GMO avocados like this when?Fuck greenpeace
Enjoy all that fat Mr reddit
will they cost a dollar more?
>>10138486I'm not gay, but I strongly prefer fruits with nuts in it.
>>10138501>I'm fat because of all the avocados I'm eatingThis has never happened.>>10138504If you get other GMO benefits like less spoiled harvest and less pesticides needed then they will probably be cheaper
>>10138486You could probably breed them to have a smaller pit, no GMOs needed for that. I think pitless avocados are beyond the scope of our current GM abilities.
>>10138509This, it's part of the enjoyment for me.
GMOs are the only way to solve the coming food crisis. Anyone who is against GMOs are anti-science, you belong over there with the flat earthers and creationists.
>>10138486pic is the state of your balls?
>>10138565>Thinks a cross section of testicles looks like thatConfirmed as pleb who's never cooked rocky mountain oysters.
>>10138564The only way? You sure about that
>>10138486I'm millennial what is this
>>10138553>You could probably breed them to have a smaller pitThen why aren't people doing that?Why do you still get fucked over by BIG PITS from time to time?>>10138564Being anti GMO is pretty much like being anti-vaccine. You should forfeit certain benefits if you are.
>>10138504With a dollar's worth of avocado where the pit used to be (avocados are expensive where I live)
>"GMOs are bad" memeEducate yourself, op.
>>10138501>all fat is badLiterally what I'd expect from someone who just wandered over from /b/. Hope you're enjoying your first day visiting naughty sites. It's bed time soon though!
>>10138486You won't have enough toast for all that, soyboy.
>>10138486how will we grow more if all the seeds disappear OP? great plan retard
we just need avocados in the shape and skin of bananas
>>10138564wow, now we can feed all those people that don't need to exist thus expediting the decline of earththanks gmos
>>10138534>This has never happened.you'd be surprised. Fat +sugar is a dreaful combo
>>10138933>Fat +sugar is a dreaful comboThis is true. One time I drank a glass of milk and now I have AIDS.
>>10138957Weird, I got my AIDS from sucking cock
>>10138564>>10138646>GMOs are the only way to solve the coming food crisis. Anyone who is against GMOs are anti-science, you belong over there with the flat earthers and creationists.Countries heavily invested in GMOs, ie U.S.A. and Canada, have zero food security issues. In fact, they eat too fucking much.Or do you think glyphosate-resistant corn, soy, cotton, and canola are somehow saving the planet? Instead of responsible and timed application of glyphosate, farmers just haphazardly soak fields in the stuff, creating a nice selective pressure that has already resulted in the discovery of glyphosate-resistant weeds. And the effect of glyphosate on suppressing fungi antagonistic to phytopathogens. Not to mention the high amounts of glyphosate residue entering our food supply, which clearly has an impact on our gut microbiota.If there were no GMO foods it would have zero impact on your quality of life. But no, you need your corn ethanol and ubiquitous soy in all your food. Soyboys demand more efficient soy production! Maybe you'll be lucky and we'll find out that glyphosate swings the gut microbiota in favor of species unable to metabolize genistein, so you'll have an even richer Soyboy body.
>>10138486Reminder that the only real problem with GMOs is the fact that wide scale work on them is done by inherently corrupt corporations.
>>10138999>sees that countries with gmos have no food security issues>thinks this is a reason to abandon gmosGenuinely hilarious. Also, I've read a lot on the glyphosate issue, and you're a complete crackpot if you buy into it. We consume so fucking little it's insane
>>10138776Why not engineer them to grow in the shape of a jar with a lid so you can scoop out some and save the rest for later? I feel like scientists are really slacking.
>>10138766Ever heard of pineapples? Or seedless watermelons? You know almost every apple tree that grows edible apples was made from a cutting, right? An apple tree grown from seed with edible apples is a very rare thing.
>>10139122>Reminder that the only real problem with GMOs is the fact that wide scale work on them is done by inherently corrupt corporations.this, we've been genetically modifying food and animals for millenia.
>>10139158>LD50 is the end all, be allkekAnd nowhere did I say GMO R&D should be abandoned. There are two types of scientific illiterates: those who are afraid and those who aggressively accept everything under the guise of progress. GMO crops have had zero impact on food security in the western world. We should continue R&D to develop potentially useful crops that can be employed when needed and when deemed that their potential risks are heavily outweighed by their benefits.Losing glyphosate, the most important herbicide ever, because of irresponsible usage brought on by Roundup Ready crops is a travesty.
>>10139181>Ever heard of pineapples?They are seedless because they aren't pollinated.
>>10139215What’s your point?
>>10139209GMO crops have had massive impact on food security around the world and allowed western countries to reach peak farmland, thereby returning it to forest, combatting the devastating effects of climate change. Kill Yourself.
>>10139226You don't understand the difference between selectively breeding or genetically modifying a plant to suppress sexual reproduction vs. a plant not being pollinated?I think you are just annoyed at finding out that "seedless pineapple" isn't a cultivar or anything special. Cute.
>>10139236>GMO crops have had massive impact on food security around the world and allowed western countries to reach peak farmland, thereby returning it to forest, combatting the devastating effects of climate change. Kill Yourself.Higher prices for corn and soy have led to the conversion of forest and native grasslands to farms. Are you retarded?
>>10139187Perhaps that's the intent of B-corporations. Maybe with enough transparency things would work out.
