categories for that but I'm not the most qualified to write something up on those I'm afraid so I need a little help here.
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>>3256043
Combat Machine gearboxes are total shit. Get a G&P instead so that you at least have a decent gearbox to start off with.
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>>3256813
Paint jobs look a bit shit but nice collection
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>>3257443
If you can get good admins which will ban dramafags and dont end up being dramafags I can see a good opportunity like 1d4chan
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>>3257443
What's the point when every issue can already be solved with a simple google search? It's just bbwars, not some super obscure and in-hobby that requires a multiple page wiki to explain it.
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>>3257713

to prevent this
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>>3257713
Because google searches for these things usually results in Youtube vids from kids or e-celebs which don't actually get into the details or posts from 2011 on a defunct airsoft Sniper forum where people fanboy over things.
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>>3257703
With the lack of activity its pointless trying to assign mods yet, but I'll try to stay ontop of things for now.
Maybe if we add the wiki to the OP copypasta I'll start looking for mods but they will need to be on the discord.
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>>3257720
This, its seriously frustrating.
Articles that everyone can update should be much higher quality than one opinionated forum post in the depths of some forum that links to expired images.
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>>3257720
>>3257734
I'm writing a book about airsoft which covers how airsoft guns work, along with other things. Should I greentext a part of it?
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>>3257944
You should write it in the wiki tbqhfamalam.
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>Friend has a combat machine that he bought at full price like a good goy for 200 bucks because he "didn't want anything expensive"
>Realizes they suck after a while in comparison with everyone else's upgraded guns
>Wants a new gun with better internals
>First looking at some top shelf shit
>Slowly starts looking at cheaper options
>He's unironically considering an identical looking Cyma over an LCT that have a price difference of 50 bucks because he's being a cheap cunt again
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>>3257955
I was gonna try to make a little money with it since it has a lot of what I hope to be original thoughts. Pic related
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>>3257963

but cyma's 130 dollar guns are good
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>>3257973
>Candy as ammunition

What.
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>>3257978
LCT's are better internally and externally and its a 245 dollar one at that over a 185 railed up version of a 040.
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>>3257973
>I was gonna try to make a little money with it
Wat.
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>>3257979
Since it's october, now would be a good time to buy a bunch of different types of candy and test how well they work as ammo for a diy airsoft gun.
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>>3257982

from the looks of these LCTs it looks like you're just paying for real wood and heavier construction. i dont know why you'd want a 9 pound toy gun.
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>>3257995
The fuck are you smoking that makes this seem like a good idea?
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>>3257996
>Completely ignoring the internals
Besides, 9 pounds is what many AKs get to
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>>3258003
>Completely ignoring the internals

what internals? i don't even know where to find them other than the fact it has a gen 3 gearbox
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>>3258001
I already tested a few types of candy. skittles work particularly well as a buckshot like projectile.
>mfw mentos hop themselves up
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>>3258011
Better gearbox components, motor, hop, etc
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>>3258021

where do i see that tho
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>>3258026
...Inside the gun.

An LCT is a higher quality product.
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>>3258026
People have reviewed the internals alongside the accuracy of LCTs and their internals are superior in quality to a Cyma as is their hop up. Cymas are good budget guns, but they're not as good as a LCT
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r8
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>>3258058
Boring and also ugly eyepro.
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>>3258058
>200 dollar hoodie
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>>3258058
+ FG
+ G3
+ superior Arc'teryx kneecaps
- 2x eyepro
- generic plate carrier
- mall ninja helmet

6/10, see me after class.
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>>3258058
What's even new about it?

