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Gokou Ruri/Kuroneko thread #42

old thread >>2953547
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What kind of movies do you think ruri would like?
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Supernatural action, dark fantasy, scifi, maybe horror, but mostly anime movies I'd guess
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Am I getting crazy deja vu or have I seen these somewhere before
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ashi monde choudai
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I'm sure I had the full version of this but now I can't find it anywhere
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i love ruri
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How many black cats do I have to sacrifice on Halloween night in order to make Kuroneko real?
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I think she would prefer that you didn't sacrifice any
Does she even have any interaction with cats besides that one licking her foot in the LN?
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That's her family cat Night that sleeps on her desk, although I guess that is the only scene where we really see them interact as far as I remember. I wonder if he inspired her handle name
it's real? it never moved so I assumed it was a statue
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Here's the full version.
is this a poster or ....
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Aniplex's Formal Dress Character Art Display
So yes, it's either a portrait, a poster, or a life size standee.
this isn't fair how do I get one
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Should I get it? only 12 shekels
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It's a bit crass
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Thanks senpai
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I can't help that I have the hots for ruri. If that is a crime then lock me up senpai. Besides she is just as shameless.
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If you don't take her words completely out of context you'd see that she's actually a rather oversensitive prude
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Have you even read the LN?
>"This, this is definitely impossible… What, what what what a shameless male!"
The foot worship is obviously just a power thing to her, she gets super embarrassed and indignant when Kyousuke makes it sexual, just like she does every other time that happens
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>breathing erotically
That's his interpretation, but either way apart from her weird foot rituals she always reacts with scorn to anything overtly sexual, she doesn't like wearing revealing clothes and holding hands was too much for her to handle
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>but that's just, like, your opinion, man
Funny I recall her running off to shower while in the middle of her favorite TV show with senpai. I wonder why she was so nervous.
She's a teenager with an overactive imagination, not a child. The fact she got so nervous in that situation only proves how oversensitive she is
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and your handwave for this Dr. Freud?
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She's demonstrating her support of the sibling's relationship to Ayase. Again when Kyousuke presses her about it she gets super embarrassed and defensive (>>2999520) just like every other example you've given. Looking at the wider situation isn't handwaving, you're cherry picking stuff out of context

>beat him with a chair to stop him seeing her siscali avatar naked
>"K-Know your place, you idiot… w-w-why do you think someone like me… would lower myself to such… to such shameless human customs…?"
>"I absolutely refuse. That’s not going to happen."
>made him kneel during her confession
>"Of course… I won't allow you to… Touch my breasts… Don't be mistaken."
>almost fainted from holding hands
>started crying when he saw her in a bikini

She's a prude, albeit with a weird thing for foot play
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I'm cherry picking nothing, she's just as lewd but only gets defensive when someone calls her out on it.

>the foot worship is obviously just a power thing to her
>with a weird thing for foot play
Which is it, a fetish or a power trip?

>kyousuke's interpretation, the only interpretation we have, isn't reliable
>my interpretation as a viewer is reliable

>she's demonstrating her support of the sibling's relationship to Ayase
Yes. by jumping straight into the incest deep end. something nobody in the conversation even suggested. Let's not forget kunka kunka btw.

Also pic related
>Draw an illustration of senpai (somehow make him take off his clothes)
>when someone calls her out
Except for the numerous occasions she gets embarrassed on her own eg. >>2999191 and >>2999518

I said it was a "weird thing". Realistically it's probably a bit of both but the fact she was so offended when Kyousuke made it sexual proves that she doesn't consider it sexual at least consciously

>kyousuke's interpretation
Just because he thought it was erotic doesn't mean she did, he is often wrong and misinterprets stuff throughout the novel, but also it's kind of irrelevant because of the above

>incest deep end
It's pretty well established how she sees the sibling's relationship so it's not surprising that she'd use that as hyperbole to prove a point. In the novel she's already gone "red to her ears" there

As I said she's a teenager with a wild imagination dealing with romantic relationships. Of course sex is gonna come up or cross her mind but almost every single time she reacts by getting embarrassed and offended, which means she's not shameless and she is a prude by definition. It's practically a running gag throughout the series
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>>2999191 is because she is in a public setting, >>2999518 is because of Kyousuke's reaction; neither of those qualify as "on her own"

>Kyousuke made it sexual
Except he didn't. She only objected when he asked to lick her thighs instead. >>2999317 Up till then, she was only sad that he kept implying her feet were dirty. If it's a power trip thing then why wouldn't she just leash him or order him to do other stuff besides kneel that one time? The foot things' reoccurrence suggests it's specific.

>just because he thought it was erotic doesn't mean she did
he said her breathing was erotic because it was erotic breathing. Are you implying she was huffing out of breath or something? What about later when she does the role reversal and does it to Ayase instead? Kyousuke doesn't get those kinds of details wrong anyway.

