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Is Marvel saved?
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>>101640987
You should remain cautious
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>>101640987
It seemed like Spencer is writing for a mini, and thinks he needs to undo all of Slott in like 6 issues.
Im ok with undoing Slott.
The art is jarring though, i cant get past Invincible
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Not until Joe Quesada and Tom Brevoot leaves the Dam Marvel Industry.

Those two are the problem that are holding Marvel Greatness Back....
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>>101640987
it was already saved months ago
this is just the cherry on the cake
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>>101640987
It's just a bait & switch, now way they'll get back.
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>>101640987

Is that Ryan Ottley on art?
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>>101641048
>The art is jarring though, i cant get past Invincible
Eve's body and Anissa's mouth
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Spider-Man is going to get Man of Murdered when Mark finds out
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>It feels like something's missing
>closeup of Mary Jane's left hand
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It's bait. MJ is going to die, or they'll stick together for 6 months, before they remember those totally valid reasons that they split up in the first place
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So where does this leave Renew Your Vows?
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>>101641188

MJ must give incredible handjobs
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>>101640987
>Spends whole book shitting on pete in contrived ways
>But MJ is back

yeah nah. We still got a long way.
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Amazing Spider-Man #3 solicit:
>PETER PARKER VS. SPIDER-MAN?!

>PETER PARKER & SPIDER-MAN IN THE SAME PLACE AT THE SAME TIME?!

>• Things are crazy for Spider-Man. His personal life in turmoil, the giant TRI-SENTINEL returning to attack NYC…

>• …and someone is out there impersonating Peter Parker!

>• Is it the Chameleon? An LMD? Ultimate Peter Parker making his Marvel U debut? Think again, True Believer!

So now that the first issue is out, any theories about this?
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>>101641188
Don't forget the dreams he is having
Also:

>Spider-Man/Deadpool made a clear reference to OMD, going as far as making Peter "talk" with Mephisto
>Spectacular also is playing with the idea of a married Peter, making him facing what his life would have been if he married Gwen

It seems to me that the only one who wanted to stop this was Slott.
And Spencer is doing this from the first issue already, it's almost like the kidnapper finally released his hostages.
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>>101641237
Boomerang got a serum, back in Superior Foes, that could change your face
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>>101641048
the sooner he undoes all the bullshit the sooner he can start writing the stories he wants to write
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>>101641048
i love that he reserved a whole page just to shit on Slott's legacy
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>>101640987

Does that mean we going have to kill renew your vows universe?

If so, I can't wait for spider-verse 2.
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>>101641286
>It seems to me that the only one who wanted to stop this was Slott.
Seems pretty likely with the way he's shit on MJ and the marriage before. Dude's fucking mental.
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>>101641286
Third panel looks like he grabbed the spiderbutt.
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>>101641358
next page is Peter waking up in a bed confused
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>>101641292
>Boomerang meets Mary Jane while she is with Peter
>uses this serum and fucks her, cucking Peter in the process

Given marvel's current state, it could happen.
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Is Cyclops back?
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>>101641286
and don't forget: Mysterio has a past with hell therefore Mephisto.
And from what happens in court, i'd say he still has some connections, we'll see.
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>>101640987
Until the next status quo reset.
I've learned that it doesn't pay to get emotionally invested in Superhero comics, because status quo means you can never get closure.
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>>101641286
>>101641428
>>101641438

>tfw all the times Slott said he couldn't do it since the chiefs didn't wanted to, he was lying

i mean this shouldn't come as a surprise, but i trusted him on that
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>>101641459
last time it lasted 20 years.
i hope they don't make DC's mistakes with Superman and Lois lasting 2 years only with their kid getting aged up (like it happened with Lor-Zod already, rehashing an already bad idea, great job Bendis) and Batman whose status-quo didn't even get the chance to change
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>>101640987
I know it's cool to be cynical about Marvel and that they'll ruin this soon but this whole issue basically felt one big middle finger to MJ-less Peter. Spencer made a pretty definitive statement that Peter isn't complete without her around. You don't go saying that the last decade of Spidey comics wasn't quite right just to troll your audience down the line.

