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Previous thread: >>9870663
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Man, I just really love lolita.
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Seeing this insta story from @livlotte, she had a photoshoot for KERA apparently? Does anyone know if she got hired or how did she get this opportunity? She also modeled for Tulle and I'm just really curious how she meets all these people who are in charge/gets invited. (I'll be in Tokyo for a while soon too, and I wouldn't say no to these kind of things too lol)
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>>9877072
She writes for Kera
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Is it a good idea to mark down packages or mark them as gifts for EU lolitas as a lacemarket seller? I'm in the US and I'd like to help with their custom charges, but would it be giving me the short end of the stick as a seller or is it generally okay?
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>>9877096
Afaik it's illegal, and if the parcel gets stolen/lost/the buyer decides to screw you over, you won't have any protection nor insurance for it.
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>>9877061
I had to scroll up and check I wasn't in the feels thread. Not cool, anon
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>>9877096
Just ask them. As someone whose in the EU I always like mine being marked down and I accept the risk of it all. I always considered it a really kind gesture
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>>9877096
It's okay. It's illegal but it's not like you will get in trouble for it. Worst case scenario, the custom tax people get suspicious and open the package, but that usually only happens when it's obviously from a shop (Ss sometimes put stickers on it and stuff). I think 90% of EU lolitas won't buy from you if you don't mark down.
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>>9877097
When a package is lost, you need to provide the invoice/receipt. Not the value that was written on the parcel (they can't verify that).
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I heard bowsbeforeboys sold her whole wardrobe, anyone know what's going on?
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>>9877097
but they still have the tracking number and insured amount associated in their system.
i mean if you had marked it as a gift, why would there be an invoice?
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>>9877162
She still has a couple of pieces, but she definitely downsized into one wardrobe's worth. I saw it on her IG story a while ago.
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>>9877175
I thought she'd only recently had a huge wardrobe space built for her stuff, so it seems odd. Good for her if she's happy though!
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>>9877171
Have you never lost a parcel? They mean the invoice/receipt from when you bought it. Otherwise you could claim a much higher value in order to get insurance money.
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I just feel like i'm "too sweet" for my age (21) nowadays gulls. Whenever I put on a cute,frilly, pastel outfit i feel ridiculous even though i still love that whole aesthetic.
Also my girlfriend is goth and she said she disliked it and i wasnt her type at all at first (due to how pink i was) but now think it's adorable and that i'm adorable yet i just feel like i'm too pink,too cutesy,too "out of place"...and that i look like some overly girly airhead trying hard to stay young.
Idk anymore gulls. It used to bring me so much joy but now i'm just sad
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>>9877206
Age is bullshit when it comes to fashion, I know quite a few 30-somethings who rock their sweet, pink AP.
If you, personally, regardless of your age, don't feel comfortable in pink anymore then that's okay and it's nothing to stress over.
You can try coordinating your pieces in new ways that are more toned down and "mature", switch over to classic-sweet, or try another substyle that feels more comfortable for you to wear instead.
This article might help you a bit: http://www.fyeahlolita.com/2010/01/dressing-your-age-in-lolita.html
Just remember that you're a baby in terms of age of participation in lolita, and what matters is your personal feeling when wearing the fashion, not your biological age.
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>>9877206
Well what inspired you to dress up in the first place? If you're not into cute girly stuff at all, it just doesn't suit you anymore.
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>>9877091
Which I'm not sure how she got that gig, as her articles are awful and she can't write in Japanese
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>>9877247
Why do you hate her articles? I thought she was one of the better ones compared to the other international "writers"
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There's already 3 "lolitas in X" threads and I don't really want to start another because it doesn't deserve one. Are there any decent cords with veils like pic related?
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>>9877206
You’re at a transitional age, anon. Everyone hypes up being a teenager/college-aged so much that by the time you reach the tail end it feels like your time to be young is over (when it obviously isn’t). This too will pass, even if it takes a few years. For now, I feel like experimenting with more classic-sweet styles might help you feel more at-home with your current wardrobe. Just take care of your skin/hair/body and by the time you feel ready to branch out again no one will bat an eye.
>pic related, the queen
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>>9877206
listen, lolita is for adults.
wear what you like or get your insecure hiney into a more understated fashion.

I really don't understand how you think 21 is old. one of my fav sweet lolitas is 27 and is just as pastel and OTT as the day I first saw one of her coord posts
>pic related

if it's no longer your flavor, try another one. But, I really feel like you should push through this and stop letting whatever external normie pressure ruin your fun expression
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>>9877206
Misako Aoki still mainly wears pink sweet lolita and she's in her 30s. Don't blame your age.
>unrelated but she also doesn't know how to use tags
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>>9877259
Pic related is wearing something very toned down though. I like things like pic related and on anyone over 25 it feels like it's....inappropriate? I love the sweet lolita/pastel fairy kei fashion and if I wanted to wear classic or otome IMO I might as well just wear rockabilly or "adult" feminine brands because it's not really what I love, it's just "good enough and not boring".
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>>9877271
Sweet lolita is always inappropriate no matter how young you are desu
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>>9877271
Those three are all over 25, and they don’t wear this stuff a lot but they clearly look good in it.
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>>9877274
>they don’t wear this stuff a lot
Fanny Rosie never wears sweet, that pic is from a style swap that they did.

