Why did Pacifica get such a raw deal in the finale?
Why do people still complain about how Pacifica was handled when she got the best development from the side-characters overall, and even better overall development than some of the main characters Pacificafags are fucking lucky
>>92479551What more did you want? Her parents were appropriately humbled and she sent the twins off as good friends. Short of proclaiming her undying love to Dipper or some shit, I don't know what else you could have expected for her.
>>92479551Because Hirsch has both a poon work ethic and no trust in his subordinates, which is a guaranteed formula for shit never getting done.
>>92479724because it gained a lot of momentum before the big hiatus and then the brakes were just pumped so hard, it might as well have not happened and the most that came out of it was her just saying "daddy, stop selling out to satan"
Jews hate rich blonde white people with historical legacies.
>>92479724Because she had the potential to be main character, but the creators just threw the idea out the window. The material was all there.
>>92479551Seriously, it was more about punish the years of Northwests' selfishness and cuntness than give Pacífica the short stick.
>>92480099>Because she had the potential to be main characterYou can say that about all the Cipher Wheel characters that weren't Pines family.But the only character who actually deserved a bigger part in the main cast was Wendy because she worked at the Mystery Shack, yet she hardly got any good development.
>>92480239Hirsch is not a good showrunner, what else is new?
>>92480239>WendyI'd pick Pacifica over her any time of the day. They could have used the old cliche of a bad guy (or gal) changing their ways and joining the protagonist's team.
>>92480305They are both more likeable than Mabel at least.
>>92480239Alex can't female characters
>>92481047But he could at least try.Apparently, Linda Cardelini was too busy being Hawkeye's wife though.
>>92481096I'm not sure it's a good idea to base a character's appearances/development on how easy it is to get their voice actor
I'm still mad that they nearly dropped her completely after the finale.
>>92481309It's not like they have a choice. If actor is not available, they can't work.
>>92481310They just sorta had her fuck off until the finale after her development episode. Sort of like McGucket, come to think of it
>>92481310Oops, meant after NMM.
>>92481428>>92481358we had to retread the Dipper's impossible crush on Wendy after that got mostly resolved in the bunker episode
>>92479551Because her parents riches were ill gotten and villains get punished in kids shows.
I did find it kinda weird how her last appearance was a joke at her expense, which not even Gideon got
Because the show as planned ended after Ford came back.Northwest Manor Mystery was the episode just before that.After that, every episode was written with the intention of ending the show after season 2 rather than 3. Anything that wasn't already in place got jettisoned, and any characters who were mid-development got reverted so as not to overcomplicate things.
Which Pacifica is best Pacifica to make a 3D model out of?
>>92481700just to make it harder for you
Because the Hacklet ruined everything
>>92479724I can say that about most of the second half of season two, something just felt off and incomplete. Ford and Mabel lost their potential due to the lack of time. Candy and Grenda got way too much screen time and every felt too safe.Which is disappointing considering Season 1 and the first half of Season 2 were fucking fantastic.
>>92481888>every felt too safe.How so?
>>92479551Because she wasn't supposed to be a relatable character at first, but the internet changed thatThat's what Alex himself said
>>92481941I believe he said something along the lines of>The reason Pacifica's so terrible is to contrast how delightful Mabel isFunny how things change, huh?
>>92481918Well the ending felt too safe, I would rather have Stan recover his memories over the year and by the time the twins come back to Gravity Falls, he remembers them instead of now.It a show can could really use more development for the characters, Mabel and Ford especially, it felt rushed and should a benefitted from one more season.
>>92481970That line is just hilarious in all sorts of ways.
>>92482033I only just noticed those tanlines
>tfw new pinkguy art never ever
>>92482033>If Dipper had chosen the apprenticeship, he could be with her instead of MabelDoes Dipper have shit taste?
so if Alex did a season 3, how would Alex ruin Pacifica out of spite for us
>>92482259Just straight up not having her appear
At least Pacifica had a focus episode which made her a conflicted and interesting character.Wendy had none.
>>92482311And Wendy's the one who was supposedly a main character.Maybe Alex just can't write tomboys
>>92482218Dipper is a self-insert for Hirsch.The same man who dumped Manzi for some frumpy slag in problem glasses
>>92482311Blondes are better than redheads, but both are better than brunettes
>>92482332I dislike that Alex ended the show early, but I feel like all the people that hate him hardcore are just crybaby Manzifags.
>>92481970>Mabel causes apocalypse despite being lol randumb adorable>Pacifica is a massive cunt most the series, but ends up seeking self improvement and opposing daddy bending over for SatanFunny how things go. Can't trust those hos.
>>92482332>some frumpy slag in problem glassesthe asian girl?
>>92482259Probably this desu>>92482285Bonus points if he makes Mabel the main character and continues to ignore her role in nearly destroying the universe.
tbqh none of the Gravity Falls characters are particularly good except Stan. This works fine for a comedy show, but isn't so good when the show actually tried to be more serious and dramatic.
>>92482441Stan's one mistake was yelling "Wait!" a few seconds too early
I wanna fug her.
Post more Bigdad
>>92482441Stan was great. I think the worst part of the story getting rushed is that Stan didn't really get his time like he should have.
>>92482441>but isn't so good when the show actually tried to be more serious and dramatic.Not What He Seems was some excellent seriousness
Post big tity pacifica!
>>92482259He'd Make her learn nothing and give her a rich chad boyfriend who hates Dipper. And he'd have Mabel constantly outshine her and win the hearts of all the townsfolk just to show how delightful she is.
Pacifica:>Rich>Blonde>Shows development>Didn't cause the apocalypseMabel:>Middle Class>Brunette>Never learns anything>Caused the apocalypse
>>92482561It also kinda showed just how unnecessary Wendy is
>>92482561Okay you got me there, but that was more the exception. It's just too bad the rest of the show couldn't really live up to that episode.
>>92482705>No xmas special centered around PacificaThis character just writes itself
>>92482746>No Christmas Special where Mabel gets violently punished by the Krampus
Are there any Mabel fans anymore? Or did everyone jump ship after she showed herself to be remarkably selfish and evil?
>>92482838Every Mabel fan was either a Tumblr weirdo, a normie that has long since forgotten about the show for the next 'in' thing or a member of the writing staff
>>92479551Commie faggot alex got butthurt his strawman was liked.
