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Is it because he's an Incel Power Fantasy?
>Fascist
>"muh Word of DOOM is LAAAAAAW"; despite not making a lick of sense
>no motives or anything besides "muh Doomworld's gonna be the bestest thing ever"
>momma's boy
>sexist
>racist
>hasn't had a single serious relationship, making it easier for virgins to self-insert
>dicklet rage
>legit autism
>"muh 2nd best at EVERYTHING"; see, he's BOTH reletable AND great!
>"muh faaaaaaace"; perfectionist narcissim steeming from an inferiority complex, which lots of incels suffer from, since they cannot cope with their failures
>"muh Christ"
>"muh European Traditions and Customs are superior"
Literally why do people like such a backwards and problematic character, who's pretty much paper-thin, characterization wise?
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A lot of people like him ironically, his behavior is very similar to supervillain parodies and old School villains
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Do you realize that your obsession with a fictional character isn't normal, Tommy?
You should really see someone, i'm not even joking.
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>>102262908
He's evolved since the, into everything that is wrong with this hobby.
>>102263014
Who's Tommy? Is he some Ultra-Doomfag?
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>>102262863
You do realize that Batman is worst, right?
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>>102263063
Literally how?
>has no problem fucking women of other races
>has a mixed race son
>took care of a black boy
>takes care of his city
>has adopted many boys and girls
>fights corruption
>fights for freedom
Doom is like, the opposite of it all.
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>>102262863
You make this thread every other day, how can you possibly not know why people like him yet?
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>>102262863
>problematic character

Into the trash you go
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>>102263164
>You make this thread every other day
What? I just wrote this, because I see the people on all other Doom Threads stroking his cock, and it weirds me out.
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>>102263014
This is Starkfag, not your reddit boogeyman.
He likes to make threads pretending his favorite characters (Tony Stark and Dr. Doom) are super problematic, and pathetic, and sad, and all sorts of self-pitying shit.
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>>102263250
>He likes to make threads pretending his favorite characters (Tony Stark and Dr. Doom) are super problematic, and pathetic, and sad, and all sorts of self-pitying shit.
See, that's what I'm talking about. Incels live through that. That Stark guy sounds exactly like what I'm describing. Future Shooter.
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Doom is an old school villain.

He is a Monarch, not a dictator.
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It's funny, I was just writing "terrible moderation that wouldn't know a shitty thread if it hit them in the face" in the "What are the biggest problems facing your selected board(s)? How do you think they can be addressed?" part of the janitor application and the very next thing I see when I come to /co/ is this thread still not deleted. Good job proving me right, mods
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>>102263558
>He is a Monarch, not a dictator.
He literally has Robots going around enforcing the """peace""". He has guillotines. There are no elections. He IS a Fascist.
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>>102263232
Yeah sure you did
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>>102263611
I'm not that Tommy guy that anon mentioned.>>102263014
Or that Starkfag.>>102263250
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>>102263604
It works. What’s freedom ever done for the USA? The laughingstock of the world? Those people can’t even stop themselves from changing who’s in charge every 4-8 years. You see any SJWs in Latveria? BOOM! Checkmate.
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>>102262863
They like him for the same reasons people like Brolly or Bane. He’s a writers pet constantly held up as this incredibly competent and unstoppable force.
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>>102263773
>wanna dress like a proper person
>LOL FUCK NO TRAD'S THE WAY!
>Doombots imprison you
>wanna take pride in being gay and fighting your opressors
>LO FUCK NO GAYS ARE DEGENERATE AND DOOOOOOOOM DOES NOT ALLOW PARADES
>Doombots detain and kill you
>wanna talk about different politics
>LOL FUCK NO WORD OF DOOOOOOOM IS LAW
>Doombots rape you to death
See where I'm going with this?
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>>102263799
Doom's different thought. Those are other guys are just strong and competent power fantasies.Doom's inherenty political.
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>>102262863
Because he looks cool and is a badass technowizard. Also he's a huge ham.
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Yeah but he's a filthy fucking gypsy so don't lump /pol/acks with him.
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FUCK OFF, JOSS.
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>>102263805
Sounds like Doom has the right idea.
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>>102263805
Oh wow. No conflict or any of that trans person bs.
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he looks really cool for a villain but yeah thats it,in the current state of the world a character like him does more harm than good
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>>102263805
>muh Gay rights

Simone, go back to getting shouted at by hermaphrodites on Twitter
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>>102262863
Name a villain who's not paper-thin, characterization wise. Becuase for me, Doom being driven by his own beliefs instead of dumb hunger for power is a pretty neat hook.