>>9877272
This is true, and it what makes sweet lolita so subversive. Normies will tell you you look ridiculous in a pink poofy dress if you're over the age of 8, that doesn't mean you have to listen to them.
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>>9877251
fair, most of the others are definitely worse.
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>>9877271
>feels inappropriate for anyone over 25
Most people don't look old starting at 25 anon. Let alone 30. Wear it if it suits you.
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>>9877247
None of the international writers write in Japanese though. Not sure why kera selected those particular people but I think at least livlotte is doing fine, no sponsored shit and just mainly fashion snaps and such. Also I'm actually very curious to read about her backstage experience, as we never get to see much of that usually.
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>>9877072
I don't get it either anon, she's ugly af
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>>9877096
Marking down a packet as a gift is a nice gesture but doesn’t work at all. If it’s above the 40€ we still need to pay customs. But I have to say that even the ones below 40€ but above €22 that were marked as a gift, still got charged with customs. Our customs doesn’t fall for the gift trick.
Declaring a lower value is something I always appreciate, but buyers can definitly screw you with this! As when it gets losts you can only get the declared value back(if you use insured shipping), while the buyer can just file a paypal claim and get everything back on your costs. It is also illegal, but to be honest the customs really doesn’t know the value of a Lolita dress. And as long as there is no price tag or something like that inside, they will also never find out. They will probably think it’s a costume, and believe a value of $20. But yeah, values of like one cent will most likely get you caught.
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>>9877271
>on anyone over 25 it feels like it's....inappropriate?
More like anyone over 8, anon. Sweet Lolita didn't look appropriate when you were 15 either, there's nothing wrong with wearing it at 21 if you still like it and is comfortable in it.
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>>9877072
She was one of the models for AP at DMC too. Anyone could apply to model and get selected there so many someone took notice of her?
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anyone looking for a MMM guitar case?
>https://item.mercari.com/jp/m26570523013/
>26k yen
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>>9877072
From what I gathered following Liv on Facebook and Instagram:
First of all Kera asked for writers on their website and anyone could apply and I don't think they rejected anyone. Liv is just one of those who constantly write and didn't drop out after one article. I don't think they even get money for it.

Then there was an event where you could have taken a snap of your outfit and fill out a questionnaire. She went there and met Mariko Suzuki there, and afterwards Mariko asked her to model for Tulle.

I guess she got the Kera gig because of that photoshoot. Or maybe because she writes for them.

I think while she doesn't look like a model, she is still pretty and fulfills the typical “european“ look that the japanese like so much
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>>9877394
*I forgot to add that the snaps were taken for Tulle
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>>9877072
Literally who
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>>9877309
Where do you live? It's never failed to work for me. But keep in mind they include the cost of shipping.
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>>9877309
>when it gets losts you can only get the declared value back
See >>9877191

>values of like one cent will most likely get you caught.
You deserve to get caught because that's just retarded
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>>9877309
>>9877171
>>9877097
You have to read the policy of the postal company you use. Many of them sell "worldwide insurance" to you, but only if the parcel is delivered by the same postal company. E.g. if you send a parcel with Royal Mail, but it's delivered by PostNL, you are not covered by Royal Mail's insurance. They may also ask for picture proof of the packaging, or they will say you probably didn't package it well enough. Depending on the postal company, they may not give a fuck about declared value or original value (invoice/receipt) and they will just refund you what they think is the appropriate amount for a dress. It really doesn't matter if you marked the parcel down in most cases.
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>>9877208
>>9877259
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>>9877270
Thank you so much gulls,i wasn't feeling good this morning when i wrote this post

>>9877271
ughh this is the fashion i fell in love with back then and that i still love.
As another anon said I'm probably under normie pressure,that and i barely have any friend let alone into sweet lolita (the little friends i have all love it but are too shy/affraid to get into it or were into it and moved onto a different style now)
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>>9877162
She sold like a fraction of her wardrobe lol
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>>9877452
Believe in your lolita dreams friend. 21 is certainly young; and people will respect you more for being your own person with your own interests than just caving to normie pressure. As long as you look out together most ~adults~ won’t care.
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>>9877206
Giving up pink and cute things at 21 cause you think you’re too old sounds like such a sad existence
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>>9877304
Chill anon, she looks fine
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>>9877660
Nayrt and I don't think she's ugly she's just ugly for a kera model
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>>9877663
Models for magazines like Kera are often picked for their image. That's why people like Rinrin doll and Kimura U can get modeling jobs in Japan.
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>>9877668
>kimura u
I don't understand, are you saying she's ugly? I think she's pretty cute. Didn't she have a clothing line, wouldn't that have given her a leg up too?
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>>9877660

I think she looks fine but I also think she looks boring as heck and I would have been a better model.
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>>9877668
both of them are cute though
this girl isn't
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>>9877675
Kera thinks she's cute and so do I.
You are sounding more and more like a jelly vendetta-chan.
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>>9877683
kek that's my first post in this thread, nice try
not everyone who doesn't think you're cute is jelly vendetta, sorry to burst your bubble.
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>>9877671
>>9877675
They're not conventionally beautiful
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>>9877706
Uh... yes they are, just as much as any other Asian kawaii model is conventionally attractive.
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>>9877706
Agreed, especially compared to other Japanese models they just aren't as 'perfect'. They are there because they are very active in the community, just as Liv is (I'd say she represents Western fashion lovers for them a bit). Liv might be "just lucky", but I think she definitely looks cute and calling her ugly just sounds petty
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If you look at enough Japanese magazines you'll see that the white models they use are often rather plain by overseas standards, and some are downright derpy looking, but to Japanese people they seem pretty or exotic looking and have desirable features like big eyes and fair skin. Innocent World's model-san was pretty average looking but I can see how a Japanese audience would think she looked doll-like because of her Caucasian features and blonde hair.
It's not a stretch to think that Kera would ask a reasonably cute European girl who already writes for them to do some modeling as well.
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>>9877706
Rinrin yeah but kimura u is pretty cute
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>>9877394
>I don't think they rejected anyone.

