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Last thread >>3105258

Characters that may or may not be gay, but we are not sure. Post also why

From recent anime.
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>that handshake
>that overall boner for Nite Owl II
Pretty homo.
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Every BL yaoi, manga serie etc.. that's all
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>>3130266
do you know what ambiguous means
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I remember reading it was more obvious in the jaoanese version of the game so maybe it even counts as canon
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>>3126803
p sure that was exactly anon's point. though i guess not everyone is great at picking up online sarcasm.
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>>3130267

Did you just assume the sexuality of yaoi characters? Fucking fascists go back to /pol/ reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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These two have a questionable relationship
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>if you don't reveal the characters gender its gay no matter who they fuck
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>shows zero interest in women
>is overtly affectionate to the male protag
>is likely too autistic to realise he's in love with him
>goes full yandere if you don't pick his route
>The anime and manga adaptations are hardly even subtext anymore
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>>3130267
To be fair to >>3130266, shitty BL has a lot of "I'm only gay for you", so you could get into the semantics of whether or not GFYs actually count as gay since they're not attracted to men outside of this one person.

Far as I'm concerned, MSM doesn't necessarily mean gay.
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>>3130946
no homo, bro
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>>3130812
Oh yeah. The whole manga is basically a story of two straight guys in love with each other.
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Dio and Lucciola, most definitely. Dio in particular acts so gay that even Klaus picks up the vibes and is freaked out. Also has absolutely no interest in girls whatsoever (then again, that might have been Delphine-related trauma) and has plenty of slashy moments with Lucciola.

As for Lucciola himself, he very obviously lived entirely for the sake of Dio. Whether that veers into actual romantic territory or not is unsure but then again this is thread for ambiguous gay.
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Though some would argue that it's pretty much canon...
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>>3131025
I could never tell if they were poking fun at fangirls or trying to get crap past the radar
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>>3131090
SE and high-octane homolust is nothing odd. FFXV alone trumps most JRPGs in that regard.
>Prompto: This place is so romantic!
>Gladio: And you get to enjoy it with us.
>Noctis: All THREE of us.
>Ignis: You are a very lucky man.
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>>3131090
Damn, what are the odds? I just came here to post Joshua. Love this guy.
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>zero interest in women
>lack of chemistry with any female character
>Tsundere relationship with Julius and Rean
>Has homo subtext with Julius and stops hating on rich people because of him
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>>3131131
>>zero interest in women
Does he? I remember how showing some interest in some females (As in:Look how pretty she is)

All party member in Tits come off as ambiguous gay due to the lack of interaction with the female party members and their attachment to Rean. Elliot and Gaius aren't that different.
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>>3131133
Fair enough, Machias always just seemed like particularly gay to me due to how tsundere he is with Julius.
Sure he notices girls are pretty but it never really seemed like it came from a place of actual attraction to me at least.
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>>3131133
>All party member in Tits come off as ambiguous gay due to the lack of interaction with the female party members and their attachment to Rean. Elliot and Gaius aren't that different.
Err CS, not tits.
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>>3129943
>inb4 butthurt EMfags screaming about how he's straight
Your ship is cancer and also confirmed to never happen by the author himself, so nice try.
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>>3131092
>that Sex on the Throne cocktail
Wew lad.
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>>3131164
>Luna and Noct consummate their afterlife marriage on the throne
>Luna stares into Noct's eyes, he stares back
>she thinks how handsome he is and how lucky she is to be able to give him her virginity
>he thinks how nice it'd be if this warm hole was Prompto's boipucci instead
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>>3131167
Almost, but wrong bro. That cocktail was named by Ignis.
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>>3131092
>Noct doesn't hate the idea of getting married to Luna, but doesn't seem particularly thrilled
>the other 3 say he's shy, but he shows ambivalence
>obviously cares about her but the romantic feelings are just so forced
>sounds extremely panicked after he realizes he pushed Prompto off the train
>apparently sent Aranea, a former enemy, to go check up on Prompto for him since he wasn't allowed to go after Prompto himself
>angrily asks the real Ardyn "Where is he?! WHERE'S PROMPTO?!" sounding like he's on the verge of tears
>at the end of EP, it shows him rescuing Prompto, pushing open the doors (because they aren't moving fast enough for him) and running to tug at the restraints, while Gladio has to figure out how to open them, with a hugely worried look on his face
>throughout the entire game, does things (in his own words) just to make Prompto smile; "I can if it'll make you happy"
>told Prompto he wished he'd approached him sooner
>Ardyn mocks Noctis, calls Prompto "your dear Prompto", "your beloved", "your heart's desire"
Really makes
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>Prompto spent 3 YEARS LOSING WEIGHT JUST SO HE COULD IMPRESS NOCTIS
>THAT'S REALLY FUCKING GAY ON IT'S OWN I DON'T THINK I HAVE TO GO FARTHER but i will
>very touchy-feely with Noct
>"My hero, Noct~"
>compares himself to being in a fiarytale where he's a princess rescued by a prince (Noctis, obviously)
>always trying to cheer Noct up (and the others, too; I won't be THAT delusional)
>character chemistry chart; "[Noct] a buddy from school who I'd do anything for"
>all his flirting with the ladies seems forced at best, like he's trying to deny his own homo feelings at worst (though he could be bi)
>there's a line some people are saying sounds like he's about to confess something to Noct at the end of the game, but I haven't heard it myself so take this with a grain of salt; "Um, Noct? I, uhh... N-Never mind."
>calls Noct sexy/cute/handsome many times in the Japanese version
>sweetly says "I love you" to Noct in the Japanese version during a bro mission
you think.
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And I get a lot of this IRL wouldn't be that unusual, but in games, music, movies, tv shows, and manga, these types of things often have a much different meaning. In real life, I've seen completely straight female best friends kiss each other on the lips. But if that happened in a fictional series, then it's time to raise some eyebrows.

>>3131169
Wait, did he really?
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>>3131178
>>3131179
Autism aside, one of the main devs mentioned that Noctis' group may or may not have been involved with each other as friends with benefits. So it's half-canon that Noctis fucked his entire retinue.

>>3131180
Aye. News from Gamescom.
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Ignis is a homo until proven otherwise.

>Takes the mother role without complaints.
> When he says he doesn't really like Ardyn, Prompto asks if it's because he is not Ignis' type.
> When Prompto and Gladio are talking about how beautiful Luna will look in her wedding dress and how Noct is sooo lucky to bang such a hot babe, Ignis compliments the dress and designer who made the dress instead.
> Out of the four, shows absolutely 0 interest in women.
> Just wants Noct to be happy.

Also, depending on how it's delivered and if the leaks are true about Ignis DLC, there'll be a surge in Ignoct fanart after it's release, definitely. Nothing substantial, but definitely a showcase of Ignis' and Noctis' strong relationship.
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>>3131189
>friends with benefits
HOLY SHIT SOURCE?!
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>>3131195
Yeah, he's probably a homo.
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>>3131196
That anon's lying. Unfortunately. (There's no way Prompto isn't still a virgin by the end of the game.)
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>>3131196
I remember reading something like that but it sounded more like the dev was saying that "fujos gonna fujo and I can't stop them"
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>>3130853
He loves Maka.
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>>3131199
That was about the nude mods for FFXV PC kek. The closest thing I've seen to affirming the characters are gay is one of the writers (I think Prompto's writer specifically) said that it was easy to write Prompto because he's exactly like him, and listed that they're both "lovable goofballs with crippling depression and eating disorders". And the writer is also openly gay, but that's about it. (And it's not much.)