On a side note, how can you even make a character deep without giving them insecurities and inner conflicts?
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>>102263969
Even ifhe is, he's self-hating and identifies with his opressive, backwards, Eastern European Culture.Only playing the Gypsy Card when it suits him. Hell, the guy's white as snow, so he might not even be a Romani. Merely from some leftover Noamdic Eurogroup that culturally appropriates the plight of others to come off as sympathetic.
>>102264026
Everyone deserves equal rights.Yet Doom probably wouldn't even let a blackperson migrate, let alone marry his daughter.
>>102264037
He's got no motivation past "muh world of DOOOOM". At least Luthor's some weird AnCap, Ivy's an EcoTerrorist, Manta's autistic, etc, etc.
>On a side note, how can you even make a character deep without giving them insecurities and inner conflicts?
But he has none, that's the point. He's just a Power Fantasy for Incels, yet comes off as ridiculous.
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>>102264064
Doom does as he pleases, and he's a huge chad while doing so. That's his motivation.
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>>102264064
>But he has none, that's the point
>lists a shit ton of Doom's insecurities and inner conflicts in OP
>lol he doesn't have any
Are you trolling or just stupid?
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>>102264099
You can never know with /co/- Cartoons and Leftypol
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>>102263604

And yet he's still unironically the best thing to have happened to Latveria in centuries.

He uses robot police because they are uncorruptible. There are no elections because the vast majority of his people are simple and uneducated, a single generation removed from being serfs serving a two-bit baron with a fetish for old world rural architecture.

He uses a guillotine because its traditional, because the people like their traditions, and really if you are going to execute someone its still one of the more humane ways to do it.

Latveria is so, so much better off under Doom than under the guy he replaced. The people love him for a reason.
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>>102264099
What insecurities?What inner conflicts? negative traits don't make for "insecurities". List them for me.
>>102264145
Maybe for a bunch of shitty Slavs. But why should he spread his disease to the rest of the Free World. Imagine a progressive place like France under him. Families would be seperated, Black Frenchmen would be sent back to the colonies, feminism would go back decades.
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Guys, the OP literally calls Doom "problematic". This is a bait thread. Report, hide and move on.
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>>102264275
What else do you want me to call him? He'snot offensive, he's just a dumb power fantasy, that is inherently political,and thus, problematic.
>>102264110
Why would I not be serious?
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>>102262863
To put it vaguely, stories are written to explore different ideas and beliefs by representing them through character's. Doom is a great example of that. His greatest strength is when his totalitarian beliefs are being written as ideas with distinct cause and reason behind them, instead of a strawman. It's so powerful because it represents one of the greatest conflicts since the beginning of 20th century: dictatorship vs democracy. 99% of pop culture stories being written nowadays inevitably ends with a pro-democracy moral. Because that's really the most convenient and profitable way in short term, and because everyone wants freedom. Even /pol/acks here don't actually believe in fascism from an ideological standpoint, they just dream of power over others. But Doom represents a different side. Doom is not supposed to think short-term, like all the good guys do ("save 1 person and let villain go" is largely favored over "let person die, kill a villain and save more potential victims"). He thinks about the potential greater good and how, to achieve that, a greater degree of control over people is required. That, of course, raises a bunch of questions: why should he be the one to hold all the control? Can't greater good be achieved through other means? But amongst these questions, there is the crucial one: MAYBE Doom is right? MAYBE persinal freedom in a state doesn't automatically equal greater good? Nobody really knows for sure, but Doom, as a concept, stands against the commonly accepted norms and laws of freedom, but he doesn't stand as just another selfish megalomaniac, but rather as a man with a distinct plan and compass, acknowledging that, however mass media doesn't want you to believe that, democracy may just not be such a sacred untouchable cow of a regime, and not everyone opposing it is a funny strawman, but rather, a proof of this world complexity and ambiguity. That's Doom's greatest strength.
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>>102264328
To expand on this anon's post, everyone should watch LotGH.
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>>102264328
>a greater degree of control over people is required
Why though? Every time someone tries to control something too tightly, the people rebel. Either because they want to be on top, or because they're tired of being opressed. What happens when Doom establishes space colonies? What happens when he dies?Even if he's the perfectruler, how can he know for sure, that his vision will be implemented? What happens if his daughter falls in love with some black guy? Will he put black grandkids to the throne?
>>102264374
That's not good either, since the worst democracy is just a thinly veiled autocracy.
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>>102264261
momma's boy
>sexist
>racist
>hasn't had a single serious relationship, making it easier for virgins to self-insert
>dicklet rage
>legit autism
>"muh 2nd best at EVERYTHING"; see, he's BOTH reletable AND great!
>"muh faaaaaaace"; perfectionist narcissim steeming from an inferiority complex, which lots of incels suffer from, since they cannot cope with their failures
Loterally none of these things (although you clearly made some of them up, someone post that panel where Doom scolds Dracula for his racism) are possible without insecurities that spawn such beliefs.
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>>102263773
The fact that the liberal democracies of the world are still surviving and thriving and literally all the major fascist societies failed and died by the end of the 20th century is proof enough what freedom has done.
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>>102264443
liberal democracies account for what, 1/8 of the earth's population?
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>>102264064
>coal burner

