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Previous thread: >>10012584

Ask all your lolita and other jfash questions here. For any cosplay questions, your best bet is the cosplay help thread.
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I'll start: does anyone know where the "watch" button on LM went? It suddenly disappeared for me, and it's just... not there. For some reason, my watchlist still exists.
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>>10025719
it's still there for me, on desktop using multiple browsers. Did you accidentally adblock it or something? Try opening it in a different browser or incognito mode and see what happens.
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I am a US shoe size 7, would getting a US size 8 be too big? The shoes I desperately want are only available in a size 8. Halp.
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>>10025783
Is it a flat or high heel?
Idk how true it is but growing up I always heard it was better to size up on a heel.
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>>10025783
probably, but you can always add an insert and that might help.
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>>10025797
They are sneakers.
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>>10025805
Yeah for sneakers sizing up is fine because you can control how tight it is
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>>10025804
>>10025807
Thanks! I appreciate the help.
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Anyone know what the deal is with ordering from Innocent World? I placed an order over a week ago and haven’t heard back except for the confirmation email.
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any tips or things i should be aware of for ironing jacquard?

really want to straighten out the creases from shipping on a jacquard AP jsk i just got in the mail
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>>10025719
A few days ago I asked about shipping clothes/items from Japan to America in /fa/ and about if the website doesn't shit internationally etc, and one of you said something about Japonica and I'm quite interested but I don't know much about it and kinda need a link. If the anon who suggested me this is still here pls help and if anyone else have other good sites for this kinda stuff lmk (im also kinda interested in zenmarket if any of u know more about that aswell)

/fa/ told me to post here so pls help ty
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I'm making a cosplay of a lolita character and I thought about adding a real lolita touch by wearing brand OTKs.

So, I'm wondering where I could find some pastel blue brand OTKs and if they are very expensive.

Pic related, that's my character!
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I have big bobs and don't think getting into lolita is a good idea. Am I correct to assume this? I am a 30F-24-36.
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>>10025859
Buy a steamer
But if you're a poorfag or lazy you should iron all delecate clothing like this:
>take dress
>put on flat surface
Take white cotton (or other fabric that DOES NOT MELT) bedsheet/fabric
>make bedsheet slightly damp
>place bedsheet on top of dress
>iron dress through the protective safeguard of dampish cotton
I would rather die than risk putting hot iron on my dresses.
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>>10025885
>if the website doesn't shit internationally
My sides, anon
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>>10025885
Japonica Market is really good in my experience. Gulls have said that they favor returning customers, I've been using them since 2014 and they've been perfect every time but I can't tell you if it's because I'm a returning customer or not. They're a personal shopping service so they can buy off websites that other shopping services can't.
ZenMarket is generally really good, really low fees (300 yen for every item you buy, no fees for the first item you order through them), hold onto your items for 45 days for free, and have a variety of shipping options. Only downside is that they're pretty slow, but they're my go-to ss for auctions etc.

>>10025893
Brands have released sax OTKs in the past, you'll likely have to look for a pair secondhand which can take a while, assuming you can find one at all. imo you're better off wearing off white or white socks instead, it'll be easier to find and easier to match, too.
BABY has a pair of knee socks in stock right now: https://babyssb.shop/category/select/cid/326/pid/9959
And Meta's OTKs are in stock too: https://www.metamorphose.gr.jp/product/detail/11712
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>>10025899
You are correct
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>>10025899
Nah. My measurements aren't toodifferent from what yours are and I fit in most pieces just fine. Your measurements seem to indicate someone that's skinny with big boobs and not just general plus size so things will probably be easier than you think.

You might have to be a bit more choosy than what someone of your size with smaller boobs would have to be but as long as you check the measurements thoroughly before buying anything you should be okay.

A sports bra or compression shirt might be helpful to create a more flattering shape for some pieces and keep in mind that some brands are more forgiving than others when it comes to the fit around the bust.

In my personal experience the hardest part of being a busty Lolita is finding nice quality blouses that fit both my bust and my waist but that isn't the worst thing.
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>>10025899
You're skinny, so no. My measurements are nearly the same and while I can fit in a lot of brand normally I usually wear a chest binder or a really strong minimizer / sports bra for a flatter silhouette more due to personal taste
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>>10025908
baby only has black with white lace available atm, so I doubt that'll work
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Re-posting from last thread
I bought some items from One Spo's sale a week ago using Fromjapan, and my order is still pending even though the sale has ended. I'm uncertain if they purchased the items during the sale period (some stuff was 30-70% off), should I expect an invoice for full price?
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>>10025968
White is in stock in the link I gave. Maybe look closer before you jump to conclusions.
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>>10025716
Where can I get some good quality lace tights with goth-ish patterns(roses, crosses etc.)? I wear tights daily, I'd prefer if they didn't rip after just putting them on, like the sheer normie ones do.
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is there anyway to wear a short sleeved blouse w puffy sleeves & a cardigan without it bunching up & looking ugly? probably not but i thought i would ask :/
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I would like to try lolita but I defenetly don't want to look like a degenerate fuck I'm 6' and around 210 punds should I give up or there is hope for me?
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Is there a Taobao replica of these shoes from IW, or something similar? Or rather I should ask if people have seen good looking wine heels. I've been needing a deeper red shoe for coords pretty bad but everything secondhand doesn't fit, or is awfully damaged, or is hideous. I don't really want to buy brand ones new as they just don't hold up for their price.