Although there was...I think Tabata(?) who said that Noctis and Prompto are extremely close and he felt like he didn't convey that enough in the game.
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>>3129943
He may or not be in love with Armin. Could be just friendship and deeply admiration or something else. Eren won't be with any girl anyway and won't get marry or have children ever. He makes me remember Shion a lot, asexual until he realizes he likes another boy.
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>>3131202
He's a huge homo. I was convinced he was straight until I read the manga and realized that he's a very well written semi-closeted faggot.

Such a shame he and his bromodachi hate each other now.
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>>3131197

And even during world of ruin, he seems to take time to groom himself. That hair didn't slick back on it's own. And he has no facial hair either, though that could be because he just... can't grow any facial hair..

Either way, the dude's a fruit. And I don't recall him mentioning that he had any ladyfriends during the time of Noctis being away either, while Prompto was drooling after Cindy and Gladio, I remember someone saying there's a conversation where he mentions something about ladies and girlfriends (no source on that though).
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>>3131207
Apparently he has a girlfriend that wants to marry him after the time skip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usWpT0-RVYY
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>Falling for SE bait
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>>3131207
Cindy is merely a distraction--a way for Prompto to temporarily escape his longing for Noct. As for Iggy, I agree he's probably a "fruit", but using him styling his hair as evidence is kekworthy at best.
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>>3131214

I might be basing a lot of my shallow evidence on stereotypes, but I'm not the one trying to deny Prompto's clear lust for Cindy. Temporary escape huh, now that's kekworthy!
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>>3131204
They don't hate each other. Eren is on his own and we don't know what happened to Armin, but he can't leave the walls because is his responsibility to protect then now.

I thought it was just friendship but when Eren cried for Armin and later hugged him, it was weird.
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>>3131224
His lust always felt extremely forced, but okay.

>>3131237
No, they already most likely hate each other. Isayama's mentioned numerous times of their eventual fallout, and in the latest guidebook said that the ocean scene made Armin realize how little they had in common. That was 4 years ago. I've no doubt they're hardly on speaking terms by now.
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>>3131201
Nah, there was a prerelease comment from the game planner (?), which went something like that. It can be interpreted like >>3131199 said, but it was still a pretty damn unusual statement from a major Jap dev.
>nude mods
Kek, that's a whole separate can of worms. Topless waifus and shirtless husbandos incoming.
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>>3131244
Source. I don't believe that for a second.
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>>3131195
Poor Ignis. It sounded like he was half in denial until the end.
>Ignis: Noct. Once this is all over-
>Noctis: Don't.
>Ignis: ...Alright.
As Noctis himself said, he was pretty much Ignis' whole life.
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>>3131243
What? Isayama said the seashell represents the end of a dream and that Armin and Eren will take different paths. Yeah, he said they won't be friends at the end but they both will die at the end. If you're one of those anons who thinks Eren will commit genocide, sorry to disappoint you. They could not be friends now but that doesn't mean they hate each other, they have no reasons, they just went from different paths.
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>>3131250
Here's a fun game. Who's in denial more: Ignis or this delusional fujo? >>3131251

Face it. They will hate each other. And yes, Eren will most likely commit genocide or Allah Akbar the festival. He is completely and utterly insane.
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>>3131244
Sauce?
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>>3131251
I fucking hate armin
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>>3131255
You and everyone else in the /snk/ generals. Get in line, buddy boy.
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>>3131253
Why the fuck are you here if you're not a fujoshit?
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>>3131255
Cry more.
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>>3131195
>if the leaks are true about Ignis DLC
Which leaks because if it's the stuff about him giving up his eyesight for Noctis that one's been debunked.

>>3131178
>>3131179
I get with a lot of the homolusty stuff here but the idea that Prompto's interest in girls is "forced" sounds like old-school fujo delusion, similar to all the fujos who insist that Lance from the Voltron reboot is only hitting on girls to show he's in the closet because he's 100% gay for Keith. Given Prompto's personality it's not that out of place at all for his interest in Cindy and Aranea to be sincere.
Also not to say that Noctis' supposed love for Luna is well handled because it's pretty fucking terrible but part of the disinterest is just him being tsundere, because early where he double checks that his friends aren't looking before snatching up the book from Umbra and being really happy.

>>3131195
>When he says he doesn't really like Ardyn, Prompto asks if it's because he is not Ignis' type.
When was this because yeah that sounds pretty gay even if it's only for the English script.
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>>3131255
>>3131256
Stopped following SNK after Chapter 50 or so, why does everyone hate Armin? Is it because of Erwin dying for him?
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>>3131295
Because is shit with that stupid hair
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>>3131305
Jean is the best boy
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>>3131287
Ah, so the leak has been debunked. Well the Ignis DLC leak always sounded shifty, so no wonder.

The boat ride to Altissia is when the dialogue happens.
https://youtu.be/aBO_vjfWr7o?t=3m36s

> Prompto: Reckon we'll see him again?
> Ignis: Certainly hope not.
> Prompto: Not your type?
> Gladiolus: No love lost for phonies.
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>>3131344
Yeah here's the original text of the "leak". Definitely safe to say they're fake and besides the "spoilers" sounded like they went against how the Ring of the Lucii were established to work anyway.
https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXV/comments/62xcis/spoilers_dlc_predictions_and_breakdown/dfq1rs7/
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>>3131295
Yes, because he killed the most popular fujo pairing. He also killed BR when ate Bertolt.
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>>3131246
>>3131254
Not that Anon but the closest thing I found was this:
Fan question: "Since it's a bromance road trip, Have you prepare anything for those fujoshi fans?"
"We just want to present it as a bond between male friends but we neither oppose nor support the fans from using their imagination. If they want to believe that they're homosexuals then it's up to them. It's their freedom."

which is a translation from this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbJn9RKZa34
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>>3131509

Yeah that's definitely a roundabout way of saying '' no these guys aren't gay but since fujos might be a notable portion of our (Japanese) consumer-base, we ain't gonna tell them off with their gross fantasies ''

Friends with benefits my ass.
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>>3131513
ah yes, fanservice like non-canon DLC swimsuits
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>>3131513
>implying even outright denial ever stopped fujos
Just look at Samumenco.
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>>3131517
The series that didn't sell shit?
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>>3131513
>implying denying it makes it any less gay
>implying they can't be just friends while also being gay
>implying Prompto doesn't dream of Noctcock every night
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>snk and ff15 collide once again
I-Is it fate?
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>>3129943
This fucker here.
>He shows no interest in females
>calls Astral and Shark the two most important to him
>Somewhat confesses to Astral in the anime
>Somehow ends up with Kotori in the anime

At least manga has Astral confess to Yuma instead.
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>>3131527
Please no, I can only put up with so much Tumblr at once.
At least FF15 fangirls for all their issues haven't gotten quite as horrendous as SNK's.
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>>3131425
Oh so it's mostly just fujos being salty? Jesus. I thought it's because he actually did something shitty.
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>>3131596
XVfujos are leagues above the calamity that is the snk fandom in general.
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>>3131667
XV fujos are normie tier fujos
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>>3131597
He literally survived with an asspull but fujos pretty much hate him because Erwin died and ErwL and BR were sunk. He's also hated by EMfags too.
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>>3131667
What happened? SNK is pretty normalfag, so it shouldn't be particularly insane.
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>>3130857
hate to be that guy but what character is this?
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>>3132013
It's Yamato from Devil survivor 2, I reccomend getting into the 3DS game as the anime doesn't properly represent the source material.
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>>3131985
And his design is shit and nerd

Levi>eren>jean>erwin>>Reiner>Connie>berthold>>>>>>>>>>shit>>>>armin
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Do they count?
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>>3132031
delete this
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>>3131687
In my experience, they're usually mid to late 20s oldfag fujos who've since calmed down at large, believe it or not.