They never replied to me lol
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>>9877668
I think you're kind of right about "image". Like if they're a poster child for a certain style, magazines want to just swoop them up.
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>>9877715
I think rinrin is beyond hideous. It makes me impressed with her portfolio, but bitch has a rat face like no other
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Does anyone have any recommendations for good jewelry makers/brands for gothic styles? I'm really lacking in jewelry/general accessories and feel like most stuff out there looks like etsy trash. I want to find more quality indie brands to support who actually make nice things.
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>>9877796
Look i to regal rose, its a UK based shop and their stuff is rad.
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>>9877764
i remember you from the last time rinrin was brought up
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>>9877796
My things aren't really quality but they're pretty cheap for etsy trash and I like doing custom requests for particular coords.
http://dreamcathedral.etsy.com/

I also recommend these:
https://www.etsy.com/ca/shop/FantasticGrim
https://www.etsy.com/ca/shop/Videnoir
https://www.etsy.com/ca/shop/Adventstore
https://www.etsy.com/ca/shop/RavenAndRoseAtelier
https://www.etsy.com/ca/shop/mossmarchen
https://restyle.pl
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>>9877815
>>9877796
Oh and this one.
https://www.etsy.com/ca/shop/Necrosarium
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>>9877796
Alchemy Gothic
Restyle
Hunt on taobao
Moitie
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>>9877272
>>9877322
I always figure that when you are young and in your teens it's more accepted when you like and try more unusual things because it's experimenting and kids will be kids. Ultimately people expect you will settle down into "adult" tastes. When people see an adult in it they wonder why the person didn't get over it and view them as still immature.
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>>9877830
That's sort of true, except that other teens will pick on you relentlessly for standing out in any way, and lolita is special in the way that you may still hear "aren't you too old for this?" even when in your teens, so you're still not "safe" from judgment. Might be the typical girly elements that do this, since other alt fashion styles tend to fly under many adults' radar when worn by teenagers.
Which is why the best conclusion to make is to just do what makes you happy (lifestyle/career permitting) because people are going to judge you regardless.
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>>9877747
Kimura just uses better and more photoshop
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>>9877072
Pretty easy, she just went for all the opportunities she could get and got noticed. She applied for modelling for UtS and DMC, Mariko was at UtS and must have noticed her. Then she applied for the Kera writers thing and was chosen as well. Then she went to Japan and met Mariko again at an event, she noticed her and asked her for Tulle. Liv writes quite a few Kera posts, Kera probably apreciated that, knows that she is in Japan and ask her for the photoshoot, so she could write about that.
It’s the typical route, everyone that has a cute face amd the right meassurements can do it. I am pretty sure that the Atelier Pierrot model also roled into it by participating in all kinds of events and getting noticed that way.
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>>9877932
Have to add, maybe she is not cute or model worthy in the eyes of westeners, but as said before for the Japanese she represents this image natural dolllike beauty. Mariko for example didn’t even wanted Liv to use Make-up, while the Japanese models were given a lot of make-up.
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>>9877256
Veils look tacky imo.
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>>9877796
http://www.burialground.org/
https://www.bloodmilkjewels.com/
http://www.omniaoddities.com/
https://www.etsy.com/se-en/shop/floridxfauna
https://www.etsy.com/se-en/shop/MarthaRotten
https://www.etsy.com/se-en/shop/raintower

Also go antique, you'll never regret it
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>>9877960
You look tacky
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New release from Moitie, gulls!
>https://twitter.com/moitie_official/status/994865957326684160
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>>9877993
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>>9877995
I love it
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>>9877995
>>9877994
>>9877993
Even Moitie is following the high waisted trend now... What is the world coming to. This is cute enough but would look hideous on me, and that blue colourway is an embarrassment.
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>>9878018
I love how people who never paid attention to Moitie before suddenly feel like their opinion matters
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>>9878021
Come off it, that dress you posted is much more elegant. The crossing at the front comes down lower. Those extra few inches make it much more flattering.
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>>9877993
>>9877994
>>9877995
Moitie for people who hate Moitie.
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>>9878032
Moitie has done high-waisted cuts pretty much since the beginning. I posted that dress because it's an earlier version of the new dress. Moitie often does "changed" versions instead of a real re-release.
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>>9878038
And this changed version looks much frumpier than the original imo. The missing details and the AP-high crossing and the different colours on the blue one just aren't working for me. It looks so much more awkward.
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>>9878040
I don't care, I'm just saying high-waisted stuff is nothing new. I don't think you can even call it a trend for sweet lolita after so many years.
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>>9878018
How fat are you that high waisted looks bad on you. You put your tits in the top part, Flowy on the bottom part. It isn’t that difficult.

>>9877994
I’m in love with that green colorway
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>>9877995
>mfw I voted for pic related and asked for more high waisted dresses
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>>9877994
I want the green one but does it come in short
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>>9877994
Perfect slytherin dress
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>>9878047
It's not a fat problem anon. I have a small waist and large tits so things that are this level of high waist look shit on me. This style only looks good on flat girls. I also bought their Neo gothic arch OP and their Lace Cross jsk though so I shouldn't complain probably.
>sorry if I'm not clear, my English isn't very good
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>>9878049
I can't tell if this is a happy feel or a disappointed feel
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>>9878047
Not that anon, but as someone who is short with a large chest (30DDD), high waist cuts tend to make me look stumpier. It's not a fat thing, but a "short girl with big boobs" thing.

I'm so short that IW's "high waist" cuts actually fall close to my natural waist, but drop waist is the most flattering since it elongates my torso and makes me look more proportional.

I'm envious (not in a jelly, hateful way) of people who can wear all those gorgeous AP super-high-waist JSK's. There are some beautiful OPs I just won't buy because I know they won't be flattering on me.
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>>9878043
OK that's a good point. But it's still fugly on most body types.
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>>9878055
It's very happy
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>>9877994
>mfw these two remind me of Excentrique
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>>9878059
The dress you posted is way prettier though
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>>9878060
Maybe they hired Excentrique's designer
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>>9878065
Please Mana-sama, let this be true.
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>>9878061
The new one is basically a longer version minus the screen printed flowers
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>>9877815
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>>9877818
>>9877820
>>9877973

Thank you all so much!! I've got a lot to check out today.

