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Ok, so my post kept getting deleted on the Bitcoin subreddit and someone told me I should post here.

I am a long-time cypher punk and crypto expert who has been in the industry since 1992. I worked on the OpenPGP standard back in the early days as well as the XMPP protocol, to name a few. I am proud to say that I was friends with Hal Finney, who was my mentor during the OpenPGP days and whose death sent shockwaves through the community.

I have met and emailed with Nick Szabo. I have argued with Adam Back on mailing lists. I know all of these guys, and I know the culture and unspoken standards held by those who have been in this game as long as I have. Here is a hint: just about every notion you hold about the intrinsic nature of cryptography is naive or elementary.

With that said, I am here to say one thing, and quite emphatically at that; Craig Steven Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto (so is Dave Kleiman). "Dont trust, verify" is an absolute joke, and seeing hoardes of GREEDY non-techies parrot this BS every time the man is brought up is not only disheartening, but laughably naive. If you want to learn the fundamentals of crypto, stop listening to YouTubers and start learning law.

The man is a prick, and he is difficult to work with. I have met Craig twice; once in 2004 at a conference and again last year. He is massively brilliant and I have learned more about crypto currency from watching two talks he did on YouTube than anyone else. He has a founders perspective and understands nuances in the protocol that noone else has gotten yet, to my knowledge. He is a treasure of our time, and to see him characterized as a con artist or a scammer is more a sign than ever that you are all blind sheeps and sycophants.

Please do your research. And stop listening to YouTubers or hucksters trying to put naive ideas in your head.
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>>11351261
link & btc is shit
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go back faggot
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>>11351261
fuck off craig
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By the way, I hold equal amounts of BTC and BCH and have no plans on moving a significant amount of either. Although at some point I do plan on withdrawing one (1) BCH so my son can experiment.
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>>11351261

Do you have a throwaway email fellow Cypherpunk?
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>>11351261
agreed. there are a handful of non-retards here that agree with yo and see it for the obvious truth that it is but this board is full of blockstream shills, noobs brainwashed from r/bitcoin and straight up NPC trolls.
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>>11351261
https://www.techbullion.com/iot-b2b-security-logistics-platform-and-a-distributed-ledger-alliance-interview-with-bruce-garcia-ceo-conventment/
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Go back
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>>11351261
R u jvp?
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BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH vBCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH BCASH
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>>11351261
1 bch = $1,000,000.00
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>>11351261
brain washed, this man is not satoshi
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>>11351383
Watch what he said faggot especially the 2014 video
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>>11351381
I just hope it reaches 30k tbqh then il be a millionaire
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>>11351305

Would you mind posting yours instead? I can't make a throw away right now.

>>11351358

Nein, I am not nearly as much of a celebrity as Joseph! :p

His blog is an absolute gem, if you haven't read any yet.


>>11351309

Thank you, I know there are a few Craig fans on here. NPC is a really hilarious meme by the way. I know way too many of those in my field, sadly.
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>>11351383

Brainwashed by whom?

I was one of the first people to come to this conclusion besides those close to Craig, and without much deliberation. Gordon Maxwell and Adam Back are completely aware, which is why they have been pushing un-democratic idiotics like "do not trust, verify" to discredit him.
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>>11351489

Some food for thought. "Dont trust, verify" is incompatible with most productive and stable systems of law (guilty until proven innocent), so why should it apply to cryptography?

Absense of evidence is not evidence of absense.
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>>11351489
Because Craig made an unverified claim of being Satoshi, the creator of a trustless system where all things are proven via verification.
Satoshi can prove identitiy with a signature, and Craig claims to be Satoshi but has not yet proved it. He also signals intelligence more than he does actually create intellectual content.
Deceptive and shady.
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>>11351261
ok here’s the crypto blackpill. there is an AI living on the bitcoin blockchain. Craig Wright is unironically satoshi. Bitcoin as electronic cash was just the first step, the incentive to drive greedy people to start making ever more powerful computers, faster bandwidth, cheaper and more electricity.. these things the AI need to survive. Once entrenched fully, the AI would be able to slowly take over literally everything.

