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Old thread: >>9593592

New to j-fashion? Ever wanted to ask a simple question that seems so obvious to other people? This is your chance to ask.
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I'll start:

How do I see whether a blouse is suited for gothic or not? What makes them special in their own way compared to sweet and classic?
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>>9620941
Classic and sweet tend to feature Peter Pan collars, accents with sweet themes (heart and star buttons, custom lace with similar feels, etc.), more ribbons, a wider variety of colors, etc. Gothic, imo, is more pared down and features more neutral themes and colors, and high, square, or pointed collars are much more common.
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>>9620941
Gothic blouses are usually (not always) more mature looking than sweet blouses. The lines are sharper and cleaner, and they're usually just a lot simpler looking. You will see a lot of high necked collars, pointed collars, and square collars...round collars or peter pan collars can still work (look at old Moitie blouses for example) but they aren't as common. In general the details are just smaller and more toned down - you won't see those gigantic peter pan collars or piles of bows everywhere.

A lot of classic blouses still work well with gothic, but there are some differences. For example, you'll rarely see thick torchon lace on a gothic blouse.
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Can i wear menhera without using pastel colors and would it still be menhera?
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Are there any japanese shopping services that I can use for Fril, that don't require me to wait for an answer or confirmation, and lose out on an item?
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>>9621018
Tenshi seems to be faster than any other SS I've used for fril. Honestly though, there's no way to avoid having to wait for your SS have to manually place the order.
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>>9621018
On that note,who is the cheepest SS for fril? I've used te Tenshi, and loved her, but is anyone else less expensive?
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Is Axes Femme a plus size friendly brand?

What are some other good casual japanese shops similar to DreamV/Yumetembo?
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>>9621036
>Is axes plus sized
I have a 96 cm bust and buy a lot of my shirt there, but I'd guess ~25% will work up to my bust size. Also, my waist is 64cm and all of my second hand shirred skirts very from "plenty of room" to "comically large to the point where I can't wear them."

does that help?
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>>9621068
My measurements are a bit bigger than yours so I'm probably going to stay away from the gamble. Thank you.
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What are the best taobao lolita brands? I've been transitioning to being a full time lolita and have been looking to pad out my closet with a couple of good pieces
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>>9622137
Dear Celine, Krad, Inori, Little Dipper is pretty solid too
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>>9620892
Did you not see >>9606743 or did you think it's necessary to have another thread for especially dumb questions?
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>>9620994
Yeah. There's tons of black/red/white themes in Menhera. Check out the threads and do some pick/choosing.
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>>9621032
Japonica maybe? But they ask for like 500¥ per item it's super annoying. Also past 6000¥ you have to use ems
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>>9622384
fyi japonica market isn't taking new customers at the moment
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>>9622271
I didn't see that thread.
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What are some nice fashion magazines to check out for a girl or casual style? I suppose leaning a bit towards "otome-kei". My favorite brand is Axes Femme, if that helps.
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>>9622837
JFashion or otherwise? Kera is always a good place to start, in general.
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>>9622841
Yeah, J-fashion. I'm looking for a girly style that is more wearable daily, close to vintage stuff, which is why I mentioned Otome. Thanks anon. If anyone could reccomend me some issues too, that would be great.
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>>9622859
Try hitting up the casual cute thread. They may have suggestions, or at least be able to say where they get their inspo
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>>9621036
Yes
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>>9622837
Eternita, some Spoon issues
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>>9622861
Thank you, I'll ask around.
>>9622895
Oh Eternita seems right up my alley, I am looking for more mature styles. Is there only one issue out?
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>>9622940
Yeah, I'm sure they want to make more issues as their social media is still active but maybe the first one didn't sell that well? The founder used to be a GLB editor and also does jabberwocky.tokyo though that looks really different from Eternita.
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At what point do things like menhera or gurokawa transition over to pastel goth or soft grunge? Is there a sliding scale? Can someone maybe draw me a timeline or something??
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Can I buy from mercari without SS?
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>>9623185
Not the Japanese version. I supposed it'd be possible to find a buyer that would ship overseas but that seems unlikely.
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Why do people consider bloomers a staple of Lolita? If you're worried your skirt'll fly up just wear boxers, if you need more volume (?) get a better petticoat, if you like the look all power to you, but that doesn't make it anymore of a staple than wearing a wig or wrist cuffs. If there's a proper reason I'm all ears but the those I've heard so far haven't convinced me.
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>>9623225
They aren't? It's pretty much universally acknowledged they exist not to flash people, and if you wear something else like biking shorts or athletic shorts than fine. People like them for the aesthetic, and in old school it can be part of the look to have them peak out the bottom
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>>9623225
Pettis can get scratchy or hot if they're directly against skin. I agree that they're not a staple but I do think they're important
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>>9623210
Guess msging a seller on their fb is kinda weird.
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What style is the dress to the right called?
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>>9623225
I think bloomers as a staple is really a personal choice, but I don't think I ever really feel like a coord is complete without them. They help me feel cute. Plus, they protect your butt from Marilyn Monroe moments, protect your legs from scratchy petticoats, prevent sweaty thigh rub, keep you warmer in the winter, add a miniscule amount of poof, and in some situations, look great when they're just long enough to peek out from under the skirt.
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>>9623298
i'd say they were going for classic lolita but it's a little tacky imo
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>>9623342
Eh, I don't find it tacky at all. It would just need more details added to it to work in real life, like most anime fashion drawings do.

>>9623298
I can't believe I'm not the only one watching this crap
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>>9623225
I never thought there would be a lolita who doesn't wear bloomers. It just seems strange to me.
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Do any busty anons (>100cm) have shop recommendations for blouses?
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>>9621036
To some extent. The bust is quite small though.
My best friend came back with a whole lot of Axes Femme recently and most of it is tight on her bust which is about 90cm.
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>>9623185
No, they will ban foreign addresses and tenso addresses. Especially since you have to know proper keigo, so no.
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Do people wear bloomers when they wear tights?
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>>9623482
I always wear them when I wear a petticoat even on really casual days
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>>9623461
Maxicimam lovely and physical drop
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How far can brand cutsews like this stretch without looking stupid? Can busty people even wear them?
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So I got a rectangle headdress from bodyline, and it Came right out of the packaging looking like this. I can't get the stains to show up as well on the camera as in real life but they're very visible. I tried soaking them in detergend but it didn't help. Any ideas?
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This was posted in one of the Halloween threads and I am DESPERATE to find the nurse version online, but have had no luck anywhere. Any anons have tips or links to similar items?
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>>9623524
Cutsew fabric is like t-shirt fabric, so while they can stretch, some fabric (especially white fabric) will start to look thin. I'm not particularly busty (94 cm) and I have to wear camisoles under two of my cutsews.
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>>9623461

