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Last: http://boards.4chan.org/cgl/thread/9432788/
And discuss why Közi was the best Mizer.
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>>9577138
I fucked up the last thread link
Let's try now
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Kamijo's birthday event was pretty fun! The first band was absolute shit, but everything after that was enjoyable.

During Kamijo's solo performance he managed to break his in-ear monitor. At least I think that's what happened given his frantic pointing. They had to stop for about 15-20 minutes to fix that lol. He looked pissed. A poor roadie definitely got chewed out from the daggers he was staring into him.

Comparing Matenrou Opera to Versailles...it's surprising. Matenrou has the better stage presence. I've been a fan of both since they started, but didn't get a chance to see Versailles live with their current lineup.

The cake ceremony was cute too. Fuck Tokyo metro for only running until 00:15 though. I almost missed my last train.
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>>9577275
Did any of the ex-Lareine guys assist?
I really want Lareine back.
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>>9577276
Not that I saw, they may have come as guests though.
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Does anyone have recs for Oshare kei bands?
I know most of the more popular ones, but are there any lesser known ones you guys would recommend?
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>>9577299
Damn, I guess that Lareine reunion was a one in a lifetime thing.
How was Shape Shifter by the way?
>>9578507
I'm not really into oshare, but I liked some older ones.
Parfait:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1hhXkieOPk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-NY2BfWTvQ
Mizeria:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDK1B5p7n7I
And I don't think if they were really considered oshare, I think they were, Kurara Zeroshiki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqROS7Nf_rU
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Am I the only one who thinks it's a bit creepy to cosplay Visual Kei artists? I understand you're their fan and all but dressing up like them is sort of strange to me.


I think it's strange to cosplay real people in general, you usually put a lot more effort into a cosplay vs your average person who buys halloween mask of a president/insertrandomgenericfamouspersonhere.
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>>9578584
Thanks for showing me Parfait! I like them a lot. I've heard Mizeria before, and they're good too.
I don't think I'd consider Kurara to be Oshare, but I've heard them before as well. (Kiryu is my favorite band, so I may or may not have done some snooping on all the member's past bands. Whoops.)
>>9578588
Hmm.. I think it would be creepy to cosplay them in just a casual outfit or something, but I think it's okay to cosplay an outfit from their official looks. The outfits are almost always super cool looking, I can't blame people for wanting to cosplay them. (Then again, maybe I'm biased, since I've done VK group cosplays before.)
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>>9578609
I actually wasn't aware the Kiryu guys are the ex-mizeria/kurara ones. Cool. I really liked the Mizeria vocalist too, but I haven't heard his other bands.
If you liked Parfait, I recommend checking out SyvaR, the band most of the members were in before Parfait.
It's less oshare and more gothic though. IMO one huge underrated band. I wish they continued in this direction rather than what they did in Parfait, but both bands are still good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6diN-Ot-RQ
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>>9578584
Shape Shifter was really good! Out of all of the bands that were there that I had never heard before, which was the first one, David, ベル, Shape Shifter, and Purple Stone, them and Purple Stone were the most enjoyable.

David was okay, I felt there was a disconnect between the vocals and the music. Like if they had been two separate bands it would have worked lol. I don't know what Kamijo's plans are with him, but Sui was very talkative and seemed like good friends with Kamijo.
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Do you know of any blogs or similar accounts with dumps of rare vk material?
Usually japanese don't share music or videos, but they can share pictures.
I've been following this twitter for years, there's always new content everyday. It's mostly old school VK but also some newer stuff.
Lots of rare pictures, flyers, magazine clips and even anquettes too.
https://twitter.com/rojam_darwin
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New FIXER MV - リナリア
https://youtu.be/AnIXbhIfRcM
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Don't know if anyone keeps up with them, but SuG has announced an indefinite hiatus. jrocknews . com / 2017 /07/sug-shock-announcement-hiatus-indefinite-comeback-members-comment-thoughts.html
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>>9582194
I saw that.. I'm pretty sad about it, and they way they're talking about it seems it might be more of a disbandment. Maybe that's just me. I hope that they come back after their hiatus, whenever that may be.
>>9582167
I really liked this, but it's not as good as their other songs in my opinion. The outfits are great though.
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アクメ (chisa and shogo new band) - SENKOU
https://youtu.be/aXpplCEAfCc
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>>9578507
Anfiel is pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2tFOMp0oB0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iSXosY8Mxw

Also try 0.1g they are newer but they have some really catchy songs and PV's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X2o_Eo31Fs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01OS5GUK2co
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>>9580300
It depends on what your looking for.
I know of a few youtube channels that upload some older video's and songs.
https://www.youtube.com/user/cantavanda
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkMALOUkSodkHpewi660f2A
are the first two that come to mind.

