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Toffee was a name given to him by Eclipsa. Discuss.
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This show is shit. Discuss
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The idea Eclipsa has a sweet tooth is great.
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We have no idea whether Toffee or Eclipsa is older from one another. Toffee might be older than Elcipsa or even her lover.

Though if it is his real name then it would make more sense if she was his parent/owner than his lover. Which mean that the Trigon demon might still exist, too.
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I watched the movie the other day (rarely watched the show) and didn't really get it. What the fuck was Toffee's endgame? What was his motivation? After being brought back to life, where was he going when he was walking away while being a coy edgelord to everyone? Was he just walking away because it's dramatic?
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>>93943165
How hilarious would it be if Toffee was Eclipsa's lover?
Think of what it would mean.
Eclipsa unknowingly gave Moon the spell to kill her love.
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I'm tired of people passing their retarded fan fiction as canon
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>>93943165
This actually sounds pretty plausible given her sweet tooth
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>>93943445
He was humiliated by 14/F/BK and swore revenge. He corrupted their magic, burned the book, and reversed Moon's victory over him.
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>>93943445
He's immortal so he's in no rush. Letting everyone stew in their broken moment was enough for the day.
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>>93943445
He wanted his finger back.
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>>93943485
>unknowingly

i think if they go that direction you can BET that she guessed the one Moon was trying to kill was Toffee
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>>93943445
The plan was to fuck up magic so much that the Butterfly family couldn't use the Darkest Spell to kill immortal lizardmen anymore. Now that it was done, he had all the time in the world to go build his army back up, because they can't kill him.
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>>93943445
Yeah I didn't get it, he could have simply killed the queen and the royal family bloodline would be gone forever,hell he gave up the kingdom by leaving Luddo body.
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>>93943521
>He gave up the kingdom and supreme power for a finger
So he's retarded?
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>>93943532
>because they can't kill him
That worked out well.
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>>93943545
>he gave up the kingdom by leaving Luddo body.
Would you really want to rule a kingdom in a little bird body via whispers?
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>>93943165

Daron called him Toffee because he turned into goo at the end.
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>>93943485

>unknowingly

That's not how contracts work anon
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>>93943165
and DEAD was a name given to him by Star and Ludo
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>>93943445
Wouldn't it have been great if Toffee whispered into Moon's ear:

"I killed your mother, and now your daughter. Once I return I'll take your people. Only when you are left, may you die."
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>>93943581
I'm guessing past cooking experience.
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>>93943572
He's a simple man with simple needs. Also immortal. Both of those things are finite. Getting rid of the gaping wound in your hand you will otherwise have forever takes priority.
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>>93943619
>Killed her mother and daughter

A swift death really would of been a mercy for Moon.
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"You think you've won? Ha! You don't make the plans. I do! Me! Only I know how this all turns out!"

>tfw Toffee never truly had anything but his reputation as le keikaku man and then in the end it turned out he didn't even really have that
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>>93943165
I hope he's not gone for real because of that asspull. Disappointing.
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>>93943165
What I want to know, is where he got his knowledge of magic from. He obviously didn't know much about it when he first met Moon. When he faced Star he knew about the Whispering Spell and the magic goo inside the wand.

He must have gotten help from someone in the Butterfly family.
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>>93943662
I now right. An extra line or two of dialogue could of gone a long way.
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>>93943676
He was reading a large book about the wand in Ludo's castle.
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Post em pictures.
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>>93943676
He seemed to know about Eclipsa's pages of the book, so she probably left the monsters some information before she was imprisoned.
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>>93943711
Is that a Bill Cipher wand?
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>>93943711
The Avarius family must have been pretty chummy with the Mewmans in the past.
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>>93943526
>>93943594
I'm just saying what if Eclipsa finds out that she killed her lover unwittingly and hilarity ensues.

If she did on purpose, well she's a cold-hearted bitch. Still funny though.
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>>93943739
Maybe.
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>>93943711
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I just realised, that if Star was dead and Toffee went away the biggest threat to him would be... Ludo.
I bet that little fucker would just go through everything, stalk Toffee and probably cut him in little pieces, isolate them in containers then fucking burn every piece on a low fire.

Like, I know this is edgy and shit, but Ludo without Stars shenaningans with magic would've become the next biggest threat to Toffee, if he gets himself together.
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>>93943485
I know the paintings are embellished but I'm pretty sure the monster we see in it is definitely the lover
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>>93943851
I got Pilaf vibes from Ludo. He's a cute little villain, I felt pretty bad for him at points.
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>>93943851
>if he gets himself together.
If he didn't get tossed in the void to go on another LitW vision quest, Ludo wouldn't have been a threat to anybody. Just would have been mindbroken. Smashing Toffee brought him back
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>>93943851
>ludo
> anything other then a nuisance
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>>93943902
Ludo may be a goof but he's a disciplined goof. When he goes for something he fucking goes for it, failure or not. It's how he managed to go on his own for so long
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>>93943752
What if it was Toffie who also betrayed Eclipsa and her monster lover instead?
Hence the reason for giving Moon the spell in the first place, other than a ticket to freedom.
>Eclipsa was Toffie's boss instead, maybe?
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>>93943902
He was a badass all by himself after he was thrown in the void but before found the wand.
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>>93943851
Ludo is just a manchild that hire cheap thugs to do his dirt work, he's not a threat to anyone.
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>>93943165
>tfw Toffee's name could have been "Snookers"
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>>93943897
He was a good underdog.
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>>93943947
>Ludo is just a manchild that hire cheap thugs to do his dirt work
So was every bloodthirsty tyrant throughout the history of mankind.
I mean, Nero for fuck's sake.
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>>93943939
See >>93943947
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>>93943485
That would give her the motivation to actually become a villain.
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If Toffee is a child of Eclipsa and named due to a sweet tooth then he must of had a lot of respect for his mom not to change such a ridiculous stupid name.
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>>93943947
>Implying thousands of rats ripping you apart so that a manchild would burn those pieces one by one is totally not a threat

And that is only one of the possibilities
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>>93943947
I don't know about the monsters, but he earned Eagle, Spider and the rats' respect
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>>93944043
i don't think he can control rats anymore, now that he lost a wand. they only obeyed him because he blasted them into submission
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>>93943485
FUCK, you know what i just realised?

WHY was he called "THE LIZARD" out of nowheere in the movie? Was it really important to give him a second nickname? Did nefcy tried to fool the audience to make his appearance a suprise? Im pretty sure everyone knew who he was since Moon already mentioned that he was the ruler before starting the flashback,

NOW I KNOW.

SO THAT MOON WOUDN"T NAMEDROP TOFFEE IN FRONT OF ECLIPSA!!!!!!!!
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>>93943165
Reposting my thought

It really did strike me as odd that this guy's name was Toffee. If he had a really silly or an over the top name like Rasticore does, then I'd be like "oh that's the joke" but Toffee isn't silly it's just...weird. For a villain.

And now that we know Eclipsa's really into sweets, there has to be some kind of correlation. Or not. Just would be a weird coincidence
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>>93943951
>Toffee has a wife and she calls him Snookers
Its so ridiculous it might actually be true
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>>93944095
Oh shit nigga
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>>93943445
He did want Moon to be alive to feel miserable over her daughter and mother being dead. I guess that was more important to him than killing her.
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>>93944091
They feared him because of the wand, but they served him him because he got them corn, not because of the wand
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>>93943526
Theres too many immortal monsters for her to think she meant Toffee. And last time she saw him was probably waaay beofre he became a warmonging rebel
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>>93944107
I like the theory that powerful generals being given candy names is some kind of weird tradition she accidentally started back when she was free.
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>>93943165
The idea of Eclipsa and Toffee having anything to do with each other is absurd. His death wouldn't have been the condition to set her free if they were in cahoots.
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>>93944229
See, now, that assumption doesn't 100% have weight because of >>93944095

Moon never actually namedropped Toffee. In fact, I don't think she mentioned it was a lizard
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what if you saw star getting into a strange man's car
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>>93944152
well he doesn't have that going for him now whatsoever
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>>93944229
>The idea of Eclipsa and Toffee having anything to do with each other is absurd.
Didn't his shoulder armor have spades on it?
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>>93943581
Either this, because it looks like 'TFOE," or both.
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>>93943165
>tfw season 3 finale will probably be a super form battle between Star and Eclipsa
I hope Marco gets a tentacle monster form so he can get a cool fight scene too
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>>93944273
That's why he's starting over from scratch. I think Eagle and Spider still cared about him though
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>>93943851
All that magic was Toffee, not Ludo. Ludo only knows one fucking spell
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Moon Okay, what do you want?
Eclipsa My freedom.
Moon What?!
Eclipsa Oh, I know. It's a lot to ask. But... I've just been here so long, all by myself. I want to buy my own chocolate. Or those little shrink-wrapped muffins at the bottom. Mmm!


