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Previous Thread: >>9771665

>Please read the FAQ (always updating)
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>How to order from Vograce (now with video on how to set up files)
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So who's making merch of the new Overwatch lunar skins?
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>>9781786
Not here. I'm kind of the opinion this year's LNY skins seem a little too cluttered. Also since I mainly do chibis, it'd be kind of hard to translate all the little details. But I'm excited to see what merchandise other artists decide to produce for the skins.
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Can anyone tell me anything about what styles/brands of phone charm straps are the strongest? I have some new charms that are quite a bit heavier than my others, and I worry that my usual straps won't be up to the task.
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Do you think I'd catch much flack for having a "4chan meme" sticker?

I do mostly shoujo/magical girl stuff, but a few friends have been suggesting I do a kawaii version of this "meme". It would just be one sticker among many "normal" ones, and I think I disguised it well enough. Table mate is worried we might get negative attention over it...but I think its cute and will make anyone that gets it happy. Thoughts or experiences from anyone that's done similar?
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>>9782083
It depends on your meme? Is it something offensive or like... is it just harmless? If it's just your regular meme fare, memes end up on Tumblr and Reddit too so depending on what it is people won't even make the 4chan connection.
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>>9781786
thinking about it for genji and mercy. maybe just stickers or something though.

Really waiting for the anniversary event for new skins that aren't tied to a holiday tho.
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>>9782086
It's a pepe. Actually very harmless but table mate is worried about the whole Hillary saying they're for white supremacists or whatever. I think most people at a con understand that was all hilarious bullshit, but they're still worried. I think we'd be fine. They'll just be tiny $1 things.
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>>9782112
Depends on your audience
I know mine wouldn't give a shit and I doubt any of my customers would be put off by it.
If you tend to sell a lot to tumblr type crowd it's possible that it might make or break a sale. Like it wouldn't fly at the tables that are entirely centered on feminist/bodyposi/pro-lgbt themes. It'd probably do fine at a table that mostly targets young males and and/or who's art would put off a lot of people who would be offended by Pepe in the first place.
You sound like you fall inbetween, but you should be able to have a decent idea of what your following/audience is like if you've done more than a few cons. Some artists' followings are more prone to outrage than others.
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am i the only one weirded out by this thread getting traction when the tweet they're bitching about is just "zines are expensive, don't start them if you don't have cash"?

like yeah zines used to mean cheapo saddlestitched books with comics or sketches, but most zines these days are full-coolor illustrations? i don't get the point of encouraging the idea that zines are cheap to make when you're referring to a definition of "zine" that isn't as mainstream these days and intentionally giving people the wrong idea because you're pedantic

i'm just sick of people who try to push that merch is easy to make because you get organizers who don't understand anything they're doing. it's put me off from applying from zines entirely.
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>>9782083
If there is one thing teens are anime conventions absolutely hate, it is memes /s
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>>9782156
This whole argument is so annoying. The fact is that if fan artists were to go through all the trouble of organizing and making their illustrations, and then just print it as a photocopy zine, absolutely no one would buy it. One of my table partners did something like this before and people wouldn't even take it for free.
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>>9781786
I was thinking of making a montage of new skins.
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>>9782156
"It can even be free"
??????
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>>9782083
No, because you're asking those of us who browse 4chan.

try asking a normie, who might have an opinion about these things.
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>>9782156
Yeah, this is dumb. Every comics person I know thought this was dumb. They're derailing a helpful post over semantics.
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>>9782377
>i.e. you print it home.

The 'cheapest' way would probably be photocopying at a local library or print shop and stapling it yourself.
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>>9782112
Oh Pepe is associated with Twitch streamers more than anything else at this point. You'll be fine.
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So those furry cons that have different artists in the AA each day at random, how much can you usually pull in at them for a day with little prints, stickers, and commissions?

There's a small one with maybe about 1k people or less, but I'm thinking about doing it, because it's always been flurries who have paid the most for commissions with me. Yet I don't know if it would be worth going out of state for.
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>>9782574
out of state? no. You'll make a couple hundreds dollars at most. enough to cover costs, but not more.
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>>9782574
>>9782698
Yeah, seconding. I made $200 at one last year, having gotten pulled by the lottery multiple days, but I wasn't as prepared as other people.
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>>9782377
I was assuming a digital zine/print on demand service.
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>>9782574
I wouldn't go out of state for that. There's no guarantee you'll even get a spot and if you do you'll likely not cover more than the cost of going. If there's one relatively close to you go for it but be sure you offer on the spot commissions you can complete during the con because that's the biggest seller with fur cons.
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>>9782112

If someone gives you shit over it, you can explain the actual backstory of Pepe and the fact that the character was actually appropriated by the alt-right from an independent artist who has done nothing but beg people to let his character represent something good again. Tell them to google Matt Furie. The guy murdered his character in his own comics because nazis loved him so much.
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>>9782833
If you really think this is all the meaning that Pepe holds you really are >new and don’t belong here.