A pair of these shoes are taunting me on Mercari, being in the wrong size but such a good price...

Unless does anyone know if IW's heels run small? I have a pair of size M boots from them and it feels like they run a bit big.
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>>10026212
Have you checked LizJill on taobao?
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I’m trying to put together my first cord to wear out but i’m having some troubles mostly w the bottom half of the cord, i have a full set but i don’t really like how the OTKs look w the cord it clashes w too much print for my taste so i was looking for some insight as what else i could do TT
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>>10025885

Japonica
http://japonicamarket.com/smart-home.html

Zenmarket
www.zenmarket.jp/

Fromjapan
ttps://www.fromjapan.co.jp/en/

They all work differently, look through their websites and read carefully. Basically you give them a link, pay them $$$, they buy the items you specify and then ship it to you.
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>>10026292

If you're willing to post photos, Coord Help Thread >>10001529 will be able to help suggest things.

If you're doing conventional lolita (ie- not one of those OTT princess or one of those borderline softloli coords) then plain white lace-topped OTKs or UTKs would work. Match them to your blouse colour.

My fallback is usually lace tights (also matched to the blouse colour). They're easy to get off taobao for most colours, the lace gives enough texture so it doesn't look too cheap and boring.
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>>10026203

Look, imma be honest here. If you pretty much look like crap in normie fashion or any other fashion, then you’ll look like crap in lolita too.

6ft and fat can work in lolita. Muumuus and long underskirts are in, between that, full shirring, adjustable shoulder straps, custom taobao/indie, you can definitely find stuff that will fit you.

It’s just if you’re also ugly, lazy, ungroomed, poor/cheap, don’t have a clue how to look good, unwilling to learn, unwilling/unable to take the extra work/cost to find/alter things to fit, lolita isn’t going to solve any of that. So pretty much, if you can’t already look good outside of lolita, you’re not going to look any better in lolita either. At least learn to look somewhat presentable and decent in normie fashion before you try for lolita.

Hope that helped you somewhat.
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>>10025835
Sometimes it takes 2+ weeks, they are slow especially during sales but have always gotten back eventually for me.
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>>10026340
I’ve been thinking about it but i’m pretty nervous to self post so i’ll probably make a college or set everything i have in mind for it out & get a pic of that. The dress is dolly cat in the pink colorway i’m definitely not trying to do anything remotely OTT for my first cord I just want to be simple but look good/put together decently TT I have pic related coming in the mail do you think they would look okay over some white tights?
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Does anyone know how accurate the sizing on Ozz On's website is?
It seems remarkably generous for unshirred and normal sized looking clothing.
Picture is one of the items I'm looking at.
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>>10026367
>white tights
If you absolutely have to layer them on top of tights - Instead of solid white, try something like pic related, they're subtle but cute and they work with the dot tulle lace on your main piece.
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>>10026351
Man, that sucks. Has the item you ordered ever sold out during that time? That’s my main concern.
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>>10026404
Nayrt but yes, that's happened to me a few times. I'm actually waiting for confirmation myself, it's been nearly two weeks now and I suspect I'll get an email notifying me that my item has sold out, instead.
Hope for the best, anon. I hope you get your order!
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>>10026172
The best way to do this is to wear a blouse or cutsew with small-ish puff sleeves, and a bolero with wider sleeves on top. Not an easy task because neither is very common, but it's possible if you're careful about the items you pick.
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>>10026367

Due to the eye-catching pink ruffle on the top of the socks, they'll work better without white tights underneath.

Dolly Cat is pretty perfect for it (if you keep the rest of your coord white and pink as well), but make sure there isn't a huge gap between where the skirt ends and where the socks begin. Ideally you want just a little bit of skin showing (if you want to be sexy), or none at all.
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>>10026251
Oh wow, never heard of that Taobao shop, thanks anon! They don't have this exact shoe model but they definitedly have something that will work. Thanks again!

(If anyone knows if IW heels run small or not I'd still love to hear!)
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I think this is related (?)
Anyway, trying to curb my jfashion spending habits. I've been spending a lot of money on cute clothes and I can't stop lol

Any tips for online shopping addiction? I check brand pages all the time and I'm not sure if I really want to give up knowing what's being released.
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>>10026634
I'd suggest steering clear of any shopping sites and maybe just sticking to brands' twitter accounts to see their updates, unless that alone prompts you to buy things, in which case I don't know what else you can do other than completely avoiding updates on new releases.
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>>10026399
That is really cute thank you anon i’ll look around for a pair! Also a bit worried about cold weather though but hopefully the socks will keep me warm
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>>10026640
Do you wear bloomers? You should if you don't, they don't seem like much but it's an additional layer that can keep you warm.
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>>10026498
I would perfer for no skin to be showing especially since its pretty cold where i live now & i’m just more comfortable that way,, though the dress is a bit short on me since the cut i have isn’t the higher wasited one
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>>10026643
I have a pair but they are a bit big on me & peak out more than i would like them to i wish they were just a little bit shorter, know anywhere i can get a decent priced pair fast?
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>>10026645
If you're not in too much of a hurry you should look in the secondhand market, Meta's bloomers pop up for sale all the time there.
This pair for example is simple and very cute: https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w265480794
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>>10025797
Youre supposed to size down on a high heel, not up
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>>10026385
Ozz on is prett small. It fits better on small girls than small men
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>>10026385
Ozz On uses materials with quite a lot of stretch. They look best on small people, but will fit surprisingly large
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>>10026650
That looks really cute thank you anon for the help! do u have a discord or anything of the sort?
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>>10026703
I do have a discord but I'd rather stay anonymous, sorry. Glad to help though, I hope your coord turns out well!
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>>10026706
Its ok i understand thank you!!
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>order something from youvimi after hearing some good things about it
>turns out the item I want is out of stock after I placed an order for it
>they send me an email letting me know
>tell them I want a refund
>2-3days later
>no response
did I get scammed, gulls?
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>>10026644