As for twitter I follow
https://twitter.com/old_school_vk
And they post a lot of good video's and pictures from 90's bands.
I hope this helps some!
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>>9577275
The first band was shit? I'm a fan of theirs, it sucks to know they aren't good live. What was it about them that was bad?
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>>9587909
I mean if you like unintelligible screaming and running around on stage, and yelling through a megaphone while beating your head with your mic? Then they were pretty good lol. It's just not my particular taste.
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>>9587921
That sounds very like them actually. I was pretty surprised when I heard they were going to be a part of Kamijo's birthday live. Their style of music isn't very elegant
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What new bands are actually really good?
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>>9588465
Yusai is good, its the old members of zin without riku and with luy(now amane) on vocals
https://youtu.be/r4EHdhoLLro
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>>9589193
2nd mv
https://youtu.be/oM3147ZXLg0
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>>9587924
So as someone who also finds that type of music to be hard to listen to, what draws you to that style?
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>>9589466
My first response was to say they are fun, but that doesn't apply to everyone lol. I suppose I like the rougher and raw-ish sound, but they aren't always crazy and the studio versions can be pretty clean. They have good energy and I always get into the songs. If you don't mind me spamming some links, these are really good ones:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrxZjpZ9Q8U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxBollOHOvA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1RCZqRgFJA
And some of the softer stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu6ed6gXN5A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZFQZnYTTJQ
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>>9589197
I recommend Yusai too, they're amazing, and I'm glad Zin decided to continue on as a new band.
>>9588465
Yumeleep (ユメリープ) is incredibly good, I really like the vocalist, but I think maybe they're not for everyone? Definitely recommend giving them a listen though. Recently one of their guitarists, Kaguya, came down sick and has taken a break from the band.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyXTcNp1T8A (My personal favorite.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKDfRTgeYA8
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>>9588465
I really like Rides in ReVellion.
They performed at Anime USA and have made some great music! Give them a listen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkQ9iXSNRfc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6uLFCiQgR0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4iwaSpPuiU
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Is it just me or all VK vocalist look really similar nowadays? They all look like the guy from Mejibray.
Maybe it's the makeup, but I really have a hard time telling bands apart.
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>>9591469
I've noticed that as well. Over the years a lot fo bands are just sort of blending together and starting to look and sound a like. Its hard to find a good band out of the bunch.
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>>9592117
I feel like neither of you are really exploring visual kei. While there are many bands that are incredibly similar to each other, theres a ton that aren't like that.
This is coming from someone who has been into visual kei for years, and has heard and seen hundreds of bands, but never had a problem getting them confused.
Some bands tend to take aesthetics from other bands when they're first starting out (When Londboy started up, lots of people thought it was a ripoff of Royz. Pic related. I can slightly see the similarity, but not much? This is from their early days.) but eventually turn it into their own thing.
Just my 2 cents. Of course many bandmen look similar or even the same, but a majority don't, so I think it's not fair to say "all" or "almost all".
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>>9593240
yeah, the thought never crossed my mind, i can't really pin two bands that are the same but that's maybe because i listen to deathgaze one day then smileberry the next
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>>9593240
Yeah of course "all" is a hyperbole. I just meant many of them, like >>9589193 the guy here with the huge fan, if you told me that's the Mejibray vocalist, I wouldn't be able to tell them apart.
I'm pretty sure it's the makeup though, and the face expressions they make.
It's like how in the 90s everyone (not really everyone, but a lot of vkies) wanted to look like Kyo.
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>>9593347
The only people I've thought looked similar are tsuzuku and morrigan's drummer setsuna or uruha and oni from ganglion
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>>9593347
The guy with the fan and Tsuzuku don't look the same at all imo. I think you are just getting confused by the makeup
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>>9593347
I've never noticed a similarity between Amane and Tsuzuku at all.. Tsuzuku looks a lot more.. rough? I don't know the word for it.
Makeup, maybe, but even then it's pretty easy to tell one band member from another for me.
>>9593375
I can definitely see Setsuna and Tsuzuku looking alike, actually. But I think its their facial structure being similar, rather than makeup, pic related. Hair colors, makeup is totally different but their bone structure is very similar.
>>9593264
Glad to see someone who does the same thing as me. I switch from super hardcore bands to cute oshare kei a lot, my taste is all over the place.
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>>9593264
I do the same thing, Ill go from Nocturnal Bloodlust to Dog inThePWO. My taste is all over the place.
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>>9586845
from chisa's twitter
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>>9593347
Everyone in the 90s wanted to look like Kiyoharu, including Kyo.
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>>9578588
I dont think its creepy if its well done. But one thing I do notice with people who cosplay VK is that they skip the make up. If your going to cosplay VK a big part of it is the make up. Please at least try and do it. Dont just skip it.
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>>9593240
I never get the bands confused, but i have to admit everyone does look the same. I've listened to vkeis even in the 90s and they all have a distinct look. Its a look so I am not really bothered by it but i do admit the similarities.
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>>9578588
I don't think it's creepy to cosplay them. I used to do it a lot. I do think it's creepy to stay "in character" and roleplay as them, or whatever you think they're like, but that's another story and most cosplayers I've met don't do that.
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>>9596121
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7Zqq5YY4t4
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>>9596161
Agreed, cosplaying a jrocker's stage costumes isn't creepy but yaoi roleplay with them or w/e is creepy considering they're a real person.
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>>9577138
Közi's looks were always my favorite in the band
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On the topic of cosplay, I'm gonna drop a few visual kei cosplay pics that I really like.
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>>9599567
Speaking of Kozi, he will be a guest producer on the Schwarz Stein best of album, and he will also be a special guest at Schwarz Steins one man coming up.
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>>9599764
That's pretty cool, I remember Hora remixed Közi's "ISM" song for the remix album. Pretty cool version of the song.
I kind of wish he would release a 3rd solo album, I really love his solo works. I like XA-VAT and ZIZ too, but Közi having complete freedom on composition and production is better IMO.
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So I guess Mana is trying to get in contact with Klaha so they can do something for Malice Mizer's 25th birthday. It would be amazing if they could pull something together for a revival.
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>>9602675
my heart stopped.
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>>9577138
what is this and why is it Twin Peaks
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>>9603622
the 90's
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>>9602675
I guess he is trying to get in contact with all the vocalists Mizer had. I dont know if anything will come out of this, but damn it would be amazing if it did.
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I was trying to find pics of Mana-sama in aristo and came upon this pic that made me laugh really hard
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>>9603622
It's Közi from Malice Mizer.
They like Twin Peaks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F143kJea2tw
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New MV from REIGN - RISE

