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Did Sabrina Cotugno really Zuke this show?
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>>101085735
>Sabrina Cotugno

No, she Zuked that Star vs. the evil jews show.
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>>101085767
But she took off all mentions of directing on the Owl House recently, and that corroborates a rumour that she zuked it so hard they had to start over from scratch with a new team and delay the show for another year.
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>>101085735
what happened?
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>>101085961
The show got delayed for another year, and they're replacing the staff with new hires.

There's a rumour going around that someone pulled a zuke, tried to push a lesbian pedo ship, and they ended up scrapping almost everything they had because turns out you can't show lesbian pedo ships on disney.
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>>101085985

Dinsey ONLY shows Big black man X white boy relationships, that's the rule numbero one.
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>>101085985
well, i never expected that...
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>>101085735
I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to fight for the MC to have a same sex love interest but with another student, not with the witch.
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>>101085835
Butterface and shes sucking in her gut
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The show was going to be much more mature than we expected it to be.
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>>101086133
her face is alright.
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>>101086133
>sucking in her gut
That just gets me harder, desu
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>>101086177

Maybe if she lost the problem glasses and all those weird spots on her face.
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>>101086092
It'd still be underaged which Disney would have a problem with

Steven Universe used the good ol' lolicon arguement of "t-they're actually thousands of years old" to get away with Garnet
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>>101086203
are these glasses less problematic?
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>>101085835
Did anyone ever get on the dub's case for making the gorilla sound like a sassy black womyn?
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>>101086228

Garnet is also over 6 feet tall and has wide hips, so she is noticeably adult looking.
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>>101086246
I think he means Ruby and Sapphire.
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>>101085835
She looks like her pussy smells fucking awful.
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>>101086301
What would it smell like?
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>>101086172
Why is Eda’s capture valued so high?
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>>101086372
child abuse is a serious crime
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>>101086399
What's wrong with /ll/? Eda would be much better first lover for Luz than any boy. Eda would be gentle and caring. She could teach Luz a lot about life and relationship. Boys are dumb, insensitive, selfish, irresponsible and don't know what they want. They will definitely let Luz down. Marco from Star vs. is just a typical example.
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>>101086228
"It'd still be underaged which Disney would have a problem with"

The entirety of Star Vs is high school romances.
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>>101087093
Not entirety. Marco is 30yo.
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>>101085961
Apparently Sabrina was pushing hard to ship the two leads to include "positive LGBT representation" in the show until the executives showed up and said "yo you stupid bitch, that's literally canon pedophilia"
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>>101087128
So /ll/ would be okay if the witch just gave herself a little girl’s body?
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>>101086795
>Eda would be gentle and caring.
BOOOOOOOOOOOORING!
Luz needs hard dickings.
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>>101085735
>Owl house
>Owl lady
>the show’s cute funny animal mascot is a cubone rip-off
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>>101087345
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>>101087345
When will Eda get FRANK'd for her crimes?
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>>101087345
#LuzToo
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>>101085985
Its not a rumor, its one anon trying out some b8 and 50 anons pretending its real/trying to force a meme because they're bored
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>>101085835
T. Blandwhale tumblrina
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>>101086332
milk and salted pennies
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>>101087500
We all know that, but let us have our fun. The show doesnt come out for 2 years, we need something to pass the time
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Well the MC's name is almost lez
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>>101087318
>>101087290
kawaii
>>101087345
don't lewd my dotter
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>>101085735
>>101085847
I can believe anything of her tbqh, she seems to have the potential for meltdowns
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>>101085847
>>101085835
I want to see porn of these two, with Dana fucking her with a strap as revenge for ruining her show
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>>101087640
Why is Dana's avatar so perfect?
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>>101085985
>someone pulled a zuke, tried to push a lesbian pedo ship
"someone"
>>101087196
Yea it really does sound like her.
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>>101086233
>black rims
>on top of large lenses
No, that's even more problematic
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bHimOJb-Xw
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>>101087684
The meme queen is supreme, let out a scream
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>>101087278
These sound like good things to me
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>>101086795
>Boys don't know what they want.
Bizarro world, ladies and gents.
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>>101086244
I've seen it on Twitter, also people saying if you're not black you're not allowed to draw humanized art of her being black.
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Everyone's counting on me,
to save the Disney channel from obscurity
I have to study for a witch test
I work hard to support them and always try my best
It's so much fun to help out in the dormitory
and be used as propaganda for sabrina's lgbt
I want to do something for you Eda-san said
I gasp and said what are we gonna do on the bed, oh no, oh no.
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what the fuck is Zuking?
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>>101088032
there was this storyboarder on Steven Universe refered to as Zuke who was also active on tumblr. Through stupid posts we know she wanted to enforce Lapis and PEridot as a ship a lot in the show itself, but she was basically being dicked down by Sugar down the line beause she tried so hard to the point someone said "shut up"
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>>101088032
She's the reason Peridot got written out of the show
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>>101087196
>positive lgbt representation
So a character goes to Jesus camp to pray away the gay?
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>>101088139
Kek
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>>101085847
I don't understand why cartoons have a problem with this. Don't they have a showrunner and a series bible to prevent the show from turning into every staff writer's own fan fiction? Especially if the show has a larger story arc, or do they really not plan things out?
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>>101089000
>Don't they have a showrunner and a series bible to prevent the show from turning into every staff writer's own fan fiction?
Yes but the current industry is very informal and unprofessional about show integrity and production, so deviation is very common.
> Especially if the show has a larger story arc, or do they really not plan things out?
They don't plan it out and even if they do, executive meddling or office drama can occur.
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>>101089000
From what I've seen for shows being headed by this specific graduating class of 20XX from CalArts, they are very inclusive with their story planning, utilizing sticky notes or flash cards on a wall to plot a season out, with several individuals, even non-writers, voicing their opinion on what happens. And then boarding happens, again with almost everyone's feelings included.

Only Nefcy seems to be the one using a Bible, and she has to fight tooth and nail against her team trying to corrupt her story.
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>>101089000
> do they really not plan things out?
Pretty much, yeah. Basically no western cartoons that have been lucky enough to be produced have been mapped out beforehand with a beginning, middle, and end prior to going into production. I’m sure there are creators out there who have such ideas they WANT to see made, it just never happens and for some reason we always get improvisers. You’d think people who manage to work their way that far up the chain would have a fully formed vision but it turns out that’s incredibly rare.
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>>101089049
Do you work on these shows, are is this second hand assumptions? If you do, give us examples. Give us some dirt.

It's difficult to believe this can happen when these things cost ten million+ to pump out. Scrapping work and delaying a year costs a lot of money. How can heads not roll for such foolish behavior?
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>>101089139
> How can heads not roll for such foolish behavior?
Well, it’s looking like Cotungo’s did.
As for the money question, it’s Disney. If it were Nick this show definitely would have gotten scrapped (though it never would have been greenlit in the first place due to their aversion to any idea with a tiny bit of ambition) but the Mouse is chasing the prolonged cash flow and audience expansion that another Gravity Falls would bring to the table and they have more than enough money to do it. The show’s design and premise push all the right buttons to target that crowd so even if the rumors are true I can see why they wouldn’t scrap it.
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>>101089139
Specific examples aren't needed; it's obvious in whichever cartoon you watch. There is generally a need to get from Point A to Point B, but the creator of the show fails to ever figure that out, and instead relies on the team to develop the plot. This is why most shows are incredibly episodic with only hints of an underlying plot, and why there's usually loose ends and dropped points. It's because of the promotion of these episodic, easy-to-air shows that we've gotten to this point. It's easier to create cartoons that are stand-alone episodes that can air out of order, than to create an entire story that makes the viewer dependent on each episode to watch it.
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>>101087203
Remember Twilight?
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>>101085735
Could somebody please explain what "zuked" means?

Does it have any relation to the Lauren Zuke who worked on Steven Universe?
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>>101089373
Yes. That's exactly what we're dealing with here.
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>>101089397
What did she do to earn her the memetic title of "zuking"? I still have no clue...
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>>101089452
She tried to write in a lesbian relationship between Lapis and Peridot and got caught and forced to leave. Same exact situation occurring (albeit not confirmed) where someone tried to write a romance for the main characters of Owl House.
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>>101089513
Ah.
That's fucking hilarious.

I'm glad more people who try and push this shipping shit in cartoons are getting caught for it.
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>>101085835
>that belly
>them thighs
m-mommy...
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>>101089116
The only CalArts show that stuck to a script and Bible and followed the creators vision was Gravity Falls, and /co/ hates Hirsch's guts because they wanted the show to last longer. So clearly there isnt "one" solution. If the creator controls the story, we revolt. If the fans control the story, we revolt. It has to be a delicate mix of both
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>>101086233
She looks like the kind of asshole that would sort of hear something from a private conversation across the room, and assume it's something terrible and go confront them over it.
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>>101087500
We do know they rehired a lot of boarders so something happened that caused some kind of problem with the firmer crew.
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>>101087725
>disrupting heteronormativity
>DISRUPTING
The way her response if worded really makes me think. Cotungo and her California liberal buddies claim to believe that being gay is okay, being straight is okay too, and the only important thing is love. But she specifically says she wants to DISRUPT heteronormativity, aka, the reality that men and women are the only true union that can further the species.
It's as if dykes like her KNOW on some subconscious level that the LGBT shit they're pushing into cartoons is wrong and degenerate and shouldn't be there in the first place, but they hate reality so much they want to subvert it and destroy tradition
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>>101089000
>>101089116
A lot of boarders are given a lot of freedom on these things. Most of the time an episode will just be handed over to a single boarder and told "Okay go, make an episode for me." With no supervision. They get to make everything from their own imagination alone and then send it for approval when completed. And all too often things are approved because there is no time to redo the whole damn thing. So boarders really do get to make their own fanfiction a reality apart from the showrunner based on how they do their job.
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>>101090153
Isn't that exactly the "horror scenario" that conservatives have been screeching about for years? That the gays are going to want to disrupt normalcy for their own ends etc etc. It almost reads like something Pat Robertson would have claimed "the gays" want to accomplish. Than something someone would actually say and mean it.
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>>101090217
Yes, exactly. What was considered to be a "horror scenario" dreamt up by paranoid conservatives in 2008 has come to pass to become a reality in 2018.
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>>101085735
>Sabrina Cotugno
WHAT A TERRIBLE NAME
>Sabrina Cotugno
BRINGS HER FAMILY SHAME
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>>101090153
Things like that always make me want to ask
>Does it ever make you wonder just why people have such a backlash?