>>101641188
The fact that Marvel editorial went from wanting to remove MJ completely to this in only a few years has me convinced that this is finally going to get addressed. Way too many nods to OMD and the big villain being from hell can't be a coincidence. I'm half expecting the new guy to know that OMD happened and use it to fuck with Peter down the line.
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Will MJ have some leftover tech from Stark? Maybe give her a chance as a supporting hero with a working armor?
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so is Spencer's run decent so far?
I stopped reading slott's run soon after superior ended and never finished.

Am I good to just pick up at the start of Spencer's run or do I need to do a quick rundown of slott's?

I dropped all marvel books awhile ago except for duggan's deadpool so it would be nice to hear that marvel has a decent book again
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>>101641396
God dam it no. Im okay if an issue has her thinking Boomer isn't that bad, and Peter is jealous, as long as nothing actually happens with Boomer and MJ
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>>101640987
Have no faith. If they're including MJ again it's just so they can tear her down later or hurt or kill her or have her raped and fridged or written as a turbo slut whore for demoralization propaganda. The amount of open genocidal hatred towards redheads the comics industry has shown over the years is a pathetic disgrace.

In before some meanspirited racist hebrew says gingers don't have souls so it's okay.
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>>101641691
The first issue was shit actually. It was funny but paced as shit, it was too fast (this is acl complain I saw in slott's iron man very often), things were forced.
/co/ loved it because slott left and mj got back with Peter even if the execution is shit.
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>>101641474
Slott never wanted to do the that. He hated the marriage and MJ.
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No but nice start tho
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>>101641208
It could still go on. It's an AU, and its far enough into the future that it takes a completely different spin on the concept. The main universe Peter doesn't have a teenage daughter.
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This issue was so mind-bendingly awful it had me reeling. Fisk thinks Spider-Man jokes to earns adulation and approval, even from his enemies; despite the fact that Spider-Man only ever makes jokes at his enemies' expense to upset them and help him fight them. When the FUCK has a single joke aimed at Kingpin ever CONCEIVABLY been seen as being in service of approval? He mostly makes fun of how much of a fucking fatass he is, Spider-Man isn't a desperate, unfunny stand-up comic. I also hate how Kingpin's extremely transparent plan to drive a schism between Spidey and the hero community; you literally have 2 of Spidey's BEST FRIENDS Human Torch and Dare Devil giving him the stink eye, and the Defenders acting like pure cunts. Makes all superheroes seem like superficial high school cunts. Also Boomerang is making jokes with Randy at the bar about *being* Boomerang, and flat out tells Pete he stole those speakers! I don't understand are they supposed to know he's Boomerang? Do people just not give a fuck he's an active criminal? Also Spider-Man saying democracy was 'dumb' was ooc as fuck, Spencer's Spidey is fucking pathetic and disgusts me. I think i'll only be keeping up with plot points, thr development OP posted is good but i could not bring myself to finish the book
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>>101641048

I think the art style is perfect for spider-man
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>>101641691
Far worse than Slott, he thinks of Spidey as a pathetic unfunny permanent teenager desperate for everyone, even criminals' approval to the point of letting Boomerang get away with crimes just to spite Fisk(don't care about the Trump analogy perse but it's pretty fucking petulent and pathetic) and having Spidey say democracy sucks because Fisk won the election for mayor
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>>101640987
I love how Slott's MJ didn't want to get together with Peter because he's Spider-Man and always in danger, or whatever. And here, she doesn't even mention her problems and hooks up.