>>10138486happen upon them frequently enough.problem is, smaller the seed, shittier the taste
>>10138486the bone has tons of goodness
>>10138999If we ended all GMO crops at the next harvest cycles, it would create a famine that would kill a few hundred million people.If we went all organic on top of that, we'd kill well over a billion.There would be wars, disease outbreaks, and massive financial crisis to accompany it.Unless you're going to sterilize most of Africa, there will be no decreases in GMOS for the forseeable future.
>>10139245I gave examples of reproducing plants without using seeds. I even gave an example of using cuttings to make new apple trees. I think you’re obviously picking one of my multiple examples to try to say I’m wrong when clearly i used an example of reproducing trees without growing them from seeds because you’re one of those twats who thinks he’s smarter than everyone else because he’s a militant atheist who spends most of his time on reddit.It’s not cute. You’re a faggot.
>>10138553>>10138646>>10138683Stop saying pits I'm getting a boner
>>10138553We breed seedless watermelons and marijuana, why not avocados without pits? Or peaches without pits?
>>10140250We don’t breed seedless weed, weed is a unique plant that has males and females. That’s not because of us. We simply remove the male plants before they have a chance to pollinate the female plants.
>>10140357so you're just pretending like he didn't mention seedless watermelon I guess
>>10140374I was under the impression seedless wagermelons were a result of selective breeding. I don’t see a point to bringing them up as I was only stating that weed being seedless isn’t a result of selective breeding.
>>10138646>Being anti GMO is pretty much like being anti-vaccine. You should forfeit certain benefits if you are.So much this. We should drop them in the ocean like Pinochet did with communists.
>>10138766It's a great to ensure that people can't grow them at home. If you want them then you'll need to buy them.
>>10139122Also that corporations are now patenting the DNA of mother nature which will eventually lead to a patent on human DNA, along with facial recognition data points and the controversy surrounding the deepfake app, and considering that test tube babies are becomimg more popular as gay marriage is accepted, then we're heading into an era of mail order babies where you can buy and choose the DNA of the baby and eventually we'll end up with a human race of the cheapest clones and they'll all be grey. OK, I got carried away but still.
>>10138509This post made me nut(s)
>>10138486>I'm a mongoloid who has stabbed himself removing the stoneIt's darwinism in effect spastic.
>>10139946Literally none of this is true. We had plenty of food before GMOs. With GMOs, all of the countries that were starving before are still starving. The only thing GMOs have accomplished is creating another food related controversy. They were never needed. The only benefit is their profitability to the companies creating them.
>>10140756>we had plenty of food before GMOsWe also had less than a third of the worlds current population, and many of the GMO crops are able to grow in places they otherwise could not. You’re not right.
>>10140710we will all be gender neutral and sexual intercourse will be outlawed but still used extensively in advertising. go figure.it's like there's money to be made by denying you something and selling it to you.
>>10140767GMO crops are less nutritious than real crops so they may as well just eat the dirt cookies.
>>10140778>less nutrition is the same as no nutritionwewlad
>>10140781>frankenfoodsPretty much everyone you eat has been changed a lot by farming practices compared to its wild counterpart. Words like this are just made up to scare people, I'd avoid using them if you want to make a good argument.> so if a single particle of pollen should land on an otherwise pure field, you have a choice of burning it and giving everything to Monsanto lawyers, or just giving everything to Monsanto lawyers as-isApparently they offer to remove the plants if this happens, but yeah big companies will always engage in shady practices. They should be watched for that. But it doesn't have anything to do with GMO foods themselves, it's just about Monsanto specifically as a business which is kind of a separate issue.
>>10140052You lost the argument there
>>10140802>Pretty much everyone you eat>everyone>mfweverything*
>>10140802when you try to censor people you lose credibility and respect instantly and you are a massive faggot and i hate you sincerely.
>>10140804There was no argument. You’re just a faggot.
>>10139946>If we ended all GMO crops at the next harvest cycles, it would create a famine that would kill a few hundred million people.Which GMO plants in use are saving the lives of hundreds of millions of people from starvation?
>>10140873Rice, corn, wheat, and many others
In the U.K., surgeons report increasing numbers of avocado-related injuries. And emergency rooms in London have reported surges in such accidents. "It's a heavy price to pay for an Instagrammable brunch," notes the Independent.[sweetie intensifies]
We're eating atoms.Atoms are the building blocks of everything in the universe and the human body consists of around a billion billion billion atoms for every ten kilograms of body weight. That's a number with twenty seven zeros behind it. I'm about 60 kg so I have around:6,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000...atoms in my body. That's a pretty big number because that's a lot of atoms.Each and every single one of those building blocks that make up my body came from the food that I've eaten throughout my lifetime. My body is literally made up of the food that I eat. You and me both.You are what you eat.I prefer to build and replenish my body, my mind, and my core essence with the natural goodness that was provided to me by Mother Nature. Not some genetically engineered frankenfruit potato that started life in a petri dish under a microscope laden with steroids and aids that cows can't even digest with their four stomachs and digestive enhancing holes that faggot scientists use to practice their fisting technique on. So I say no NO to GMO.
>>10138553Breeding is Genetic Modification
>>10142414it's wrong though
>>10142455No it isn’t. You’re just dumb.
>>10138486>>10138553I am kind of iffy about seedless fruit, makes them more susceptible to dieing out. IIRC there is a fungus killing Cavendish bananas trees in record numbers.
>>10140897>>10142414Explain how Roundup Ready corn and wheat are saving 100s of millions of lives. Better yet, describe which GMO rice lines are actually in commercial usage.