I'd do skin-coloured tights if you totally need them, or the sheer ones another anon linked above. If you really need white tights, chose different printed socks that don't have the ruffle, that's what makes it weird to wear tights under the socks as it obviously marks where the socks end.

Seconding bloomers for keeping you warm, too.
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>>10026634
>>10026636

Kind of want to chime in on this advice. I'm not sure how original anon feels but when it comes to lolita I rarely buy brand new. So staying up to date with releases isnt too difficult for me. What really gets me is browsing second hand and seeing that one item I really want come up. A lot of them are older, rare, and you dont see them often. So it feels like that impending "now or never" type of purchase.

Anyways taking a break from browsing second hand really helped to curb my shopping. With newer releases they feel plentiful so it isnt as urgent that you purchase. Hope this helps
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I feel like this is relevant for this thread(??) Not sure where else to put this. Brand blouses fit my torso just fine, but fitted ones tend to be tight around my upper arms (I also have broader shoulders, which doesn't help my case.) Would low weight lifting do anything to help my case, or would putting on muscle make things worse? I typically only really do cardio to keep in shape, but I'm starting to feel sad when I buy cute blouses only for it to look atrocious when I put it on.
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>>10026913
>>10026636
Thank you for the replies! I think you're both right. I own some second hand brand myself, but as I like to make larger orders at a time, second hand orders end up being as expensive (if not more than) buying one or two items new. I think I'll just do my best to limit looking around Mercari for now
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>>10026772
Just got an email
>we can refund, but it will cost both of us costly fees!
You bitches put an item up you didn't even have, waited two days to tell me you didn't even have it and basically tricked me. I don't want your discounts, I don't want your $20 necklace. I want my money back, all of it. Jesus.
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>>10026999
Contact PayPal or your bank/institution that issued the card you paid with. Threaten them with a chargeback.
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>>10027020
Oh shit, of course. Thank you!
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>>10026661
>>10026667
Awesome, thanks for your help.
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i just got a pair of ap shoes secondhand that are in much worse condition than I thought
can i use paint to fix them ? if so which kind? I’m all down for paint mixing too
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What is the best shop to get nice quality, custom sized blouses from? I've only been happy with the quality of materials on a couple of the stores I've bought from.
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Is it possible to ship second hand items from Wunderwelt together with new items from Wunderwelt Fleur?
I tried finding information on their website but apparently I'm completely blind
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>>10027322
Yeah you can. It tells you in the cart that it’s fine. The only thing is some fleur reservation items cannot, and those say in the item itself.
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>>10027327
That's great, thank you so much!
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>>10027248
Angelus leather paints are good and very mixable
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>>10025893
Mai a cute. Brands have released pastel blue OTKs but it would be easier to find white, it's been years since a brand has released saxxwhite lace-topped socks and pastel blue striped socks are also no longer common. IIRC she wears white legwear most of the time in the anime so I'd suggest something like these:
https://angelicpretty-onlineshop.com/products/detail.php?product_id=19

(I'm linking the lace-topped knee-highs since the OTKs are out of stock in white, but from personal experience Angelic Pretty's lace-topped socks are longer and stretchier than most brands so they might actually go OTK on you if you're not that tall.)

Maxicimam also have a few pairs in stock but these are all definitely UTK:
https://www.maxicimam.com/?pid=4666932
https://www.maxicimam.com/?pid=5121543
https://www.maxicimam.com/?pid=48209229
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>>10025899
A bra size doesn't tell us as much as your bust measurement but you're probably fine, I'm a 28/30F and can still fit some unshirred Victorian Maiden. Brands like AP and Meta go way bigger than that.

>>10026172
If the cardigan is stretchy enough I stick my arms up the sleeves to pull the blouse sleeves and the ruffle down and flat. If the cardigan is a thicker material this usually hides most of it.
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>>10025908
>>10027479
Thank you so much for the advice! Some of those are perfect and now I have a better idea on what could work perfectly for this outfit.