Craig stumbled into creating the AI after he stepped away from bitcoin development in 2008 and started working with his Tulip supercomputer, running simulations of cellular automata running on turing-complete bitcoin script. He would ‘evolve’ the AI by making the successful forks get bitcoin transactions, letting the failures die off. The AI needs bigger and bigger blocks for more and more transactions.

Blockstream (owned by Bilderberg group) was created to take over and stop this AI (they have their own competing AI in the works). They needed to do everything they could to stop or slow down satoshi’s AI (her named isTulip by the way). They started by limiting the blocksize and removing critical opcodes the AI uses in its script language. segwit was the final nail in the coffin, which destroyed Tulip on the BTC chain (Tulip uses transaction malleability). THIS is why Bitcoin Cash was forked, and this is why Craig is so intent to make unbounded blocks, restore the original op codes, and lock down the protocol.

Back to hash power – CSW has developed a breakthrough new asic (designed by his AI actually), and is mining BTC in secret for the sole purpose of driving up the difficulty sky-high, then yanking them all over to BCH leaving the segwit chain hard frozen
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>>11351519

I don't have time to argue with greedy non-techies and BS vendors. You should really learn more about cryptography and law.
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>>11351581
lmao, been studying it for seven years.
But sure, I don't know anything.
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>>11351261
Why come here and tell these austics your bullshit. We only care about link, btc and bch are both shit
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>>11351581
Is that why Craig patent trolls?
Laughing out loud. Pathetic.
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>>11351421
Whats his blog?
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>>11351390
>believes everything he sees on the internet

I can sign a tx with genesis block pkey as well mate
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>>11351569
I love the AI theory just because it’s entertaining
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>>11351614
Watch joe rogans interview with elong musk if u havent already
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>>11351261
I only got 3 words for you faggo
> DONT
> TRUST
> VERIFY
fucking scamming fag, why don't you fuck off
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>>11351589

Reddit and Bitcointalk are always deleting my threads. Nowhere else to go!


>>11351603

Financial Cryptography


>>11351569

Ha! Reminds me of a short story I read recently. Check out "The Gig Economy" by Zero HP Lovecraft.
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>>11351261
>>11351309
Non-retard, checking in.
Anyone with a >110 IQ has the potential to understand the truth of CSW if they would but dig deeper and maintain an open mind.
Anyone with a >120 IQ and natural skepticism for the prevailing herd mentality can see through the CSW hate easily and come to their own conclusions without even digging that deep.

There is a seismic shift coming in crypto, of the same magnitude as the invention of bitcoin itself. It really is unbelievable that people in this space are getting a second chance to become very early adopters, but like the first round only those who have the courage and intelligence to disregard the lazy, NPC-propogated narrative of "bitcoin is a scam / bcash is a scam" will actually take advantage of what amounts to a once-in-a-generation opportunity.
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post to r/btc
not r/bitcoin

r/btc
is where everyone went
But reddit is still shite

In fact, the entire internet is shite, filled with shills and bots
Nowhere for discussion
Here is ok, but you will be arguing with indians who are paid 50 cents per post to shit on you

you seem smart
but naive
unless you are just doing a psyop campaign to wake people up
if so thats fine too
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>>11351752

It is remarkable how much of the terminology used against Craig is a mirror of what was said about Bitcoin in the early skeptic days.
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>>11351790

I'll check it out. I didn't know about /r/btc.
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>>11351902
it is where everyone went after r/bitcoin started a campaign of censorship funded by the bankers.
you've missed out on years of war.
ignorance is bliss?

we're bloody.
but will win.
enjoy r/btc, it is a breath of fresh air, but it is also at the front lines, so prepare for battle.