>>10140756>>10140873GMO crops have massively increased yields (overall tonnage produced per acre) by being resistant to common ailments (pests, disease, glyphosate resistant) and increased the areas available to support crops (drought resistant, heat resistant, etc).Those 'starving' countries you mentioned?Have all more than doubled their populations.The population of subsaharan Africa has multiplied 5.5x over in the last 50 years.The UN projects a further 5-6x population growth over the next 50 years.Agricultural production in a few key African nations actually fell massively in the 90s and 2000.The Chinese are currently turning those trends around. They do it in a way that makes Africans miss the Europeans.But whatever.The point is, you're ignorant, uneducated retards with no real world grasp of world affairs or the matters on which you opine.Go back to /a/ or your /sip/ threads.
>>10142403selective breeding isnt the same as modifying a genome directly and i dont understand why everyone thinks otherwise
>>10143546You didn't answer anything they said and just c/p'd some shit
>>10142414Son, the earth is a flat disc. Now that I've said it it's true!
>>10140908classic porn star
>>10143441Go find it for yourself instead of acting like being ignorant is the same thing as being right.
>>10143582People like you should be considered too stupid to live.
>>10143546>GMO crops have massively increased yields (overall tonnage produced per acre) by being resistant to common ailments (pests, disease, glyphosate resistant)The numbers being cited for increased productivity from the adoption of Bt-transgenic corn and other crops are invariably from 2005, a year considerably lower in insect infestations than previous surveyed years. The increased profit margins are from reduced insecticide use, not productivity. And we won't even discuss the issues with planting millions of acres with crops that are toxic to Lepidoptera, an order that contains innumerable key pollinators.>and increased the areas available to support crops (drought resistant, heat resistant, etc).Describe commercially-used GMOs with drought and heat tolerance that are currently being used. There are none. And you mean drought and heat tolerance, not resistance. You clearly don't understand the difference between these terms.The rest of your post is basically saying we should prop up war-torn countries with unsustainable populations and birth rates. Yeah, sounds like a real long-term vision.And agriculture fell in several African nations because of war and instability, not because they lacked GMO tech.Like most people, you champion GMO crops based on mythic plant lines that literally do not exist commercially and beyond controlled lab or field tests.
>>10143770I know which GMO crops are in use and what their selected traits are, you clearly do not. i.e. see:>>10143792>Like most people, you champion GMO crops based on mythic plant lines that literally do not exist, or if they do, they have never been available commercially and are restricted to controlled lab or field tests.
>>10143770>the ability to use more glyphosate, Bt-transgenic cotton and corn (used for biofuel), and resistant papaya has saved 100s of millions of livesMaybe look into what countries actually use or import GMO foods, what those crops are, and their end use. Waving your hands and saying GMOs saved the planet is absurd.
>>10143770>>10143777Pathetic samefag. You made a ludicrous claim and when someone asked you to verify your claim with proof you back down and throw insults.Truly pathetic, and undeniable proof that eating GMO produce makes you dumb. Which suits most governments because they don't want anyone questioning their actions or motives. DUDE. Smoke up, Johnny.
>>10143546>muh carcinogenic crops are feeding the third world because every first world country rejects them because those countries care about their citizens and aren't owned by big agri/chemical.Sure, if you're starving, you eat radioactive waste and the only first world country that permits slopping that shit in the populations' pig trough is the US. Keep supporting Agent Orange derivatives which were declared safe. The victims of that debacle sure got renumeration just like you will when you contract cancer in 20 years.How many Monsanto and Dupont execs eat at the GMO pig trough with their families? Oops, none! Enjoy living in the US banana republic.
>>10138564>GMOs are the only way to solve the coming food crisisHoly shit, you GMO shills are worse than telemarketers and ambulance chasers. Go play in traffic blindfolded.
>>10143821You’re a fag and you’re dumb and wrong. It’s not our job to make you learn.
>>10144032no uyou shouldn't say thing you don't mean. and if you mean what you say you'd back it up with meaningful data.
>>10144032>phone postingopinion discarded by default. hidden saged reported etc.
>>10143864>GMO shillsThis isn't a thing, its just people saying basic logical, factually true things. You can't be a shill if you are just saying normal, factual things that all educated people know to be true, its like saying someone is a shill for gravity if they recognize that gravity is a thing, or calling someone a auto industry shill if someone points out cars are better than horses for transportation
>>10144074>it's just people making things up to justify their poor choices and gmo addictionSorry you can't afford real food.
>>10138564>only wayI can think of a couple of others...
>>10144077>gmo addictionthats a new one
>>10144130>promoting the high carb diet to keep wgae slaves energized created more problems, with obesity, so we're looking into ways to breed caffeine into crops instead>source: unknowncaffeine is addictiveand remember; >>10144032>It’s not our job to make you learn.>>10143770>Go find it for yourself instead of acting like being ignorant is the same thing as being right.
>>10144150dude, what are you talking about?
>>10144161read it again
>>10144130Americans are conditioned to rabidly defend the need for herbicide-resistant GMO food crops. They have even voted AGAINST having GMOs identified on packaging ingredient lists. They cannot go against their corporate programming.
>>10144162Haphazardly referencing posts from before I was in the thread and talking about caffeine?What does caffeine have to do with anything?
>>10144168Truer words are rarely spoken. It's sad to witness, really. I pity those people.
