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TOP 100 COMIC BOOKS - Based on Total Unit Sales of Products Invoiced in July 2017
> 1. DARK DAYS THE CASTING #1 (DC)
> 2. ASTONISHING X-MEN #1 (MAR)
> 3. BATMAN #26 (DC)
> 4. BATMAN #27 (DC)
> 5. SECRET EMPIRE #6 (MAR)
> 6. SECRET EMPIRE #7 (MAR)
> 7. STAR WARS #33 (MAR)
> 8. DEADPOOL KILLS MARVEL UNIVERSE AGAIN #1 (MAR)
> 9. WALKING DEAD #169 (MR) (IMA)
> 10. SPIDER-MEN II #1 (MAR)
> 11. ALL STAR BATMAN #12 (DC)
> 12. STAR WARS DARTH VADER #3 (MAR)
> 13. STAR WARS DARTH MAUL #5 (MAR)
> 14. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #30 SE (MAR)
> 15. DETECTIVE COMICS #960 (DC)
> 16. DETECTIVE COMICS #961 (DC)
> 17. PETER PARKER SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN #2 (MAR)
> 18. FLASH #26 (DC)
> 19. FLASH #27 (DC)
> 20. X-MEN GOLD #7 SE (MAR)
> 21. JUSTICE LEAGUE #24 (DC)
> 22. JUSTICE LEAGUE #25 (DC)
> 23. SUPERMAN #26 (DC)
> 24. EDGE OF VENOMVERSE #2 (MAR)
> 25. SUPERMAN #27 (DC)
> 26. X-MEN BLUE #7 SE (MAR)
> 27. OLD MAN LOGAN #26 (MAR)
> 28. X-MEN GOLD #8 SE (MAR)
> 29. WONDER WOMAN #26 (DC)
> 30. WONDER WOMAN #27 (DC)
> 31. DEADPOOL KILLS MARVEL UNIVERSE AGAIN #2 (MAR)
> 32. SAGA #45 (MR) (IMA)
> 33. EDGE OF VENOMVERSE #3 (MAR)
> 34. ACTION COMICS #983 (DC)
> 35. X-MEN BLUE #8 SE (MAR)
> 36. ACTION COMICS #984 (DC)
> 37. DEADPOOL #33 SE (MAR)
> 38. HARLEY QUINN #23 (DC)
> 39. WEAPON X #5 WMD (MAR)
> 40. TITANS #13 (DC)
> 41. MIGHTY THOR #21 (MAR)
> 42. STAR WARS DOCTOR APHRA #9 (MAR)
> 43. HARLEY QUINN #24 (DC)
> 44. CAPTAIN AMERICA STEVE ROGERS #19 SE (MAR)
> 45. STAR WARS DOCTOR APHRA #10 (MAR)
> 46. SUICIDE SQUAD #21 (DC)
> 47. JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #10 (DC)
> 48. DEFENDERS #3 (MAR)
> 49. SUICIDE SQUAD #22 (DC)
> 50. WEAPON X #6 WMD (MAR)
> 51. SUPER SONS #6 (DC)
> 52. NIGHTWING #24 (DC)
> 53. TEEN TITANS #10 (DC)
> 54. JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #11 (DC)
> 55. VENOM #152 (MAR)
> 56. ALL NEW WOLVERINE #22 (MAR)
> 57. NIGHTWING #25 (DC)
> 58. AVENGERS #9 SE (MAR)
> 59. STAR WARS POE DAMERON #17 (MAR)
> 60. SPIDER-MAN #18 (MAR)
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> 61. DOCTOR STRANGE #23 SE (MAR)
> 62. DEADPOOL #34 SE (MAR)
> 63. HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS #24 (DC)
> 64. SPIDER-MAN DEADPOOL #19 (MAR)
> 65. HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS #25 (DC)
> 66. UNCANNY AVENGERS #25 SE (MAR)
> 67. TRINITY #11 (DC)
> 68. GREEN LANTERNS #26 (DC)
> 69. DAREDEVIL #23 (MAR)
> 70. GREEN LANTERNS #27 (DC)
> 71. INVINCIBLE IRON MAN #9 (MAR)
> 72. CABLE #3 (MAR)
> 73. BLACK PANTHER #16 (MAR)
> 74. BATMAN THE SHADOW #4 (DC)
> 75. ALL NEW GUARDIANS OF GALAXY #5 (MAR)
> 76. THANOS #9 (MAR)
> 77. AQUAMAN #26 (DC)
> 78. TRUE BELIEVERS AMAZING FANTASY STARRING SPIDER-MAN #1 (MAR)
> 79. CHAMPIONS #10 SE (MAR)
> 80. GREEN ARROW #26 (DC)
> 81. SEVEN TO ETERNITY #7 (IMA)
> 82. SPIDER-MAN MASTER PLAN #1 (MAR)
> 83. GREEN ARROW #27 (DC)
> 84. JEAN GREY #4 (MAR)
> 85. RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS #12 (DC)
> 86. GO GO POWER RANGERS #1 (BOO)
> 87. PUNISHER #14 (MAR)
> 88. DAREDEVIL #24 (MAR)
> 89. INFAMOUS IRON MAN #10 (MAR)
> 90. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN RENEW YOUR VOWS #9 (MAR)
> 91. DEATHSTROKE #21 (DC)
> 92. BATWOMAN #5 (DC)
> 93. STAR WARS ROGUE ONE ADAPTATION #4 (MAR)
> 94. NEIL GAIMAN AMERICAN GODS SHADOWS #5 (MR) (DAR)
> 95. ALL NEW GUARDIANS OF GALAXY #6 (MAR)
> 96. TOTALLY AWESOME HULK #21 WMD (MAR)
> 97. BATMAN BEYOND #10 (DC)
> 98. WILD STORM #6 (DC)
> 99. GENERATION X #4 (MAR)
> 100. IRON FIST #5 (MAR)


>Among the premier publishers, IDW Publishing's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles/Usagi Yojimbo One-Shot was the publisher's top ranked book at #145.