Ewww
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>>102264429
>>sexist
Constantly slaps women around.
>>racist
Hudlin's BP. He went out of his way to make it clear it wasn't a Doombot.
>>hasn't had a single serious relationship, making it easier for virgins to self-insert
Kidnapped a brainwashed Wanda, Morgan used him.
>>dicklet rage
Well yeah, what other explaination is there?
>>legit autism
What's the problem?
>>"muh 2nd best at EVERYTHING"; see, he's BOTH reletable AND great!
That's literally his thing.
>>"muh faaaaaaace"; perfectionist narcissim steeming from an inferiority complex, which lots of incels suffer from, since they cannot cope with their failures
Again, that's pretty clear.
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>>102264486
Yeah and they have the best quality of life, technology and complete media/cultural monopoly. Whereas people under fascist regimes suffered horribly unless you were part of the government and their societies collapsed like the pathetic houses of cards that they were.
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Because he's a classic villain archetype taken to 11 and yet he still manages to semi-regularly become an antihero who is quite valuable to the heros
Most 'classic villain' type of villains never really go that way. Look at Norman Osborne. Closest he ever got to anti-hero status was Dark Reign. And he still fucked it up and wasnt really an anti-hero, he was just a selfish asshole biding his time to go full villain again.
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>>102264489
>oh no, black men are fitter, more beautiful and smarter than me, while also being better loves and having bigger dicks
>it's women's fault for not fucking my incel ass
WEW!
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>>102264397
Regimes fail when rulers become consumed by their personal needs and desires at the expense of others, and the entire point of the regime is forgotten. But I'm pretty sure Doom has endured a great load of suffering for his causes and certainly wouldn't commit a such a blatant mistake.
>What happens when Doom establishes space colonies?
Considering Marvel's usual pseudo-sci-fi shenanigans, that doesn't seem too far-fetched for doom to be able to control.
>What happens when he dies?
He's a crazy scientist with hundreds of robot duplicates, of course his mind lives on.
>What happens if his daughter falls in love with some black guy? Will he put black grandkids to the throne?
I don't really see why not, considering they fit Doom's criteria. Doomwar was a huge conflict between Wakanda and Latveria, but Doom was never really racist in there.
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>>102264493
These things are insecurities tho
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>>102264499
i think it's a bit early for you to celebrate. china is effectively a fascist power and the average quality of life there is skyrocketing. it wouldn't take much for the stability in western europe to collapse. for a system to be proven best it needs to flourish for more than a century. i'm not a proponent of an authoritarian society, but i think you aren't considering how unstable our world really is.
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>>102264558
>Doom was never really racist in there
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>>102262863

Keep it up OP, the turnover rate for overused words is ever-increasing. You cant even use "nazi" after folks like Ben Shapiro (an effeminate jew conservative) or I even saw it used against Bernie Sanders.

I predict "incel" will become such a broad insult, someone will use it against Leo DiCaprio for banging a never-ending stream of 20-something models and yet another word will be rendered impotent.
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>>102264606
That's really the problem of different writers from different decades having no synergy. But even in here, Doom is only racist towards Wakandiands because he thinks of their culture as savage and primitive. If a black man was raised under Doom's cultural guidance (hypothetical black grandson situation), there really wouldn't be a problem for him.
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>>102263821
It's still a power fantasy. It's just a power fantasy based on charisma and intellect as well as raw strength.
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>>102264731
>If a black man was raised under Doom's cultural guidance (hypothetical black grandson situation), there really wouldn't be a problem for him.
Yeah, I'm sure the guy obsessed with Fairytale Germany, growing up as an Eastern Yuropoor Gypsy is VERY progressive in that regard...
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>>102262863
Doom is the fantasy that you can be a giant selfish prick and still be for the greater good because wouldn't you know it, somehow through the power of writer fiat your selfish desire to hold a grudge against that one guy in college and turn your country into your 19th century eastern europe playset with your own gaudy castle and gunpla collection in the middle is somehow going to work out for the greater good. A panther god said so!