>>10144168probably because there is literally nothing wrong with any of thisI'd much rather make scientific, fact based policy than ban shit because it sounds like scary chemicals.Also, GMO labels are super misleading, there is no one dietarily relevant characteristic binding "GMOs" together, GMO is a super broad term and there is certainly nothing inherently bad about it. Putting GMO warning labels on this just serves to trick uneducated people into thinking GMOs are badThe natural food lobby has already spent insane amounts of money trying to trick people into thinking GMOs are bad, and if you really insist on not eating GMOs, non GMO products are always super fucking clear and obnoxious about making you know you are such so even if you make the factually incorrect decision that you should avoid GMOs, this law isn't necessary, its addressing an issue that doesn't exist
>>10144183>Giving the consumer more information about what they are purchasing is wrong, because they may decide not to purchase a product if they knew more about itkek
>>10144183>The natural food lobby has already spent insane amounts of money trying to trick people into thinking GMOs are bad,I'd hazard a guess and say Monsanto et al. have spent FAR more on convincing consumers it is fine.
>>10144192Putting warning labels on things that are not worthy of being warned against is harmful to the public and economy, and rather uncalled forProducts that refuse to use modern techniques and avoid GMOs are super fucking loud about it. This is really not an issue at all, everyone already knows whether they are eating an old fashioned GMO free product
>>10144183>Putting GMO warning labels on this just serves to trick uneducated people into thinking GMOs are badThen remove all the other labels as well>gluten free>fat free>sugar free>nutrition free>shut up and give me your money
>>10144199Keep in mind that Whole Foods is bigger than Monsanto, and was recently bought by Amazon, the largest company in the world.While there is certainly money on both sides, there is a lot more going into the "natural" side than the "science" side
>>10144183>there's nothing wrong with gmothen why do pedophile scientists need to cut holes into cows to monitor the digestion of gmo grains? while pouring in acids to help break down those grains.
>>10144203This logic makes no sense. None of those labels are legally required (unless you include the sugar content on the nutrition label)But good point in how the gluten free label has been marketed similarly misleadingly to the GMO free label, although unlike with GMOs there are actually a very small portion of the population for which gluten is harmful so there is at least a modicum of legitimacy behind that label (but the marketing behind it has convinced a whole fucking lot of people that gluten should be avoided in general)
>>10144222Give one example of gluten free marketing that suggests, or even implies, that gluten is harmful to the general populous. Just one example. One. 1.Why are you emotional vested in defending GMOs?
>>10144242The very fact that you are marking boldly that a product is gluten free suggests that the consumer should avoid glutenThese marketers have literally convinced people that non-celiac gluten sensitivity is a thingYou should be ashamed for spouting this Dr OZ/Food babe tier shit
>>10138486Interesting, I have 6 avacado trees. No Haas. I would not mind putting in a half dozen more. I wonder where cuttings are available.
>>10144242>Why are you emotional vested in defending GMOs?Generally when people say factually incorrect things along with insane conspiracies, it elicits a negative response from normal people. Its hard not to correct people who loudly argue wrong things
>>10144262I'm still waiting for that one example of misleading advertising. And now I want one example of a real person who genuinely believes that gluten could be harmful to them because they saw a label on a product to specify that the product is free of gluten.
>>10144299>I'm still waiting for that one example of misleading advertisingI am saying advertising your product as being free of something that is not harmful is inherently misleading
>>10144299also another example is when you see raw fucking meat advertised as being gluten free. Or any beef that is advertised as GMO free when there are no GMO breeds of cow even availableBoth examples are misleading people into thinking competitors without such labels are selling products that do not adhere to that standard when that in fact is factually implausible. It clouds what a fact even is to uneducated people
>>10138999Is this a new pasta
>>10144317read this >>10140911 and think about how food is redeposited throughout the body. most of what you eat gets broken down and deposited somewhere in your body.when cows are force fed crap that crap gets deposited somewhere in their body. you eat crap, you become crap.
>>10144200>Putting warning labels on things that are not worthy of being warned against is harmful to the public and economy, and rather uncalled forRight, so any ingredient not associated with allergies, drug interactions etc should not be labelled lest people think they are bad. No need to list artificial ingredients, colours etc. because some 1950s papers found low LD50s.>>10144206>Whole Foods is bigger than MonsantoCheck their quarterly earnings friend.
>>10144325No I'm just a plant pathologist who actually knows something about this topic.
>>10139251Corn and soy both have artificially increased prices through government subsidies and intervention. The US government alone buys millions of tonnes of corn every year and just destroys it to keep prices high.
>>10144353>The US government alone buys millions of tonnes of corn every year and just destroys it to keep prices high.Nope.And regardless of the pricing structure, the fact is GMOs have not led to conversion of farms to forest and native grasslands. Anon was completely wrong.
>>10144346>when cows are force fed crap that crap gets deposited somewhere in their body. you eat crap, you become crap.what does this have to do with anything?
>>10144309>I am saying advertising your product as being free of something that is not harmful is inherently misleadingFalse equivalence. Gluten is, in fact, very harmful to a lot of people. And your GMO grains are likely the cause.>rate of GMO use = UP>rate of foodborne illnesses = UP
>>10138646>Being anti GMO is pretty much like being anti-vaccine. You should forfeit certain benefits if you are.Sort of. Vaccines have undeniable benefits with very low risk. Many GMOs do as well, but I worry about the effects of big corporations (or whomever) that are not beneficial to consumers but to their bottom line. So I guess in that sense being anti-GMO is more like being anti-pharmaceuticals. The vast majority of it is quite beneficial, but there's room for fuckery.
>>10144376Getting rid of vaccines would actually result in many deaths in the western world. Getting rid of GMO foods would not.