>>3132011
Go to the threads on /a/ and understand the cancer. Or experience it right here in this thread >>3132031
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>>3132120
Christ, is that really the current state of /a/ threads? They were never great but I remember the earlier ones having a lot of good OC.

Yeah that sounds about right for the XV fanbase aside from Prompto and Luna having a lot of younger early to mid teen fans for whatever reason. Some bad fujo habits never die but at least they're less discoursey than the younger gen.
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>>3132031
Armin's beautiful.
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Gilbert is a faggot, it isn't ambiguous at all.
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>>3132255
>aside from Prompto and Luna having a lot of younger early to mid teen fans for whatever reason
The reason is pretty obvious in Prompto's case. He is the youngest and most expressive of the main cast and his problems are the most "childish", for the lack of of a better word. For young teens, things like self-image and personal insecurity are much easier to understand than the more abstract, heavier stuff that worries the older and more cynical rest of the cast.
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>>3132011
Entry level shows have the worst fujos, in my experience. You get all the people who haven't gotten their retardation out of their system yet (or who never will).

>>3132255
SnK threads on /a/ went to shit when the anime was announced and as far as I can tell, they never recovered. Getting anime adaptations ruins a lot of series' fanbases because there are a lot more people who would rather look at pretty moving pictures rather than "boring comics."
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>>3133040
>there are a lot more people
To clarify, there being a mass influx of people in general into a fandom means there's also a mass influx of idiots and autists.
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>>3132595
Isn't Prompto the same age as Noctis? Otherwise yeah, you have a good point.
I do notice that Noctis fans tend to like him more for face value reasons (helps that as the MC he has the most canon material to go off of), while Prompto fans tend to, for lack of a better word, tend to "project" various issues onto him I guess?
Sometimes they take it too far though, and do stuff like write fics and meta that demonize the rest of the party and portray them as uncaring and cruel to Prompto until he shows them just how awesome he really is, or other gratuitously self-indulgent plots I rarely see given to the other characters, aside from Luna.
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>>3133071
Noctis is older by a few months, according to the official data. And yeah, there's a lot of projection going on among Prompto fans. It makes sense that insecure people would gravitate to an insecure character, but they tend to miss the moral of his story, which is that you have to fix your shit yourself.
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>>3130970
>a story of two straight guys in love with each other
Speaking of. I don't think I've ever read a fujo manga where I was more convinced the main character were straight.

I remember the "romantic friendship" thing from certain fandoms years ago, that label describes them perfectly.
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>>3133149
And Anri is canonically bi.
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>>3132592
Did Oz end with that annoying girl with black hair?
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>>3133207
>Alice
>Annoying
But yes, het won. The author has an habit of baiting, her next work (Veritas somethng), it's the very definition of fujbaiting.

From Pandora Hearts, Elliot and Leo are a better example. Leo literally tries to reset the world for his husbando.
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Levi's open worship of Erwin and their overall relationship is pretty passionate/likely beyond military camraderie.

> The enemies turned allies trope
> Levi's disinterest in relationships and general social awkwardness
> Talking about Erwin all the time for no reason
> Implicit trust and the existence of the Ackerbond
> Levi letting him die because of his 'own personal feelings', literally putting his reason for living to rest

There's tons of little things with that relationship, on Levi's part moreso. There's less evidence on Erwin's side, but they're ridiculously close. Practically Shakespearean tragedy shit.
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>>3133245
She was annoying as fuck.
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>>3133253
Erwin was canonically in love with a woman. There are no hints he was even bisexual so no.
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>>3133357
Outside of that he's shown no personal interest in anyone except keeping Levi safe and happy. I ain't saying Erwin's homogay, but I would definitely interpret him as bi.

Levi still worships the ground he walks in and Erwin's cherished that.
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>>3133245
And Vincent for Gil. Entirely one-sided but given how utterly obsessed Vincent is and how much he actively hates women, I'd say he qualifis as 'ambiguous' gay.

He kind of likes Ada but it doesn't seem romantic.
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>>3133402
>He kind of likes Ada but it doesn't seem romantic.
No, he definitely loves Ada. Gil is his brother.
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>>3133443
I'm very aware Gil is his brother, doesn't make Vincent's constant pining over him any less gayer. Hell, at one point Vincent was dating girls only to 'help' Gil, in his very twisted way of 'helping'.
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>>3133446
He still loved Ada, he made clear in the end. He even felt like he wasn't worthy of her.

The author has an habit of baiting, see her next work (Veritas). Two male leads, a lot of BL like situation, but they are both incredibly straight with multiple female love interests.
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>>3133384
>he's shown no personal interest in anyone except keeping Levi safe and happy.
What?
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>>3133443
>>3133446
>>3133443
>>3133402

Everyone in PH was a bit gay. They all almost all end up with girls though, even Reim.

I would say Elliot and Leo were the only ones the author actually may have meant to be more than just friends, given the lack of female love interest and Leo's actions in the end.

Oh also Jack pleased old men for money, I guess.
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What about them?
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>>3133071
> Prompto fans tend to, for lack of a better word, tend to "project" various issues onto him
>write fics and meta that demonize the rest of the party and portray them as uncaring and cruel to Prompto until he shows them just how awesome he really is, or other gratuitously self-indulgent plots

I don't think you realize this, but you also just described a massive amount of Lance (VLD) centric fics. Seems like a much more common thing nowadays if the popularity of this tweet is any indication: https://twitter.com/haarleyquin/status/904383356917469184
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>>3133674
Is it gay if he's an alien fish?
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>>3133687
First time I witnessed this sort of thing was Harry Potter, which at this point is considered an older fanbase.
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Even if these two aren't actually supposed to be gay the movie sure wanted us to think they were.

>>3133692
Back then people preferred to do all their Mary Sueing with OCs or direct self-inserts, but I still remember there being a fuckton of terrible Hermione!Sues that did this.

You'd think her being a super normie who kept saving the day through just cleverness and hard work because she's that awesome would be exactly the kind of thing that's right up their alley but nope, they loved to shove super angsty backstories about her being raped or abused as a kid, or a veela, or Voldemort's daughter, or the heir to a super secret pureblood family with super special powers and betrothed to her true soulmate Harry or Draco.