Slott's MJ made no sense when you consider her role on Iron Man.
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>>101641286
>I am the null, the void, the hell that hungers
>I am the terror that flaps in the night!
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>>101641048
Whats up with the teeth? Why are they so detailed?
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>>101642267
thats ottley, he just does that
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>>101641169
...
Was he raped?
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>>101642297
What do you think?>>101641149
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>>101642297
Yes! :D
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>>101641836
T. Contrarian
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>>101640987
Unironically yes.
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>>101641237
>• Is it the Chameleon? An LMD? Ultimate Peter Parker making his Marvel U debut? Think again, True Believer!
If it's not Chamelon, an LMD, or Ultimate Peter, then that still leaves a clone, a skrull, or any alt-universe Peter that isn't 1610 Peter.
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>>101640987
No, but Spider-Man is.
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>>101642085
Pretty sure he was strategizing if you actually read the fucking issue. He says he let Boomie get away because Fisk was really interested in the items. He didn't want the items in the hands of someone smart like Fisk.
Now he is also keeping an eye on Boomie as his roommate so its 2 for 2.
>Democracy sucks
Learn to read between the lines. He doesn't hate democracy. He is just angry that Fisk was elected in the first place. I am sure I have yelled plenty of times over things sucking if it doesnt go my way and not meaning it.
Like getting a shit mark in high school and blaming the teachers for being shit. The teachers weren't shit. I just didn't try hard enough.
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>>101640987
So are they ever going to address the deal with Mephisto or are they going to pretend it never happened like Teen Tony Stark?
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>>101641202
>MJ is going to die
Oh yeah, like how MJ was TOTALLY going to die at the end of Slott's run, right?
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>>101642595
Yeah i don't think he had Spdiey join the natsoc movement, Einstein. All of Spencer's jokes were just painfully unfunny. And I got that from Spidey's intentions concerning Fisk, it's still just as petulent as otherwise. Everyone is ooc on a core level in this issue, there isn't enough substantiation for Spidey to suspect a democratically elected Fisk of having such nefarious intentions with THAT particular item that he'd intentionally let a criminal steal some shit. It's putting the cart before the horse in terms of motivation, his characterization of Spidey was nails on a fucking chalkboard to me and ultimately the bottom line for me. Best case scenario Spencer's failure catches up with him(this book was supposedly in the works pre-secret empire) and gets booted from the book being replaced by someone actually talented like Bryan Edward Hill or something
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>>101642595
Dont bother. He's just triggered for some reason >>101642046
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>>101642677
It's just not that good, I'm glad MJ is coming back and Ottley's art is amazing but Spencer's Spidey is a fucking tool.
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>an insultingly obvious pander
>"omg i'm lierally crying right now"
capeshit fans are the worst
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>>101640987
They should have underlined and put Always in bold letters.
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>>101640987
Why does MJ look like a retard every time her mouth is open in this issue?
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>>101642795
BEcause that's how Ottley draws
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>>101641006
>>101641145
Finally some voices of reason in this shitshow. /co/ is way too quick to jump the gun.
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>>101641643
>You don't go saying that the last decade of Spidey comics wasn't quite right just to troll your audience down the line.
This is the guy who turned Steve Rogers into a Hydra sleeper agent, and who originally planned for Steve to stay that way, but had to pull a different ending out of his ass because of fan backlash.
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>>101640987
they really need to get a better artist
this doesn´t look like an Amazing Spider-Man comic
it looks like a cheap side story that has a 18 issue run at max
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>>101641169
I´m convinced that I have seen the exact same face in invisible at least once
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>>101641474
http://www.vulture.com/2018/01/dan-slott-leaving-amazing-spider-man-will-write-iron-man.html
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This was a decision that was made way long ago. I gotta feel like a jerk, because whenever someone would interview me, or whenever it would come up on panels, I would look out at people and say with a stern look that I was never leaving. Very much in the same way I was saying, “Peter Parker is never coming back. I killed him” [during The Superior Spider-Man]. I lied. I lied horribly. [Laughs.] But that’s what us storytellers do, we spin lies.
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>>101641237
I´m just crossing my fingers for no more clones or parallel universe shit
I always hated the idea that spiderman needs to have a billion copies
what´s the appeal in making your hero be nothing special?
chameleon could make for a fun storyline
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>>101641679
please no
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>>101640987
mj looks like a really stupid person that is never quit sure what is going own
it makes this whole thing look weirdly sade
like she is a retarded person that is getting exploited and she is to innocent to realize it
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>>101642956
Would be racist not to make her a hero now that she's canon black.
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>>101641237
It's Spider-Man's soul that escaped from Mephisto's grasp
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>>101641679
nah that would be stupid
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>>101642837
finally?
>>101641006
was the second fucking post
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>>101641691
First issue was good, no need to read Slott's stuff.

