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Old one hit limit. >>9644767

Don't reply to bait and keep it cgl-related.
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>>9651169
Ayyy. I remember posting that image in one of the earlier threads.
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> sees an ouji set for super cheap on second hand market
> ask a seller for measurements on their product
> they give me the run around until they finally tell me to look on Lolibrary
> looks on listing again
> they haven't even attached the Lolibrary link to it

Yeah no, I'm not gonna be interested anymore if you're not gonna give me the measurements for a generic Taobao ouji set, especially if you haven't even specified where exactly it's from.
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>tried to use Lacemarket
>lost a Wendy's coupon and got elbow dropped in the groin
Being a lolit is suffering.
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>>9651356
Sounds like you didn't actually care about them to begin with
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>when a non-gull asks you out
Should I go with her?
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>>9651359
Can you fuck off to /r9k/? This isn't cgl related at all. It's you being frustrated and autistic and I'm pretty sure that belongs in /r9k/
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>>9651363
Is she cute?
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>>9651365

/r9k/ is for lonely sad males, salty gull. I'm not going there.
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>>9651368
Yeah but she's a non-weeb.
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>>9651369
Why? Sounds like you'd fit in.

>salty
It says in the OP to keep it cgl related you dumb cunt
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>mfw I'm working during halloween treats restock

The saga of dissapointment continues
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>>9650173
I've always been into it from afar, I just didn't really feel comfortable showing my powerlevel and trying it out till recently. I went to a con with him, we did really basic closet cosplay(Marceline and Adult Finn from Adventure Time) and it was a blast. I wanna get further into into it.

>>9650527
I'm not, being slutty with the guy you love is not being slutty at all. People on this board have a lot of weird hang ups when it comes to sex. Sometimes this place feels like /r9k/ with frills.

>>9650910
Not at all, it was awkward and embarrassing having to explain myself, even worse when he had to assure me there wasn't any other woman, but it all worked out, we only cuddled that night and it was heavenly. It became something he used to tease me with when I was being jealous or possessive. I still have the stupid thing somewhere in my closet.
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>>9651200
>sees an ouji set for super cheap
where??
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I just want to destroy my local comm.
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>>9651446
Ow ThE eDgE
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>>9651446
Bagel detected.
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Someone one lace market is selling an AP pony bag with a whole bunch of other things for 700.
I'd love to buy the bag.
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>tfw don't know how to apply makeup and feel like I'm too incompetent to learn how to
Wish I could magic it on
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>>9651577
You gotta start somewhere.
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>>9651585
I'll keep working on it! though I probably won't be wearing it outside for a while
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>>9651501
message them acting for just the bag...?
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>fall in love with Axes Femme skirts
>none of their waist sizes go above 65cm
>be 177cm tall, 70cm waist
>tfw inelegant giant
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>>9651640
I don't know which skirts you're looking at but axes femme is stretchy as fuck if shirred. A bunch of their dresses and skirts fit me when I had a 72 cm waist.
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>>9651640
My waist is 74 and all their skirts fit me comfortably.
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>>9651642
really? what about their elastic bands?
When I check their website none of the waist sizes are below 65cm, most are actually around 62ish.
I've included a screenshot, maybe I'm looking at it wrong? This one does have shirring though but there are some I want with elastic band.
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>>9651649
If you translate the page ウエスト(ゴムあり) means waist (with rubber) which means elastic. If they have that they should fit you!
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>>9651642
>>9651648
>>9651652
oh man, thanks seagulls!
This really makes me happy!
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>>9651501
>>9651597
yeah you really should message them, most people on lace market are very reasonable and are usually open to discussion.

>>9651577
>>9651589
Don't worry anon, just keep practicing and accept that it will take time to apply. It'll go faster the more you practice.
If you're not up to that, just be a filthy hippie like me and only wear it on special occasions.
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Man I just really love lolita.
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Angry feels
I’m so fucking sick of seeing these ‘as a plus size lolita...’ posts. There’s a very simple solution to your problem; lose weight. It’s literally that easy, start putting less crap into your body and start exercising. And to not be able to fit into brand these days is ridiculous, AP with a shirring panel in the back can fit a US size 14 and fully shirred pieces can accommodate a bust/waist of over 100 cm. Being a fatass is an issue you created for yourself that you yourself can fix, stop crying about it.
And for the billionth fucking time: nobody cares if you’re wearing brand or indie as long as it looks good. I hate that self pitying ‘I don’t own brand :((((‘ shit.
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>>9651699
I feel like these people whine because they don't look good, and for one reason or another they believe that they'll look better in brand that is unattainable to them because it doesn't fit them, which is not true. You look good when you dress for your size, in colors and cuts that flatter you, with pieces made from high quality materials, not when the dress on your body has a BTSSB label sewn on it. If she looked good in her clothes (whatever brand they may be) she wouldn't have made that post.
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>>9651699
MUH SELF CONTROL
MUH SNACKS
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>>9651699
it's no longer just plus size if your waist is over 100cm....

>thinking people will criticize you for not wearing full brand
Have we gone back to 2010?
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>>9651365
>>9651372
Right on cue
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>>9651670
Same.

>>9651699
God yes this was my exact reaction to this post. I get so unreasonably angry when morbidly obese people refer to themselves as merely "plus-sized". There's currently someone in my local comm asking for places to buy lolita for someone who is "a little bigger". People had to drag out of her what her exact measurements are so they can actually help her, and it turns out her waist circumference is almost 100cm. That's more than a "little" bigger! Downplaying morbid obesity helps no one.

>>9651703
I think it's a cop-out.
>I look bad compared to many others
>many other are wearing brand but I'm not
>I can't wear brand because they don't make anything in my size
>the reason I look bad is because I can't wear brand
>losing weight is impossible because reasons so I'll never fit brand so I'll always look bad
>there is no possible way around this so I won't even try, instead I'll wallow in self-pity
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>>9651709
I’m on birth control that makes it easier for me to gain and harder to lose, so instead of just using that as an excuse to be fat I’m more careful of what I eat and I exercise more than other people. And let’s be real, most people are fat because they eat too much, not because of some sad, tragic backstory with some disease.
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>>9651711
Like >>9651703 said I'm 99% sure it's from people who look like shit and justify the lack of worship and praise because "brand whores" instead of taking any constructive criticism. I've known so may of these types in and out of lolita. Oh and don't forget it's only because they're busty and "asian body types" are impossible to even get near if you're over twelve.

They're also the ones that get super triggered when someone's too small for lolita. Since they can't do the whole "privilege" thing here they go for "skelly underage boy body" instead and shit up entire threads over "humblebragging" in response to a fit thread or question. Some of it's trolling, but there's definitely some that come here cause they pretend to actually just be Jessica Rabbit irl instead of having a waist twice the size of her hips.
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>>9651718
>when morbidly obese people refer to themselves as merely "plus-sized"
at least they're not calling themselves ~curvy~
that term sure is ruined forever for anyone with actual curves
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>>9651722
Fattychans who make fun of super petite girls are the worst. My bff is 5’0 and 100 lbs, the shirring on a lot of more recent relseases are just too much and dresses are obviously too big on her torso <normie fashion is a march through hell for her trying to find things that fit>. It’s not humblebragging, it’s a legitimate complaint she has about brand sizing and watching fattychans sperg about small girls is infuriating.
>inb4 angry fatty calls friend Ana
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> Have burly, 43cm shoulders as a girl
> Trying to find cute Lolita blouses because I have none, just a few tops that I got at normie stores that barely fit the Lolita aesthetic
> Tfw find a cute blouse on a taobao reseller for a reasonable price and they don't list the shoulder measurement
> The other measurements lead me to believe it will fit, but the shoulders tend to screw me over every time and I don't want to waist money
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>>9651734
Yup, and tailoring doesn't work at all the way they think it does. Even normal simple garments can only be brought down 1-2 sizes max if it has any shaping or structure at all.