>>92482838I still like her.
>>92482838Whoever made that bullshit image needs to be smacked.
>>92483045Delicious flat chest
>>92483045She's a qt.
>>92483099Does she have autism?
>>92480397That's basically every character in the show who isn't Bill, though.
>>92482955I liked her a lot at first despite being lol randumb, but I jumped ship after she went fill villain with no consequence, so I was wondering if anyone else felt the same.>>92483023Even after all she did?>>92483039Found the Mabel fan. Star is infinitely more cute and charming than Mabel "Fuck everything I'm gonna gargle the devil's cock and replace my brother with a copy" Pines.
>>92482838She's not actually this terrible, just writing around her.
>>92483119That or brain damage
>>92483142>This is what starcucks actually believe
>>92483142>Found the Mabel fan. Star is infinitely more cute and charming than Mabel "Fuck everything I'm gonna gargle the devil's cock and replace my brother with a copy" Pines.To be fair, that's not actually saying much.
>>92481832Okay, that's probably the cutest Pacifica I saw recently.
>>92483142B-but she did nothing wrong!
>>92482218>Does Dipper have shit taste?He was in love with Wendy. What did you expect?
>>92482218You would have to be a fag to want to be with mabel over pacifica, she's probably into some kinky stuff. Plus she's rich.
>>92482769I want to see a comic of Mabel getting ass raped by krampus as punishment for being a bad girl. Bonus points for mindbreak.>>92483318>>92483262Just accept that star is better than Mabel in every way aside from braces.
>>92479724This.She got more development than Mabel, one of the main characters.
>>92479551Why did you use the edit that flattens her chest?
Where is titty monster mabel?
I want to comfort her.
>>9248170047K's Pacifica. >>92482838>tfw Mabel was once easily the most popular character on the show >tfw Gravity Falls fans once practically worshipped the ground Alex walked on How times change.
>>92486071All my favorite characters are voiced by Hirsch, which is a problem since I think I hate him now.
Mabel is a character that wastes our time by going off-topic. Half of the plots is her doing dumb shit outside Gravity Falls core premise.Can you imagine Scooby Doo, but every other episode has Daphne fucking off shopping and picking up guys with no connection to plot? That'd be dumb.
>>92487021Well Mystery Inc had romance subplots that were also shitty. And Daphne did fuck off to go shopping and date someone, but they just replaced her with Hot Dog Water.
>>92487066I was worried you'd say this.I should've to watch MI before I make my point. But from the sound of it Daphne didn't waste lots of plot.
>>92487110If it makes you feel better, it only lasted for two episodes and actually serves a purpose to the plot.
Forget Pacifica. I really wish Wendy had more involvement. She might never be Dipper's girlfriend, but she's way better friend and teammate for him than Mabel.
>>92487821>haunted convenience store episode>Wendy now knows there's actual supernatural shit going down around town>hoping she'd be more involved, probably hoping it break the boredom of living in the middle of nowhereI was such a fool
>>92487895Inconveniencing was misleading, but the worst bait and switch was Into the Bunker.>it's a Dipper pining for Wendy episode>but wait, Wendy does something for once>Dipper's crush is finally laid to rest>Mabel apologizes for pushing Dipper to confess>so many problems resolved in one glorious episode>lol jk all of these issues come back again later on in the season
>>92488614This is really annoying.
Sup dudes any requests ?Pacifica obviously, Mabel is yucky
>>92483311>>92481832Hippie Reverse Pacifica is best Reverse Pacifica.
>>92479551this video explains it pretty good, or atleast how fucked up it is they treated pacifica towards the end for no reason after an amazing redemption arc and showing how cool of a main character she could of been if alex hirsh wasn't such a fucking hack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWjFEMnV_twlol
>>92489817Oppaicifica modeling a lace or black bra - LOTS of cleavage and sideboob because it doesn't fit.
>>92489817Oppaicifa in Golden Girl's costume.
>>92489817Oppaicifica using the size flashlight to shrink Dipper to the size of one of those purse dogs and carrying him around in her cleavage.
>>92489817Pacifica with a long fancy cigarette holder, using a candle to light the cigarette at the tip
>>92483039>smackI'm not the one who made it, but I am the one who requested that it get made
>>92482113Delicious Cute Tits?
I like blondes
>>92491014we do too
>>92489882This already is better than Alex's writing.
>>92490095Cheers, hope you dont mind i added a extremely puzzled dipper.
>>92491591Not OR, I love it
>>92490233>>92491591These are great. Saved.
>>92491591Magnificent. Many Internets to you, kind drawfriend.
>>92491591Neat. Think you'll do the others?
>>92491591YES. Much thanks.Garterbelt is a nice touch, and I don't mind the Dipper - he's got a funny look on his face.
>>92482218I think the show would've ended better if they had both taken it
>>92482838I always found her kind of grating, and she just got worse as time went on
>>92483142Well, Star gargled demon cock too, it's just that she stopped before the show began
>Mabel: The looks>Dipper: The brains>Stan: The wildcard>Soos: The muscle>Wendy: The useless chickIs that true?
>>92480239>You can say that about all the Cipher Wheel characters that weren't Pines family.If the wheel had meant more, each character that represented a symbol would have gotten a spotlight episode, and each episode would have emphasized them developing a connection with the Pines.I still hate how it got lazily tossed in near the end and then just as lazily gotten rid of.
>>92492419>I still hate how it got lazily tossed in near the end and then just as lazily gotten rid of.It's almost like the show was rushed to completion and obviously needed another season or something
>>92492419Most of the wheel symbol/character linking was pretty weak thematically. Most of the characters only applied because they happened to be wearing a certain article of clothing at the time, and then there's "lol Wendy's the ice because she's chill"
>>92492453Also kind of weird that of the 10 people who can defeat this trillion year old demon, four of them are from the same family, six of them are underage, there's only one between the ages of 15 and 60, and none of them are adult women.
>>92492377Wendy should've been co-muscle with Soos.>>92492453One thing they could've done would be to give everyone connected to the wheel some sort of oddity about them, either subtle or blatant.>Ford's extra fingers>Dipper's birthmark>Gideon's albinismAnd so on.
>>92492564Then who would the useless chick be?