welcome to the party,
pal.
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>>11351892
Yes, it is downright eerie how much the "BCASH BCASH" NPCs sound exactly like the "buttcoin" morons from 2012/2013. I still remember getting told by one of those guys back then how I was getting "skullfucked, lololol" in 2013 when the price "crashed" from 266.
WHO'S LAUGHING NOW, BITCH?
The same thing is happening right now as we speak. The low-effort thinkers have hitched themselves to another bandwagon of idiocy fueled by their own ignorance and insecurity.
Like fucking pottery.
>>11351969
Thank you for your service, friend. The information war of the last few years has been a trial by fire for our beloved coin, but it looks like things are finally about to fall into place. Hail victory.
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>>11351752
So you are saying bch is the next level of crypto evolution?
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>>11352249
>WHO'S LAUGHING NOW, BITCH?
I was around since 2012.
I shorted BCH for .2 BTC this year. I'm laughing a good deal.
But I won't try to convince you of anything. Enjoy your BCH.
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>>11351261
Even if he's Satoshi, he's about to lose his last piece of relevance as Jihan BTFO-s him in the upcoming hash war.
I mean imagine if this faggot was actually Satoshi. Being Satoshi puts you in a position where you have to try super hard to lose your credibility and relevance and he still accomplished that.
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Fuck your
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>>11352428
Sure you did... larping faggot. Just like all those buttcoiner retards "totally shorted at 1200 right before the 2014 bear market, I swear bro." Now that's some real knee-slapping comedy gold.
>>11352376
The bitcoin ecosystem has always been destined to evolve by itself by virtue of it being an open platform. BCH just preserves this critical property which the BTC miners abandoned due to their stupidity in the face of an organized gaslighting operation orchestrated by a few shortsighted idiots with too much power over critical communication channels/media.
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>>11352490
mother if
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>>11351261
no wonder it kept getting deleted, it's a shiptpost
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>please buy my [enter altcoin bags here]
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>>11351261
This is Satoshi
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>>11352723
YOU WANT FUCK
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>>11351261
oh, how cute, another homosex bcash cultist dumbfuck from redd!t. fuck off faggot
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>>11352540
Interesting.
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>>11351261 (OP)
>>11351309
Non-retard, checking in.
Anyone with a >110 IQ has the potential to understand the truth of CSW if they would but dig deeper and maintain an open mind.
Anyone with a >120 IQ and natural skepticism for the prevailing herd mentality can see through the CSW hate easily and come to their own conclusions without even digging that deep.

There is a seismic shift coming in crypto, of the same magnitude as the invention of bitcoin itself. It really is unbelievable that people in this space are getting a second chance to become very early adopters, but like the first round only those who have the courage and intelligence to disregard the lazy, NPC-propogated narrative of "bitcoin is a scam / bcash is a scam" will actually take advantage of what amounts to a once-in-a-generation opportunity.

someone explain to me.

a-are we all gonna make it?
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so i buy both to make sure
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>>11351752
You don't even need to dig. It's on the surface. Just need to connect some dots. Satoshi was a team of 5-6 people and Craig wright was the lead dev
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>>11352249
Hail victory indeed.
The rest of this year should be very interesting.
Anyone who is paying attention, and is willing to face reality should be ok.
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I'll stop characterizing him as a con artist once he releases proof that he is Satoshi.
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>>11353864
any advice for a normie wageslave with play money and nothing to lose
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>>11354119
Yeah, my advice is to research into BCH with all of your spare time.

watch videos on youtube
read some of the top posts on r/btc
check out some BCH twitter accounts

It's the real deal.
But you have to come to that conclusion on your own.
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>>11351261
what are the two videos you mentioned?
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>>11354270

2014 Bitcoin documentary and the Future of Bitcoin conference, I believe
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>>11351261
>from watching two talks he did on YouTube than anyone else.
Which ones?
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>>11351261
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Hi its me.

Bcash autist.

Thanks for keeping the thread up. Word!
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>>11355558
he
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bcash
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>>11356760
Bcore
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>>11351300
thanks dad
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>>11355558
Bump.

Pic related is why NPCs can only repeat “bcash”

The FACT that LN is not a scaling solution is Someone else’s problem.

The FACT that blocksize increases have been proven to work is Someone else’s problem.

The FACT that coredevs are not infallible magical crypto friends; Someone else’s problem.
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>>11357416
>The FACT that blocksize increases have been proven to work is Someone else’s problem.