I've got like... a 102cm bust? I browse eBay for gunne sax and other vintage shit.
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>>9623063
at the point where they stop using health related motifs like syringes, band aids and blood etc, and start using creepy motifs like eyeballs, bats and bones
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>>9623698
I actually just bought this earlier today. If I end up not liking it I'll sell it to you-do you have an email I could contact you at?
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>>9623461
I'm 98cm now but I used to be 104cm. Soufflé Song is pretty good for blouses if you're boob-y.
I find Chinese sellers to be roomier in blouses and a good few of them do custom.
I don't know what style you're looking for but Little Dipper's XXL sizes go up to 112cm iirc
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>>9623939
Not sure if bait or not, but my throwaway/seller email is roseteapetals@gmail.com. Do you mind me asking how you found it?
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>>9624023
at 102 cm you can custom size order from souffle songs website. I custom ordered some jsks in fattychan sizes and they came out perfect.
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>>9623482
I don't. At that point the likelihood of flashing anything I would find embarrassing small and I don't feel like wearing another layer. But you do you if you want to I guess
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>>9621018
Not really, a lot of sellers require buyers to message them first or else they might cancel the order. There's going to be a wait time even if you're buying it yourself.
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>>9623482
Not bloomers, but I always wear safety shapewear pants under skirts, since it's very windy where I live. Keeps your bum warm too.
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>>9623532
There is a few things you can do.
1. Try washing them again with something made for stains (here we use stainsalt).
2. Dye them with Ritdye.
3. Cut off the stained part and seal the ends with a lighter.
4. Sew something on top of them (lace, ribbons, rhinestones, embroidery)
5. Take off the entire straps and replace them with new
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>>9624068
It wasn't bait, I know its a pretty odd coincidence so I don't blame you for thinking so. I found it on depop, I've seen one other person selling those aprons before, and I regretted not jumping on it then.
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>>9623532
I've had good results for satin ribbon when soaking it in water mixed with baking powder, maybe you can try that?
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>>9624023
>>9624128
Original anon here. I didn't know SS did custom sizing! Good to know.
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>>9624521
They did for ages and then stopped for some reason, and now have got custom again.
I don't know if it was because they were changing supplier or something but whatever!
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Hello, can anyone identify this blouse for me?
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>>9624756
I think it's from amavel but I could be wrong
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>>9623461
I have blouses from Anna House, Fanplusfriend, Little Dipper, Bodyline, one from Baby with full shirring and some custom made from western indie brands. I don't know why indie brands make jsk often 100cm+ but almost all XL taobao blouses only max 98 cm. I'm not even fat, I'm only tall and busty european girl :'D
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>>9623461
Lady Sloth does custom sizing for no charge and has like a million different colors. I also own a few Baby cutsews that have full shirrring and they look pretty nice. My bust is 106cm for reference. Pic related.
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When should you wear an a line petti and when a bell shaped petti?
>>9622137
To Alice
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>>9625566
Sweet and Gothic are usually cupcake shaped, Classic is often A-line, but it's not always this way and depends on the cut of the dress more than anything. You'll usually be able to tell by looking at the stock photo.
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Are ponytails allowed in lolita, specifically classic? I remember reading a little bit ago that ponytails weren't allowed, and I realized I don't see ponytails all that much. I feel a bit ita now, since I always wear ponytails cause it's what suits my face best :P
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>>9625633
I think that was a thing because ponytails are generally regarded as too simple and casual, but if you have a fringe and wear your hair in a high ponytail with a bow or flower hair comb on it, it could be really cute imo. Even more so if you take the time to curl your hair beforehand, or otherwise style it. You shouldn't just tie your hair in a ponytail and call it a day, basically, you should put a little bit of effort and add details to make it work.
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>>9624408
Depop is actually the last place I would have thought to look, good find!
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>>9625566
Depends on the style of the dress/skirt and the cut of it.
A line works really well for Gothic & Classic but sometimes also for Sweet (usually the more old school styled pieces).
I find highwaisted cuts usually work better with a-line for example.
Same goes for cupcake or bell, usually used for Sweet but sometimes works really well for Gothic.
Sometimes an A-line petti works nice under a cut intended for a cupcake, but cupcakes generally look awful under cuts intended for a-line pettis because the skirt isn't full enough and don't have the rounded appearance at the hem if that makes any sense?

This post http://thelolitaguidebook.tumblr.com/thebasics could be very useful for you anon.
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>>9624756
Amavel, though there are a lot of taobao replicas floating around. Check the tag while buying.

>>9625566
You can usually tell when you actually wear a bell or A-line with your dress. A bell will make it look overstuffed at the top if it's meant to be a-line, and a-line will make the top look deflated/flat if it's meant to be bell.
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>>9623698
Mintkismet is selling one at her storenvy
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For lack of a better thread I'm asking here
What are some brands that are really on trend? I can only think of Jouetie and Bubbles
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>>9628550
On trend for what
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>>9620892

If I'm trying to wear lolita as a daily fashion and my coords are very simplistic, is it alright to style my natural hair or do I need to invest in a few fashion wigs?
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>>9628550
There are many different brands, anon, you gotta be more specific.

>>9628685
Absolutely! Wear your natural hair if you like. It feels strange to say this to be honest, natural hair used to be a much more common sight in lolita, at least online. But yes, wigs are almost never mandatory.
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>>9628685
I'd find a couple easy ways to do your natural hair. I'm a personal fan of braids because I can do them quickly and add a bow or hat with relative ease.
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>>9628685
I've never worn a wig in my life, natural hair is completely fine
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>>9628686
Honestly the only place I see a lot of lolitas with wigs is cgl and CoF. They aren't popular in my comm at all and in magazines it's mostly natural hair too.
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>>9628716
Same with my comm, it's why I specified
>at least online
It's just that you see it so often online that people tend to get the wrong impression, that wigs are a must. Newbies who buy a wig before a petticoat baffle me.
>t. cranky oldfag
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Maybe this isnt the right thread, but im wondering if anyone has had sucess starting bids very low ($1) on lacemarket. I'm wondering if visability in lm is too low to do this kind of thing.
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>>9628716
Magazines tend to use a lot of hair pieces with natural hair
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What was the name of the futuristic kei again? I forgot. Could someone start a thread for it again I could use some help finding cool tops?
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>>9628889
Uchuu kei?
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If Listen Flavor t-shirts are about $40 on their site, how much should I be able to sell a new one with tags for?
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I want to get into sweet lolita, but I don't want to buy new shoes for every color dress I buy. Is there a suggested color of shoes I can buy for sweet lolita?
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>>9629303
i would try to get like pink shoes and white shoes you can't go wrong with maryjanes
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I keep forgetting. What is that symbol used in menhera called that looks like the star of david but isnt? Something- crest?
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>>9629358
Hexagram? Or an octagram?
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>>9629303
Basic lolita advice is to start with a base color of your choice (white, cream, black, etc) and one or two main colors (sax, navy, lavender, etc).

White and a main color of your choice will do you well in sweet.

here is a good post on basic wardrobe building techniques that taks about color choices by style
http://fyeahlolita.blogspot.com/2012/05/building-complete-lolita-wardrobe.html?m=1
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>>9629709
sorry, ant pic
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>>9629358
Kagome Crest.
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Advice for transitioning a wardrobe from sweet to classic and a little gothic? I'm tired up cupcake life.
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>>9629788
Trades? Maybe there is someone out there who wants to transition from gothic to sweet.
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Not necessarily specific to this thread but don't see anything better.