Altering any lolita is going to be around 200-350 usd and they can only take very little in. They also won't do it unless it's plain or has a plain repeating pattern because they can't without ruining print and they don't want people demanding money back. They also can't take in cup sizes no matter how plain without wrecking it, that only works on plain simple shirts that already have princess seams. And yes there are people who can't fill out anything but IW and other tube bodices, proportionally and size wise. You also can't "just hem it" if it's too long without fucking up prints, borders, proportions, and even trims can be a bit tricky depending.
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To be fair I'd rather be very very petite and thin than a fatty-chan
(I'm average though so I shouldn't complain)
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>>9651752
One is something you can actually change and not be unhealthy for. You'll be even be healthier for it. So luckily enough it's completely up to you.
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>>9651752
I’d take being an average height fattychan than itty bitty, at least I could lose the weight and still find clothes that fit my build rather than being banished to the realm of ‘good fucking luck’.
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>>9651756
>>9651763
True but I meant a fatty in denial that won't ever change her size because its "impossible"

Also, can't change height. Tall normal sized people are kind of screwed too
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>>9651786
Yeah that's what I meant by only being able to change one part. Both short and tall people have the same exact fit issues with shoulders, arm holes, bust/waist height and etc. 5'5 is only about 2-3 inches taller than the Japanese average and the same as lots of China though. So you shouldn't have a problem with a length or proportions unless you're going for teen brands or 90's oldschool and want 2017 length.
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>>9651789
I’m 5’5 and I was shocked how short oldschool dresses can be. I looked like a 12 year old with a sudden growth spurt it was ridiculous.
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>>9651790
>>9651790
I feel like it's easily recognizable as lolita and looks really cute if you make it look intentional, but I'm definitely extremely biased. It's one of my favorite looks.
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>>9651789
I agree, I'm 5'5 and would fit everything fine if my shoulder width weren't 41cm. It makes fitting into ops quite challenging as it drives up my bust and the arm holes sit in the wrong spot. But I'm quite happy as I can fit most pieces and I'm lucky to have smallish bust and waist naturally.

Have any of you guys gotten super anxious about wearing lolita? Or more specifically, about the reactions you get? I can't explain the joy lolita brings me, it makes me special kind of happy but for a while I have been feeling weird about it. Lolita makes me feel happy and pretty but also I have been feeling ridiculous and tired of stares, questions and comments. When I manage to get dressed it makes me feel so good but most of the times I can't overcome the negative feels before I get dressed and just put on something boring and feel disappointed the whole day. I didn't care what others thought about me in the past and I just want to stop caring again.
>Pic related is me in the public
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>>9651640
>177cm
>too tall
I'm 185 cm tall and get told constantly that I'm short wtf is going on here?
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>>9651857
>185 is short in lolita apparently

Wut
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>>9651853
Maybe take a break or tone it down a bit for a while? I've been alt-fash since I could buy my own clothes, but when I'm already feeling down I always feel most comfortable in gothic, lolita or otherwise. If you don't know what "your" style is yet this would be a good time to try to figure it out.
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>>9651867
Not for Lolita, but in everyday situations I get called short all the time
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>>9651437
>this place feels like /r9k/ with frills
truer words have never been posted
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>>9651857
The people in this discussion are all women. 185cm is average or "short" for a man, but tall for a woman.
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>>9651870
Seconding this; take a bit of a break. Something you love can make you happier than you imagine, but being gawked at and constantly having to answer to strangers who can’t mind their own business can really start to wear on you.
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>went to the mall in non lolita clothes
>goes to hot topic
>near the melanie martinez section
>group of people there
>one girl says "oh yes melanie she has a really cute, unique style, it's called lolita!"
>mfw as an actual lolita
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>>9651899
Oh, no.
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>>9651857
>>9651876
Thats tall even for a man...
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>>9651899
I googled her. That is horrifying.
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>>9651909
It's average where I live. Sage for OT.
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>>9651911
What rock have you been living under?
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>>9651737
Y-you sound cute, anon. I love strong-looking girls who enjoy cute things. I'd alter shirts for you for free if I knew you.
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I can't seem to make my legs and feet look good. I can put together a nice combination of dress, blouse, accessories, and makeup, but I just can't seem to get my socks/tights and shoes to look good. Even wearing burando socks and shoes, they just look... Bad. I don't know what's wrong with me.
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>>9651921
You should show me your leg and feet combos
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>>9651911
Would you be more horrified to know she's worn actual AP dresses and referred to her style as "adult baby"?
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>>9651926
...Thanks, but I'd rather not post pics here. I just feel like my legs look too plain and my shoe choices make me look short and dumpy, even though I'm not fat by any standards. And I feel like my colour coordination is always off.
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>>9651927
I want to kill myself (Angelic Pretty with a spaghetti strap top, who'd believe it)
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>>9651928
Use a throwaway email
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>>9651934
Petition to stop western celebrities from wearing lolita
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>>9651937
You're cute, anon, your reaction reminds me of the "holy shit a celebrity is wearing brand" shitfests back on EGL.
I don't think it's a big deal that she wears (or has worn) AP, more the fact that she taints it and the fashion with her bullshit. Also the fact many of her fans latched onto her image and use it to fuel their ddlg fetish, and then piggyback on that when they get their grubby little hands on lolita. That does get under my skin.
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I hate being the only non-noob in my comm who doesn't wear OTT to meets. The other girls are nice to me, it's not about them. I just feel so plain next to them, even though I wear my nicest dresses and coordinate well enough. I'm not going to go OTT, though. I don't actually like the look much, and my lolita clothes are my everyday clothes so going OTT wouldn't make much sense.

>>9651934
She could be so cute, but she just looks like Tumblr. Gross.
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>>9651911
You hadn't heard of her before? I envy you. Several girls in my comm love her and insist on playing her annoying music at meetups because she's "so loli!!!!"

>>9651937
This doesn't even look that bad, but it's her romanticisation of child abuse and mental illness I can't stand. She's one of the driving forces behind the rise of ddlg shit among teenagers and it's disgusting.

>>9651946
I know this feeling. Occasionally I'm tempted to put together an OTT coord just to fit in better with the rest, but then I remember that I'd only ever wear it to meetups at most once a year, which to me is a waste of money and closet space. So instead I focus more on details and highest possible quality in things I can get more wear out of. People who truly care about fashion notice these things, too.
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>>9651955
>romanticisation of child abuse and mental illness
That's fucked up.
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>>9651169
>order a bunch of stuff from AP with SS
>get the eye mask but no Halloween Treats postcard

B-but I wanted it...
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>>9651937
>>9651934
I really don't know who looks worse between her and Miss XV.
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>>9651966
You're forgetting Lil Mama,
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>>9651967
D'oh, silly me. She was ICONIC. True lolita idol right there.

Hayley Williams and her Bodyline too.
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>>9651966
Paulina Goto would have made an adorable lolita if they had dressed her right.
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>>9651967
And, not a singer but still awful, Jessica Simpson. Katy Perry and Lady Gaga have also worn lolita (the latter with complimentary ganguro tan and makeup), though nowhere nearly as badly as these.
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>>9651971
>that heavily modified Sheep Garden
I don't even like AP and I still cringed.
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>>9651967
Wow. At least Nicki Minaj's decora was cute. That's just all kinds of wrong.
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>>9651974
>>9651971
>>9651969
>>9651967
>>9651966
>>9651937
Have any celebs ever done lolita right?
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>>9651979
I've never seen this! She does look cute.
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>>9651984
I think she's the only western celebrity who has ever done jfashion right. Her attempt at lolita was pretty bad though, but to be fair, I don't think she was aiming for a real lolita coord and at least she looked cute and didn't alter the dress.
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>>9651934
>>9651966
>>9651971
>>9651967
>>9651969
Why do so many normies act they'll die if they ever wear something that covers their shoulders or thighs? I kinda get the thigh thing is because they often can't believe women can look good without being "sexy." But anything normies make "acceptable" always has to have spaghetti straps or those horrible thick ones. Same for nearly any normie dress without long sleeves. Even most Halloween costumes seem to be that way and they do it the least. It's not like they can't buy OPs
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>>9651987
But anon covering your shoulders is so prudish and boring, and besides the dresses look much cuter when they're so short they don't cover their asses, I mean that's why it's called lolita, right?
>sarcasm
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>>9651957
It is. The girls in my comm who are fans if her are actually making up or exaggerating mental issues and familial abuse because that's what's trendy in those circles and they want to fit in. One of them is straight up claiming to be a victim of child abuse by her father because he won't buy her AP for her birthday and she "needs" it for her mental health UwU
Fucking teenagers.

>>9651974
>coochie coochie coo~
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>>9651983
Anna Tsuchiya modelled for BABY and AATP!