Feelsbadman and feelsgoodman existed for far longer than anything Furie intended or even political use of Pepe
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>>9782878
but normies will be >new too, anon
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Anyone applied for AnimeCTX? Their AA app page has been open for ages, but haven't heard shit from them
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>>9782878

I don't see your point? My point is that the original creator of the character and the art doesn't support nazis, which should count for something. If you're arguing that the meme's previous life as the harmless FeelsBlankMan counts for more than it's association with Nazis, that hasn't been true since Richard Spencer showed it off on TV right before he got punched in the face. Normies and youths think it's a hate symbol. All I was offering was a defense.
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Anybody knows what "magic star" lamination from Vograce charms looks like? Is it like Holographic or what?
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>>9783237
I meant badges sorry.
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>>9783079
lmao I applied a while back too, haven't heard from them either. Last year I got my acceptance email in May. Anyway this is the usual it's the same people who run Ikkicon.
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>>9783237
It's a sparkly/glitery kind of surface not as obnoxious as the broken glass/hobby lobby lamination but a nice soft glitter finish.
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>>9783237
Similar to their glitter charms but with a matte finish.
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>>9782156
Where tf are they finding these free ones, I only even get $2 quotes at quantities of 500 or more
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>>9783505
>>9783515
Thank you! That sounds interesting, I will try to grab some square ones next time they open.
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>>9783550
Free zines are made at the library and hand stapled/folded or whatever, the commentary they are attaching to that tweet is blown out of proportion and context and it's really gross how those people were making fun of the OP for "not knowing what a zine is" and "not doing their research" when the OP OBVIOUSLY was not referring to hand made indie punk zines.

The OP deleted their whole thread and is taking a break from twitter because ~~~ HARD CORE PUNK ANARCHISTS ~~~ types wouldn't stop quote retweeting it and telling them they were stupid/ignorant. So annoying.
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>>9783504
Is it? I thought it was a different group that started a con because they were sick of Ikki.
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SoCal AA gulls - does anybody have any experience or knowledge about Anime Conji this year? If you've tabled there, what was it like?

I'm applying for a couple of the small single-day events that are on campus for universities but I'm pretty new to AA - if anybody's got any general advice regarding that, would be much appreciated.
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>>9783572
it sucks because these indie zine snobs stated they knew that op was referring to fandom zines, which are just another word for indie artbook collabs, but they were so pissed that "zine" means something else in different circles they insisted on spreading misinformation

like for fuck's sake it's not that often that a decent twitter merch thread goes up (looking at that sad "merch 'secrets' artists won't tell you" thread)
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Ive never made grabbags but always assumed people put slow-selling/ unpopular/ or discontinued merch inside to move it. However today on AANI people were talking about putting their flawed merch in grabbags. I think thats pretty shitty to do but is it common?
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>>9784139
i don't think its shitty as long as its made obvious its your fuck-ups. maybe make them even cheaper than normal grab bags.
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>>9784175
Call them oops bags or something cute
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>>9784139
I don’t think it’s that common, that sounds pretty scummy. I think it’s fine if artists clearly mark them as flawed merch grab bags though.
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>>9784139
I don't know how common it is, but I do think it's shitty. Customers aren't stupid, if they see other people opening your bags and finding garbage, they're not going to come try their own luck. I think dumping old/unpopular merch is fine, but including at least one hot/current goodie is both decent and better business.
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>>9784139
I've sold specifically labelled seconds grab bags, as long as it's properly labelled / named it seems fine to me.
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Does anyone know if people who got accepted first into Fanime will get table selection priority over people who get off the waitlist later on? Do we get an earlier date for selection and they get whatever is left?? I would hate to fight waitlistees once it comes to the table hunger games, I feel like it would be unfair to us.
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Sorry if this is asked a lot, I've never sold in AA and didn't see it in the FAQ.

How many different artworks should I have before I even consider selling in an artist's alley? For both a small con and a big con?

I haven't been to a convention in like 5+ years so I can't really remember what artist alleys are like in terms of what kind of prints sell (fanart ofc, but I mean more specific as in compositionally).
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>>9784315
Enough that your table looks full, and that if you sold just a couple of everything you would break even your costs. That means different things depending on the kind and size of merch you're selling.

My first successful con where I made profit I had 10 prints (11x17), 5 mini prints (5x7), About 30 buttons and 5 acrylic charms. I split the booth with a friend.