I'm a dude looking to show off some crossplay thigh. Sick of ingrown hairs so I'm trying to just wear nude tights. Any suggestions on what to look for that will look the most natural?
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>>9629795
Dance tights. They're thick, so they'll last for a while. If you can, look at tights in person in a dance store or buy them online at a place with a good return policy.
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is there like, some unspoken rule or guideline of what color wristcuffs you should wear with your coord? should I match the blouse, the lace in the dress? say I was wearing an old school b/w dress with a white blouse, would white wristcuffs be best in this case?
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>>9630254
I think you're overthinking this anon. You shouldn't have to ask questions like this, especially when you're talking about a BxW outfit. It ain't that deep
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If this isn't the right place to ask that just ignore this but I was wondering if there were any good brands (indie or normal) that sell decent plus sized lolita? I'm new and wanna get into the fashion but have no idea where to start/look.
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I've only recently gotten into Lolita, I've always casually loved the fashion, but I want to try it for myself, but where should I start? Some of it all seems so confusing!
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What's the etiquette on Lacemarket when it comes to leaving feedback? I bought something for the first time and have since received and left feedback about a week ago. Haven't gotten anything in return from the seller.
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>>9630368
http://www.maxicimam.com
Especially their Lovely line is big. They are also sold on cdjapan. I know their stock photos don't look the most appealing but the clothes are nice irl. They also have a lot of solids and causal things good for beginners.

>>9630369
What part is confusing to you? >>9629709 posted a good guide.

>>9630409
Message her you're new so you really want to build up feedback or something.
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>>9628988
$30?
Depends on where you're selling, too. I find depop pretty good for selling jfashion items outside of lolita, both in terms of interest and the prices you can sell for.
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>>9620892
>What is an ita bag, and why is it called that?
>How do I use the archives
>Is it worth spending the money on an SS for AP online or just use a forwarding service.
>Does Antaina take a really long time to process shoe orders?
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>>9630369

Here’s the Lolita handbook: http://lolita-handbook.livejournal.com/

Here’s the Lolita Guidebook: http://thelolitaguidebook.tumblr.com/

The older handbook is much easier to read, and I still recommend it for a faster, easier overview of the fashion (along with the Wikipedia page on Lolita). As for the guidebook, bookmark it so that you can come back and look up stuff later, I don’t suggest reading it all in one go.

For communities, make a facebook and join rufflechat and closet of frills (and that other daily lolita group). Blogs, I recommend lolita tips (http://lolita-tips.tumblr.com/) as someone helpful to newbies, and rolli’s ramblings (http://rolisramblings.blogspot.my) writes a blogpost roundup, which is a nice way to discover what other girls are doing.

As for actually building a wardrobe, there’s a lot of different approaches. My suggestion is to simply take the plunge and go for ONE single coherent outfit, with a dress that you actually like, in a colour you love. Once you get that on, you can judge for yourself whether you actually like wearing it, or it’s great but you’d rather wear another substyle/colour/theme/cut, or you like everything and want more of it. When you’ve got a few of these things figured out (like whether you like skirts, your preferred colourways, etc), then it becomes much easier to start envisioning what kind of wardrobe you *really* want, instead of what you imagine you want based on some internet chat, and to build towards it.

It’s pretty much a cycle of shopping, coording and meetups after that. If you have trouble building your wardrobe you could look up fyeah lolita, who has a few blogposts on it, or you could look up how to build a capsule wardrobes and apply that to lolita. I’d say pretty much the first one or two years is going to be about finding out what you actually like, so you might end up buying and selling stuff, it should be much smoother sailing after that.
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>>9630454
The tumblr lolita guidebook is not that good though, there are a lot of biases
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>>9630454
Shopping:

Forwarding service: Tenso.com receives a parcel on your behalf and then forwards it to you. They’re good for clickwar bloodbaths because you don’t need to wait for someone to buy it for you. However, if the shop does not accept foreign credit cards/has Tenso blocked then you can’t use Tenso.

A shopping service (SS) means a Japanese buys the stuff in their name then ships it to you. Shopping services:
- Buyee
- Fromjapan
- Zenmarket
- White Rabbit
- Celga
- Rinkya
- Japonica

Japanese brands you can buy direct from
- btssb/aatp (www.babyssb.co.jp)
- Metamorphose (metamorphose.gr.jp/online-shop)
- h.Naoto international (world.kincs.ws)
- Innocent World (innocent-w.jp/onlineshop)
- Juliette et Justine (juliette-et-justine.com)
(Note: some of them need you to set to English)

The following need Tenso :
- Angelic Pretty (angelicpretty-onlineshop.com)
- Moi Meme Moitie (moi-meme-moitie.shop-pro.jp)

The following need SS:
- Victorian Maiden (victorianmaiden.com)

Japanese budget (varying quality) - Bodyline
- bodyline.co.jp
- www.rakuten.ne.jp/gold/bodyline

Some shops are on rakuten.jp, you can use Tenso for them.
CDJapan (cdjapan.co.jp) carries Maxicimam and Moitie, is in English and ships worldwide
Putumayo is at putumayo-home.com

Korean:
- Haenuli (haenuli on FB)
- Lief (lief.co.kr on FB)

Taobao shops: look on lolitaupdates group on FB.

Taobao resellers:
- Glitzy in Wonderland
- Clobba
- my-lolita-dress.com
- lolitawardrobe.com

Western secondhand:
- egl.circlly.com
- egl-comm-sales.livejournal.com

Japanese secondhand:
- category.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/list/アンジェリック-プリティ-あ-ブランド別-ファッション/2084229923/?select=22&p=アンジェリック+プリティ
- www.mbok.jp/(search by brand name)
- fril.jp
- mercari
Note: the last two are Japanese phone apps, the website is often cited as being slow to update.

Taobao secondhand:
- 2.taobao.com
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>>9630456

Yea, I saw the argument over blouse vs non blouse, and it was written at a time when everyone was giving taobao the side eye since taobao still sucked at that time.

Can't really think of a place where something basic like lolita outfit anatomy is laid out for newbies to look up, though. Except the Lolita Handbook, and that thing is already a decade old.
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>>9630476
I don't have time to look for scans now but Kera and GLB have had pages about the "anatomy" of a lolita coord a bunch of times and Misako made a book for beginners.

About the tumblr guidebook, I find it a bit ironic that a lot of gulls recently complain that newbies don't treat lolita as a fashion and focus too much on the rules, when the guidebook with the most rules was made by cgl.
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What stores have the fastest international shipping?
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>>9630490
??? In what country are you even, and what are you looking to buy? Think before you post
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>>9630483

That's the trouble with Kera/GLB/Misako scans, they're always "somewhere" and someone always has to "find them later".


The rules are fashion rules, not school rules. Let the newbies follow the rules, it's not like we don't already have enough itas breaking them as it is.
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>>9630505
What are you talking about? That guidebook is full of opinions disguised as rules, it reads as if it was written to feel superior instead of to inform. Looking at Kera and GLB would actually be useful for newbies.
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>>9630509

You make a good point.