https://youtu.be/4scUAfrRxsA
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>>9604002
I swear, Mana is 50% pretentious vampire lord and 50% goffick weeb teen that never grew up.
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>>9577138
Someone made a Mana kig.
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>>9605949
Thats why we love him.
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>>9605949
He's also a huge /vr/ collector
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>>9608123
is this a jojo reference?
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So the Gazette seem to be teasing a new world tour that will come with the release of their new album next year.
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>>9603622
i came here to ask why Kozi was dead, wrapped in plastic
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Besides JPG, Justin Davis, and Artemis Classic, are there any other jewelry brands that fit with a v-kek style or are favored by band men? I really want to invest in a few more pieces, but I can't remember names.
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>>9615498
I know some bands have their own brand. Versailles releases jewelry quite often. And the Gazette work with a lot of brands. Off the top of my head I know Aoi does work with Taujun, and Reita does work with Deal Design.
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>>9615503
The only stuff I've seen from Versailles has been AC colabs. Actually just bought one of the rings.
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>>9615498
>>9615503

I see Chrome Hearts and BACKBONE THE BASIS a lot

Kyo has madaraningen but his stuff is always sold out
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>>9615526
They all have rings as a colab with Symphony Of The Vampire.
Masashi's looks like cat paws wrapping around your finger. Its really cute.
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>>9615498
Yu~ki from Malice Mizer has his own line of jewelry called Mother of Life, he sells through the Midi Nette shop site:
http://midi-nette.shop-pro.jp/
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>>9615526
God damn looks like where part of my next paycheck is going to go has been decided. The Versailles collabs are stunning. I've looked at AC before but never seen this.
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With morrigan's upcoming europa tour, who is excited?

Anyone else learning the Furi?
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>>9619326
Can't wait, checking to see if they've posted the dates and venues almost every day
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>>9619411
I just hope they're doing vip early access.
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>>9619235
Right? The ring doesn't ship until mid October. I'm tempted to get Teru's ring too and maybe one of the pendants.

Although I'm a bit wary. I have an AC pendant that has oxidized pretty bad. Going to have to see if I can fix it.
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>>9619456
Are they expensive?
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>>9619485
$80-$300 for most of their sterling silver pieces. Most of the Versailles series are $80-$150. Not terribly expensive as far as Japanese jewelry brands go. Justin Davis and Chrome Hearts are much more expensive.
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>>9619494
Ah okay, it sure is tempting...
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>>9619456
Oh darn, that sucks. If it's just silver any tarnish should rub right off with a polishing cloth though. I played flute for ages, those things tarnish like mad. Thanks for the warning though, it's good to know what to expect.