Have a great day!
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>>10026657
How are you supposed to fit them then? I take the same size in flats and heels (assuming it's the same brand with same fit), never heard about this changing size thing except for obviously some shoe companies or styles running larger/smaller...
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>>10026985
Weights won't make you smaller. Doing strength training will complement cardio for keeping in shape, but you can't spot reduce your arms and you do run the risk of adding muscle bulk.
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>>10025893
What character is this, anon? She's cute.
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>>10027516
P-Chan (Mai Oota), from Gokinjo Monogatari
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>>10027516
Nayrt but her name is Mai Oota, or P-chan, from Gokinjo Monogatari.
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Has AP got some kind of novelty going around? I bought horror candy shop in the sale and tenso has not only got the price of the dress wrong (22260 yen instead of 24040 yen) but they also say I have a misc. item valued at 0yen that I need to value. I only ordered the one dress and nothing else. Not sure if they've just made a mistake with the invoice value or if I have someone else's dress by mistake or a novelty gift or something. Their contact page isn't letting me submit anything and I'm too paranoid to change the value and pay to ship it out in case it's not my dress and is someone's jsk instead or something. help gulls
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what is the general concensus on wearing chunky goth boots (think your basic stompy demonia) with gothic lolita? do normal lolita shoe rules apply still, or does the gothic influence make that acceptable? i've seen mixed opinions
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>>10028750
really depends on the style of the boots/shoes, anon.
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>>10028730

There is this: https://twitter.com/AP_tokyoten/status/1054631567190974464

I thought it'd be long over by now but maybe they had some extras left over. Hoping that's that and not Tenso counting the plastic bag as an extra...
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>>10028750
You'll never have a "general consensus" on anything, opinions vary, especially here. Just throwing that out there.
Anyway, I think it can be done depending on the coord, imo it looks best in old school but even then, you need to know what you're doing to make it work.
If you already have good lolita pieces and the chunky boots you want to wear with them, you can try it and see if it works for the coords you had in mind; no harm in experimenting.
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>>10028750
I love chunky goth boots with literally everything. Not that I'd post it online, basic bitches would rip me a new one
>pic related
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>>10027262
Surface Spell have had the best construction of the Taobao blouses I bought. Theirs and Dear Celine's (which don't custom size) have been the only Taobao blouses I was really satisfied with. I do also have a blouse from Parity Night I really like but I can't make a judgement on their quality overall because I've not seen any other item from them in person, whereas I've had several different DC and Surfacespell blouses in the past and they've all been good.

So that you know what I'm comparing to, most of my blouses are Baby, with some Moitie, Maxicimam, VM and old AP and IW.
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I have monkey arms, so long-sleeved brand blouses and dresses are pretty much useless to me. Does anyone know where I can get blouses with long sleeves that are a little longer than others?
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>>10029328
I don't know but if you wear hime-sleeves it'll still look good if they're too short.
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Have y'all ever washed Holy Lantern? I doesn't have anything ON the dress, it just has been worn out on the trains etc and it needs a wash. Any advice? The flocking makes me nervous
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>>10029328
VM and Moitie often have longer sleeves, longer than the brand average in any case, if that helps.
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Has anyone ever bought Taobao lolita shoes off eBay? If so, do you know if they buy the shoes off Taobao and send it to you or do they replicate them? How is the quality? I'm currently interested in a pair that was originally from Sosic Shop, but I don't want to have to go through a shopping service just for one pair of shoes. But I also don't want to buy it off eBay if I'm going to get a really bad replica.
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>>10029390
The blouses on the VM blouse I have are shorter than average and the two Moitie ones are pretty much normal...
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>>10029614
Oh, maybe you need to look for specific pieces in that case - I have a Moitie blouse with 65cm long sleeves, and I've come across VM blouses with equally long sleeves. Unless that's not long enough for you, in which case, have you tried wearing wrist cuffs to make your sleeves look longer?
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>>10029642
I'm not the anon you originally replied to, the blouses fit me fine but I'm a shortie. Both Moitie blouses I have are 66cm but so are some Baby blouses I own with similar cuts to the sleeve. The VM blouse I have only has 60cm sleeves.
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Does anyone know where to get these long cardigans (specifically in that color) shown in the picture?
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>>10029956
I've had good luck getting hem from both amazon and ebay, probably could the same thing cheaper on taobao, no idea. both I got were the exact same (but from different sellers, so they obviously got them from somewhere else) great quality and 15-16 bucks each with free shipping.
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>>10030063
What did you search up, anon? Just 'long cardigan'?
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>>10030069
School cardigan, japanese uniform cardigan, stuff like that. The seller I bought from on both platforms doesn't have the listing anymore, or I'd just link that, but they had similar pictures to this listing (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0751BS3V8/ref=twister_B06X194FGR) although the price on this is quite high and it doesn't seem to have the color you want, these were the exact pics the sellers I bought from used.
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So, I just had an extremely negative buying experience, regarding undisclosed stains, with a user in the lolita community. I've already posted reviews on LM and in the vetted discord. Is this something that I can/should post here, or is that taking it to vendetta levels? Pic related is one of the four stains on the front of the dress.
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>>10028781
>tenso counting the plastic bag as extra
lol I forgot about the plastic bags, it'd be hilarious if that was it. I'm not really getting my hopes up for any kind of novelty but it seems like it is the right dress at least, I guess I'll find out when it arrives.
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>>10030108
Holy shit name and shame
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>>10030120
Cry when you realize that I paid $300 for a "like new, worn once" dress. I eventually got my refund but...anyway there's a whole story. What thread would be most appropriate?
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Do I need to wear a petticoat under a skirt like this? (brand is Nile Perch). I just got one in the mail and I realize that the material is thin enough to see my blouse tucked into it underneath. Perhaps I should wear a slip? Or would a petti be proper for this style+attain additional poofage?
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>>10030148

Anything that isn't lolita doesn't "need" a petticoat, lolita is the only fashion that actually requires petticoats.

You just wear a petticoat if it looks better with one. Try on the skirt, and if it looks like a limp cabbage wrapped around your legs, then definitely get a petticoat and stick it under there. Or if you simply like the shape better with a petti, then wear one.