The only thing that really changed was now it's considered acceptable to do it to the male characters.
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>>3133245
Actually the Alice/Oz ship was pretty thoroughly sunk in the light novels. It just ended in threeway friendship.

Notably, during his hundred year wait for Oz to reincarnate, Gilbert never took a wife or even a lover.

>>3133402
Are we ignoring how much Vincent was stated to sleep around with women and his groping of Lottie's breasts? Vincent is a bisexual manwhore.
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>>3133758
>Actually the Alice/Oz ship was pretty thoroughly sunk in the light novels. It just ended in threeway friendship.
Are the LN canon or what?
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>>3133712
>Even if these two aren't actually supposed to be gay the movie sure wanted us to think they were.

Except the movie clearly framed it more as a creepy child molesting predator preying on a vulnerable young boy. Take off your fujo goggles.
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>>3133975
Just because it's clearly supposed to be an unhealthy relationship doesn't make them seem any less gay. If anything it felt like they were specifically going for the stereotype of the predatory homosexual which is already heavily associated with child molesters. Besides the canon gay thread has the evil sultan from Shokoku no Altair who kept male harem boys and wants to make the main character his sex slave, and the evil prime minister who's shown sleeping with little boys. We're not making distinctions between "good" and "bad" portrayals of gay in these threads.
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>>3133975
>creepy child molesting predator preying on a vulnerable young boy

But there's no need for fujo googles as it's male/male so it does make it gay.
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>>3134000
Luis definitely seem to fit the "evil gay" stereotype, but I'm not sure about Balaban. He's definitely more shades of grey and his relationship with his Yeniceri isn't necessarily predatory.

It kinda feels like the author really liked him, but I dunno, may have been projecting myself.
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>>3134000
>>3134020
Grindelwald is canon gay, but Credence is simply an abused manchild desperate for being treated kindly, rather than gay. If Graves had been female, the situation probably wouldn't be any different.
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>>3133687
It's hilarious just how much Lance and Prompto have in common when it comes to both certain character traits and screechy fangirl behavior.
>>3134087
This is the ambiguously gay/bi thread so Credence fits here just fine. Also was Grindelwald confirmed to actually be gay like Dumbledore was?
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>>3133771
Gilbert is wearing the solo right black leather glove given to him by Oz in the third novel in the last chapter, so it's a safe bet.
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>>3134091
Forgot pic, but I remember seeing a bunch of delusional Klance fans claiming this pic was "proof" Keith and Lance are totally going to get together in canon, just because they were drawn as Noctis and Prompto and they were insisting Noctis and Prompto were also canon fucking. Even though I'm pretty sure no they really weren't unless you have the yaoigoggles on super hard, besides Noctis and Prompto both have canon female love interests and the character Keith is most likely to end up with for real is drawn as Noctis's girlfriend, so if there was a pairing this pic was supposed to be "proving" it would be that one.
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>>3134091
>Grindelwald
He wasn't, so he could be bisexual I guess.
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bump?
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>>3133688
Speaking of ambiguously gay alien fish...
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Speaking of Voltron, there's a chance Keith will turn out to be gay. Between his obsession with Shiro, disinterest in Allura, and the Studio Mir artists drawing this on their whiteboard. It probably won't ever be explicit, but implied maybe.
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>>3137664
It won't, writers already said it. There will be no romance and the show it's aimed at young boys.

Korra got away with it because 1) ending 2) broader audience 3) lesbians.
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>>3131004
I would like to think they are gay but deep down I feel like Dio doesn't have a sense of personal space and that's why he is so touchy/grabby. >>3131195
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>>3137679
>writers already said it. There will be no romance
I don't expect canon gay Keith either but sauce on that?
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I'm still not sure if they ever confirmed anything about their relationship, it's been such a long time since I've read it.
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Discord address:
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>>3129943
What did he mean by this
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>>3137651
Who's that?
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>>3138574
Toriyama isn't ambiguous, he had sex with his boss all through the season.

I do agree that scene is ambiguous though, the framing is very erotic and we know Ichise lets anyone use his body as he fits.
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Dunno if the manga went anywhere with the homo.
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>>3138585
Blaytz from the Voltron reboot. There's a scene where he flirts with a male servant.
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>>3129943
These two. Also the titular character as well.
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>>3129943
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Does he fit?
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>Issei's feelings are purely as male friends. The bonds between men are STRONGEST!
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These fuckers
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>>3142107
Sauce?
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>>3138592
Also he got railed in the ass by his dad.
Ichise's tie falling to the floor was definitely ambiguous.
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>>3142146
Appmon. They basically do EVERYTHING but say in plain text "they gay".
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>>3133674
who are they?
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>>3142214
Yuki and Haru from Tsuritama
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he didnt got mad when shion kissed him, and kissed him volumes after... well, not that he has an interest in man or anything, but dude, he acts so gay in the last 4 volumes
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>>3142472
>No.6
>Ambiguous
What?
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>>3142472
>Gaaaaaaay :D

Akira from HikaGo and his colorful suits.
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>>3142555
Hikaru seemed pretty gay himself
>Touya, I wanted you to look towards me instead of Sai. Even though that's impossible.
>I thought that I'd get closer to Touya if I just kept playing Go
>Touya... it's a path that leads to you

Ishida from Bleach. I don't want to be stereotypical cause he sews clothes and all but there were vibes.

Also Oga from Beelzebub. He didn't seem to be attracted to girls, the whole number/allegiance thing with brides and vows and Furuichi turning out to have a Zero crest has to mean something. And that epilogue - Beel saying 'Furuchin' (his second word, you'd think he'd say Hilda or mom instead but nah) meaning that Oga was constantly talking about Furuichi.
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>>3138807
That was pretty homo if you ask me
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>>3142411
thank you anon
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>>3142107
Oh yes.
Implied canon gay end.
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>>3143189
>tfw you get to make the robobody for your own husbando
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>>3143310
>you can make his dick any way you want
>you can make him as muscular as you want

Sounds perfect. I want a robot husbando now.
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>>3131204
There's a thin line between love and hate anon ;)
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There's more to prove his gayness than to disprove.
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Well, ambiguous bi, even if Lion is pretty much confirmed to be a boy
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>>3142555
Akira's impassioned yearning and obsessive rage, Hikaru's life-altering admiration and desire to become what he thinks Akira deserves, and, between the two of them, their eternal fixation complete with shoujo manga tier confessions and misunderstandings, the attention-seeking, the manic energy, the jealousy others have toward their rivalry... all come together to make the both of them seem pretty gay, or at least each-other-sexual.
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>>3143189
I'm not even sure you can call this ambigous, is 99% gay. The only reason the writers didn't have them confess and kiss is because execs probably.
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>>3131025
The game makes it very difficult to think otherwise.
>>3131090
I remember him saying "More than anything I want to stay with you, Dark Blue" in the Japanese version of that scene.
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>>3142390

What manga is this?
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>>3151376
https://twitter.com/cloudnoa/status/916467625386901505
Yep.
This was one of the members of the staff, CGI. She jokes about how Ai's VA was upset that Yuujin replaced her character as the love interest.
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>>3142390
Sauce me my dude.
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>>3152044
Altair.
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Anyone in A3 would count especially Banri and Tasuku but this boy here is the worst offender.
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>>3133674
Haru maybe, but he's also a retarded alien fish, so he probably doesn't even understand the concept of gender.