>>101641836
>>101642085
You two are stupid.
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Lets hope, Anon.

What are the best Spider-Man stories? Off the top of my head, I've read:
>Remender Venom
>JMS Spidey
>About 100 issues of V1 ASM
>The Gauntlet/Grim Hunt
>Waid Spidey
>Kraven's Last Hunt
>Spidey Blue

All of these have made me a fan of Gwen and not really liked MJ.
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>>101642795
I think it look better if her eyes closed.

Open-eyed laugh doesn't gel with Ottleys style
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>>101643013
the actual soul he sold is something a little more morbid than his own
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>>101640987
Why is Peter kissing Atom Eve?
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>>101640987
Is Mayday going to be aborted?
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>>101641438
Is spectacular any good?
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>>101643324
Yes, from issue #6.
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>>101642085
Hi Dan
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>>101641286
Also, Mephisto is powerless beaten and stuck at Las Vegas hellish jail, being kept by Wong and and Johnny Blaze the "New King of Hell"
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>>101641775
BASED Gingerloverposter!
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There is only one correct answer: NO
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>>101643324
yes
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>>101641679
No.
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>>101642795
I feel like comic writers are a bit wonky when it comes to personal quirks like laughing
I really doubt MJ guffaws like that
But hey, we can’t all be One Piece
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>>101643270
Who does not want kiss Atom Eve?
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>>101640987
too soon. I'll wait at least 6-7 issues.
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>>101642686
Amazing....art..?
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>>101643162
>You two are stupid.
Good to see who disagrees with me is a braindead retard.
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>>101642795
This is accurate for MJ, though.
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>>101643874
why so mad stupid?
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>>101643944
>shamelessly proving my point.
Thanks, I guess.
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>>101644022
you are welcome, stupid.
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>>101641048
>The art is jarring though, i cant get past Invincible
It's not just the art. The entire thing is Invincible in Spider-Man tights, minus the gratuitous amounts of blood. I even thought they accidentally put that grizzled white haired guy who shows up in every major battle in Invincible until I realized he was supposed to be Wolverine.
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>>101641691
The first issue was good. More enjoyable than anything Slott has written in a long long time. Some jokes felt forced like in the entirety of Slotts run (save one) but thers were felt like classic spider-man and the internal monologue was good too. The pacing was only a problem in bringing Peter and MJ back together. The lead up moments were really good but it should have been done in 3-4 issues.
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>Slott's final story arc is the entire run in a microcosm
>Sorta cool ideas that are ruined by absolutely corny fucking dialogue, bad jokes, soap opera shit, shock value death, and terrible new supporting characters
>Get this shit immediately after with more corny dialogue, bad jokes, and a writer deciding to have everyone hate Pete and have terrible shit happen to him nonstop because they have no ideas

The same shit over and over again.

MJ's back at least, I guess, maybe in five years Spider-Man will be good.
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>>101640987
Too little too late.
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>>101642297
Yes... and I don't want to make it sound too sexy, but YES.
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>>101644088
>this Spider-Man comic have things in common with a comic inspired by Spider-Man

Gee, i wonder why
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>>101640987
The Shogun came in, unsheathed his katana, and ran his sword through all the stupid shit Marvel have done in the past. MJ is also his waifu so if there's ever a chance for OMD to be undone it's right now.
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>>101641237
I'm a tad out of the loop, but what's an LMD?
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>>101644345
Life Model Decoy. A human duplicate but essentially a robot (a very convincing one).
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>>101644371
Thank you
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>>101644345