There is just too much connection to her and sweet things. And the fact that they only told his name to Moon after she alreeady made a deal makes this very likely that they are indeed connected.
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>>93944316
Spider is best girl
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>>93943930
Ludo is literally a crybaby who thought growing up as a midget with siblings who picked on him was the equivalent of having a hard life
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>>93944316
Speaking of Eagle and Spider, i still didn't quite get how they got back to Mewni after being teleported on Earth
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>>93943851
This is the moment where i need to use this gif. Ludofags are just too cirngy.
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>>93944314
And Star loses right?
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>>93944270
i'd get in with her
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>>93944352
I swear if this is what Daron had envisioned since introducing Toffee she is an absolute mad woman
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>>93944014
He was annoyed when Moon called him out on his stupid name. He seem to really respect that name or he would want to call himself "the lizard"
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>>93944380
That's when Marco has his PLUS ULTRA moment
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>>93944107
It's a coincidence. If there was any link between Eclipsa and Toffee, it would have been brought up the moment Moon spoke to Eclipsa about getting a means to kill him. Toffee is immortal but no one knows when he was born and everything Eclipsa has done wasn't considered evil until after she was imprisoned
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>>93944095
FUCK
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>>93943897
Pilaf was a relatively smart villain. He had the means to locate the Dragon Balls, and his plans to defeat his enemies would have worked just fine if he didn't so happen to be dealing with Goku, who becomes one of the most powerful heroes in the history of storytelling. Pilaf is unlucky. Ludo is unlucky and self-defeating. But still, you feel for him anyway.
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Glossaryk is the Bene Gesserit and Star is his Kwisatz Haderach.

You know that scene with him constantly trying to roast the pudding in the fire? That's a metaphor for his continuing process to create the perfect conduit for Magic.
All his past creations were failures. But Star succeeded.

This Toffee business is all according to keikaku
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>>93944374
Someone needs to make a gif of when Ludo smashed Toffee with a pillar.
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megas?
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>>93944437
Good point.

>>93944444
Good get.
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>>93944444
>All his past creations were failures. But Star succeeded.
But that doesn't make sense. Yes Star succeeded but it's because of the piece of pudding he was roasting and managed to get perfect in the first place. I mean, that's why he had soup, to mimic the "skimming and dipping" metaphor about soup that he made in season 2
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>>93944374
I still can't believe like half the shit in the "Toffee" episode actually happened
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>>93943718

>I don't mean my horns, Marco
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>>93944229
Except Eclipsa not knowing that she killed him might be the trigger to her becoming a threat. Moon didn't even mentnion that he was a lizard. She just called him an "immortal thing".
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>>93944477
>Yes Star succeeded but it's because of the piece of pudding he was roasting and managed to get perfect in the first place.
The little sphere of magic wasn't literally that bead of roasted pudding.
It was a metaphor.
Like the soup.
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>>93943711
The idea that the Mewmans would have a book like that lying around at all, particularly in the hands of monsters seems weird.
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>>93944329

I wasn't talking about magic
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>>93944520
>The little sphere of magic wasn't literally that bead of roasted pudding.
Yes it was. If not, then what was he making it for? It was even in a sphere shape that birthed the new unicorn, I thought it was obvious
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>>93944535
I doubt it was acquired legitimately.
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>>93944430
Not to mention that if Toffee was so important to Eclipsa, she would have been able to connect the dots the moment Moon spoke of him. There's no relation between the two
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There are a lot of races living in that Mewman village, how many countries are on their world?
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>>93944576
>she would have been able to connect the dots the moment Moon spoke of him
How? There are many immortals that Moon could be talking about. Why would Eclipsa's mind immediately go to Toffee?
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don't forget to watch the livechat witch star and marco guys
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>>93944566
No, but you think it would'v come out at some point. That someone would notice that a book with top secret information was missing like that.
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>>93944352
Anon, she was looking at a vending machine for hundreds of years. Odds are she would have developed an obsession with what was inside
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>>93944579
None any more.
All destroyed by monsters.
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>>93944394
>Fortune Cookie
Ludo: "Toffee". I guess his name is Toffee!

>Storm the castle
Star: Toffee?! I have no idea who that i


Moon I presume you're the one they call the "Lizard".
Toffee Yes, but you may call me... Toffee.
Moon Toffee? How is that any better?
Toffee What do you want?
Few things to point out:

1 - His name was always supposed to sound out of ordinary and wierd for a monster

2. Apparently he wanted Mewnmen to know his real name while he reffer to himself as the lizard whithin other monsters.
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>>93944611
If she knew Toffee personally and his goals, common sense dictates that she be the first to pop into her head. A lizard is invading Mewni, no possible way the lizard she knows personally could be the one amirite? It doesn't make sense, especially since she bargains his death for her freedom. There's no connection, its not there, it's farfetched, how many other ways do you want me to say it?
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>>93944627
It would have been likely if she only made a one gag about wanting the candy bar. It looks more like she was a fan of sweets before being imprisoned and she is kind of THICC to see it very believable.
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>>93944674
Moon never specifies that a lizard does it. Only an "immortal thing". Toffee may not have been immortal before and presumed he was dead.
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>>93944648
The Lizard is the persona Toffee used to motivate his troops. Its incredibly common for well loved military figures to be given nicknames by the men fighting for him

Andrew "Old Hickory" Jackson

Lewis "Chesty" Puller

Joseph "Stonewall" Jackson
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>>93944576
>she would have been able to connect the dots the moment Moon spoke of him.
Because Toffee is the only immortal person in the universe?

Just putting name aside, did Moon even say it was a Lizard?
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>first thing we see of Toffee when he appears in Ludo's mind is his eye
>his eye survives being crushed and is in Ludo's possession
Toffee ain't gone yet.
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>>93944674
Anon, she was disoriented and the last time she might have seen Toffee was at least 300 years ago. If she even assumed that he is still alive and immortal, she would be quick enough to figure out that he would wage a war against all Mewmen, Moon just told her that there was an immortal "thing" she wanted to kill. Didn't even mentioned a lizard or that he was a monster.
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>>93944674
>A lizard is invading Mewni
But she doesn't say it's a lizard. Also, even if she did, aren't all the lizards immortal?
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>>93943191
Why haven't the mods banned it to /trash/
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>>93944726
All lizards have been described as immortal in the show already and Eclipsa certainly already knows her monsters. Toffee's regeneration was just shown to be at ridiculous levels in comparison to other lizards
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>>93944742
She didn't even say he was a monster which would probably trigger Eclipsa, "The monster lover"
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>>93944802
>Toffee's regeneration was just shown to be at ridiculous levels in comparison to other lizards
It was? Because Rasticore regened his arm in like 2 seconds
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>>93944802
Was it though?
During the flashback sequence one lizard bit off another's arm and it grew back instantaneously.
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>>93944761
She wasn't that disoriented that she clearly knew what she wanted from Moon when she was temporarily awakened and then go on to have a clear and coherent conversation with her
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>>93944742
Exact transcript

Eclipsa I see. I lost my mother, too, when I was not much older than you.
Moon Ever since Mom... Um, since I became queen, everybody's been looking to me to end the war and make all these big decisions, but I'm just a kid! I can't decide the fate of Mewni! I can't even decide which boy I like!
Eclipsa I know how you feel.
Moon But that's not why I'm here. I need you to teach me one of the spells from your... forbidden chapter.
Eclipsa "Forbidden"? Is that what they're calling my chapter?
Moon Yeah, sorry. I didn't name it. But the point is I need a spell that can destroy something that's immortal.
Eclipsa Are you sure that's what you want?
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>>93944738
Toffee being called The Lizard is like Joseph Jackson being called "The Human"
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>>93944742
It would be relatively easy to connect the dots if she knows the person is immortal and probably a monster. If the conjecture about her knowing Toffee was true, she would have mentioned him the moment spoke of an immortal opponent. The fact she knows a spell to kill that which is immortal should be reason enough to dispel this theory.
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>>93944809
>"I want to kill an immortal being."
>Immortal? Glossaryck? "Are you sure that's what you want?"
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>>93944802
Apparently, that's just how their regeneration normally works
growing back a hand or a finger takes little to no efford
growing back a whole hand takes -some- effort
now regrowing your entire body from just a hand, is a lenghty process
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hey ya'll, I'm doing lewd edits in the /aco/ star vs thread if you have some screenshots that are pretty good. This isn't the lewd version.
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>>93944852
Yup. No Toffee, no Lizard, not even a mention that it's a monster

>>93944883
But the thing is every lizard is immortal. And again, she never even said it was a monster
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>>93944871
But it's not uncommon for someone to be nicknamed "The Man" now isn't it? And keep in mind that this is a MONSTER army, not just a lizard army
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>>93944852
Great, that would mean Moon yet again fucked up everything for everyone else.

But that might also make interesting plotline. What if this time, the real villains are the racist Mewmen nobles and lords? They might have caused something that made Eclipsa and Toffee mad and turned them into villains. Nefcy could be wiritng the entire show to make a statement about bias and acceptance.
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>>93944902
god this version of Star is gorgeous

nuking Toffee with a smile on her face
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>>93944955
>Great, that would mean Moon yet again fucked up everything for everyone else.
Like mother like daughter
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>>93943165
nice try but if Toffee was a child of Eclipsa he would have inate magical abilities.
His Immortality is just how his species is.
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>>93944883
She might as well think it was some Demon-kin like Tom or his father. Maybe even Pony Head or Rhombulus or Glossaryck. Therem might be more immortals than Toffee or lizards.
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>>93943165
Is there a MEGA for the ep anywhere?

I missed the fucking thing.
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>>93944852
Is Eclipsa losing her mom when she was a child somehow important, too?
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>>93945000
Well what sort of magic would he even need
He just pulled a bunch of strings behind the scenes, the most he did was follow Ludo to Star's house with a tracking device and he had another person do the rest, like with Buff Frog and the wand
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>>93944895
This. She might have think that Moon want to kill Rhombulus or Lekmet or Glossaryck himself.
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>>93945000
What if Toffee not having magical abilities is due to Mewman/monster breeding?
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>>93945000
Yeah, because all of those male butterfly family member are totally magic. They aren't
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>>93945000
Do you rally think she literally gave birth to a scalie? I think it's a common idea that he was adopted.