Because more often than not the general population does not really like it when someone new comes along with the attitude of "Hey I'm here to fuck up everything you know and like because reasons!"
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>>101090279
it's surreal how reality is becoming more hyperbolic.
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>>101085835
THICC
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>>101085835
>>101085860
I'm trying to process why these posts got deleted
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>>101090284
IT MEANS DIDDLED LOLIS
AND YOUR OCs BEING GAAAAAY
IT'S HER SICK FANTASY
AIRED ON TV
>Sabrina Cotugno
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>>101090298
I, for one, welcome our new homosexual overlords.
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>>101090369
Damage control, they don't want us memeing their show going up in flames
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>>101090153
It's classic doublethink. Accepting that "heteronormativity" means admitting that being gay/bi/"pan"/whatever is a deviation and that being straight is the normal state of people; but then, accepting that sexuality is purely a construct means it's okay to talk gays and lesbians into having straight sex and/or entering a straight relationship, just like how straight people get encouraged to "experiment".

Basically, "heteronormativity" is a Schrödinger's argument that is pulled or drawn depending on whether it benefits you or not and it shows liberals only care about individual freedoms the way they define it. It's also why bisexuals are so unpopular in LGBT circles.
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>>101089966
>If the creator controls the story, we revolt
That is not why we revolted against Hirsch. It's because he wanted to quit his own story and started to half ass the last quarter of it when it was clear he wanted to get out of Disney studio.
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>>101090217
>>101090279
And also, it was the conservatives' argument that gay people chose to be gay while liberals said it's an innate thing. And now it's liberals that ramble on about how sexuality and gender are constructs.

It's why I don't consider the Slippery Slope a fallacy anymore.
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>>101090445
Thats a meme though. He didnt quit, he wrote the story he planned on, and theres zero indication he half assed anything. Everyone on the crew says he worked his ass off. Just because you dont like it doesnt mean he didnt give it his all.
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>>101090496
He planned on three seasons, and even said that the Stanford reveal was going to be the second season finale. He got burnt out (he said he already wanted to quit after the first season) and decided to rush things so he could be done with it.
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>>101090496
Hirsch is another story. His ex girlfriend used to post on /co/ and everyone fell in love with her. When he broke up with her, /co/ turned against Hirsch in a supernova of white knight rage, that hasnt ended till this day.
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>>101090443
>word salad
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>>101090537
No he didn't. This is a meme. There is no proof of this. Its just an excuse for /co/ to be mad about a story they dont like. Why are people so desperate to keep this meme alive
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>>101090555
>His ex girlfriend used to post on /co/ and everyone fell in love with her.

bullshit
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>>101090579
Its true that he was burned out (he said it himself) but not true that he changed the amount of episodes because of it.
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>>101090496
He flat out said in interviews he got burned out by season 1 and wanted to end on a cliffhanger but the Garden Wall creator and a talkshow host convinced him not to.
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>>101090584
Lol newfag detected. You're lucky to have been here after the /gfggf/ wars. Literally everyone here knows about this except you
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What does 'zuke' mean. Someone explain to me this new dank meme terminology as google has nothing.
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>>101090623
You are so full of shit
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>>101090614
So you're mad that he kept going? I thought the meme was that we're mad that he quit. Make up your mind. It cant be both
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>>101090627
Looks like this zukey took a dookie
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>>101090628
He aint lying, dont remember her name but she used to post pics and everything, then Alex cucked her or something and it all went down south. Fast
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>>101090627
It was already answered here
Look it up
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>>101090628
Hahah its genuinely fun to meet someone who knows absolutely nothing about gf on /co/ Honestly I envy you, it was a shitshow when all that went down
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>>101090627
see >>101089513

To expand, a storyboarder in Steven Universe wanted to hijack the show and turn it into her own Lapidot fanfic. She got caught, drama ensued, and she was fired.
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>>101090647
I'm gonna derail this thread with me constantly asking what zuke is until someone explains.
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>>101090652
By all accounts it seemed like a normal breakup but /co/ acted like WE were the ones being dumped, and have treated Hirsch like our ex ever since, still bitterly meming about him 2 years after the show ended
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>>101090678
>>101090676

Literally right above you, dingus.
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>>101090443
I've always thought it strange how much umbrage so many lgbt types have with "normal", in that a great deal get upset when you remark that being straight is normal, or the most typical and present sexual orientation. It's not like being anormal is always portrayed as bad thing. Being very intelligent or creative isn't normal and is a good thing most times.
It just seems like on of those nit-picky things some internet activists get caught up in instead of real world issues.
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>>101090638
>This level of poor reading comprehension
He gave up. He said in early interviews he had an idea for three seasons, one being each month of summer. Then he got burned out, wanted to quit. Was convinced not to, asked Disney if he could do 13 more episodes, they said "we only order in seasons of 25" or something so he went through with it.

It was obvious whatever ideas and pacing he thought about at the beginning of production was dramatically altered by him over working himself.
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>>101090720
It's the /r9k/ normie meme but without any sense of self awareness.
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>>101090584
>>101090628

Dumb newfag, she'd even complain about /co/ mods being faggots and deleting /gfg/ threads.

https://twitter.com/manzinat0r/status/569367219043307520
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>>101090750
For once the tripfag wasnt a fag
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>>101089000
Recently they have tried to be cool with the creator driven content experiment but instead of making another MLP or AdventureTime it backfires in cases like this where all these kids think they have all this freedom to fly things under the radar when in reality they are screaming at the top of these lungs about it and trying to shoehorn in agenda bullshit.
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>>101091483
It all depends on how you present it. Agenda shit will have your series winning ten different awards before the first episode even airs.

There is not so much of a market for it, but every single advocacy outlet, journalist, and critic in the universe will shower a new series filled with preaching and identity politics with praise as the single greatest thing ever made. And sadly good press goes a lot further than viewership in the eyes of a lot of important people.

The challenge is balancing what viewers want with what all journalists and critics want to see.
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>>101085735
Probably, and now she knows why no one messes with The Mouse
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Any screenshots or evidence to back up this story of a rouge boarder shipping lesbians on Dana’s show?
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>>101085735

Holy shit, no. It was a single bait post by an obvious troll who didn't even follow up by playing around. They just posted a single obvious bullshit thing they pulled out of their ass. It wasn't even mid-tier effort trolling. And now you've decided to push this?
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>>101092236
How come my enemies don't require even the most basic forms of proof when someone accuses a person of rape, but my enemies demand hard proof when a rather innocuous statement contained within 4chan towards a person I have a growing distrust for that is backed up by circumstantial evidence is made?
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>>101085735
>>101085985

>LGBT loli yuri

As a lolifag, i'd be okay with this but i don't like this LGBT propaganda shit. Wouldn't the show be better if it didn't had that?
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>>101092301
The fuck are you going on about it?
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>>101092332
What are you whining about, now?
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>>101092357
Ooooh I get it
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>>101092236
>Any sc>>101090279
>Yes, exactly. What was considered to be a "horror scenario" dreamt up by paranoid conservatives in 2008 has come to pass to become a reality in 2018.
reenshots or evidence to back up this story of a rouge boarder shipping lesbians on Dana’s show?

There is no evidence. The troll in that thread didn't even manufacture any. One /co/ anon said "lol /co/ they wanted to make our shitty fantasy /ll/ ship canon Disney cucked us lol!!!!!!" immediately leading other anons to whack off all over the place. The people repeating this don't even believe it they just want to generate /ll/ while they wait for their shitty "muh magical girl /u/ shit muh Ryouko MILF" show to come on a million years from now. They're just bored and horny.
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>>101092301
Dude what the fuck is wrong with you. What enemies.
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>>101092423
What are you whining about, now?
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>>101092384
t. SEETHING sabrina and RAGING dana trying to do damage control
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>>101092236

There is no hard evidence, only a series of inferences. There were posts by an anon who claims to be part of the production saying that there was tension in the studio. This was followed by Sabrina making a sarcastic tweet about how gay representation gets removed by management, and her removing every reference to Owl House on twitter. Finally, it was reported in various news outlets that Owl House was being delayed for a year for a revamp.

This is all conjecture, some of it reasonable and some baseless. But if you're looking for absolute proof, you're not going to find it.
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>>101090628
The Hirsch thing is a very rare case where /co/ isn't full of it because his girlfriend actually did post here and he did, too. /co/ got pissed at him after their breakup and his anti-Trump tweets and has a very irrational love-hate relationship with him. That's the exception.
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>>101092506
Thanks for the run-down
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>>101092507
>not liking someone cause they hate Drumpf

But no one likes Drumpf

inb4 Kim Jung-Un
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>>101092506
There was one obvious troll post made here the other day manufacturing evidence after everyone was already talking about there being some sort of issues with the show just making up a reason for it. /co/ has a problem with that storyboarder because she thinks that people who ship cartoon children like Starco shippers are pedophiles so an anon made up some shit about her. Her lgbt tweet could have been about SVtFoE just as easily. As for the troll post, the unbelievable part was the claim that everyone working on the show really wanted to put loli in it and the Disney execs said no pedo, that's retarded. If the troll had made up them wanting to put just gay shit in it and there being a conflict, it might be more believable bait, but the troll went with shitty /co/ fanfiction instead. No these prickly puritans did not really want to put loli in a Disney show you dumb gullible faggots.
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>>101092632
>Her lgbt tweet could have been about SVtFoE just as easily

Star has already had gays and lesbos kiss. They were background characters but they were still there.
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>>101092632
Your damage control isn't going to make the producers give you back your show, Dana.
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>>101092327
>pedophilia is better than homosexuality

anon please
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>>101090676
This situation is actually worse than Zuke's, if true. What happened with SU is an example of how things should work. There were creative differences, a little bit of insubordination, and people parting ways. That's normal. But for a production to be delayed an additional year is not.