>>3258083
First Spear plate carriers are cool as hell, take that back.
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>>3258070
190 dollars actually this time

>>3258083
>FG
Ranger Green and Wolf Grey

>generic plate carrier
First Spear AAC

>>3258099
New coat and pants, basically, also I actually tried to make something that matched with itself, so basically avoided mixing a thousand colours and patterns for once.
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>>3258058
Get some proper footwear you dipshit. You aren't 80 years old going for a hike you are roleplaying a military bad ass.
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>>3258058
Too fucking clean.
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>>3258107
This.
Except almost everything about that loadout looks like airsoft tism instead of military.
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>>3258107
Oh, okay, my bad, I'll try to make sure to get military footwear in the future.
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>>3258107
Merrels are proper footwear my dude.
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>>3256813
>CZ
At least you have decent taste in pistols, but everything else looks like e-celeb tier.
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>>3258118
Yeah because when we are airsofting we are pretending we are a training exercise aren't we? You are a monumental bellend.
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>>3258058
Honestly, can't really complain, looks bretty gud.
>G3
Which brand is it?
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>>3258058
>G3
neat
how much was it?
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>>3258130
I'm trying to mock you, you idiot. If you look at those Rangers, you'll note some of them have the same goddamn boots as I do, Salomon Quests. Hiking boots are pretty damn popular with military.

>>3258135
>>3258136
Tokyo Marui G3 with Classic Army metal parts, cut down into a G3KA4. Not sure how much, the gun is maybe eight years old, maybe 600-700 new back in the day, internal upgrades included.
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>>3258130
>Get some proper footwear
>But don't get some proper footwear tried and tested by people who put their gear through the toughest shit
Yeah nah I think you're the bellend here mate.
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I still have my Cryes and Solomon boots from the army, how much do you think i could rip off some airsoft kid for them?
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>>3258200
Check ebay.

Did you keep any MREs?
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>>3258200
Depends on the model of Cryes. If they're ACs, then I'd reckon you could get some brave bbwarrior to pay like $135-$150 individually.
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>>3258210
No, I remember hearing you could sell those 12 bucks a pop so people used to jack MRE boxes all the time
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>>3258212
I have combat bottoms with knee pads, and a garrison top

not sure which gen it is, its the one that has two velco strips on the shoulder instead of the block
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>>3258200
Funny thing btw for you airsoft guys, crye lost the contract with the army awhile ago so all new guys in army SOF have to get issued the gay looking patagonias, before I got out all of us with cryes refused to turn ours in to get the new patagonias
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any thoughts on the Ares Amoeba guns?
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>>3258432
avoid
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>>3258484
why
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>>3258432
My brother and a few of my friends have them.

The motors don't last.
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>>3258497
Ares has bad QC issues on their internals.
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>>3258484
>>3258501
well shit

i guess its either a g&g or asg gun for me then
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>>3257443
Come on, noone? :/
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>>3259293
Fuxk. Off.
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>>3252954

Good thing you didnt go to Reckoning in Springfield
We had the same issues
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>>3256813
9.5/10
love the L85
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anyone get a Box
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>>3256615
>Nozzles and cylinder heads are almost all standard width.
Unfortunately the nozzle i bought did neither fit the upgrade cylinder head nor the standard one, it's off by less than a milimeter in diameter. Putting it on produces scratches on the metal, so it can't be the o-ring that's too tight.
Should i get a new one and hope it fits or or should i drill the nozzle hole wider?
Also, it's unrelated to the SVD, that one is just for the looks, not for playability
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>>3260923
Buy a standard size cylinder head instead.
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>>3256043
You were looking at the c7 i take it
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>>3258058

> <18 YO in pic
>plebtier cawadoody setup
>grey in a forrest

get out.
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>>3261536
>you're not dressed correctly for airsoft!!

leave it to 4channers to be elitist about things that don't matter.
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>>3261536
>Doesn't know the baby faced Finn of many loadouts, the owner of 200€< hoodie, the slayer of G3 handguards and the whore of many attentions.
Newfag.
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>>3261912
>of many loadouts
So why do we only ever see him dressed in the same old every day clothes with some load bearing shit ontop. Take off the vest and helmet and you have a guy shopping at your local supermarket.
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>>3261912

>implying I havent served my time in an infantry unit and understand the core concepts of cam & concealment
>implying airsoft is so serious that how much money you put into your cosplay matters
>implying elitism over practicality and reason

Who's the newfag now, fag.
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>>3261535
yes the leaf rifle
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>>3262277
>if you didn't operate in the sand bawks you don't know nothin kid

nothing you criticized him for was even legitimate. if you weren't colorblind you'd notice he was wearing a greet top and rig with only grey pants. you pretty much just glanced at the photo and make a harsh judgement because you don't like the way he looks.
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>>3262463
And what's wrong with that?