I'm a gothic lolita Moitiefag, I should have known all the good jewlery reccomendations were here. Been driving myself mad trying to find good stuff.
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>>9619456
Im also really tempted to get Teru's ring. Its really pretty.
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>>9619326
just got told they will be selling band towels.
I am excited
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No UK Show
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>>9620937
a flight from england to amsterdam is pretty cheap
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Do you guys think Kozi watched the Twin Peaks finale?
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>>9615498
Deal Design and Royal Order are a few other brands that make similar jewelry. Deal Design also does collabs with band members sometimes.
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I know this isn't /mu/ but could someone rec me some symphonic vk? Like I really love the sound of versailles, gpkism, moi dix mois, etc.
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>>9629078
Matenrou Opera
Kaya
ACE
Malice Mizer
Juka
Node of Scherzo
Aiolin

Hopes that helps some
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>>9629078
Amadeus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23MY57jg4xc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H-d0Fr2iyk

Might be cheating, but Jupiter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xQM778WyeE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOaNwi_2M8o
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>>9629078
hizaki grace project
kamijo's solo work
misaruka
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>>9629089

I already know half of these but I am looking forward to marathon listening to the rest this weekend. thanks anons <3
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>>9629078
Aioria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC_gk4RkZag
Raphael
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I0QTJxtUQ4
Eliphas Levi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=favRQIOujjw
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Can anyone recommend me visual kei music that's actually good? A lot of what I find is either bad music good looks, or good bands that are really old thus impossible to ever see live.
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>>9630613
morrigan is really good
https://youtu.be/9x1BeRm6dio

Codomo dragon is also good
https://youtu.be/_r_QKXTfi-4

Yusai too (new zin)
https://youtu.be/r4EHdhoLLro

Dadaroma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wesjiS_LZww
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>>9630613
Most good vk bands are no longer active. Buck-tick is still around, and luna sea do some concerts every now and then
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>>9630613
Unless you're in Japan, most of these groups are near impossible to see live anyway. And it depends on what you like the sound of.
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>>9630613
I cant really give suggestions unless I know what your looking for. But for now I would just say to avoid Oshare Kei. Thats the sub genre that usually has the squeaky vocalists.
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>>9629078
The usual has been said but:
Art Cube
Lacroix Despheres
Lareine
Schwardix Marvally
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>>9578609
This. Cosplaying them in their official looks is ok because the outfits, hair and make up are pretty much a costume for them as well, their "stage persona" or even a "character" they play. Plus besides looking awesome, replicating those looks can be as hard as replicating an anime character's ones.
Is no different from people dressing as Gene Simmons's Demon.
Now, a "casual x cosplay"? that shit is not cosplay. It doesn't work, like a "casual Gene Simmons" cosplay wouldn't work.
That's when things start getting creepy as fuck, and into roleplaying territory.
How can it be a cosplay if you are dressing in casual clothes? There is nothing special or unique that makes the conection to the guy you are "cosplaying as", you are someone in casual clothes and that's what people will see, not your favorite artist.
Do you like their casual looks so much you want to dress like that? Even get the same hairstyle? Do it, but don't take selfies and claim is a cosplay. Is not.
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>>9629078
Vampire Rose
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>>9632751
I thought oshare kei was a wrong term that's not a subgenre of visual kei but just means fashionable or whatever is trendy.
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>>9636662
I would call Oshare Kei a subgenre. Oshare Kei literally means fashionable style. But its more than that, the sound is different than the other sub genre's. Oshare Kei focuses on more pop/punk rather than rock and metal.
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>>9637393
I know but I heard it was a misunderstanding (like when we thought kodona was a style) and in Japan oshare kei does not refer to the group of bands you mean, but to the bands that are following (clothing) trends or are trendsetters.
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Are you going here?
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>>9638752
yes, amstelveen
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>>9638756
Is that in Amsterdam?
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>>9638760
it is just outside amsterdam to be correct, they just tried to make it sound more appealing on the poster
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>>9638752
no uk date
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this is true. Oshare kei to us in the west would be An cafe and that's not actually oshare kei. In Japan Plastic tree would be more oshare kei since their music and looks are more trendy and fashionable. Bands like An cafe and other overly cutesy stuff doesn't really have determined name in Japan but I heard some people refer to it as kira kira bands on tanuki.
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>>9638766
I think it’s very stupid that they didn’t mention. If people from other countries want to visit they might make wrong travel arrangements. But I can imagine hiding Amstelveen, it’s horrible to reach by public transport.
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So ZIN is leaving Jupiter. I wonder if it is because they are not active enough for him to really build a career?
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>>9640383
He is in another band now. So Im thinking he will be focusing on that more than Jupiter. It will still be sad to see him go though. I really did like his voice.
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>>9640910
What other band? Somehow I had missed that.
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>>9640925
U.S.A., his name is Zack in that band.
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>>9641130
Do you have an OHP link? Even googling in Japanese does not bring up anything because the name is too ambiguous
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>>9641683
In pretty sure they have a twitter account. I know Zin was posting about it on both his twitter and instagram account
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>>9641795
Yeah, they are on twitter. Try looking for USA_officialYES
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>>9603863