>>92492564>Mabel's brain>Wendy's complete lack of personality
>>92479551Because you all care too much about a character who had one focal episode.
>>92492610Wendy's oddity would be her lumberjack genes, obviously. She was supposed to be freaky-tall for her age.
>>92492697She should have been freaky strong too. Not even muscular, just bizarrely strong.
>>92492697yea, we see her in a few instances show a good deal of physical prowess but it's never expanded upon as much as it should. She's just in the end a teen who can sometimes use an axe on a shapeshifter and maybe do something when the world is ending but that's about it
>>92492697What about Mabel and Pacifica?
>>92492820>MabelBraces with electromagnetic properties>PacificaIsn't it obvious?
>>92492813>>92492779Exactly. Wendy's way better suited to be the team muscle. They even could've made a running gag about her casually mentioning crazy stuff about her upbringing like having apocalypse training instead of Christmas.>>92492820Hrm, kind of tricky. Maybe there's something weird about Mabel's braces or something. Or maybe she has a weird birthmark of her own that she conceals with her sweaters.
>>92493067Wendy probably would've been more interesting if theyA. Included her in more adventuresAnd B. Gave her flaws that actually mattered
>>92493053>the magnet is specifically said to be able to rip the fillings out of somebody's mouth.>there's a main character with metal in their mouth>the two never interactTalk about a wasted opprotunity
>>92493214>For the twin's birthday, Ford gives Dipper the magnet gun>"Use this in case Mabel ever gets out of line."
>>92490622Cow Tits, Anon.
Which of the GF girls is the biggest wasted potential?
>>92493347Mabel. The last few episodes of the show split the overall opinion of her in half.
>>92493510By last few, do you mean Weirdmageddon, or before that?
Misha ruined Pacifica for me, same with Ronnie Anne
>>92483039Mabel:>Brunette>Obnoxiously stupid>Middle class>Never learns>Took a lot of persuading before she'd make a very minor sacrifice to save her brother's life>Boring human>Rarely solves her own problems>Shallow>Caused the apocalypseStar:>Blonde>Adorably stupid>Literal princess>Learns lessons>Made a big sacrifice to save her friend with little hesitation>Magic>Usually solves her own problems>In love with her best friend who she lives with>Didn't cause the apocalypseHow can Mabel even compete?
>>92493510How did it split?
>>92493951By constantly spamming them and trying to interject them into the conversation even if it has nothing to do with them
Because she wasn't as good as Mabel. No one will ever be as good as Mabel. Its why Alex can't have a long lasting relationship.
>>92486071She was never the most popular. It just seemed like it because the fans were as loud and obnoxious as she was.
>>92490504Pacifica looks smokin hot>>92490142>>92491330>>92493051a request and a seconding and yall dont even reply baka.>>92491669>>92491732>>92491735i think pacifica looks way hotter with 5 fingers.>>92491881i'll do what i can.>>92492076>I don't mind the Dipper - he's got a funny look on his face.he just cant believe it.
>>92494529Looks good, thanks
>>92494354So then what are your standards for popularity?
>>92494588Same as anyone elses. I didnt say not popular anon.
>>92494529>Girls lighting cigarettes using things not traditionally used to light cigarettesIs this a fetish? Because I think I have it.
>>92494706i can only think of two; this being the classier way and the more trashy way of cig in lips and leaning down to the fire source like a stovetop
>>92494994I think you could do the latter in a classy way, provided the fire source isn't something trashy like a stove top or a dumpster fire
>>92490061>>92486220>>92483209>>92481790https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtdEeI-B21ADid Bart have a point?
>>92486071That one in particular? He drew her a few different ways.>>92481806Yes
>>92492470Anyone else think the wheel would have been better if this was plan A and the gun Ford used was plan B?Six of the ten are in the mystery shack (dipper, mabel, stan, ford, soos, wendy), three of them are in town (mcgucket, pacifica, robbie) which could lead to pacifica spending time with dipper and mabel and ford and mcgucket would burry the hatchet between them. The only one that would be hard to get to would be gideon since he's in jail.Dealing with Bill would have been a lot easier if the wheel was plan A
>>92495161>for freeNigga, you make money off our views, fuck off.
>>92495827To be accurate, it's actually from commercial breaks that people watch. Without ads it's literally fucking nothing.
>>92492470well they can't all be a gimmicky jrpg team
>>92492470Come to think of it, pretty much every character who does anything noteworthy is either a child or an old man
>>92495161shrugging dipper.jpg"Entertainment for free" is a pretty tired defense. Setting aside the cost of cable and channel subscriptions (let's be honest: most of /co/ wasn't paying for any of that), dedicated fans are a valuable asset in themselves: ratings, commercials, merch sales, and free advertising via fanworks and word of mouth. Nowadays, a show's viewership is a product almost as much as the show itself is.
>>92496021not to mention keeping viewers happy is a good way of selling merchandising which for some shows is the real life blood
>>92495161>For freeDo these people think television shows just magically teleport into the talky-viewy box with no one paying for the means by which it is transmitted to it?
>>92494529Damn Lewd stuff going on here>imgurcom/a/8rmZz
>>92496488What's lewd about the post you replied to?
>>92493051>>92494529Sorry bro, I was away doing stuff. But I'm really glad you did it, I've been wanting a Golden Girl Pacifica for ages.
>>92496560the lewd stuff is going on in the link you jabroni.>>92496579it's okay m8 i was just busting your balls.
>>92496488I appreciate the lewd but they both just look like weird midgets with those proportions and adult features in their bodies.
>>92496418>>92496488You are now our God. How can we worship you today?
So did we run out of stuff to talk about?
>>92483141> Bill> Not one of the 2 only likeable characters alongside Stan
>tall>redhead>tomboy>tfw the woman of my dreams is fictional
>>92497707She's also bland as fuck
Here's a challenge. Find a way to make Mabel more likable and resolve at least some of the problems people have about her, but you can only alter the events of a single episode. (You can alter it in anyway you want.)
>>92497943the unicorn was actually right about Mabel being flawed and she actually has to accept it
>>92497943I had an idea for a scene change in the finale like this. I might've brought it up in another thread a while ago, but anybody wanna hear it?
>>92493990>Didn't cause the apocalypseWell, she's making a good job trying to.