>>9877815
I love your stuff, keep making more. I think your best pieces are the ones that you use your own art in. If you keep doing more of that, then I'll shower you with money.
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>>9878072
And its chiffon. I think the one you posted looks like a better and more durable material.
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>>9878057
>>9878053
You know you can just tie the crossing lower to suit your figure, right? Have more faith in Mana.
>though I'd be more into this if it were cotton
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>>9878075
I don't get the hate for chiffon
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>>9878078
>mfw I realise I'm stupid
Thanks anon, time to kms
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>>9878081
It frays and warps easily, it looks and feels cheap, in direct sunlight it can be see through, it is extremely flammable, in the summer it's not that breathable so you sweat but it's very thin so you still feel cold... Nice chiffon is acceptable in blouses and very cheap casual dresses, but for a moitie release that'll probably be like 300 dollars? I'm disappointed.
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When it comes to good summer fabrics, why haven't any brands (Japanese or indie) jumped on the linen trend yet? It's so comfy, durable, and actually heat-appropriate.
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>>9878088
Maybe this is my ignorance speaking but if all linen looks like this, it's possible brands avoid it because it doesn't look luxurious. It looks like the type of fabric that would work perfectly in mori or natural kei, not so much with the fancy, princessy look of lolita, especially not modern lolita.
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>>9878092
That's a good point. Nice linen can drape beautifully though. I feel like Innocent World or Lief could make it work with some lace and a good pattern.
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>>9878088
100% linen is coarse and hard. Mixes aren't as breathable.
As >>9878092 said it doesn't really suit lolita.
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>>9878085
Have you never seen IW's gorgeous pearskin chiffon? Or ant other good quality chiffon? I bet you're the same person as >>9878088, people who don't know shit about fabric need to butt out of these discussions.
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>>9878094
It also wrinkles like a bitch, which looks good with some looks but not lolita
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>>9878085
What kind of shit chiffon have you been wearing? I don't live in a hot country so I love chiffon and polyester in general, but Moitie fabric has always been top tier.
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>>9878085
Where would it fray...?
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>>9878102
Along the edges?
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>>9878105
But the edges on the Juliet OP are finished whereas the Roses OP aren't?
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>>9878107
It's hard to tell in the pic and I'm no expert but it looks like they may have used something like fray check on the roses dress
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I tried to drink tea like a proper Lolita but it tasted bad, so I ended up puttin a shit ton of sugar in it. Still didn't like it, so I put even more sugar in. Kept doing this until I was pretty much drinking sugar water.

Guess I'll just stick to regular ole' water.
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>>9878110
There are like 12 million flavours of tea out there that don't need any extra sugar
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>>9878110
This entire post is so embarrassing to read. Are you 5?
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>>9878096
Nayrt, but it's easier to snag than more durable fabrics. So even just washing it, you have to be more careful.
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>>9878110
Maybe you brewed it too strong or left it to mash too long? Start with a lighter leaf blend and a short steep time.
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>>9878113
>>9878115
I'm sorry, all tea just tastes bland and all around bad to me. Although, there was this one time where my gran made lemon tea which tasted kinda ok.
Also I'm not 5, I'm 20.
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>>9877993
My husband and I are trying for a baby and the black one will make the perfect lolita maternity dress.
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>>9878126
It's not the fact you don't like tea that makes me question your maturity; some people hate tea and that's fine, but it's how you worded your post.
>drinking tea like A Proper Lolita™
>hated it so kept adding sugar like an idiot
Was it your first time in a cafe/tea house like a real adult? Because this is embarrassing.
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>>9877995
OK but does anyone actually like the blue colourway of this or can we all agree that one is a mistake?
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>>9878130
you’d be surprised at how stupid some young adults can be, really.
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>>9878131
I like the blue colourway and am considering buying it. Gingham sucks, though.
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>>9878110
Have you ever tried English tea? The milk in that can make it taste much nicer.
It’s all about finding the right tea for you.
You can have regular English tea, green, herbal, etc. And some teas are flavoured with fruits and things which can help with reducing your sugar intake. You can also try adding honey, lemon, mint etc to make it taste nice. Grab a load of testers from your local tea shop or bulk buy a loaf of single sachets and experiment at home to find the right one for you.
Good luck!
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>>9878065
We'll notice if they start releasing nice EGA again
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>>9878078
oh boy, we've got a genius here.
the ties are not the issue, it's the placement of the waist elastic. boobs come in different shapes but we can all agree they are never shaped like traffic cones or knocked-over beer cans. the fuller the bust the longer the bodice you need because there's a chance the high waist won't even clear your bust. busty lolitas need enough bodice to show the distinction between bust and real waist most of the time for maximum flattery. no bra in the world can force your breast tissue outward on the z axis and squash it on the y.

>nayrt, please stop advising people on things you know nothing about
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>>9878143
Hmm... English tea with milk sounds nicer than the tea I was drinking.
I don't really have a high sugar intake, I mostly eat fruits rather than candies. It was just that one time where I added a ton of sugar to tea just to see how it would effect the taste.

I'll try taste testing and experimenting with different types of tea and experimenting with honey, lemon, etc.