Sauce: https://www.previewsworld.com/Article/198417-Exclusive-Julys-Top-100-Best-Selling-Comics
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TOP 100 GRAPHIC NOVELS & TRADE PAPERBACKS - Based on Total Unit Sales of Products Invoiced in July 2017
> 1. MONSTRESS TP VOL 02 (MR) (IMA)
> 2. RICK & MORTY TP VOL 01 (ONI)
> 3. STAR WARS TP VOL 05 YODAS SECRET WAR (MAR)
> 4. CURSE WORDS TP VOL 01 (MR) (IMA)
> 5. FLASH TP VOL 03 ROGUES RELOADED (REBIRTH) (DC)
> 6. LEGEND OF KORRA TP VOL 01 TURF WARS PT 1 (DAR)
> 7. BATMAN TMNT TP VOL 01 (DC)
> 8. BATMAN TMNT ADVENTURES TP (IDW)
> 9. BLACK SCIENCE TP VOL 06 (MR) (IMA)
> 10. SERENITY HC VOL 05 NO POWER IN THE VERSE (DAR)
> 11. HE MAN THUNDERCATS TP (DC)
> 12. JUSTICE LEAGUE TP VOL 03 TIMELESS (REBIRTH) (DC)
> 13. MS MARVEL TP VOL 07 DAMAGE PER SECOND (MAR)
> 14. DC SUPER HERO GIRLS A KIDS COLORING BOOK TP (DC)
> 15. DEATHSTROKE TP VOL 02 THE GOSPEL OF SLADE (REBIRTH) (DC)
> 16. SAGA TP VOL 07 (MR) (IMA)
> 17. RICK & MORTY TP VOL 05 (ONI)
> 18. SHADE THE CHANGING GIRL TP VOL 01 EARTH GIRL MADE EASY (MR) (DC)
> 19. DARKNESS BATMAN 20TH ANNIVERSARY CROSSOVER COLL TP (MR) (IMA)
> 20. SHE-HULK TP VOL 01 DECONSTRUCTED (MAR)
> 21. BERSERK TP VOL 38 (MR) (DAR)
> 22. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN TP VOL 06 WORLDWIDE (MAR)
> 23. SAGA TP VOL 01 (MR) (IMA)
> 24. MIGHTY THOR TP VOL 02 LORDS OF MIDGARD (MAR)
> 25. BIRTHRIGHT TP VOL 05 (IMA)
> 26. WONDER WOMAN BY GREG RUCKA TP VOL 02 (DC)
> 27. BY CHANCE OR PROVIDENCE TP (IMA)
> 28. TOKYO GHOST DLX ED HC (MR) (IMA)
> 29. PUNISHER TP VOL 02 END OF THE LINE (MAR)
> 30. PAPER GIRLS TP VOL 01 (IMA)
> 31. EMPRESS TP BOOK 01 (MAR)
> 32. MONSTRESS TP VOL 01 (MR) (IMA)
> 33. DAREDEVIL BACK IN BLACK TP VOL 04 IDENTITY (MAR)
> 34. INHUMANS VS X-MEN HC (MAR)
> 35. LEGEND OF ZELDA LEGENDARY ED GN VOL 05 FOUR SWORDS (VIZ)
> 36. INJUSTICE GROUND ZERO HC VOL 01 (DC)
> 37. DOCTOR STRANGE SORCERER SUPREME OMNIBUS HC VOL 01 (MAR)
> 38. BLACK ROAD TP VOL 02 A PAGAN DEATH (MR) (IMA)
> 39. MERCENARY SEA TP VOL 01 (IMA)
> 39. CROGAN ADVENTURES COLOR GN VOL 01 CATFOOTS VENGEANCE (ONI)
> 41. GOTHAM ACADEMY SECOND SEMESTER TP VOL 01 (DC)
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> 42. DEADPOOL CLASSIC TP VOL 18 DEADPOOL VS MARVEL (MAR)
> 43. ETHER TP VOL 01 DEATH OF THE LAST GOLDEN BLAZE (DAR)
> 44. FANTASTIC FOUR INHUMANS TP ATLANTIS RISING (MAR)
> 45. GUARDIANS OF GALAXY NEW GUARD TP VOL 02 WANTED (MAR)
> 46. PLANETARY TP BOOK 01 (DC)
> 47. GAMORA MEMENTO MORI TP (MAR)
> 48. EXTRAORDINARY X-MEN TP VOL 04 IVX (MAR)