The picture is all we have to go on,he posted it to be judged.

>Core concept of the post bruh
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>>3262511
Yeah but youre supposed to say nice things when people post their kits
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>>3258111
This. This so much.

Most Gearqueers tend to have the tidiest clothes around. Sometimes i think the more expensive the gear, the less Mudstains it can take.

When did getting covered in mud and dirt lose its appeal to you?
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>>3262716
I dont get why people get upset about dirt on gear. I buy milspec so they wont easily tear like 20 dollar rothcos
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>>3262277
>Doesn't know the regular attention fags
>Implying airsoft scene isn't filled with conscripts
>Butthurt over someone else being more passionate of their hobbies.
>That damage control
Maybe you should play paintball instead. It's all about practicality with zero autism and cosplay. Think of the tactical advantage of your superior military training against those kids in colorful jumpsuits.
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he burned my patch
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>>3262923

speaking of that video, does anyone know wtf this lil nigga is wearing on his face?
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>>3262716
But I spent £200 on these cryes I can't get them wet!!1

Meanwhile a rental kiddie in a hoodie and jeans is having the time of his life wading through fucking clay to outflank people who've spent more on their gear than they have on their fucking cars.
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>>3262998
I don't mean to rustle anybody's jimmies, but...
Why do people spend so much on their gear?

You're not a real Navy Seal crawling through mud puddles for seven years with two hundred kilograms of equipment. You're a guy playing pretend with fake guns.
You know how much my CQB kit (uniform+knee/elbow pads+LBE+helmet) cost? About 70 bucks. Used surplus uniform, 20 buck chinese FSBE, aliexpress pads and a cheap repro helmet. It's about six months old now, and shows no signs of wear. I am not shy about going prone or crawling. Will it last for 10 years? Probably not. But I might want to buy a different kit in a year or two. Who knows, I might not even play in five years.

What's the use of a "real" vest? You aren't going to be loading it like real soldiers do. I have a 30 buck JPC repro. It's eventually going to break, but it's gonna last for a while. Surely enough to get my money's worth. And when I get tired of it, I can just buy another LBE.

People spend 200 bucks in crye pants. It may be fucking magic clothing, but you're not going to spend ten days lying in a wet ditch in minus zero temperatures. I'm buying a full milsurplus Polish uniform for 40, new. There's used flecktarn shirts for literally three fiddy. How can you justify spending so much when you're not going to use it to its fullest?
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>>3263053
Most expensive bit of gear I own is a pair of knockoff cryes in DPM, cost me £35. everything else is milsurp or chinese ebay clones.

I do not understand the people who spend hundreds either. If you just want to play dressup, why are you even at the field instead of shitposting on facebook?
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>>3263053
>Why do people spend so much on their gear?

more like airsoft gives people an excuse to buy expensive gear because its the only time you can wear any of it and not look like a school shooter or a special needs child
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>>3262989
A Dye mask probably. They're a staple of SpeedQB players.
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>>3262998
I never understood that, I have great fun wading in the river and butt sliding down hills in my camo trousers that were $100ish, whats the worst that can happen, you just throw them in the wash and go again next week
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>>3261536
> <18 YO in pic
23

>grey in a forrest
+ Ranger Green, plus grey shades don't exactly matter in these ranges where you'll be spotted when moving anyways, as long as the shades are not eye-searing bright

>>3261912
well desu I don't exactly post here too often any more, also I have six of those 200 dollar hoodies, not just one

>>3262099
Because that shit is comfy, best kits are normal shit with gear thrown over, though I'd argue the First Spear coat isn't exactly an everyday one

>>3262277
dank u for ur cervix, also you're not the only one who has served, like >>3262807 said, the whole scene at least around here is full of those people

t. medic

>>3262511
I think his point was that there's also plentiful green in the kit, not just grey

>>3262672
No you're not, if something is shit you are expected to call it out, that's how we get progress

>>3258111
>>3262716
Being covered in shit doesn't give you any advantages whatsoever, beyond making you look warry and whatever, life isn't Predator where you become invisible to thermals by covering yourself with mud, so washing your shit regularly does make plenty sense