Oh wait you meant western celebrities. Lol no.
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>>9652001
hnnng anna i love you
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>>9652001
I find this so delightfully ironic considering her role as Ichiko. She looks lovely though.
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>>9651974
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>>9652004
Her AATP stuff is literally my sexual orientation
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>>9652006
She's actually modeled for BTSSB several times over the years, unlike Kyoko Fukada. She seems to have a good relationship with the brand.
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>>9652011
That's her? I wouldn't have recognized her in a million years! She's adorable!
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>>9652012
She really is! This iconic old-school one is her too. There's a subtitled interview with her on YouTube from last year that you should totally look up, she seems so sweet and like she really gets what the fashion is about even though she doesn't generally wear it. She also worries that her voice is too rough and not cute enough for lolita, but imo it just makes her seem even cuter.
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>Go on Jabberwocky for the first time
>Oh shit is that Connie
>She looks... Really different.

I knew she PSed but I'm a little heartbroken now. I'm hoping it's just a bad angle.
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>>9652007
After all these years I still think it's a JAV for a few seconds. Especially after clicking it. Katy Perry probably would t.bh.
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>>9652007
>>9652040
Yeah it really looks like the cover of a softcore porn DVD.
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I am someone who usually makes their cosplays from scratch, but I saw a site selling a cosplay I really wanted to do so I bought it.
I can’t help but feel less of a cosplayer when I buy things :/
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>>9651371
like an anti-weeb or just a normie? If normie you can always convert her to our sinful ways.
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>>9652033
Looks like bad lighting to me.
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>>9651915
>>9651955
literally never heard of her before. I don't partake in what ever thing she is associated with (music?)
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>wear cute otome and lolita outfits to work sometimes
>get compliments from my coworkers
>never get pictures of my outfits because I don't have a good place in my room and I don't want to seem weird in front of my coworkers
>coworker just came up and offered to take pictures of my "cute outfits" whenever I wear them

Its so sweet and thoughtful of her! I hope I can put a few more pics on my IG now.
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>>9651909
Haha no. It's slightly above average maybe. Not tall though.
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>>9652201
eh, ~80th percentile
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A few threads ago, I talked about how I had suicidal thoughts over my breakup. Good news, I got on meds for my depression and now I'm dating a really good friend of mine who actually respects me and isn't just a toxic, manipulative dickhead.
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>>9652143
>you don't partake in music

What?
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>>9651979
I think this is the only example of a celebrity doing J-fashion right, and I don't even care for Nicki Minaj.
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>>9652212
That genre of music.
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>volunteer monthly at a children's hospital in cosplay
>visit one little girl every single time dressed as a disney princess
>she wasn't there today

I was really hoping she got better, but she didn't. I actually couldn't finish the rest of my rounds when I found out.
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>meet up with a girl to sell locally at coffee shop
>never met her before but saw her fb, expecting a girl in her very early 20s
>see her with a woman when I come in, say hello
>learn through conversation that she's in high school and the woman is her mother
>wait what
>we chat more while waiting for our drinks after completing the sale
>very well spoken, sweet girl
>talks about the local comm, how she's organizing a meet in the coming weeks
>my heart just swells
Listening to her talk about the fashion and how much she liked it reminded me of the feeling I had when I first joined the fashion. That, and the feeling of I-don't-really-get-the-fashion-but-at-least-she's-covered-up that I got from her mom reminded me of my own mother. Just a nice little interaction.
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>>9652266
I wasn't ready for this feel. Most of my family is in medicine, and they say you get desensitized to it over time. Ya know, people dying. Or really cool people dying in front of you.
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>>9652143
I've never heard her music either but I know her for how infamous she is in the lolita community.
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>>9652274
My boyfriend is a doctor, some nights he comes home quiet and sombre so I know what happened. I don't ask anything, I just nuzzle him against my boobs and play with his hair. He tells me about it the next morning.
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I have to wake up to see some gulls in just three hours, but I'm so excited I can't sleep.
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>con this weekend
>signed up for a competition and got a ticket
>too many people signed up and I can't participate anymore
>friend I usually go with doesn't want to go anymore
>uncomfortable traveling and going alone in cosplay

Oh well. I'll earn the ticket cost back, it's not that bad.
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>mfw its likely that I will see the death and closure of lolita brands in my lifetime
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>>9652411
Were you not around to see Black Peace Now closing?
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>>9652411
And plus it was just this year I believe that Swimmer announced they were shutting down and both IW and Putumayo announced they were closing their Harajuku stores if I'm remembering right.
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>>9652412
Yeah I was but Im sweet lolita so... I more mean brands I care about :^)

>>9652474
Yeah all these things are scary. I was autistically upset about SWIMMERS closure but they arent a lolita brand
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>>9651734
Thank you,
Even in normie clothes it is sometimes a pain in the ass.
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>Lost almost 10 kg since the start of may
>Around 1 kg away from my goal weight
>Went to small j-fash event today to see if I could find anything cute
>Got to try on a LizLisa dress
>It fits, looks cute and the shirring isn't even fully stretched
I'm fit in to, at least some, LizLisa now, feels good man
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>>9652565
Well done, anon! Proud of you!
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>Have massive social anxiety, especially about meeting other lolitas.
>Finally met two other lolitas for the first time since I moved away from home and my old comm.
>They were both really nice and not scary at all.
I feel encouraged to maybe stop being a lonelita. Feels so good
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I was running to the meet and my panties/bloomers fell down.
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>>9652678
This is why thong diapers were invented, newfag.
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One of the members of my local comm passed away. I haven't seen her in a few years because our comm is small and inactive and a few of us have moved away, but this girl was one of the reasons I got into lolita. She was like a fashion mentor to me back in high school when I was starting to build my wardrobe, and it's just so weird to think that she's gone.
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>>9652678
wtf?? how? wearing 2 sizes too big??
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>>9652722
>>>9652502
Link to insta or other social media?
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went to my first con post plastic surgery. i wore an old cosplay i had made a while back since i'm broke now. when i wore it pre-surgery i got asked for maybe one photo and went unnoticed. this time i could barely walk two feet without being asked for a photo and asked what my social media was. had people going out of their way to be nice to me and complimenting me. feels bittersweet man.
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>>9652011
>unlike Kyoko Fukada
She's an actor. Who cares if she's not actually into lolita, it's obviously not a fashion for everyone.
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>>9651699
I initially felt sorry for her, but then remembered my own 60+ lb weight loss and how I can now easily fit into Baby and AP without even needing to check measurements. Toughen the fuck up, I'm not even trying to humble brag. The pros of losing weight far outweigh the cons- stop making excuses.
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I've been wanting to introduce my girlfriend to aristo for a long time, I suddenly saw some things I thought she'd like and randomly decided to show her them and we just spent an hour or so browsing brands and now she's obsessed and plans to buy a lot of pieces once she has the money.

I've been a lolita for a while, and even before I met my girlfriend, I thought about having a qt jfash grillfriend to dress up with. I love it. I've posted here about it forever ago, but I'm so happy. I'll be a tiny 5'2" pastel lolita with a 5'8" (and more with heeled boots) edgy aristo gf who only wears black. I'm going to shower her in Atelier BoZ and whatever else I can find-- she loves the Roland coat.

She's even coming to visit me in the winter (she lives in the EU, I'm in USA) and we'll be going to a con an hour or two away. I'm so hyped, you guys. She's the best friend I'd ever have in the world and it makes me so hyped to have even another thing we can both enjoy together.
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>>9652787
Thats fantastic anon! I hope you two have a wonderful time. Make sure to hold her hand
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Asked my cosplay/lolita crush out today. She said no. Makes me sad because I genuinely thought she showed interest in me. Oh well. Another 4 years of being single I guess.
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>>9652810
d8 me
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>>9652706
Listen to her. If you shit in your bloomers, they sag and fall. Shit in a thong diaper, and it safely falls out onto the ground.
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>>9652886
Not cgl related, take it to /fit/ fag
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>>9652207
I'm so happy for you, anon!!
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>>9652808
Thank you, anon!
There'll be a lot of hand-holding! I'm almost worried she'll look so good in it that I'll need to cling to her the entire time out of fear of thirsty congoers. Almost. (She's so tall and slim and overall wonderfully androgynous)

But I mainly just hope she'll enjoy the whole experience! (It'll be her first con and her first jfashion experience.)
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Coworker and I have been flirting for months. He would call me his "qt Korean waifu" (cringey but oddly cute) and always comment hearts on my cosplay & lolita photos. I started developing feelings for him and was planning on confessing to him.
Today I found out he had a girlfriend.
It's a sad and lonely world.
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my mom is really supportive of my hobbies and my wearing lolita, but she kind of lives her shopping addiction through me and believes quantity > quality and keeps buying me poor quality taobao/milanoo tier stuff without consulting me at all...

i'm really happy that she's taken an interest but the thing is, even she is disappointed by the quality every single time something comes in. i wish i understood why she kept buying if she knew it wasn't the way it was portrayed online. i've tried explaining gently which places are trustworthy and which are not but it's kind of inappropriate to be like, "buy me stuff here, not here!"

i'm just tired of seeing her be disappointed every time a to alice dress comes in the mail when she herself is expecting the quality of BTSSB.
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>>9652941
I don't think that directing her to reputable sources is inappropriate, all things considered. She's very willing to buy you things (though it does seem unhealthy), if asking her to not buy you anything is not an option, the least you can do is direct her somewhere that will actually supply the things she sees in the photos so neither of you will be disappointed, and she stops wasting money on crap.
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Well it happened.