Whatever direction the show originally had, it got to a pretty mature point. The negligence of the people supervising this show is more scandalous than anything this Sabrina person wanted to do. It's unfortunate /co/ likes to focus on the salacious stuff rather than the more substantive issues this implies.
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>>101092808
This. As much as the one defensive anon is tl;dr ing about it, the fact is that a show got held back a whole year and the entire staff was sacked and replaced with everyone quietly taking their name off the project.

Those aren't normal circumstances.
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>>101092808

"Substantive issues" hey anon

All of the people working at Disney are literal Lizard Men who eat baby's brains.

t. totally real Disney intern

That's the full extent of your "evidence" for this entire theory so it's just as likely to be true. "Substantive issues?"

What there is some evidence of is them having some sort of production problems which might be substantive in that Disney animation can't get their shit together. We don't know it's about writing. Maybe it's a salary dispute? I think there is evidence that Disney's tv department has problems. Didn't they have issues with the Tangled series because they screwed boarders out of their contracts or something. I've heard the tv department there is fucked partly because it's so low on Disney's totem pole.
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>>101092933
S E E T H I N G
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>>101090720
It’s easier to screech about “muh gender” than about poverty, teenage criminals, massive ecological damage, local urban decay and other quite serious issues.
We used to have a shitloads of Greenpeace activists. Where are they now?
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>>101092933
What are you on about, now?
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>>101092675
kek
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>>101092697
No i mean like, why bother putting LGBT in a show at all? Wouldn't the quality of the show be better without it and it will be more about adventures?

MC is inevitably going to be loli bait.
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>>101092933
You're trying real hard to brush this under the rug, aren't you Dana?
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>>101092887
I'm curious myself but unlike people here I'm not stupid enough to believe whatever happened is because the entire staff wanted to make an openly pedophilic show for kids on Disney because a single anonymous troll here made a single anonymous post with no evidence in response to people wondering what happened. I don't think there's any real evidence for what happened but I can tell you it wasn't because they wanted to make Disney's Loli Witches. I also don't see why they would fire everybody if one person wanted to put pedophilia and loli on the show instead of just firing the openly pedophilic person. Is the troll explanation that every single person who was working on this show was a lolifag pedophile?
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>>101092933
>Disney animation can't get their shit together.

This is what I implied. I don't know where you're getting everything else from.

Whatever system Disney has in place, it allowed a show to derail and require an additional year of production. This is a supervision/chain of command issue. This would be substantive if we could get some inside people to chime in on this, instead of more accusations about who's shipping what.
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>>101092989
So would it be okay if the romance was straight?
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>>101091382
Retard
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>>101093336
If the SVTFOE main demographic is the same one that Owl House is trying to nail, that answer is a definitive yes.
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>>101087345
Eda is going to be Celestia from horse show all over again because the only thing people will ever discuss about her is memeing that she's a diddler
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>>101086795
Yeah a grown woman grooming a kid to be her fuckpuppet's going to be gentle and caring.

Fucking christ.
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>>101093420
Are you implying that's a bad thing

I fucking love chicks like her, /ll/ makes it even better
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>tfw it's common knowledge that people from the animation industry browse /co/

It makes these shop talk threads so much more amusing. I like to try and pick out who's got a job in the industry and who doesn't based on their posts. See if I can tell who's got an ego to bruise.
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>>101093450
I mean yeah. Grommers usually are to a point.
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>>101093450
It's 2018 anon. Little girls have kinks and are becoming gay even for older women. Support LGBT pls.
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>>101093415
>that bit of dick showing
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>>101093635
pls hab vagene
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>>101093450
The real life track record of molesters ain't too good, but one can only hope Eda will be kind for Luz's sake. Even a trillion dollar warrant doesn't prove she's evil enough to hurt this level of adorable
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>>101093687
Rule 43: "The more beautiful and pure a thing is -- the more satisfying it is to corrupt it."
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Are they the new Wuya and Raimundo
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>>101092506
It's a group improv session. We learned the show is coming out a year later than we expected. We wondered- why? In the absence of any info we started making up whatever the horniest possible answer was. One anon with one hand on his dick and his other hand on the keyboard just started going full "My Uncle at Nintendo" on it, and other anons stared fanning the flames for more fap material. This is less than nothing.
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>>101093744
No, because Wuya is actually hot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcUzTRhzsFo
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>>101093786
>Eda
>not hot
Hold up one fucking second
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>>101093778
>less than nothing
>previously announced staff taking their names off the project on social media and the studio making a ton of new hires to replace them
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>>101093810
The way Daron draws her isn't that hot, but some of the other staff do her up nice
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>>101093846
Daron, meant Dana, dammit
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>>101093846
>>101093855
>tfw your own fans can't remember your name and confuse you with your more successful rival
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>>101093810
Absolutely unappealing. Her legs look like tree stumps, but without the proper definition you can tell that she's got cottage cheese ass and she couldn't trap you in a leg lock. She's pale, but not in the cute goth way, and the lack of color in her outfit and eyes render her monochrome, instead of complementary. Her hair is lupine, but without the mystery or assertiveness that comes with wolf-like features. Most importantly, she has a yellow fang, which belies her awful oral hygiene; my dick would get gingivitis from her performing oral.
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>>101093778
>This is less than nothing.
Of course a network isn't going to outright state to a news outlet, "Our production is fucked, everything is fucked", they want to keep up the illusion of nothing is wrong. You look for the signs, and thanks to the internet, we can see the signs of sudden random firings and large mass hirings for the production on top of a delayed release date.

There's no question that there is some production conflict going on: what it is is the speculative part.
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>>101092632
>starco is pedophilia
>lemme put gay ships in kids shows
what? I don't watch star vs. but what kinda bullshit view is that?
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>>101093846
It's calm and subtle, but really does show some unique flow.

>>101093871
Anon, that is what a witch is actually supposed to look like. Not all witches are meant to be extremely attractive and seductive, but for a character like Eda compared to someone like Wuya, Eda is pretty far up there for an attractive looking witch in fairytale terms.

>gingivitis from oral
UNF
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>>101093618
Fuck you and your fucking pedosexual friends. All pedophiles must be gassed
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>>101093963
Want some pizza?
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>>101093936
Why are you projecting your witchnormative subjectivity onto what a magic user that identifies by both sex and gender as female? Does this automatically render obsolete Angelina Jolie's appearance as Maleficent in the live-action movie, simply to cater to your cisgender male interpretation?
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>>101093963
Why are you here?
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>>101094015
Yes
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>>101093984
HELL YEAH MOTHERFUCKER
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>>101093415
>You will never have an alien-insect girl wake you up in the middle of the night to wrap you in her cocoon
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>>101093963
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>>101093744
Huge molesty vibe in this pic for sure
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>>101094039
Ah god damnit
Am I a pedo
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>>101094192
Embrace what you know in your heart to be true
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>>101094192
>Am I a pedo
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>>101088032
Lauren Zuke was a storyboarder on Steven Universe recruited from tumblr, who apparently couldn't quite understand that getting to work on the show doesn't mean you get to try to push your OTP to becoming canon. She's essentially the reason Lapis and Peridot became an artsy lesbian couple living in a barn and doing shitty contemporary art. She apparently wanted it to be even more canon, got told no by Sugar and then bitched online about what a horrible, abusive boss she is, though she didn't fully name names. It seems that realities of working in animation, namely the rush, having to meet deadlines, having to do what the showrunner/creator says and so forth were just too much for her and she had a nervous breakdown ranting about how all she tried to do was put queer representation in media, just one healthy relationship, and even that was denied her.

Don't recruit fanartists from tumblr onto your show. You might think you're giving them an awesome change to work on their dream job (you are) but they might think this means they get to turn their fanfiction headcanons into legit canon as they please and that's it, and might not understand the realities of having to work for someone else and accept that no, you can't do whatever you want and put canon lesbians everywhere.
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>>101090393
Go back to pol/
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>>101093825
The /ll/ troll post was less than nothing, the show itself obviously got fucked up prob by some boring but embarassing thing like budget issues or poor planning or a drama whore office culture
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>>101094323
>or a drama whore office culture
Like someone, for instance, trying to promote an /ll/ relationship in a children's cartoon to prove that it can be done in a healthy, positive way to dissuade children from being brainwashed by heteronormative ideas, and teach them inclusiveness and self-acceptance?
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>>101094367
Do you really believe everything you read here?
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>>101089116
>>101090192
Oh jesus shit like that totally explains why Steven Universe went to shit. How do you have consistent characterization if every boarder can do whatever in the episodes they get? What a mess.
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>>101094425
> How do you have consistent characterization if every boarder can do whatever in the episodes they get?

you can't, that's why she had a breakdown and quit
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>>101094323
Even if the /ll/ claim can and will never be proven (though there are things to indicate Cotugno either left or was fired) and was just an attempt to either stir up aimless discussion among summerfags and/or stealth beg for more lewds it's still a win in my book. I'll take whatever makes things interesting around here, just don't believe everything you read.
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WHY THE FUCK WOULD SHE TRY AND SHIP A 11 YEAR OLD GIRL WITH AN ADULT WOMAN WITCH?

WHAT THE FUCK
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>>101092954
It's not like things like Greenpeace are much better though. The group is full of retards with a collective hero complex.
Pic related, the fucking subhumans had the fantastic idea of driving there with their trucks and left tire marks all over the place to put a completely irrelevant and useless message (which also left marks) on a place that had remained untouched for over two millennia.
It's the definition of narcissism.