+ it was the first time I took these clothes out for airshit, I see no reason to start rolling in crap for the sake of appearing browner than the average American criminal, so people on a mongolian cave tapestry bulletin board will think I am badass

>>3263053
>>3263067
Because like >>3263091 said, I just see airshit as an excuse to hoard gear and to take it outside, going to buy groceries while dressed up in gear would probably raise a few eyebrows

Plus while I have have some specific pieces of gear and clothing specifically for airshit use, I do in general hoard my shit for actual use, in case Ivan crosses the border and decides to establish the second Soviet Union
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>>3263053
Milspec stuff is resilient and retains it's value when you decide to sell it. Condor isn't durable and the resale value is next to nothing. In the long run you end up rebuying gear because chink stuff tends to disintegrate.

>six months
I've been part of this shit for close to a decade. The first couple years I bought new ~50€ boots every year. The break in period always made my feet blister which wasn't something I looked forward to. Nowadays I buy 100-150€ Magnum boots which don't cause blisters and can handle 2-3 years of weekend airsoft.
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>>3263053
I get spending money on gear that has a really good warranty, and boots. For example, I bought a $115 Shellback Banshee years ago over something like a $45 Condor or Pantac plate carrier because it came with a lifetime no questions asked warranty; same goes for a Goruck SD20 that I bought for everyday use.
Boots are pretty obvious because you gotta care for your feet and those $30 Rothco jungle boots aren't gonna cut it.

I don't get Crye though because to my knowledge their warranty only covers manufacturer's defects, and even then you have to pay for postage both ways. If you're going to spend $150 on some pants or $500 on a plate carrier, the company better stand by their product and at least give you something like a 5 year warranty.
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>>3263134
>comparing boots to LBE
It's not the same. Boots are one of the you SHOULDN'T cheap out on. Like eye pro.
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Anyone get an Evike box?
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>>3263429
Not this time, looked like a garbage run
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>>3261536
I wear an OD jumpsuit and black armor for airsoft everywhere, fuck you nigger
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>>3263429

yeah i bought one. they sold out in like ten minutes. just for giggles i made a drop table
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what is the ideal first gun to get?

a rifle, sidearm, shotgun, etc...?
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>>3263778

handguns and shotguns are practically cosmetic. just get a $100-$150 aeg rifle.
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What if hypothetically one bought an almost 750 AEG as their first rifle, would that hypothetically be a bad move?
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>>3263800
>just get a $100-$150 aeg rifle.

i have a good budget so im looking at the g&g rk74-t

i was just wondering if getting a pistol first would be more practical
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>>3263820
Get a CYMA CM.040L if you want a tactical AK. G&Gs are pretty shitty for the price and a CYMA will do everything it does just as well if not better.
Pistols are pretty much afterthoughts too.
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>>3263833
is cyma overall a reliable brand?

i need it to last as long as it can b4 it needs repairs
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>>3263623
You get shipping weight of your box yet? My brother's was 12 lbs even mine was 15 lbs
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like this image to die instantly
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>>3263884
Nothing is worse than getting to the field and seeing there's a group of /pol/tards with meme patches already there
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>>3263857
They are. You can get outclassed by fancier guns but they can still hold their own over years and years
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>>3263905
i'll look into them then

thanks
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>>3263939
Yep, Cymas in the 140-200 category (Cheaper on sale, about 100-130 on sites like Evike) are respectable. Upgrading them is fairly easy too, as a better high torque motor and flathop/tightbore barrel makes them very competitive.
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>>3263857
I have a CM.045 that went through three other owners before I picked it up two years ago. It still runs like a charm and still has all stock parts aside from a lighter spring and a flat hop/m-nub combo.
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what are the most reliable middle to higher-end brands (no more than 400 bucks)?
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>>3263892
Unfortunately there is more of them out there than you think... Hell, I've seen ppl like that at my own field.
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what about g&g's combat machine internals are bad?