My comm caught me dabbing.
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>>9652568
Thank you anon! I was really insecure about my weight/body for a long time and I really feel healthier now. I'm excited to start up a cute wardrobe that I'll feel comfortable wearing!
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My mother is an ageplayer/little, and I live in fear that she will find out about lolita fashion. I had to wait until I moved out to start buying the fashion and wear normie clothes whenever I visit. I just know she'd be the biggest sweet ita and I'd have to leave the fashion out of shame.

>this probably belongs in the cringe thread
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>>9653062
holy shit

this is insensitive, but deets? did she "come out" to you or something or did you just find out? if it makes you feel better my sister is an ageplayer and i protect my clothes with my life because one time i let her borrow something cute of mine and she sent lewds to her daddy in it. so many ageplayers seem to lose all sense of boundaries and decency for the sake of fetish. absolutely disgusting.
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>>9653064
She's told me everything about everything since I was a kid, so yeah she told me, but I would have found out anyway coz she was a lifestyler for a little while when I still lived there. Very open with all the things. She even tried to get me in on a thing once coz "it's not sexual, it just feels good."

>throwing up forever
>brb suppressing memories
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>>9653066
my condolences jfc
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>>9653066
I really really hope this is bait, but I've seen ageplayers trying to justify shit like this with their real names and tons of selfies attached. Good luck with separating yourself from her.
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>>9653080
Believe me, I wish it were bait too. The world is a strange, strange place.
We are very separate now, and I'll consider reconnecting when she gets therapy.
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>>9652917
why must people people lead us on?
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>>9651719
Birth control has nothing to do with that unless you already had problems with weight and hormones, im on birth control too and the only thing that changed are periods and having a bit of migraine
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>girlfriend wants to do a couple's cosplay of admiral and Kongou from kancolle
>Says shell make the costumes if I do the props
>Spend months making the rigging for her
>She sees mine, but she has so much trouble she commissions her cosplay from someone else
>Day of the con comes
>Everyone fawning over her and her cosplay, I get told mine is awful
>People asking me to take pics of them with her
>People don't believe we're together
>When they fawning over her and say how talented she is for her cosplay, she tell them how hard the cosplay and props were to make
I don't know if I've even felt so mad before
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>>9653178
They probably just like feeling "wanted"
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>>9653300
why are you dating her she sounds like a total bitch. don't settle for those types of attention whores.
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Considering dating a non-gull.
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>lend friend €50 for cosplay supplies which she NEEDED desperately
>half a year ago
>still hasn't paid me back because "I have literally no money right now anon :("
>eats out regularly
>constantly posts about the new plushies, figurines and other crap she's bought
>is about to drop €200 on a tacky as fuck rhinestone belt to wear with her wedding dress because it reminds her of some Dr Who character
>"literally no money though sorry anon :(((("
I'm a NEET too, I need that money for burando!
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>>9653354
>lending money with the expectation of getting it back
Everyone point and laugh.
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>starting at qt brolita the whole time at con
>maybe i should talk to him
>gets later in the day, see him leaving
>holy shit its actually a girl
>wig, posture and oddly fitting dress made me think she was a dude. Shes a normal looking girl
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>Struggle on and off with an ED
>Morbidly obese friends and family think I look "so ana"
>BMI is 25
>Starting to have trouble fitting into my brand items

I don't know what's real anymore gulls. I just want to look good in my lolita again.
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>>9653354
Guilt trip her, tell her you need it desperatly for x reason
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>>9653407
you're fat, but ed isn't the way to be less fat.
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>>9653407
If you can't beat it on your own join some pro-recovery related groups and forums. Having someone that can encourage you to be healthier without freaking out and being a total normalfag about it really helps. "Try chewing and spitting instead of purging to wean off" instead of "Omg just stop you freak/I'm worried about you" helps much more short term and long term. Especially if you're dealing with anorexia get an online calendar or chart and give yourself points for every day you lessened/stopped your ED behavior. Seeing how far you've come helps you want to keep that streak. Good luck anon.

>>9653430
If you actually have an ED nothing anyone says will instantly make you stop. Especially not on an anonymous Chinese cartoons site. They may even be talking about binging and/or purging considering their wording.
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>>9653407
Anon if your ED is bulimia please put your general health before your weight. Although it isn't good to be fat or overweight, I think the side effects of bulimia can be much worse. I've struggled with it for 5 years now and have only recently started receiving help but please try to get help asap, whether it's professional or from your loved ones. I put it off for a really long time and have several health complications and heart issues as a result of it. I've started losing weight recently as well through diet and exercise, and I think my ED was actually preventing me from losing it.
Even if you can't get help immediately please try to at least put off purging for as long as you can to start with, which helped me a lot in the beginning. If you don't have anyone to reach out to try to join some forums like >>9653447 said. I'm rooting for you.
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>>9653354
I'll be sound and sort ye out with the money if it's for burando, missus.
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>>9653363
This but still. I lend money out all the time and never ask for it back. Glad people respect me enough to pay me back in a reasonable time frame.

Except this one faggot who I'll probably never get a dime from. Probably owes me a few thousand, but we're friends and the money spent was for fun times.
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>make friends online, even start an online relationship, all with very accepting weebs who share my hobbies
>girl I dated was into cosplay and thought loli would be cute on me, encouraged me to buy my first and only dress (spoiled cats)
>feel frustrated by how basic and attention whorish she actually is, how much she lies all the time and how she treats people like condoms (one use only)
>grow to hate everyone which happens every time, want to be alone
>blow off my friends and eventually ghost them, break up with my LDR
>watch anime and read manga and mentally live in a maladaptive daydreaming fantasy, never buy more dresses and never wear my dress
>lonely because I made it that way

What the fuck is wrong with me?
Why do I push away people who would accept me as the loser I am and feel disgust toward them? I'm very accepting but when people get too close or admit feelings for me, something just switches off and I feel disgust. I see people with their friends and read manga about big friend groups saving the world and stuff, but I never like anyone that much, or connect with them. If I try to, it gets worse and I run back to the comfort of being lonely. I am scum and I want to die
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>>9653490
a bit unrelated, but where did you even meet friends? i have maybe two online friends and don't know where to find more to fill the lonely void
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>another friend finder thread
>another person I felt I connected with ghosts me yet again for no reason
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I dared to show off a new purchase to my comm, and an ita immediately asked if she could borrow it. I was caught off-guard and agreed and now I regret everything. Why am I such a pushover? I hate myself.
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>>9653509
You can make dweeb friends easily on most social media stuff, but a lot of the time they are teenagers

Things like old style forums, IRC, reddit, DC groups, Steam and here would probably have greater amounts of adult activity, and stuff like FB where identities are more obvious. There are a ton of places to meet people, but meeting the people you want to meet is the hard part. I haven't figured out how to do that yet.

Maybe I'm too old for Chinese cartoons. Its all teenagers everywhere. And many of them are batshit and ready to unload their baggage within the first hour of contact.
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>>9653513
I ghosted someone a while ago and I feel bad but I'm afraid to reconnect :(
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>>9653520
Do it.
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>>9653520
Send them a message saying you're sorry, gull. The worst that happens is they don't respond/say they don't want to talk and you go back to the situation you were in previously. Closure is nice, for everyone involved
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I just saw Rockstar (Dolluxe/Gothic Lolita Wigs) wigs being sold on a sex toy site and I did a double take
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>>9653407
>>9653447
>>9653462
>/cgl/ - The only board on 4chan where ED doesn't mean erectile dysfunction.