On a similar note, there was also that group of "free the pets" activists who would kill the animals themselves.
In my personal experience, I've found that the people obsessed with being the defenders/heroes in social matters end up becoming the most destructive individuals in those departments. They cope with it by deluding themselves they're actually "saving" shit, because it's easier to ignore your flaws than to admit them and improve yourself.
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>>101094465
The same reason any of us would, it gives her crotch tingles
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>>101092236
Cotugno was listed as a director before, iirc, not a boarder. And she's been vocal on twitter and tumblr about how "her life's purpose" is to shove in as much queer representation as she can to the media, as well as biracial rep because she's biracial or whatever, and she's made some really cryptic sarcastic tweets about how frustrated she is when her attempts to bring queer representation in the media are shot down (people thought it was about svtfoe, but looks like it was about the Owl House) and now she's removed all references to OH.
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>>101094466
What you're referring to is a Messiah complex, and it is one of the most catastrophic mental disorders that we've identified, because someone suffering from it cannot fathom the possibility of being wrong, and will do absolutely everything possible, good or evil, to achieve their goals. This differs from someone who is simply Machiavellian, because the latter actually utilizes planning to do what they please. It's the subtle difference between, "Whatever it takes," and, "By any means necessary."
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>>101092384
>>101092506
This is the Cotugno tweet btw
https://mobile.twitter.com/arythusa/status/957048299906674688

>I SURE DO LOVE IT WHEN PEOPLE CENSOR LGBT REPRESENTATION IN ANIMATION. IT'S LIKE MY FAVORITE THING. *extremely tight smile*
>26 Jan 2018
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>>101094460
>there are things to indicate Cotugno either left or was fired
don't play with my heart, anon
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>>101094605
She had "director on Owl House" in her Twitter bio, it's now gone, along with all other tweets about her role on the show. I doubt she'd edit it for no reason.
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>>101094310
I mean, by the time she got around to doing that the show was shit, anyways.
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>>101094583
>Censor gay representation

Welcome to working with a private fucking studio. Also, there is a difference between censoring something after it aired (Ruby being changed to a boy in SU dubs) and rejecting ideas before they even make it to production.

Don't want to deal with the latter, go indie, retard. Disney is not obligated to fulfill your dream of "more gay characters", you could do that yourself.
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>>101093888
on tumblr the current hot take is that any romantic relationship where one of the characters is underage, that is under 18, OR ships where both are legal adults but there's an age gap of - idk 3+ years is now "pedophilia". So for example two characters from Yuri!!! on ICE aged 16 an 19 are a pedo ship because omg one is an adult and the other a MINOR. Also a ship from Voltron or whatever where one is 19 and the other 24-25 is pedo because omg AGE GAP.

They're retards.
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>>101093778
>>101094323
>less than nothing
>staff leaving the show, new people being hired to replace them, production being postponed by a whole year

Are you a corporate shill trying to damage control or what? That sort of stuff speaks of something rather dramatic going down behind the scenes, if they're getting rid of the team and replacing people.
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S A M E
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>>101092887
>entire staff was sacked
Wait what really? Entire staff, not just some random individuals?
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>>101094633
remember when she told everyone she was going to be a season 3 director on Star Vs. and then she practically never had a director credit
Pepperidge Farms remembers
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>>101094794
I think she's had director credit on some eps by now?
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>>101094583
jsyk when this tweet first came out the first reply was a supportive sounding tweet from Daron that's no longer there. Too bad I didn't archive or cap it.
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>>101085735
>Ryoko, but she wants some brown loli pussy
There is nothing wrong with this.
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>>101094425
Generally this is why you have a series bible that covers every aspect of the characters, the setting and the story with model sheets for each and full maps of the locations. Everyone is given a quick education on the whole series and then some reference material for what they need to be making.

Then they are either split into very small teams of 1-3 people or trusted to a single episode alone and then told to have their individual assignments completed by a specific date.

It is in this time that they are left to their own devices to board everything on their own and when they are done they submit it to the director for approval.

Thing is, when you have a show with little to no actual direction at all, then the boarders sort of fall into their own individual habits and things divert from there. Everything hinges in a series director that keeps a tight ship.
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>>101094633
So clearly she tried to have an adult fuck a child in a disney show. There is 100% no chance she left for any other reason ever. She clearly fucked over a production that was never given an official release date nor officially announced delay all while the creator of the owl house still follows her on twitter.
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>>101094871
So? What do you think that implies?

Imo if she would have wanted to slap LGBT rep in svtfoe and Daron was in her corner, it'd have gone through. It's also possible that she talked about her plans and hopes for the OH to Daron or her colleagues at svtfoe and they express support, it's a small industry.
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>>101094887
You're being awfully defensive on this subject, Anon. Are you one of the people >>101093500 is referring to?
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>>101085735
>OWL house
>OWL lady
>OWL staff
>Sidekick is dog-inspired
>MC wears a cat hoodie

How the fuck do you screw up your own theme this hard...
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>>101094310
>Don't recruit fanartists from tumblr onto your show. You might think you're giving them an awesome change to work on their dream job (you are) but they might think this means they get to turn their fanfiction headcanons into legit canon as they please and that's it, and might not understand the realities of having to work for someone else and accept that no, you can't do whatever you want and put canon lesbians everywhere.


I'm fairly certain this is true for any field. You need someone to work in a professional environment that can perform a job for a major project. This is a job for fellow professionals that know what they are doing and can work in that environment. Not for an enthusiast you found online one day.
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>>101094887
>was never given an official release date
2019 date was indeed given in the original press release in February, while the new one says 2020.
Anyway, yes, it's totally possible that it's a coincidence. But it's what anons found when trying to corroborate intern anon's story rather than something that was originally presented as part of it, and considering her comments about censorship it paints a mildly convincing picture. No one should believe it entirely on the basis of evidence that's impossible to prove (if intern anon had posted some other leaks from the production that could be proven when the show airs it would be much more convincing) but it's amusing to shoot the shit about.
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>>101094999
Seems like she might get a costume upgrade once she settles in
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>>101094999
>over the garden wall
>there is no wall
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>>101085735
Do you have any sources for this? I tried to google it but I can't find any news
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>>101086233

Perfect archetypal problem glasses.
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>>101093744
>>101085735
This is an in-joke right, there wasn't a Cubone recolor in the cast that made it all the way to production without someone informing Nintendo
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>>101095024
That's cause they were over it, silly.
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>>101095070
And based on her bio, sounds like she's not involved now.

She also didn't confirm that Star Vs was ending. That was nothing, guys!
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>>101095070
lmao, she's lying through her teeth. She's the kind of person to ignore and block people who aren't in the industry, why would she respond so quickly if not to cover her tracks?
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>>101095103
This, she totally confirmed outright that Star was wrapping up and then was forced to walk it back and say it wasn't what it looked like, which makes it hard to trust her
>>101095070
>not denying that Eda and Luz were "supposed to be a couple"
>not commenting about the ship being pedo
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>>101095070
S E E T H I N G
S A B R I N A

*breathes in*
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>>101094966
>What do you think that implies
I infer it to mean "Sabrina was burning bridges and Daron was quietly advised not to side with staff using social media to make Disney look bad and deleted the tweet."
It's one thing to quip "Jackie's next relationship's going to be gay" but another to say "I'm in the moral right against my employer."
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>>101095070
>that blatant evasion language
oh what the fuck, don't tell me the shitposts are real
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>>101095070
HAHAHAHAHAHA SABRINA SCREWS THE STUDIO AGAIN
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>>101095152
>She's the kind of person to ignore and block people who aren't in the industry
Sabby's thick as thieves with Emmy Cicierega, who's pulled these kinds of stunts on social media and what Cotugno doesn't comprehend is that 1. Emmy's probably got more friends and/or people afraid of her and 2. Emmy's been in the business longer. They both went on rampages over porn being drawn of characters they've boarded (but didn't create or own), and Cotugno's been suspected of ratting out Area's blogs to get them taken down.
The irony that Cotugno herself is a rabid shipper of "problematic" relationships is not lost on us.
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>>101094649
Yea only she will likely never ever understand that. She is the kind of person that wants to inject their personal politics into absolutely everything she says and does. And whenever she manages to takee that shit way too far and finds someone that does not want to deal with her personal politics she falls back on claiming she is being horribly censored by the evil giant anti-everything conspiracy.

People love their victim complexes when they take shit too far, and when they are told to cut it out, they attribute it all to the evil giant conspiracy to silence them. Fucking everyone pretends there are conspiracies to silence them.
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>>101095192
It's funny how she doesn't draw her hair accurately and leaves out the constellations of moles covering her face. Or is this someone else's rendering of her
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>>101095250
rip anon
enjoy your vacation
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>>101095250
Quick anon: Arrow drop down next to post #ID --> Delete --> File

Spare yourself
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>>101095269
that's Elena Manetta's (a /co/ drawfag) drawing of Sabrina's own self OC, the previous panel has a dick in it
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>>101095250
> she literally went to the trouble of saving and printing /co/ JPEGs to validate her role in the universe as a known entity
I won't lie, in her place I'd do the same. Doesn't mean I can't laugh at her for doing it though.
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>>101095152
>She's the kind of person to ignore and block people who aren't in the industry

Yea this kind of thing has made twitter pretty damn depressing. If you attempt to talk to someone or comment their tweet, even to congratulate them, you better have a listing that you are a storyboard or background artist too or else you get the block.
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>>101095070
>>101095186
>>101095154
this shit
Given her personality and previous comments you'd think she'd say "ew no what the fuck pedo" or just block them without a response
Instead, this, which doesn't deny anything about the statement other than that this particular tweet isn't about TOH
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>>101095325
>If you attempt to talk to someone or comment their tweet, even to congratulate them, you better have a listing that you are a storyboard or background artist too or else you get the block.
Sure
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>>101095325
That's one thing that I always liked about John K. Despite him being a total creep with issues, he responded to every single email he ever got from artists looking for advice and regularly interacted with online randos without any pretenses.
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>>101095354
because Twitter is run by the blue-checkmark Sneetches
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>>101095367
>Despite him being a total creep with issues,
Opinion discarded.
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>>101095325
All the more reason why Ian is basedboy.
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>>101095423
That's the old Ian. The new Ian has a show now and would not have the same view.
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>>101095439
He hired some guy to work on OK KO who was blacklisted from a couple of studios for being weird and gross, so he's still a pretty laidback guy.
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>>101095302
>the previous panel has a dick in it
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>>101095461
Oh really? Who is he?
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>>101095269

http://thehushhush.tumblr.com/

NUT
U
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>>101095325
I used to try to reach out to some people I found on twitter. A lot of them would talk about how their time in the industry and banter back and forth with each other. But more often than not if any student or new graduate asks them anything they are just ignored.
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>>101095489
Kirbopher. Apparently he acted gross and immature with a cheese bagel in front of a tour group and it was named "the bagel story", then he was blacklisted from some NYC studios.

https://twitter.com/unsentiments/status/755941432645431296
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>>101095103
What what I'm out of the loop what happened?
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>>101095302
>some anon kept saying she got blacklisted for drawing lewd Danas
>mfw these rumours are based Eleny Manetty crashing this plane with no survivors
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>>101094466
I dont know really why, but after looking at that photo, im kinda understand a guy with a deforestation and pollution fetish.
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>>101095560
>she really did get blacklisted
>this is her last breath revenge scheme

i hope if true
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>>101095325
A LOT of them have been in defensive mode since the Thundercats Roar thing last month. The random boarders from everywhere came in to defend it and then were attacked by randoms for a few days. So now they are weird and paranoid and viewing anyone not within their little circle as some new "troll" account waiting to bitch them out.
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>>101095623
kek, sounds like some nervous royal court. Have to watch your mouth or else you'll get blinded/killed/maimed.
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>>101095594
>this escalates further
>one angry drawfag destroy's the mouse's empire, all for revenge

N U C L E A R
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>>101095557
Sabrina announced on Twitter production was wrapping up on Star Vs, which led people to say that the series was going to be ending after season 4. The Star Vs. crew got harassed with people asking if it was true, then Sabrina had to update her Twitter and say she only meant that HER time on the production was wrapping up, she has no idea about the future of the show itself.