I had significantly less than that at my first con and did poorly because of it - almost all my money for my first con came from commissions, because although what I had sold decently I just didn't have enough to sell.
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I know little chibis of K-pop idols are popular, but is there an audience for J-pop chibis (like Perfume or BiSH)?
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>>9784298
iirc people who got accepted first get first pick of tables when they go up. They're pretty bad at contacting waitlisted people if at all which is why there's always a good chunk of empty tables.

Speaking of, were you able to pay for the table? the site still says "completing testing on the back-end of the site" not sure if I should email them since we have until March 1 but I don't want to be lax if people have already secured their table and everything...
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>>9784431
Table choices don't open until April according to the website, so you don't need to worry about that. Emailing them to push them along with the process probably isn't a bad idea, though.
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>>9784506
I'll probably pop over an email then, hopefully with enough artists bugging them they'll get it done quicker!.
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>>9784431
I thought it was just me. So no one has been able to pay yet? I wonder why more people didn't bring this up.
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>>9783629
I tabled each year it existed and there were both decent and awful years. But, given the history of it and where it's moving forward, my past experiences in the artist alley aren't going to be useful for you to know. First it was run by SanSFiS, then SPJA (who fired everyone running it), now it's back with SanSFiS, however the staff is now almost entirely different from the original organization. I believe it's going to be being run by the hanadoki staff, so I'd expect it to be similar to hanadoki if you've been there before. Other than that, it's hard to say since they haven't gotten much together yet.
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As a Canadian, is AN more worth it or Fanime?
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>>9784660
because no one got in
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>>9784431
Usually even if you pay for the table, you still have to play the waiting game for table selection to go up. Fanime is kinda slow with these things.
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>>9784427
jpop seems pretty dead in the west, so i doubt it.

i'd say do it as a personal passion project if you're willing to potentially eat the cost
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>>9784427
Perfume has a pretty cult following, however they're adamant about only purchasing official merch.
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Feeling pretty undeserving of my spot at Fanime... I usually make in higher 4 digits but my art is really generic and moe, sigh
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>>9785018
is it still a humblebrag if you're fishing at the same time
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>>9785073
considering all my friends make 5 digits and are much more skilled than me, i am constantly feeling imposter syndrome and waiting for my bubble to burst. trust me the only reason I make anything is selling out to generic shiny moeshit which anyone can do if they can sacrifice dignity
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>>9785077
this seems better suited for your priv than 4chan
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AN's rules are so stupid, first charms not allowed in the Comic Market for being too bootleg but they're allowed in Dealers and Crafters Corner. Now they're allowed but no more art in Dealers because it's too bootleg.
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>>9785018
I don't know how I got in either. I won't even say so on social media in case you bitches start making fun of my art lol.
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>>9784760
do you live in the province? If so then AN is worth it. It's my biggest local con for sales.

>>9785087
maybe they'll finally just put the 2 sections back together if these shifts keep happening. It was so much easier back when everything was just in one section.
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>>9785018
>>9785088
I don't know if you guys are being serious or making ironic jokes, but if you're being serious this is sad. You should never feel bad for getting in to a convention that's juried, especially because some salty ass fake bitches in the AA thread on 4chan said so. When I got my acceptance email, I too for a moment felt undeserving of my spot because most of my friends were rejected. Then I thought, if I don't feel deserving of it now, then I'm going to work my ass off so that I DO feel deserving. And I sure as hell won't feel bad for people who are sore losers that put others down to justify their own lack of acceptance. You didn't get in? Oh fanime judges are just blind/don't know anything about art. Or they're homophobic. Or its nepotism. These are ALL excuses that have been thrown around in these threads. At the end of the day, everyone here masks it as some concern for the system, but really it's just the product of a bunch of toxic people who throw temper tantrums when they don't get their way.

Anyway, both those accepted and rejected should seriously let it go at this point. You got in and don't feel deserving? Work hard so you can at least use it as an excuse to improve your skill and merch. You got waitlisted but feel deserving? Go through accepted artists and see what they did that may be missing in your own artwork and adapt. Fanime was looking for a specific style this year and it's easy to see if you just go through social media to see who posted their acceptance.
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>>9785244
I agree that people shouldn't feel guilty for getting in because it's not their fault (the jury's problem is not your proble) but your defense of the jury is laughable. Again, what should someone like Kidchan do to not be waitlisted? What are you doing better than them? What is this easy specific style you refer to?

>>9784660
Because it literally happens every year and everyone who's done fanime before knows its never on time and they just wait. Everyone asking has never done it before.
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lets create our own artist alley with blackjack and hookers
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>>9785244
I mean, your way is one way to think of it. While I agree that anon shouldn't feel bad about getting in, my reasoning is based on the fact that the jury system doesn't function based on 'who deserves it'. It's luck. You might not have deserved to get in, but you got in, so just thank your lucky stars for it. You can't change or control the jury's decisions, so why waste too much energy fretting over it y'know. Those who are higher in skill who didn't get in are right to be salty, and those who are lower in skill who did get in are right to feel guilty. But you can both acknowledge the unfairness and thank your blessings.
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>>9785320
NAYRT and I understand why people are annoyed but whenever people keep posting this comparison I feel like it only... makes you seem petty as fuck? There are some artists who got in that I've seen on Twitter who are comparable to the artists on the right in terms of skill so your image just seems cherrypicked.