I had a gf who had an eating disorder due to an upbringing of tactless autistic family members, (she was by no means fat, especially by burger standards). Because it was a mental disorder there's not a lot I could do about it. The best I could do to minimize physical damage was cook more nutrient dense meals and teach basic healthy living, but it probably didn't make to much of a difference. In the end it was therapy and time that helped her get past it.
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>>9653490
are you me

the thing is though, it's really not bad to be picky about your friend group or who you associate with. it's natural to feel resentment towards people if they don't meet your expectations--especially online, fading relationships aren't a huge deal unless it's a long-term investment (think years).

however you also need to realize that everybody has annoying flaws, and weighing the pros and cons of being friends with them is important. try not to burn bridges until you're sure. my 2 or 3 close online friends annoy the hell out of me sometimes but the times when they're cool make up for it.
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>>9653462
I very rarely purge and only really have BED for the most part now. For various reasons like money, being underage at the time, not worrying an already very stressed family, and absolutely horrible treatment options I avoided it as much as possible. I've have extremely bad experiences with multiple therapists dealing with even more sensitive topics. But yes if you need therapy and have the means to get it do so. I figured that was the obvious advice and anon would pretty much get nothing but that otherwise.
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>>9653513
small PSA to gulls who ghost: it's okay to tell somebody that you don't feel like you mesh and that you would like to cut things off. you don't owe anyone anything, but a polite message is courteous.

small PSA to gulls who always post about being ghosted: understand that some people are busy irl or have unexpected things happen to them, and that a near-stranger on the internet doesn't really owe you anything. it sucks but you also have no clue what's going on in the other person's everyday life.
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>>9652201
its >top 15%
bet you saw 9 inch dicks too
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I have a serious issue with buying Lolita. Not a spending problem, the opposite. If a dream dress comes up and I have more than enough money, I talk myself out of it. I can't believe I do it. I don't know why. When I was a teen and broke as fuck and hoping and praying that I could afford an expensive brand dress, did I ever think that I'd talk myself out of it?
I think it started about five years ago when I nearly bought Puppet Circus. It was only $500 for the jsk in red. It's still a dream dress. I had the money and all my bills paid. I talked myself out of it. I've never seen it so cheap in such good condition since.

Why am I like this
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I just want like a lolita bestie, I feel so lonely sometimes. I'm a mod to my comm and all but considering I live in a small country, our comm is small. Also, all the members live far apart from each other, and I'm pretty sure I'm the farthest one from the rest, and they treat lolita as sort of a part time thing. I do get along with another mod really well because she has a similar way of seeing lolita as I do and a super cute style, but she also lives far. Any online friend I make eventually break ties with me too. And none of the friends I have nearby or online currently are interested in lolita either. I just want someone to talk about lolita shit, whether it be comm gossip, recent releases, whatever. I just want someone relatable in my life.
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>>9652007
She has the neck ties, tied over her chest...
This whole thing is so sad.
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>>9651986
Lady GaGa had a pretty cute Lolita coord.
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>you will never have a gf
If I had more money I would spiral into alcoholism
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>>9653490
Borderline personality disorder?
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I finally have enough income to really spend decent money on a lolita wardrobe but my local comms seem to have this dumbass in-fighting problem and no one seems to attend the events people are trying to organize.

I really love lolita and have wanted to be serious about it for so long but I absolutely hate this childish, high school shit. I could be a bitch and start my own comm but honestly, I'm starting to second guess spending my fun money on this when I end up surrounded by cry babies...
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>>9653796
>complains about crybabies
>is bitching on an anonymous imageboard about a problem that's easily solved
lonelitas are a thing you know
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>>9653796
>>9653798
Whenever I feel sad about people being bitches I just step back and get some perspective. Yeah its fun to dress up and share the fashion but at the end of the day, I don't have to share pictures. I don't have to judge others. I don't have to spend time with people that are fighting. And, I can still have a blast in lolita alone or with my good friends. I tend to be a bit of a floater anyway, I will attend con events and be socially gracious without making bffs. At the same time I have hosted a few minor events (not at my house though) with success as well.
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>>9653539
I understand. Thank you for seeming to be a reasonable person despite saying we are similar. It gives me hope that I'm not just completely fucking everything up for no reason.

>>9653789
I don't know, maybe? I always figured I was just schizoid because I am happiest alone being a turbo weaboo.

Within a group or handful of people I try to befriend, one of them admits romantic feelings for me randomly after a few months or even a few weeks. Every time. Usually the others have been approached by the person about liking me so we get pushed together. The people who pursue me for both friendships and relationships are usually manipulative and chronic liars, at least to an extent. I try to give them a chance and at least humour them but find myself suddenly bothered by things that I normally don't care about, as if I'm looking for any reason to end the "relationship" and cut contact.

I feel like a supercunt but all I want to do is try to enjoy my hobbies in a different way, with others. Writing it out like this, I feel kind of depressed.
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>>9653796
Comms aren't mandatory, please stop treating this fashion like a costume and just wear what you like.
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>>9653354
I know this feel. People will do this and never feel guilty about it. I think they're sociopaths and want to do physical violence to them
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>>9653798
A perfect case in point. Thank you for this example and please see your raggamuffin ass to the door.

>>9653804
I personally just want to be in an active group that actually goes to each others meets. If I'm going to be spending the considerable amount of money I'm planning to, I don't want to just sit in my house or walk around my area. I want to have baking parties and picnics and cute shopping days with other people. I just get really dispirited that something that should be fun and warming like lolita has such catty, sour-hearted people in it.

I guess in the end, I'm probably going to be making my own events and perhaps my own, more active circle of friends. It's more work on my part but goddamn do I want a group I can bake for regularly and have parties with!
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>>9653363
You're not wrong.

>>9653423
I can try but I'm starting to think she's not capable of empathy. I've already joked about confiscating the cosplay and selling it online to get my money back and our mutual friends also know about it, but it doesn't faze her. She just reiterates that she's completely broke and can't possibly come up with the money, then turns around and orders a €15 dessert.

>>9653472
But then I'd have to pay you back and the whole thing gets more complicated!

>>9653817
I feel like an inconsiderate asshole if I don't leave Lacemarket feedback right away, I can't even imagine how someone can live with themselves owing money but blowing that person off to spend it on frivolous shit instead. Especially someone you regularly see in real life. How is the guilt not eating at her? I'm just glad I never lent her a lolita dress like she wanted, that would be even worse.

Lesson learned, I guess.
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>>9653814
Of course comms aren't mandatory but I'm a fairly social person and would prefer other lolitas to spend my time with. And unfortunately I can't just "wear what I like" because I have a full-time career and I'm very often mistaken for pedo-bait. It's much safer in my area to be with other people. Also, get off my dick. Your vagina is way to salty about dresses desu.
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>>9653733
This sounds really familiar. Are you kind of e-famous and involved in organizing big annual events? Because if that's you then I think you're pretty cool and we have a lot of interests in common, but I've never felt comfortable approaching you because I worry you get hassled by people all the time and wil just think I'm another girl trying to leech followers and suck up to authority. We don't live close, though OTL
If this isn't you then disregard me and my creepiness.
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>>9653839
You can't deny that your original post insinuates that you only want to wear lolita to social outings.
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>>9653826
Drop an email and we can talk about it then, don't have to worry about paying back right away
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>>9653517
Hi Tia
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>show bf a cute dress I saw on ebay and ask if it would look good on me
>"Money is tight right now anon, don't be looking at that stuff."
>we do have bills to pay, so whatever
>later that same fucking day, some stacy asks him to buy her an outfit that's twice as expensive
>he barely knows her, but buys it for her anyway
>confront him about it
>"She needed those clothes anon"
>she didn't, found out later she just wanted something cute to wear to a party
We can't even pay for rent now, fuck.
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>>9653957
So not only did he buy cute clothes for another girl, he's also done it while being completely irresponsible despite your financial situation. Cool. So when are you dumping him?
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>>9653957
Was eating breakfast and almost shit myself laughing. How do people become this fiscally irresponsible?
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>5’2”, used to be 100lb back in 2015
>bad shit happens, gain 20lb within a month or so of that year due to stress
>average weight now but it all hit me so quickly that I look like an okapi
>been on birth control for a while so I didn’t think that helped much either
>2017, weight hasn’t budged much
>shit happens in july/august
>now probably 130lb, still average but doctor says I have to be careful
>weight gain over years has caused my breast to grow, which makes it hard for me to wear any sort of j-fashion.
>My height means that weight distribution sucks for me too, so I’ll always look weird in my favorite clothes