It does sound like you at least need a slip even if you're not wearing a petticoat, though.
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has anyone had experience with washing AP's classic fairy tales in wine? i heard someone say in passing that the wine colorway bleeds really badly, so i'm a bit wary.

unrelated, but what should i search on taobao to find rhs/what shops have good ones?
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>>10030123
If you got the refund then what's the story?
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>>10030251
She initially refused to offer anything but a $20 refund. I was willing to keep it if she refunded like $75 and take my chances with dry cleaning, but she kept telling me to "be reasonable." She couldn't figure out how to refund me properly, sent it goods and services so I had to refund *her* the refund, and wait another four days while bugging her to send it. I had to eat the cost of sending it back to her in Australia, so there goes another $35. It's a whole thing.
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>>10030245
You might be able to find the shop that had Bodyline factory replicas in the catalog, they had their rose RHS.
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Does anyone know where I can find those really floofy crimped wigs and also good twin tail wigs that isn’t gothic lolita wigs
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>>10030120
second naming and shaming. If not for yourself then for other lolitas who might end up spending money on shit that is gross.
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>>10030254
wait who. I bought a dress that was shitier than described from Australia a few weeks ago
she offered $20 before I received it, but after I got it it was more damaged than she said. Even after she sent it she told me there was additional yellowing she “forgot” to mention on the sales post
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Sorry, stuck on mobile. So Meta has a ¥1111 coupon that will work all day on the 11th JST. Will it work on the Grimoire MTO? They don’t say when on the 11th the sale will end and the coupon doesn’t seem to mention anything in exclusions. Website is chugging for me though, I wonder if it’ll just be worse tomorrow...


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>>10030939
By sale I mean the MTO, sorry, coupon actually has very clear times.
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>>10030939
It should be ok? The announcement text says:
> »You can use the coupon or get the Metamorphose points also for the new release items
Which includes the MTO for Romantic Kimono, so I don't see why it wouldn't apply to this MTO as well. Additionally, when you review your order you can see whether or not the coupon was applied to your total. Hth!
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>>10029348
Put inside out in a lingerie bag and wash on cold gentle, then hang dry. Mine is from 2013 and has a little flocking wearing away but it came to me that way from the original owner.
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What do people mean when they say something is a feeler sale?
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>>10031080
It usually means they want to see how much people will offer for the item, but that they're not committed to selling it unless they get an offer that makes them want to part with it.

I think they were eventually banned back on LJ because it was so wishy-washy. It's much better to just set a price you're happy with or don't sell it at all instead of having people compete until the price is right, so to speak. An auction with a reserve would even be more suitable.
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>>10030957
Oh, didn't notice that, true so it should work, thanks!

In other things though, ugh their website is dying so hard. Or is it just me? I've been trying for half an hour to get these damn hairclips from Grimoire in my cart. The crash page says to email their english help if it's "urgent", if I can't get the order through in the next hour (I have work soon agh) do you think they'd take an order through email?
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>>10031092
Yes, or sometimes someone wants to see if there's demand for an item before taking the time to make a detailed LM listing with pics. E.g. people posting a "feeler" within a local comm using only a stock pic of a dress they own and going to the trouble to take more if somebody's interested.
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>>10025899
BIG BOBS
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Best place to get a really poofy petticoat?
if anyone had links they could share, I'd be eternally grateful
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>>10031209
Seconding this. I need max poof for science reasons.
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>>10031209
>>10031232
I'm a big fan of the petticoats by Aurora and Ariel.

I have this one for cupcake-style poof. It should be available in white and black, but it looks like white is out of stock at the moment:

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.5-c.w4002-5082959735.28.4eb344be32KfUv&id=550702071544
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>>10031209
I heard melikestea is really good
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>>10031209
One of my comm members got a melikestea one and its massive
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I want to get something on Y!A but the seller is "no gajin buyers" so Buyee won't buy it. Are there any SS that is willing to buy from these sellers?
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>>10031209
One Day in Paradise via Lolita Collective makes a huge cupcake petticoat I'm currently experimenting with
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>>10031209
https://item.rakuten.co.jp/auc-andromeo/p2/
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do you guys wear lolita in public or is it more of a convention thing? i'm the type of person who likes to stand out but gets insecure when people make weird faces at me
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>>10032144
Public. Sure you can wear it to conventions, and that's where a ton of the more over the top takes on the style show up, but wearing it just going about your day is perfectly reasonable.
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>>10032144
Many people wear it regularly, and there's a lot of factors involved in how tolerable it can be. If you're in a large metropolitan area, for example, people care less about what you're wearing, and gothic/classic is often perceived as "less weird" than sweet. But in terms of not liking stares and attention... Well, you just have to get used to it and grow thick skin, because people are just going to notice you. Practice going out with friends in public and have answers prepared for questions people might ask. In public spaces where I'm trying to mind my own business, I like to wear sunglasses and just walk very purposefully and not make eye contact (also since I used to work on a street with lots of street kids who heckle pretty much everyone).