Honestly, Fanime should just come out and tell people their jury is by tiers (beginner artists grouped together, intermediate grouped together, higher level artists grouped together, etc) because that's what it seems like with specific quotas for certain skill tiers.
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>>9785425
Nayrt, but
>so your image seems cherrypicked
I'm pretty sure they’re not arguing that great artists didn’t get in, just that you shouldn’t call it juried if you can find even one artist like the left one when the ones on the right were rejected, that’s all. The skill gap in that pic is insane. I agree with them, and I didn’t even apply.

I also agree w/ you that if they said they had a tiered jury then no one could complain, that seems like the fairest way to go especially to have a diverse AA.
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>>9785244
>criticizes people's theories about fanime and why they rejected certain artists/artstyles
>comes up with own theory to justify why they got in ("they were looking for a *~specific style~* uwu you would see it if you looked harder owo")

Sit your ass down, we got in by luck and you know it lmao.
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>>9785351
sounds like you’re describing SnafuCon
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>>9785517
Thanks for proving my point! It's a shame someone with such a shitty attitude like you got a table over someone who might have cared more.
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>>9785517
>>9785593
Is it possible that there's a middle ground instead of these two extremes?

>"lmao Fanime results are random and everyone who got in just did so because of luck/no one who got into Fanime this year is talented"
This makes you sound like a petty asshole who's just mad that they didn't get accepted. I actually saw someone on Twitter tell their followers to email Fanime and complain because they personally didn't get accepted? That kind of shit is ridiculous and spits in the face of your fellow artists.

>"Try harder/get better next time if you didn't get in this year!"
This makes you sound like a pretentious asshole who's ignoring the fact that Fanime has had a history of inconsistent judging despite releasing their rubric publicly. It's not just a matter of trying harder when Fanime keeps changing their own rubric rules.

As other anons have pointed out, it seems likely that Fanime either sets tables aside for newbies or does jury via skill level. We should be pushing for Fanime to be more transparent with their jury process (i.e. - admit that it's not the rubric score alone that decides acceptance) instead of fighting each other. At the end of the day, Fanime gets to choose who gets to come because it's their con and they can be selective in any way they want - even if it means setting aside tables for newbies that could have gone to veteran artists. BUT - they should be making this stuff public knowledge so when artists apply, they're aware from the start and not blindsided by the huge skill gap when the results are announced.
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>>9785244

This honestly sounds like a load of shit you've come up with to justify your presence at the con. At the end of the day you know something is up with the jury system, but it benefited you in the end, so why question it?

Your ending statement is ridiculous. You can't possibly think it's actually as easy as just choosing to emulate the artists who got in. What a terrible fucking strategy. The point everyone is making is that it's become clearer each year that no amount of work, improvement, or careful tailoring of portfolios can actually improve your chances of getting into this con. Everyone rejected feels helpless. They don't feel like they've been given a fair chance. If there was anything to indicate the judging was actually fair on some level then most of them would shut up.

Your entitled attitude isn't helping at all. You're not actually better than everyone who got rejected, and on some level you know it, because you're making up these excuses for it. Accept that you got lucky.
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Some of you are thinking 2 or 3k profit is good and are salty you didn't get in I'm sure
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>>9785605
I agree with you although due to the sheer number of applicants it's pretty hard to ensure everyone who "deserves" it gets in, so I guess lottery would be a fairer choice. But lotteries are rigged to get friends in as well because then there's absolutely no form of transparency so go figure...
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>>9783592
anime overload was created some years back and was taken over by the same people as ikkicon then turned into animectx afaik
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I wonder if the fanime people continue to do this every year just because they enjoy watching the delicious drama unfold online
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>>9785817
I remember ALA used to hold lotteries at their staff meetings and invite anyone to attend for transparency's sake. So they would physically draw the names onsite and and of the artists could attend to witness it themselves. Afterwards, they'd post a list of the names in drawn order for the accepted artists and the waitlist artists.

This probably is too much to ask of Fanime though.
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>>9785843
Oh, that's a cool idea. I wish other cons would do it too (or even just stream it lol) but yeah, not holding my breath.
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The fanime talk is getting old
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Which girl characters are popular/trending right now? I feel like my interests don't align well with most people these days. I'm guessing the BNHA ones, DDLC,...?
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Speaking of girls, does anyone know if fanservice prints do well compared to regular ones?
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Who else got off waitlist for AB? Seems like they accepted a lot of tables.