Somethign Marvel uses when they don't want to commit to death
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Realistically Spidey can't beat Mephisto alone. It's not something physical. Who shouldhelp him? I want the FF.
Fuck the avengers
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>>101644532
Mephisto is not ruler of hell any more. He's prisoned in a casino in Las Vegas with Wong as the warden. And do you think Spider-man with Other power can beat powerdd. Mephisto?
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>>101644532
Triumph and Torment and Responsibility.
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>>101640987
OMD is not getting ret-conned. This is just the new writer making it so Peter and MJ get one more chance to start their relationship anew.
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Also, didn't it get revealed that when MJ made the deal to Mephisto, he made him swear to never interfere in their relationship again should they get back together?
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>>101640987
It was a good moment I guess, but the issue was pretty retarded in a lot of points.
>Spider-Man talks about how he let a criminal go (because plot), a few pages later reiterates that the worst thing he ever did was let a criminal go
>Everyone knows Shocker's identity, the wanted criminal and murderer, including Robbie Robertson and even random bar sluts, yet he's able to live trouble-free and Robbie and pete aren't worried about aiding and abetting a criminal
>All superheroes hate Spider-Man because Kingpin tried to give him the key to the city in an extremely obvious ploy, even Johnny who would never ever give a shit about something like that
So many things that happened were obviously because Spencer wanted a certain status quo without regard to how little it makes sense.
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>>101641396

I don't think Spencer is the type to do that.
If anything he'll use this as a chance to reestablish MJ as an intelligent and competent woman like she was before Slott wrote her to be a self-centered bimbo with a sub-40 IQ.
He'll probably just do that thing Aunt May did with Chameleon. Have her pick up on the fake immedtietly, but play along until she can spring a trap, reminding the reader that she and Peter make a good team, and that MJ is fully capable of holding her own in fucked situations.
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>>101644784
MJ did that with the chameleon first. And it wasn't even a trap, she straight up beat him unconcious with a bat.
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>>101640987
>Superman isn’t allowed to be with Lois because DC hates them together and says it ruins the character
>Marvel puts Peter and MJ back together
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>>101641508

It's been ten years since OMD, and Spider-Man sales never fully recovered. People still regularly bring it up and shit on it, and everyone hates the majority of his other love interests that aren't classic Peter love interests like Felicia.
They might be ready to accept now that a married Peter Parker IS the status quo. It's also possible that certain individuals high up in editorial have finally realized their personal feelings on what other people write don't matter, all that matters is that they maintain integrity, and that they're out of touch.
But I doubt that last part.
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>>101642085
>and having Spidey say democracy sucks because Fisk won the election for mayor

This is a pretty common statement to utter when your candidate loses and some obvious slimeball gets in instead. It's a pretty human reaction to curse a system that usually works on the occasions it doesn't.
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>>101644532

Peter and MJ should do it together.
This is a metaphysical threat that needs to be overcome through emotional and mental trials, leaning on each other to fix a mistake they made in the face of absolute evil.
It's not something that can or should just be punched away.
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>>101640987
I don't know about Marvel. From what I've seen, Spencer is a younger guy, and loves Spidey. I want to believe that unlike his first issue on Cap, he isn't trying to subvert Pete. From starting out with the Pre-OMD reference, I think he wants to reestablish the status quo that isn't necessarily Pete and MJ married again as much as they are together, with MJ not being written by an author who clearly can't stand her like Slott seemed to.

I think Nick grew up around the same time as most of us, and therefore his perception of the Spidey world is probably like what most of us grew up seeing. Pete will eternally suffer from Parker luck, and the world will always feel like he can never keep it from falling around him, but as long as he has MJ in his corner to keep him from falling, he'll always be able to come back from whatever the world throws his way.