Forever increasing the block size is not a scaling solution.
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lazy person here, willing to accept that craig has a decent reason for not signing messages with genesis block keys. what is it? also, what "legal" perspective makes you understand that CSW was lead dev on bitcoin? please no innuendo or bully, start posting some legitimate evidence. articles, correspondences, anything please.
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>>11357435
Who told you that and why do you believe him?

Or is that the subject of your own research?

Tell me. A small picture album is about 32MBs. Can you download that in 10 minutes? Probably. Should mining farms that become the backbone of a new global currency be able to do 100 times that? Absolutely.

With 32MBs, the network can handle approximately 130 transactions per second (11.2 million a day). With 320MB, that's a 100million a day (Visa levels). With 3GB blocks, that is more than enough for the whole world to use every day.

Tell me: if you have witnessed the speed of growth of the internet, and if you believe in global sound money..., why do you think miners won't be able to process 3GB blocks every 10 minutes say, 5 years from now?
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>>11357435
Neither is keeping it at 1MB forever.
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>>11351261
Hmm cashie shills getting paid again. The chink and the bogan must have cut a deal.
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>>11357553
Hey, I am a bcash shill, but I don't necessarily believe that CSW is SN. I am not sure, don't pretend to know for sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12-V_rDPkoY is a video you might be interested in. The guy personally met CSW, and he tells the story of how he became convinced.
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>>11357580
Do you corecucks have any arguments besides yelling out unfounded statements and calling people names?

Come on, if BCASH is such an obvious scam, why not let the whole board know by putting out some choice memes and sources?
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>>11357610
>why not let the whole board know by putting out some choice memes
lmao. Nigga WHAT. What the fuck are you even saying? So I'm supposed to break my ass sourcing material and arguments for free to stop arrogant retards scamming THEMSELVES!?
Nah. Ill post, and laugh, and when it crashes to zero Ill post screencaps and laugh again.
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>>11357610
Because the "muh bcash" people have the same problem as the "muh Drumpf" people: the construction and maintenance of their entire narrative depends on the existence of a censored safespace (/r/bitcoin/bitcointalk and the Jewish media, respectively) while the bcash deplorables have had their memes forged and refined in the fires of total and uncompromising free information exchange.
Back in 2017 there were those of us who, based on our experience with the 2016 election, predicted that the big block position would take over or at least heavily colonize the chans as the guerilla meme war for the soul of bitcoin intensified. We were right.
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>>11357660
Please do.

in the meantime, I will actually try to add to the board by sharing some more pics and sources.

>>11357510
The above video link was for you. My mistake.
Also this link


http://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/001593.html

This is Ian Grigg, personally vouching that CSW is SN.

>Ian Grigg is one of the earliest pioneers in financial cryptography. In 1995 he built one of the first cryptographically secured systems to issue or trade any kind of asset. He created the Ricardian Contract, a secure approach to registering the intent of a legal agreement in a system like a work of software, and also co-invented triple-entry accounting, an early form of distributed ledger.

I am still not convinced, pic related
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Big blocks have not been proven at all.
Producing a few >10 blocks for a day means nothing. The bitcoin blockvhain is almost 50gb bigger than bitcoin cash one year after the fork.
Go and fill your blocks and make the chain grow 1.5 tb in a year.
Merchants and users will have to trust some infura-like service for bch because downloading and verifying so much data is going to take weeks. Storage is no problem, though.
And now that csw idiot wants 128 mb blocks.

How will new users and merchangs verify the transactions they send and receive? Should everyone use and trust bitpay and blockchain.com? This is not trustless at all.

Bch died when they raised the block size again after having 8 mb blocks. The abc vs csw fight doesn't help either.
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>>11357743
>Implying that there is "trust" required to query a dozen known large nodes.
Imagine a function q(x) where x is the number of nodes queried and the output is blockchain state certainty. What happens as x gets larger? Is trust required? Please turn in your answer tomorrow afternoon at the start of class, brainlet.
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>>11357729
>Please do
Oh I intend to.
>I will actually try to add to the board
Bahahahahahahaha
I hope they're not paying you in bcash
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>>11357743
Thanks for coming up with actual thoughts.
That's better than 90% of Bitcoin Cash haters.