>Eclipsa lost her mother when she was a child
>thus she felt more empathethic toward an orphan ligger child

Something like this.
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>>93945000
I don't think anybody equated his immortality with magic considering Rasticore

>>93945024
Yes because she killed her mom probably. Seems like that would be a good twist
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>>93945041
Lekmet is mortal though
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>>93945024
Part of me wonders if she was lying about that to gain favor.
Or maybe the opposite. Maybe the reason everyone was trying to shelter Moon from making the decisions is because last time they had a young queen, Eclipsa couldn't handle the power and fled
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>>93944902
nice fantroll nefcy
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>>93944579
>how many countries are on their world?
There are two Mewman kingdoms, but it seems like the Butterfly family has de facto rule over the whole continent.
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What if she was a slut and had many children with different monsters?
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>>93945097
Im pretty sure Mewmans can give birth to hybrid species. Remember Butterflies are humanoid and Insectoid
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>>93945097
>Do you rally think she literally gave birth to a scalie?
Look at this face anon it's the face of someone who likes massive monster cock
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>>93945139
I thought for sure that River was going to come back with the ponyheads, not some random eagles.
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After the movie, I can add this show to the (unfortunately small) list of cartoons that have on-screen murder-suicide attempts
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>>93945097
"adopted" was what I thought when everyone was arguing about whether Toffee was or wasn't related to Eclipsa based on how her tapestry looks. like she doesn't have to have literally given birth to him to have known him personally

though now I think it seems maybe more likely that, if anything, Toffee could have actually been her lover or something once now that they've gone the "tapestries are p bullshit" route.

he's probably neither though since now he's incredibly dead
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>>93944871
more the "the gorilla" cause he's not a lizard he's a septaran or whatever
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>>93944902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdK4xMDvhP4&feature=youtu.be&t=87
Since Star's "super mode" is literally just "Sailor Moon as a bug princess," does anyone think Disney will ever let her get away with doing a classic-style magical girl transformation (nude, with a full-body light censor)?
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>>93945000
>if Toffee was a child of Eclipsa he would have inate magical abilities
Says who? Even male Butterflys don't have magic.
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>>93945205
It was my impression Star was hoping to do the same thing Toffee did and go inside her wand. Hence her realization when talking to Ludo. "How did Toffee get in my wand? The last time I saw him he blew up... ohhh"
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>>93943503
But that doesn't explain why he took over the army in the first place.
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>>93945200
it bothered me that he brought back eagles, and they didn't even bother to say if there was a connection between those eagles and Ludo's eagle
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Eclipsa named him Toffee because of how thick his cum was on her face
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>>93944520
>>Yes Star succeeded but it's because of the piece of pudding he was roasting and managed to get perfect in the first place.
>The little sphere of magic wasn't literally that bead of roasted pudding.
>It was a metaphor.
>Like the soup.

Was it though? Eclipsa is into sweets and so is glossaryck. Some kind of parallels going on.
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>>93944852

So we know 3 things about her

1. Liked monsters romantically (and "others" around her didn't like it)

2. She was addicted to sweets and that's also why she's so round

3. Her mother died when she was around young Moon and Star age.
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>>93945139
I'm crossboarding with /tg/ right now and I thought this was a map of the Chaos Wastes from the Thumbnail
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>>93945234
Somebody made a higher quality version of that webm yesterday

Wish I saved it...
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>>93945267
Star's not the only Butterfly to drown in his goo.
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>>93945275
We know so little about her, and that's why I'm not too hyped about her return (as big bad?). At least we could sort of conclude Toffee's inexplicit motivations based on evidence, and he was clearly a threat. If Eclipsa gets out... so what?
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>>93945306
What do you mean?
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>>93945306
Toffee's been inside a lot of people and a lot of people have been inside Toffee
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>>93945328
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>>93945181
That's not how hybridism works.
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>>93945275
I like how we actually have a discussion/theory thread rather than conctant cuckposting and waifufaggotry
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>>93945356
If all mewni ladies go through mewberty, do all of them have wings?
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>>93945324
Thats the problem.

Ludo is pretty much finished as a villain and he can only reform now.

Toffe is dead

Eclipsa is the only with the villainious potential but she seem to be misundertood positive character. If Toffee was someone important to her then THAT would turn her into a very powerfull and dangerous force.


Of course that would mean Toffee will never appear since her just ressurecting him would defeat her motif for revenge.
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>>93945356
Do you guys think that mewberty works like periods? As in it's a monthly thing? Does she have to undergo that transformation to remain fertile like humans? This is a show that has made tentacle porn jokes, what're the odds we see crazy horny Star again? It's the perfect material for season 3 if that awkward tension is going to take focus.
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>>93945415
Hopefully there may be another antagonist Eclipsa can be contrasted with as a sort of anti hero. Miss Heinous is still around, and maybe the prophecy from St Os is relevant to something big and dangerous.

>>93945356
They managed to explain pubescent horniness in a children's book. Love it.
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>>93945399
Toffee's been in Ludo during the possession and Ludo's been in Toffee when he was regenerating around him. For the latter case actually, physically inside him.

Star's been in Toffee and I guess since he was in a semi-liquid form then some of him may have gotten inside her too. Don't remember if Glossaryck was there or some other metaphysical place but it's close enough.

Depending on what he did to 4 out of 5 of the MHC their lifeforce or whatever could've been inside him too at one point. Not sure if there are any other examples but it's happened more than once.
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Jewni

Jewman

Jewberty
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>>93945205
Star probably expected to survive in the same way Toffee did, but she had no way to be sure. And she probably expected the explosion to kill Ludo.

Just to be clear, the explosion did kill Star. Her body must have been obliterated. Toffee didn't just get sucked into the wand, the only thing left of him was his right arm, stripped to the bone.

This also raises the question of if Star's new body is made of flesh and bone, or mostly out of magic like Toffee's was.
I'd say flesh and bone, both because we explicitly saw her create life (the unicorn) out of her new magic, and the meta reason of her being the protagonist and it would be really weird for her to be some magic homonculus abomination.
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>>93945339
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>>93945525
Well, time to go to that farm
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>>93944895
We've already seen that the MHC don't regenerate, they're just ageless, they can be killed by normal means and Moon wouldn't need a spell for that. Glossaryk is tied to the book and dies if its destroyed so no spell needed their either. Its pretty obvious
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what if star downloaded that mod for Mario 64 where a second player can be Luigi and asked if you could play with her
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>>93945520
>it would be really weird for her to be some magic homonculus abomination

after all the Toffee fuckery that just went down I think something like that'd actually be par for the course for this show
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>>93945525
>Toffee farm
LUDO STILL HAS THE EYEBALL
WERE GONNA GROW OUR OWN TOFFEE
STAR IS NO MATCH FOR THE POWER OF MOTHER NATURRRRRRE
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I'm fine with Toffee being dead, I just wish there was a bit more to him.
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RIP GENERAL TOFFEE "THE LIZARD" OF SEPTARSIS
20 JULY 2015 - 15 JULY 2017

didn't even make the two-year anniversary, damn
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What did they mean by this?
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>>93945324
>If Eclipsa gets out... so what?
She's a rogue Queen with Star's powerlevel and decades of experience. She actually devised coherent spells and doesn't need a wand to cast them. She either booby-trapped her own chapter to inflict readers with demonic possession or whatever she wrote in it is just that fucked up.

She seems a little goofy but that just makes her more dangerous. She manipulated Moon with ease. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it turns out she killed her own mother, intentionally or not.
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How would Disney/Nefcy react if someone offed themselves because a character on one of their shows died?
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>>93945609
Cuck runs in the Butterfly family blood
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>>93945622
She would laugh for that faggot liking such a shit character like Toffee.
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>>93945520
>Toffee didn't just get sucked into the wand, the only thing left of him was his right arm, stripped to the bone.

So does that mean there might still be a chunk of old Star somewhere in the wreckage?
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>>93945604
STOP HE'S NOT DEAD
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>>93945520
>being the protagonist and it would be really weird for her to be some magic homonculus abomination.

I think you're confusing "weird" with "neat"
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>>93945622
She wouldn't respond. Policy for things like that is to ignore it because some people think they're lives are so worthless that if they knew killing themselves would make someone look at them, especially an idol of theirs, they consider that to be worth losing their life. So, they just never address it out of fear of inspiring copycats.
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>>93945520
>This also raises the question of if Star's new body is made of flesh and bone, or mostly out of magic like Toffee's was.

I think that was discussed in a few of the previous threads
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>>93945618
Sure, but what does she want? What or who is in danger of her? I look forward to finding out more about her motivations and goals, but right now it's not raising the stakes or anything.
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Guys don't forget that there is the livestream tonight. Hopefully they address Toffee in some way, maybe confirming his death or raising suspicion that he might not be gone just yet.
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>>93945643
what if the final villain is this phantom star
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>>93945682
I hope she's radiating pure magic because she stole Glossaryck's god magic that he was attempting to use to purify the hobo stew of the universe, which causes people around her to develop magical powers. I would really like a Prometheus reference, with her bringing "fire" to everyone else.
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>>93945565
If this was that simple then what if Ludo had his TWO eyeballs? Would he grow two identcal Toffees?
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>>93945703
What time is the livestream? I don't mind if it's just EST, I can figure out the timezone shift.
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>>93945410
Star phrases it that way but she's clearly not knowledgeable on the subject. It might just be Butterfly women.
The only people we've seen with wings are Star and Moon, but that doesn't necessarily prove anything one way or the other since they're clearly retractable, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if they're treated like some intimate body part that's supposed to be covered except around a lover or when they're in use.