>tfw the character intended to be the one dimensional rich bitch ends up being the best female character, while the character intended to be the lovable delightful ball of sunshine ends up being the worst character period
>>92479551Pacifica and her family were originally just meant to be shallow Drumpf parodies. A wealth business man with a plastic trophy wife and a snobby blonde entrepreneur daughter. Blumpf wasn't actually a threat to Hilldawg's ordained Presidency back then, he was just trolling liberals minutely with the Obama birther thing. When Alex heard fans wanted to see more of Pacifica, he was surprised, but obliged by giving her a likable side and shifting most of the blame for her spoiled behavior to her parents.By season 2B however, Krunkf was gaining traction in his Presidency bid, and Alex was in full panic mode. John Oliver, Colbert, Liebowitz and the other """Comedian""" friends Alex had were tonguing his anus at that point to make an example out of Glorpf, so Alex put Pacifica and her family on the sacrificial alter and had them suffer a worse ending than homicidal Gideon, Pacifica had to take one for the team in the end.
>>92498679Well done, this actually looks like the kind of post a fresh-off-the-Boat r/the_donald Poster on /pol/ would make. 10/10 would be baited again.
>>92482838>Are there any Mabel fans anymore?Yes but not here. All the kids in the actual target demo liked her best and will remember her the most from their childhoods. Also all of Asia.4chan is the only place that likes Pacifica the most. (tumblr does also like Pacifica but mostly it likes making her gay with Mabel)
>>92498679What's funny is that the Northwests didn't even do anything wrong up until the finale. They were strict with their upbringing to their daughter. Oh boo hoo. Maybe that's why she isn't running around like a little shit fucking up stores and causing apocalypses like Mabel?What was the cause of conflict in NWMM? The Northwests didn't want dirty townsfolk at their party. What happened when Pacifica let them all in? They trashed the place and acted like savages.Preston offered his services to Bill... for some reason... I don't know it felt like more to be some sort of unfunny shot at capitalism that only a communist like Hirsch would make. Then even though he immediately got his face arranged and was turned into stone after offering, he was still somehow able to invest in bonds for Bill or whatever retarded "I have no actual understanding of economics" joke Alex made that caused him to lose his fortune.God the finale sucked so much shit. Fuck Alex and his politics.
>>92482838Westaboos love Mabel the most, even more than they love Star Butterfly. Mabel more genki.
>>92498865>likes making her gay with MabelWhy? The two have like two positive interactions at most
>>92499358And? She has zero positive interactions with Dipper outside a single episode.
>>92483141>He doesn't want to fug the triangle
Why is she so popular when she only prominently appears in 3 episodes out of 40?
>>92489817Pacifica lifting her shirt up to reveal rockhard six-pack abs, Dipper's reaction to this is optional(but would be nice)
>>92499411she's delicious alpha bitch with the added twist of redeemed and wasted character development we can fawn overkind of like Trixie Tang in the episode Timmy goes magic drag
>>92499411Meanwhile Gideon was the main villain of the first season, and most of the fandom seems to just sort of pretend he doesn't exist
>>92499451Speaking of Trixie, what kinds of alpha bitches are the best, blonde, redhead, or Asian?
>>92497943One I've seen a few times is one where Mabel tries to sacrifice herself for her brother during that "Eenie-meenie-miney" scene, admitting to causing Weirdmageddon in the process.
>>92499470Because while his character is decent for a villain his design was unappealing and his voice was kind of grating.
>>92499537plus he was already human, so you can't humanize him into anything sexy
>>92499537I'm just gonna go ahead and guess that he's one of those characters who would be far more popular if he was a cute girl
>>92497943Change the ending of Escape from Reality. Dipper's escapist fantasy was going on awesome adventures instead of dealing with real life. Mabel's was a world where she never had to let go of her brother, her pet, and her summer friends. Dipper rejected his fantasy unambiguously, but Mabel's biggest hangup--separating from her twin--went mostly unresolved. She offered to let Dipper stay in Gravity Falls, but only after he changed his mind. I don't think Mabel was too selfish for most of the series, but she'd have grown as a character by accepting she couldn't be her sibling's number one priority forever. That's an important part of growing up, especially for teenagers. So, rather than the trial ending with Dipper promising to come home with her, Mabel chooses to intervene on Dipper's behalf. Maybe she realizes he risked his life and rejected fake Wendy for her, or she just has some flashbacks of her own in response to Dipper's speech. Either way, she makes her own sacrifice (by choosing to break out of the bubble herself and telling him it's okay to stay with Ford) before Dipper tells her he's changed his mind.>>92499519That's a good one. It still bothers me she never said anything about it.
>>92499573I remember an R63 design for Gideon that was pretty cute, also remember one of the earliest AU ideas had Pacifica and Gideon swap roles, so yeah you likely have a point
>>92499583>She offered to let Dipper stay in Gravity Falls, but only after he changed his mind.I honestly didn't really get the point of that part in the finale. Mabel says it after Dipper already repeatedly promised he'd always stay with her. not only that, but at the time Ford was captured and could be dead for all they know, and she kinda already got in his way of taking the apprenticeship quite a bit by destroying the goddamn world and what not. Either she was pulling some weird emotional manipulation, or she was truly so stupid that she seriously thought there was a chance Dipper would say "Sure thing! See you next summer!"
>>92499470Bill showed up and nuked Gideon to hell popularity wise, not just with the fangirls, with everyone.Actually no I'm kidding because if people liked Gideon they'd pay attention to him and ship him with Bill or something anyway. But he's kind of fat and ugly. Though I don't know if anyone doesn't like Gideon's character they just don't find him sexually appealing at all or cute enough to draw so he doesn't show up in art of fanfiction much.
>>92499573Well that's the lazy fix, but honestly he just needed better character or a nicer design.
>>92499686In terms of character, I was never too crazy about "creepy romantic stalker" type villains in general. There are very few ways for it to logically end, and even when written well they're usually just uncomfortable to watch.
>>92499707It might've been funny if, at the end of the series, Gideon told Mabel he was no longer interested in her, because he's trying to turn over a new leaf and people who cause the apocalypse aren't his style anymore
>>92499573>I'm just gonna go ahead and guess that he's one of those characters who would be far more popular if he was a cute girlBut you don't have to guess because you already know exactly what would have happened if a cute girl had his role and just how much more crazy-popular with the fandom the character would be
>>92499797Are we posting Reverse Falls now? How about this one?