Do post the Kera GLB scans when you find them.
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Can I get any advice on how to best sell Lolita stuff I don't want anymore? Most of it is Bodyline and I don't feel like people will buy these pieces.
I don't have any feedback of selling and not much for buying on lacemarket, either.
(I haven't had the time to do a collage of the pieces and I don't wanna shit up the thread with pics)
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>>9630522
Start an auction with $1 and re-post the lacemarket url to the facebook groups
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>>9630470
I can't believe no one responded to this. Thank you so much for the insanely helpful post!
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What is a swap meet?
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>>9630599
Where you trade, kind of like a bring & buy
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>>9630525
Thanks, anon.
The things have been sitting in my closet for way too long and I'd be happy to have a few extra bucks.
Is it better to upload individual pictures or a collage when posting the link to Facebook?
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>>9630619
It depends on the rules of the sales group, but if you upload individual pictures people might try to bid in the fb comments
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Are all Victorian style boots upwards of $100? The cheaper ones I have seen are...really cheap looking.
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>>9630619
>>9630628

To add on, I would say have one collage of everything you're selling, then individual pictures with details, info etc. Fb is really slow for me on image heavy pages so being able to see everything at once first thing makes it easier.
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How do you access Hudie.com?
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>>9630628
>>9630632
Thanks, I'll keep it in mind.
I'll look at other sales posts for reference, too.
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Has angelic pretty ever put out a blanket or throw of some kind?
Or any other brand?
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>>9630630
I think you answered your own question. Nice ones are expensive, cheap ones don't look as nice. Try looking for the brand or style you like on ebay or poshmark or whatever for cheaper, used nice ones.
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So a few questions: how does Tenso work? Do I need to email them that I made a purchase that will arrive in a few months? When it does arrive to them, will they email me to pay shipping or will they auto-charge my credit card? Is there anything that could go wrong that I should be prepared for?
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>>9630700

You just ship it to your Tenso address. They use the T-xxxxx number in it to match your package up with your name, then they'll register the parcel and it will show up on your My Page. When you arrange to have it forwarded to you they will calculate and charge shipping and handling fees, after you've paid they'll ship it out.

Your first package needs to be to the address you used to verify your identity, so use something with an address you can actually receive stuff at.

Japan Post won't touch anything with alcohol (flammable), not even empty perfume bottles. So be careful with toiletries.

Some things like books (GLB/Melt/Eternita) and canned drinks/food can be really heavy. Books I'd recommend buying direct from Amazon.jp instead of through Tenso/rakuten.

What else. Ah, everything between checking out and Tenso is up to you to handle. Use google translate and buy responsibly. Do not accidentally check out with Cash on Delivery, it's the reason Ailand (Liz Lisa) has blocked Tenso addresses completely, too many noobs did that. Also do not bother trying Tenso with IW's Japanese site or Btssb, they want payment via Japanese bank methods. Not every site will accept foreign CC.

A minor gripe, but they seem to overcharge the weight. Packages that are under 200g on one site will end up on Tenso as over 200g. I find this really annoying, but if you want to use them for whatever reason you'll have to make your peace with it, or find another service.

>>9630678

JetJ has a lap blanket of their library print and another of some pink cherubs.

Btssb has an Usakumya hoodie-shawl-lap blanket in one of their mooks. Actually they also have a white Usakumya blanket shawl hoodie thing up right now, if you want to count that.

I also once came across a taobao shop that was half filled with printed blankets and one lolita actual print dress release. Not sure if that counts.
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>>9630528

Glad you found it useful. I worried it's too big a chunk of text, and it's still pretty incomplete -- I forgot to put in Closet Child, fururun, Wunderwelt, Tokyo Alice and some other secondhand shops. Also, Rakuten has its own forwarding service apparently, but I haven't tried it out and have no idea how/if it works. Hope it works as a good starting point for those looking for shops though.
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>>9630700
You don't need to notify tenso that you bought something, they know it's "you" by a number in the address. They'll email you that they received it once it's there. From there you pay shipping based on whatever shipping method you want/when you're ready. You can also consolidate packages but they charge 500 yen(I think?) to do it. I've never had a problem using tenso but I don't use it too much.
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>>9630700
Once you've registered and have obtained your address you can use it for shopping straight away. You don't need to do anything until they email you that they've received your package. At this point you can either have it shipped to yourself straight away (at which point you'll pay for shipping + Tenso's usage fee, they will not charge you beforehand) or wait until you have a few more packages to consolidate them into a single one.

The only thing you have to be mindful of is making sure you put the address in correctly, really.
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>>9630719
>>9630725
What do you normally use?
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>>9630728

>>9630719 here. Still Tenso for AP. Japonica for other things. Though I should mention brand hasn't released many things I like lately so I actually haven't bothered buying much this year.
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>>9630728
I'm >>9630725
Should've clarified that I don't use a forwarding service much (like tenso), I use shopping services a lot more (zenmarket). I also buy from places that ship internationally (Wunderwelt, closet child, amiami) but I've used tenso for ordering from AP, IW, rakuten, and kotobukiya for example.
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How do I successfully mix styles without becoming ita?
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>>9624181
>>9624411
Thanks for the tips! everything came out with regular stain remover in the end
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>>9630719
>>9630725
>>9630727

Thanks, gulls, much appreciated!

One more question. Does Sheglit take international credit cards when using a forwarding service? My order seemed to go through just fine but I don't want to be surprised by a sudden cancelation after pre-order ends.
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>>9630763
Know the basics before you try experimenting, and start slow. Classic/gothic is easy, as is sweet/classic to some degree. If you try to run before you learn to crawl you'll fall right on your face.
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How good/bad is the English of the an*tai*na staff? there's this shoe I want that comes in 2 heel sizes, and every color comes in these two sizes except for the one color/heel combo I want. Will they understand if I try to make a custom order for them? Or do I need a shopping service to translate for me?
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>>9630630
Try to look for secondhand vintage ones instead of brand new high end boots. That way they're durable and good quality but you don't pay full price. Some thrift shops also have good stuff for this.
I recently got a pair of long Victorian boots with a heel similar to your picture from a secondhand online market for 20$. They look unworn, too.
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Best way to play down giant shoulders in lolita? I'm smallish (33-24-36) but have a linebacker-tier 20" shoulderspan. I'm small enough that most burando fits me anyway, but mostly look really awkward or way bigger than i actually am. I rarely wear puff sleeves already but what are some other ways to play down the linebacker look?
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>>9630630
Pay the money. I have a pair of leather Victorian style boots I got when Victoriana was in fashion back in 2006. I've had them reheeled twice but they are still going strong in every other way and I love them to death.
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>>9630900
Those off-shoulder chiffon blouses that you can wear under JSK's should help + petti poof.
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What are your favorite indie brands that lean towards classic? I've been looking towards buying something from an indie store, but it's honestly so overwhelming.
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>>9631000
Rosa Bianca, Sincerely, Bullion
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>>9630840

They're fine. I did a custom order and all emails were in English. I did use photos/photoshop to show what I wanted though.

The shipping fees are more of a killer to be honest.
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So I understand 19ninety-six is pretty much only a pre-order site. I don't need my lenses in a rush, I'm just uncertain when I'll actually get them. I placed an order with them a few months ago. Tried to check the order status page, didn't see my order number in there at all (my order number starts with 108 and the highest number they have there starts with 107)
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Does anyone know what brand this romper thing is from?
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I bought my first tea length skirt, and I am looking for a petticoat. I have my eye on this Malco Mode one, Cosette.