>>93945444
It's a metamorphosis so it's probably a one-time thing, and we've seen Star get very horny since then without suddenly bursting into Mewberty hearts, but I like the idea that they could just "bug out" during really good sex.
I like to think that since Star and Marco are technically different species, they'd have to use magic to conceive, and this would require Star going full Butterfly to do the spell while Marco's rocking her world.
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>Toffee is Eclipsas son

>Eclipsa: WHO DID IT!? WHO KILLED MY SON?

>Star: Weeeeel technically....Ludo did it!

RIP LUDO
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>>93945747
In 2 and a half hours from now I believe.
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>>93945622
I'm pretty sure Disney has some kind of policy for that.
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>>93945643
>Star helping to clean up the wreckage of the castle tower
>Finds bits and pieces of herself everywhere
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>>93945718
Toffee 1 and Toffee 2
One has all his lust for power
the other has all his Power for lust
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>>93945768
>Eclipsa brutally murders Ludo's whole family
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>>93945784
>"Dammit, it blew off! Just as my chest was starting to bud..."
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>>93945767
I feel marginally guilty now that we know she's 14 here, maybe 15 at the most, and not 19 like was originally assumed
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>>93945525
Obviously making a joke, aka dancing around the answer like all the other staff members who have been asked "Hey is the apparent main villain with god-tier regeneration powers really dead halfway through the show?"
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>>93945791
Toffee and Feetto, goin' tah git dat dere weirdgurl 'n git 'is revenge!
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>>93945747
It's at 7:30 est
sorry I don't know how to convert the time zones, east coast fag here
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>>93945609
Did he fuck the bird?
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>>93945829
So three hours then, thank you.
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>>93945703
It's going to be Adam and Eden answering in-character, whether "Star" or "Marco" think he's gone for good or are worried he might come back doesn't really mean anything.
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>>93945767
The cutest, shame about what happens to her chin
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I hope Dennis shows up in the next part
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>>93945822
I don't understand orcish
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Baby's return to examine super star form, when?
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REEEEEEEEEEEEE

TOFFEE LITERALLY HAD ECLIPSA'S FUCKING CHEEK MARK ON HIS SHOULDERS

I SHARE THIS HOBBY WITH RETARDS AND CHILDREN
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>>93945912
>"Jesus christ your highness!"
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>>93945880
there must be some sort of reverse-aging spell

WE MUST FIND IT
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>>93945912
Entire movie felt kind of "wierd" without actual ending. They like killed Toffee and we already get Eclipsa escape scene and then an abrupt ending.


What was even the point of calling it a movie if it felt so disjointed and basicaly turned into 8 episodes one after another.
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https://youtu.be/wZLXZ7zUYYk
>wtf
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>>93943619

baneposting is getting a lot more subtle
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>>93945892
Gon' gatter up da bois for a propah waugh 'n crush da 'ittle bug folks struth git back all da korn 'n clay dey be takin' from us'n all dat 'n git back da roitful monstah clay from dem pretty gurlies cuz I tells ya wut we gon' make Mewni gr8 aggin!
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>>93945918
It was diamonds and clubs. Eclipsa had spades.
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>>93945949
Because it was 8 episodes one after another. I keep explaining this but TV shows do this all the time. It was just the first third of S3

For comparison, you know they're calling the new Ducktales premiere a "movie" even though it's only the first 4 episodes put together. The old Ducktales did this too for it's premiere
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>>93945962
W're s muh choppa?
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>>93945703
>>93945747
>>93945862
I forgot to mention that they are showing a sneak peak of season three so everyone tune in
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>>93945813
I don't think so, especially since we never learned what Toffee's goals were during the war or what he would do after recovering his finger
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>>93946011
>sneak peak of s3
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>>93945949
I recall someone from the SVTFOE crew saying they didn't make the episodes with the intention of making it a movie. That decision was all on the producers or whatever, who decided to group the whole arc into one big viewing event.
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>>93945995
See aul dem pritty gurlies walkin' all ovah mah frog 'n toad takin' up all da land in stealin' all da chilluns 'n puttin' dem in dere stews wit da corn dey take from us ta eat dem like da evil creachas dey are tells you wut we gon' git a propah waugh one day I says when dat warboss lizard git on back ovah here!
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>>93945918
That doesn't really mean anything.
Cheek emblems are not exclusive. The card suit imagery is emblematic of the Butterfly family in general; even after Eclipsa's reign of terror, there's still tons of Spade imagery in Butterfly castle, in the very architecture.
If the skulls were specifically meant to represent Eclipsa and Moon, it's hard to think of a consistent reason why for both of them. It makes sense for him to intimidate Moon by wearing "her skull," but Eclipsa's been "dead" for 300 years.

The most sensible explanation is that they just represent "I'm hunting the heads of Butterflys," and Spades are just one of the emblematic symbols of the family.
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>>93945248
i don't remember how toffee exactly went into the wand.

was it because his hand was holding onto it?
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>>93945604
Wait, Star Vs didn't air in 2013?
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>>93946011
when?
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>>93946019
>we never learned what Toffee's goals were during the war
His army went rogue and killed the Queen when Mewmans and Monsters were on the verge of some kind of peace deal.
He wears skulls decorated like Butterfly Queens on his shoulders.
His motivation was pretty clear.

>or what he would do after recovering his finger
Probably gather his forces again and come back to finish them off, now that Moon was utterly broken and the Kingdom was completely defenseless without magic.
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>>93945551
>they can be killed by normal means
>magic draining due to being literally inside the well of all magic
>normal means
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What if Eclipsa told Moon she loves her?
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>>93946157
Today at 7:30pm est
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>>93946138
The best guess I've heard is that the nuclear magical explosion vaporizes the body, but the force of magic keeps the soul intact, and plants it in the "great hobo stew" of magic for the universe, which seems to be inside the Butterfly's crystal. Toffee lost his body, with only his arm surviving thanks to his enhanced durability, but his essence was planted into the wand, which he has heavily corrupted. It also explains how Toffee's finger ended up in Star's wand, since they both get their source from that magical sea.
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What if a afs;kll
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>>93945000

He does have magic. Did you watch Storm the Castle? He's just subtle about it.
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>>93946182
Threeway with River commences
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>>93946369
Can the Eagle Queen and Buff Frog join in?
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http://itsalmo.st/#starvstime
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>>93946422
>>93946444
>>93946472
>>93946496
This reminds me, where is Area with his starco comic atm? I haven't checked in a while.
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>>93943577
>That worked out well.
It ain't like he was expecting for Star to dip the hardest she's ever dipped and summon up the power to perform what is basically a mid-season/last minute magical girl upgrade and magic nuke him to hell.

Or for Ludo to save the day by crushing his remains under a pillar while he was at his weakest.
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>>93946076
ERE WE GO, ERE WE GO, ERE WE GO!
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>>93946511
they're still fucking like amateurs
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>>93946519
They didn't hug between the Pixitopia and the S1 finale?
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How can Jackie compete?

I don't think the thiccness is enough.
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>>93944095

DEEPEST LORE

No, but seriously, I think Nefcy blows Fat R. R. Martin out of the water in her "wheels within wheels" plot.

I want this ride to keep going!
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>>93943445
Toffee was playing the long game. He wanted to destroy the Mewman's only trump card against Monsters by destroying their source of magic. Then he just wanted to get back at Queen Moon for defeating him.
His end game was to cripple the Mewmans and then destroy them. The reason that he hid inside of Ludo and persuaded Ludo to do his bidding rather than reveal himself outright is because he knew both Queen Moon and potentially Princess Butterfly had the ability to destroy him.
He took over Ludo's minions because, despite being a runt, Ludo was the most organized of the monster factions and knew how to be an effective leader despite being little more than a petulant child. He simply took what Ludo had.
Then he faked defeat against Star with the full knowledge that her whispering spell would cause him to disappear inside Ludo, which he needed to do in order to corrupt the Butterfly family's access to magic (and corrupt all magic for any of his adversaries).
Then he got Ludo to burn their book which meant that the Butterfly family didn't have its spells, family history, or Glossaryck to save them.
Where Toffee ultimately erred was taking Glossaryk's neutrality towards the Mewmans vs. Monsters conflict as a sign of complete apathy towards the entire affair. IIRC, in the Star vs. "lore," Glossaryk exists for the sole purpose of protecting and regulating magic in the Universe.
Toffee's ultimate sin was pride in thinking that he could out-maneuver Glossaryk, who is omnipotent for all intents and purposes.
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>the one time Glossaryck genuinely DOESN'T want Star to do something, she does it
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>>93943191
Butthurt Toffee fans everywhere.
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>>93946632
>Glossaryck genuinely DOESN'T want Star to do something
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>>93946632
He seemed to genuinely not want Star to listen to her Marco memory when they went into the wand, and to genuinely not want Star to ignore him when he told her to get into his eyeball.

But it is sort of hard to tell.
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>>93946632
>She actually fucking did it
>i even told her that the shit was burning hot
>but she actually fucking dipped down in that shit
>fucking madwoman
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>>93946585
You know thinking about it there was a line in the movie that didn't make much sense in it's context

>Toffee: "Poor little butterfly you've lost your wings"

Star never showed her wings in the movie before, or during this. So why did Toffee need to make a comment about it?
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>>93946585
>I want this ride to keep going
Good,
CAUSE THERE IS NO STOP IN SIGHT FOR THIS MADWOMANS PAIN TRAIN
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>>93946774
... it's a metaphor.
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>>93944612
Is it going to be awful like the one the Simpsons did
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>>93946774
He was referring to her being defeated and trapped in his Corrupted Magic goo, unable to escape.
Comparing it to a Butterfly who cant fly any more, trapped for a Lizard to snatch
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When is best girl coming back?
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>>93946736
Yeah, I think Glossarcyk was genuinely concerned for Star's well-being during "Into the Wand." He's not all-powerful and the Wand is clearly some serious, dangerous shit.