>>92499814I guess her with the cigar is kind of hot though still not sure where the idea came from
>>92499846I've seen a few fics/art that have the source of her magic be a big blue cigar, while her brother's is still the amulet, I suppose to set them apart a bit. Maybe it's a fetish thing, but the cigar does kinda fit her appearance and personality.
Sometimes I think Bigdad's Pacifica is meant to be a loli. I am absolutely certain the original, short and thin version was, which is why he would only post it on Pixiv.
>>92499882this is the only image I've ever seen her with a cigar. I've seen her in more images drinking out a plastic starbucks cup
>>92499988>>92499967fair, now I can only say it's the only GOOD image I've ever seen of her with a cigar
>>92489817Pacifica unable to see because she can't pull her shirt down past her huge knockers causing her to bump into Dipper.
>>92499953And one more I can remember
>>92499952She looks like an early teenager
>>92498910Nice bait. 8/10.
>>92479551I wanna give Pacifica a "raw deal" if you know what I mean.
>>92498510I guess the lesson here is that rich people are better than poor people
>>92490233I would read a story about this.
Is it just me or did a whole bunch of posts get deleted
>>92499451Both have really annoying shippers as well
>>92499411She's the only one with actual character story.
>>92482218 he's just been beaten down by mabel's selfishness for so long he is incapable of telling her no.
>>92501682To remind you of how shit this board is.
>>92491057And Iiiiiiiiii will always ship youuuuuuuu
Yes hello where are the Pacifica titties?
>>92501632Raven is marvel or dc, so it's allowed by the couple of new selective annoying mods. They've also started nuking webcomic threads, even when they are made about once-per-week new content. Dunno why, but the recent mod(s) has been shit.
>>92501682>>92502256That thread was literally made by the same anon, that's been going "lol, because I can" for the past couple of days.Maybe people haven't hit that 'port option.
>>92479551How does that hair even work like that?I mean, those are some wacky physics.
>>92493990She Lost the damn book and she went full retarded for marco also ridiculized her parents in front of the whole kingdomn just to have a cool and edgy randum song
>>92502937>She lost the damn bookIt's not like she left the book laying around; it was stolen from her during a fight for her life.
>>92498910>What's funny is that the Northwests didn't even do anything wrong up until the finaleAlex, please.Abandoning plot points doesn't erase them.>They were strict with their upbringing to their daughter.Mindbreaking children isn't "strict".>What was the cause of conflict in NWMM?Breaking a deal, causing a mans death, and disrespecting the people trying to fix it.>What happened when Pacifica let them all in?They got to continue living?>Preston offered his services to Bill... for some reason...Prior affiliation, again, abandoned plots.You're right, but you're also stupid.
So most people outside of 4chan still like Mabel right?
>>92479724Because her story wasn't complete. She went from brat, to sort of understanding and then nothing. Just one more episode and then could have completed her arc. If anything her disappearing and then being so upset about no pony made it look like she regressed.Plus she was part of Dipper getting over Wendy. They didn't have to end up together, but Dipper falling back into the same old and Pacifica irrelevancy went hand in hand.
It's not exactly consistent
>>92505972Meant for: >>92499952
>>92504473On tumblr. Nobody else really talks about her anymore
>>92505972Femdom pacifica sounds kinda hot, but she's probably just being a tsundere who would break down in tears if she ever talked about her problems.
>>92505972Goddamn, dem thighs.
>>92492377Wendy is the muscle, Soos is the handyman
>>92506373It's based on an It's Always Sunny joke.
>>92492377>Stan cuts the brakes and jumps out of the van.Sounds about right
>>92504473I haven't heard of her in a while
>>92504473Gravity Falls fandom is just pretty goddamn dead period and here it's just "totally off model Pacifica with giant breasts that somebody keeps bumping." However japan still makes lots of fan art of Mabel.
>>92506684On tumblr it's mostly gushing about Mabel, Stan, and/or Ford (Which is weird since they all despised him when the show was actually on.)
>>92506779It probably just depends on who you're following but honestly I just don't see anything about any of the characters most of the time especially compared to when the show was still on. Clusters of holdouts or people just getting around to watching the show will probably pop up from time to time focusing on this or that thing and people will also probably update their shitty fanfic with barely anything to do with the show for a few years but mostly it's just dead. Not too surprising since the show has been over for well over a year and didn't have that many episodes and only ran for two seasons to begin with.
>>92506530>>92506684Mabel's still popular on Reddit.
>>92507271>Reddit has shit tastesWhy would we even expect anything different st this point
>>92506965Well, 4chan seems to be the only place I've seen where people thought Mabel caused the apocalypse. I never see that anywhere else.
>>92507052Who is Tiamat?
>>92507393/co/ r63 Draco Malfoy idea.Came from one of those threads.
>>92507271Reddit's one of the few places I've seen people legitimately criticize her.
>>92507345Well, she kinda did. What do other places think
>>92507271Really not helping your case here.
Remember when tumblr actually thought wendy was trans?
>>92507529Because she's a mild tomboy?
>>92507547Yes, they actually thought wendy was trans because of her mild tomboy traits. Just like they think marco diaz is trans because of 2 episodes where he's a trap. The website has a radical leftist agenda.
>>92479551People were liking her more than Mable.
>>92507444>>92507463Well, not everyone on Reddit likes her, but she has more fans there than here. If you're curious here are some opinions they have:https://www.reddit.com/r/gravityfalls/comments/5ljpnq/thoughts_on_mabels_characterization_through_the/https://www.reddit.com/r/gravityfalls/comments/5rcwgg/what_are_some_of_the_more_mabel_oriented_episodes/https://www.reddit.com/r/gravityfalls/comments/6b3pj1/ranking_the_gravity_falls_character_opinion/
>>92507635Reddit unironically likes rick and morty, hence why they love mabel with their shit taste.
>>92507463Most places just put it all on Bill, which I think is fair, he deliberately came to Mabel when she was both in a raw emotional state and had the ability to do something rash with the dimensional rift.
>>92507662>Reddit unironically likes rick and mortyThere are people on /co who like it too.