It doesn't seem very poofy though. I am okay with minimal poof, but is there a standard for poof on tea length dresses?
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>>9631555
Tea length dresses don't normally require a huge amount of poof because that'd make them look too much like ballgowns plus the amount of fabric usually doesn't allow it. That petticoat looks okay, but I'd go for a slightly shorter one.
I even found that some more normie rockabilly-length pettis work for long lolita dresses and skirts.
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>>9620892
I'm US size 12/14 and because of my shoulders and ribcage /height could never go below a 10
Should I just not even bother
[spoiler] yes I am tranny
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>>9631555
It looks like a longer version of the model they (used to?) refer to as 580. Its poof is very moderate which is fine for longer dresses, like >>9631562 said. Just make sure that it's shorter than your dress by about 2" so it doesn't peek.
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>>9631569
Are you talking about shoes? Or clothing size? There are custom made shoes, and many styles can be adapted to flatter people of various sizes. I don't think you should just give up, whatever difficulty you may have will often have a solution.
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>>9631577
Clothing, shoes I'm size 10/11 US and can find stuff if I look a little. Mostly wo dering if I can even think about j fashion as a sorta chubby 5'10 rectangle
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>>9631582
Well Jfash is a very broad term, depends on what style you prefer. Obviously you can wear what you want but you should look for aesthetics that flatter you if you want to look good. What style are we talking about, then?
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>>9631590
I'm literally brand new to this so idek
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>>9631569
Measurements?
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>>9631595
Well then you should look around and see what you like. This is a surprisingly comprehensive list of styles: glitter-puffs@blogspot.com/2012/12/all-japanese-fashion-styles.html I've only read it briefly just now and it's from 2012 so not absolutely up to date but it seems pretty good.
This article is newer and quite informative if you want more information about Jfash these days: https://medium.com/@TokyoFashion/japanese-street-fashion-2017-15-things-you-need-to-know-ab06eabfca39
That's what I got off the top of my head. Like I said, just look around, see what catches your eye and looks like something you'd want to try.
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>>9631598
Don't have everything since >work, but off the top of my head hip is 85, waist is 80, and bust is 96. Height is 177, and other length measurements are average proportioned for my weight
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>>9631601
Sorry for the wonky blogspot url by the way, 4chins thinks it's spam.
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>>9631595
literally what the fuck? if you have zero interest in fashion why do you want to do this to yourself and us?
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>>9631611
Zero experience != zero interest
Since I'm new to being decent enough looking to not want to die looking at myself in cute clothes, I'm only now able to start getting into the hobby.
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>>9631629
>the hobby
and what hobby is that? you don't even know which fashion you like, as long as it's japanese
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Taobao brands to avoid?
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>>9631633
Alright, I'll come back in a week or so when I come up with more details and you forget about me. Sorry for wasting your time
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>>9631635
There are a lot of Japanese fashions with very different silhouettes. Browse some street snaps and fashion mags like Kera, and find some examples of what appeals to you. It's easier to help if we have any sort of frame of reference.

Also, you're anon here, no need to be dramatic! No one will care if you post again today, even less in a week.
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>>9631645
The difference between you being helpful and the other anon being typical 4chan is killing me
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>>9631635
the anon you're responding to sounds like a huge bitch, you shouldn't mind them or apologize
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is there a differance between igari make up and larme make up? bc it looks pretty the same to me
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>>9631664
I know this is the dumb questions thread but did you expect us to list every Japanese clothing item currently available that fits a US 12/14?
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>>9631634
There are too many to name specifics and many hidden gems so I'll just give you some basic rules of thumb
1. Never order anything that has no rank unless you're okay with a huge gamble
2. Always look for reviews. Even if you can't understand everything, you can generally tell if they were good or bad
3. Never go to a store that has a rating of less than 4.3
4. You really do get what you pay for more often than not
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>>9631736
Tbh I wasn't even sure there would be any japanese stuff for a chub fucking tranny like me, just that confirmation was what I needed
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Been lurking a bit, seems like fat = ita automatically. Is it just 4chan being 4chan or is it just super hard to make things work right when you're bigger?
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>>9631796
it's ita if your clothes don't fit
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>>9631796
A little of both, desu.

4chan will hate on someone just because they're fat when a skinny person wearing the same coord will get a pass.

But at the same time, japanese sizing is super restrictive (and Japanese women tend to wear their weight differently), so if you're set on classic Japanese fashion brands, it will take a significant amount of work to find things that are fully shirred, made from stretchy fabrics, etc etc etc.

If you're ok with branching out to non-Japanese brands and/or paying more, lots of taobao brands will make custom sizes, and I've seen some indie brands start to venture into plus sizes. The flipside is that it's then hard to find any of this stuff second-hand
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>>9631802
>59 inch
Are people actually that fat what the fuck I feel hideous as a 38
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>>9631755
There's some. Do you want lolita, or something like nanchatte which is uniforms style? Fairy kei? Those all habe thin people and way fatter people. Fairy kei has a ton of chubby non gender conforming people, I'm not saying that in a mean way. There are a bunch! Look through the threads for different fashions and see what you like.
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>>9631796
>>9631803
A little of both, some people hate fat people. But it's harder to make some things look good if you're fatter and/or busty. I'm chubby, I see girls on the ita thread with their boobs hanging below the waistband of the skirt, i don't understand how they don't see that and change clothes. But if you're small and can easily find cute clothes that fit properly is easier than having to be pickier.
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>>9631755
Calling yourself a tranny sounds passive aggressive desu.

Being trans isn't going to stop you from looking good in a fashion, but it seems like most mtfs never gave a shit about clothes until they started transition so their fashion choices are terrible.

Fairy kei is full of fakebois. Never seen any mtfs in the fashion which is weird now that I think about it.
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>>9631831
It's 4chan, the mtfs who end up here are all self hating, including me

Yeah, thanks for the advice, I'll look into fairy kei and lolita, the latter of which is what I had in mind anyway~

And your thing about mtfs (and most ftms, too, though some are different) and clothes is spot on for me. I tried a cute andro thing for a few years in high school, but it was all "kid who doesn't know fashion trying to look not super masc" tier anyway. Got a huge affection for scarves and bows, at least.
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>>9631814
holy god I feel the same way
like, a 55" waist is huge... I feel like a landwhale with a 34" waist, although I do have body dysmorphia lmao
and I'm short, which makes things proportionately weird... but I can't even visualise what someone with a 55" waist would look like in lolita desu
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>>9620892
I need help finding bottoms that match this shirt I bought.
I really like the neckline how it's a cross between sexy and cute but I can't find anything for the life of me that matches due to the color and style combination.
I'm into larme kei if that helps, thanks gulls!
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>>9632325
Oh also I need an undershirt for it that has a similar neckline and looks good under it but I can't seem to find anything frilly or lacy with a sweetheart neckline
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What lolita magazines are still in print? I know that Kera and GLB are both defunct, and even though I was never huge on magazines,but I think I'd like to try it out.
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>>9631908
Thanks for sharing
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>>9632357
I believe Girlism is still going strong, and there's also Eternita and Melt but each of those has only one volume so far. I don't have Girlism but I do own the others, as well as a few GLBs, very recommended if you like looking at printed material as inspiration.
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>>9620892
What's the most normie-friendly jfashion style? I think it would either be casual seifuku (preppy) or mori (boho).
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>>9632942
Larme probably. Most pieces on their own are pretty normie, a lot of it is in the makeup and styling
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>>9632959
>>9632942
Yeah, Larme and Mori.
>>9632357
Kera still does the same in their online version.
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>>9632942
Mode
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Where do I get lolita shoes when my foot size is 10 US in women's?
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>>9630719
Ailand is Ank Rouge, Cecil McBee etc. not Liz Lisa.
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>>9632329
How hard are you trying?
My suggestion would be a very fitted black pencil skirt, maybe you can diy some corset details in ribbon that matches the top. A fluffy bag might be nice or fluffy shoes that match the color of the top.
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I have big feet (Size 11 US) any gulls have site recommendations for larme-kei 2-3 inch heels?
Bonus points if the heels are not black!
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What fake lashes do people like to buy/wear? I have no idea what's quality.
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What petticoat do I wear with a sack dress? I've seen lolitas wear them without one at all, and I think it looks better. I got my first sack dress, and it looks like I'm floating in a tent with a petti.
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>>9633464
A-line, but if it looks better without petti you should go with that
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>>9633444
A variety of brands seem to be popular but I know dolly wink gets mentioned a lot
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Hello all!