I hate it gulls. I’m so self-conscious about my body and sometimes I just look in the mirror and push my boobs together to make them seem smaller and I get to see the body of a cute girl for once, not the frumpy thing that I am. I’ve been thinking about getting a reduction but I know technically they aren’t that big (32C). I hate how they look on me though and I don’t know if there’s anything I can even do to naturally reduce them. I feel so dysphoric about them and there’s times where I just feel gross looking at myself in anything. It’s made me think some bad shit and I don’t know what to do
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>>9654023
Try getting a binder first anon, and a good one, not those shitty bandage ones. If a sports or reducing bra doesn't cut it for you, a half shirt binder will pull you in and flatten you out, probably help with distribution too as far as giving you a waist again.
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>>9653894
I won't deny it sounds like that because unfortunately it kind of is? Not in the "lolita is a costume for parties" way but I do wear a lot of other fashions regularly while also basically working two full-time jobs. One of which I own.

I know it's mighty autistic of me but being able to put meetups on my calendar helps me fit lolita into my busy life. It's also personally nice to spend my free time out being social and so meetups are a win-win.

What's not fun is having to deal with low-key bickering at every gathering to the point where no one goes to anyone's events. The only option is that I'll just have to host the stuff I want to do and if people want to join me, they can. Which is very backwards for something that wants to label itself as a community. I just want to bake pies and drink tea and have a good stressless time with people that share my interests; not take a one way trip into Salt Valley. I do that shit at work.
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>>9653922
I'm not taking your money anon. I can live without burando for a while.

>>9653957
Wtf anon why are you dating a manchild?
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>>9654032
Thanks anon! I have a binder for crossplay but I’ve been wanting to look into a different style. I’ve been working out because I heard that helps with their size but I don’t think it’s gonna do that much haha
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>>9653638
Anon, are you me?
A wishlist skirt of mine popped up and I couldn't bring myself to bid on it, despite it being at a reasonable price, simply because "I'm still new at this, I won't be able to coord this yet, wait a little longer." It's awful.
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>>9654037
Post workout? Putting yourself on C25K and having a good diet should be enough to lose weight.
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>>9653610
For Japan I guess it is.
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>>9653638
Same. I'm addicted to saving money.
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>>9654040
I’m mostly looking to see if working out will reduce the breast size. I’ve been told that because it’s fat, they’re something you can trim down. If I can do that I should be fine with myself. Not much I can do about the stretch marks
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>>9654023
Just lose weight. 100 pounds is definitely still healthy at 5'2 and you even said your cup size increased with your weight. I go up and down several cup sizes with 30 pounds and I'm only a few inches shorter. You can lose slightly over half of it with a moderate healthy diet in a month.
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>>9654045
I know I’m gonna sound like an idiot, but cup size can just fluctuate? They don’t have an average size they just stay at?
Sorry that this is dumb, I never really looked into how breasts work despite having them lol. No one really helped me out either so I never knew where to look or what to look for.
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>>9654023
I'm a 34DD and have had similar issues but went way over 130.

Get a binder off Underworks. They're professional and comfy ones that last a long time and won't injure you. I would also recommend (if possible) getting the MyFitnessPal app! It helps me make sure my calorie intact is balanced even though my joint pain keeps me from really exercising regularly. I've lost a lot using them honestly and the app doesn't make you feel bad which is a plus.
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>>9654047
Yes, unless you're an a-cup or smaller a very significant amount of it is fat. At bigger cup-sizes it's majority fat. A unique type of fat based on hormones that can be stubborn, but basically no one is the same cup size when underweight as they are overweight. The only exception are dense breasts which are at higher risk for breast cancer and fairly rare. I'm even a sorta rectangle/pear shape and completely flat at a healthy weight, but when obese I was a (very saggy) c-cup with a much wider band. Now I'm at a 22bmi and an aaa-cup.

Whatever you are at a healthy bmi is your true size. When you're short like we are weight gain that other girls can shrug off is both more visible and more dangerous. You have much less wiggle room than taller girls.
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>>9654050
I’ve seen this app pop up before so I’ll look into it! Thanks anon!

>>9654053
That makes sense! I’m normally a pear or small hour glass when I’m at lower weights, so with the weight I’m at I’m now this awkward scrunched pear shape.

I actually feel a bit better knowing that there’s stuff I can do and that the answer has kind of been this simple; I’m just an idiot and overthought things.

Thanks gulls, I don’t really have any female friends to talk about this stuff with so talking to likeminded (or people who at least understand) folks helps a lot. That’s a different feels for a different day
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>>9654035
What if I can't live without the burando on you, though?
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>>9654056
Unfortunately all of the woman in my extended family are very top heavy and ridiculously overweight so I'm probably more genetically inclined to gain weight if I'm not careful. I'm also not the youngest motherfucker out there anymore so weight gets harder and harder for me to lose. Though being moderately active and being very food conscious has been my saving grace.
It's important to learn what portion size is actually right for your body and adjust it to how much you exercise. It's also extremely important to not go full - autism on things like dieting and exercise because you might end up burning out and yo-yoing back up. It's also important to not go back to the same old once you hit your target weight because you might just gain it all back. Your healthy life is your new routine. Though this is also not to say you can't treat yourself on occasion but make sure you actually moderate it.

For me, sure I can eat those cookies but I'm only eating two. I want that whole fucking sleeve but at this point I can walk away from it.
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>>9654041
https://tall.life/height-percentile-calculator-age-country/
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>>9654140
Tallest measured male height is in Netherlands and even that doesn't reach 6'0, it's around 5'11 something
and that's the tallest country in the world. 6'2 is definitely tall, not you're stand out and look like a giant tall, but taller than the vast majority of people.
>pic related is self measured

If you're american I understand your confusion because you have OCD over it so in results every guy adds 1 or 2 inches to their real height.
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>>9654144
Of course people add to their height, for guys it's what determines your luck in dating, you salary, and most aspects of your life
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>>9654155
its an attractive feature sure but its so exaggerated on the internet and its blown out on 4chan
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>>9654144
I live in the Netherlands, and while my standards for tall are higher than most people's because well, everyone here is tall, a 6'2'' guy is definitely tall to me.
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>>9654155
>salary
What, are you filling out your height on job forms
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>>9654023
I struggled with same feels really long until I just decided to finally make real change in my life. I have been struggling with super slow metabolism and tiredness but after doctor didn't investigate it I realised it's never gonna change on it's own. Since April I have lost 5-6kg, 5cm from my waist and few from my bust. I'm not near perfect yet (I'm now 5'4 and 143lbs) but it has somehow changed how I view myself, too. Maybe it's because I actually found the courage to challenge myself and made change that will stick which I never thought I would be able to make. I just wanted to say you can do it anon, but don't force it or it won't stick. Good luck, I wish we can both be here in these threads someday celebrating our completed lifestyle change!
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>>9654171
there is a correlation between salary and height but mainly because people from upper-class tend to be taller. it applies to both gender though, not just men
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>>9654171
Taller people and more attractive people typically come from richer families AND get promotions/jobs easier.
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>>9652266
I work in surgery you can bet those kids aren't there tomorrow.