>>92507673This is classic deal with the devil type plot. Devil comes to a person and offers them an evil deal. But they only accept the deal because of their vices. Virtuous person would not accept Devil's offer.In this context Mabel had vice of entitlement and desire to control others. Instead of overcoming this vice and defeating the devil with her newfound virtue, she had her vice satiated.
>>92507697>/coNice try reddit
Was it rape?
I don't think the board that has convinced themselves The Legend of Korra is the worst show ever should say anything about other boards or sites having bad taste.
Honestly I was fine with Mabel at first, but the show always punished Dipper for doing things that she got away with it.The absolute worst was the puppet episode where Dipper gets possessed.
>>92507764>The Legend of Korra is the worst show ever should say anything about other boards or sites having bad taste.>You can't say anyone else has shit taste becuase You don't share my shit taste!
>>92507743I don't know why you want me to try reddit.
>>92507662So I haven't been that active for the last year, but did /co/ stop liking Rick and Morty purely out of bog-standard 4chan contrarianism or is there something to it?I mean, I remember when Justin Roiland posted in some threads here and everyone was sucking his dick hardcore.
>>92507845You have to go back reddit and memery.
>>92479724Because Pacifica in Weirdmageddon acted like Mystery of Northwest Mansion never happened. They wrote her more akin to how she was in the mini golf episode. We wanted her to have some more interactions with people like talking to Dipper, or even patching things up with Mable. Instead she just bitches the whole time about a sweater that Mable made her, says her parents didn't deserve being turned into stone, and almost refused to touch a hillbilly until her father Told Her To Do It. It went against any development that she had in being her own person and stepping away from her horrible family. Then she still gets knocked down to one pony like a peasant. Not to mention her father investing in weirdness bonds wouldn't make sense since he was the very first person Bill fucked up with his powers. They just wrote the whole segment in as another jab at the rich kid.
>>92507849>Fans Suck off a show on a Board>Suck off so hard that people who don't watch the show on the board go too see if it's any good>people Get very annoyed by the show, possibly even hating it, and that distaste is only amplified by the fans unending fellation of it.>now when fanboys try to suck off the show, they get shut down/drowned out by people voice their criticisms or distaste for that show.
>>92507908/tv/ hates rick and morty with a passion. Remember the reaction to the april fools day prank?
>>92507849I only "liked" it because my friends were watching it. Rewatching it afterwards shows the gross flaws the show has.
Be brutally honest, how many of you have actually gone back to rewatch parts of this show?Hardmode: No NWMMNightmare mode: No NWHS
>>92508197I have a tendency to stop rewatching shows once they've ended for years.
>>92507798Who are you quoting?
>>92507673>>92507718Honestly both Ford and Dipper were far more retarded in their deals with Bill. Ford had been warned Bill was bad news and not to summon him but made an idiotic deal anyway. Dipper knew Bill was Bill and evil but made a deal with him anyway.I'd say outside of 4chan with its fucking stupid screechy Mabel hate meme whiners blames Ford more than Bill for the apocalypse and they're correct to do so. Ford had to do multiple retarded things over the course of decades to lead to this fuckup and he's a fucking adult not a kid. Dipper is dumber about the puppet deal. Even trusting Blendin is dumb since he tried to kill them but not nearly as dumb as those two other things. The only difference is the show brings up Ford and Dipper's stupidity and being at fault while Mabel's part is never even mentioned, which is frustrating and stupid. But I'd say Mabel getting tricked like most of the characters got tricked is a stupid reason to hate her.More than anything Mabel just isn't explored or held accountable because the writers lost interest in her character.
>>92509017Sorry meant to say most places blame Ford more than Mabel for the apocalypse. Obviously, Bill is most at fault but he's the bad guy.
>>92509017To be honest, I would have Preffered had Mabel Actually made a deal with Bill instead of Being tricked. Dipper and Ford both Did so Out of their Hubris, a flaw. But Mabel gets it handwaved with, oh it was all a trick, she's not at fault, she Dindu Nuffin!" It's all part of the "Mabel Can Do Wrong" And "Mabel Can Never Suffer" themes that Hirsch has to force.
>>92507697>>92507743>>92507849People like Rick and Morty just fine. It's delivered pretty consistently and enjoyably. We also really like the latest episode that was released early on April Fools Day. I haven't heard anyone dislike the show on /co/ other than random very obvious baiters and shitposters.
>>92509133I want to fuck Summer a lot.
>>92509133Wonder if Roiland ever comes here to shit talk it for laughs. Seems like something he'd do.
>>92509017It doesn't matter who's to blame. It matters that the problem was solved not by finding virtue in Mabel, but in pandering to her vice.Ford and Dipper made mistakes and suffered for them. Mabel made mistake and got to hold entire world hostage until she got her way.
>>92480397>Wendy at all likable, let alone more likable than Mabel
>>92509400Wendy is likeable. She's not perfect, but she's pleasant and supportive. Also, being more likeable than Mabel is hardly an achievement.
>Read all these endless threads hyping pacific up to be COAT>Spends 98% of the show as a generic unlikable bitch, gets 7 minutes of sympathy before reverting back to nothing
>>92509498But what 7 minutes that was!
>>92499358but that's whybut yeah like the other guy mentioned most of pacifica and dipper's interactions are negative too with just a 1/2 ep exception
>>92509400Wendy was the only likable female on the show.>but m-muh PacificaShe was a bitch who followed the "rich white conservative people are evil, goys" mantra that Hirsch swore by. The plot of her parents being the ones that made her bad came out of nowhere, didn't excuse previous behavior, and ended up being scrapped in the finale anyway. Her fans are mostly insufferable shippers and her character added little of value to the series other than being one person who could've been able to call out Mabel for her bullshit until Alex put a stop to that.Wendy's shortcoming was that she didn't get enough episodes and plot points like her rough home life and deceased mother weren't explored in full, only vaguely touched upon.
>>92481806I'm seconding this as hard as I can
>>92509498It's the fault of the commie cuck creator
>>92507434Tiamat as a name was always retarded and pushed just by one fag.This said, /co/ taste for Pacifica usually reflects on fen Draco too, which is awesome.
>>92509563It was implied a few times they care more about social status than her a few times before NWMM. Like when they told her sternly to not lose in the golf episode.