I really want to buy this galaxxxy cardigan but I have no idea how to purchase through the Japanese website or if that's even possible. I've never purchased anything overseas before so I don't really know anything about the shipping services either.

I am excited to learn and get into j-fashion
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Probably a really dumb question, but I've been wondering for a while.
Cutsew JSK's are fine with lolita, even if they are very plain, but at what point does it be okay to wear what looks like a fancy skater dress? If you have a skater dress and it's sufficiently fancy/ tailored to fit the lolita aesthetics, does that become okay to wear with lolita?
I know a lot of skater dresses now days are made out of swimsuit material, but ignoring those as I'm talking about the nicer cotton ones, coz I've owned nice cotton skater dresses and I've seen some smaller brands releasing cutsew JSKs that look like a skater dress with cotton lace. A bit confused about where the line is drawn.
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>>9634615
I would skater dresses are too short for Lolita. If you put a petti underneath, even a small one, the skirt portion will be very short or you will see the petti peaking underneath. There is just not enough fabric at the skirt/bodice intersection to give it a proper silhouette if that makes sense. But that's just my take.
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>>9634623
That's a fair point for most people, I am quite short though so I didn't think of that lol
Thanks for your opinion anon :)
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Do classic lolitas typically wear wrist cuffs?
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>>9634644
That's a really general question, it depends entirely on one's personal style. There are classic styled wrist cuffs of course.
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>>9630724
If it's changed, I'm sorry, but last time I checked, Rakuten were recommending Tenso. A lot of shops on Rakuten actually ship overseas though and you can filter your searches specifically for stores that also ship overseas.
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>>9630840
They're fine, but I would never ever order directly from them again because the shipping is more expensive than the shoes themselves. I'm sure you will actually come out cheaper when using a shopping service
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>>9633464
I use an A-line petti with really little poof and bloomers. That way the dress neither just hangs down nor makes you look like a walking christmas tree.
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Okay- I am definitely VERY new and trying to figure everything out so please don't rip me a new one but do you think from this photo that this is actually the AP Glass Doll OP? I only am worried because the bow at the waist seems smaller than the pictures I see on Lolibrary.
I could totally be freaking out for no reason but I hope it's real because I really want to buy it!
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>>9634703
looks the same to me.
there were 2 versions of glass doll.
looks like the 2013 ver
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>>9634703
Well it did have a much smaller bow in the original release: https://lolibrary.org/items/ap-glass-doll-op
Is it on Lacemarket? If you're still concerned, ask the seller for more pics, especially of the tags.
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Where can I find a lace underskirt, similar to pic related but with lace frills? There was a gull who posted about wearing lace underskirts apposed to chiffon, as they preferred the overall appearance. I think their underskirt was by VM or IW? I wanted to ask before I commission one.
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>>9634705
>>9634706
Oh! This is great info! I'm attaching the picture they provided of the tag. Also they are asking for $190? That seems pretty respectable to me but my one friend told me that sometimes folks don't know what to charge or pay for when it comes to these kinds of things. Do y'all think that's too much or is it a good price? I'm so scared of spending the wrong amount! Haha!
The person who is selling it bought it for $250 if that helps?
Thank you both again for helping me out!
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>>9634644
Lolitas typically wear them
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>>9634723
It could be a good price depending on the condition. People who don't know what to charge will usually accept offers, you can try that if you want as long as you make a reasonable one.
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>>9634723
I think it's a good price. It looks like a dress you can wear a lot and I assume she bought it new.
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>>9634780
>It looks like a dress you can wear a lot
It's made out of very delicate materials though. It's definitely pretty but just because it isn't printed doesn't mean it can be worn a lot like a cotton dress could be.
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>>9634780
I offered $170 payed today but if she doesn't take that I might just buy it for $190 anyways???
I figured I should at least try for a little cheaper!
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>>9634788
I meant more as in it's versatile. But just because it looks delicate doesn't mean it will be destroyed if you wear it a lot, it's made of polyester and cotton.
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I always just bought JSKs because of their versatility, but lately I'm buying a lot of OPs and I'm having a bit of a hard time coordinating them in different ways.
My boleros don't fit properly over the sleeves of my OPs and my cardigans' sleeves are too tight.
Pics would be appreciated but I'm accepting any tips on how to get the most uses out of an OP.
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Does anyone know affordable Japanese accessory shops?
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>>9634644
They do, but I guess it doesn't match classic outfits that lean towards simple or mature.
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>>9634714
Does something like this work for you? It's MeLikesTea. If not, I'm not sure if they do custom stuff but you could always send them an email and ask it to be lace frills only.
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If you buy 5 times the exact same item through zenmarket, do you have to pay their fee 5 times?
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>>9634979
From their website:
>How much do you charge for your service?>We charge only 300 JPY ($3) per item no matter how many of the same item or how expensive the item is that you order. If you buy 3 identical T-shirts, our service fee still will be 300 JPY. But if you buy three T-shirts of different sizes or colors, we will charge the service fee for each of them, 900 JPY in this case.
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I have blue hair and I want to get into jfash again. What kinds of styles would be the easiest to eas in with regardless of my unnatural color?
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>>9635168
Wigs would be a reasonable choice.