I remember liking lemon tea than my granma would make when I was younger, so I guess I'll try adding lemon to my tea.
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>>9878151
>waist elastic
I may have some bad news for you.
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>>9878156
Wait what? Is there just no bodice-skirt divide at all and any waistline is defined by how you tie the ties?
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>>9878151
Maybe that's why corsets and bustiers are popular with lolitas
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>>9878156
...well then. I stand corrected. I just assumed there were parallel channels of elastic beneath the crossed ties because it's common with a lot of dresses I like (particularly by IW).
Ignore me.
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>>9878162
If it's anything like >>9878107, then it'll still have that gathered high waist separating the bodice and skirt. It just won't be elastic and will be very high, this making it even less likely to fit varied body types.
>what the fuck Mana
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It's ok anon. It wasn't obvious and you were just trying to help.
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>>9878047
>j-just put your tits in the top part hurr
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>>9878171
Thank you, anon. I'm sorry for being a rough jerk earlier.
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>>9878153
Sounds good! Hope you find one that you like!!
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>>9878198
It's ok anon. It happens to the best of us at times.
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>>9878075
>>9878061
I can't believe you hate it so much you're trying to convince others to hate it too lol
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>>9877995
KERAshop posted some closeups.
>https://twitter.com/kerashinjuku/status/994899141737107457
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>>9878218
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>>9878218
So it does come in different sizes and green only available online
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>>9878218
And just when I thought this couldn't remind me any more of Excentrique... I'm buying this one for sure.
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>>9878236
Even the textured fabric is reminding me of them.
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>>9878018
>Even Moitie is following the high waisted trend now.
I'm pretty sure they've released that exact dress or something extremely similar before (at least the long one). They've also used that shade of blue before.
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Found it
>>9878241
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>>9878244
I hope this sells well so they re-release more old solids
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>>9878244
Literally the same but somehow looks better.
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>>9878244
Unlikely, but would anyone have any information about the original release dates, colours, etc?
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>>9878249
Worn picture looks so much better, what the fuck.
Words can't express my hate for the new stock photos.
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>>9878262
>>9878248
I wish they went back to their old style of stock photos (before tamaqro, with the grey background)
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>>9878276
Me too, the white bg is way too bright and makes the dresses look cheaper somehow
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>>9878276
I need to remember this for if they ask our opinion again
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>>9878276
At least the photos aren't grainy as shit and you can actually see nice photos of the items. Anyways, it cant be helped im sure they are all shot in the same studio as the regular ww items now too.
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>>9878351
that's the problem. wunderwelt makes their own pics anyway, and I guess moitie was like ''well we can use theirs now so why bother with our own''. but their own pics look much better...
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>>9878351
And it's all better than the old school BLUE background on which you couldn't discern any detail.
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>>9878351
come on they moved on from that a long time ago already...
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>>9878375
wunderwelt needs to understand that just throwing it on a mannequin is not enough. but they've been doing things like this for as long as i can remember unfortunately.
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>>9878218
Stock photos were awful, but I'm getting more and more optimistic about it. The material looks really comfy.
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I know people were complaining about Fakestar and Sakuracon earlier. Looks like they're going to do a livestream to reply to those complaints? http://www.vkh-press.com/2018/05/when-sht-hits-fan-addressing-bad-fan.html
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Sorry I didn't read well. There seems to be some sort of issues with Babymetal. But they do say you can share any bad experience and Mana is in a visual kei band so..
>>9878398
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>>9878399
they were also in charge of bringing Kaya to the US and Mexico which honestly hasn't been promoted to lolitas well at all. people didn't even know what brands were going to be there until a while ago and I heard VIP tickets were never available.
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>>9878399
Mana didn’t come to sakuracon as a vkei guest, so not quite. It’s likely more about baby metal not having Yui there.
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>>9878406
but that has nothing to do with fakestar at all in any way
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>>9878412
Fakestar is just a guest on it, they aren’t the subject. The topic is about vkei issues in America like baby metal. It isn’t Lolita related just because fake star is appearing.
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>>9878419
babymetal is not visual kei, kaya and mana are
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>>9877056
Not strictly lolita related but I have a teatime problem right now. I invited someone over for tea, I made everything really cute and nice just like a lolita meet-up because it's like a ''test meet'' for when I do a comm meet at my house (I explained all that to my current guest beforehand). The problem is that it's been FIVE HOURS and he's still here. I already did the ''I really need to start doing x household chores'' thing.
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>>9878426
What the fuck? That's so strange. Maybe apologize about having to cut your (way too long) meetup short but you have some obligations to attend to.
I don't know what else to say, really.
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>>9877990
WoW tHe EdGe
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>>9878433
Yeah, I just invited a local lolita and her bf over for this tea party because I wanted to test my food on some people before the actual meet. But she cancelled so he came by himself. They're both my friends so it's okay, but I'm just going to be rude and say he has to leave now. It did teach me something, for the real meet I'm going to pretend to have plans afterwards so people can't stay too long after the ending time.
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>>9878440
Is he a close friend of yours? Does he like lolita at all? I think it's bizarre that he came to a tea party and overstayed like this.
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Why do Lolitas have the ugliest boyfriends?
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>>9878448
I have an "ugly" fiancee because he's a wonderful person, he's fun to spend time with, and he's very clever and supportive. He's my favourite person. Sure, he's not objectively the most handsome guy, but he could get even uglier and I'd still love him and want to marry him and have kids with him.
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>>9877256
AP Magic Amulet comes with a veil headdress
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>>9878448
Tbh it sucks to have a handsome bf. I had a handsome bf, and ever since we broke up I just feel icky about ever having to touch someone less attractive. But attractive guys are 99% jerks. You can't win.
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>>9878448
my boyfriend isn't ugly actually and I'm pretty happy about that
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>>9878448
I'm a lolita and I think my boyfriend is sexy as fuck. I duno if other people find him attractive (skinny rocker boys with good taste knitwear and manbuns not necessarily everyone's taste) but probably outside of unusual clothing I'm not much special either, honestly it doesn't matter. We've been together 8 years and are really happy together so quite frankly I don't care if everyone else thinks we're fugly weirdos.
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My bf has the face of a butt cheek on a stick but I still love him. It’s about your personality not your looks. Even though he has super sexy hair... that’s always a plus.
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>>9878448
My bf is a big bulky man but I like it because it makes me look cuter and more dainty in pics of us together

(and he supports my lolita hobby and doesn't care how much closet space I take up and encourages me to spend money on things that make me happy. also give surprisingly good coord advice and knows how to buy from wunderwelt)
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>>9878129
Good luck anon!
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>>9878448

I think my ex was fairly handsome but somehow he was also an autistic asshole who never really cared about my problems and constantly thought I was inferior to him in a lot of ways. Don't know why I hung on to him for like 4 years but he was a fairly insensitive guy.