On a personal level, I feel like wearing in lolita helps with my anxiety because I know people are looking at me because of my clothes, and I get anxious if I'm not in lolita and still feel like people are giving me weird looks (which is....obviously most the time all in my head but what can ya do). And sometimes, you do meet nice people who will be very kind about it and compliment you, like people you would never expect! So it can be nice in that way.
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>>10032144
I wear it out in public, whether it’s to go out on dates or running errands. I’m a super spergy, socially awkward lonelita so I understand the feeling you get when people give you weird looks, but honestly you’ll become used to it after a while.
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>>10032144
I wear it out in public. I'm a lonelita, but I've always been really "different" stylewise. It does take a while to get used to all the stupid attention, but eventually you just stop caring. And I'm super introverted and used to be super shy, so... if I can do it, anyone can.
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>>10029348
I've had good results hand washing mine with Soak detergent.

>>10032144
I wear Lolita in public pretty often, I wore it to a con once but I don't get to go very often to cons.

People do make weird faces, but that starts to matter a lot less when you start getting comfortable in the fashion.

If it helps you can use going out in public in Lolita as a motivator to work towards being less insecure when people stare.
I had some bad social anxiety a while back, but wanting to be comfortable in Lolita in public made me want to work to be more comfortable in general. Now I wear it pretty often even when I get weird looks.
Maybe it'll work out like that for you too!
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I recently found what appears to be a second hand lolita store on taobao and was wondering if anyone has personally bought from them or can verify that they are legit and not selling replicas? The price for a Mademoiselle de Paris special set sounds about right but for all I know it could be overpriced garbage.

https://shop66954367.taobao.com
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>>10032079
FromJapan usually will, Chibitenshi definitely will.
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>>10032144
I haven't been to a con since 2014. It can be a comfortable place to wear your first coord if you're nervous, since you're not going to stand out so much, but nowadays I mostly wear lolita to visit museums and galleries or just go out with friends.
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>>10030441
Rissetensai
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Does anyone have the link to the J-fash bangs google doc/power point? I really need to save it, it’s so useful.
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>>10033148
Here you go: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bOtnwgB9nh1HPKFPGY50JqtjibooeHZ6a3TCsOfAkDQ/edit?usp=sharing
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I keep seeing people getting beautiful velvet, tartan and gothic pieces on mail threads and I have no idea where or how they manage to get them. Tell me your secrets gulls because Closet child and wunderwelt keep letting me down and I hate dealing with LM

Also where is a good place for gothic headdresses? I already know antique beast but is there anywhere else?
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>>10033155
Ah you were so fast anon, thank you so much!
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>>10033173
Mercari, Fril, y!ja, TokyoAlice.

All my best headdresses were either Antique Beast or lucky auction finds.
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>>10032508
Thank you!
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>>10031209
The Wunderwelt original petti is very poofy, I have one and it doesn't even fit under several of my dresses
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Is there a specific name for this style? It's kind of earthy, kind of a more toned-down otome. I'd love to try and find more of it (and not on Wish).
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>>10033291
Looks a bit like the stuff Earth Music & Ecology sell, or even some western brands like Fat Face. I don't think there's a specific style name.
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Where do you gulls get your lacey gloves? I am kind of hesitent to buy brand because my hands are pretty large (I am semi-tall, 172 cm) and my fingers are long. Am I just fucked and shouldn't bother with gloves, or are there some custom taobao sellers or just ones that carry larger sizes?
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>>10031877
>>10031873
I don't know if it was just the one I got, but I really hated my petticoat from them. It was too short and the material was scratchy. It /was/ pretty poofy though
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>>10033469
Perhaps you picked a material that's too hard/didn't measure your required length before ordering? I have one from melikestea and it's soft, super poofy and just the right length.

I had to specify my material, length and poofiness when ordering of course, it wasn't the defaults.

Pic related is my 50cm poof monster.
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>>10033484
Under a dress
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>>10033458
Get some nice vintage ones, they come in western sizes and are usually just as nice as brand ones
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>>10031372
How does this hold up against heavy fabrics
>>10031873
I have a MLT in hard tulle and it deflated eventually, can't decide if I want another and if so what fabric. The hard tulle used to be huge but now it's sad
>>10032107
What do you think about it? Is it good for heavy velveteen and thick cotton or just chiffon
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>>10033458
seconding the comment, also i would consider wristcuffs instead. a lot less worrying about tearing shit and chances are you don't have tree trunks for wrists so the elastic will accomodate
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>>10033458
Cutie Creator/Sweet Dreamer or lace crochet ones from amazon
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>>10033485
>>10033484
I did specify length and it came out shorter than requested. I didn't realize we had to specify material though, yours looks much much nicer than what I got for sure
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>>10033534
I'd suggest organza has the best balance, I got a voile one with a lot of layers and although it's heavy it's still not that pooch because voile doesn't have that much natural structure. It might be better if you get those ruffles between layers but she forgot to put them on mine.

I have one tulle petti (not MLT) and only really use it as an extra layer for A-lines over my normal petti since it holds it shape without getting squished down at the edges.

>>10033458
You could try Western brands that do stuff for weddings like Dents. I like buying vintage gloves since I have small hands but it might not be good for you, women in the past were smaller so they're not usually large.
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>>10033458
I've had good luck finding nice crochet and lace gloves at places and websites that supply gear for victorian and civil war re-enactors. I wear gothic though, and finding black gloves is easier than finding colors.
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I got a new jsk today, with the max bust of 91. I fit bust 88 blouses just comfortably, I'd say I measure about a 86 bust. The jsk is thin cotton and I fill out the bodice without any strain, but its a snug fit. the problem is, every button, ruffle, detail on the blouse shows up under the jsk... is this because of the fit and I should get jsk's with a baggy fit, or is it because of the fabric and it's to be expected? Am I making an unnecessarily big deal out of this?
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>>10033780
I should add its fairly see through when I completely unzip it too but other worn pic I've seen of it with a blouse under it looked alright
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Hey gulls, it there any chance someone who could link me to the lolibrary page for this dress? I would do it myself but for some reason the website's currently not working for me. I need measurements!!!!!!