But he was obviously baiting Star there, telling her not to do this thing that obviously ended up being hugely advantageous to both of them, while she was fucking pissed at him and sick of his shit.
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>>93946822
No they do literal streams, they're pretty good
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>>93943445
Ignore the retards. We don't know what his actual motivation or larger plan is yet. Recovering his finger and destroying magic was just a setup for something we haven't learned yet.
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>>93946774
It's a joke, anon. Toffee is a smug asshole when he thinks he's already won.
>"Ludo's not here right now. But if you'd like, you can leave a message."
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>>93946761
I am concerned about the limitations of magical contracts.
Is it possible eclipsa managed to bind glossaryck by a magical contract?
I want to know his endgame. Also eclipsa, what's her endgame? I'm worried.
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>>93946774
>he doesn't understand metaphors and word play
Is it any wonder why the majority of people here don't understand shit about storytelling?
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>>93946652
I AM a Toffee fan who was dreading his death before the episode, but after seeing how it played out I don't even know what the fuck he was attempting to accomplish anymore. Like at any point past Season 1.

Well no I guess I actually do. It's more like for once his dumb convoluted plan just finally fucking collapsed in on itself in the end.
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>>93946844
Hekapoo, and Foolduke were in the movie anon.
If your referring to Baby, she wont be around for a bit.
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>>93946845
Into the Wand was some genuinely scary stuff. I still think it's the scariest episode we've had in the series so far. Even Toffee muck wasn't as scary as "That's that's that's that's the thing."
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Does anyone actually like Star?

Are you even supposed to?
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i want to see star do something insectoid
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>>93943165
>Moon doesn't like monsters
>is absolutely fine with Ludo's family

This didn't make any sense to me.
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>>93946913
I am literally in love with Star Butterfly.
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>>93946867
>I want to know his endgame.
Understanding and controlling the magic of the univese
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>>93946844
Soon, if the new intro is any indication.

Who is the character in your pic btw?
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>>93946919
That's because you're an idiot and you don't understand the story.
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>>93946919
Royalty anon.
Buff Frog is peasent from Russian Swamps
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>>93946919
Ludo's family are royalty, Buff Frog's a filthy commoner and also foreign.
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>>93943935
Or her child, maybe?
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>>93946919
There's a difference between crashing in the ghetto and visiting Morgan Freeman.
I didn't expect them to take that angle with Moon's character but it's not contradictory.
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People are mad Toffee "went down like a bitch" like Bill and every other cartoon villain, how does one go down without going down like a bitch? If you aren't a bitch, you don't go down.
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>>93943165
Is there a meaning behind the card symbols on the cheeks?
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>>93946867
Even thought Glossaryck claims to not have a side, I'm pretty sure his end goal is to train Star. The whole "maybe this is what you need" implies he's thinking about how she would learn best.
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>>93946913
not!/sveg/ is hopelessly in love with Star Butterfly.
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>>93946913
Star is genuinely my favorite character, and one of the top reasons I watch this show which otherwise has some serious flaws.
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>>93946882
You forget how many people on 4chan are for-real-not-memeing autistic. Autists take everything literally. It's the same reason obvious sarcasm is met by "j-just pretending to be retarded" nowadays.
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>>93944043
>>93944073
That was all while being manipulated by Toffe
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do you think when star hatched from her egg she was really tiny and had very many legs
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>>93946913
I like all of the characters, so yes

>>93946919
>This didn't make any sense to me.
Moon didn't have any history with Buff Frog. She didn't know him at all. Never met him. Had just learned he used to be part of Ludo's army

Ludo's family, however, likely had history. Moon likely knew them for a long while. Not to mention they were apparently royalty. It's easier to trust those you likely have history with (Even if they are monsters) than common monsters you don't know and were part of plots to mess up your shit.
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>>93946956
>>93946958
So Mewmans are ok with:

>horse head royals
>demon royals
>goblins
>mermaids
>monster royals
>Whatever Kelly is supposed to be
>magical monster like creatures created by Glossaryck
>Mewman royals
>Mewman peasants
>earthling peasants

But monster peasants must be beheaded?
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>>93946950
>That list
>not including best girl
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>>93943165
Lizard fags BTFO
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Question: what are non-mewmans that aren't "monsters?"

As in, is Baby an enslaved monster? Or something else? What about the entire High Commission? They aren't mewmans. Are they also "monsters?"

If they aren't monsters, why are monsters considered monsters when they have such a huge diversity of species?
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>>93944229
Unless she knew it could be him, and that her dark magic could still resurrect him....or he truly is immortal in the most literal sense of the word and will come back no matter what.
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>>93946867
Glossaryck was bound to the magical book of spells.
But now it is destroyed and he was literally sent to a void realm.
Glossaryck said he wasnt dead but calling him that is quite rude, so im assuming hes now just without a home
The Book probably wasnt a prison, more like his castle and soon he will Move into Star's magical notebook she made during the Baby episode.
>>93947043
Earth things are a bit different since they are of another Dimension.
Most creatures like Glossaryck and baby are mostly royal servants.
Kelly is a wild card though. i dont know if she resides in mewni or not
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>>93946903

He wnted to destroy the only thing that could defeat him, so he can win later.
That's all
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>>93947064
>What about the entire High Commission?
Magical constructs. They're closer to "sentient golem" than they are to "monster".
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>>93944361
Also an abusive father. If you're the one your parents treat as a punching bag "to toughen you up" when you're a child that will fuck you up for life.
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>>93946995
by dying at the end of the series instead of not even 3/4s through

no actually his death was pretty cool, I dunno why they chose to do it so early but the scene itself was fine
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>>93946985
No, but at least she should have shown more casual racism and signs of being uncomfortable around Ludo's parents for the characterization to be consistent.
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My daughter, the day you were born, the very forests of Mewni whispered the name.... Eclipsa
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>>93947043
Monsters from Mewni.
All other exo-dimensional and magical species are accepted, it seems.
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>>93947064
The High Commission are inter-dimensional demigods, with two of them being actual gods/living embodiments of some aspect of the multiverse.

Baby seems to be similar in nature to Glossaryk, probably some aspect of Magic.
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Do you think naming him Toffee was planned from the beginning as foreshadowing or Necfy just improvised?
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>>93946578
There is no competition.

There is only a story that needs to be told, and plot devices that help to progress it.
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>>93947081
>Also an abusive family
Fix'd. Dennis was the only one who didn't fuck with Ludo. He doesn't even like his mother, for good reason. She may love him, but she just stood by and let it happen, because she was abused regularly as well.

Ludo's family situation was completely fucked in a way that most people can't understand until they live it.
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>>93943165
where is Daron Nefsy's Q&A taking place tonight?
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>>93947133
>>93947079
I get more of an impression they just came up with the designs and even the creators don't know. They're just making most of this up as they go along.

You can see most of that problem in season 1, when it was apparent there was no real concept of a setting beyond there being monsters for Star to fight.
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>>93947158
>i don't read the thread before posting
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>>93947180
The "monsters aren't all evil" was hinted since Lobster Claws and Mewnipendence Day
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>>93945525
This had better be a fucking joke. Because otherwise they wasted potential for what could have been a great villain. He barely had a backstory and they mentioned nothing about his true goals or motives. If this is it for him then watching this show was a huge mistake.
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>>93947193
>reading 300+ posts
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>>93945525
scalies btfo
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>>93947078
Yeah, I get what he was going for, but "sure hope all the magic EVERYWHERE is gone so I don't get one-shotted, because unlike before I'm incredibly vulnerable to it because my body is literally made of dead magic now" was a huge gamble that didn't exactly seem to pay off.
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>>93947200
>Lobster claw

But that one proved Marco wrong and Star right.
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>>93947200
That's fine. Doesn't have anything to do with how the magical dimensions and beings all work, though.

All that seems pretty haphazardly created in season 2 onward, and still isn't overly important,.
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>>93947212
>being lazy AND illiterate
No sympathy from me, chuckles.
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>>93943165
Anyone else thought his death was really brutal and creepy?

You could literally see his skeleton jutting out.

Geeze.

Just paint the goop red and it's literally guro.
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>>93947270
Star's innocent smile really tied it together.
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>>93946907
They're just friends, anon. No more, no less.
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>>93945525
>Windows 10
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>>93946999
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>>93947270

>death

He's going to reform, probably from the eyeball Ludo has while they're hurtling through the void.
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>>93947139
Jackie turns villain.
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>>93945024
I wonder if Toffee had many fangirls among the monsters. From my perspective, he's a fairly attractive guy, for a monster at least.
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>>93946535
"WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!"
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>>93947134
The moment Toffee appeared, she must have some plan toward him and probably his name.
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>>93947043
"Monster" is a term that means "native of Mewni who got in the way of the Mewman conquest"
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>>93947219
How will they ever recover?
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>>93947139
Agreed. This is going to be the greatest story about realizing that sometimes your soulmate and the love of your life are different people, and about how sometimes what you're looking for has been at your side this whole time.
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>>93947303
So they have no plan but think it looks interesting.
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Toffee has won, you faggots. His goal was to be defeated by Moon's spell and release Eclipsa, his ally. He is the one who does the plans. He knows how this out turns out, and his "death" was an intended result of all the events.
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>>93947270
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>>93947309
>Eclipsa think that Toffee is dead and she wrecks havoc upon Mewni

>he actually hang out with Ludo in different dimension

I'm okay with it.
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>>93945415
I hope Ludo remains as an anti hero of sorts. Then again, the only "hero" we've seen in this show was Marco, and even he is willing to kill. Everyone else's sense of morality is a bit sketchy when we compare it to the traditional heroic archetype.
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>>93947270
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlPnHAYp2Fk
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>>93943165
Eclipsa will be the Kaguya of SvtFoE
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>>93947158
>>93946501
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>>93947398
If he wanted to release Eclipsa then he would just trick Rhombulus instead waiting years to make a plan where he kill himself. It's most likely that Toffee doesn't know that she's alive.
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>>93947309
You're in more denial than I used to be, and I honestly thought S4 would turn horseshow around.
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>>93947436
She's fat
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>>93947419
Star "two nukes weren't enough"Butterfly
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>>93947270
Yeah, kids watch this shit
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>>93947403
>Ducktales
>Woohoo!
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>>93947270
I REALLY hoped they'd do something like this for Toffee's death and I'm so glad they did. You can get away with more when it's not a human and they'd already shown they weren't afraid to have some mild gore stuff as far back as Storm the Castle, so a regenerating monster who's also a villain is license to just go fucking nuts with it.