will they last?
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the ksc robocop gun is so tempting even if it is plastic

fuck i have to get it
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>>3264226
They have some pretty cheap gearboxes made from brittle pot metal, and the piston is ACM/Dboys tier.
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>>3263857
I don't really get this attitude. Learn to fix your own shit, it isn't that difficult and cyma AKs are LCT compatible, so parts are easy as hell to get.
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>>3264575
i dont have a problem with a gun eventually needing repairs

however, if im spending a good amount of money on a gun, i expect it to last a good while before it needs them

otherwise, what's the point? im not made of money
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>>3264575
People like having to get the most out of something before it needs to be serviced. It's the reason why people buy Toyotas over Fiats, or Lexus over Jaguar.
If "dude just fix it when it breaks lmao, everything breaks eventually" was a decent mindset then everyone would be driving Fiat spiders and Yugos to their local fields where they would play with WELL and ARES rifles.
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>>3264637
'oh no a $5 part might break better spend an extra $100 on my gun so it doesn't'
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>Order gun from China
>Estimated delivery time 7-20 days
>It actually takes 7 days

Thought they put the lower estimate there just to crush dreams.
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>>3264641
Not that anon, but i believe it's rather a
>"Oh no the $5 part broke so i have to replace it again, just like the twenty times before/ i should've invested $100 more to begin with"
- mindset
Just like my G&G AKMS. Reviews said it would be quite decent, and it wasn't cheap too. But somehow i got a monday-issued gun and it didn't even last me 3000 shots.
Now i'm putting almost $120 in it to get it running again.
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>>3264641
Yes, because Cymas are the exact same in regards to internals than a factory made LCT. Buying an LCT over a Cyma saves me time and money on upgrades as well as future time repairing a cheaper part on a Cyma.
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>>3264637
>Fiat spiders and Yugos

lmao the fuck are those
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>>3264202
There were three at the indoor field I play at occasionally the last time I was there, no surprise they weren't calling hits and they overshot the young kids there
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>>3265551
It's the worst at milsim events and ops. Once this group of 8 memelord retards were doing the whole autistic screech thing as well as reeeeeing at the base camp. Apparently they were camping out at the field overnight too and wouldn't shut the fuck up. Doesn't help that one had a riot shield with "Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Furher" on it which understandably pissed quite a few people off.
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>>3265567
There is having tasteful memes, then there's being a complete asshole. Unfortunately, these /pol/tards don't have a shred of decency left in their stupid little brains.
What happens on 4chan, stays on 4chan...
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>>3265567
>Be annoying as fuck
>Do offensive shit
>Play in a way that ruins experience for other players

HURRRR WHY YOU SO TRIGGERED BRO?!? KEKEKEK

>>3265579
I'm genuinely curious if these people even visit 4chan, outside of /pol/ there's no board culture that encourages that shit in public and you'd think if they're into airsoft they would occasionally find their way over here. Also, no memes are tasteful
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>>3265586
>Memes aren't tasteful
I would beg to differ, while most of them are cringy and shit, some are kinda fun...
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>>3265579
>>3265586
There's the badly drawn gadsden flag patches meme (I find those kind of amusing 2bh), and then there's the weeb patches, kekistan and unironic references to Nazi Germany.
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>tfw weeb patch owner
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>>3265302
>$5 part breaks
>Replace it with $10 SHS part
>Doesn't break again
Damn that was so fucking hard wasn't it.
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>>3265701
>Buy 150 dollar gun
>Dump money on replacement parts plus upgrade parts (40 for a good motor, etc)
>Eventually have gun that costs as much as a more expensive gun but with shittier externals and hours of labor needed
Wtf I hate money and time now
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>>3242494
>Boi, you got som splain to do...
You have to file them down or something to get them to fit?
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>>3265736
150€ buys you a lot better internals than any stock gun has.
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>>3265736
>Hours of labor
Have you ever even opened a gun before? You can replace every single part in a gearbox in under an hour.