My current boyfriend is sort of chubby and struggles with his weight but he never made me feel like that. He's made me feel wanted, and though a lot of people in my field make fun of my specialty he always reminds me how important it is. Lolita is a little different but I think he's always supportive there too, even if it's something he doesn't necessarily finds aesthetically pleasing.

It's much more important to have respect than to have a pretty boy. Some people have it both very clearly but I'm definitely not giving up someone who I'm compatible and comfortable with and isn't an ass about my accomplishments.
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>>9877994
>>9877995
>still no new socks
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>>9878448
My boyfriend is not conventionally attractive but he's attractive to me and treats me well so that's all that matters.
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>>9878448
For me, it's more about personality and how well we get along and work together that counts. I honestly think my boyfriend is super handsome and attractive, but he just thinks He's average.

plus, the more I love someone, the more they look amazing on the outside to me.
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I gotta ask because this has been bothering me for years: What's with the La Carmina girl? I've always heard her described as she "wants to be famous" and I'd agree.
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>>9878448
We've had this conversation a lot on cgl but basically my theories are this

>Most lolitas have nerdy interests and seek partners with similar interests
Most geek dudes aren't exactly model of the year material. Most women involved in lolita are also into anime, cosplay, comics, fantasy or sci-fi and are therefore going to seek out partners with those interests.

>Lolita fashion isn't attractive to normie men.
Lolita fashion is going to scare away most normie men. I've dated men that are more normie, and I just accept the fact that I probably won't wear lolita around them or on dates. I keep that part of my life separate, because it is attention-grabbing and most dudes aren't into that. I wear the clothes on my own time. Granted, I wear sweet lolita. Someone who wears classic or gothic may have better luck finding an attractive normie boyfriend.

>Lolita fashion attracts people with subversive tastes.
Many girls within the community identify as feminists, or just have a different worldview in general. They might have different values they look for in a partner rather than just looks.

There are still lolitas with conventionally attractive boyfriends. maximumclaire and lolitacharm come to mind.
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>>9878448
I remember Novala Takemoto's "A Psychology Gentle on Love" whenever I see it.
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>>9878110
There's fruity teas, teas infused with things like bergamot such as Earl Grey, and I personally recommend herbal teas like chamomile if you dislike normal tea.
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>>9878819
Mint tea is pretty good too. If you’re making your own in this context just don’t leave the tea leaves/bag in for very long, and add some milk/cream and sugar or honey. Tada yummy tea
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There's no homemade thread so I figure I'll ask here.

Anyone has advice on sewing a border print so that it sits more like a flared skirt? Without resorting to tiered cuts or slicing up the print, I mean.

I just saw this cute fabric on Tomato that would be perfect for summer berries season but I can't justify sewing yet another cupcake skirt that doesn't look right outside of lolita.
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>>9878448
>>9878797

>has a cute normie boyfriend

I do see a lot of lolitas with absolute trash dudes tho. Some of them do have nice personalities but 80% of them don't...
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>>9878826
You can try doing a godet skirt and matching up the panels very carefully. or tiered cupcake skirt will have less excess fabric at top and can look better.
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>>9878448
Straight girls make do
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>>9878448
My previous boyfriend was this super conventionally attractive man but he lacked an interest in me and my hobbies and was a total douche.

My current partners are not the most attractive men but they are very kind and supportive of me and my love of lolita. There is a powerful chemistry and that’s really all that matters.
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What is it with scammers and this guilt trip shit after they get caught? Every single time, they unload their lives to make YOU look like the bad one.

This was after telling me 3 seperate times that she had sent it out.
Her reasons for delay were
>my post office was closed for a week!
and
>I didn’t have the money to ship it!
When I paid for shipping.
After a month of being nice and checking my mail everyday I finally confronted her and she sent me this. She also had been ignoring my messages until I threatened to make a beware.

I get it, things happen and I’m so sorry.
But tell me at the beginning instead of willfully lying to me for more than a MONTH

Also
>tldr, not to go into details
>unloads entire life
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>>9878878
I've had shit like this happen a few times on Lace Market, so I've become pretty blunt when it seems like someone is giving me the run around. Life can be tough, but just be forthcoming and I'll understand...otherwise, I report it quickly.
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>>9878088
Linen is pretty expensive, anon. Have you never priced linen yardage?
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>>9878110
Some lolitas drink coffee. Shocking, I know.
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>>9878878
Just file a Paypal claim at that point. This person isn't shipping items from 3-4 months ago? Jesus.
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>>9878448
My boyfriend is really cute to me. He has a mixed bag of traditionally handsome and unhandsome traits, but he has a nice smile and I love how he always holds me extra tightly and lingers like he doesn't want to let go.
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>>9878085
Chiffon is hard as hell to rip and tear. We are talking about brand chiffon, right? That stuff doesn't snag at all. What the hell are you doing with chiffon?
>>9878088
Linen just isn't luxurious in looks.
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>>9878863

Pattern-matching is exactly why I'm trying to avoid godets and panels, ha. The border looks to be 25-30cm tall so I'm trying to avoid tiered skirts in case it cuts the print off oddly.