Maybe they opened up more tables without saying?
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Mailing tubes through paypal shipping. Is this fine as long as you weigh it properly and click "irregular package"?
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>>9786258
yes
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>>9786166
I got in, I'm sorta afraid that they are just loading the alley up to make up for not accepting people with earlier timestamps but there was no way I was passing it up. Hopefully my fear is just a worst case bullshit scenario my crazy brain cooked up and the alley is going to be normal sized. -_-
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>>9786405
that's how I feel as well. with the way they dropped the ball this year I wouldn't be surprised if they're doing some shady shit.
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>>9786405
Someone was saying that they had to get fire marshal approval for something (most likely adding more tables in) before sending out the emails to people who sent in timestamp proof.
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>>9786405
>>9786426
>>9786475
They emailed me to let me know they couldn't give me my exact seating requests because they're redoing the floor plan after approval from the fire marshal to add in everyone from the timestamp fiasco. I'm not looking forward to how much bigger this AA might be.
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>>9786685
>>>9786405 (You)
>>>9786426
>>>9786475
ugh, my worst fears are seeming validated. this is going to make the whole alley suffer. great.
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Wait. WHAT. People feel BAD for getting into AAs now? Oooooooooooooo fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck them. I can see it now.

>>Twitter Post: Oh man, guys I'm so not worthy. I mean, thanks so much, but really, I'm not that good. I really hope everyone can get in next year.

>>All the replies: OMG, NO YOU ARE AMAZING. Can I plllllease suck your super humble dick? Can that giant thing please choke me as I pay you $20 for your bootleg fan art of FOTM characters that I love?

Fuck everyone. Get AAs shut down. For real.
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What do you do when you discover another artist has already done a really similar idea to something you've already committed a decent amount of time to?
Maybe I'm paranoid about being called out for art/intellectual theft, but this really sucks.
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>>9786761
Imagine being this stupid.
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>>9786782
Shh, don't feed the troll.

>>9786780
That really depends on what the concept is! It really sucks when you notice it after the fact but are there things you can do to differentiate your idea? How different is your art style from that artists'?

For example, let's say an artist did tarot-card themed keychains for a fandom. If this was say something like Persona - it wouldn't matter if you also did tarot-themed keychains for the same fandom as tarot cards are an integral part of the game's aesthetic. But if the original artist did tarot keychains for a completely different piece of media and you were also thinking about doing the same for the same fandom, you could switch it up enough to be different from the other artist. For example if they did fullbody, you could do portrait busts, etc etc all while keeping to the theme you originally wanted.

If it's the case of similar poses - ask yourself if it's something that's already present within the work itself. (Sailor Moon's victory pose, Saitama punching, etc) If so then feel free to make your own version as they're all takes of the same iconic pose. But if it's something a little more loose/open to interpretation, I'd try a different composition so I wouldn't get accused of copying.
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>>9786790
It's not fandom or character specific but rather a really unfortunately similar theme/item.
I just logged into Twitter for the first time in months to see that someone I follow RTed another artist who did a crane-machine charm after I finally sent in my designs of a similar thing (different art style obviously, as well as different prizes).
I spent a lot of time thinking of unique ways to make charms, and now I just feel like I heard the news a week late.
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>>9786836

As long as you genuinely didn't copy them, it'll show. The art would be completely different. People can't claim ownership of general concepts like that. If they do try to start shit, just be honest and say it's coincidence, and leave it at that.
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>>9786836
I've seen a bunch of crane machine themed stuff, I wouldn't worry about it. But in future I would always post early WIPs and sketches just so there's solid proof you came up with the idea longer ago, that's my paranoid ass though
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>>9786881
NYART but sometimes I'm too afraid to post WIPs in case someone else sees mine and decides to make something similar before I finish.
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Is Acorn Press still alive?

Wondering since I did an order with them a while back and loved the charms, but this was before the whole shit storm with them happened. They haven't updated their tumblr since...
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>>9786900
Yeah, I don't post WIPs for this reason (and also because I'm chicken shit when it comes to putting myself out there with incomplete work) but I guess it's a good habit to get into.
>>9786876
Hopefully you're right. The art is very different, I just feel deflated and nervous I guess.
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>>9786915
Search twitter for acorn press, there are a bunch of recent complaints within the last month about them still having deadline and communication issues. I'd love to use them again, but I don't think I can handle it a second time.
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>>9786780
This actually JUST happened to me, but like other's said i knew my style and execution was extremely different even if the ideas the same. As a bonus, i was an acquaintance with the other artist so I ran it by them just in case and they agreed and appreciated my message in case any non artists start stupid drama.