Surgical lolita
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>>9654023
when i was a teenager i always hated my body, had eating disorders yadayada and i always felt as if my boobs were something that did not belong to me, like two weird lumps of fat just hanging out on my body. my biggest wish was to do breast surgery. now i am 27, been free from eating disorders for ten years ish, and i still have days where im like wtf boobs what are you!? why are you here!? but most days i just let them sit there and be weird, because they are MY boobs and regarless how strange i think they look i just try to focus on other stuff on my body. or not focus on my body at all. just focus on the fun things you can do with the body! run, laugh, etc! go to the gym but not to work out, go there to stare at old ladies and regular women in the changing room. find out what real bodies look like. that helped me a lot. ok not stare but you get the picture. there is nothing wrong with you. if you cant fit into j fashion, well find other ways! if you really love a fashion dont let your body stop you! i am 165 and used to weigh 100 kg, now im 80 kg, but at both sizes i have been able to dress in jfashion and be hella cute too. there is nothing wrong with your body. learn to embrace it. be nice to it. it deserves it.
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>>9654155
Where the hell do you live?
I'm, 6,4 and have a shitty underpaid job.
I won't deny it affects dating, but saying we get paid more is pretty dumb.
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>>9654204
They said correlation, not internationally enforced law.
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>recently dealing with really shitty depression with the added bonus of being newly neet in a new state/land when i was both a full time worker and full time student.
>go to a bigger lolita event
>make a few new friends
>feelsgoodman

I hadnt been to a meet up in over 6 months because i was moving. It felt good but in my area they dont meet that often and the group is so small and tightknit im nervous to go. Sadly the new friends i made live a few hours away and are too broke/sick to travel to meet me halfway more than a few times per year.
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>>9652411
>mfw
Cgl keeps saying it will happen but fucking WHEN.
I can't wait for all that old, super rare and cheap second hand brand. I wish everyone would just hurry up and leave lolita.
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>>9654212
Big breasts are also shown to get you paid more even dressing modestly in an office job. Should chestlets start mentioning that every time body types come up? It's literally anything seen as more attractive, just like you other people like conventionally attractive people. Teeth, hair, skin color, eye color, eyebrows, and etc. It's like a sjw trying to go on about privilege.
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>>9654225
Are you me?
Sorry gulls, I'm the one low-balling you on LM cuz you can't sell your shit.
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>>9654238
Cool so when do I start making more money for being an attractive woman with large tits because I have yet to see a raise that wasn’t just associated with a predetermined employee review.
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>>9654246
It's not a guaranteed thing, but it's rather that being attractive makes life a bit easier for you. People will be nicer to you and make nicer assumptions about you whether you're male or female.
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>tfw socially awkward autist
>no longer in contact with friends from school/college, only 'friends' now are bf, parents and in-laws
>become more active in lolita comm
>start getting along and regularly hanging out with specific people at meets
>are we friends now?
>never interact with them outside meets so probably not
HOW DO I MAKE FRIENDS ANONS I'm way too old to be this inept at this stuff. I just want to hang out with cool people on the weekends, have coffee and bake, do some crafting, whatever. But I worry that if I single one or two people out to invite to coffee they'll be creeped out or something. How do I gauge if someone wants to spend more time with me? Is there some scanner I can buy? I have literally not made friends by myself since I was in middle school, everyone I befriended in college was closer to my bff at the time than to me, I have no idea what I'm doing don't laugh send help
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>>9654266
Don't worry anon, the next meet you attend just ask someone to hang out, if you don't want to ask them on facebook or whatever. It's not creepy at all.
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>>9654246
If you're gonna compare it to boobs, the current attitude on men's height would be like if people said anything under DD cups were tiny tits and guys would declare that they won't even talk to girls with DAD or lower cup sizes. People, especially the girls here, have unreasonable, unrealistic ideas about what is tall and what's average
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>>9654266
Honestly if they don't want to they will just say no, and they won't judge you for it
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>>9654283
Men DO say that kind of thing about girls with small boobs, though. I’m not denying the height thing with men, but that unreasonable standard for the opposite sex absolutely goes both ways.
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>>9654266
>Find movie coming out soon/out recently which they're likely to want to see
>"Hey, I was going to check out Movie X, you guys up for it?"
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>>9654292
About small boobs yes, but o was trying to point out the fact that no one says all boobs under a DD cup size are tiny, but the girls here think any guy under 6'5 is short
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>>9654292
We make value judgements, for sure, but we still take what we can get
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>>9653957
And people say /cgl/ isn't female /r9k/. This is grade A cuck material right here. Switch the sexes and look at how obvious it is you're being played hard.
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>>9654297
>no one says all boobs under a DD cup size are tiny

You've never spent another second on any other board I take it? Or reddit, any place with porn, any movie review, video game/steam forums, or any place where anime is discussed then? Even women refuse to believe an actual b-cup like the average Japanese lolita model is average for skinny women. Out of all the comparisons you've made that's actually the closest.
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>>9654297
Again, except they do. Just like there are shallow women judging men by height, there are shallow men who judge boob size. There’s shit slinging on both sides.
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>>9654268
>>9654295
I'm going to try this, thanks!

>>9654284
I appreciate the sentiment but I'm not sure about that, considering the kind of gossip I hear about others in the comm that are considered creepy. Granted those people really are kind of creepy and weird... but maybe I am too? Creepy people are rarely aware of their own creepiness.
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>>9654310
The difference is, women can use pads or even go through plastic surgery, while men are stuck in their height, you can't grow 10 cm overnight.

Don't get me wrong i'm not saying that women with small breasts have to go through surgery. You have to be very insecure to fuck with your body like that desu.
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>>9654334
>people who can have plastic surgery are so privileged
>Don't have that though

Is this bait?
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>browsing lolita shops
>Beautiful gothic headdress shows up
>Takeallmymoney.jpg
>Description says it's made with rabbit fur
>Looks at own rabbit
Why can't i have nice things without torturing an animal?
>>9654334
Men can use stuff to look taller too.
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>>9654340
sadly in China it's easier to just use real rabbit fur instead of faux fur
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>>9654337
>a $20k-$30k procedure that has a recovery time of about 1 week is the same as a $180k procedure where you BREAK YOUR FUCKING LEGS and wait for 4 months for them to grow back before doing it another 2-3 times
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>>9654340
It's dead anon, it can't feel pain now. Rabbit meat is also normal to eat, just because you have a rabbit doesn't mean it's not a animal mainly raised for being eaten. They also harvest it's fur, nothing weird with that.
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>>9654340
In my country we eat rabbit pretty regularly, at least they are doing something with the fur.
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>>9654340
killing an animal doesn't mean it's tortured anon, they don't actually skin them alive.
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>>9654374
That depends on if it's Chinese-made or not, frankly
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>>9654377
Try to skin a living animal.
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>>9654377
no, nobody skins rabbits alive. They'd move around so much it'd be impossible, and it takes like 2 seconds to snap their neck and kill them without them feeling pain.
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>>9654362
>missing the point
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>>9654380
Ahem
http://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/fashion-watches/article/1385942/video-chinese-farmers-ripping-fur-live-rabbits-damages
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>>9654386
>posting an article where even China condemns the practice
>this is somehow evidence that China does this all the time
are you really this big of an idiot anon?
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>>9654389
>Private business won't secretly engage in practices which people find distasteful
For real?
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>>9654390
you've gone way too crazy for me anon, I'm not following your batshit crazy peta rant.
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>>9654392
Regular Chinese citizens were appalled by it, obviously.
But this is only a problem for companies if they're unfortunate enough to get caught. Chinese companies are notoriously lacking scruples when it comes to animal rights, skinning animals alive is not uncommon (https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltobias/2012/11/02/animal-rights-in-china/), and it's only an issue if the public find out, which they're generally unlikely to do. This will be no different for rabbits, especially given the scale of Angora farming in China. Why on Earth wouldn't you assume this is common practice?
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>>9654390
If it was easier, yes, I would belive that somewhere, someone skins rabbits alive. Have you ever seen an animal? Do you think skinning an alive animal is easier than just killing it?
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>>9654395
fuck off back to tumblr holy shit
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>>9654396
>I would belive that somewhere, someone skins rabbits alive
There's literally video footage of it happening >>9654386
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>>9654398
Are you this desperate to justify your support of unethical producers?
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>>9654340
I too have rabbits and do not buy anything with real fur. There's honestly faux fur that looks and feels exactly like rabbit fur anyway but I'm not gonna crawl up anyone's ass if they decide to buy real irl. Most people don't take rabbits as seriously as cat and dog tier pets though that just proves they've never actually interacted with them. They're basically cats that hop but good forbid you tell someone their cat would look wonderful as a coat.