The entire Weirdmageddon's failure can be traced to Hirsch's weird morality that appeared earlier in the Tale or Two Stans. That doing your own thing is wrong, and getting mad at your sibling for wanting to do separate thing and knowingly or unknowingly sabotaging them is not an act worthy of contrition.
The reason you like Pacifica is because she's the only character who showed any bit of admiration for Dipper's hard work in the entire series.
>>92509692fuck you, the stan thing was an honest mistake and he apologized for it and suffered for it, only thing he did wrong was not telling ford right awaybut if you don't check your experiment a few times right before the judges come you deserve to lose the science fair anyway, my school always had time right before the fair started to double check your projects for that reason then we did it again while the judges were coming around for that reason
>>92509786She smells like roses.
>>92509737That and she Paid for her Flaws. A Character that is an Ass but suffers for it and maybe even occasionally learns from their suffering will always be more tolerable than an annoying Character who's mistakes are never treated as such and who never learns anything and continues to be annoying. Just Look at Red Dwarf At how many People Loved Arnold Rimmer while Despising Season 7 Kochansky.
>>92509854Yes, he did play for his mistake. But the whole premise seems to imply that Ford should have never had ambitions.
>>92507718Mabel makes me ANGRYHow come some aspects of this show are so god-tier when others fail even the most basic methods of making you care for a character?
>>92496488Wew, lad. Hope to see more from you.
>>92511021Honestly man, stop.Stop getting fucking angry over children's cartoons that ended years ago. You are a fucking adult, even if you didn't liked some decisions, move the fuck on, it's just tv.
>>92510793I don't think so, it was implied that Ford only got into weirdness research as a way of distinguishing himself after he was relegated to a second-rate university. I think the message was that Ford would have had a better life had Stan not sabotaged him, and Stan did get karmic punishment for it in the shitty life he led before taking over the mystery shack.
Because Alex had such a hard on for the older boring too-cool-older-teen waifu of his that he reset Pacifica's development. Next to NWHS, NWMN is honestly the best episode of the series. Mabel isn't a cunt, Pacifica has believable development and her interactions with Dipper are really well written. Personally I don't care for Wendy because she was always the same static character, and that's just boring. The unattainable cool chick. Pacifica is Dipper and Mabel's age and she actually grows through out the show, just like the twins (Well, mostly Dipper I suppose) Her personality was a lot more interesting played against Dipper's than Wendy's was.
Why wasn't there ever a Wendy episode anyway?
>>92513625Because having a shitty D&D parody episode was more important than giving a member of the central cast any degree of development
>>92513746Because we gotta go on a road trip
i just come here for the shit postingbut if they were a follow up series of GF what would you hope it is about
>>92513625Wendy's a boring empty cast of "likable cool older girl" and little more. Your very pic has more development for her than what was done with that single line of dialogue in the entire show.That is why she never got an episode focused on her.
>>92513995They could've filled the shell with something.
>>92514059I'd fill her tight little shell with something that's for sure.
>>92509100That honestly would've worked a lot better.That way, Mabel would be more easily accountable for her actions, and Bill would actually have a reason to put her in a bubble instead of just killing her on the spot. Plus, that way you'd get a nice thematic thing of every member of the pines family shaking hands with Bill at some point during the series
>>92513746>member of the central castThat's a real stretch
Too bad that wasn't a lot of supernatural fetish stuff that happened to her
>>92479551Because she's a side character, not part of the main cast.
>>92511409Those things are going to sag so badly when she reaches her mother's age.
>>92516537Incidentally, her mom is the only mother in the entire series with a known first name
>>92508197I've rewatched The Hand That Rocks, Gideon Rises, Scary-oke, Into the Bunker, NWMM, NWHS, Sock Opera, and D&MvtF once since the finale. Still good. Never bothered rewatching Weirdmageddon or the rest of 2B because it was mostly shit.
>>92507765why's that the worst one?
>>92508197Honestly, I haven't watched a full episode of this show in over a year.Additionally, I started watching this show after it ended, and I watched it mostly out of order
This is just a side note, But I always thought that the final credits sequence was vaguely pretentious for reasons I couldn't quite put my finger on
>>92517391I don't know if I agree that it was pretentious, exactly. Too cluttered or twee, maybe. I hated the music, though. As I recall, it was generic pop instrumentals, which was a shitty way to end a show with such a good soundtrack.
>>92517825What do you mean by twee?
>>92517391Just a combination of the music, the quirky "outtakes", and disappointment of the finale in general made the whole thing seem like it was Alex smelling his own farts one last time before leaving his show to rot.
>>92518000That coupled with the scrapbook credits, the final cryptic message, and the music box drawl at the very end made it seem like they wanted to tailor make every aspect of it to yank on the viewer's heartstrings as hard as they could in the very last minute of runtime the show had
>>92517889Excessively sweet and sentimental.
>>92518220Oh, okay. It did kinda feel like that. Maybe the problem was that the show hadn't really "earned" an ending that sugary sweet
With the mods deleting everything in this thread, and endless shitpostingWe can all agree Stanbel is the best and its cute.
>>92518309Stan DID seem to like her a lot more than Dipper
>>92518385That's because Stan saw himself in Mabel the same way Ford projected onto Dipper.
>>92518570>an elderly shady conman sees himself in a 12 year old girl who loves glitter and rainbowsI honestly don't really see the connection
>>92518309It's the perfect time to ask if anyone has the Older Mabel x Stanley drawings.It's the only way you can get me to ship it. Those drawings were so good.
>>92518570But only one of those was protrayed as negative and unhealthy
>>92518570>>92518631For such a shitty pairing, I fucking love the drawings and unironically like posting them in threads. I'm glad there are people who don't deem this as shit posting.
>>92518730>>92518309dude no holy shit what the fuck godno no nowhy
>>92518730That image sure is something.
>>92518801this fandom and incest fuck are there any members of that family you don't want to see fuck each other even though they're all related
>>92518730IN THE NAME OF THE EMPEROR, YOU WILL DELETE THIS!
>>92518880I don't wanna see Dipper and Mabel's mom fuck Shermie
>>92518872>>92518880Go to tumblr and search StanbelThere's like less than ten pictures and a few degenerates trying to defend pedophile incestuous uncles.