They went even farther with it than I expected though. What I found most brutal was Star's smile at the end. Somehow I expected angry vengeance rather than just gleefully nuking Toffee; the way it plays out is almost comedic.
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Rebel princess, rebel flag
It's like poetry, they rhyme
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>>93947270
This might be my overall favorite moment of the series, just for how far out of left field it was.
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>>93947460
I don't think Toffee would want to confront Rhombulus while magic was still untouched and powerful. He was immortal, but that crystals are a remarkable prison, and he couldn't have won if trapped. Complex? Indeed, but that's how the Lizzard likes plans.
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>>93947419

>just a bunch of cooked goo hanging from a skeleton

Goddamn that's pretty brutal.
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>>93947392
Not everything needs twenty pages of deep lore behind it, anon.
The cheek emblems are a symbol of the Butterfly family imprinted on them by their ancient connection with magic.
The default symbol of the emblem is not exclusive to any particular Queen or Butterfly; there are two living Butterflys with a five-pointed star symbol, although of different colors.
Only women of the bloodline have cheek emblems. Because we know the emblems are connected to their magic, like Mewberty which is also female-exclusive, we can infer that Mewman men are magically impotent, or at least far less gifted than women.
This justifies why the Butterflys are led by their Queen; their continued existence is dependent on the power of the Queen's magic, trained by Glossaryck and honed by the Wand.

Card suit symbols, Spades and Diamonds in particular, are heavily associated with the Butterfly family and commonly featured in their heraldry and royal architecture.
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>>93947270
Wait, is the show back? I thought we were still on hiatus
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>>93947542
So Toffee is a yankie?
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>>93947592

Bruh
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>>93947592
We are on hiatus. Again.
There were 8 new episodes tho.
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>>93947592
There was a 2-hour special where we got the first episodes of season 3 aired back to back as a movie.

We're on a new hiatus for the rest of season 3 in the fall.
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>>93947398
>His goal was to be defeated by Moon's spell
Yes, that's why he was taken completely off-guard by the fact that she actually permanently harmed him and spent decades plotting a ridiculously elaborate revenge scheme to both regain his finger and neuter magic itself in a single masterstroke.
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>>93947592
The Season 3 Premiere Movie (about 4-5 episodes) happened about a week ago
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>>93947562
He had his body in front of him in S2 finale. I think you're reaching too hard. Think a little bit on how retarded your thoery is and how many plotholes it has.
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>>93947605
Considering he confused The War of Monster Aggression with monster slavery instead of state's rights, yes.
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>>93947580
>Deepest lore
>Like in bottom ocean deep
>Where mermaids life
>Like Jackie
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>>93947592
I missed a fucking lot
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I like how Toffee is the one to get the most severe injuries. Gets his arm blown the fuck off, hole punched in his chest, literally fucking nuked.
And yet he just kept going. If Ludo wouldn't have dropped the rubble on him, what would have happened?
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>>93947633
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>>93943165
Toffee isn't dead and (((Glossaryck))) is doing some hand rubbing in the background.

>pro tip you can't deny this
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>>93947626
Sometimes i wonder if this is the same insane anon who use biblical references to recreate scenes from a kids show.
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>>93947663
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>>93947592
So many braindead bozos in this thread
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Eclipsa looks like a Touhou character. I love her.
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>>93947567
Read descriptions of the victims by survivors of the bombing. There were whole groups of people whose skin and eyes had melted from the heat of the bomb, but wandered around in agony for hours before the acute radiation poisoning killed them. Even miles away, the heat and light flash-burned the pattern of people's clothing into their skin.
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MEGA PLS OR ILL KILL MYSELF
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I feel the movie was more centered around Toffee, Ludo and Moon than Star and Marco. Did anyone else feel the same way? Not that's bad or anything, it was just a bit odd.
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>>93947686
So Jackie will lose and stay single for the rest of her life?
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>>93947683
Toffee was rekt 6 ways to Sunday anon and there's nothing to indicate otherwise. Eclipsa's return and Marco's feelings will be the only obstacles in this season.
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>>93947627
>about a week ago
It was just 2 fucking days ago
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>>93947683
Except Eclipsa's prison was already cracking. Nigga is dead as fuck.
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>>93947661
I think he was already dying anyway even without Ludo's help. His death is neccesery for Eclipsa to get free.
Also it would be stupid to start Buu Saga when Cell is still alive.
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Toffee is still alive, yup. After all, Star only blow him to goo with a blast, but she didn't use the forbidden curse. Her mother tried with a broken wand that was no longer of her, so it didn't work. Toffe will rebuild himself in some time.
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>>93947712
Do a flip
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>>93947661
This was the only time I audibly said "holy shit"
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>>93947683
Throwing some headcanons into the wind without any proof doesn't make you smarter.
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>>93947714
They wanna dangle those two around for a little bit before resolving the crush issue. You can't have them in the same scenes for long without the crush announcement being front and center and they wanted to resolve the Ludo/Toffee plot threads before delving into all that.
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>>93947686
>>93947663
BECOME ONE
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>>93947747
yeah, when Marco stops holding back he can do some damage. Not bad for a human kid.
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>>93947661
He apparently is nearly made out of goo if Marco with his little baby arms and karate "training" from a garage manlet can actually punch a hole into his body.
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>>93947723
What about a loop hole? Toffee is nothing but an eye right now, he's technically dead thus fulfilling the deal. But since he can regenerate so he'll be back.
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>>93947747
That look of pure shock on toffee's face fills me with unrivaled pleasures
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>>93947745
Sorry, I only do hellium.
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>>93947728
Dead. But why didn't moons spell worked a second time?
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>>93947154
>but she just stood by and let it happen,
Shes a woman they like abuse because they are fucked in the head.
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>>93947714
That's because there were three whole episodes where Star didn't show up at all.
They burned a lot of airtime with "La Resistance" and the entire "Marco and the King" episode.
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do you consider Toffee being killed off an acceptable sacrifice for Moon/Toffee to have also been definitively proven not even close to canon?
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>>93947728
To be fair, just because he's dead doesn't mean he can't come back.
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>>93947811
Fuck no
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>>93947747
Its hard to tell if this is just Disney censoring blood and gore or is Toffee really just made out of this goop. Look at Marcos fist, its just covered in this shit.


Maybe Toffee will become the tar monster and will be able to change shapes?
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I'm not sure who is in more denial at this point, Jarcucks who think they're endgame and Satr will move on, or Toffeefags who insist he can still survive and come back
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>>93947811
I like both Toffee getting blasted and the Moon/Toffee ship getting sunk anon
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>>93947782
>why didn't moons spell worked a second time?
Because Toffee had corrupted almost all of the magic left in the dimension. She barely had enough magic just to cut Marco's chains earlier, she couldn't even begin to pull off something huge like the Darkest Spell.

You can see her cheek marks had turned black by that scene. They get their color back after Star purifies the magic sea.
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>>93947813
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>>93947825

>tfw no six armed qt monster gf

Apex suffering.
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>>93944456
>>93945015
>>93947712
Spanish subs, but if you mind you can wait for other anons to deliver.
https://mega.nz/#!MsIzzYRT!r7tfxM0A0p64VdfPetL4sU8o8OuQHzOM7xPKoufypys
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>>93947627
Well that explains it, I was away then

Was it any good?
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So was toffee wearing Star's Grandma's skull on on his shoulder?
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>>93947859
>M-muh coming of age story
>m-muh dead lizardon
>m-muh cute and perfect
blah blah blah just enjoy the show
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what if ludo tried to fuck you
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Rememeber when people thought that Toffee will just possess Marco and other kids on Earth in order to find his finger?
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>>93947352
Its an accurate portrayal of a world where sapient beings are different species not races thus one race will try to dominate the world destroying or enslaving the others. Like imagine if Asians and Blacks were another species we would always alienate them regardless of who they are and kill them as well. Humans actually had an era like this back in Paleolithic Africa where we had genetic cousins allover the place but we humans kicked their asses leaving only humans in Africa to this fucking day.Obviously mewmans are smarter than non Mewmans since they rule the land.
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>>93947884
I don't think so, they didn't have butterfly cheekmarks did they?
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>>93947902
what if you regenerated around Ludo and ended up vomiting him out
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>>93947633

What in the name of all that is holy is happening with her legs?
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>>93947580
>That bulge on the monster holding Eclipsa
How did that relationship even work. Must have been Sparrow-tier.
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>>93947915
I dunno if Mewfolk are inherently smarter, they don't need to be when the magic their leader wields can turn even the most humble shepard into a weapon of mass destruction
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>>93947864
Sorry for asking. I watched the episodes in the wrong order.
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>>93946632
He didn't want her to read the Forbidden chapter without him around either
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>>93947902
What if Ludo came into your room and did a funny scream?
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>>93947902
What if Ludo made a shitty joke and got hit by a car?
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>>93947019
>That was all while being manipulated by Toffe
Eagle and Spider were before he found the wand
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>>93947856
see >>93947867

Toffee is dead, motherfucker. This shit is Eclipsa's show, now.
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>>93947856
They showed "gore" when Toffee got his arm blown off in Storm the Castle, but they definitely wouldn't have been allowed to show Marco's fist covered in blood.
Either way, Toffee's insides are black/green just like the goo when they were pink before. When he regenerates over Ludo, it's the black/green ooze. He probably just pulled himself together with the corrupted magic.
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>>93947902
What if Ludo took off his face and it was Toffee?
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>marco sees his reflection in toffees suit hanger
>marco read eclipsa's chapter
>marco is dead in a suit in one if star's dreams
Nefcy's game of 4D chess is not over yet
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>>93947043
All of those you mentioned aren't monsters in the sense of this show.
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>>93947937
>schl-*POP*
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>>93947935
Midway transformation from fish tail to human legs.
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>>93948001
Only think I dislike is that we never got an explanation for why Toffee was such an evil dick.