Yuki definitely not, he hasn't shown even the slightest hint of interest in any of the other guys.
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i don't read the manga because midorikawa's art is bad but tanuma has got to be gay for natsume at least a little bit. natsume himself i can easily see as pretty much anything though.
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>>3131425
>because he killed the most popular fujo pairing
He killed Ereri?
>>3137679
>There will be no romance
Thank god if true. Do you have source on this though?
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>>3152224
They never said that, Lance is definitely in love with Allura as opposed to just a crush on her and on top of that they're implying Lance will end up with someone female (which triggers the crazy Klance fans). It's true that romance has never been a really big part of this show at least, but nothing official ever said about it.
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>>3152236
>ambiguously gay
>ambiguously
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>>3152217
>Yuki definitely not, he hasn't shown even the slightest hint of interest in any of the other guys.
None of the girls either, though.
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>>3152217
Yuki's very sweet with Haru, and when he's not it's a source of anguish for both Haru and himself, so it's easy to slip on some goggles. Kate telling Yuki she thought he needed "a flower" over a bunch of cuts of Haru being endearing was kind of a moment.

>>3152223
Tanuma unironically comes off as a pining gay best friend to me.
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>>3131200
Jesus, don't say that word like it means nothing.
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>>3148270
What is this from?
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>>3152655
Umineko I think
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>>3133924
>just finished
>come to /cm/ for anything
>not disappointed
I toned down the rose tint of my shipping glasses and some moments still had me wondering if the series would take a bold left turn. I mean, it still did, but in a way that went with the rest of the series.

It's easy fujo bait, but just modest enough to be completely innocent and you have to really want it to be there.
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I know tohru was pining after the nurse but at least Natsuno had zero interest in anyone but him until justice/revenge became his main focus. putting on some goggles, tohru being a little bitch was good angst if you imagined him pining after natsuno the whole time instead.

Any newish series anyone recommends with ambiguously gay characters? (or better yet something where its more than ambiguous) I haven't been keeping up with anime lately.
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>>3131577
Who the hell is that and what's wrong with his hair?
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>>3131577
Yugioh stopped being gay after 5ds. Yuma was straight, stop deluding yourself.
Should have posted Judai instead.
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>>3153556
>Any newish series anyone recommends with ambiguously gay characters? (or better yet something where its more than ambiguous) I haven't been keeping up with anime lately.
>>3142107
>>3142152
>>3143189
>>3151376
>>3152010
It doesn't get really gay until episode 27, but oh boy after that it pretty much just focuses on their relationship for the next 25 episodes.
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>>3154331
>>Any newish series anyone recommends with ambiguously gay characters? (or better yet something where its more than ambiguous) I haven't been keeping up with anime lately.
Was this a question?

Probably Vatican no Kiseki, but it's a "So bad it's so good" kind. Last episode is super homo in particular.
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>>3154331
Seeing these two in the ambiguous thread kinda make me mad, because the authors' intention are pretty clear, but in this shitty world you can't have explicit gay in chinese children cartoon, especially the two boys protagonist.
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>>3154342
People are just hesitant to call them canon, we have had other shows like Samurai Flamenco only to have the staff shit on fans.
I think for now it is safe to call them canon, most of the fandom, gay or straight, agree.
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>>3154350
oh what the hell did staff do with samurai flamenco? I watched that and heard it was pretty solid because it had that like...card with them getting 'married' on it? did staff backpedal really fast on that shit?

At least the tiger and bunny people made it really gay and said 'imagine their relationship how you want'
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>>3155142
The SF creators were firmly anti-gay since day 1, to the point the director got all mad when the early screening reactions invoked Tiger & Bunny comparisons. After the show finished airing, both he and the scriptwriter had a very condescending interview insisting there was nothing "homo" about it. From the previous thread:
>Q: Before the show aired, director Oomori outright said that "it's not a homo anime", right? (laugh)
>Oomori: There was nothing homo about his "marriage" offer. He's just a character so extreme about justice that he'd say something like that.
>Q: Those two were still together later, though.
>Kurata: Yes, but absolutely nothing has changed. Goto's mental issues are still there, (...)
>TL comment: And so on. The interview is actually borderline rude, because the "homo" comments is something you'd expect to see on 2ch and its ilk. Formal interviews generally put it more tactfully.
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>>3155146
So fucking dumb. This is why SF was a flop. Homophobes are no longer being tolerated by fans.
At least Appmon is doing great and fans are supporting it and are very supportive of the resident gay couple.
Appmon in just a week has gone from #33 on this poll to #19.

https://best100.animefestival.jp
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>>3155149
To be fair, SF was a flop all along. The staff reactions just made them look like retards to boot.
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>>3155155
>The staff reactions just made them look like retards to boot.
They could have still try to milk the fujos.
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>>3134091
>so Credence fits here just fine
>new poster for the sequel shows him sitting with a woman draped on him

Better prepare to get BTFO anon.
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>>3155155
Yeah, the mc having a "girlfriend" and manglobe's brand of QUALITY killed it day one.
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>>3155146
SF feels like the work of a schizo, it has one the most natural gay romances of all the time, it's basically a story about a guy who slowly fall in love with his best friend, it has all the tropes of the genre (People mistaking them for a couple, people commenting they are perfect for each other), but it's actually... a straight friendship that doesn't go anywhere, because the character is still fucked up in the end too.
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>>3155176
He could ambiguously bi. The reason he still belongs is whether he likes pussy or not his and Grindelwald's relationship has abusive romance undertones and both are dudes.
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>>3131667
I was going to debate this but then I went into the /snk/ thread currently on /a/ and saw a slimy man with a snail shell over his dick and I don't really want to know anything anymore.
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>>3155240
>he thinks that's weird
normies were a mistake
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>>3155149
>At least Appmon is doing great and fans are supporting it and are very supportive of the resident gay couple.
Have the directors said anything about? I dread a no homo in some years, because even if the writers obviously intended one thing, all you need is one dickhead to change things years later (See Fire Emblem)
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>>3155309
>See Fire Emblem
Gonna need an explanation because I'm an Awakening pleb.
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>>3155313
Never heard of Ike/Soren?
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>>3155315
I have not. But I did hear the older fire emblems weren't gender restricted for romance.
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>>3139003
>ambigous
>literally calls Tweek 'babe' and 'honey'
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>>3155309
No but considering we have one staff member that likes the pairing, and the demographics were clearly fujo, it would be suicide to say otherwise. Appmon is supposed to be the start of a subfranchise, pissing off the consumer base is not something Bandai wants.
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>>3155414
>pissing off the consumer base is not something Bandai wants.
Tales of went in the perfect direction.
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>>3155475
>Tales of Xilia
Not a fujo game. Appmon was a fujo show.
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>>3155478
test
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>>3155478
:X
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>>3155400
but they literally tried to make people stop shipping them
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>>3155340
Older FE didn't have romance for the player, Ike was a buff warrior with zero interest in women (He doesn't even get a shipping scene with Elincia, that resident Fire Emblem Princess, their relationship is completely platonic and she can only marry some other dude) and a very close "friendship" with Soren.

