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songbird solo when?
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>>94579994
Name 5 villains she can fight who aren't the Grapplers or Angar

What would the book even be about?
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>>94579994
Never
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>>94580046
Cyclone
Crimson Cowl
Skein
Dr. Dorcas
Scourge of the Underworld
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Who even is she? Black Canary's long lost daughter?
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>>94580082
literally who?
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>>94579994
Shoot yourself in the fucking head, S/D.
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>>94579994
You don't want that.
She already has pink hair, who know what SJW Marvel would do with hair.

She would probably have a side-shaved cut, became lesbian or some shit.

It is better she stay away from Marvel until thing improved. She was great in New Avengers by Ewing and I want to remember her that ways.

I don't what to see a wretched, corrupted version of her.
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>>94579994
>After years of serving under the male patriarchy, Songbird decides to spread her wings. Osborn is recruiting a new group of potential Thunderbolts and Melissa is determined to show them that they need no man to help in this day. She is going to teach them to sing!

YAAS QUEEN
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>>94579994
If Marvel stays the course of pushing way too many titles at once? Probably a year or so.
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>>94580153
Didn't she already have an arc where her hair was shaven and sexual tension with female teammates?
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>>94580198

>YASS QUEEN
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>>94580153
>>94580249
I wouldn't call it a sidecut

But yeah this was not a good look
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>>94580198
My point exactly. With Marvel lower your expectation, then lower them again. Because they always double down.

>>94580249
Yes, if I remember well, the drawing was fucking ugly. She was captured by someone or something. It was bad quality work.
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>>94580249
She got a mohawk once thanks to the starfish man that operated on her brain
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>>94579994
If you haven't you should read Avengers Forever. She has a good role in the team up and it was one of the best work Kurt Busiek ever did. Way before he descended into (Current year) insanity.
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>>94580198
modern Marvel is so bad, you just know it would be this
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>>94580398
>Way before he descended into (Current year) insanity.
Which never happened in the first place but oh wait, I forgot you're not allowed to express any politicial opinion that doesn't suck the God Emperor's dick.
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>>94580398
and yet he keeps winning eisners for astro city
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>>94580198
>guest starring America
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>>94580463
https://youtu.be/c43xpMTgyyE?t=36s

This is insanity. THis guy is a professio
That didn't prevent me from buying Avengers Forever, JLA/Avengers and his Avengers run.

But you got to admit his far from his prime, not unlike Waid. Great writer, but now a shell of their former selve. Like Songbird would be if they wrote her.
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>>94580571
You mean, like Squirrel Girl did ?
Eisners are no longer a proof of quality.
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>>94580249
There is no sexual tension between Songbird and Moonstone
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>>94580640
I will never understand people like the diversity and comcs guy being this triggered by being blocked on twitter. That's some prime butthurt right there.
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>>94580719
He realized that twitter is for shitposting.
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>>94580640
oh no, Busiek blocked Diversity and Comics. I would block him too, the guy is a total fuckwad
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>>94580713
no?
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>>94580785
The way he blamed Busiek for the current state of Marvel was as insane as it was stupid, considering he has not written anything for Marvel in years, other than the one prologue for Zubbolts. And what he has written for Marvel was all quality material that Marvel made the mistake to either ignore or shit on.

I don't blame Busiek at all for blocking that crazy attention whore.
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>>94580713
>im-fucking-plying
Nigga, the only reason Melissa and Karla aren't hatefucking constantly is because... Well actually, there isn't any good reason they aren't constantly hatefucking.
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>>94580719
I don't think they are trigger by the blocking but by the constant refusal to see the opinion of people who disagree.

If you block everyone you disagree with, then you got confirmation bias.
Plus, you see that these writers aren't really good people. I always picture Kurt Busiek as someone serious because of the ways he handle continuity.

Now he see him like he is. Why can't he just use his Tumblr for profesionnal/non-political stuff like promoting his book, speaking about continuity trivia ? I didn't need to like a guy to buy his stuff, but now I will be more cautions around his new stuff, or he will be my second pick if I can only by one book.

Most of the DC staff look like decent people, but maybe it is because they don't shit post.

I think Geoff Johns is a cool guy who still love Comics.

>>94580785
Captain Cunning is worse I think. My preferred order is Douglas Ernst > Diversity & Comics > Captain Cunning.

>>94580463
I am not even American.
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>>94580920
Anon, the only thing Busiek is still writing is Autumnlands and Astro City. It's his and other creators' prerogative to block people as they please, just as it's yours to find that off-putting.