>>10144361Exactly. Your entire body, including your brain, is completely made up of the food that you eat, and when your diet is compromised so too is your brain development.
>>10144348>Right, so any ingredient not associated with allergies, drug interactions etc should not be labelledThe surely shouldn't have a legally mandated warning label against factually good things>Check their quarterly earnings friend.well they were both bought by larger companies last year. Whole food was already bigger, and now its part of the largest company, while Monsanto was bought by Bayer, a smaller German company. Remember, Monsanto was never this evil, massive monolith that hippies always try and paint it. It was just a mid size agriculture company
>>10144352>a plant pathologist who is against GMOsThis is obviously bullshit. The US population doesn't need GMOs to survive, obviously, but there is no doubt that the ability to grow more food on less land is good for the environment. America grows more food than ever on less farmland than has been used in over 100 years. Returning this farmland to nature is reward enough
>>10144363>And your GMO grains are likely the cause.They are?
>>10144363>>rate of GMO use = UP>>rate of foodborne illnesses = UPsolid logic
>>10144385>Returning this farmland to naturewew. you over did it.
>>10144385>Returning this farmland to nature is reward enoughSHUT UP AND TAKE MY DONATION™
>>10144376>but there's room for fuckery.You can say this about literally anything. The FDA standards for bring a GMO to market are already absurdly high
>>10144262>These marketers have literally convinced people that non-celiac gluten sensitivity is a thingYou're right. It's a GMO sensitivity that is often misdiagnosed as a gluten sensitivity bcause the GMO grains contain gluten.
>>10144309>I am saying advertising your product as being free of something that is not harmful is inherently misleadingDo Millennials really believe that cooking with honey is unsafe because the label says it's "RAW" honey?
>>10143792I agree that the 3rd world deserves a 100% genocide so we can end GMO crops.I'm glad we're on the same page.
>>10144399what the fuck happened to him
>>10144478he ate a peanut
>>10144192>>10144363Retard that buys "NATURAL", "HORMONE-FREE!", "NO TRANS FATS", "MULTIGRAIN BREAD", "REAL", "GRASS-FED", "PREMIUM" and "GLUTEN FREE!" products detected.GMO is a very broad term, and there's an inherent bias towards it. Same as "NATURAL", which is not even fucking mutually exclusive with "GMO" (or meaningful at all).
>>10144553Just letting you know that of all the made up labels you mentioned, the only one I genuinely subscribe to is the 'grass fed' one. Because God didn't design cows to eat frankmutant gmo aids infested grains.
>>10144571>>10144571That's too an unregulated term man, and as of 2016 it doesn't even have a definition by the FDA.
>>10144591Yeah, I know. They could feed a cow one single blade of grass and say "grass fed".I get my meat from a quality independant butcher who knows his shit, but seeing the 'grass fed' label on dairy rpoducts at the store is appealing to me.
>>10144484gluten nut free free
>>10138646big pits are a meme, it's a different variety of avocado.
>>10138646>Being anti GMO is pretty much like being anti-CGI in news programs. You shouldn't care if it's just fake news. Shut up and eat it up!SIR YES SIR
>>10144464Millenials throw away month old honey because when it crystalizes they think it's spoiled.
>>10139946Yes, a change like that would likely kill millions of the uneducated, those who can't provide without a grocery store. Those who've upheld the archaic art of germinating and growing organic food from seed will not notice a drop in daily fresh food intake. Sure, there'd be fallout from the change but millions living within a few square miles is an abomination anywho and it's a worthwhile cost of business imo
>>10139946>Unless you're going to sterilize most of AfricaGo on...Seriously though, it's a waste of a perfectly good continent.
>>10138486I don't care much about the seed in the middle of an avocado, I would like it if they found a way to prevent it from turning mushy and grey and brown as soon as you look at it thoughI want GMO mangos though, the seed is like 70% of the fruit and you feel ripped off
>>10140374They still have seeds dude, they just don't mature into the hard black ones because they're sterile.
>>10138847Faggot, you post on 4chan
>>10140413you can't just grow some avocados in your back yard at a minutes notice anon
>>10138564>GMOs are the only way to solve the coming food crisisHow about let nature run its course?
>>10145283Fuck yes, imagine a mango that was nothing but meat. Glorious.Also I'd love seedless pomegranates
GMO's aren't technically bad, but I could see how quickly it could turn into something terrible. I couldn't care less, I smoke and drink like a sailor so feed me whatever.
>>10145743but my mum said i can do anythingfun fact: so did yours.
>>10144474>I agree that the 3rd world deserves a 100% genocide so we can end GMO crops.Again, provide actual facts and examples showing that the food supply of 3rd world countries depends on GMO food crops (= glyphosate resistant GMOs, for the majority).You and other ignorantly pro-GMO people in this thread merely speak in vague platitudes. "GMOs save lives" yet you can't say which specific GMOs save lives and how their adoption has led to marked increase in productivity in such countries.You think GMO crops means we are planting crops that are invincible and 10,000% more productive. I suggest you actually look into what commercialized GMO crops are in use. And what the end use of such crops are (e.g.: Bt-transgenic cotton, glyphosate resistant corn and soy largely used for biofuel etc.).The fact is, you know about as much as the equally ignorant anti-GMO side. You both speak as vague as possible on your position, basing your argument more on emotion or hypothetical rationale that doesn't actually reflect what is currently happening in the fields today.