It's heavily against contracts to announce when a series is ending without studio permission first (Hirsch had to wait to tell people GF season 2 was the last one until the finale aired due to contract), so it's possible she got fucked really hard by HR after that.
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>>101095560
oh fug
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>>101095152
She probably responded only because she's so damn TRIGGERED by the idea of anyone anywhere shipping a kid character because it's pedo, Luz or otherwise, but also probably isn't authorized to say anything about OH characters one way or the other because she's not involved with the show anymore. Her tweet was probably about some Star vs. thing.

Here's a more believable rumor you could have made up knowing her: the other boarders or Dana have a joke about Luz having a crush on Eda, she starts ranting about how they are all in real life pedos, threatens to go to the police, quits. That I would believe.
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>>101095660
Oh my god Cotugno is such an idiot. I guess the actual drawing and boarding ability is half-decent but everything else, like the way she carries herself on social media, just shows that she really does not think about what she says at all. She just blurts things out and can't be arsed to think about how people will interpret it and what the consequences will be and if she should say that thing at all.
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>>101095560
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU TREAD ON /OURGIRL/

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU BLACKLIST PEOPLE
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>>101095652
it basically works like that, storyboarding jobs are temporary and involve going from studio t studio multiple times a year. So you have to be on everyone;s good side and most jobs come from word of mouth. So you need to know a shitload of other people who are working.

It is really easy to piss someone off and then it becomes really hard to find work.
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>>101095691
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>>101095832
>storybros
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>>101095240

Yes her and Emmy have gone on lots of "think of the children" rants about how sexy pictures or stories of anything made for kids, including of adult characters, is outright evil because a kid somewhere might see it.

It's not that I don't get their point at all it's just that making the entire Internet completely kid safe would involve much more than that. You would have to completely police the entire Internet. I find that SVtFoE artist they hate creepy too. I just can't think of a non fascist way to make the entire Internet G rated.
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>>101095847
God, don't fucking remind me. Her throwing her teacher under the bus because of her own victim complex while being praised for it is so fucking shameful.
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>>101095873
How the hell can people like them hate the former, but then go on to support shows like Steven Universe where the creator admits it's about children understanding what "consent" means?
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>>101095847
>>101095880
>people still think this isn't the kind of person who'd hijack a show to make some IMPORTANT QUEER REPRESENTATION while completely ignoring the pedophilic part due to hypocrisy
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>>101095880
She needs to go back to making webcomics and being paid by Patreon if she can't comprehend basic shit.
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>>101094425
>>101094885
Nothing Zuke actually did in SU would have diverged enough to matter. SU does in fact have a writing staff. While there is a lot of shit that is obvious (and hilarious) in retrospect with later knowledge, it's pretty much inconsequential. The fact that Zuke was fired/asked to quit/quit over something she was pushing for rather than something that she did is pretty telling.
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>>101095880
Yeah, but he works at Cal Arts so fuck him. He has done much more damage to the industry than she has.
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>>101095950
>"yeah but he's a nazi"
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>>101095950
If Sabrina is evidence of anything, the teachers at CalArts can all be fucking James Baxter and they'll still graduate being little shits who destroy the industry from the inside out.
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>>101093825
>We have PROOF that the Loch Ness monster attacked the show, why else would there be a production delay? Why else would Sabrina be so shy about talking about the Loch Ness monster? In fact, not a single artist on OH has mentioned the Loch Ness Monster on social media, which is really suspicious, and basically proves that it happened

Imagine waking up one morning and being this fucking stupid
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>>101095958
>>101095965
Cal Art students, please.
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>>101091483
>AdventureTime

I wouldn't consider AT as a good example to be honest since the show's main reason for going downhill was because there wasn't a cohesive vision keeping everyone in check.

> All those who just wanted to make these "2deep4you" episodes in a 11-minute children's cartoon.

>All those who continued to force their awkward experiences growing up and dating on Finn, giving us entire seasons of him being shit on by everything and everyone.

>All who wanted to be the next Sugar and wite that perfect ep that fans would continuesly reference. Giving us shit like thinking characters like Lemonhope were endearing.
>Shps everywhere because everyone wanted a particular ship.

AT is the postedchild of lack of a cohesive team.
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>>101094465
No one would, no one did. Made up meme is made up.
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>>101095899
To be fair consent can be for non sexual things and you can teach the concept without outright porn. Kids should know to avoid being victims. I just think the risk of running across adult content is everywhere now so you would have to completely change things for that to happen, no anonymity and censorship everywhere.
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>>101095925
This is what I don't get. She's against pedophilia to the point of attacking r34 artists, but she wants children to see positive gay role models...?

If anything, shouldn't she be against the romance of ANY kind in kids cartoons with characters who are under 18?
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>>101095925
She would never, ever be down with any hint of /ll/, she's just as vehemently against age gaps in /y/ or /u/ content. It isn't that.
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>>101094746
This has happened on every show and movie since the dawn of time. People are constantly being hired and fired. Schedules are always being shuffled by networks for business reasons.
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>>101095967
>analogy is a form of proof
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>>101087421
What the deuce are you talking about?
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>>101096025
Then what the fuck is it that tore this show's production apart and why did everyone get disappeared off the credits?
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>>101096027
>People are constantly being hired and fired
Not all at the same time, Jethro
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>>101095847
>Oh here's the queer feminist, gotta say her social issues again."

But, it's true. She declared this to be basically the point with her whole paragraph.
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>>101095997
>and you can teach the concept without outright porn
Yeah, but about 70% of SU's relationships are about intimacy, so it's a little bit more than, "Consenting that your friend can touch you on the shoulder".

>I just think the risk of running across adult content is everywhere now
Also exploring your sexuality is a normal goddamn kid thing to do, how the FUCK are people supposed to find out if they're gay, straight, or whatever unless they're exposed to things that will turn them on by the time their hormones start blooming? Boys start jerking off at 8 years old, you have to be an idiot to think it's shameful behavior that a young boy wants to fuck Kim Possible or something.

It's ironic the people who think every kid who stumbled upon PornHub will grow up to be a dysfunctional adult is highly dysfunctional themselves with multiple layers of complexes and depression that only fosters itself because people encourage it.
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>>101095967
anyone not just funposting in this thread is pretty daft
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>>101095461
Someone who seek the singing voice of DK from the DKC cartoon for a musical number can't be not baised.
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>>101096052
>you have to be an idiot to think it's shameful behavior that a young boy wants to fuck Kim Possible or something
I mean, look at Richard Sirois
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>>101096027
Yes, it happens all the time... Because productions often have trouble or go through development hell. When that happens, it's usually a sign something is wrong with the production pipeline.
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>>101095832
>>101095847
>>101095880

It sort of looks like her real grievance is
>I am working with people that I don't like, this industry needs to be changed!
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>>101096045

It could be anything. I'm guessing office drama or contract disputes. It is Disney. This shit happens with their shit.
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>>101095070
If you make something up, then the person denies the thing you made up, thats PROOF the thing you made up is real!
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>>101089000
>she kept on talking about how she wanted to add queer characters into every show she works on
>She stated that jackie from star was queer on her blog from star vs the forces of evil after breaking up with marco saying "she is going to only date girls from now on"
>which is most likely something daron never even approved for her to say as it's never mentioned in the show or by anyone if the staff apart from her
>she probably tried to force a another queer thing into owl house without permission causing creative differences with the staff or the suits over at Disney
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>>101096088
>a show getting delayed a whole other year while the staff gets quietly fired and replaced is totally normal, guys, trust me, this happens all the time

no it doesn't
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>>101095965
>>101095950
You do know that people like James Baxter teach classes at calarts right. a lot of the story and animation teachers are industry veterans from disney and other studios
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>>101095847
So "Woe is me I have to work with a group of people that I would never hang out with?"

Yea that's called working in a job. We all do it.
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>>101096028
>lack of proof is a form of proof
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>>101096078
I would have more respect for her if she weren't an overfed middle class Californian who has never worked a public facing job in her life or suffered anything resembling adversity. She's a good artist but like MOST good artists should follow the orders of someone who's more experienced and less starry-eyed until her bourgeois idealism is beaten out of her instead of constantly playing a nonexistent victim card.
Her parents raised a shitty kid.
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>>101096127
>animation teachers are industry veterans from disney and other studios
ssssssshhhhhhhhoooooooocccccccckkkkkkiiiiinnnnngggg
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>>101096123
Try to keep up. There is no evidence that anyone was fired or replaced. That part is entirely made up right here on 4 chan dot com. The only thing we know is that a press release said the show is premiering later than we expected, and that Sabrina Cotugno is obnoxious. There's no evidence about anyone getting fired at any point, and no evidence about anything involving pedo shit, that part is /co/'s embellishments
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>>101096127
Yes, that's what I was saying. The entire alumni can be the most famous animation veterans around and the students graduating will still be retards because based on >>101095880 they're convinced everyone is out to get them and want to stay in their safe space. And those are the people getting jobs now, not the old talent, but the young ones.
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>>101095950
He's also a white male speaking out against a strong willed LBGT and attempting to silence them!