So in conclusion, you do you. Unless both of you are very generic artists, there's almost no way it would be the same especially now you know what to avoid.
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How do you guys handle customers with "annoying" questions/comments? I just saw an AA apparel vendor on Twitter respond pretty rudely to a customer who made an innocuous comment about their fandom-themed hats.

Not sure if they meant to be publicly dismissive of their customer base when they could have just stated that they do custom orders if the customer wanted something changed and left it at that.
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>>9786780
I had this happen with a fan piece. Another artist and I were selling similar parody piece at the same con. Another artist mentioned it and I really didn't sweat it because it's a commonly done idea. I figured unless our art was super close in style most people would figure we just got the same idea.
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>>9786780
Do it better than them. My biggest pet peeve is ‘ no idea is original ‘ which apparently can excuse people’s shitty excuse to not come up other ideas.
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>>9787055

Personally, I try very hard to remember that the person is most likely not trying to be an asshole, they probably just did not see the dozen other times I answered the same question already, and that me being shitty to them as part of my clear public de-evolution into an animal with no desire to function in human society anymore due to the amount of dumb shit I have to answer on a daily basis will not be apparent to them through this single interaction, and they will form a permanent negative opinion of me as a result.

I try very very hard.
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This "artist" started popping up on my IG search and this person sells official anime art on his "hypebeast brand" stickers and clothing. Is there a way to quietly report him to cons?
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>>9787055
Is this what you're talking about
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>>9787251
Yikes.
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>>9787251
Sounds like they have a typical mansplainer operating their twitter account sadly
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>>9787251
Thats a massive over reaction.
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How do you feel about people using kickstarters to fund a project such as pins or charms vs using a storefront to accept pre-orders?
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>>9787341
Personally I find it very off putting when they're based on exisiting IP.
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>>9787318
The owner is a girl but everyone’s right in that she overreacted really badly. Seeing this and other shady shit people have mentioned about her in these threads makes me cringe whenever I see her shitty hats at cons.
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>>9787387
Who's the owner?
I feel bad for admitting this but I think I've had arsenic and animetrashswag mixed up for years....
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>>9787251
I actually considered a print like this (The wrong names for everyone in BNHA) so if someone said this to me i'd just explain the joke to them. That is already embarrassing enough for most poeple, rubbing it in with "why would it make more sense?" is a one step too snarky.
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>>9787440
Actually i went to check the actual item and now I don't even think the asker was that out of line, each hat will be seen alone no one will get the on going joke. In this case I would have just explained the reasoning and say maybe i'll do froppy in the future (which is how to handle any kind of merch suggestion), the "joke" wasn't apparent in the first place.
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>>9787398
Some girl named Rei? If you check the /cgl/ archives, her and her brand has been brought up multiple times before. When she first started her hats she tried to claim ATS gave her “permission” or something? I remember some anon asking ATS about it and finding out she lied.
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>>9787452
She does custom-made hats. A fantastic way to have dealt with the situation would have just been:

>We decided to go with Froggy to keep with the theme of the other hats, but if you're interested in the Froppy hats, then feel free to message us about a custom order!

But no instead she had to go and be a jackass about it
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pretty sure they're just trying to avoid copyright and don't want to admit that.
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As a non-American who wants to start doing American cons, will I be losing a good number of sales if I don't take credit card payments at my table? Is it worth looking into?
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>>9788029
Just get Square
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>>9788053
Square only works in the country you sign up in. For them to process American cards you need a US mailing address and SSN, neither of which Canadian anon has, probably
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>>9788029
How do you even plan to get a sales permit?
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>>9788068
...by applying for one
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>>9788029
yes. I was once at a con where the credit card processing service went down for an entire day and I lost a few sales.
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>>9788079
Without a SSN or employee number?
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>>9788104
If you're outside of the US you can use other forms of ID. The CA seller's permit application wouldn't allow you to choose any country as your home address if this weren't the case.
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>>9788029
Depending on where you hail from, look into SumUp. I travel all over Europe with it and it looks like they're in the US as well.
If they don't have a good discount going on atm, see if you can get a referral from someone. You shouldn't pay more than 40 bucks for the reader.
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>>9787341

I think it's a smart business decision, fandom related or not. KS advertising doubled my profits the last time I ran one vs if I would've just ran it through my shop and usual advertising means.
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>>9787341
as a consumer I've come to have a distrust of kickstarters because I've heard of so many of them being scams and taking forever.. I'd rather buy preorders through a storefront, at least that way I have a general timeframe.