>>10144553I hunt and when I buy meat at the grocery store, why would I choose to buy meat from animals treated with non-therapeutic antibiotics and hormones? Why would I want to eat as much hydrogenated vegetable fats as possible? Why would I prefer animals that are fed soy and corn byproducts? Ever wonder why the studies showing the benefits of butter are rarely reproducible in N. America vs. Europe? Grass-fed butter (and meat) contain higher contents of conjugated linoleic acid, omega-3 fatty acids, vitamin A, and antioxidants like superoxide dismutase and glutathione. But no, food is food and it's all about calories.
>>10144385>Returning this farmland to nature is reward enoughIt would be if this is happening. It isn't. More grassland and forests are being converted to farmland than vice versa. What, you think that as productivity increases and corn/soy prices rise people are going to leave fields to fallow?Provide numbers showing this absurd notion, I'll provide one:>Here, we use land cover data from the National Agricultural Statistics Service Cropland Data Layer to assess grassland conversion from 2006 to 2011 in the Western Corn Belt (WCB): five states including North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Minnesota, and Iowa. Our analysis identifies areas with elevated rates of grass-to-corn/soy conversion (1.0–5.4% annually). Across the WCB, we found a net decline in grass-dominated land cover totaling nearly 530,000 ha. With respect to agronomic attributes of lands undergoing grassland conversion, corn/soy production is expanding onto marginal lands characterized by high erosion risk and vulnerability to drought. Grassland conversion is also concentrated in close proximity to wetlands, posing a threat to waterfowl breeding in the Prairie Pothole Region. Longer-term land cover trends from North Dakota and Iowa indicate that recent grassland conversion represents a persistent shift in land use rather than short-term variability in crop rotation patterns. Our results show that the WCB is rapidly moving down a pathway of increased corn and soybean cultivation. As a result, the window of opportunity for realizing the benefits of a biofuel industry based on perennial bioenergy crops, rather than corn ethanol and soy biodiesel, may be closing in the WCB.Wright, C.K. and Wimberly, M.C., 2013. Recent land use change in the Western Corn Belt threatens grasslands and wetlands. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 110(10), pp.4134-4139.
>>10138630>Idiot see chef on tv removing core using knife, wanna do too.>Stab the shit out of core instead of light chop.>Surprised that knife passes through stuff if force is appliedI'm always amazed at people that don't understand knives at 16+ years of age.
If mankind doesn't stop Monsanto, then Monsanto will stop mankind.#noGMO
>>10146678This very obviously extremist propaganda is right. Kids shouldn't eat vegetables.
>>10138564>putting creationists on the same boat as flat earthershere is your daily reminder that some of the greatest minds in history were religious.
>>10140778Literally the complete opposite. GMO crops often have higher amounts of nutrients and can be modified to have vitamins they wouldn't normally have, such as golden rice, which has vitamin A.
>>10145257>Implying those people who use grocery stores are just going to sit and die from starvationI hope your organic food budget took into account some bodyguards, because people are going to break into your shit in eat your food in front of you while you starve. Hope you enjoy rape for dinner!
>>10144457>GMO allergyno such thingplease stop believing the chain mail that Doris sends you Gramma, you're worrying me
>>10140911>I prefer to build and replenish my body, my mind, and my core essence with the natural goodness that was provided to me by Mother Nature. Not some genetically engineered frankenfruit potato that started life in a petri dish under a microscope laden with steroids and aids that cows can't even digest with their four stomachs and digestive enhancing holes that faggot scientists use to practice their fisting technique on.why?
>>10140911>digestive enhancing holes that faggot scientists use to practice their fisting technique on
>>10140911Tell me, what's the difference between, for example, some myosin protein that was made using carbon molecules from a naturally fed cow and one that was from a massive farm that fed it drugs to keep it from dying and make it bigger?Is that carbon atom somehow different form other carbon atoms?There reasons why feading cows drugs might be harmful for humans, but what you are describing has absolutely nothing to do with any of that. Please stop pretending you know anything about human bodies.
>>10138501Fat is healthy and good for you.
>>10146805Dioxin biomagnification in factory farmed meat.
>>10146984>Dioxin biomagnificationYes, that is a good example of how what we feed the animals we grow for food can affect negatively our own organisms. But it's not something that would affect "building blocks that make up my body" like that poster suggested, but could have harmful effects on kidneys, spleen, or your stomach, for example mercury is a often cited example of a harmful molecule that can get to our bodies due to biomagnification and bioaccumulation.I just have a knee jerk reaction to this new-agey "MUH ATOMS IN MY BODY" nonsense.
>>10147015The truth is that, like it or not, the idiots that subscribe to a vegan/organic diet may do it for misinformed reasons, but they are likely healthier than your average person.
>>10147025Sure, but anyone to pays more attention to their diet more than an average person will usually be more healthy than an average person. I usually also means that people pay more attention to what makes them feel better or worse after eating which helps too.Following a diet is almost always better than eating whatever you want whenever you want, unless you died is completely retarded.
>>10147030>unless you diedunless your dietFreudian slip or just me being bad at typing? You decide.
>corn>soyno wonder Americans are so unhealthy
>>10146709>GMO crops often have higher amounts of nutrients and can be modified to have vitamins they wouldn't normally have>states a single GMO that is not in commercial use
>>10145145Come on, anon, you can easily deride millennials without crossing over into exaggerated absurdity. I mean, in the first place, you have to make a conscious choice to buy pasteurized or otherwise processed liquid honey rather than the packages of crystallised honey right next to them on a store shelf... right?