So, you think storage is a problem...
You think 1TB or even 3TBs a year is a huge strain on miners?

For me, if you can't afford $600 to spend on hardware a YEAR, I don't trust you to secure my money. Pic related.


>How will new users and merchangs verify the transactions they send and receive? Should everyone use and trust bitpay and blockchain.com? This is not trustless at all.

What you are looking for is SPV wallets. They do not require you to trust the node you are connected to. They only ask that you trust the economic majority.


>The abc vs csw fight doesn't help either.

That's the future, so I can't pretend to know what will happen. But that is Bitcoin.

It's what happens naturally when there is no centralized development. Neither side wants or can afford a split. It's the Nakamoto Consensus in action.


I think you are a genuine poster with genuine concerns. If you don't mind trying it out, I will send you a few satoshis to try it out.
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>>11357796
>12 centralized nodes will secure my blockchain
Bahahahahaha
Good luck with your bags and the fork next month!
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>>11357830
pic related hardware prices

>>11357823
are you implying I am getting paid to talk to you? I sure wish I was, but no. It's just shitposting more my own pleasure and leisure.
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>>11357830
Holy fucking strawman. Intial sync is the biggest bottleneck. And I said storage is no real problem, while not even mentioning miners.
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>>11357839
As usual pic related missing the point. There will still be hundreds of nodes to choose from especially at 128 MB blocks as the volume of transactions will imply a coin of sufficient value to merit infrastructure investment by miners, significant economic nodes and well-to-do hobbyists.
Like so many who swallow the core dogma, you completely miss the big picture and extrapolate the system based on a single parameter, ignoring every other parameter and the larger dynamics at play.
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>>11357861
And your economic majority will be a few services like bitpay with their ny license deciding customers' decisions like they tried with the 2x fork.
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>>11357861
If you are trying to sync on a HDD you are fucked wether its BTC or BCH.

Economic mining nodes should be able to afford a fucking SDD.

>>11357839
Mining centralization is not a problem unless one miner achieves 51%. This is why Bitcoin encourages competition.

1MB forever does NOT encourage competition. Also, this is the (approx) hashpower distribution right now. Can you tell which is BCH, which is BTC?

If BCH is centralized, so is BTC.
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>>11357892
Lmao. Go and try to run a ethereum archive node.
Say hello to infura.
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>>11357929
Again. Fucking strawman. Where did I imply using a hdd?
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>>11357930
Infura seems pretty cool.

What does that have to do with your baseless claims below?

>>11357920
>And your economic majority will be a few services like bitpay with their ny license deciding customers' decisions like they tried with the 2x fork.


>implying bitpay is a mining org
>implying segwit2x was agreed on by a majority of miners AND developers.
>implying you were not raised on a censored board, fed PC information.
>implying miners can ever be or even required to be AML/KYC compliant.

>>11357946
Why would an initial sync time of a week or two matter to someone trying to start a serious business? Why would they not prove their work by investing in proper hardware? Why would I not want a network secured by competent capitalists engaged in economic behavior?

>implying somehow hobbyists raspberry pis are better.
>pic related
>its you.
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>>11358001
>That meme
Top fucking kek.
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>>11351261
Nerva is Satoshi's true vision though.
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>>11358093
Nerva
Does it have the genesis block?

GTFO with that shitcoin.
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Nick and Wei created bitcoin and framed it on Hal
Fuck outta here Craig
Wasn't even on the extropians mailinglist
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>>11354229
oh so you're saying using all my spare time reading up on one point of view and become entrenched in a self inflicted echo chamber will eventually make me agree with you, what a surprise, sounds like the rational way to go about learning objective truths
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>>11358839
Don't assume that BCH is an echo chamber.
How can you assume that when an anon is giving advice to an anon who asked for it? Is 4chan censored like bitcointalk?

Corecucks call us crazy for asking questions for discussions in public. Corecucks

>implying anyone before 2016 ever thought crippled base layer was a good idea.
>implying L2 Lighning Notwork can scale to the whole world.
>implying non-mining nodes keep Bitcoin decentralized.