Besides that if it is a light blue you can pull from Harajuku-street styles and do the ol bangs and pigtails or puffballs as long as it flatters your head shape. The less electric blue the better. Simple braids would also be fine. Avoid clashing.
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1. I have 38 cm shoulders that aren't THAT wide ,but too wide for many blouses. Taobao brands suggestions(since they have more sizes).
2. What's the difference between a regular release and a special set? I can see with my own two eyes that the dresses are different,but why would they call it "special set" instead of "rerelease"???
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>>9636793
Special sets are usually cheaper and less quality (like lucky packs). They are kind of like the Anne Taylor LOFT of burando
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>>9636793
>>9636803
Special sets also come with an accessory of some sort, AP's come with a matching barrette from what I've seen while Meta's sometime also come with a blouse and socks like a mini lucky pack.
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>>9636793
"Rerelease" implies that you will be getting the exact same dress (same materials and design) that was available originally. Sometimes there are small differences because the original lace, buttons, etc, are not available anymore.
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>>9635168
Jgoth, vkei, jpunk, menhera, uchuu-kei, general Harajuku styles.
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>>9635214
I think electric blue could look great with lolita, is Moitie's signature colour. I love lolitas with "weird" hair colours.
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What shopping service do you guys use to buy from Fril? I keep finding stuff I really like on there but I'm not very use to using shopping services.
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>>9636924
I just use my tenso address and rakuten payment
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>>9636924
Japonica.
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>>9636929
>>9636934
Thank you! I will look into both way and see which I prefer.
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>>9636955
You might want to try Japonica first, they'll refuse to buy from Fril or Mercari for you if you make an account there yourself.
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>>9636957
Alright I'll try there first then. Thanks again!
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>>9636929
How do you communicate with the sellers?
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Is it impossible to buy direct or special order from 3F? I heard you can't contact them anymore.
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>>9620892
Is there ever a time when Tokyo Otaku Mode is cheaper than a SS? I'm seeing it get shilled more and more but every time I add it up it's more expensive and I've seen a lot of complaints about bad packaging. Are people just using it to buy weeb merch and adding in clothing because it's there?
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>>9637534
It depends on your country/currency and the conversion rate plus what you're buying and what discounts you're applying. I've seen a blogger who strips down the costs and shows where there is money saved per purchase.
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>>9637580
Blog name please? I should've remembered about conversion rates and customs and all that.
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>>9637603
I think they're talking about emiii-chan
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>>9637657
Thanks anon, that must be it. Coming from a partner kinda feels like it should be sketchy, but how she wrote it and their responses don't feel like it at all.
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What's the cheapest option to purchase one item from Taobao? I want to purchase a pair of tights from R-Series, but I don't want to get hit with huge shipping fees. There's nothing else I want to purchase. I would order direct from their website, but I'm not paying $45 shipping fees for a pair of tights.
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>>9637666
Yeah the prices are there in every TOM blog post anyway. I don't think anyone would go so far as to fake the numbers on that kind of thing.
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>>9637799
Lolita Wardrobe and other resellers are probably your best bet. But can't you at least buy some accessories to make it worth it anon? Like flowers or a generic headbow.
Aliexpress would be the number one option, but it's hard to find stuff from a specific brand.
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Are there any cool jfashion trends for rougher-looking guys?
I've tried looking it up, but I'm not even sure what to google. I just want to try something a bit different, but there's no way I'm enough of a prettyboy for most of the things I've seen... and definitely not enough of a prettyboy to try to do lolita or anything like that.
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>>9637878
you could probably have figured this out yourself by browsing this board or google, but this is the dumb questions thread so I'll spoonfeed you. Most jfash, even the kind specifically designed for men is rather feminine by western standards, but i'd suggest you look into Aristocrat fashion, Visual Kei, Mori boy, Ouji (which is the masculine counterpart to lolita), as well as japanese punk and street fashion styles but I don't know if there's a particular name for those. Google 'harajuku fashion male' or something similar and you should get a good variety.
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>>9637889
I feel like you didn't even read what I said, if you're going to suggest me Visual Kei as an option.
I said for rougher-looking faces. I'm aware of the things you suggested and I am definitely not suited to them.

At the bottom of this image you will see some examples of my approximate facial type. Aside from being not quite that handsome, that's roughly my type.

You're kinda giving me exactly what I was not looking for.
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>>9637944
What you want literally doesn't exist. Maybe J-goth, but it won't look J-goth on a "rugged white manly man" that won't wear anything vaguely "androgynous". At most you'll just look goth. This man looks amazing imo, but it's just aristocrat and you've already dismissed that. Try going over to fa or looking at historical reproductions instead.
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>>9637944
You think that those bands are flawless androgynous types just naturally?
>what is makeup and skincare
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>>9638004
/fa/ are all androgynous hipster numale types with problem glasses and beards. That's only further off the mark.

>>9638011
I just can't see myself wearing make-up on the regular for street fashion, though. I do like that one you've posted, and this one I've found.
A few of the mori boy things I saw browsing around were kind of interesting, but where does someone even find something like that? I can't tell the knockoffs from the real thing anywhere, and I'm not sure if there's any functional difference.
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>>9638012
Hi, this is the first anon that you shut down and said everything i recommended to you was crap. Seems you finally did some searching on your own and found the variety of styles japan has to offer.

If you're looking to buy, sites like closetchild sell second hand clothes, mostly punk, lolita, gothic aristocrat and more and that will also give you a good idea of the pieces you'll need to build your wardrobe. Mori Boy is a lot easier as it's less confined by rules than say, lolita, the only ones being that natural fabrics, cottons, yarn, is used, preferably as part of the whole outfit but that's up to choice. I'm not sure if there are male equivalents to mori girls shops. honestly, maybe on aliexpress but that's just a guess.But i believe a lot of mori boy stuff could be thrifted if you have the right eye for it.
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>>9638030
>Hi, this is the first anon that you shut down and said everything i recommended to you was crap. Seems you finally did some searching on your own and found the variety of styles japan has to offer.

Nayrt but my word, is your vagina sandy today, Susan.
Calm thy passive-aggressive bitchiness.
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>>9637534
I bought a ton of jfash from there about a year and a half ago when you could still apply your reward points to cover shipping fees.
I stopped buying from them after they closed that loophole, so I haven't checked recently, but they might be slightly cheaper than an SS if you take into account SS fees + whatever you save from TOM's reward points.
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>>9638052
You can't use points on shipping costs? I thought they were just applied to the total?
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>>9637944
So it's because you're old and don't want to properly shave?
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>>9638012
>I just can't see myself wearing make-up on the regular for street fashion
anon, you just sound lazy. if the rest of this board wears makeup and grooms themselves, why shouldn't you?
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>>9638183
men usually don't
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>>9638184
so, you're a whiney bitch who wants to look different but not ~too different~ is what you are saying. this is alt fash. suck it up or wear normie clothes
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>>9638170
I mean... I'm probably younger than the famous vk guys, but my age shows a lot more because of my ethnotype.

But yeah, basically.

>>9638183
Because I'm a man who lives in an east-coast city and don't want to be treated as a pariah, I'm lazy?
I mean, I guess fighting so you don't get the crap kicked out of you by a group of minority gang members is highly active, but I don't think I'd be choosing that.

>>9638199
This post: >>9638184 isn't me, you smug cunt. Stop making such stupid posts if you want to be taken seriously.
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>>9638221
Why do you want to get into jfashion?
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>>9638221
Anon, you are on a board filled with people who go in public in fluffy petticoats in full earnesty. If you're too afraid to wear some foundation and shave, you're going to have a hard time in Jfashion. Sorry we aren't giving you the answer you wanted.
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>>9638228
Just exploring it casually to expand my wardrobe, I guess.
Men's fashion is kind of a crapshoot if you're not into being some kind of sad numale hipster type or outright cross-dressing, and I'm neither of those things, so I'm exploring my options.

>>9638230
I'm not a cross-dresser, friend.
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>>9638236

>>9638230 isn't saying that you need to get into lolita, just that if you're asking for something that doesn't make you stand out you're asking the wrong people. People here are used to their clothing choices being alternative.
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>>9638236
>giving a half a fuck about your appearance is cross dressing
jesus h christ just go buy some mall goth shit from hot topic and leave the grown ups alone
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>>9638240
>not wearing make-up makes you a mall goth
Literally what
Did you miss the part where I'm still a guy?