It's a big reason why I wasn't at all bothered with everything else going wrong because things will always go wrong from him. As long as he has MJ with him though, everything will be alright.
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>>101645148
>grew up around the same time as most of us
Did you just assume my age?
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>>101644035
At least you admit you're wrong.
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>>101645185
Not as much as the general age range of the statistical bell curve of individuals who still use this site.
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>>101645148
The whole Parker Enterprise or whatever the fuck its called is such a big mistake, it changes the status quo irreversably. With the way sliding timescales work, Spider-Man will always have been an Elon Musk billionaire celebrity just a year ago in-universe.
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>>101644278
>>101642313
(And that's a good thing!)
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>>101644650
I'll take what I can get.
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>>101645221
I'd wager he could have been more between a KONY 2012 organizer who kept his dick in his pants past his 15 minutes and Elon until he was able to put some infrastructure up a bit, before having his very public downfall that was more salvageable and drawn out than being caught jacking it in San Diego, which culminated in the accusation of plagiarism, yesterday.

In this age of VC being thrown around at speculative investments everywhere, a tech corp rising out of a compromised think tank, being placed in the Baxter Building that had been in need of tenants has a lot of indicators of a risky investment that expanded out of its ideal economy of scale too soon and collapsed.
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>>101645332
The company produced super-advanced technology that literally everyone owned. He was a millionaire genius playboy philanthropist. His face was splashed everywhere, even fucking internationally
>expanded out of its ideal economy of scale too soon and collapsed.
It was an extremely successful company, except Peter decided to remotely blow up literally every product they ever made because shitty comic book plots.
Any attempt to sweep the fact that Peter was an honest to god millionaire celebrity under the rug is necessary but completely unrealistic. This would literally colour his whole life from that point onwards.
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>>101645417
Not in a comic book where someone like Fisk is mayor (or Osborn). And the fact that even in real life celebrities get forgotten quite quickly.
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>>101640987
You guys think Mary Jane misses Bobby Carr? You know, the guy for which she was traveling from LA to NY every week just to sleep with him.

The guy was probably the man Mary Jane loved the most in her whole life, considering that she never did for Peter what she was doing for Bobby.

Mary Jane should be with Bobby. Peter is clearly just her consolation prize.
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>>101645448
You should try to get a girlfriend yourself, Slott
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>>101645448
>that spacing
You should go back
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>>101645444
It would still be the focus of any interaction with anyone he mets for at least the next twenty years. He is irrevocably no longer the every-guy.
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>>101645483

I think you over-estimate how many people know Elon Musk's face, or even his name and what he does.
The same will apply to Peter, especially now that he isn't doing anything at all.
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>>101645417
>It was an extremely successful company
There would need to be good bones for people to be willing to throw money at him. Unless it was explicitly dictated how his expansion was funded, chock it up to predatory Venture Capitalists, which was accepted due to a lack of business savvy on Pete's part, as well as his being unavailable to exert his pressure during board meetings because of his being out webswinging. Stuff like that has happened to Bruce Wayne at least a few times at this point. Was it successful? Absolutely. When Pete decided to go full "Weapons manufacturer isn't going to manufacture weapons," the VCs came and devoured and salvaged everything they could. Hell, when honest to god millionaires stop doing what made them millionaires, they usually walk away with enough assets to maintain a lesser degree of the Millionaire quality of life, but in Pete's case he wasn't even able to do that because he needed to fall back on his accrued wealth to buy off what was left to the VCs. Is it just like what you would see happen in real life? Not exactly, but never forget that we're talking comic books. Is your concern that this ages him, or that it makes reattaining a previous status quo unbelievable?
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>>101645540
Dude, if Elon Musk started selling tabloid photos, or working as a high school teacher, or started dating, it wouldn't be the first thing people in any of those roles would bring up?
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>>101645448