>which means she's not shameless
She considers Kyousuke as shameless simply for having lewd thoughts even if he doesn't voice them. >>2999518 your own post is an example of this. If Kyousuke is shameless for having lewd thoughts, then she is shameless for having them as well. She probably even mentally chastises herself for having such shameless thoughts when she realizes how lewd they are. Case in point: every anime girl that ever goes around calling people shameless typically winds up calling themself shameless during some inner monologue after having lewd thoughts. Yui Kotogawa comes to mind specifically but it's common. We just don't get a kuroneko monologue and while I have yet to read the manga I'm betting there isn't one in there either.
In both of those situations she realises that her words could be interpreted sexually and gets embarrassed without being "called out". Kyousuke hadn't reacted at all in the latter one

>he didn't
He made it sexual precisely when he asked to lick her thighs, which is the point she got embarrassed, so obviously she doesn't consider foot play to be so explicitly sexual, even if there is more to it than just power play

People can breath heavily for all kinds of reasons, when they're excited, nervous, scared, but again I'm saying it's irrelevant because of the above- even if there was an erotic element that's not how she would have thought of it

>She considers Kyousuke as shameless simply for having lewd thoughts even if he doesn't voice them
Sounds like something an oversensitive prude would do
>If Kyousuke is shameless for having lewd thoughts
I never said he was, saying she's oversensitive kind of implies that her reactions aren't entirely reasonable. Although the difference between him and her is that he doesn't immediately flush and protest every time it happens, because he's not such an oversensitive prude
>She probably even mentally chastises herself
You mean as if she were ashamed? That doesn't sound very shameless
She gets a bit of monologue but nothing to that effect. During the aforementioned shower scene she panics when she realises that he might get the wrong idea
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So let me get this straight, your entire fucking defense is built upon "O-oh she doesn't consider it sexual!" but then you pivot and go "I never said Kyousuke was shameless for having lewd thoughts!" despite agreeing 1 line prior that she thinks of him as shameless for the exact same thing.

You can't have it both ways. If you're going to sperg and go "it's about her interpretation and nothing else matters" then you cannot inject your own interpretation as to whether Kyousuke is shameless. Following your own defense, if she thinks Kyousuke is shameless simply for having thoughts then she herself is shameless for having them as well. That's exactly what she thinks and she qualifies for her own label under her own definition.

>>She probably even mentally chastises herself
>You mean as if she were ashamed? >That doesn't sound very shameless
That doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how we perceive it, it only matters what she thinks of it. As you so clearly have demonstrated.
My argument was basically that
1. She's not shameless in an objective sense because she's clearly ashamed of things she considers sexual, for example when she spots innuendo in her language and gets embarrassed
2. She's a prude in an objective sense because she's easily shocked by things she considers sexual, for example when Kyousuke says things she interprets sexually

Therefore my argument was primarily based on an objective definition of shameless and her subjective definition of what is sexual, that doesn't invalidate my argument. I'm assuming shamelessness to entail a concious rejection of values in the sense of "I know this is wrong but I don't care" and that we're talking specifically in a sexual context

Although even going by her own definition, she visibly reacts with shame to her own thoughts, but in that situation she thought that he didn't react to his, which is what makes him shameless in her mind. It's ridiculous but it still kind of checks out. As I said though I don't think she's particularly reasonable or consistent on that
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And also Ruri is cute
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>1. She's not shameless in an objective sense because she's clearly ashamed of things she considers sexual, for example when she spots innuendo in her language and gets embarrassed
The objective sense doesn't matter since your statements are all about her subjective view. You've handwaved any point I've made by going "muh subjectivity" so you cannot default back to objectivity once I start using your own stick against you, especially since my points were objective.
She was objectively breathing erotically. Kyousuke does not note Kirino as sad when she's actually angry or Manami's Grandpa as breathing when he's playing dead and holding his breath. The line says erotically because that's exactly the way it was. Similarly, >>3000443
>Draw an illustration of senpai (somehow make him take off his clothes)
is what is objectively written by her own hand.
Furthermore, she actively supports the incestuous relationship and even vaguely suggests she would be fine with a threesome of sorts. This in and of itself qualifies for shameless since she shamelessly supports it and the public at large would consider them shameful. Or does that not count because it's the publics' interpretation? Riddle me this, are her lines about masturbation material (or any other Freudian slip) shameful because she inherently thinks of them as such or because the public would view them as such? Does she still think of her lewd thoughts as shameful if she's alone in the comfort of her own home with no one around to hear them? The truth is it doesn't matter.
1. If she doesn't view lewd thoughts in the privacy of her own home as shameful, then she's merely masquerading as prude due to the public and your defense of her being one falls through. Lewd thoughts are lewd thoughts and she does have sexual ones, so in that way your defense of "her interpretation" of what is sexual goes out the window too, since those would be included, the sexual ones would always be sexual, yet she has a different reaction in public vs. private. Meaning she is objectively shameless about having them; if you get to dip back into objectivity then so do I but your defense falls through none the less.
2. If she does view lewd thoughts in the privacy of her own home as shameful, then she views the thoughts themselves as shameful and regardless of whether she feels shameful or not for having them, she would consider herself shameless for having shameful thoughts. i.e. You are correct on her being a prude but by her own interpretation she would consider herself shameless.

>2. She's a prude in an objective sense because she's easily shocked by things she considers sexual, for example when Kyousuke says things she interprets sexually
This is irrelevant because of above. If you're going to defend based on her interpretation and consider anyone else's null and void then you cannot inject your own interpretation nor objectivity into it as it invalidates your own defense. Further, a classical prude would not support incest and in general one would not have lewd thoughts at all.

>I'm assuming shamelessness to entail a conscious rejection of values in the sense of "I know this is wrong but I don't care"
And what is incest? What is a threesome? She herself would even consider lewdness in general to be wrong. That's her interpretation after all.

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