Fuck him for living.
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>>101096182
Oh I know, I just hate how so many of the teachers get the blame when a lot of the problems come directly from the students.
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>>101095847

What kind of "aggressively masculine behavior" could a bunch of libuck soiboi commiefornians have done to alienate Sabrina? Did they look at her for more than five seconds?
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>>101096137
>Her parents raised a shitty kid.
She probably came out as bi to them and when they said, "Yeah, so what, sweetie?" she had a fucking panic attack and said they're oppressing her and want her to fail.
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>>101096182
>>101096198
>>101096199
Man, you Cal Arts dickriders are something else!
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>>101096182
Sabrina is awful. Dana is kino in comparison

in b4 someone pisses their diapers over legos
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>>101096137
This.
When I was living and working there it was shocking how many times you encounter this type of person.
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>>101096112
>>101096123

I think the thing is that all the "evidence" of that was just a troll post somebody here just made. The things that went wrong could have been way more salacious, like everyone working on the show killed and ate a bunch of children for all we know, there's just as much evidence of that since the gay tweet everybody keeps bitching about was obviously some Star vs. thing. Development hell does involve shit like companies replacing everyone happening a lot. Everything about it having to do with that boarder or gay shit or anything is just stuff one troll here made up yesterday and the post was obviously a troll.
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>>101095070
You know how she's lying and know what's going on?

She immediately addressed this without even saying "who the hell would say Eda and Luz were together", so she knows what was said
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>>101096266
You'll never get your show back from the producers Dana, never, never ever
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>>101096214
>Dana is kino in comparison

Someone who thought reboot Ghostbusters was good cannot possibly be kino.
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>>101096137
That seems to be the issue with these weird people that have "personal problems" with coworkers and they quit then bitch and moan on twitter about all of their grievances and how much they suffered.

They never so much as worked in a grocery store among a shitload of people they cannot stand, deal with a boss that does not even kind of care about your problems, and the general public that will treat you like shit.

How in the fuck is someone who grew up in a nice comfy upper middle class existence that got to go to a premiere college in a first world country and then landed into one of the easiest jobs on Earth where you are paid to doodle going to complain endlessly about how horribly oppressed they are and how they are censored and silence every day?

I think the old people are on to something. Millennials really are whiny entitled bitches with victim complexes.
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>>101096305
Oh no, by normal accounts she's bauhaus and schwarbage, but in comparison to Cotungabunga? She's Kino and Schway
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>>101096280
>she didn't go out of her way to deny the existence of Bigfoot in her post so Bigfoot is real!

Jeez anon you are all kinds of crazy. I'm sure she's learned her lesson about talking about any show unauthorized after getting in trouble for the SvtFoE stuff. I guess you just want to believe.
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>>101096326
Keep blogposting.
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>>101096357
F-Fuck you...
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>>101096357
As opposed to this entire thread of replies, retard?
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>”Cloe’s Really cute I really love her”

Wait... did BUTCH HARTMAN just express an unpopular opinion???
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>>101096305
Still Kino. Danas few political posts aren't 1/10th as bad as Sabrina shitting on her teacher and coworkers over fake Tumblrina outrage, or Owen Dennis saying that "all shows are miracles." Dana posts cool art of monsters and made a show with lesbian witches. Shes good in my book
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>>101096388
S E E T H I N G
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>>101096392
That cis white male literally raped her by saying that!
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>>101096399
upvoted
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>>101096304
>uh...if...if you dont believe my made up rumor...y...you must be Disney

This is how you spot someone who really REALLY is addicted to their "I got cucked by Disney" fantasy
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>>101096399
Sabrina is cool too if you ignore her entire personality and just look at her art like you're doing with Dana.
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>>101085735
Maybe this is just a slice of life segment while there will still be action.

Y’know, like SU and AT
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>>101096392
That is LITERAL RAPE anon
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>>101096441
Even her art sucks. Her gay Jeckyll and Hyde comic is pure gay whiny Tumblrina shipping trash. She has zero taste in what she draws or how she dresses. She looks like a fat high schooler
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>>101096445
Much like SU and AT, the slice of life segments will outweigh the action segments. Relationshit drama (between heteros, of course) will get more focus than the plot. And when a few will criticize the show on that front, they'll be labeled as "lorefags" by the lowest common denominator.
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>>101096441
Dana did a bunch of charity fundraisers where she was very cute desu. Much better personality than "getting notes is the same as being raped" Cotugno
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>>101096445
...SU and AT have action?

I mean, on a literal term, yes, walking, crying, and flailing your arms are "actions".
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>>101085985
If it had been a /ss/ relationship everyone here would be calling Disney hacks
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>>101096490
R A G I N G

just because she ruined your show doesn't mean you have to be a jerk, Dana.
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>>101096508
>Dana did a bunch of charity fundraisers
You mean her, "I'll draw a bunch of cartoon characters punching nazis" fundraiser?

Yes, that was totally cool and not cringey at all.
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>>101096508
Fundraisers for abortion clinics.
But it's fine because she's so cute and quirky, right?
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>>101096424
I think most people are trying to make a fun thing to pretend but it's not really entertaining enough for that. It's just someone who faps to /ll/. I remember that Gravity Falls rumor that somebody stabbed someone else in the studio over storyboards. That rumor was fun.
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>>101096542

It's fine because clumps of cells aren't sentient beings and it's better than dealing with the economics of now allowing it and because anything else isn't living in a free country.

Nice job definitely moving this thread off topic but I guess it's been there the whole time anyway.

I miss talking about cartoons sometimes.
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>>101096542
dont you have to pay to get an abortion?
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>>101096602
>I miss talking about cartoons sometimes.
>Engage in /pol/ talk
>Whine about too much /pol/ in /co/
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>>101096602
Kind of hard to be on topic in pertaining to cartoons in a thread regarding a show that we haven't seen a single snippet of footage or gotten more than a vague synopsis of.
But yeah, I wish every thread wouldn't turn into /pol/ too
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>>101096326
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>>101096635
S E E T H I N G
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>>101095325
Wow this. It fucking sucks trying to communicate with animators these days since they have this weird elite club mindset.
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>>101090720
There's the argument that bisexuality (like a 1 or 2 on the Kinsey scale) is actually the most common orientation but societal norms push people to be more straight.
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>>101096651
>tfw know a guy who's straight up nazi, "the holocaust never happened but we should fix that" nazi
>he's objectively the best artist you know and can draw amazing realistic art, works in movies, and is all around a dedicated dude who gets shit done

Maybe Hitler had a point about degenerate artists.
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>>101096737
Nah EVS just lose his job
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>>101096737
perverts can do great things but I'm talking real perverts, not bandwagon transtrender assholes
Look at William Moulton Marston
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>>101096651
>>101096737
*upvotes*
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>>101096651
>"Lazy nigger faggot"
Yeah, I know a black girl who is obsessed with black rights and still calls rowdy black kids, "Fucking negros..." as if she grew up in the goddamn 20's.

Apparently being biologically "part" of the community you want to be free from "oppression" gives you free reign to be as offensive as you want.
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https://allosmexy.tumblr.com/post/174810087311/the-suppression-of-any-critical-analysis-and
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This thread needs to do a better job at baiting, I want to know who to avoid when applying for a job.
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>>101096762
You know you have a point, some of those oldschool gay alternative artists drew amazing stuff. Even one of the guys who drew oldschool american propaganda art was closet gay.
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>>101096737
Now we're seeing
eye to eye
We're not so different
You and I
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>>101096326
>>101096651
>>101096737
That's real great you are super deep and insightful with lots of words. We are all in fucking awe that you can write a novel in a image board. Now quit samefagging and fuck off already.
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>>101096881
S E E T H I N G
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>>101093500
How do you pick apart the LARPers from the genuines?
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>>101096660
>>101096414
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>>101096936
>s n e e d i n g
>f e e d i n g
>formerly dobson's
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>>101096936
>i-i'm not mad
>h-here's you 9you0
How sad.
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>>101085735
>an owl house thread
>neat!
>360+ posts
How bad is the thread? Give it to me in misha-posting, pedo-posting, or just regular shitposting.
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>>101096737
Maybe you just have shit taste in art?
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>>101097049
It's the latter.
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>>101096052
I mean look at Sinfest for an example of the mindset; all of his 'pure' characters are children who talk like college aged women and lay down religious dictates about how any exploration of male sexuality leads to becoming a rapist.
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>>101097049
We went from casual conspiracy spitballing regarding behind-the-scenes shenanigans with pedoposting mixed in to /pol/-esque whining in the last hour. It's not great but I haven't been compelled to close the tab out of boredom and pity quite yet
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>>101097049
>He thinks a show with one poster and one screenshot is enough to get 300+ genuine responses

Sounds like you were setting yourself up for failure.
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>>101090122
She looks like the head of HR that likes to lord her power over her elders who got sent there for complimenting a womans dress.
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>>101092633
Not reading all of that, but isn't that already a show where one of the "nongendered" rocks already had the hots for another "nongnedered" rock and then got a pink haired girlfriend?
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>>101097192
Yes, but those were intended by the showrunner. She tried to make her crack ship canon
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>>101097110

Goddamn you I actually visited Sinfest site because of you. It's even worse than I could have imagined.
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>>101097213
Why would anyone care? If there already was homosex whats a few more spoonfulls of sin?
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"Representation"
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>>101087345
This seems like something that could happen in the show. Would Luz warm up to it?
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>>101090445
And because you waifu’d his girlfriend and got mad when he dumped her.