Looks like I don't have many options though. Thanks for replying.
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>>9878793
There was a lot of drama, but she's really sweet nowadays.
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>>9878950
>she's really sweet nowadays
Source?
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>>9878952
Actually talking to her.
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>>9878953
In person or on social media? You got me curious now, anon. What is she like today?
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Did somebody buy it ? I wish I could see the upcoming dressed
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>mfw I specifically requested this rerelease
BASED MOITIE
BASED MANA
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>>9878991
Oh wonderful! I'm happy for you, anon!
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>>9878793
I think she's changed a lot, there's no reason to hate her nowadays
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>>9878991
Any speculation when? I want that dress but I also want >>9878249
My wallet can't keep up anymore
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>>9878872
Current partners? Are you in a throuple? Please tell me more.
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>>9878998
>throuple
The kids call it polyamory, anon, get with the times.
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>>9879002
Ah right, well I'm a busted old biddy so I wouldn't know
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>>9878872
ditched a normie
gained two boyfriends who love what you do. that upgrade is oals
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>>9879002
>polyamory
Gross hippies
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What store on taobao is good for underskirts? I'm finally accepting that I'm too tall to not use one, and I'd like some recommendations if possible!
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>>9878991
I am so fucking pumped for this. I requested this one, too; might buy both colorways.
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>>9877056
How is Sheglit's OTK sizing?
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>>9879051
I have one from Little Dipper and it's very nice. Not sure if they still have them though.
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>>9878826
Just make a thread anon. We normally have them any way and shitposters lately are knocking them off the board.
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>>9878998
I’m in an open relationship with two guys and they are free to pursue other people. One is super enthusiastic about me wearing lolita and he helps me decide which dresses to buy. And he is a super weeb. The other is indifferent to it but he doesn’t knock it and he does enjoy seeing how happy I am when I wear lolita. He is a lowkey nerd. I’m pretty content.
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>>9879005
>watching your girlfriend kiss another guy passionately
I'm sure you think this is hilarious or you get off on degradation.
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>>9879192
It's called a cuck fetish you pleb
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http://lolita-kaitori.com/
Am I stupid or does this shop only buy stuff and doesn't sell it?
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sucrets
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>>9879205
They have a yahoo and rakuten shop.
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Are there scans of the newest tulle anywhere yet? I bought it but I’m downward spiraling into depression while waiting.
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>>9879272
Nobody even scanned the first volume. I just saw a couple of pics on tumblr.
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>>9879274
where? the tulle magazine tag only has 1 picture
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Can you order Boz direct to US now on their new site?
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>>9878047
come off it anon, im underweight but im tall so my tits come at a different level than yours. highwaisted looks cute on girls that are the exact height the dress was intended for but nobody else.
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>>9879192
say what you want, but anon's taking two dicks at once without even cheating
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>>9878915
>tranny
Carmina is m2f?
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>>9879592
Wait what? Link? I don't see what you're referring to.
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>>9879015
This
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>>9879648
No, she just has a lot of haters
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>>9878448
My husband is pretty attractive. I see girls check him out and it makes me laugh because I get it. He’s a work of art.
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>>9879192

They did say it was oals, anon.

Oals.
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>>9879141

Is there enough interest to keep it going? I could keep it going for a couple of days dumping other people's handmade but it's sorta pointless if other people aren't into it at the moment. Someone started the previous thead when a new issue of OnS was coming out so there was at least something to hype up.
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>>9879890
I'm basically stalking all of the sites I know to stalk for info on OnS 13 so I can dump photos and chatter about it. Usually they come out in May and November, so it's mildly concerning they haven't said ANYTHING about it yet.
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>>9878797
I think this anon is right, lolitas have ugly boyfriends because they don't date normies. A lot of lolitas work in tech and are interested in anime and gaming, so they date the gross dudes who flock to those things.

Not all lolitas though. My bf is a qt.
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>>9878977
looking at her sleeves it seems it's a print like shadow dream carnival
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>>9878977
Mintkismet posted scans on FB
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>>9879999
Can you repost here? Is it public?
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Have VM Rococo Bouquet pre-orders shipped out yet? I was gonna contact Tokyo Rebel to confirm but I didn't want to do it if it hasn't even arrived yet.
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>>9880458
The hair accessory has arrived for me.
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>>9880458

My SS said some orders were delayed until middle of May. I'm waiting for the OP in mint myself.
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https://youtu.be/FGQlY_16844
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Lacemarket hasn't replied to my email and my facebook message.. what should i try now or am I at a loss?
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>>9880648
How long has it been? It took them like two weeks but they replied to my fb message
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>>9880649
Ah I see. My email was about a month ago, and my facebook message is only almost a week. I'll wait a little longer then.
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>>9879897

Dang, I hope it's just a bit delayed and not getting discontinued. It's the only magazine I actually look forward to anymoer.
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>>9880668
Same. I'm really getting worried. Just looking at my amazon jp orders... I ordered OnS11 on May 9, 2017. It came out on and shipped on the 29th. If May comes and goes without hearing anything, I'm gonna be REALLY fucking freaked out.
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>>9880634
Huh. It's interesting to see the really old pieces, the part towards the end about the name of the fashion was interesting, and ngl I want one of those ridiculous frill monster OPs like the black Meta one they showed.
Also, pic related made me laugh. Good to know Jojo is lolita!
Thanks for sharing, anon!
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>>9880634
https://m.imgur.com/a/hCGWUS1
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>>9878448
My boyfriend is a bit of a butterface but I keep him around because he’s got a huge cock and musculature like a Greek statue. But my husband is extremely conventionally attractive. I catch both women and men checking him out on the reg.
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>>9880717
>I'm totally a woman you guise
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So snapchat had a filter now with the Honeycake headbow, thoughts?
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>>9880789
whoa, anyone got pics?
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>>9880809
Here's a pic I got from the RC discussion.
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>>9880814

I know Snapchat filters are supposed to look goofy, but they look so terrible all the time. I can't stand how they look. They don't even look goofy in a cute or funny way. They just look bad
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>>9880822
I like floral wreath filter, it's both. cute and meme-able
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>>9880789
Hope they get sued, snapchat is a plague.
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>>9877924
That's not the case though, I have multiple selfies with her and seen her twice in person, she's legitimately cute.
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Can anyone identify that btssb dress? I didn't find it on lolibrary and it looks fairy old.
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>>9880833
here's the tag if that helps
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>>9880833
Best I found is that it could be a Sugar Bouquet variation. I can't find that exact cut, but some of the older OP's look similar and it seems to be the same fabric.
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>>9880833
Oooh I love this game. It's https://lolibrary.org/items/btssb-angel-print-grosgrain-op That one was tricky because it actually has detachable sleeves so I went down the wrong rabbit hole for a while.
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Does anyone else really want to use AliceHolic for posting coords and following but finding the app super crappy? It is super slow, sometimes doesn't let me crop my photos, and when it does, the crop doesn't really work, and end up zooming in much more?