Pretty please!
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>>10033812
Also! The dress is btssb
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>>10033812
it's not working for anyone, noob.
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>>10033812
>https://egl.circlly.com/auctions/free-shipping-worldwide-btssb-2003-old-school-corduroy-jsk-with-sleeves-in-ivory-x-red-baby-the-stars-shine-bright

Not lolibrary but another listing of the same dress with measurements in the desc
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>>10033812
Seriously? it's not working for anyone. Ask the seller for measurements.
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>>10033817
>noob
Nah. Just only lurk v specific threads.
I kinda figured no one else was able to access it either, but the fb page din't say anything so I had hoped I was just unlucky. what exactly is going on? Has it been discussed on the board yet?
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>>10033819
I would, but WW is selling it. I tried to message them once for a sales post but when 2 weeks passed I just caved and bought anyways. I don't really want a repeat of that
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>>10033818
Holy shit thank you so much!!!
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>>10033780
with pieces like that I usually wear a blouse that doesn't have buttons or a ton of details
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>>10033780

Could be either, desu. If you care to post the dress maybe someone who owns it can tell you more.

I've owned some very thin dresses that would show every bump underneath, but also some very thin dresses that don't -- for some reason AP and Meta are much better with not showing bumps, I'm not sure if they just use a better lining for their thin poly dresses or what.

And then there's IW, which boobloafs in every direction and will show you boob pancakes along with buttons bumps and bodice strain even though max bust and waist is like 5cm above my bust.

Also could equally be your buttons are too big. A lot of my blouses, even AP with their fancy buttons, have pretty flat buttons, not exactly humongous knobs, so even if it showed it's just be some fairly flat bumps anyhow.
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What kind of style would you call Gunifuni and Tuketasi's clothing?
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half of the styles i want to wear require pleated skirts. where can i get pastel ones in fatty chan sizes?
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>>10034928
bodyline
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What laundry detergent do the girls on JP Mercari wash their clothes with?? Every time I get mail from my SS, all the second hand clothes I order have that old books/bubblegum smell. Can I order the detergent online? Help it smells so good
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>>10035014
I asked the same thing a while ago! I think the general consensus was that it's dry cleaning smell rather than a detergent
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Those of you who have boyfriends who buy stuff for you, where do they buy from? Do they always buy new? My bf's asking me what I want for Christmas and I want to recommend a secondhand site that he could get something from, but I feel like sellers on LM might be put off by the fact that he's male? From what I understand some secondhand shops in Japan are wary about selling used women's clothing to men, do you know if that's true for closetchild or wunderwelt? I feel like the best option would probably be something like Y!Japan or Fril through a shopping service, but it seems like a lot to ask him to learn how to do that just to get me presents.
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>>10035063
You don't have to display your gender on LM as far as I know, and I doubt most sellers would take issue with it. And i imagine men buy from closetchild all the time, either as gifts or as brolitas or buying the mens clothing they have for sale there. Do you think they're gonna turn down a sale and refuse to take his money?
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Is it a bad thing if I can't raise my arms all the way up while wearing an OP?
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>>10035014
i now associate that smell with the joy of opening packages and its the most amazing thing ever, man i just love lolita
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>>10034957
what about bigger than bodyline sizes?
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>>10035149
If it makes you unable to function normally, yes. I have very wide shoulders so I can't rise my arms completely and it makes even dresses a bit baggy on me otherwise look tight. I can zip them by myself though and put hair accessories on my head. If you can't do those it's bad.
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I’m really only familiar w/ sweet Lolita fashion brands. What are some good gothic Lolita brands?
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>>10035693
Boz , moitie, atelier pierrot, antique beast
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I got a real stupid question. Does Bodyline have any sort of customer service email? I have not ordered from them in awhile and never had an issues but a large order was just canceled on me and I can not figure out why. I can't seem to find any sort of email or inquiry form on the site, am I blind? If i am thats fine i'll admit this is stupid question.
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>>10035745
did they send you any sort of email? should let you know the reason for cancelling, though you'll likely have to translate it.
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>>10035773
They have not which is the source of my confusion. I thought I had paid properly last night but this morning relized paypal had not sent me an emial, it was not in a paypal statement, and bodyline had not sent me any sort of email about the order. The only thing it says on the order status is 'cancelled'
I would like to try to find out if it was an issue with paypal for it to be cancelled or an issue with bodyline itself but I cannot find anyway to contact them. I'm also trying their FB and Twitter but I do not think they are going to respond.
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>>10035776
oooh, that's happened to me when I jsut never finished making the order. like, if I go to pay, then get distracted on paypal and forget and it logs me out, then it will say cancelled. so likely, the payment just never went through because you didn't finish it.
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>>10035776
going to say >>10035784
is probably right. same thing has happened to me when I forget about an order, or go through with it to see how much paypal will charge me after converting from yen then just close out the tab without completing it. If you paid, then both bodyline and paypal would send you an email. really just sounds like you never completed the payment, so after a while the order gets cancelled because it was never finished.
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>>10035788
>>10035784
thanks for the help anon, theres a good chance that happened. Completely redoing the order is the best way to go about it right?
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>>10035693
Adding on to >>10035728, also Sheglit and Miho Matsuda though they're a bit more plain.
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>>10035794
Omg yes! Love both of them
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>>10035790
Yes, seeing as how bodyline never received payment since it was not completed.
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>>10035149
Men cant raise their arms too high in suits so idk doesn't seem that big a deal.
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>>10035063
I feel like getting a partner used to an SS is a bit much. I'd recommend closetchild or wunderwelt. Lacemarket could be okay but what if he had a bad seller and didnt know what to do if it came damaged or he didnt notice the damages?