And because he shits on Trump on Twitter, even though this same board claims to support separating the art from the artist.
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>>101097526
>even though this same board claims to support separating the art from the artist.
Have you read a single fucking post in this thread supporting the opposite you retard?
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>>101095502
Truly, you are doing God's work.
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>>101095502
Direct links :
http://thehushhush.tumblr.com/post/172276756765/sabrina-cotugno-is-a-nervous-nellie
http://thehushhush.tumblr.com/post/172157972135/from-the-co-thread-where-we-were-lewding-alex
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>>101095423
>basedboy
>complete pussed-out on the let's watch the pilot episode
>went to do damage control by calling it an au
Nah. He's internet edgy, I'll give you that, since people don't really know that about him, but he's like that kid that would slap people, then hide that hand when caught.
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>>101097584
>posts link
>yasss queen doing god's work
The absolute state of nu-/co/.
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>>101097698
Upset people are drawing porn of you, Dana?
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Sad, it looked promising. But intersectionality gonna intersectionality.
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>>101096881
>I had to read 2 sentences, /v/ never made me do this!
don't you have summer reading kid
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>>101097630
>can't see unless I log in

You're lucky I already have an account
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>>101097807
*upvotes*
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>>101097936
>>101096769
*puts it in my cringe compilation*
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>>101097976
S E E T H I N G
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What the fuck is this thread?
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>>101098079
Shitposting.
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>>101097630
Fucking safe mode, I just want to fap without signing up for the botnet.
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>>101098079
Who the fuck knows
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>>101088032
Cringeword straight out of the SU fanbase who think its the fault of some deranged sjw storyboarder that their show is widely considered to be degenerate tumblr shit.
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>>101097698
>Showing appreciation for someone giving you a new source of porn is tumblr
Truly, you are the master baiter.
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>>101086177
>moles
>alright
No.
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>>101095070
Oh fuck.

It's real.
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>>101092506
This is so fucking hilarious if true. I hope someone squeals. Boarders do have a lot of power over story but Cotugno is delusional if she thinks he can just strongarm a canon relationship into someone else's show.
Can someone round up the tweets about this situation?
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>>101092808
There are a ton of problems with the people managing productions over at DTVA. Many of the shows over there have very unhappy crews.
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I know right? "soiboi animators" don't have the balls to do anything towards women.
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>>101098750

>John K
>soi
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>>101092933
Tangled was a mess, I know a bunch of people who left over poor time management and deadlines but that was a while ago so things may have changed. Didn't hear anything about contracts however.
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>>101098767
Shut the fuck up Misha
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>Cotugno said the actual incidents were subtle. "It would be so easy for guys to say, 'You're exaggerating,' or 'You're overreacting, that was nothing,'" she explained.

Ah yes, the good old "your intent, actions, and actual words don't matter; my negative feelings and perception take precedent" justification. I love how untreated social anxiety is validated and encouraged in media fluff pieces now. Doing so is definitely not at all detrimental to both the "victims" and their so-called abusers. Wonderful.
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>>101087203
Adventure Time except the psycho female character de-ages to be with a little girl
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>>101087225
someone post the pic of Luz getting mating pressed by Eda!
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>>101094465
Bubbline exists, so there ya go.
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>>101098948

>>>/paheal/
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>>101087640
I'd like to see that too
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>>101088032
Nuking a cartoon via one crew member who gets too bold and possessive of the show and decides their vision of the show is the true one and will destroy the show if that's what it takes to meet their goals. Named after Lauren Zuke.
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>>101089116
>Only Nefcy seems to be the one using a Bible, and she has to fight tooth and nail against her team trying to corrupt her story.
and guess who's leading the charge?
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>>101099263
Except Zuke did nothing except get fired.
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Sometimes they do. Not as often as they ought to, but it does happen.
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>>101085735
Who cares, this show looks like a frankenstein of references without a soul.
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>>101088125
Peri is back and better than ever, baby!
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>>101094465
Gee anon it sounds so bad when you put it that way.
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>>101094460
>posts that but doesn't give sauce
Why?
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>>101090144
i'm still waiting for all the shit to come out. it eventually does but we barely know anything about the show itself, so we don't really know the inner workings yet.
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>>101099661
paheal bitch
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>>101098734
Are the production managers also the story creators, or does Disney just repeatedly hire incompetent people to be production managers?
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>>101099449
...If having scenes like that "once in awhile" is enough to be part of the action genre, then I wonder why they didn't advertise Shin Chan as a shonen.
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>>101096490
Lol her stuff is very "2008 Daily Deviation"
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>the baseball bat isn't shaped like a dick
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>>101090584
that actually happened
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>>101090627
>new dank meme terminology
well, it's not new, it's just more relevant in light of the rumors coming out of the show.
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>>101090678
ctrl+f "zuke"
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>>101099707

>Maybe this is just a slice of life segment while there will still be action.
>lol how can you call this action genre
I can't tell if you didn't bother reading the full reply chain or if your reading comprehension is just that bad. Nobody is arguing those shows are proper action cartoons.
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>>101099712
A+ description, anon.
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>>101099792
>while there will still be action

Because even that is still fucking false, you retard, even as a jab. Every cartoon imaginable has random moments where someone fights a dragon or gets in a fist fight, but I would never say, "Fairly Oddparents has some action scenes" just because Timmy wished to be a barbarian once.
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>>101085985
>can't show lesbian pedo ships on disney.
How non-progressive of them. Shame
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>>101099701
A mix of both with a lot of the latter. I know there were a lot of shakeups and delays with Ducktales as well early on in production
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Animation Magazine lists the show as still coming out in 2019. Terrace also says 2019. Outside of the Variety article and the sites that sourced their articles from Variety (a publication that's increasingly rife with errors) nothing even suggests a delay in production. Cotugno also submitted a pitch in recent months. It much more logical to assume that she's working on that than to think she was fired for pushing /ll/ on OH.
Shitposting is one thing but people around here start believing everything that's said because it gets repeated enough. We end up with a bunch howling in authoritative voices about stuff that was never true and could be easily shown as not true with a simple Google search or even just asking the people involved.
There's over 400 posts here and nobody seemed to even check if there were discrepancies between Variety's report and other sources
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>>101087225
>a man of taste
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>>101099940
>Shitposting is one thing but people around here start believing everything that's said because it gets repeated enough.
>I-I will come to the poor aid of 4channers and set them straight!

Fuck off, loser. I bet you also think we unironically believe Hirsch pissed in jars at work and sucked dicks to bunk with people during his time at CalArts.
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>>101093415
>that sliver of dick showing
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>>101099809
>I would never say, "Fairly Oddparents has some action scenes" just because Timmy wished to be a barbarian once
>some action scenes

I haven't watched FOP since I was a teenager so I have no idea if this is accurate, but if chase or fighting scenes happened more than once in the show this is an accurate description of the content of the series. "Some action" doesn't imply that a show is primarily action-oriented.
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>>101099337
Shut the fuck up Zuke
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>>101093738
what's the purest thing /co/ has corrupted?
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>>101093963
>implying I'm not self-inserting as the little girl to imagine my fantasy of having an older lady gf
tch
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>>101095847
Fuck degeneracy, fuck gay pride, and fuck homophobia. This is coming straight from the heart.

There are two very specific reason why her coworkers were uncomfortable when it came to her pushing her ideology in the workplace. For one, and this is just an assumption, she probably had an mindset of victimization and self-indulgence that caused her to ignore the reality of her own lack of social skills; not possessing the self-awareness to consider that it's not her ideals that are the problem, it's her bullheaded approach to implementing them that makes her coworkers appear standoffish. Second, and more importantly, sympathizing with the extensive LGBT+ community is like walking into a minefield.
From an absolute basic view, anyone over the age of 18 can tell that the struggles a gay person faces is vastly different from the struggles a transexual faces. I can sympathize the majority of the LGBT community because the people who don't spend their days on the internet are pretty secure in their own beliefs, and have a clearly defined view of what they struggle with. In the same tangent, I can sympathize with someone who experienced domestic abuse as a child, or with a drug addict.
With all of this in mind, I would be MUCH more comfortable writing about a character who has experienced abuse than a queer character. Someone abused by their mother or father faces deep, complex hardship, but it's a struggle I can understand. When you slap a picture of a dude in front of me and tell me he's a non-binary lesbian, I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. The overlap between gender identity and sexuality is so fucking convoluted, and I've never once witness this "oppressed class" that you're putting on the same level as lynched negroes in the bible belt.
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>>101100035
>and this is just an assumption
No need to talk about a (former) co-worker like that
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>>101094871
so, did Sabrina get pissy at Daron? Daron seems like a sweet woman, I really hope no one on staff is giving her shit
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>>101094466
>In my personal experience, I've found that the people obsessed with being the defenders/heroes in social matters end up becoming the most destructive individuals in those departments.

oh really, so all charities are just doing more harm than good? I feel like you are greatly exaggerating
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>>101094465
she did not ever do that Only /co/ is doing that. /co/ made up that anyone else did to masturbate to it you retarded nigger
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>>101100083
>people obsessed with being the defenders/heroes in social matters end up becoming the most destructive individuals
>all charities are just doing more harm than good

That's a hell of a logical leap. There's a difference between working to help others and uplift the disadvantaged and having a Messiah complex, which >>101094566 described pretty well. The former want to better society, while the latter take up a saviour persona to satisfy their delusions of grandeur.
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>>101095004
"intern anon" was a single fucking post the other day saying HEY YOU GUYS MY DAD WORKS AT NINTENDO DISNEY AND SAID SOME RANDOM PERSON ON THIS WANTED TO MAKE IT A LITERAL LOLI CHILD PORN SHOW AND THEN EVERYONE AGREED TO PUT CHILD PORN IN IT SO DISNEY FIRED EVERYONE they didn't even bother to follow it up with a roleplay or shooped screencaps like a decent fucking troll and they didn't even mention this person that was other /co/ anons saying kek i bet she's involved. after one b8 post they stopped. even as something to play along with for fun this was fucking sad as shit.
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>>101095269
it's actually in reference to Sabrina Cotugno's OC of herself (that she drew for Halloween)
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How do the nips avoid this?
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>>101095325
i talked with plenty of people in the industry, including Cotugno, and have gotten mostly positive responses or the occasional no response. i've never gotten blocked though, so i dunno if it's you or if you are talking to super sensitive staff people
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>>101100035
>>101100062
Continued because my anger sustains me

It's the audacity that irritates me. These people are probably shut-in neets like everyone else here, but you don't see us going around yammering about the victimization of the Tokusatsu fandom, or how the death of traditional animation is a crime against humanity. Yes, people suffer; yes, these people probably have suffered, but instead of talking to their families or a therapist, they've chosen to isolate themselves on the internet with a bunch of strangers. The fantasies of victimization are so extensive, they negatively affect their behavior. And that's what has brought us to where we are.
Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, likes to solve their own problems. It's messy, and ninety-nine times out of a hundred never completely resolves the issue. It's much easier to "help" other people, so as to feel some form of relief. In some black part of their soul, these people do sympathize with, and want to help, others. But virtue signaling has become a sport of peacocks, posturing and vain.
I've been desperate and dejected enough to know the reality they live in. It's a mix of poor coping methods and self-gratification. You wish you were in the shoes of the people you're "supporting", making you feel worse about your own problems. So you flaunt your sympathy even more, relishing in the afterglow of your own dignity, like a junkie who just found a clean vein to shoot up. The feeling fades, the reality of your own shit existence settles in, and you're left with emptiness, the only satisfaction being found in the fact that you aren't the only person in the world who could feel so hollow inside.
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>>101086233
She looks like the kind of asshole cunt that makes sexual harassment charges against a guy for accidentally hearing him tell a joke on lunch break.
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>>101100211
By being intelligent and explaining their positions in well-written and thought out responses.
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>>101094566
>>101100169
what is the difference between whatever it takes and by any means necessary?
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>>101100211
anti-piracyfags btfo again
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>mfw it turns out she really did zuke the show
TGT continuing never ever
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>>101090153
Nah she's just a lesbian. There's always one lesbo in the relationship that has to twice an manly as men around her for whatever reason.