>Costs as much as an expensive gun but with shittier externals
Yes, and significantly better internals.
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>>3265749
>You can replace every single part in a gearbox in under an hour
If you know what you're doing, yes. The average person doesn't work on their internals save for maybe a hop up upgrade.
>>3265744
The point was saving money, so tell me how 150 stock gun + 150 in parts plus shipping plus the time it takes to put it together and troubleshoot it is better in cost than a good out of the box 245 dollar gun that includes a high torque motor and steel internals with a flat hop mod requiring minimal work?
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>>3265759
You don't ever have to touch it again. 250€ guns won't have good internals unless you can find E&Ls on sale, but they don't have as good internals as 150€ would buy for your 100€ Cyma.
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>>3265759
>The average person doesn't work on their internals
Yes they do. Teching is a huge part of the hobby and countless people do it. I've met very, very few people that have not worked on their own gun at least once.

>is better in cost than a good out of the box 245 dollar gun
Because those $150 in parts will make it a significantly better gun than the 245 dollar one performance wise. On top of that, how are you getting this number exactly? The original point was that you'd be retarded to continually replace the same $5 part over and over again with an equally shitty part that breaks repeatedly when instead you could just get a slightly more expensive but still budget minded part like SHS that will only break in very rare cases that are typically due to something else that you fucked up in the gun. $20 piston and pistol head, $10 cylinder head, $5 nozzle, and if your gun has poor stock gears then $25 gears. Right there you spent $60 to replace essentially every major gearbox component with a significantly more reliable one (With some of them unnecessary and being able to be DIY'd to work just as well instead) and you wont have to replace any more broken parts.
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>>3265738
Nope, out of the box they fit a stock E&L
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>>3265775
>Yes they do
What bizarro universe do you live in? Most people don't even think about internals until it fails.
>25 dollar gears
You either buy Siegetek or you buy shit for third party replacement gears. That's already setting you back about 125 USD. 40 for a good high torque or speed motor depending on what you need and then you got the 60 dollars you talked about. Congratulations, you spent 225 dollars on a potmetal exterior gun.
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>>3265789
I live here in the real world where most people tech their own guns, especially when something breaks. You're a dumbass if you honestly believe that SHS or ZCI gears are bad, they've been proven time and time again over the past few years to hold up in most every normal build there is. On top of that many manufacturers wont even need replacement gears in the first place unless you're going for a different ratio. Many cheap brands like JG and Cyma already have great high torque motors to begin with, and again, ZCI motors are about $25 or $30 and are some of the most widely used out there with higher TPA than anything you'll find in higher end guns currently. You now have a pot metal gun (Or many cases where it's steel or aluminum, like Cyma or G&P in that price range) that will outperform every single other gun in the price range even if you raised the budget by $100.
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>>3265795
You wouldn't have to worry about replacing most parts at all on a better gun, you know.
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>>3265776
Not mine... What E&L do you have?
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>>3265805
Gen2 74u. E&L magwells are all the same even with the Spartan series IIRC
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>>3265813
Hm, I have a Spartan series -74 and they just don't wanna seat all the way, not even engaging the mag release.
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>>3265820
Hell, they won't even fit my Cyma -47!
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>>3265775
>The original point was that you'd be retarded to continually replace the same $5 part over and over again with an equally shitty part that breaks repeatedly
I'm the anon who wrote that $5 example, but it was just to point out that you often tend to buy things twice if you buy cheap.
But it's nice to see the thread so lively.
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>>3265789
You remind me of that smug cunt who refused to shim their gears because "lol replacing parts is easier."
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>>3265802
You don't have to replace "most parts" on a cheaper one either. More often than not the only part that is actually at risk of breaking is a piston with plastic teeth. Many cheaper brands have solid gears, and anything else you replace is just for performance like the nozzle and cylinder head.
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>>3265802
Tell me a what stock gun is indestructible?
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My dboys 74 has been going strong for nearly a year now with no upgrades. Am I doing something wrong?
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I bought a Cyma cm. 077 yesterday on my trip to Estonia
So far so good, had some quality of life improvements that I like.
Only issue I have is with the pistol grip that is pretty creaky
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>>3265870
How does the fakepul furniture hold up?
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>>3265875
Surprisingly well. Definately more higher end on looks department, and only the pistol grip is somewhat bad. Though that might be because som screw needs tightening.
I have yet to put the gun in real test, so I have yet to see how sturdy it is overall.
I'll probably update after the weekend on the situation.
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>>3265853
how many rounds have you been running through?
I had to replace the plastic hop up unit after 5000 bb's, other than that, she's doing fine.
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>>3265890
I have literally no idea. 50,000+? It still shoots out to 50 metres, though the accuracy is horrible.
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>when you find out the shipped weight of your evike box and you start calculating how much each prize pack weighs
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>>3265913
Are you factoring in the weight of the packaging material itself? Evike posts their gun weights without the package.
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>>3265885
Just bought a new cyma ak74 today and the pistol grip is pretty bad on it as well. Let me know if you find a solution.
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>>3265913
>prize box
Do you really think anyone actually gives a shit?
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>>3265913
What weight did you get?
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>>3265919