Doom is what every antisocial neet asshole wants to be. He's a guy that can do whatever the fuck he wants and still be worshiped by his neighbors as the last best hope for humanity.
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>>102264783
Is Morrison the only writer to ever call out Doom for being a giant man child that transformed his country into his own Disney park complete with castle and walk around Doombots?
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>>102264890
Probably. The Left wants to claim Doom as their perfect Ultra-Progressive Leader, for some reason.
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>>102264804
>>102264890
I hate that writers since Byrne have done nothing but suck Doom’s dick. Stan and Jack were fine with having Doom get called out for being crazy and Ben beating him 1v1.

Doom should be depicted as creepy and scary, a deranged obsessive who commands respect and authority through brutality because it’s the only way anyone would respect him. He’s a bitter little boy that never grew up and hides his social incompetence by talking like how he thinks adults talk with big sweeping statements dripping with ego.

He hates Reed because while Reed shares his childlike wonder at the cosmos Reed grew up and had a family. And that’s something Doom will never have. He can only make things to love him, either cringing subjects or robots. He can never actually be loved.

“Dark European Fairytale” is how Doom should be treated. A little bit of Peter Pan, a little bit of Gepetto, I think something really poignant could be written about Doom if writers just stopped sucking him off.
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I love villain Doom, but whenever the writers try to create a scenario that implies he's actually a batter hero than the heroes of give him a fantasy reality where he makes the world perfect, I start to lose interest.
If he really is perfect then I think he becomes a lot less interesting as an ego.
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>>102262863
>marvel team up doom leads Johnny and Ben around by the nose and they just take it like puppies.
>Ben just letting Doom shit talk him
>After everything he’s done
>After Ben broke his pride and made him silent with humiliation and only stopped short of killing him because Reed told him to stop
I hope Scott will stop the continual Doom dick riding we’ve been having since Hackman, but judging by issue 1 I guess not.
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>>102262863
People like doom because he is campy.
Now go back to buzzfeed.
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>>102264328
based

>>102262863
sòyboy
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>>102265014
That's a near perfect analysis anon, and pretty much sums up most of my grips with the the character. The problem with him is that he gets sucked off by two camps. The classic nerd who sees him as an escapist fantasy. "If I was in charge, I'd fix everything", they think. One the other, you have the classic Lefties, who see in him some sort of "leader", for whatever reason. They HC as some queer guy that has orgies with genderfluid panromantics, and all he wants is to bring peace and destroy borders.

Both miss the fact that Doom's still a villain, and all of his actions are petty and childish. He never outgrew a toddler's behavior, and so he lashes out. And it actually makes him a pretty complex character. He didn't have the luxuries of the US, so he responds by trying to prove that Traditionalism is better. He envies Reed's family and the fact that he had scientific relatives, giving him a headstart, that he makes up stories of long-lost royal bloodlines. He is jealous of Stark being both smart and social, having friends and relationships. So he withdraws in himself and doesn't let anyone get close, using the excuse of greatness, while in reality he's just afraid and insecure.

Truth is, Doom's the very nature of a person feeling so inferior, that he wants to prove his superiority no matter what. He doesn't live for himself, in a way. He lives to win the approval of everyone and everything. All the while trying to force the world to be what he wants it to be. It's honestly a pretty interesting duality, but everyone misses it.

It's why I think it would've been better if his folks never died. Pretty much everyone has dead parents as a motivator. What if Vic was just... born damaged? I think it'd be interesting to have him face his parents, simple folks, after he's turned himself into this metal monster,devoid of empathy, or anything beyond greed and insecurity.
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>>102264328
>Autistic manchild that refers to himself in the 3rd person and makes the world better through writer fiat
>deep character
He’s as deep as Brolly.