>>9788029
Yes. Get a CC reader for sure. Maybe ask an American friend you trust to help you with it and set it up.
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>>9787341
Kickstarters are a smart idea because the start up and production costs of stuff like enamel pins can be pretty high. So at least with a kick starter you get a goid feel for if people want your product along with the production costs covered. I'd rather see a failed kickstarter then somebody dump all their money into something and it sell like shit.
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>>9788546
As a consumer I treat most Kickstarters like gambling. I don't expect to get anything back for my investment, but if I do I'm going to be surprised and happy.
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>>9788029
Some people I know resort to Paypal. I don't know if that's normal practice or not though. Aren't there fees?
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>>9787514
I asked her about it a long time ago when she started selling the hats and posted them on AANI (she's since deleted the post though, and I didn't think to save caps). When I asked her about the similarity to ATS, she said it was kinda influenced by them, but that the idea wasn't even that original anyway and that it's already common in Asian fashion. When I asked ATS, they sounded pretty frustrated, mentioning that they knew about AxC but that there really wasn't much they could do.

At this point, the two sellers have diversified their inventory so it doesn't really matter. AxC still a bigger bitch, though
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>>9787341
idk if anyone else feels this way but i generally only like kickstarters when they stick to the original concept of funding a novel idea that solves a problem / fills a niche that can't get funded through traditional investor means and not a way to pay your business costs. pin kickstarters seem like wow, you can't even save up $150 to get this made? same with kickstarters for people to buy artist alley tables or something, it's just tacky to me.
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>>9788606
this is how i feel lol. while it's totally reasonable from the seller's side (not paying out of pocket for a product you're not 100% from sell), as a buyer, it lowers my opinion of the artist. you're making the buyer take on the risks and costs of production because you can't be bothered to save it up yourself, or, even more sketchy, can't actually afford this $150 or whatever product without funding? (If you can't afford it and you end up short on funds or there's trouble with the company, you won't be able to cover any extra yourself.)

as someone who's both a creator and customer, i feel like kickstarters communicate to the customer that you can't be assed to take the full risk required to be a merchandise creator and you want the customer to handhold you through the process. as a creator i know that's not the case, but as a customer that's how it feels ... and if a customer feels that way, they're going to be turned off from buying from you in the future.

tl;dr kickstarters may be successful but your rep takes a big hit, especially since i've seen similar sentiments expressed around various customer bases. if you're a big enough artist it won't matter if you lose some buyers, but if you're smaller i'd suggest against it (also if you're smaller, running a successful kickstarter would be much harder)
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>>9788606
I can understand pin kickstarters especially when they want to get a lot of designs made, those mold fees and 100 pcs add up, but kickstarters for funding artist alley tables?? At most those tables should be like $250 tops
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>>9788700
*not 100% sure will sell

also in case it weren't obvious, i'm still referring to kickstarters that are basically preorders for enamel pins or other common merchandise that most creators can cover the cost of themselves. i'm obviously not talking about normal things that benefit from crowdfunding or can only happen through crowdfunding.
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>>9788595
Given that this is what she said when people pointed out the similarities, it’s hilarious that now she accuses any acrylic hat vendor of “bootlegging” her merchandise. She gets pissed at that one kpop booth that’s been doing acrylic hats for longer than her and at last Fanime she tried to get people to report other acrylic booths to the con for copying her.
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>>9787251
Shit, offtopic but, I bought a hat from this girl. And the hat said SHOTA. Thinking about it now, this was a impulse buy and I'm a weeb shit but how much would this word trigger you.

I got some shit online recently from SJWs for using it to describe things. Thoughts on wearing this hat to anime cons?
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>>9788952
I'm sure a billion different things trigger SJWs at anime cons. They're not going to harass you for it irl (I did have someone complain at my table for contributing to the sexualization of women before though so idk).

If your personal circle doesn't care/the people you want to make friends with don't care, then you should be totally fine at a con. It's not nearly as problematic as the "loli bitch" or "shota shit" shirts with actual drawings, or like actual shota porn that people have on hand at cons.
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>>9788952
You’re going to an anime con. You’ll be fine. Being an oversensitive bitch about “sjws” makes you sound like an unpleasant person to be around though.
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>>9788606
>>9788700
This is exactly how I feel about it. I kind of hate KS, gofundme, etc. in general, and think less of the people that ask for them in most cases, especially business ones (unless it's like what >>9788606 said, not your merch, machines etc). Business is kind of risky and it's a tacky move imo to have people fund your shit for you to make money for you instead of being going through the risks yourself.
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>anons complaining about mansplaining
>"complaining about sjws makes you seem like an oversensitive bitch"

why the fuck are you guys even on 4chan?
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>>9788952
The word shota took a hit a few years ago with the concept being linked to CP by the tumblr crowd, and now it's considered much more skeevy than it used to be. A friend of mine had to rebrand because her handle used the word shota because she made it back when that was the default word for the young/cute character archetype, and she was receiving a lot of flack for it.