My mother is a doctor with a private practice in California. One of her patients brought her partner along, and she kept trying to show how much better she was than me...until she realized I was just a really tall kid.
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>>101095660
>It's heavily against contracts to announce when a series is ending without studio permission first
how bad is it? what would a studio do if someone fucked up that badly (even by accident?)
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>>101100275
>what would a studio do if someone fucked up that badly (even by accident?)
Terminate your contract, which is probably the third highest consequence a network can do. Second would be blacklisting, first would be bringing you to court. Though, I doubt they would do the first two for accidentally revealing a show is ending prematurely.
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>>101093744
>>101100211
Pirating comics took me out if a 8 year dry spell and I finally went back to a comic shop because I still prefer a book over digital. Piracy could save comics.
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>>101095978
>Lemonhope
don't fucking remind me of that shit. the whole Lemonhope thing left me with a shit taste in my mouth since all the AT fans were jerking their collective dicks about how "smart" and "great" it was

that, among the other shit is why i dropped AT by 2014
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>>101100174
There was two other posts, one had the supposed quote from an executive saying "it was like I left them in a safe playroom and came back to find they started a fire" and the other was saying "you're red hot" when someone mentioned Cotugno
Otherwise yeah, they could have done a lot more to draw out their trolling. Guess they didn't want to make TMSFag's mistake by going on too long and revealing their bullshit.
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>>101100247

I was only talking about the first sentence in that post. I'm not sure what >>101094566 was trying to infer after that, but I would guess they were suggesting there's a difference in believing doing some harm can be justified to serve the greater good vs. believing anything that serves their goal is unambiguously moral and a benefit to all.
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>>101090153
That's not what the silicon valley "disrupt" buzzword means, you silly billy.
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>>101096257
i've never been out West, is it really that bad? what sorta shit did you encounter there?
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>>101100271
People like that are just insecurity given human form somehow. She probably felt like shit after.
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>>101100398
>is it really that bad?
Absolutely. There's a reason the state is called Commiefornia, and it's because they've never faced a day's challenge in their lives, meaning that they're willing to do such shitty social policies because they don't know what having to struggle feels like. Their entitlement makes them naive and ignorant.
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>>101096490
she's made a lot of improvement in her art from where it started
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>>101100211
They actually produce loli yuri for the market. Japanese Sabrina Cotungo wanted to make a story about a young girl training to be a witch and also having sexy times with her teacher then she could do that and still have it be mainstream as long as she stopped just shy of outright pornography.
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>>101100083
This isn't what you were talking about but there are a ton charities that just pocket all the money they get and send barely any of it to people in need.
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>>101100471
I bet the Owl House will be successful in Japan and have some doujin with that exact premise regardless
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>>101100471
I meant how do anime storyboarders have more discipline than western ones.
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>>101096132
On the contrary. Not having to hang out with coworkers you see every fucking day is liberating. She ought to be relieved.
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>>101100439
Eh, I guess.
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>>101100506

Nips have a more robust sense of collective shame and responsibility than Westerners. If an anime or manga is badly made, it reflects on everyone from the animators to the editors to the CEO of the company.
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>>101100497
It will be successful everywhere. Moralfags screeching couldn't change that. They will also secretly jerk to it anyway.
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>>101096536
If you’re triggered by Hitler getting punched, you need to see a therapist. Donald Duck and Captain America’s punched Hitler too, snowflake. Cry harder. Also Dana did like 5 different fundraisers and raised tens of thousands of dollars for charity
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>>101096542
Abortion is a good thing. For example, if you had been aborted, we wouldn’t have to see your whiny pissbaby posts
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>>101100696
>Anon thinks punching a political party that's been dead for decades isn't cringey

Hey, Dana. Nice boast about what a great do-gooder you are for charity.
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>>101100715
Cringe
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>>101100735
You forgot your Shrek picture, faggot
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>>101096542
BASED Dana
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>>101100763
S E E T H I N G
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>>101100715
To raise money for charity she can cringe all she wants. She could wear her pants on her head to Gangnam style and it would still be bro tier because it’s for a good cause
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i'm just disappointed we're going to have two threads to bumplimit in two days and the only new lewd (though good) is from a Korean guy who almost definitely hasn't been involved in any of this
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>>101100794
Oh fucking well
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>>101100715
it was in response to Charlottesville brainlet. The actual Nazi guys heiling in the streets, remember? For a dead party they sure have a lot of people shilling for them, including you
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>>101100807
>He doesn't know the difference between someone in the nazi party and someone who is a neo-nazi

Finished your summer reading already, kid?
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>>101095027
the source was posted by an "intern" in a thread yesterday. can't believe people actually believed it.
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>>101100794
>Dana’s fucking avatar has more Leeds than the Owl House characters

It’s not fair!
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>>101100949
*lewds
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>>101100949
Go commission artists to do some, cheapskate.
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>>101100949
How many OH lewds exist as of now?
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>>101100949
Well, Danas are easier to draw, and are pretty easy to adapt to whatever concept you want. Shows that aren't out yet definitely get porn in order to prove the rules of the internet correct but not as much as when the audience has a personality and voice to connect with.
Luz will get plenty of love in the future though, the threads will be nonstop waifufaggotry. Think she already has more by herself than there's been porn pics total of Welcome to the Wayne and that's been airing on TV for nearly year and existed for far longer.
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ayy lmao
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>>101100929
They believed it because they wanted to believe it
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>>101085735
This looks worse than I assumed from the poster, but I still like the character designs.
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>>101101076
Dana's Twitter seems to imply it's a mock-up, one of the producers on the show said they just approved the third storyboard so no way there's finished animation for the final show yet. There was apparently clips from a pilot that showed at whatever conference in Europe is going on right now but they aren't putting those online
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>>101101024
>Humans like gossip

Wooooahh! That's like, a revolutionary discovery, man. You should write a philosophy book!
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>>101095847
>getting mad and upset over something she even admits is hard to articulate and hard to observe/confirm
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>>101100035
>Second, and more importantly, sympathizing with the extensive LGBT+ community is like walking into a minefield.

It's really damn hard to appease people who are SEARCHING for something to draw offense from in everything that you say and do.
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>>101100211
Work ethic takes priority over nepotism.
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>>101100082
You think that but Daron can be incredibly weird to be around sometimes.
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>>101097266
Why do they always give the trans red hair?
Is like some secret code between cartoonists?
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>>101101111
S E E T H I N G
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>>101101304
It's a grand conspiracy that also ties into why spunky asian women always have neon colored hair streaks
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>>101101262
Having Starco on your mind 24/7 365 like that would make any one act like that.
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>>101100437
Don't forget, they refuse to believe that anyone east of them has ever suffered a single hardship of any kind whatsoever. And they will give you shit about the audacity to try it.
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>>101101410
Maybe you shouldn't be such a thin skinned cunt, anon.
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night everyone
bye thread
luz still loves you all
even if you have a tendency towards being faggots
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>>101100656
>Collective shame
absolute bullshit, otherwise shit like this
https://youtu.be/HYrVKLBhitE
Wouldnt fucking happen
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>>101095847
Pretty sure she just couldn't fit in because she is a toxic little shit. But given retards like her can't ever be wrong in their minds she plays the victim card...her solution is probably to create her own "inclusive" group which ironically ends ups doing what she accuses the storybros of. But hey, men are so fragile, right?
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>>101101536
So she tried to Zuke the show but instead Rashida Jones'ed out of production?
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>>101095847
>waahhh men are oppressing me by existing ;_;
>a man then gives her a chance to work on a show right out of college despite no experience and she proceeds to climb the ladder in her career in record time

wow, what a horribly oppressive life she lived.
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>>101101244
not to mention it's basically a bunch of groups tenuously in agreement only when attacked from the outside. A lot of them think others in the LGBT thing are bad or wrong or whatever oftentimes.
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>>101101475
>those hips
t-there’s nothing wrong with me for my first instinct when seeing luz to be noticing how nice and tight and compact her body shape looks..
just normal male sexuality.. anyone would see it..
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>>101100983
Only saw like one pic of Eda with big tits and hips
http://ber00.tumblr.com/post/172738608357/doodle-eda-the-witch-lady-from-the-upcoming
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>>101100656
>oh I love the japanese what a beautiful culture! ^_^
Choke on a giant log of shit, faggot.
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>>101102005
>thinking a willingness to sudoku at the drop of a hat is beautiful

No one ever said it was better, mate.
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>>101086399
It's an known old good tradition and mandatory зart of the learning.
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>>101102138
mah favrite kinda magic
LESBOMANCY
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>>101102194
I’ll do my best to learn the way of the witch, Eda!
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>>101100309
Yeah it's not a good thing to do and you'll get called in for a tongue lashing but I've never heard of this resulting in termination. It's a strike against you for sure and if you have a history of divulging information like this prematurely maybe, but if it's a one time thing it's not going to get you fired.
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>>101100439
Yikes how old is this?
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>>101101262
Her show is shit but she is harmless.




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