I already tried updating it but it's up to date. It's such a good idea but such poor execution.

Also trying to find inspo is really fucking hard because nobody wants to use specific tags beyond the brand name.
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>>9880832
I've seen her irl too anon, please accept not everyone has the same fugly taste as you. I'm not saying she's horrid looking but def not model material in my country (and my country loves asian models)
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>>9880951
>being this jelly of a cute asian model
kek
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>>9880940
I use it to post but only on a desktop/laptop. depending on the browser I have a similarly hard time with the cropping function. I put up with it, I guess.
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>>9880940
Japanese apps are usually this slow. I remember when I was 13 or so playing almost all otome games available in English for Android phones and every time I pressed a button, it would take a lot to load.
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>when I was 13
>playing games on Android
Wew, thanks for making me feel old, anon.
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>>9880954
Read the thread, this discussion started because people were complaning about a white no1curr doing 1-2 lolita shoots because she's too ugly. Imo a lot of weebs have yellowfever and Kera models are not that good-looking to begin with.
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>>9880987
>>9880940
Could be because internet in Tokyo is super fast
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>>9880940
I stopped using it for the exact same reason. I've told them about the bug, they said they fixed it, it was only worse. I've reported it again, but no response so I doubt they can fix it.
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I made this earlier. it's dumb but it makes me chuckle. pls use if you like!
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>>9881063
How does fast internet make their apps shitty?


Also being Japanese is not an excuse for having a shitty app. Plenty of games are made in Japan.

I just want a good place to get more specific lolita inspo, such as coord colors, print names, substyle, theme, kind of like how LJ used to be.
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>>9881063
Lol no, they just don’t know what they’re doing
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>>9881247
They make heavier apps because their internet can handle it
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Is WhiteLythande on Lacemarket a con reseller?
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>>9881061
Except those models are cute, even if you claim photoshoop!!!!111!!, while the Kera model really isn't, even with the photoshop.
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I've heard lolitas plan sleep over meets and would like to plan one myself. However, I'm obsessed with the idea of having it at a nice airbnb or hotel room, decorate it with flowers, macarons and fancy drinks. Attendees would wear night-themed coords with sleep masks headdresses.
However, I seriously doubt enough would want to pitch in to make it happen.
>Tfw I might never fulfill my dream of recreating Blair's soireé
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>>9881307
It would be more fun with friends instead of strangers or randos desu
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>>9877995
At least they'll get some classic lolita money with that awful not-Moitie-blue colorway? I'd actually like to see some darker themes going on. I don't buy gothic to have benign dresses like this.
>>9878033
mte
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>>9881334
>cue in sweet dreams are made of this
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>>9881334
Do they sleep in their wigs? wtf
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>>9881401
No. Typically one would stay in their coord for a while then change to pajamas.
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>>9881307
I would love to do this but I think my comm would be weirded out by the idea. We aren't super close but I can imagine this would be super fun and cute. Plus you could have some nice alcohol without worrying about drinking and driving.
>where I live there is a zero tolerance to drinking and driving, so you can get ticketed even if you are driving with one drink
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>>9881307
>>9881313
>>9881334
>>9881395
>>9881496
wow. i'm super down for this
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What's Pina Sweetcollection? From what I gather it's a Japanese indie brand? Does anyone have any idea of the quality, or have any of their things in their own collection?
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Did anyone save the deleted secret from yesterday? I missed out
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>>9881556
It was about someone age playing, showing their pants etc.
It was removed by request of the person involved.
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>>9881559
I know how btb works. I was asking if anyone had it saved so I could actually see the disaster with my own two eyes. I already figured out the context by reading the comments of the deleted post
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>>9881560
Oh ok, sorry.
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VM items available at AtePie's private party.

I'm not sure how to feel about VM using the Classical Doll cut for their prints.

I wish they would release more accessories for Lazy Afternoon, though.
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>>9881573
I love VM, but that looks very taobao.
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>>9881556
Pretty dull post, imho. Just some salty lolita unloading their creepy hoard of blackmail.

It was a pic of an overweight person in a lolita dress and then 'art' that they had drawn, as well as a few pics of them in a maid dress they wore with diapers? I think. The pics weren't that clear.

The lolita pic was fine, and the maid dress, there's no arguing against that. I guess the art was iffy, but iirc there's a ton of lolita and diaper art out there and dragging it up to the surface is asking for attention from the wrong people.

BtB is dying. All it is now is Mana-memes and vendettas.
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I know some girls have been looking for real leather bags. Although its only a coin purse, here is a super cute strawberry case made from real leather, that would be very suitable for lolita

>http://www.andcompany.co.jp/items/10998492

I really hope they use the same texture and make a full sized bag.

>they also have a bunch of other cute items like melon textured bags and pass cases
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>>9881334
I heard "sleepover" is something mostly Western girls do and that's how it's perceived in Japan. Are Japanese lolitas trying to get in on this? Or are they Chinese?
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>>9881304
Why are you do offended by other opinions? >>9877668 is right. They're not model-like beauties and they don't have to be.
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>>9881357
Moitie has used that blue before, and that dress is the short version of something they've released like 10 years ago so bye
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>>9881511
google is your friend, new one.
look up reviews.
>yes, it's J indie
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>>9881583
>beautiful print
>sturdy fabric
>great looking lace
>no connection left without adorned trim
>I love VM, but that looks very taobao.

Nani?!?!?!
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>>9881668
Why are you so offended by other opinions? They look good in the magazines and photos they're in, while the Kera model doesn't.
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>>9881894
What are you even talking about?




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