Soren is very devoted to him, he calls his name if he dies in battle. Ike only has 3 endings, and both are with dudes (Ranulf and Soren). There is a scene in RD with Ike and Soren in which they embrace called "as the moment where their two hearts become one". Basically anyone could see there was something more going on.

10 years later Nintendo releases Awakening with Priam, Ike's descendant so everyone started to claim he was straight.


>>3155414
I don't disagree with this, it's just that you don't know when in some years some shithead who couldn't see the homo or hated it will write a sequel in which Haru is married to Ai. The problem is that as long the writers don't say "they gay" and make them kiss on screen, someone will always feel like the gay doesn't exist.
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>>3155516
The difference is that FE isn't solely supported by fujos. At this moment Appmon is being carried by them and then followed by kids.

The staff of Appmon, the top brass, all stated that Haru was supposed to be a different sort of protagonist from all the others in the franchise, this includes Takato who was massively in love with Juri at the age of 10. So I think his deeper bond between Yuujin isn't going away. I think you might be a little paranoid.
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>>3155537
>I think you might be a little paranoid.
No, I've been disappointed too many times in my life.

Also my point was that often author's intentions are ignore by some other people.
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>>3155538
Well here's the thing about the staff of the Digimon anime, it's nepotistic as fuck. Many of the people who worked on Appmon have been there since Adventure and anyone new was picked by former staff. I think this is one time you might not have to worry.
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>>3155537
Oh and if we don't get supplemental material in 15 years, like Tamers, they will probably bring back the old staff, which is what is happening with Tamers. Appmon as popular as it is, will never get the Tri treatment. So a sudden love interest like Meiko isn't in the books for Haru.
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>>3155478
I meant it as a direct response to anon's post about Bandai. In fact it doesn't have to be a fujo game in the first place, because the pandering is still there. The old school Tales route of giving every guy a female love interest has fizzled out and gets more vague with every game. Everyone just kind of lingers on being ambiguously bi or outright unclear. Except Laphicet. That kids wants the V.elvet bad.

I've yet to finish Bears so my view is subject to change, but Eizen and Roku are in that unclear territory. Neither take interest in Velvet thus far, and on the subject of women their response boils down to "meh."
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>>3155552
Berseria is very asexual in general. Probably the straightest Tales of to date after Zestiria/Xillia/Xillia2 and Grace F.
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>>3155516
Thanks for the explanation. I always saw Nintendo as the Disney of video games but even Disney had a lesbian couple with a kid on one of their shows. I do hope if a new, original FE comes out, that there will be more than 1 homo option.

[spoiler]tfw spoiler tags dont work on /cm/ but I also hope it's not a buy the same game twice fiasco like Fates [/spoiler]
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>>3138593
What's this from?
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>>3155762
Miyuki Abe's Hakkenden anime adaptation
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>>3155762
>>3138593
Hakkenden. It doesn't belong here since it runs in a shounen ai magazine.
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>>3155516
Awakening was going to be the swan song of the franchise, so they had to throw in some kind of reference to the Tellius games, this time in the form of Priam. Thanks to Outrealms, “canon” is basically whatever you want it to be since there’s an alternate timeline for every possibility.
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IS didn't forget about Soren. He got this official gag comic for FEH. Ike/Soren were the 20th most popular units paired up with Ally Support too so they know the players like the two of them together.
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>>3155767
>>3155776
Thank you anons
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>>3155516
That's because Ike's original FE game was a bomb. It sold terribly in Japan.
Nintendo didn't a fuck about a small but loyal fujo fanbase.

Appmon did by all measures, pretty good. Helped in large part by its older female fanbase.
So no it's not a good comparison.
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>>3154331
I just picked this up because of this thread and was wondering when the gay kicked in. Thus far it has just been Haru crushing on Ai, though, but it's still very early days.
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>>3156701
He stops crushing on her by episode 13.
Episode 18 gives you some hints but it is episode 27 and 28 that really turn up the gay. These are also the episode where Yuujin joins the main cast.
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>>3155516
>Implying Priam isn't Mist's descendant

o m8 i am laffin

Also, Ike and Soren have the same critical hit line in Heroes. That's kinda gay if you ask me.
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>>3156709
Great, thanks for the timeline. I'm still on episode 7 so I've got a long way to go. Thus far it's been cute and fun.

I was wondering about Yuujin as he's been conspicuously absent or barely on-screen.
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>>3156709
>He stops crushing on her by episode 13.
It's actually episode 18, but the rest is correct.


>>3156794
You can enjoy best boy Rei in the meanwhile.
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>>3132033
Is this a new chapter? Mfg they're canon
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>>3156990
It's an old one, but it still bait. I doubt it will ever go somewhere, but at this point I don't even care.
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>>3152236
nah, you got it backwards

Griffith is ambiguously straight
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Genos is gay for Saitama because I said so.
Source is me. Ippo from Hajime no Ippo is gay for his rival, and his opponents are gay for him. Source is also me. Axel is gay for Roxas, I'am also the source of this.
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>>3157081
You are a dumb faggot, because I said so.
Source is me.
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>>3157082
Heresay.
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Mikaela Hyakuya and Yuu Hyakuya. They are just so bloody cute together, gods I think I just got another cavity from them.
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>>3133674
No, they are friends.
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>>3134087
Grindelwald is not gay, what the fuck are you talking about? Dumbledore is gay, not him.
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>>3157109
I remember the delicious, delicious salt when this episode aired. I only had a vague idea of what I was getting into but back in Season 1, the opening was homo enough with the forehead touch looking almost like a kiss a split second earlier. Anons kept trying to push Shinoa/Yuu so hard, and this happened.
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>>3157283
Its even better in the manga. THEY HOLD HANDS AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>3157353
That scene isn't better in the manga. It's way gayer in the anime.
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Suffice to say, after the new DLC I think he definitely earned his spot in this thread.
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>>3158763
>this world means nothing to me if he's not in it
>your beloved Noctis
Yeah. The only thing ambiguous here is whether you still count as gay if the only person you ever loved just happened to be a guy.
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>>3158763
I'm sorry Squenix, but if that mention of Ignis being like a brother to Noctis was supposed to be your play at no-homoing him, all it does is make it Ignis look like he has a thing for incest play.
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>>3158775
To be fair, that's just what Regis wanted them to be. He couldn't have known their relationship would evolve the way it did.
>hope your Messiah son would have good friends that will support him while he's saving the world
>one guy falls in love, completely loses his shit and nearly dooms the world
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>>3145755
Would like to hear your points, though. Don't be a tease.
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>>3158763
I think he's only interested in Noctis, but at the same time after Noctis's death I could see him having a one night stand with someone who resembles Noctis. Ignis to me isn't interested in noone who isn't Noctis. He's Noctis-sexual.
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>>3145755
Either he's gay or just sexually stunted.

He's a product of Rape. His mother being part of a clan of assassin's. His father being the damn Batman. Both of which were at war with each other. Bruce didn't even learn about Damian till he was the age is currently is.
>Broken Family without a male figure in his life.
>Also I don't think the Al Guhls gave Damian a Sex talk.