But of all the problems' the comics industry has right now, creators blocking retards that come at them with some insane screeching is very low on the list. Frankly, it would be better if they just muted or blocked people instead of engaging.
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>>94580920
>Why can't he just use his Tumblr for profesionnal/non-political stuff
Because people are entitled to use their twitter for whatever the fuck they want? Does widdle little babby want a safe space?
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>>94580918
I said

No
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>>94580920
>youtuber faggotry
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>>94580920
the only way to handle trolls like Diversity and Comics is to block them, otherwise you give them more coverage and promote their shitty channel. You are right about confirmation bias but this is not one of those cases, this is simply how you deal with trolls
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>>94581047
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>>94581245
NO
SEXUAL
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>>94580046
wrecking crew
zemo
aliens
Cyclone
Black Bolt
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>>94581245

more or sauce on who drew this?
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>>94580046
Still more villains than Captain Marvel... and she still has a solo even with shitty sales and 5 relaunches.

Songbird is a great character but I doubt she will have a solo someday, if I were a Marvel writer I would put her on my team.
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>>94582456
Captain Marvel has aviation bullshit, feminism and aliens to fall back on for her plots.
They killed SWORD and gave her Alpha Flight to replace it

What can they do for Songbird?
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>>94582506
>What can they do for Songbird?
Wrestling, prison, redeption themes. She was homeless twice too but I doubt nuMarvel would touch on that.
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>>94582953
So basically a 70s exploitation movie?
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>>94583234
Yes, kind of.
They can always use the UCWF and explain that since the Inhuman Fart cloud created a lot of Inhumuggas the sport is booming again.
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>>94582506
bring back troll and dallas riordan
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>>94581890
it's inflation porn
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>>94584748

Of fucking course

Was too good to be true
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>>94584748

That's not sauce yet on who made it.
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>>94584748
sauce?
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I'm glad this shit was scrapped and we got a proper figure now
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>>94582456
Carol's a far better character than Songbird, though.
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>>94582953
We could see her reunite with Chen and Andreas.
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>>94587216
Should have added this pic.
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>>94584748
I don't believe you.
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>>94584748
FINISH IT!
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>>94587456
why
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>>94586999
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She's not an A-lister, legacy name, or character who gained unexpected popularity from a movie appearance, so never.
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>>94587456
God fucking damn it, S/D.
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Black Bolt vs songbird who wins?
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>>94587837
No chance if it is the classic Black Bolt, nu Black Cuck maybe
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>>94588364
Dazzler beat Black Bolt twice.
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>>94588390
Dazzler is really OP, she managed to enter a black hole to rescue some artifact for Galactus once.
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>>94588469
Dazzler's power is to literally absorb all sound around her. The second BB opens his mouth she wins.

Songbird can't do shit to Black Bolt
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>>94588892
wtf? when did she become this overpowered? All sound means all pressure waves meaning she can absorb all kinetic energy. She is Sabastian Shaw on steroids?
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>>94588960
Basically. Also if she dies, her body is replaced with another instance of herself from a parallel universe and she is fighting fit.
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>>94588960
Transforming sound into light has always been her power
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>>94588985
That's some D4C bullshit. Source?
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>>94588998
yeah, to an extent, her upper limit was always really low. A bomb would go off and she couldn't absorb that. She just absorbed noise. So black bolt would blow her into oblivion

>>94588985
yeah, she's multiversal now..don't quite get it. But I did like Thodazzlor
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>>94589226
Except she's absorbed Black Bolt's voice several times now

She's a hard counter to him
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>>94586999
Pre-dyke Carol, maybe.
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>>94589226
>yeah, to an extent, her upper limit was always really low. A bomb would go off and she couldn't absorb that. She just absorbed noise. So black bolt would blow her into oblivion

The difference is that Black Bolt's voice is sound that creates a blast, not a blast that creates sound.

So it makes perfect sense that Dazzler (whose entire thing is converting sound into light) could nullify Black Bolt's voice before it formed a shockwave that could hurt her.
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>>94580046

Why is this even a concern ever?
For that matter, why do writers let this be a concern?

Take Captain Marvel.
Carol barely has any villains?
Make some goddamn villains.
Songbird has almost no villains?
Make some fucking villains.