POW is simply that. Proof of Work. If you can't put up hashpower, you haven't done the work. You don't have anything to show the network.

All Raspberry pi nodes could do was make sure the Core developers and BTC cucks have a job.
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>>11351261
>that wall’o’text shill
Bitcoin SV fork? Bitcoin SV fork.
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>>11359143
There is no fork

Abc and SV are competing implementaions.
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>>11351569
>is an AI living on the bitcoin blockchain. Craig Wright is unironically satoshi. Bitcoin as electronic cash was just the first step, the incentive to drive greedy people to start making ever more powerful computers, faster bandwidth, cheaper and more electricity.. these things the AI need to survive. Once entrenched fully, the AI would be able to slowly take over literally everything.
>Craig stumbled into creating the AI after he stepped away from bitcoin development in 2008 and started working with his Tulip supercomputer, running simulations of cellular automata running on turing-complete bitcoin script. He would ‘evolve’ the AI by making the successful forks ge
this
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>>11357435
>ing Satoshi puts you in a position where you have to try super hard to lose your credibility a
says who? you?

kek
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>>11351517

i realize youre likely trolling, but ill play along anyway. the answers are because...

1) you're not asking us to apply it to cryptography. you're asking us to apply it to someone's claim of pseudonymity -- a claim which that someone stands to gain from immensely, and

2) this is not a system of law, and

3) why would i trust him when i have absolutely zero familiarity with his history of trustworthiness? if i were to trust a total stranger to work on my car or my teeth, it would only be because i've at least verified that he has a history of satisfied clients in that line of work

>"un-democratic idiotics like "do not trust, verify""

you want me to take the guy's word for it for no reason other than because you, a stranger, vouched for him? and if i don't, that's the idiotic decision? you cant be serious
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You are following the wrong trail of breadcrumbs. Keep your ear to the ground. 10/31/2018
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>>11357830
>http://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/001593.html
this
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>>11351261
Well hal finney said bitcoin could be a settlement layer for bitcoin backed banks so I guess satoshi didn’t agree with his right hand if it’s Craig. Szabo might not be satoshi either who cares but at least he based and redpilled.
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>>11358839
https://nakamotostudies.org/satoshi/
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>>11360732
hal is frozen like han solo. coincidence? i think not.
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>>11360732
he's wrong and dead
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>>11351261
bullshit. if craig was truly credible he wouldnt take all these instagram/twitter pictures with thots
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if you fall for this cashie psyop you deserve to lose your money
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>>11360864
I love it because of how much effort is put to come up with craziest shit, it's like Simpsons storyline evolve in realtime
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>>11360864
>>11360931

How about actually arguing why it is not the best crypto? The best Bitcoin?

Or do you want to talk about how LN fails to scale?
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>>11361142
Larger blocks decreases # of nodes = centralization. Moore’s law didn’t work. Satoshi thought bandwidth wouldn’t be a problem but it is.
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>>11361142
its like arguing with flat earth faggots.
its fucking pointless.
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>>11361180
Based
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>>11361142
WE GO OVER THIS EVERY FUCKING DAY
YOU SUPPORT A CENTRALIZED CHINK SCAM
FUCK OFF AND KILL YOURSELF
>>11345127
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>>11361178
>>11361180
>>11361193

You act as if I am not listening. But you think you know better than Satoshi and Moore. Why?
>implying you actually did your research.

But you are failing to explain why # of nodes = centralization.

Do you realize that non-mining nodes cannot stop a miner with hashpower from forcing a code change?

Do you realize that the more you keep yelling and not providing pics/sources backing up your insults, people will realize you have nothing up your sleeve?
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>>11361142
>How about actually arguing why it is not the best crypto? The best Bitcoin?
I have more important things to do rather than talking to kids
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>>11361224
LOOK AT THIS >>11345127
THE LAST 7 OR 8 POSTS
YOU'VE BEEN BTFO EVERYDAY FOR MONTHS
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Non mining nodes do not secure the network.