Bruce Wayne in general is already a mess when it comes to Family issues, so he's probably not the best at being what one would call "Fatherly" rather he gives off a Stern distance.
>Dad with Daddy issues has kid with Daddy issues

Hes Never shown even a small romantic interest in any female from what I've read so far. Nor do I believe he'd even know how to "talk to a girl".

And I mean the Super Sons comics. That alone dude.
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>>3138553
invite expired, post a new one?
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>>3158781
>one guy falls in love, completely loses his shit and nearly dooms the world
According to some interpretations of the alternate ending he actually did. Fucking whoops. Or at the very least, he kicked the can down the line so some other poor schmuck to deal with. Now that's dedication.
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>>3159588
True, though that interpretation of the ending is unlikely to be right given Noctis' personality. This is the guy who has consistently refused to turn back to save himself and whose reaction to the news that he's being hunted was to march to the nearest enemy stronghold and nuke it ("They want the Lucian King? I'll give them more than they can handle.")

Still, Ignis' "fuck everything and everyone, I just want to save him" is some serious desperation. Hell, in the end he pretty much agreed with Ardyn.
>What good is the world if it only lets you down?
The guy went full AI YO.
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>>3158849
Sure looks like it. Noctis is canonically the only thing that truly matters to him. No Noctis = Iggy is dead inside.
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>>3158775
>>3158781
>>3158770
Sadly FFXV is too mainstream for me to even consider that a character may be implied to be actually ambious.
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>>3160059
I mean, all this is literal text, not even subtext. The characters openly spell it out, no implications needed.
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>>3160062
Anon,what it boils down to is that Ignis is simply just heavily devoted to Noctis. That's not being gay.

He's on the same level as Keith's devotion to Shiro from Voltron.
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>>3155516
Am I dumb for somehow never realizing Priam's existence meant Ike fucked a girl?
Still doesn't really bother me though. It's dumb yes but it doesn't invalidate the relationship between Ike and Soren. And it's not like love is eternal.
Moreover he could descend from a magic clone baby Soren made. That's the kind of Morgan la Fay shit that would totally fit his yandereish character.
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>>3160088
Both are very devoted, but gay or not I'd say Ignis is still way more intense than Keith. If we had to compare Ignis to someone from Voltron, I'd say he's more like young Zarkon, whose lack of shits given for anyone other than Honerva really did fuck the universe over for millennia, and who I think the show ultimately wants Keith to steer away from.
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>>3160120
Devotion is also just one part of the story; Noctis is also his only true source of comfort (or at least the only one he wants), as Ardyn gleefully points out.
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>>3160129
I can't say I can attest to the exact intentions and knowledge of the localizers when they chose to write it that way, but depending on the language setting his last words can be "I don't want to die alone" or "I don't want to die". The "I don't want to die without him" version is specific to the English version.
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>>3160138
In the base game he says "Noct..." if KO'd in battle, so that part fits. You've also got Ardyn reassuring him that at least he won't be alone in his final moments because his "beloved Noctis" is coming. Phrasing aside, it's telling that he mentions Noctis only.
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>>3160129
>>3160120
>>3160088
There is an interesting twist to that devotion - he's acting against Noctis' wishes, not in accordance with them. In both cases when he has to choose whether he'd let him go or not, the question is there because the implications of Noctis' duty and fate have become unbearable for Ignis personally.
Due to Noctis' unique position, devotion to Noctis the King of Light means failing Noctis the person and vice versa. Problem is, Noctis is and has always been both; he can't stop being either of them. All the people who loved him - Regis, Luna, Gladio & Prompto - ultimately chose the King. It hurt, but they got over it and chose the greater good. Noctis himself did the same. Ignis, however, couldn't take that, so he chose Noctis the person. It was a 100% emotional decision that was both extremely selfish and selfless at the same time, to the point it was unthinkable to the rest of the cast.
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>>3160120
Ignis reminds me of Oerba Yun Fang from XIII, who I don't know if there was any official word on but generally people agree on was in love with Vanille. Also Caius, Squall, and Tidus, which is funny because 2.5 of those couples explicitly had that kind of relationship.

It really does seem like one of those cases where the writers have plausible deniability and a convenient alternate explanation or intention (the "brother" line), but there's so much material there that you don't need shipper goggles to come away thinking he's in love with Noctis or something like it, given all the people I've seen who don't just interpret it that way but are also vocally upset by it and call it pandery, disturbing, or wrong.

If they truly intended Ignis's devotion to be motivated purely by friendship/duty, then they already cocked up that part from the beginning since Brotherhood, Duscae, and the main game make it clear Ignis's greatest joy and motivation in life is making Noctis happy. Whatever it is, it's a lot more than just a job taken extremely seriously. And if he is supposed to come off as a scarily protective big brother, that's perfectly valid too, given his parallels with Ravus. But speaking from personal experience, while there's some of that "who cares about the rest of the world" selfishness with very close siblings, we're not usually so clingy or singularly fixated on each other the way Ignis gets over Noctis. There also isn't any indication Ignis came from a particularly broken family or serious indoctrination like some people suggest to cause him to latch onto Noctis for that kind of reason either.
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>>3158763
Yeah pretty much. What a sorry sack of shit.
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>>3160388
>that pic
Top kek. Iggy really took the whole "protect this smile" meme seriously.

Jokes aside, they share a very affectionate relationship overall and the game goes out of its way to show it. It's particularly obvious in in-game photos, where Ignis (whom Prompto and Gladio sometimes call stuffy and humorless) is all smiles every time he and Noctis are alone together. His existence just makes him happy and gives him a meaning and purpose.
The Alternate ending also follows in that direction. Although the group goes to the last confrontation together, when all is said and done and things are mostly back to normal, it's just Noctis and Ignis again. The others have other places to be and their own lives to live, but for Ignis, Noctis is "home", just like Vanille was for Fang.

And yeah, the series has something of a tradition with this kind of passionate, potentially world-destroying relationships, with Squall, Fang and Caius being the biggest examples (Tidus was a bit too dumb to really understand the full consequences of his "I want it all" declaration at the time). Even the spin-offs join the fun, with Machina and Rem from Type-0 being another example.
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>>3160407
Sorry for intruding on the conversation you're having but I just want to say, Episode Ignis was great for all the reasons you both listed, and for the fact it gave Iggy some huge character development in terms of motivation...and flaws. But in a way, I feel it also made his character smaller. Not in terms of importance, but his scope of his own worldview and what he exists for--as defined by himself, not the story. Which is Noctis. Yet it kind of works. Characters who exist solely to love another character tend to fall extremely flat and are often quite boring to me at least, but for Ignis it works, because he already had personality and quirks about him beforehand, though not much in the way of flaws (not saying he's a Stu, just underdeveloped prior to EI), but EI built upon his flaws and strengths and made his character simultaneously smaller and bigger. More fleshed out, and more simple. It's a fascinating duality and I think it worked very well.