>>10146690>Kids shouldn't eat vegetables.If they eat Monsanto ""vegetables"" then they'll eventually become a vegetable.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistent_vegetative_stateYou are what you eat.
>>10138630This image is really triggering for me and my gf who also uses this board. Please keep this shit on /b/ where it belongs instead of on one of the work safe boards where trigger rules are enforced.
>>10139122>done by inherently corrupt corporations.Unlike their kind-hearted competitors
>>10149218you are the cancer killing this website
>>10149218fucking kill yourself and your gf (male) you worthless piece of shit
>>10149045Got any evidence to back that up? I keep hearing that GMOs are bad for you, but it's just fear mongering as far as I can tell.
>>10149289Well I think there probably are consequences to using as much weed killer as farmers can use with GMO crops. Not to a say these chemicals are particularly toxic, only that we don't fully understand how consuming them at this rate for 50+ years affects humans.
>>10149289Monsanto Made!>the surgeon general recommends not smoking of consuming gmo foods during pregnancy
>>10149005http://lmgtfy.com/?q=don%27t+throw+away+crystallized+honeyI wonder why there are so many articles that with titles like this though...
>>10149218bait harderoriginal avocado trigger reply
>>10149977I bought a jar of coconut oil but on a hot day the solid oil turned into liquid so I poured it down the sink and now my kitchen is flooded.t. millennial
>>10145304>hard black onesOk that's it, have to fap
>>10138999You know I could just breed some plants that are resistant to glyphosate. Does that solve you're problem, given the crops arent GMOs anymore? The problem you're describing isn't due to the plants being GMOs. If the same farmers overusing glyphosate were using non GMO crops then they'd likely be overusing something else.
>>10144457What does the body react to in the GMO exactly?
>>10150522If anybody knew for sure it would be published and make headline news. But a sensible discussion about the subject can't be had while fools like this >>10150525 are awake.
>>10150533Then please stop spreading lies about shit you have no idea about
>>10150533the kool-aid gets stronger every iteration
>>10150539>no ideaBut that's where you're wrong.What part do you play in the GMO process?
>>10150533Alright, lets set the bar lower, citation (one that hasn't been retracted) where people react to GMO crops and not to non GMO crops?
>>10150522>What does the body react to in the GMO exactly?What are the scientists testing for when they cut holes into cows?
>>10150552Doesn't sound like it'd get past ethics without a good reasonTry again
>>10150563Who said it did? Are you trying to insinuate that Monsanto has ethics? Negro pleeze!
k so GMOs go through rigorous testing to see if they're safe mostly because of shills not for any good reasonworst that can happen is some allergenic protein is produced but that's not very likely because your digestive tract pretty much just reks anything that you eat (stomach acid has a pH of 3)
>>10150574if nothing got past the stomach acid then we'd all be dead from malnutrition. plus foodborne illnesses, like coelicas disease, occur in the intestines.gmos are losing nutritional value and are becoming food fillers. artifially coloured and flavoured synthetic veggies that bright in colour but bland in taste with the nutritional value of cardboard. but we have Vitamin™ Pills™, so it OK™.All we need now is Free™ Health™ Care™.
>>10150592Prove it lad
>>10150592I didn't say that, stomach acid denatures the shit out of proteins so essentially no-ones allergic to anythingyour immune system has to already be intuned to the thing you're allergic to which is mostly genetic but you can develop allergies over decades (smoking and things like will exacerbate the situation)
>>10138486But half the fun is the accidents that occur from dipshits driving knives through their hands.
>>10149218I really hope this is bait but if it isn't then PLEASE fuckoff back to l3ddit.this is a worksafe board in the 4chan sense of the definition.
>>10138564>wanting to solve the food crisisThere are already too many people on this planet, the population needs to be culled, but since we live in the faggot age of PC-ness global starvation is the only feasible way.
>>10150552We've been over this, it's to monitor their gut biome.
>>10150602>I didn't say that, stomach acid denatures the shit out of...fair enough, it just looked to have been implied. i apologize.
>>10138564>the coming food crisisWhat food crisis? You mean Monsanto are creating crops that can grow during a nuclear holocaust? Do you something that we don't? SHOULD I BE WORRIED.
>>10150653i'm sorry, will you forgive me? it would mean a lot if you did.
>>10150640What does the body react to in the GMO exactly?
>>10150646>Do you something that we don't?*know
ITT:"Im right, because youre wrong!"Not a single person was able to come up with evidence or studies from respected sources which shows whether GMOs are good or bad. Good job, faggots.
>>10144212>muh poor cows
>Despite what the manufacturers say, there is ample evidence to show that glyphosate [...] is highly toxic and a serious hazard to human and animal health. There is documentation of miscarriages, birth defects, carcinogenesis, endocrine disruption, DNA damage, neurotoxicity, and toxicity to liver and kidney at levels well below recommended agricultural use >Several countries, among them Denmark, The Netherlands, France, El Salvador and Sri Lanka have recognised the dangers imposed total or partial bans on the use of glyphosate>Other countries, especially those with large chemical and biotech industries and/or a major commitment to industrial farming, take a totally different view. The US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) recently increased the permitted tolerance levels for glyphosate residues in food. http://www.i-sis.org.uk/Deterioration_of_Public_Health.php>>10151028Cows have no concept of wealth.