Or please, just try to tell me how a giant play set castle and army of military police robots and spending giant sums of money to try and fail to kill 4 Americans by shooting their home into space is supposed to work toward the common good?
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Writers took the idea that he was fighting for his own convictions, turning moral grey area into chances to validate him as being right or logically or even morally superior, focusing so much on that part of his character that I feel part of him as been left behind in the process. The implications of things like that what-if where he makes the world into a utopia is that he's the best thing ever and he'd make the world a better place if the other characters weren't so mean to him... and at that point I feel like you've missed the point of him as a villain.
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>>102265236
When was the last time Doom was actually trying to kill FF?
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>>102263773
See. This is why Doom sucks. He brings the cryptofascists out of the wood work.
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>>102264064
Show me a canon source of Doom being racist against nignogs?
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>>102264890
Which book did he do that in?
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>>102265320
Fantastic Four 1 has Doom vow to get back at the Fantastic Four for Reed trying to brainwash him into being good.

That's another thing I hate about modern Fantastic Four. For being Marvel's first family they sure do a lot of fucked up shit like leaving Valeria with Dr. Doom, the man that's tried to kill and hurt her family for years and Reed keeping secrets from everyone.

Remember that issue where Reed and Sue lose their kids to child services because they suck that hard at being good parents? Yeah. Slott has an uphill battle ahead to make me like the Fantastic Four as a family again.
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>>102265367
F4: 1234
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>>102265363
banter doesn't count
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>>102265264
It doens't help that writers never draw a convincing line from Doom being a totalitarian manchild to him bringing about utopia besides handwaving it away with super science or magic. It all just rings hollow to say that Doom would create a utopia so you have to invent shit like the panther go to justify it.

It's like saying Tony Stark would make a utopia if people just elected him god king and sucked his dick.
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>>102264261
>progressive place like France
Have you been to France lately? It’s been ruined by being progressive. Muslims aren’t letting women eat in restaurants, stopping them in public when they are unattended, having rallies to try and force sharia themes into law, almost sounds like feminism has been sent back decades. Probably a great if you’re male though. I’m sure Doom would clean that place up.
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>>102265363
lol holy shit
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>>102265380
>Morrison is the only modern writer to actually get Dr. Doom
Fucking based.
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>>102265014
I mean, Reed is also a cosmic threat by virtue of being the equivalent of an autistic god... but that's neither here or there.
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>>102265390
Why the fuck would character dialogue not count?
Does he have a whip a wakandan or something?
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>>102265380
Another thing modern writers don't get about Doom is that the most satisfying thing in the world is for Reed's family to beat him, not Reed himself.

Thing breaking his spirit was absolute kino in the Stan and Jack run.
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>>102265423
>Reed is a cosmic threat by virtue of being an autistic god
Remember when Marvel heroes were good people?
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>>102265380
Fucking roastie bullying my incel fantasy
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>>102262863
What is so hard to get here?
>constantly in the wrong
>treats his word as law
>considers everybody else as inferior
>most bloated ego in existence
>never backs down no matter what
Doom is an asshole with a petty vendetta against a single man. he's a brilliant villain because he's so bad it's good
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>>102265429
because Doom only says racist stuff to trigger wakanda
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>>102265482
How is that being racist to piss off another race not genuine racism?
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>>102264606
He’s literally complementing them. They are meant to be an African archetype. The worst he does is call them savages, because of this parrelel. Seriously? That’s all you have?