I mean they were about to sign a peace treaty that would end fighting between Mewmemes and monsters and Toffee and his goons fuck it up for seemingly no reason.
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>>93947825
>Simon doing art again
>those legs
Fucking nice
>That neck
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>>93947209
>needlessly angry Toffee fucker
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>>93947915
>Blacks and Asians as different species.
In addition this is gonna happen one day in the future.

Blacks will need another 20,000 years to be genetically a different species

Asians will need 40,000 years because they are closer to us thus need more time to become genetically distant.

Also our ethnic groups will one day become full fledge races in the distant future. Isnt evolution amazing?
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>>93947542
A alien or someone from a fantasy world ending up on modern earth and becoming a southaboo seems like a concept that's never been tried.
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>>93948001
Sure because the show staff will surely spoil his return

>guys he will return next ep don't worry LMAO
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>>93947944
Magic takes intelligence to use anon.
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>>93947133
She is an avatar of lewd belly rubs.
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>>93948062
Too bad I'm planning on making mixed babbies til we're all a nice beige
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>>93948037
I may gonna need sauce on that for research purposes.
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>>93948001
>staff opinions on tumblr are canon
Rhombulus and Lekmet are gay right guys
Everyone is bi right guys
Tom is a half-monster with "Mewman passing privilege" right guys
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>>93948065
Don't expect too much or you'll set yourself up for disappointment if it does not happen
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>>93948049
Yeah, he could've at least given a speech about the raw deal monsters got and how the day of Mewmans is coming to an end or something
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>>93947133
I didn't know that Rhombulus was a "god of reason"
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>>93947825
You know once Star masters her Super mode, she can do that thing we said you could do with six arms to Marco whenever she wants
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>>93948085
Plague, please.
control your urges and draw baby getting belly rubbed
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>>93948082
Then why can Star use magic?
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>>93948136
She's a spaz, not an idiot
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>>93948136
Mean.
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>>93947915
>Obviously mewmans are smarter than non Mewmans
I think it might have had more to do with the Mewmans being ruled by a lineage of God Empresses with the power to rewrite the laws of the universe
but that's just me
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>>93948062
I'm not so sure about this, I think humans will keep intermingling until there are no distinct races left.
However, once we begin leaving the planet and start making separate colonies, evolution will surely go different ways in different colonies.
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>>93948113
Nefcy knows he is the most popular character. She will drag his "death" like Walking Dead did with Glenn death at the dumpster. People who think that such major character would be removed while shit characters like Kelly or Mina are still on the show is folling himself
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>>93948082
>>93948136
>>93948159
it requires mainly imagination and creativity
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>>93948110
And their distant descendents will be a different species as well. You cant stop this anon.
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>>93948062
We live in a united world, race mixing will become so common in a thousand years that we would become a universal race close to that of Brazillians.
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No reason my ass. His people was slaved and evicted from their own land. They were living in a swamp full of dangers with no healthy food around, and just riht next to them the Mewnian royalty were having feast of corn. Toffee had all the rights to lead a revolution, even if a weakling monster "king" was trying to surrender.
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>>93948123
Mewberty Star was better. Sailor Moon Star looks too sane.
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>>93947902
what if ludo cast levatato on your dick and forcefully gave you an erection
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>>93948049
I was expecting it to turn out that maybe Toffee's crew would have been willing to go along with the treaty, but the queen (surprised we didn't seem to get a name for her) never actually intended for it to work out that way. Either worked some spell so that she could claim the monsters went rogue, or started an attack herself for the same results.

Like something shady was going down on the Butterfly side and the monsters weren't entirely wrong, and eventually shit just got out of hand and the queen ended up dying.

I expected to find out something more about whatever had happened before the end of the episode, but that was literally it, "rogue monsters," dead mother, the end. Even Toffee's reaction seemed weirdly underplayed like more was going on; I didn't expect the finger to turn out to be so important by the final episode when he just seemed very mildly pissed about it in the earlier one.

It really looked like there was more of a story there and then we just never got it. Like they were almost too vague about certain things.
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>>93948188
And from your mongrel race a clusterfuck of new ethncities would develop and would hate eachother you cant stop human nature faggot.

Blacks hate Mulattoes

Mulattoes hate Quadroons

And it keeps going.
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>>93948197
Agreed.

purple bug best bug
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>>93948049
>we never got an explanation for why Toffee was such an evil dick
Why does every villain need a deep, tragic motivation?
Toffee was a monster warlord who went rogue. He's bloodthirsty, proud, and hateful against Mewmanity. He's a smug sociopath who spent decades researching his enemy and manipulating and enslaving his fellow monsters to achieve his vengeance.

Some people are just assholes.
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>>93944297
>TFOE
fuck
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>>93948218
That would be extremely painfull
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>>93948049
Failed to quote. Here:
>>93948193
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>>93948168
>No distinct races left
What nonsense in 40,000 years every mulatto group that is isolated by geography is a new race
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>>93948188
It's spelled Brazilian you monkey.
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>>93948248
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG
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>>93948049
Nefcy said that he was "like Magneto" so we will most likely see his motivation which is probably see Mewmen suffer for their acts toward monsters
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>>93948248
Oh Gara. He does that for years but is still not rich.
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>syrian government soldier reacts to the battle of Mewni

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJsbYzfKsK0
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>>93948273
In 40000 years our race will be genetically preserved by the Holy Emperor of Terra and his Space Marines.
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Can someone post that comic with Star and Marco about to hug but then Star's horn stabs Marco in the throat?
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>>93948319
"reacts"
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>>93948329
how about post the comic where star gets raped by toffee
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>>93945798
shit that would be brutal
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>>93948273
Nobody will be isolated by geography, going to the other side of the planet will be as easy as going to the shop down the street today. I hope.
Isolated by interplanetary and even interstellar distances, now that's a different story.
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>>93948319
>unironically linking a reaction video
You need to die. Not like "haha I'm being edgy on 4chan" die, but you need to remove yourself from the gene pool if you think that reaction videos in any way, shape, or form are good things to share with people, especially individuals like ourselves who are happy to be your acquaintance as long as you pick the right waifu.
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>>93948349
Which one?
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Has anyone noticed this?
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>>93948362
Either the one where he yells "SURPRISE" and plows into her against Marco's crystal cage, or the other one where River is stoned off his ass will suffice.
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>>93948362
the one with river reacting in a unique way
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>>93948374
No, why is a normal ass sheep in there?
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>>93948374
This has been known for months
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>>93948374
Are you for real?
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When is the obligatory beach episode?
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>>93948374
holy shit, Rhombulus trapped a Heracross!
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>>93948349
>>93948362
>this story will never happen in canon now that Toffee is dead
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>>93948124
He should. He's already indulging in such degeneracy.
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>>93948396
Thats what I've been wondering
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>>93948362
Whats this from??
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>You sound just like my wife
What did he mean by this?
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>>93948429
i was hoping you would post that. was afraid too in the hopes that i would get b&
im a little ashamed that Plagues questionable art is enough to make me nut
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>>93948468
Star is River, and Marco is Moon
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>>93946647
HE KISSED HER
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>S3E09
>that scene where the cracks on Eclipsa's crystal disappear
what did they mean by this?
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>>93948468
Marco is the Moon to Star's River
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>>93948490
it's just a friendly peck in the cheek,dude.
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>Moon
>River

Jesus H. Jiminy Fucking Christ, I may actually be retarded for not getting this before now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_jgIezosVA
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>>93948483
So it's Marco taking the dick.
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>>93948490
Don't worry, it's just on the cheek. Still platonic.
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>>93948526
That's the Queen's duty, anon.
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>>93948541
>She sees your dick
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>>93948493
are you from the future
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>>93948049
It may yet happen. He doesn't need to be alive for his back-story to be explained as long as it still ties into one of the existing plot threads.
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>>93948374
>hypnotoad in bottom right

What did they mean by this?
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>>93948541
>"oh dear Neptune..."
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>was supposed to be a two hour action packed thrilling movie where the characters unite to take back Mewni
>instead it was mostly filler episodes, they couldn't even help themselves to not making a SoL episode (Marco and the King), and only action at the last minute
I don't think this bodes well for the rest of the season. The next 5 or 6 episodes will be back to Star acting like a retard on Earth or helping/defeating the character of the day, and Eclipsa won't even escape from her prison until the midseason finale and won't actually do shit until the season finale. Feels like we've been duped.
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>>93948631
go back to /trash/, pedo.
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>>93946511
Pixiv
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>93948649
Not an argument.
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>>93948631
But in the movie, characters literally did take back Mewni's BUtterfly kingdom from Ludo
I dont think you know what filler actually means
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>>93948631
>was supposed to be
[citation needed]
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>>93943165
Why isn't there more lewd of best Butterfly?
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>>93947877
Honestly? It was really fucking good.
Maybe a bit anticlimactic, but a great start to Season 3
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>>93946501
What's going to happen in 45 minutes?
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>>93948697
You're thinking of Star anon, and there's plenty of lewds
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>>93943165
ITT: ships that are deader than Robin Williams.
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when do you think moon got her cherry popped
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>>93948728
after she lopped off Toffees finger and ended the meeting.
it was out in the open too
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>>93948649
That may well be the stupidest "combat" knife I've ever seen outside of Zombiegear-tier tacticool mall-ninja shit.
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>toffee skullfuck porn only two days after the movie
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>>93948728
I've never been happier. This movie was perfect not just from a narrative standpoint, but also for completely killing off the idea of an alternate universe where Moonfee is a thing. They literally never met each other until she went to parley, and now Monstar can finally go to Hell.