You mean the same Bobby who she dated for a few weeks and then immediately left for the cops when she found out he was taking illegal growth hormone drugs?
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>>101645597
If in a few weeks she was already doing for Bobby what she wasn't willing to do for Peter when they were married, that only gives strength to the Bobby/MJ pairing.
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>>101645540
Elon Musk helped create PayPal which was used by millions as early as the late 90's or early 2000's if we're gonna be generous. The guy cameo ed in Iron Man 2 in 2010. I didn't know who he was or what he looked like until about a year before Colbert had him on The Late Show his first week hosting, and introduced him as a real life Tony Stark. Had he lost his wealth, and disappeared from public living, I never would have known who he was, what he looked like, or what he had done to create the wealth he had before losing it.
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>>101640987
Will K-Box’s sanity finally be saved?
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>>101645569
My concern is that it makes reattaining the previous status quo unbelievable. No man that was at his level could ever become an absolute nobody again. I don't even mean there'd always be tabloids following him or crowds running after him, but going on a date and the girl not mentioning it is unrealistic. Getting a new shitty lowpaying job and every single coworker not wondering what the fuck Peter Parker the billionaire is doing in their hotdog stand is unrealistic. Telling basically anyone his name and not having them bring it up or at least double take is unrealistic.
It's simply way too big to move past, its not like Peter changing roommates at the start of a new writer's run.
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I'm just not a fan of the whole back to school part of it. Would prefer if Doc just got salty that Pete was using his accomplishments and publicly revealed that he was mind controlling Pete when he got his doctorate and the 100% match for Octopus came up when people tried to verify that claim.
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>>101645578
See this guy >>101645641
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>>101641084
Aaron is even worse than them
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>>101645680
I don't buy it. He was all over the newspapers, television, major events and the media, just going by the comics.
And as I said, Parker Industry's extremely public downfall, including blowing up all of their electronics in people's faces, will perpetually have occured about a year ago at most.

It really is like the Simpsons Frank Grime episode
>Hey Aunt May, remember the time I was a billionaire global jetsetter with a multibillion dollar company literally named after me and my face splashed everywhere globally? Boy, it sure is hard being little old everyman Peter Parker!
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>>101641428
that page has a lot of feels
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>>101645649
Even if most of those people already new him?

I mean you have a point, but in this case, with what Pete is trying to do, most of those people who you are saying would be asking those questions knew him before, during, and after, and in many cases have the authority to tell subordinates who might ask not to. The girl he'd go out on a date in this case is a woman who he had been romantically involved with, who also maintained the familiarity. The one instance instance where the history doesn't apply, referenced his being the former head of Parker Industries just as you suggest they would.

I fail to see where basing a forecast on what Spencer did in the first issue, and how he presented the people and reality around Pete, how you are unable to reconcile a fallen corporate leader living normally again with the only thing separating him from you or I being his reputation of being such a fuck up that he had the world by a string and lost it all.

The question I would ask though, is this: Given what we know about "Parker Luck," isn't the peak representation of that being it taking a break to allow Pete to rake up some wins, before it coming back with vengeance and taking them all away from him?

I mean, if you want to talk about unbelievably, no one is that unfortunate unless they have Felicia Hardy following them around 24/7.
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I'll give it three issues before /co/ is already back to whining what a hack the writer is.
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>>101645811
He's not actually been that unrealistically unfortunate given he spends half his waking hours disappearing into a black hole as far as his civilian life is concerned.
I wasn't talking about Spencer's run either, I was talking about Peter Parker the character, forever. The way comics work, ten years from now, even twenty years from now, Parker Industries will still have collapsed only a couple of years ago. By that point, Parker Industries will be such an annoying elephant in the room, as it would realistically still be coming up all the time, but what writer would even want to waste a single panel talking about it?
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>>101645578
>Elon Musk
More like Enlil.
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easy way to solve all this peter parker, former billionaire nonsense is to have mephisto undo omd and everything that happened since then struck from reality and everyones memory.
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Wasn't the whole reason behind OMD that they had to try and find a way to undo Peter revealing his identity in Civil War? They had to make everyone forget who he was again. Undoing the marriage was just Quesada not letting a crisis go to waste.
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>>101645894
>The way comics work, ten years from now, even twenty years from now, Parker Industries will still have collapsed only a couple of years ago.

If we're going by the sliding time scale, how did Parker Industries exist any longer than a month?

I mean didn't the rise and fall of Parker Industries take place over 2 years, tops?

How significant could it really have been in such a short amount of relevance?

You are absolutely right.
>He was all over the newspapers, television, major events and the media, just going by the comics.

So was this guy. He was in the limelight for a few years actually, to the same degree as what you described. Where is he now?