>>102265363
Tchalla is the one being racist here?
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>>102265380
This destroys the Hickman.
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>>102265520
>Tchalla is the one being racist here?
How on earth did you construct that perspective?
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>>102265515
Because if the only time you say “fish man are gay” is when you are fighting Aquaman and you don’t really hate fishmen, are you really racist? No, you’re just a villain. But by all means, keep thinking your pathetic headcanon though
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>>102265547
Because, Dooms sentence had a full stop. He wasn’t going to continue. It was a backhanded compliment. It was Tchalla who sees racism everywhere and couldn’t possibly believe Doom could respect his race, Tchallas got little man syndrome and covers it up by crying racism
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>>102265547
Doom negs T'Challa, T'Challa implies that Wakandans are in fact, the master race. This is just standard taunting.
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>>102264587
communist.
its a communist power.
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>>102264064
>Hell, the guy's white as snow, so he might not even be a Romani.
Romanipen isn't based on race you ignorant clod.
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>>102263604
Okay, but maybe some forms of fascism work.
You're not afraid of uncomfortable ideas are you, anon? Surely truth and reason can defend themselves in confrontation with error, so what's the problem?
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>>102262863
>muh
You can go back now with all the other tourists
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>>102263805
>take pride in being gay
Straight people don't go out of their way to take pride in NOT having a cock in their ass, so why should the inverse be so worthy of respect?
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>>102265380
Why in God's name hasn't Reed done any of the things she's accusing him of?
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>>102265654
Yeah, okay man.
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>>102266218
He's busy making entire fucking universes with his son.
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>>102265380
I really fucking hate Morrison's moralizing sometimes. His characters always say a mostly reasonable moral position but the problem is that they often only win by overwhelming force. Right Makes Might is not a counter to Might Makes Right it is a farce.
Has there ever once been a cape comic where the cretinous bully is rightfully called out but doesn't get his face smashed in?
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>>102266440
He's writing traditional comic books, besting the badguy is often a satisfying conclusion. That's not even a Grant Morrison quirk really.
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>>102264443
Why do you like School Shooters so much?
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>>102264499
Shut up, Trump. You and your country are awful and in debt. Have fun with #Calexit
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>>102265614
>Dooms sentence had a full stop. He wasn’t going to continue.
He literally reacts like "haha you got me".
Tchalla isn't even the one to finish his sentence anyways.
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>>102264397
>What happens when Doom establishes space colonies? What happens when he dies?Even if he's the perfectruler, how can he know for sure, that his vision will be implemented? What happens if his daughter falls in love with some black guy? Will he put black grandkids to the throne?
That's literally the point of some of the stories about him. Like not so long ago he left Latveria unattended and it crumbled without him. Add to this his bout with Richards for godhood when Doom acknowledged that he may actually be not as intelligent and that led to him donning an Iron Man costume. There are other stories where Doom struggles with the fact that he may not be the best men for the job and that ruling directly may be not the best way to achieve his goals.
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>>102266368
And yet he can't disentangle himself from Marvel's petty Fox bullshit. Sad!
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>>102266440
>>102266507
It's funny, because that's the exact same thing he calls out in his last issue of Animal Man.
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>>102262863
What’s an incel? Is that like an animation cel that gets put into comics?
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>>102262863
>Why do people like Doom?
read moar comics
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>>102266804
You got it in one, anon. Good job.
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>>102266804
It's a PC (for some reason) way of making fun of someone for being a virgin loser.
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I mean yeah, kind of. But I don't think it was for political purposes, it was to show that being a happy family man was the better choice.
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>>102265380
What is she doing on the second panel? The art is weird.
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>>102266929
having a flat ass
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>>102265363
Wow, T'Challa and Monroe can't even handle banter. Pathetic, but now I see why Tumblr likes them.
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>ITT: faggots debating pointlessly
The simple fact of the matter is that Doom was, is, and will the best hope for the human race. This has not been retconned. Deal with it.
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>>102266440
Doom lost because he underestimated the love between the F4, not because he was outmuscled.
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>>102267050
This is the exact kind of Doom stuff that I don't get. What's the end game here? Why not just make him the hero now? Is it because everyone else is oppressing him?
I feel like it only works if his own insecurities are what keeps him from being a savior.
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>>102267050
>trusting fucking panther god that backs a monarchy that keeps the cure for cancer to be a moral judge
>totally overlooked all those utopian what ifs that don’t involve doom cock sucking
Panther god worst god.
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>>102267095
It’s bad writing, just ignore it. Doom is Lex Luthor but his writers forget he’s supposed to be a petty selfish prick and that his moralizing is just for show.
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>>102267079
>Page clearly depicts Sue wank when she has never been shown to have that kind of lethal power
>But no it's the power of love
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>>102267050
>Thor hates Doom
>Panther God loves him
Why are African gods so shitty compared to European gods?
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>>102267130
>never been shown to have that kind of lethal power
Hasn't she done that exact kind of shit to robots and the like?
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>>102267130
>Implying Sue didn’t beat Doom by ambushing him in the Stan and Jack run
>Ignoring the 5d reality chess match
Go cry into your Dr Doom bodypillow fanboy.
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>>102267157
She has. She’s even wrecked Thing plus Shulkie plus Titania plus Absorbing Man. Anon is just being a salty Doom cockgobler.
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>>102267139
>Wakandans have a history of being isolationist self-righteous bastards
>Wakandan god favors Doom
This isn't exactly a surprise for people, is it?
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>>102267050
Yet he admits Richards would handle absolute power better than he.
How exactly does that mesh with this panther god shit?
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>>102263805
I don't understand gay parades, why would someone want to march the street and scream their sexuality at others? The only reason seems to be attention.
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>>102262863
>everything i dont like is incel
Go back to tumblr.
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>>102266746
And then he immediately whines about da white man. Not Doom, not smug racists, but them evil Europeans against whom he uses the old "while you were still in caves we were x" bullshit. He's insecure and immediately leaps into collectively disparaging Doom's ethnic group. But you can't be racist against white people I guess.
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>>102267050
Is this supposed to be refrencing the what-if where he creates a utopia? Yet trying to invalidate other what-ifs?
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>>102267306
Hey, at least he's bringing his people to space.
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If Doom isn't an amazing hero, why does Reddit loves him so much?