If you're just attending and not running an event, you might get some eyebrow raises but I doubt anyone would say anything to you. If you're selling in AA or have an unrelated panel or something... I wouldn't, personally.
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>>9789223
ditto this anon. if you're just an attendee, honestly don't worry about it. remember, anime cons is where people run around in hentai t-shirts and other socially unacceptable things, so you'll blend right in

if you're representing your art or your brand though, then yeah it's considered a creepy word due to misinformation/vendetta. i remember no one gave a fuck about the word shota until specifically when people wanted to discredit omocat's kickstarter and decided to use her shota shirt for some reason as opposed to anything else about her. tumblrites are idiots
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>>9788958
>(I did have someone complain at my table for contributing to the sexualization of women before though so idk).
Story?
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>>9789177
Because 4chan isn't some edgy 'omg so dark and crazy' place people thought it was in 2006, you fucking idiot. It's just an anonymous forum.
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>>9788572
Yeah, that is a fair way of looking at it. Mostly, I was referring to how some kickstarters do receive full funding so you end up getting charged for it. But by getting charged, you are expecting a product by that point. There were a couple of kickstarters I've seen or that my friends have been in where they never saw any rewards. (example if anybody remembers Vensy?)
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>>9790280
I have backed 43 kickstarters, and of those I'm still waiting on 11 for rewards. The ones I'm still waiting on I fully expect to never see a finished project on maybe half of them. It's a gambling game but it's one I'm willing to bet on because the pay off is the kind of innovation or
media I want to see more of in the world. But I mostly back for comic books and video games and technology - backing for something like enamel pins seems weird to me.
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I'm making buttons for the first time and unfortunately a character with a darker complexion came out a lot lighter than expected.

What should I do with this set of character buttons? Sell them normally, at a discount, or not sell them at all? I'm afraid I'll get flack for trying to "whitewash" a character for a printing mistake.
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>>9790386
contact the printer and reprint them ?
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How was Katsu for everyone?
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>>9790280
>vensy
deets?
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>>9790417
v good, profits blew my mind
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>>9790681
I keep hearing this ! I am so glad everyone is rolling in it! I wonder if this means a good year for AA or if Katsu is just an outlier AA heaven.
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I feel like im just missing the right search terms, but I can’t finding a manufacturer for enamel rings like the style of Automatic Honey, but simpler. I could order the enamel pins and cut and dremel the backs but it’d be much nicer if they weren’t just glued on to ring backs and actually made that way.

The only thing I found on alibaba was extremely cheap and simple, I’m not looking for crazy design but just something nice to get as a ring or even an enamel pendant.

My fear is that I’d have to make the pins by scratch, which is beyond my little crafting space. No idea how to handle the metal either, besides wire.
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>>9790681
was it better compared to last year or was it good because it was your first time getting in since the last aa jury head was ousted so actually good artists are finally making money?
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>>9790681
Everyone I’ve talked to said it was worse than last year
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I made less than last year, but only because a shipment of merch came in late and I sold out of everything. People were not hesitant to spend at all. It was still one of my top 5 cons in terms of sales - would have easily been #1 if I'd been fully stocked.
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>>9790417
I beat my last year's gross sales from katsu, which was my previous record, by about $1500. It's always been a good con for me but the past two years have been especially ridiculously profitable. Felt like people were crawling over each other to fling money at me all weekend.
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Can someone who's dealt with the texas sales tax id shit PLEASE tell me where I can find someone to hire and do my shit for me? I'm beyond frustrated with trying to figure out the comptroller site. There's no clear guide on how to get a temporary id number for a convention or craft show and google has failed me.
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Anyone else having problem with usps shipping? I had one order take 4 weeks to get to Australia, with another STILL not there yet after almost 5 weeks. Another package going to Puerto Rico still hasn't arrived after almost a month. This stuff normally takes about 10 days.
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>>9791258
Like 75% of Puerto Rico still has no power. Depending on the region, they might not have postal service unless it's a PO box.
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>>9791387
meh, I sent something in December and it got there just fine.
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>>9791258

The USPS is in a constant decline, you can't count on any past experience to be the norm anymore because each day they get more terrible. They charge five times as much for int'l shipping than they did five years ago and it's about five times worse also.
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>>9790526
Just that she did a kickstarter promising things and never went through with it after delaying it. Don't really remember the details, just that people were asking about updates and she never delivered on them. That's like a ton of kickstarters though. People just run off with the money while posting fake updates on things.
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>>9791258
Packages coming in AND out have been taking 1-3 days longer this year, regardless of the method. It's shit.
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>>9790961
better compared to last year, but I think it's more of a personal thing since I have way more stuff this time around and improved a bit too. But you're right, I did notice the quality of the AA this year was so much better than last year's, I actually wanted to get other people's stuff

>>9791102
oh, well that sucks for them, sorry to hear. I thought the general opinion of katsu AA this year was pretty good, according to the artists I know
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>>9791223
There is no 'temporary' one available for Texas.




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