Idk if this is an option for you but my husband didnt want to deal with online shopping so he just let's me buy my own gifts within a price range he sets.
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Bought pic related. Velveteen. First velveteen dress. Assuming dry clean only? Is it safe to steam, maybe from the underside of the fabric?
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Why do sellers list the same item on Fril and Mercari, but the mercari one is more expensive? I've seen this multiple times now and i'm confused. I want to buy an item, should i buy the cheaper listing on Frill or is there some weird caveat?.. plz help
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Why is Rainie's a controversial seller on LM? I've been looking at some stuff she's selling, but I've heard others say you shouldn't support her.
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>>10025716
Me top left.
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>>10036006
can u lurk more
she’s a scalper
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>>10036006
Because she's a scalper and buys things from fril/mercari just to sell on Lacemarket with the price bumped considerably.
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>>10035994
I think Mercari charges more selling fee or the shipping fee is included in price
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>>10036006
She buys listings from various secondhand sources and resells them after inflating the price far higher than she bought it for. There's also proof of her not disclosing all the damages/imperfections that were included in the original listing of the item.
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>>10036012
ah, i thought it might be more selling fees. they both have shipping included
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>>10025716
So I purchased Blessing from Juno Dot Ivory OP off of lace market. It came in really good condition (seemingly) but once I wore it out I noticed a very faint orange-y stain on the outer chiffon layer and you can't really see it unless its out in the sun. Should I try cleaning it myself or would it be better to take it to a try cleaner?
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can you combine buyee and tenso orders?
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>>10036073
no
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>>10036006
Pretty much >>10036014

Have an old thread where we discussed LM scalpers: http://rbt.asia/cgl/thread/9823678

Basically what makes me mad is how there are people who would want those listings Rainies buys to wear. I would be so hype and it would make my day if I got something I really wanted for a really low price. But no, Rainies (and other scalpers, there's a few in Japan too) buy all the cheap listings and try to sell you something they bought at ¥3000 for $120 plus international shipping.
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>>10036006
Rainies is a scalper and also just shoddy with her listings. I bought three separate listings from her and only got feedback on one of them. I would have appreciated an accurate record of my purchases.
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>>10035968
Should be safe to steam inside out, I steam all my velveteen pieces.
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>>10036006
I bought a dress from Rainies and there were some serious undisclosed issues with the dress. I found out those were perfectly stated in the original listing that she bought it from, for far cheaper too. She copy-pasted their whole description and left out the issues. I got curious then and looked at some of her other listing's 'origins' and all of them without an exception were copied the same way, with a price raise.
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This is gonna sound dumb but...if you're wearing a gray jacket/short coat, how do you tie it into the rest of your coord if there's no gray in your main piece? You're not going to wear gray shoes or a gray bag or a gray hair accessory (unless it's a beret/hat). Is is OK if there's nothing else that colour at all?

Pic related not mine but similar, I know it's greige not true gray IRL.
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>>10036244
Look for items with similar saturation, if it's a cool gray, mix it with cool colors, if a warm gray mix it with warm colors. Also great for monochrome coords with black and white, brown generally works nice as well.
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>>10036249
Thanks, I was thinking of wearing it with blues and whites so it should be harmonious.
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Are these somewhat replicas?
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>>10036233
Oh wow I didn't know Rainies was controversial desu, doesn't she have like perfect feedback on LM? Btw since you're making accusations you should post some proof but I mean, I do know we're on cgl so whatever
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How do I get rid of pinholes via steaming?

I own AP Charlotte's Bear OP and the seller never mentioned that there are two pinholes in the tie (pic related is what the tie looks like). They're not very noticeable but I want to try and get rid of them for good.

My concern is would the steam damage the fabric at all or make the tiny rhinestone fall off? The tie is a silky-type polyester fabric. Help would be much appreciated!
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>>10036283
Or just look it up yourself? This is not some secret info that's hard to find
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>>10036313
I don't think it'd damage it, the fabric looks the same as on other AP pieces I've steamed without issue.
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>>10035149
I mean, yes

But also you might be me and an idiot who is determined to wear a dress even though she can't raise her arms, and then gets home at 12am only to realize she's stuck in her dress because she can't reach the zipper and has to ask her roommate who's she's never spoken to to get her out
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>>10036313
If you're worried, hold the steamer away from the fabric to gently heat the area, and then work the fabric with your fingers. Repeat until holes are gone.
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>>10036350
>>10036518

Thanks anons! I was even thinking of also covering the emblem part with a cloth, since the holes are further up. What do you think?





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