I don't think it's all three. If the story about Kami's death and funeral are true, there's no way Gackt would ever consider performing with Malice Mizer again or Mana and Kozi wanting him to perform with them. Why would Mana ask Klaha over Tetsu? He seemed like a nice humble guy, but there was nothing special about him. When it came to vocals, Tetsu was passionate and Gackt was amazing. Klaha didn't have much power behind his voice and didn't have much of a presence on stage...

>>9610613

>"I'll catch you in my Moitie bag!"
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>>9648009
>If the story about Kami's death and funeral are true

what story?
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>>9648015

Gackt didn't find out about Kami's death until after his funeral.

http://gackt-vanilla.tripod.com/id46
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>>9648009
Dude Tetsu's vocals sounded terrible with the backing music, like a dying cat. He sounds great with other bands but in MM is well....terrible. just terrible
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>>9649033

He's really improved over the years since his malice mizer days. I'd like to see how he would sound now with them.
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>>9648973
>http://gackt-vanilla.tripod.com/id46
I never actually knew that. I'd be pissed as hell, too. That's super fucked up.
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Any gulls going to see Versailles in Toronto? I'm driving in from 5 hours away, but I think it's worth it.
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>>9651473
I'll be there!
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>>9651473
They were awesome in the uk this year
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>>9652316
God, I can't believe anyone ever thought that looked good
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>>9640383
>Jupiter is basically HIZAKI GRACE PROJECT 2.0 by now
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>>9649033
>Tetsu sounds like a dying [insert animal]
I thought this meme was already dead.

Tetsu was the best lyricist of Malice Mizer, and an awesome vocalist in his own way. If you think Tetsu sounds bad, you're just not used to listening to much goth rock and post-punk, I'm afraid.
Have you ever heard Gackt trying to sing Tetsu songs? They're on youtube and it's laughable.
The only Tetsu songs Gackt was able to sing well were the studio-recorded ones (ma cherie, shi no buto, tsuioku no kakera, etc), but that was because mana and kozi did the correspondent key changes so Gaku could sing them, but still I prefer Tetsu's Ma cherie over Gackt's.
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>>9648973
I ones saw an interview with Gackt, were he said that he could feel something had happened with Kami. And then the day later he heard that Kami had died. Which gave me the idea he already know about Kami the day after he died.
I believe it was the same video in which he visits Kami’s parents.
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Anyone attending one of the We are X screenings with Yoshiki?
I will attend the one in Amsterdam again.
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>>9657766
Ask him when the new X album will be released.
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>Ask him when the new X album will be released.

Are you still holding out hope Anon?
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>>9657766
Yoshiki has to have some kinda god complex with how he talks in interviews, that documentary is hilarious
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>>9657762
Gackt's always claimed he's had some kind of supernatural sixth sense due to him almost dying as a child. He likely felt something was wrong but hindsight is 20/20 and all that. He could have known something felt odd but I doubt he actually knew Kami died because otherwise he would have attended the funeral. I mean the man makes yearly visits to his grave and visits Kami's parents.

>tfw you watch video of hide's funeral procession once or twice a year
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>>9659032
He is a god. Visual kei-god.
X started it so...
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>>9648973
I thought it was a combination of Kami's funeral being held rather quickly and Gackt being busy with getting promo stuff ready for Vanilla. I wouldn't doubt that Mana straight up didn't tell him out of spite tho.
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>>9660181
These guys are the absolute best. The music is wild but they're definitely my top pick in VK just for their charity efforts.
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>>9660750
I've been wanting to see them live for so long! Each time they have announced a show near me, it just wasn't a good time. I'm hoping the next time will be the charm.
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>>9661111
If you're near North Carolina they come to our local big convention nearly every year to perform. I think they've been here 4-5 times now.
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>>9661508
Ill be sure to go down and see them next year if they are announced again!




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