Next up is Nefcy killing off Skyposting.
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>>93947127
i feel like she's more of a Queen Azshara
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>>93948696
That's what the trailers and intro made it seem like.
>>93948672
Episode 1 - Star and Moon traveling point A to B, mostly just setting up for the next episode
Episode 2 - Flashback episode that just shows Eclipsa and how Moon defeated Toffee nothing else
Episode 3 - Retread of any of the "Ludo tries to learn from the book" episodes, only the last scene is important
Episode 4 - Filler
Episode 5 - Filler besides one of the frogs can now talk
Episode 6 - Mostly filler. Marco just fucks around trying to escape from prison and ends up back in prison.
Episode 7 - Mostly them still fucking around in the cuck dungeon until Star gets trapped inside Ludo somehow and then possibly dies but somehow comes back to life and kills Toffee. So now Toffee is dead again, Ludo is in space again, everyone is happy, the wand is fixed, we're right back to square one except now just waiting for Eclipsa to come back and save the show.
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>>93945000
The magic is passed down to daughters.
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>>93948736
When she was 14, right after she blew off Toffee's finger. Grabbed the powdered poofter of a "barbarian", dragged him to her boudoir, and made a fucking MAN out of him.
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>>93948783
Source me, i cannot belive you.
>>93948801
Again you dont know what filler means.
Filler is when a producer adds stuff that never showed up in the original story to the adaptation to slow down the pace and not outrun the manga.
What you consider filler is just any episode without "big wtf moments" and DEEP LORE.
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>>93948728
Just because it's dead doesn't mean people wont ship it
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>>93948831
>Rei / Sora / Shun eyes
>not even at episode 15 yet
What exactly is going on in VRAINS?
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>>93948728
That ship as always been extremely AU. Why would Toffee being dead in the show do anything to AUs?
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>>93948831
You shouldn't be surprised, anon. These are the same people who somehow think they're superior to "weeaboos" while browsing an Ethiopian competitive-eating imageboard designed by and for said "weeaboos".

It's even funnier because they're critiquing an American show designed by ANOTHER goddamn weeaboo.
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>Eclipsa and Moon lost their moms as a child.
>Eclipsa will be back.
>Star still figuring out her path.

ECLIPSA WILL PUT A WEDGE BETWEEN STAR AND MOON. MOON'S LIFE WILL BE ECLIPSED.
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>>93948854
As on now, anal raping on both sides.
But hey, we duel on the ground next episode
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Why did people assume the Toffee menace is going to be dragged for the entire season? Did you honestly not expect them to resolve the pressing issues early one and get back to regular SoL very soon? 6 segments until Star and Marco reunion is honestly longer than I thought it was going to be.
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Please someone make a thread that isn't the false flagging bullshit up now
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>>93948728
Don't disrespect Mr. Williams like that
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>>93948736
>Wait is all this goop you?
Toffee popped star's cherry CONFIRMED
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>>93948728
Imagine the creators when season 1 aired.

>"Ok, we gave Star the following options: Marco, Oscar, Tom, Princess Marco, Pony Head, Mr. Diaz, Janna, Queen Moon and Jackie. Marco has Jackie, Janna, Tom, Queen Moon, Mrs. Diaz, the Principal and Star. Who is the internet shipping?"
>"...Toffee and Queen Moon."
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>>93948966
Can't pop what Marco already did while he was asleep.
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T-minus 30 min till livestream
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>>93948926
>Why did people assume the Toffee menace is going to be dragged for the entire season?
Because the new intro showed Star and Marco confronting Ludo/Toffee with Glossarcyk at his side. So -obviously- that wasn't going to change right at the start of the season.
People who understand narrative structure knew the stakes were raised way too high and Toffee had to be dealt with before we returned to any kind of business as usual, but it was unreasonable to assume that Toffee would be defeated outright.

We didn't find out they were playing us like a damn fiddle until the day before the movie, when a screenshot of the real new intro spoiling Star's new wand was posted online:
https://www.tvinsider.com/272833/eden-sher-star-vs-forces-of-evil-disney-xd/
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>>93949021
Where can I find the live stream?
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>>93947420
>Bringing up Ninja Mango on /co/
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So is Star's bug form purple or yellow now? Is she only yellow when she's full of super magic or did she undergo a change? I want bug star to be a recurring thing, especially if she's horny.
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>>93949078
Star > Dipping Star (Glossy-ken) > Mewberty Form (Super Star) > Morning Star (Super Star II)
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>>93949052
Disney XD youtube
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>>93949056
wut
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>>93949106
It's 2 > 1, not 1 > 2 anon
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>>93943165
I bet Toffee was her pet lizard. She practiced all sorts of magics on him creating the lizard we see until he was reduced to a puddle of goo and bones.
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>>93947297
Not a problem if you have a router with a firewall
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>>93948926
I expected the Toffee problem to be resolved at the beginning, but until literally the day before the premiere when the new wand was shown and people began guessing the ending, I didn't think "resolved" = "ended through Toffee literally fucking dying"

I mean in the episode itself it wasn't surprising but for literal weeks before that it seems most anons thought he'd win again.
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>>93949078
My interpretation was that Star had temporarily tapped into the entire magic sea, and was EVEN FURTHER BEYOND
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>>93948697
Because she is pure unlike her whore daughter
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>>93949157
To give them credit, he almost did. He only failed because Star finally realized what to do inside the wand.
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>>93949032
I don't think the intro is going to change in any way other than showing the new wand.
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>>93949180
Where the fuck are these comics? I can't find them anywhere.
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>>93948728
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>>93949203
On Amazon
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>>93947420
But she is clearly not a last minute asspull
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>>93949199
You don't put a scene in the intro that's going to be immediately irrelevant after the season premiere.
Considering the setting and framing of the shot, in Rhombus's dimension with the full moon behind him, I wouldn't be surprised if they replaced him with Eclipsa. It's right after they pass her silhouetted/empty crystal too.
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Anyone else want the 30 minute episodes moreso after these new episodes.
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>>93949180
>pure
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the new Star form was referred to as "God-
Mode Star" in the storyboards

http://arythusa.tumblr.com/post/163110447072/some-shots-i-boarded-for-the-battle-of-mewni
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>>93949352
>God Mode Star
SOON
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>>93949352
The final wand design and Star's hair both look a lot better than the storyboard. Thanks to Nefcy, probably.
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Reminder that the Star & Marco LIVE stream starts in 10 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP2mzK1iQWE
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based sabrina just posted some of her toffee boards
http://arythusa.tumblr.com/post/163110447072/some-shots-i-boarded-for-the-battle-of-mewni
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>>93949564
You're a bit late to the party.
Also, since when in Sabrina considered based here?
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>>93948362
>training bra
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>>93949564
Do you guys think sometimes people from the staff come here and compliment themselves just to see what people say?
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>>93949624
...
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>>93949624
I hope not.
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>>93949610
I see you're a man of culture as well
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>>93949624
doubt sabrina would want to touch this place with a 10 foot pole
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Livestream incoming
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1 MINUTE
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Which thread is decent enough to move to?
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>>93949648
>star will never suck the meat out of your home made taquito

WHY
FUCKING
LIVE
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I still feel that they kind of rushed everything with Toffee, considering his motives for going against the peace treaty and destroying the wand are never really explained or so much as hinted at..

But I can't wait for Best Queen to return.
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>>93949721
Let's make a new one for the stream
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live chat in
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>>93948797
>Skyposting

What's that?
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>>93949647
what a wild ride
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>>93949733
yeah right now I don't even know what the point of him is
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Eden Sher has no idea what she's doing.
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>>93949517
Why does Star have a southern accent

THIS ISNT THE REAL KRUSTY
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>>93948797
>Star tries out the Sky hairstyle in front of a mirror
>mugs for the camera
>"... nah!"
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these livestreams are so terrible
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>>93949945
just close your eyes and let Adam's voice take you to new levels of ecstasy
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>>93947686
wait. what if after moon rejected him, he fucked a mermaid and actually WAS Jackie's dad?
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>>93950095
You can't fuck mermaids, anon.

Only reverse mermaids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOLaTBMxmbk
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>>93950186
>You can't fuck mermaids, anon.
Not with that attitude.
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>>93949789
I think they'll show us his backstory and motives in a calm slow way (since he is deadv
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"Cute smile, cute self, cute... toosh"
I fucking keked
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>"The movie will premiere in July, the rest of Season 3 will air in the Fall"
This is fine
>hiatus until fucking November
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>>93951111
It's really sad to see the Western animation industry choked to death by hiatuses everywhere you turn.




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