How fucking lazy and creatively bankrupt are current writers that "Not enough villains" is ever a goddamn concern when trying to push a hero. If anything it's a golden opportunity to more original villains and cycle out some of the older ones to keep shit fresh.
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>>94590264
>sound that creates a blast, not a blast that creates sound.
that makes no sense, they are exactly the same thing, a pressure wave
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>>94590441
Yeah, it's not like Iron Man has any iconic villains. They just faked them in all but name
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>>94590769
Mandarin was really weird
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>>94590769

I'm not even talking about movies right now. I'm strictly talking comics.

All of these C-list heroes that they keep trying to push up into the A-list have no villains, and those same heroes barely get any of them.

How many times have you seen them give some C-lister or a new hero their own book, only to have them go up against a more popular hero's villains?
>"Oh boy, a bank robbery...Time to prove myself...OH NO! It's The Joker™ and Two-Face™! However will I manage without the aid of Batman who is uncharacteristically not here despite the fact that The Joker is keeping Bruce Wayne and his faithful butler hostage! Good thing I've got McGuffin powers..."
>"Man oh man, I've been doing this hero thing for years but nobody knows who I am an-What was that? OH NO! It's The Sinister Six™ featuring The Superior Doctor Octopus™! And they're harassing that biracial youth group who are just trying to earn money for their Christian soccer league! This looks like a job for Generic-Man!"

Throwing longstanding and popular villains at literal who's? People see them job to some nobody and they get mad.
Throwing new villains at longstanding and popular heroes? People want to know who this fucking guy is and what makes him a worthy foe for Batman/Superman/Spider-Man/The X-Men when they already have a pretty packed rogue's gallery.

The answer to their problem just involves swapping one part from each scenario with the part from the other, and they barely ever do that.
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>>94591040
now you are just changing the argument and making it about identity politics. I'm not interested in talking to you anymore, don't ruin a decent thread
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>>94591115

Identity politics? There's nothing political about any of this you bidoof.

I'm saying that it makes absolutely no goddamn sense for writers to constantly push new villains nobody gives a shit about onto already popular heroes with an expanded rogues gallery of existing popular villains, while giving newer heroes or heroes they're trying to push into the limelight absolutely nothing to work with.
What the fuck is political about that statement?
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>>94590735
The sound from Black Bolt's voice creates the pressure wave. But Dazzler can convert it into light before the pressure wave can form.
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>>94590441
This. Name any long-time A-lister. They didn't start out with a great rogues' gallery, it had to be created for them.
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>>94580046
Why not have Zemo as her nemesis? Given their history it would make sense.
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>>94590441
How long do you think new books get to develop a new Rogues gallery before they're on the cancellation block?

Most books can't even make it a year these days. And you think wasting time developing brand new villains is going to sell?
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>>94588892
both times she absorbed his voice she could barely hold it and it was only one. Two words and she explodes or he could use all those other powers he has that don't involve his voice.
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>>94593413
This isn't exactly a whisper

He shouted and she took it all
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I'd rather have a not-terrible Thunderbolts book.
It's been a hell of a long time now.

I cannot believe Zub was trying to drum up fan support for him to return to the title.
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>>94593449
The point is that taking in his voice damages her. She could barely stand afterwards and more recently in IvX she said holding was starting to hurt her. BB could over load her in theory, it doesn't cost him energy to talk.
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>>94593449
>Dazzler can absorb BB's voice
>vulcan couldn't

Is he the weakest Omega level of in history?
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>>94590194
Carol as Ms. Marvel was the same shit character she is now.
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>>94579994
She should get a LS where she gets framed, and has to clear her name as the Thunderbolts hunt her down.
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>>94595569
There is a good chance we are going to see them together in the maybe-upcoming Thunderbolts movie.
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Was I the only one who felt some sexual tension between her and the recently-escaped Grapplers?
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>>94590264
>>94589226

The state of /co/ and all these Casuals. Black Bolt's powers aren't sonic based, they're electron control.
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>>94596203
Can't wait for Songbird defeating the villain of the movie with a rap battle
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>>94595613
"evil" Songbird and "good" Moonstone should be fun
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...what exactly is the logic behind this picture?
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>>94600818
Characters that will never ever be playable in a fighting game
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>>94593563
What if she actually uses his voice offensively against him, turning it into a high-powered laser focused right at his vocal cords?
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>>94586999

Get the fuck out. Take your agenda bitch and walk, mandyke shit
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>>94600752
No bully!
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>>94591040
>People see them job to some nobody and they get mad.
comic nerds are full of vitriol from never getting any pussy in high school and are going to get mad regardless of what you write so it literally does not matter
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braidbird best bird
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>>94584748
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