It was also extremely fucking gay. I didn't ship Ignis and Noctis before, but I guess I have to now, because my primary ship (Prompto and Ignis) got completely blown out of the water. (Not that it had that much basis, considering Ignis's less than favorable thoughts about him, but you know how it is.) RIP all Ignis-related ships not involving Noctis, 2006 - 2017.
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>>3141086
is this takumi? for what I remember he was a extreme tsun for souma
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I like think that he got a huge crush for Twelve and feel betrayed when the other useless bitch met him and they start to have a more close relationship. He seemed to be very depressed about it along all the show
Also it's pretty evident that he doesn't correspond the feelings of Five
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He's literally the embodiment of ambiguous homosexuality, for shame /cm/
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>>3160462
As for specific reasons:
>Has never dated despite having been asked out countless times by women
>Says he has zero attraction to Ann as a member of the opposite sex
>Invites MC to a lover's spot
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>>3160462
>>3160464
>neoPersona
>allowing any gay that isn't gay-bashing
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>>3160462
>>3160464
Akechi felt like the yaoi bait character to me, yusuke was just an asshole desu senpais, but if you prefer him then that's that.

It's shame Shinya wasn't a high schooler, or otherwise I'd be all over the Shinya/Akira ship.
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>>3160164
>>3160388
I'm not actually that familiar with this game beyond the jokes about the prettyboy cast, but those combined with reading this reminds me of the situation with Tieria in Gundam 00. Especially if we're talking about the fujobait going so deep it's not longer just fanservice but a major plot point.
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>>3162257
It's one hell of a plot point: depending on the interpretation, the homolust in question has either rewritten their Holy Scripture or doomed the entire world (at least in one timeline). The closest animu comparison is probably FSN's Heaven's Feel route, complete with the implications that you have to reject your ideals (duty and standard morality) to go through with it.
A major theme of the game is how much you are willing to sacrifice to protect something bigger than you. In this one case, however, the stakes get reversed: one person ends up being more valuable than the entire world.
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>>3162316
Every EMIYA is also someone else's Sakura.
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I can't remember if they ever indicated him actually fucking guys but he may as well have
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gay as hell
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>>3138106
>literal shounen-ai.
>ambiguous
O-ok
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>>3165038
This thread is weird. Half of it is "well, I just think he fits" while the other half is """ambiguous""" even though they loudly profess their undying love for another dude.
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>>3165045
Yeah I guess one part is wearing their fujo googles to canonise their fav pairings and the other part is so clinical and bitter that even actual shounen-ai posted in a BL magazine seems ambiguous to them.
Weird thread indeed.
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>>3130275
Caina was gay in the original japanese take. Then when they transferred to English sales, they swapped genders - which was totally lame and had removed the depth that.
Brad as gay though? There was nothing that would suggest he was or wasn't so I dunno. Him and Vinsfeld and Billy were war buds, but doubtful they had anything romantic.
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>always stalking Kiryu, will even crossdress and dance on stripper pole for him
>really turned on by fighting people
>really close to Saejima even for sworn brothers
>a little too excited about kissing and getting a blowjob from Daigo
>Nishitani hits on him and instead of being creeped out by it he considers him a friend and inspiration
Majima probably does like dick on some level.
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>>3160118
I think it just a proof of priorities shifting, the old writers clearly intended for Ike/Soren to be something more than friendship, but new friends never gave it a fuck.
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>>3160462
>>3160464
He's more autistic than anything. Yosuke and Kanji fit more, Yosuke feels like a dude in the closet and Kanji a confused bi dude.
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>>3165048
Last time I saw a not-ambigious gay character thread most people just ended up fighting over whether they're gay or not so this might be preferable.
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He's described to be in love with Kotetsu in multiple interviews with the creators, does he count?
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>>3166532
He's had hordes of women literally climbing all over him and his only reaction was a mild distaste over them messing up his clothes. The guy is queer as a two dollar bill.
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>>3131133
I have been playing this recently and was surprised at how homosexual/bi the guys felt due to those reasons. Machias and Jusis are the epitome of "just fuck already". I've heard Rean is pretty gay for Crow, too, but I haven't gotten far enough yet.
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>>3131004
It's true that Dio has no notion of personal space- at least in the first season- but I don't recall his ever getting touchy feely with any of the girls.
Lavy also acts like she's jealous of Dio.

And then there is that gay mechanic who has this knowing smile when Dio's antics around Claus are involved.
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>>3166530
That happens regardless
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>>3166538
Yeah, Falcom was trying very hard with Jusis/Machias fujo pandering.
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>>3166552
Ayy. Gotta love the mental gymnastics when it comes to same sex relationships.
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>>3166552
Was this a forum populated by Vic Mignogna and socket puppet accounts?
That reminds me, he needs to be the dub VA for Toya.
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It's not ambiguous, he's pretty fuckin gay honestly

In all seriousness the Love Hotel scene, basically stealing Shuichi from Kaito, and he literally calls Shuichi "my Beloved Shuichi" in the Japanese
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>>3166565
It's just ANN. You don't need to look far to find the whole #nohomo culture.
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>>3129943
The son in this movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44M1j3a3RRQ

He never explicitly states it, but his relationship with his friend is full of innuendo and his "Pug" vest screams it.
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So people mentioned Noctis earlier. After Episode Ignis I definitely believe he could be bi now and not just in the shipping goggles way. I know the English localization takes lots of liberties and he could mean like his dad, but Noctis does admit he actual "l" word loves Ignis. He also says Ignis is always in his heart, he knows about and is surprisingly OK with Ignis being so obsessed with him that he'd follow him to the grave, all the handholding motifs, he gives him these tender looks that Ignis can't even see, so it's sincere and not just his way of comforting him or putting on a strong face for him. He's also very touchy with him, which could just be familial or because he's blind, but I'm sure counts for something.

Noctis loves Luna, officially. It's not well written, I don't know if the expansion will help, but it is what it is. And I agree playing the closeted card is cheap shipper logic. But it really feels like they were intimating that he and Ignis have a more-than-brotherly bond together, maybe so he wouldn't be lonely in the alternate ending, since Luna's still dead but now he isn't, and Iris is forever sisterzoned. There's probably more hints in the main game I haven't noticed. People already made a case here for Ignis being as blatantly gay as Fang.

It's funny. Dudes yell all the time about how "gay" all the male FF leads are, and they're all over older Noctis because for once it's a guy who looks like a manly man and not a faggot hurdur. Yet out of all of them, at the point in his life where he's the least effeminate looking, he's probably the one who has the most real claim to being in love with another man. Not even superficial things like aesthetics or jokes or homoerotic innuendos. It's definitely more than Bartz (that Faris thing just makes him look straighter IMO), more than Cloud, more than Squall, more than even Cecil and his tension with Kain. Greatest love story indeed, these Fei/Elly motherfuckers.
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>>3166724
>t's definitely more than Bartz (that Faris thing just makes him look straighter IMO)
How? Anyway the shota from FF3 DS remake is probably the gayest FF lead.
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>>3166724
>He's also very touchy with him, which could just be familial or because he's blind, but I'm sure counts for something.
These two have always been touchy-feely.
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All main characters of Free are faggots. Whether you wanna see that in a shippy way or not doesn't matter, honestly.
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>>3166726
If traps are gay are reverse traps anti-gay?




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