>>92518712That's because Ford was an ass and Stan paid his dues. If spending thirty years trying to bring his brother back home wasn't enough of an apology, nothing was going to be.
great googly moogly where that doublepines at
>>92519118To be honest, they didn't really have enough to time to either set up Ford's personality or develop it. Or they didn't use the time they had wisely, at least
>>92519227It's in every fucking Gravity falls thread, you've already seen all it has to offer
How would you have ended the series, /co/?
>>92519258but I want more
>>92504384>Pacificanda will never brainwash you into being her friend>she will never re-enforce her spell everytime you start to realize that you're being manipulatedIs it so wrong for her to want both a friend and a slave at the same time?
>>92519525>tfw the fandom is pretty much dead now>tfw there's no mind control lewds of gorgon Pacifica and now there never will be anyfuck everything.
>>92490504If I remember correctly, Pacifica uses a cigarette holder in that one circus AU somebody on 4chan came up with
>>92499583>. It still bothers me she never said anything about it.Was it adressed in the journal?
>>92507434THe fem Draco thing is really about archetype/personality more than the gender.Male Ponce: Leatherpants/Females and Gays love em and want him to bang harry to get him to be good.Alpha Bitch/Bitch in general: Dudes and lesbians want the hatefuck them. Or have harry hate fuck them.That archetype brings out the anger bang.
>>92483023 I only like season one Mabel. >She was adorable.
>>92508197I'm rewatching it with my 12 year old brother in order to gauge how the target audience would like the show. He seems to really enjoy it.
>>92520810Hatefucking turning into genuine vanilla is an underused sex trope.
>>92521393great, now I want Pacifica taking a champagne bath
>>92518797>>92518951>>92520205I hear the sound of jimmies rustling in the breeze.It is a sound I live for.
>>92521445>you will never imbibe Pacifica-infused champagne
What's the genreal opinion on Ford?
>>925219764chan: bland waste of potentialMost other places: Hated him when the show was on, then suddenly loved him when it ended
>>92521976Not enough time to really develop him. I would've loved to have seen more of him and Stan trying to work out their animosity while trying to bond with the kids. We did get some of the latter, but it was rather brief
>>92522063They only interact in 3 episodes, which is still better than what we got for Ford/Mabel interactions
Pacifica had a character ark and didn't devolve as the series went on to season 2
>>92522106I want to do unwholesome things to Pacifica's tender anus.
>>92522106I guess so
Guess we've run out of things to talk about
>>92509198He'c claimed that he comes here and argued against his own show before. There are twitter posts referencing him hanging out on /co/ from like 2014. He also wants to fuck Summer. A lot.
>>92509198As >>92525495 has said, yeah he's been here many times and openly admits to shit talking his stuff.
>>92508197I have.>hard mode>nightmare modeNever mind.The ending honestly kind of ruined it for me, I see some episode on tv and think I'll watch it, then give up half way through.
>>92526207Probably just as well, most episodes seem to have this thing where they get progressively worse as they go on
>still no season 3
>>92527442>he actually wants a third seasonAfter Hirsch and ecksdee so thoroughly shat the bed, the show needs a reboot or spin-off to continue.
>>92509563>>92509652They also openly encouraged Pacifica to be as asshole in season 1, complementing her after she made some bitchy remark to Mabel and Dipper.
>>92507434This makes me wish /co/ understood the difference between British private boarding schools, American high schools and harem anime.
>>92527442>still no comics with great replication to the show's styleI just still feel like it's going to happen.
>>92527442>Alex promised us 3 seasons>Then said 2 seasons and a movie>got 2 seasons with one rushed as fuck finale>Alex promised us a comic book series that would explain all the loose ends the show couldn't couldn't address>still no comic book 2 years later>Alex said he was going to make a new show for FOX>Still nothing of that while the Regular Show guy got his new cartoon greenlit for TBS
>>92513625No one on the writing staff knew what to do with her.
>>92530682How about Dipper being the one doing the hypnosis, instead of being hypnotized?
>>92527532Or hell, even a rick and morty episode with JUST the Stan twins or just ford in it..
>>92530896Nah, just feels out-of-character at this point, even though it's canon that he has an indomitable will.
>>92490142>>92493051Mabel would have been a better fit tho
>>92534253How was rampant breast expansions not part of the chaos when Bill took physical form? I feel cheated.
>>92530826Wait, the Regular Show guy is getting another cartoon? What is it? I sure hope it'll be less formulaic than Regular Show.
>>92536398Probably going to be a sitcom.I have no high hopes for it.
>>92532815he'd have to have a reason to do it. or else some weird telepathic thing happens and he's doing it accidentally.
>>92518570no stan says once that he sees himself in Dipper because he too was once weak. Dipper however sees himself in Ford
>>92534253Terrible should draw more Pacifica art.
>>92537229That he should.
>>92537229>>92538507People suck his dick more for Mabel, so you know what's happens there.It's the Polter-effect.Ya'll just have to try and suck his dick more.
>People still bumping this two and a half day old thread.We've run out of things to discuss. Just let it die
>>92482113after I got married I dont have more time for drawing. sorryand gfg ended too
>>92538685You don't draw anymore at all?
>>92538769No, husband and I too busy for that
>>92538555People want something, anything to remember them of the good times.
>>92508427Nice attempt at trying to cause confusion.
>>92532815>that picI wonder what movie they were trying to reference there on the TV?
post more pacifica
>>92536995There's the idea that Dipper uses his own mind control CD on Robbie to create Robin.
This thread seems to be pretty much dead, so I think it would be best if we just let it die and wait for another GF thread, which will probably be like a day at most
A beauty queen.
>>92544347Fuck you, I'll practice necromancy all I want, starting with this thread!
>>92495072Off-topic but I'm imagining Mirage from Incredibles doing this with the lava waterfall and that seems pretty classy.
>>92548502Lighting a cigarette with the heat from the lava
>>92497943Make Roadside Attraction about Mabel learning to give Dipper some space and letting him do things on his own, instead of shaming Dipper for something Mabel has done all series long. This would also help set up the sibling separation fear somewhat; here she would think of it as a one-time thing, but the beginning of Weirdmaggedon would make her think more long-term.
>>92557150also why did those girls think some random guy in a tourist trap asking for their digits and email was gonna be a serious thing? You are all on fucking vacation