I don't want to go all sociology on you, but the downside of our celebrity crazed culture is that if you don't keep yourself in the limelight, there will always be someone else whether they be new or old who does, and while you may have been the brightest light in the room for a time, unless people were ever significantly invested in you, it'll be incredibly easy for you to be forgotten as those who were only ever casually interested move on to who is the new face being lit up by camera flashes.
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>>101646064
>Wasn't the whole reason behind OMD that they had to try and find a way to undo Peter revealing his identity in Civil War?
Yeah, then wasn't OMIT them actually explaining how Peter's identity was actually made to be forgetten within the new canon, which in reality is just what they should have done instead of OMD?
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>>101646098
I feel like the wretchedness of OMD is merely a subset of how badly Civil War fucked Marvel. You can make an argument that the Marvel Universe STILL hasn't recovered from the damage Civil War did.
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>>101646078
>How significant could it really have been in such a short amount of relevance?
Extremely significant, going by the comic. Mental gymnastics to justify a stupid writing decision is not smart or intelligent.
By the way, you're deluding yourself if you think the fact that that dude was in Avatar doesn't come up in 60% of his conversations with new people. He's been forgotten, but he'll never be so forgotten that he would ever go back to his old status quo of 'random guy that people don't bring up Avatar to' which is exactly my point.
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>>101641775
Gingers aren't red heads, there are more faggots in the world than red heads, let along attractive ones. Its like fucking unicorns.
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>>101646143
>You can make an argument that the Marvel Universe STILL hasn't recovered from the damage Civil War did.
One. Hundred. Percent.
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>>101646064
>>101646098
>>101646143
Brainlets, it was the other way round. Throughout the whole story, the secret identity thing was an afterthought.
Dr. Strange just waved his fingers and made everyone forget who Spider-Man was, because apparently it was that easy. Mephisto didn't even come into it.
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Is is okay for mephisto to job to peter in a fist fight ?
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>>101646154
>Gingers aren't red heads
Are you fucking retarded. Thats literally what redhead means, no one is actually born with literally red hair
there are more faggots in the world than red heads
You are correct, only because all gingers are red heads, and there's barely any gingers in the world.
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>>101643643
Only the thicc eve
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>>101645190
i'm admitting you are stupid
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that mj looks so wierd,theres something really wrong in how the artist makes her face
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>>101641474
It makes me wonder if it came up and he wondered if it was mandatory and they told him to do whatever he wanted to do because
>editors
Though I wouldn't put it past him to be lying, and I also wouldn't put it past Marlel for this to be another bait and switch. I guess only time will tell.
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>>101642929
Wow, what a completely pompous dildo. Imagine being the interviewer in this.
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>>101642929
Literal moffatisms
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I'm still desecrating Slott's grave when he dies.
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>>101640987
Why is atom eve kissing spooderman?
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>>101641438
I hate Peter's sister.
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>>101644908
>It's also possible that certain individuals high up in editorial have finally realized their personal feelings on what other people write don't matter, all that matters is that they sell copies of ASM.
Fixed that for you.
It's become obvious that OMD is such a point of contention that it hurts sales far beyond whether MJ and Peter are married. People will not let it go that he made a deal with Mephisto, and shitting the blame to MJ didn't do shit.
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>>101647349

I don't mind her.
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>>101647349
Most likely will get retconned again with a new writer
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>>101647349
Why?
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>>101647968
She's boring, and secret siblings suck.
I could deal if she had a personality and was a cousin or something. But then we'd have to ask why Rich and Ben's or Mary's sibling was never brought up before.
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>>101641169
Is this moons over june?
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>>101641048
Yeah, it's weird without gore or floating intestines.
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>>101647349
she is fine, i'm glad Zdarsky didn't made her another spider totem and instead kept her spy side going
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>>101640987
Let’s remain cautiously optimistic. Remember, his Steve Cap book opened on a shocking twist and that story ended up being shit by the end
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>>101648124
He's had relatives like that introduced before, but they were all from May's side of the family and thus of no blood relation.




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