Checkmate, Doomhaters!
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>>102267095
The same reason Punisher isn't considered a hero, read the fucking panel.
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>>102267350
I'm not talking about public validation or people considering him a hero. If he's the savior of the universe, what is he waiting on?
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>>102265380
>You should be ashamed of yourself.
The cheating wife is one to talk. Wasn't she swaping saliva with Namor a few pages before this?
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I actually like Doom but this panther god shit is insane to me. He's proven time and time again he doesn't know how to handle absolute power, but this seems to imply he would have created a perfect world if he had access to it at any point.
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>>102267344
>Meanwhile what a stronger and more moral deity thinks of Doom
Chad Thor >>>>Virgin puppy "god"
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>>102267426
It's because panther god is a shitty god.
Here's what a real god thinks of Doom.

>>102267440
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>>102267424
How would Doom react to the DC universe having a canon future in LOSH and DC 1 million better than anything he could ever do?
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>>102267440
>>102267454
Why don't Wakandans just worship Thor instead?
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>>102267050
>>102267424
>Doom only succeeds in one future
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>>102267398
Oh right, i forgot he an all-powerful and can save the universe in a second.
And then he was all-powerful he did save the universe the best he could.
What do you not understand about him? He wants a better world and thinks end justifies the means, no matter how horrific they are. Heroes are moral, some more, some less, Doom is not, which means in no way, shape or form he can be considered a hero.
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>>102267499
>Posting Hick Shit
Get out of here.
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>>102265398
>t. breitbart
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>>102267499
>And then he was all-powerful he did save the universe the best he could.
And then admits Richards could have done better.
That's the point. He doesn't seem to have the capability or potential to grow into the savior the panther god is claiming he will become.
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>>102267499
Are you being sarcastic? Because he has had the chance to do this multiple times, and most recently wasted his chance to turn the multiverse into a video game in Secret Wars 2.
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>>102262863
As if someone like Stark is any better. Doom at least has principles. Tony is a hypocritical cunt.
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>>102267485
Hell if I can remember the name but there was a comic once where people in a third world country. were being slaughtered en masse. Some were Thor worshippers and when they were found out they were shot on sight.
Thor wasn't best pleased so he went down and started fucking shit up royally. Things improved in a real hurry. Then Iron Faggot showed up lecturing about international accords and they ended up fighting. I remember there were a bunch of soldiers waiting in the wings and Captain America told them to stand their ground.
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>>102267515
I don't like it, but it's a canon
>>102267529
Better or worse he did save the universe and if Richards could do it better why didn't he, while everything went to shit Doom was the one who went and investigated the deaths of the worlds, came up with the plan and did what had to be done.
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>>102267613
>Better or worse he did save the universe and if Richards could do it better why didn't he
Debate with Doom, not me. Those are his words.
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>>102267589
>Then Iron Faggot showed up lecturing about international accords and they ended up fighting.
Man, fuck laws and shit. Fucking niglets need help and sheeeit.
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>>102267669
>fuck laws
If they're abetting massacres, absolutely
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>>102267424
This is very weird character wank because while it's claiming Doom is the right path, it's also simutaniously implying out of ten thousand futures, Doom only succeeds in one of them... which feels very contradictory to Doom wank as a whole.
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>>102267833
We need MORE massacres for subhuman negroes and mudslimes,not less.
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>>102267868
Tony, please
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>>102267868
>>>/pol/
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>>102262863
But I like him as a villain and I lik to see him lose. Making him a somewhat good guy beyond "he's not too awful for a dictator" and self-serving alliances was a mistake.
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>>102267868
Raimi, please
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>>102263626
Really now because your post makes the exact same points as the latest Tonyfag thread.
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>>102267930
Screw you, Oildriller, Coalburner, niggerlover!
>>102267975
Screw you too!
>>102267943
>implying thread isn't /pol/ already
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>>102266848
Pretty sure it was originally meant to be descriptive and not meant to be used for mockery.
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>>102267996
Mine came first; he probably copied it.
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>>102262863
so much projecting
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>>102267120
>any villain that has genuine beliefs is bad writing, villains should all be strawmen
WOW
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>>102268039
While that's true, it's currently making rounds in media headlines as an okay way to say something very juvenile and nasty about someone. But it's okay because gun violence or something.
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>>102268093
My point has nothing to do with Doom's genuine beliefs. Those are fine. I'm specifically criticizing this panther god prophecy shit.
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>>102267284
It's a great feeling when people who hate your guts can only helplessly SEETHE and watch as you rub your resistance in their faces.
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>>102268142
I always knew the gays were just trolls
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>>102267440
The second panel doesn't make sense. They probably wanted to do a cool pose, but what's really happening in there? If the next panel was Thor smashing doombot into the ground, then it would be okay, but how in the world, when you punch something down (like Thor is about to do in the second panel), it flies away to the side, like pictured in the next panel?
I wish more Western comic book industry people understood fight scenes are supposed to be a series of images connected to each other, not just a bunch of cool poses.
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>>102267050
Yet his handling of Doomworld was pathetic. He's barely Gaddafi tier as a leader.
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>>102268093
>he says, strawmanning
Are you trying to be a villain?
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>>102268099
Yeah modern media are pretty nasty when it comes to ad hominem.
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>>102268311
>doombot
No wonder you're confused, you've never read the comic.
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>>102267520
Someone hasn't been to France frequently.
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>>102268099
Also there is some serious research into sexual misery but it's not exactly fitting with the current narrative so it's not going to gain much steam for a while.
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>>102265398
It's a bit of a disingenuous exaggeration to talk about those like they're a general thing instead of marginal and disapproved of by most people, politicians and media.
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>>102268446
You haven't either, those are headlines not your personal experience of France.
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>>102268142
But pride parades only generally happen in liberal bastions where people accept them anyway.
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>>102268423
What does whether it's Doom or a Doombot have to do with the physics of blasting something into the ground?
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>>102268701
People have discussed plenty, what are you on about?
At least keep your pretending to be an SJW straight.
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>>102268701
I literally learned about a new Fantastic Four comic because of this thread.
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>>102262863