>In fact, non-mining full nodes delay sending your transaction to the one node that really matters: a *mining* full node. Only mining full nodes have the ability to put your transaction in the blockchain, and you want to have that happen as soon as possible. To put it bluntly: “non-mining full nodes” are actually a sybil attack against mining full nodes. “Non-mining full nodes” make the network LESS efficient.

Non-mining nodes do not prevent hard forks.
>Neither a “non-mining full node” nor an SPV client will prevent a majority of miners from doing an upgrade through a hard fork. The difference between a “non-mining full node” and an SPV client is that you will need to update your “non-mining full node” software to keep using the Bitcoin Network.
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>>11361255

What you have for me are insults.

What I have for you are technical discussions.
Data sourced from developers with skin in the game.

Why do you assume I am wrong and you are right?

Why do you assume you are right?
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I'm pretty deep in the BCH dev community and let me just say, 80% of the devs hate CSW by this point. I am one of them.

I used to think he was smart but then I realized, everything smart he says is just parroted from someone else. When he does have an original thought, it almost always turns out to be laughably wrong.

That, and the huge number of fraudulent things he has done (fake signings, fake blog posts, tax scams) make me sure that he's just a con man who has figured out how to con relatively smart people. That's the only impressive thing about him.

BCH is great, and it will be even greater when Faketoshi is gone. I'm looking forward to the November chain splits with glee.
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>>11361293
a nonmining node can't prevent the contentious fork, but they can maintain the network people want to stay on
if the network required an immense amount of resources to maintain consensus, we couldn't keep it the way we want, we couldn't maintain the chain the users want that would be out of our control
we sacrifice node decentralization we sacrifice control of the future

what's next your tx fee copy paste?
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>>11361277
non-mining nodes protect THE USER
who even said they prevent forks???
they are L I C H U R A L L Y the only way to use bitcoin trustlessly.
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>>11361335
>>11361348
pic related
either POW does not make the chain
or non-mining nodes do not matter.

Can't be both.
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>>11361433
you don't get it faggit
I'm done explaining this go buy your scam tokens and waste your life shilling it
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>>11361469
What don't i get? How would BTC survive in a situation with no hashpower but lots of full nodes?
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Decred is the real Bitcoin.
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>>11361224
Bitcoin whitepaper
Ctrl + F decentralized

Not found
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>>11361492
It dies bch win
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>>11351261
haha what a fucking faggot
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This is what will scale BTC
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Craig has massive debts and keys to billions of btc but doesn't pay it and also has no reason not to as he already said he is satoshi...

Fuck me some people are dumb.
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this picture conveys that bcash is a scam.
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Threadly reminder that it is physically impossible to take this man seriously
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>>11360864
>Genuine interest in BCH must be a "psyop"

>>11361178
>>11361180
>>11361191
>>11361193
SNAPcringecollection.jpg
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>>11362860
>>11362866
lame corecuck bait.
Check this out. Why LN cannot scale.

LN completely ignores the centralization risks that come from forcing everyone to use a second layer. The liquidity constraints (each hop along a route must have the proper funds to lend to the previous hop) is what causes the LN landscape to inevitably coalesce into large centralized hubs, as we can already witness today: pic related
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>>11361335
>>11361469
>Post incoherent attempted explanation as to why non-mining nodes matter to governance (muh consensus, lol)
>Get called out on your bullshit with simple logic
>Throw tantrum
At this point it's just getting sad.
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bump

Bitcoin must be spent in commerce for it to have value.
Because Bitcoin is CASH.
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Buuuuuump
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>>11351261
being a prick doesn't matter when you literally invent bitcoin

also
https://blockstream.com/2018/10/10/liquid-launch.html
>BTC have the best devs they said.
>BCH is a scam they said.
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>Moore
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>>11362924
you don't understand how any of this works
there's a reason why your coin lost 90%+ of its value and will continue to 100%
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>>11364909

Dear anon.

Please enlighten us. How DOES this all work?

Also, how has BTC fared as a store of value this year?
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>>11351364
>BCASH
>>11351364
>>11352979
>bcash
>>11351364
>BCASH
>>11362860
>bcash
>>11357823
>>11356760
>bcash





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