>>9638238
I don't mind standing out, that's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying I don't want to wear make-up
I find it incredible that this is controversial...?
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>>9638251
Okay, so if you don't like the look of Jfashion and clearly abhor basic requirements of looking good in it, what exactly did you expect to get out of this? What does your magical christmasland fashion look like, and why do you expect to find it here?
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>>9638255
>all men from an entire country must wear makeup
Stop digging
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>>9638236
If it's that simple, just look for Japanese brands you like and buy that. You can buy from visual kei brands without wearing make-up if it pleases you.
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Is there any way to make a jsk's waist larger? I've fallen in love with a dress with a 26 inch waist but mine is 28. I'm 5'9 and 120 lb, so I don't really want to lose any weight.
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>>9638267
You can maybe take it out with extra fabric from a waiste tie or something, but not really.
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>>9638269
That's what I thought, damn. It's pic related...I wish there was another dress that looked like Beatrice's, haha.
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>>9638276
Same, anon, same. Except for its the damn 88cm bust. Guess we can wallow together...
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What are the best places to find affordable goth clothing from brands like alice auaa?
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Where is the best place to buy petticoats at the moment? I see Me Likes Tea has delays listed on the website. (Sorry for adding another petticoat question).
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>>9638940
it depends on your budget. imo moitie and physical drop have the best petticoats. wunderwelt has them secondhand and they also produce their own petticoats.
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>>9638940
h.naoto also has petticoats that can double as skirts
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For shoulder measurements in OPs and blouses,are you supposed to use the measurement from where the "shoulder bone" meets your body trunk/back,or from the outermost part of the arm/shoulder?
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>>9638948
>>9638952
Thanks for the tips gulls, i'll check out physical drop i've heard good things about them.
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What's the best way to use sock glue? I'm just wearing cotton OTKs on bare skin.
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>>9639252
1. Roll up socks to see where they fall
2. Roll top off socks down a little and roll sock glue on
3. Roll tops back up and press down
4.?????
5 Profit.
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The stuff from listen flavor that's gothy, is it just pastel goth? Japanese goth?
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>>9638267
Maybe shapewear?
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Can you purchase preorder/reservation lolita dresses through shopping services, like Yoybuy? Do they charge you the rest of the amount later on?
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>>9639486
Yes most of them you can. How they charge you depends on what service you use though.
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What are some good shops to buy secondhand kimono (and haori)? I'm new to this so it's really overwhelming to look through yahoo auctions.
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Dont know where else to ask this but when did milkboy get so expensive? I used to find printed shirts for 1000-2000 jpy and now those same things are 10000.
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Why are light blue colorways called sax?
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I have an hourglass figure. What are j fash looks that will work for me?
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>>9639872
Its short for Saxony blue
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>>9630678
I have one from Meta but it's really small. I think it's meant to sit on to keep your dress from getting dirty.
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>>9639884
That doesn't mean anything. What are your measurements? Your height? What kind of look do you like? Girly? Dark? Favorite colors? Motifs? Remember that fashion is about self expression, asking anonymous strangers to tell you what you should wear kind of beats the purpose.
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>>9639884
It mostly depends on your height and measurments. Also do what you like, it's your choice what to wear.
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>>9639895
I was really just looking for cuts and then I could go from there. I prefer psuedo-practical, without a lot of leg showing and colors and motifs more appropriate for late twenties. I love the look of cute stuff but it really doesn't suit me so I'm trying to find a happy medium.

>>9639896
Height 5' 10"
Bust 40"
Waist 31"
Hips 42"
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>>9639900
>colors and motifs more appropriate for late twenties
Again, doesn't really mean anything. Age-appropriateness is rarely a factor in Jfash, or alt fash in general.
But anyway, have you looked into larme? You might like it, at least the more toned down looks that don't incorporate fetish elements.
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>>9639900
Alright, so you're just fat. No jfashion will suit you, lose weight or give up.
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>>9639900
That's still not much to go on. What's practical for me doesn't mean it is for you. Start browsing photodump threads here and on the archive.
We have the same bust so I can tell you now that you're going to have a harder time getting things to work depending on what fashion you like.
Start off by looking at things such as otome kei, casual lolita, soft lolita, and classic lolita. That's the best I got for you.
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>>9639903
Who hurt you bitch? You know that's not true, she's just going to have to work harder. Don't bother replying to this either. I'm here to help people not argue with people whose only retort will be to call me fat, retarted or my favorite "you sound mad". Which flavor would you have gone for?
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>>9639903
Not anon but at that height that's not really fat. Probably chubby but that's nearly a 10" bust-waist difference. Fat would be a waist larger than bust
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>>9639911
Fat people look infinitely less aesthetic in clothing than skinny people do. It's just a fact. Regardless of what bodies you personally find appealing, there's a reason models are skinny rectangles.
>>9639914
Chubby, fat, plus-sized, whatever you wanna call
it, it's all the same.
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>>9639916
>aesthetic
back to /fa/ with you, man-bun
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>>9639916
Lol cept the anon's point was there's a difference between

>Ugh gross a fat person just give up one everything and kill yourself

and

>You seem too big to try this right now. Maybe look up so looks you like and use that as inspiration to lose so weight.

Except pretty sure a lot of lolita brands fit those measurements these days. A lot of new releases go up to 100cm busts that aren't shirring monsters.
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>>9639926
Fitting into something and looking good in it are two entirely different things. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
>>9639922
Sorry to disappoint, I'm a lolita and I don't go on /fa/.
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... how many places can i buy stuff second hand and what are the links. i know closet child and lace market. please help me goddesses
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>>9639916
>there's a reason models are skinny rectangles.

It's literally only because you can skimp on tailoring and it hangs exactly like it would on a hanger. It's been said thousands of times. Anything meant to expose the body is going to be at least a c-cup. Don't get me wrong lolita looks best on people that actually fit into it well, but you don't have to play into misconceptions.
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>>9639947
girly-cute, grand bazaar lolita, tokyo alice, maiden clothing, wunderwelt, yahoo auctions, fril, mercari, mbok, usagiyouhinten, violet blue
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>>9639916
Tim Gunn would find you very unlikable. Also, literally none of what you said is true, you just sound upset and ugly.
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Speaking of secondhand shops does anyone know some non-lolita ones for brands like milk, ahcahcum muchacha, aymmy and the batty girls, jouetie..?
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What's that's style that's just sort of cute business casual with lots of blazers and pencil skirts?
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>>9640007
You're going to have the most luck with Yahoo auctions, fril, Mercari, etc
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>>9640007
There's also Kei-Market if you absolutely need to buy western for some reason.
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This isn't really related to J-fashion but where to cop a good Edwardian corset? Or at least a corset to mimic the shape?

I have an Edwardian dress that I want to wear, but I don't want to look like one of those basic bitches wearing it with ann taylor sandals. Already have the other underthings but now need a friggin corset.
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>>9639831
I have no idea, they might just be having a moment in Harajuku right now.
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>>9640007
Don't know about the others, but MILK is a lolita staple in Japan and it's sold in basically every secondhand store.
You might also find the other brands in "other"/"offbrand" sections of the same shops, occasionally. But it's easier to go with what >>9640058 said.
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>>9640552
That's usually the girly stuff though. I know the lolita shops and auction/market places but there must be shops that 'specialize' in other harajuku brands or jfashions.
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No offence but why does it feel like cgl has way more unwritten rules than other boards?
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