>>10150640>In fact, groundbreaking research by Dr. Seneff and Samsel reveals that your gut bacteria are a key component of glyphosate's mechanism of harm, as the microbes in your gut have the same pathway used by glyphosate to kill weeds and are decimated by the glyphosate! So please recognize that virtually every GM food you eat will harm your precious gut bacteria. https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/09/24/gmo-alfalfa.aspx
>An increase in the incidence of Type 2 diabetes, obesity and autism has been reported in Scotland. Similar increases have been seen globally.>We present graphs from the US which correlate glyphosate application and the percentage of GE soy and corn crops to the incidence and prevalence of various diseases in those on a Western diet. The Pearson’s correlation coefficients are very strong and highly significant for obesity, diabetes, autism, thyroid cancer, liver cancer, deaths from Parkinson’s, Senile Dementia and Alzheimer’s, inflammatory bowel disease and acute kidney failure. >Other consequences are gastrointestinal disorders, heart disease, depression, infertility, birth defect s and other cancers.https://www.gmoevidence.com/dr-mason-glyphosate-is-destructor-of-human-health-and-biodiversity/For the uninitiated:>What’s the connection between glyphosate and genetically modified crops?>Over 80% of genetically modified (GM) crops grown worldwide are engineered to tolerate being sprayed with glyphosate herbicides,1 the best known being Roundup. The herbicide kills all plant life in the field apart from the crop. These crops are known as glyphosate-tolerant or “Roundup Ready” (RR) crops.>People and animals that eat GM herbicide-tolerant food crops are eating high levels of residues of glyphosate and its main metabolite, AMPA.13 Both chemicals are toxic.https://detoxproject.org/glyphosate/whats-the-connection-between-glyphosate-and-genetically-modified-crops/
>>10151119>>10151090>>10151046so glyphosate is bad so what?smartstax when
> glyphosateALL FUCKING LIES BY BIG SHEEP AND BIG CHICKEN!!!Vegetables, especially Monsanto Certified Organic(tm) are 1000% safe and will NOT give you cancer!!!I trust Monsanto and the FDA over some faggot on a Chinese dish washing forum.
>>10151129I explained that in the post above yours under the subheading "For the uninitiated".You probably missed it.I'm going to bed.
>>10151129>so glyphosate is bad so what?So, it explains alot of the abnormally high cancer rates and common digestive issues among some vegans.
>>10151132>I trust Monsanto and the FDA over some faggot on a Chinese dish washing forum.Fun Fact: The head of the United States Food and Drug Administration is no other than Michael Taylor, ex- C Executive of Monsanto Inc.Michael Taylor can expect a nice raise and executive position back at Monsanto when he's done directing the FDA.
>>10151133>>10151137Smartstax is a using a combination of GMOs pesticides and other techniques (like plants different crops between rows) so you don't lean to hard on one strategyalso glyphosate had to go through approval processes too so who are you blaming
you can also GM some crops to be directly pest resistant (eg btCorn)GMOs are literally a godsend
>>10151152>glyphosate had to go through approval lol>>10151149>Fun Fact: The head of the United States Food and Drug Administration is no other than Michael Taylor, ex- C Executive of Monsanto Inc.
>>10151165'Merica liberal retards can't even understand the concept of "Conflict of interest."
>>10151165but it didsilent spring came out in the 50s pesticides are regulated as fuck
I endorse this product or service.
>>10138553>breedingWhat do you thing GMO means? Domestic crops are GMO's. Stop thinking of laboratories you fucking sheep.
So now that the pesticide has settled, can anybody actually prove without doubt that GMO foods are safe to eat?
>>10151155>hey joe, I know you were concerned about the toxic chemicals being sprayed on your food so boy do I have good news, now they're putting it right IN your food!
>>10140911We're eating atoms.Atoms are the building blocks of everything in the universe and the human body consists of around a billion billion billion atoms for every ten kilograms of body weight. That's a number with twenty seven zeros behind it. I'm about 60 kg so I have around:6,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000...atoms in my body. That's a pretty big number because that's a lot of atoms.Each and every single one of those building blocks that make up my body came from the food that I've eaten throughout my lifetime. My body is literally made up of the food that I eat. You and me both.You are what you eat.it's more funny if it stops there
Marks & Spencer was selling stoneless avocados in December last year.
pitted olives are a thing. if we can pay a robot to take the seeds out of olives then we should be able to do it avocados as well. much better than eating a frankenfood thing that may or may not slightly resemble an avocado.
>>10154692that's not how it's works lmao>>10155375bruh everything we eat is Frankenstein as fuck, unless youre into ancient grains and whatnot which is another vegan shillanglethese motherfuckers are persistent
>>10138486Just buy two avocados put the seedless halfs together, wala
>>10155375olives are preserved in brine. once you open an avocado, it starts to discolor. it only takes a second to remove an avocado seed and one avocado is around the size of 25 olives.
>>10138999>zero impact on your quality of lifeMy groceries would be a little more expensive. This is completely unacceptable. t. American
>>10156633>it only takes a second to remove an avocado seedExactly. Which pretty much eliminates the need for a cancerous frankenfruit. Anybody who is too lazy or incompetant to be able to safely extract an avocado seed without burning their house down deserves the HIV that they'll get when the eat a GMO grenade full of shrapnel and radiation.
>>10138486If you knew anything about the taste comparison of olives with pits in compared to without you wouldnt want this
>>10138486>Food you are not allowed to grow>Seedless food>Food you can't growGood goy
>>10158836yeah, because when I buy avocados, its primarily because they come with a free seed so I can plant a new tree and grow more
>>10158268>we won't literally die without this this so we shouldn't have it or put any effort into improving things in life
>>10158868but we will die if we eat it. how is that not sinking in yet?it's literally genocide.