im assuming packaging weighs an extra pound or two. i'm mostly using it to rule out prizes like the shitty cyma m14/m4 package. apparently the m14 alone weighs 12 pounds.
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>>3265924
14.40lbs
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>>3265875
Bought one of these as well, got the same issue with the pistol grip but the rest of the furniture seems pretty solid. Shame the flashhider grub screw was on too tight causing some horrific firing issues, now to deal with the new feeding issue that cropped up.
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>>3265387
Cars with notoriously bad track records for being absolute shit. The reliability of Yugos used to be a running joke of sorts in the States, and probably in Europe too.
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>>3265931
Brother got 12 even, mines 15.3 with a replacement piston in the shipment as well
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>>3265913
I though companies like Evike and AirsoftGI had flat shipping weights for all their mystery boxes so people didn't know what they got until they opened it up.
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>>3265958

guess not. shipping companies take package weight very seriously so they probably aren't allowed to fudge the numbers. usps will flat out ban you for it.
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>>3265958
Forum posts say that's the case but just judging by the posts for this box it seems that's probably not happening. I can't imagine these companies would actually pay more to ship something to keep it a secret and I find it even more unlikely any shipping company would intentionally list weights higher than they are, that would create so many headaches where people would complain something was stolen out of the box if the weight was off
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>>3263091
This guy gets it. I own way more expensive tacticool shit than I really ever should, but then again I also use it in more than just airsoft. It all started after I graduated from a police academy, the .mil bros there really turned me on to the world of high speed kit. Now I use it all over: Paintball, shooting with real steel, the occasional militia meeting, the list goes on and on. I consider myself something of a survivalist so it kinda makes sense. Mostly I just like to collect the kit, it looks cool as shit and I have hobbies and as well as other interests that make it worth having. It also just makes me happy at a really basic level to be able to outfit myself like a special operator as a civilian. God bless the USA.
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>>3266060
Do you spell Zombie with a double g?
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>>3266062
Kek
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>>3265893
Mine spewed out multiple bb's at one because of the cheap hopup unit.
I'm a bit confused at how you managed to keep it alive so long, Wiring in the magazine chamber is brittle and shouldn't last too long as well. Guess you got really lucky.
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>>3266124
Downgrading the power hugely probably helped, it comes in at about 0.95j on 0.25s

It's hilarious to shoot sniper kids with it.
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Does anyone have experience with these Spiritus Systems micro rigs? I like the modularity and price, but I feel like the D3CR has a more efficient setup out of the box. Pretty sure running a holster wedge would be more difficult on the SS rig as well based on how much the mags stick out of the top.
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>>3266667
I think it looks pretty goofy if you ask me, and I'd probably go for a D3CR over it like you said
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>>3266667
>>3266681
looks fugly desu
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>>3266681
>>3266667

yeah that looks pretty dorky
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>>3266688
>>3266690
I'm trying to get a sort of bodyguard/vehicle operator flavored low-profile kit going, something that can hold everything I need (a few MP5 magazines, pistol and spare magazine, two tourniquets, and one empty pouch for admin use) while being as small and maneuverable as possible.

The tiny footprint and availability of dedicated SMG inserts were major selling points for me, and finding a used D3CR in a color I want is a lot harder than I expected since I'm specifically looking for the older model with the stuff-it pouch.
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>>3266701
i'd just get that one russian d3cr repro
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>>3266701
Have you looked into getting a Russian or Chink repro of the D3?
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>>3266703
Thought about getting a TMC clone, but I've heard mixed things about them. Russian models look alright, but the real thing is only a little bit more and would hold value better when you factor in international shipping.
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>>3266701

it just seems like a lot of money for whats basically a nylon square with some pockets.
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aaand now I got a hardon for that haley rig.