because he cried for 9/11
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>>102266119
I genuinely thought that was a dude when I first saw that image. Then I saw the video and it turned out to be a dame.
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I like him cause he's a tragic figure who could potentially change the world were it not for his ego and grudges.
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>>102267424
Does this not count as a separate timeline anymore?
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>>102262863
>>Fascist
pretty sure he's monarchist
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>>102269630
Wasn't this the bad end scenario of a what if story?
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>>102269738
It's a what-if, but he saves and unites humanity in it. I always thought marvel what-ifs were considered alternate timelines.
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>>102263232
>>102263322
>>102263626
>>102264064
>>102264312
...

Oh sweet summer child

Seeing you try so hard is almost endearing... Almost. In the end, it's a strange mixture of tryhard pathetic, autism, OCD, infantile narcissism, and an overall lack of life or purpose.

It is comical in an almost tragic way.
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>>102269791
Didn't Earth go to shit while he was off-world defending the planet against Celestials or something like that?
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/r/WhoWouldWin
/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay

Those are the communities that love Dr. Doom the most. Powerlevelfags and fat weeaboos. What does that say about the character?
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>>102263105
doom wants power. thats it. He uses technology and magic to do his bidding... and hes king of Latveria.
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>>102270161
>Two best friends play
>Loves Doom
>Hates Superman
Is there a connection here between hating Supes and liking Doom?
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>>102271523
Probably.

"Doom is edgy, therefore well-written" or something along those lines.
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>>102267139
thor is technically an alien not a cosmic/magical being per se try again.
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>>102263805
>wanna talk about different politics
Leave his country then, go be a subversive little shit in the US

>>102270310
Doesn't he give it up all the time though?
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>>102264535
Black supremicist or white cuckold?
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Do you even k ow what fascism is or did baby just learn its first insult.
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>>102274191
I don't really, I've been meaning to read Mussolini's book on it along with some of Marx's stuff at some point (obviously not on Fascism)
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>>102262863
doom was a pretty great shooter

excited for eternal.




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