If I were you I'd remake it myself with faux fur but I do also understand that not everyone is skilled with making their own stuff.
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>>9654400
fuck off retard. This isn't the place for your batshit crazy PETA crusade against some rural Chinese farmers
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>>9654402
>crazy PETA crusade against some rural Chinese farmers
Is it really crazy to be appalled by people ripping fur from a screaming, live animal?
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>>9654405
it's crazy to go on a cosplay/egl site and start spewing shit about the "evil capitalists" and corporations while posting PETA videos as concrete evidence.
This whole situation is off topic, and the first post was barely even on topic. It's pretty obvious you just did this because you wanted to spew some bullshit and had a bunch of articles prepared when someoen called bullshit on you, because ripping fur off live animals is so rare that you had to look for a PETA video of it heppenning in rural buttfuck middle of nowhere China to prove your point.

sage for this wildly off topic thread
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>>9654405
Like i get the idea behind this but sorry, this is 4chan. I don't know what you were expecting from this ruffly cesspool but it's not going to be asspats over animal rights. Sage for retardation.
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>>9654408
>spewing shit about the "evil capitalists"
>China
>evil capitalists
What the fuck?
>while posting PETA videos as concrete evidence.
It is video of the act being committed, what more do you want?
>off topic
You can follow the thread, can't you?
>and had a bunch of articles prepared when someoen called bullshit on you
I wiki'd it
>you had to look for a PETA video
>PETA
>PETA
>PETA
>IT STOPS BEING TRUE IF PETA SAY IT
gg bunny hater
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>>9654417
pure autism
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>>9654423
>disdain for buns
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>>9654266
>has bf
>Has regular group of people to meet with that have similar interests
>complaining that there is no one to hang out with

Like complaining that you have so much money that you don't know where to spend it.

>>9654283
>>9654292
This might sounds crazy, but people judge others superficially no matter the gender, but not everyone does it.
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Does anyone know that one brand ageplayer who posts on instagram?
One of my super normie friends from high school with a sizable amount of followers (25k, ergo even more exposure) left a comment on one of her pictures in lolita gushing over how cute she thought she was.
I'm honestly so baffled. Is this what most normies know of lolita, then? Is my friend an ageplayer? This can't be normal.
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>>9654427
I have no idea how anyone can live with that amount of cognitive dissonance
it's like the girls at cons and parties who party every weekend and some random person's house, but claim to have "social anxiety". I assume it has to do with wanting to feel like a victim.
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>>9654430
If we're thinking about the same girl, she's been posted in the last few ita threads almost regularly. Your friend has terrible taste and is tragically oblivious.
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>>9654430
Most normies know jackshit about lolita. MAYBE they recognize it as "being from Japan" but for me it's either "Is there an event going on?" OR "Is that from an anime?" Not so much ageplay as long as you act like a fucking human if approached.

Your friend might very well just be any idiot BUT if she knows what ageplay is and still comments like that... you might have a problem one your hands.
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> Tfw little sister is thinner and takes so much more time and effort in her appearance then you
> Tfw you get your shit together, lose weight, gain confidence, and start to put more effort into looking nice.
> Tfw even though you're a DDD, you some how manage to fit into your AatP, the Destiny Arcana JSKI and still tie the ribbon into a bow while her barrel chested B can't
> Tfw it's the first time you've ever been smaller then her besides shoes
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>>9654430
im pretty sure every teenager girl who grew up without a father read lolita and from that it only takes 5 sec to type it into google.
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>>9654432
My sister in law does this fucking shit all the goddamn times. She refers to her spoiled ass regular dog as her “emotional support animal” and calls herself an “introverted extrovert”
Girl fuck you and your basic white bitch “career” or being a stay at home mom/sometimes “professional photographer”.
This twat told my husband when she got married (before we met) that she was “doing something with her life, unlike you”. Then she promptly popped out a kid which is her doll to make her an insta-mommy which she thinks makes her famous

I cannot stand this insufferable bitch UGHHH
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I think I have a shopping problem...
I make decent money but just recently got in over my head with an expensive lolita purchase. I can't help it. The wait of something in the mail, opening it feels like Christmas... It's one of the only things that makes me happy right now.

I'm trying to get into jewelry making so that I can make something with my hands instead of staring at my computer screen, but then I need to buy supplies and it is just a downward slide from there. When I asked for help, they tried to stop me from buying ANYTHING online, which just backfired. I buy personal care items like deodorant, shampoo, etc, online, and it made me stop caring for myself.

I love lolita, but putting together coords is so dangerous. I'll have everything I need but one thing, and the next thing I know, I've bought 2 or 3 more things to plan completely new coords around. The mail thread/Taobao/Aliexpress/resin threads all make me want to buy. Selling is so slow and tedious. I'm too depressed half the time to even get up from my computer to photograph stuff.

What do I do?
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>>9652769
what kinda surgery did you get?
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>>9652999
idk why I laughed for a solid few minutes reading this. Is this what we all fear?
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>>9654771
Nayrt but I'm betting anon got a boob job
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>>9654636
your obsession with your little sister's looks is really weird desu
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>>9654427
There's a big difference between people who I have shallow conversation with once a month and having friends, but even the shallow conversation gives me enough anxiety that I start physically trembling around the end of every meet and vomit as soon as I get home. I'm sorry I'm not quite pathetic enough for you if all I want is a woman my age I can talk to about shared interests for more than two hours a month.
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>>9654144
>Belgium
>tfw I found out my husband is a manlet
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A girl in my comm got banned for brandishing pepper spray.

Also, my old bf is having a baby with my old boss.
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> selling items in my wardrobe just so I can have extra money for necessities
> gets massive urge to buy more lolita clothes
> mfw
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>>9654809
She constantly makes comparisons between us and looked down on me when I was fat and goes on and on about how many people tell her she's pretty, brags about how she can go out in public with out a bra and how my bras could be used as hats. She also thought it was stupid how happy I was that the JSK fit with out me having to get a binder and thought she'd fit in it no problem
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>>9654983
You can survive a month without food it's fine.
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I love my cat so much
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>>9654238
Oh fuck I should have stayed overweight and just toned up instead of basically losing one centimeter of bust for every kilogram.
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>>9653181
>anecdotal evidence
>thinks a headache is "a bit of a migraine"

There's no such thing as a bit of a migraine, they are full on torture and not at all minor. Good thing you're on birth control, you're a moron.
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>>9654426
I love buns too and am disgusted, they're just trying to rile you up. I miss my bunny Pookins. She was a brown rex.
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>>9655113
Cats are the best
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>tfw measured self and waist is finally under 70 cm
I'm so happy! I have 16 more lbs to go until I reach my final goal, hoping to hit it before the year ends but I'm satisfied with my steady progress. I just want to fit into more unshirred brand without having to check the measurements first.
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>>9654901
>not telling us the story behind the pepper spray
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>>9654771
>>9654808
Eyes (had monolids prior), nose, and had my jaw shaved
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>>9655131
Thank you. I have chronic migraines and it pissed me off when people call their headaches migraines bc it devalues them for the rest of us. That's why my boss laughs in my face when I call in with a migraine while I'm on the floor throwing up and half blind.
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>>9655405
One of the other girls said she had a Fruit Loop, but it was a Cheerio.
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It's wrong to use the connected bathroom for a #2 during tea.
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>Wunderwelt order finally came in
>Parasol and bag that I was planning to use for university
>Forgot to double-check the bag measurements
>It's way smaller than I need to put all of my stuff in
>I'm such an idiot
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Someone in my comm just beat cancer so I'm p happy.
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>tfw no bf to tell me I look cute in Lolita
>Why .am .I even.alive
Also I'm probably gonna fall back into my old habits of starving myself yo I hate being alive
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>>9655632
i'll tell you that you are cute if you date me.
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>>9655632
>>9655639
this right here is /cgl/ is a nutshell
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Positive feels. Someone was actually really nice to me the other day in another thread. I made a suggestion and they looked into it and thanked me for my advice and it made me feel all warm and fuzzy. That's all, didn't think it worthy of greentext.
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>>9655799
wholesome
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so I'm 175 (5ft 8 57/64 according to google) and I've just lost 10 kg, so now I'm down to 71kg (156,5lbs) which my parents say is a good healthy weight for me, but I want to lose a bit more so I'll fit better in cute clothes. I'm just afraid I'll develop an ed form it. Any help gulls? how low is too low for me?
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I pass when I crossplay (mtf), and have posted many times on here without a single thing said about it. But seeing other mtf crossplays or even mtf girls posts getting slated or they themselves having their appearance called out in less than flattering ways is disgusting, and I dont get why it happens so prominently
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>>9651169
sure is some dum tumblr shit.

lemme carefully craft this picture to explain how i'm soooo different, specifically so that i can get thousands of likes of social media.


did i mention: i'm so alone?




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