Is 7.62mm reliable shop and is the TMC knockoff good? Only found video spoken in poortugal.
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>Surplus Alice rigs are 8 bucks in the USA
>Not even that common
>Poorfags would rather buy a shitty condor vest that falls apart in 6 months than buy something that lasts a decade of use
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>>3266795
The brand sure increases the price. But it is designed for real weapons use so you would not want have your life depend on emerson rig sewn in a chinese sweatshop. You really can only see the differences if you get to compare them both. Usually the knockoff has much weaker sewing and cheaper materials.
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>>3266808
Kids dont know how to adjust harnesses. I started with a surplus bundeswehr H-harness that was actually wuite comfy when I learned to adjust it.
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>>3266816
>Bundeswehr H-harness
Ay, that was my first one too!
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>>3266795
Yeah, $70 for the chassis itself is pretty nuts. Though the price of getting it set up is about the same as buying something like a HSGI AO rig at $60 and then buying pouches for it.
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>>3266808
They're more like $25 and a lot surplus stores stopped carrying them years ago since every branch has long emptied their stocks of the things save for like LC-1 rucksacks and belts. I like my ALICE setup, but honestly modern chest rigs are a lot more convenient to use.
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>>3266808
"B-but ALICE won't work with all these cool pouches I bought!"
>surplus FLC-IIs are $15
>has more MOLLE space than most players will ever use
>Beginners and cheapsofters continue to buy Conderp rigs

I'll admit that Condor's really upped their game over the last few years, but I'll never understand why they're the go-to for cheap gear when milsurp is both cheaper and higher quality.
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are gbbr's more prone to breakage than aeg's?
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>>3267226
Not really. It's just that most GBBRs use cheap zinc alloys for all their internals instead of steel to keep the price down.
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>>3267239
how difficult are they to repair?
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>>3267239
That is exactly why they are more prone to breakage though
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>>3267239
what if they have steel internals?
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>>3267249
They're stupid simple to repair if you know even a fraction of how a real gun works. Your only real issue would be things like tiny springs going flying if you're not paying attention.

>>3267286
Yeah I guess.

>>3267329
The parts will still wear down over time like anything else mechanical, but at least they won't shit the bed like cast alloy parts.
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>>3267349
>The parts will still wear down over time like anything else mechanical

how often? am i looking at a rifle needing a repair in like every 6 months or something?
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>>3267359
I doubt it, but things will break or wear down enough sooner or later. I'd say more like a year or so for stock parts and god knows how long for reinforced steel ones. That's just the nature of things in bbwars and it applies to electric, gas, and even spring guns.
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>>3267375
i see, thanks
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anyone know if the G&P WOC M4A1 GBB is any good?
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>>3266807
>Too much elastic and no magnets mean all but the thiccest mags will flop around in the pistol pouches, pull tabs don't make much of a difference
>GP pouches are borderline useless because TMC made them super tiny for some reason
>Also feels like the magazine pouches are smaller, but not enough to impede use

This only applies to the standard D3CR/clone. I don't have any experience with the heavy variant or its replicas.
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>>3267445
Well, mght as well try it. If I like the design then I can just buy the real one after the copy breaks down.
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>>3267445
>magnets

thats a thing?
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If you guys want some quality gear at a good price, there's a spicy lad on Ebay known as Rustacgear and he has all sorts of Haley Strategic DC3R ripoffs and they are actually very good quality.
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>>3267504
The real D3CR has a magnet sewn into each pistol pouch for additional retention. Mainly for single-stack magazines.

>>3267595
>they have correctly-proportioned clones in digiflora
>for $100 shipped
I don't need another. I don't need another...
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how much do i need to spend on the snow wolf m82 to make it decent
and is the m107 superior?
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>>3266807
>TMC
>Geardo
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>>3268276
Sitting behind a hospital reception desk for half a year does not make you a soldier.
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>>3268276
That's why I didn't become a medic.




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