> 49. CLEAN ROOM TP VOL 03 WAITING FOR THE STARS (MR) (DC)
> 50. WONDER WOMAN TP VOL 01 THE LIES (REBIRTH) (DC)
> 51. PAPER GIRLS TP VOL 02 (IMA)
> 52. FROSTBITE TP (MR) (DC)
> 52. MAGE TP BOOK 01 HERO DISCOVERED VOL 01 (IMA)
> 54. LOOSE ENDS TP (MR) (IMA)
> 55. NIGHTWING TP VOL 06 TO SERVE AND PROTECT (DC)
> 56. UNCANNY X-MEN SUPERIOR TP VOL 04 IVX (MAR)
> 57. BATMAN TP VOL 01 I AM GOTHAM (REBIRTH) (DC)
> 58. MMW SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN HC VOL 01 (MAR)
> 59. MIDNIGHTER AND APOLLO TP (DC)
> 59. NOVA RESURRECTION TP (MAR)
> 61. FLASH REBIRTH DLX COLL HC BOOK 01 (DC)
> 62. WATCHMEN TP (DC)
> 63. KILLING MARS TP (MR) (BIG)
> 64. SCALPED TP BOOK 01 (MR) (DC)
> 65. HP LOVECRAFT HOUND & STORIES TP TANABE (MR) (DAR)
> 66. AVENGERS BY JONATHAN HICKMAN OMNIBUS HC VOL 01 (MAR)
> 67. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN EPIC COLLECTION TP KRAVENS LAST HUNT (MAR)
> 68. JUSTICE LEAGUE REBIRTH DLX COLL HC BOOK 01 (DC)
> 69. UNCANNY AVENGERS UNITY TP VOL 04 RED SKULL (MAR)
> 70. WONDER WOMAN TP VOL 02 YEAR ONE (REBIRTH) (DC)
> 71. SOLID STATE TP (IMA)
> 72. US AVENGERS TP VOL 01 AMERICAN INTELLIGENCE MECHANICS (MAR)
> 73. SAGA TP VOL 02 (MR) (IMA)
> 74. STAR WARS LEGENDS EPIC COLL ORIGINAL MARVEL YEARS TP VOL 02 (MAR)
> 75. VALERIAN COMPLETE COLLECTION HC VOL 01 (CIN)
> 76. TOTALLY AWESOME HULK TP VOL 03 BIG APPLE SHOWDOWN (MAR)
> 77. SOUTHERN CROSS TP VOL 02 ROMULUS (MR) (IMA)
> 78. BLACK SINISTER HC (DAR)
> 78. CAPTAIN AMERICA EPIC COLLECTION TP BUCKY REBORN (MAR)
> 80. BATMAN TP VOL 01 THE COURT OF OWLS (N52) (DC)
> 81. SEX CRIMINALS TP VOL 01 (MR) (IMA)
> 82. BATMAN THE KILLING JOKE SPECIAL ED HC (DC)
> 83. DARK TOWER GUNSLINGER BORN TP NEW PTG (MAR)
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> 83. MIGHTY THOR PREM HC VOL 03 ASGARD SHIAR WAR (MAR)
> 85. NOCTURNALS SINISTER PATH GN VOL 01 (BIG)
> 86. INFINITY GAUNTLET TP (MAR)
> 87. PREACHER TP BOOK 01 (MR) (DC)
> 87. SUPERGIRL THE SILVER AGE TP VOL 01 (DC)
> 89. SAGA TP VOL 06 (MR) (IMA)
> 90. STREET ANGEL GANG HC (IMA)
> 91. VALERIAN COMPLETE COLLECTION HC VOL 02 (CIN)
> 92. DEPT H HC VOL 02 AFTER THE FLOOD (DAR)
> 93. DARING ADVENTURES OF SUPERGIRL TP VOL 02 (DC)
> 93. RAGNAROK HC VOL 02 LORD OF THE DEAD (IDW)
> 95. AVENGERS EPIC COLLECTION OPERATION GALACTIC STORM TP (MAR)
> 96. DARK KNIGHT RETURNS TP (DC)
> 97. WOLVERINE OLD MAN LOGAN TP (MAR)
> 98. PATSY WALKER AKA HELLCAT TP VOL 03 CARELESS WHISKERS (MAR)
> 99. ELSEWORLDS JUSTICE LEAGUE TP VOL 02 (DC)
> 100. DEADPOOL KILLS MARVEL UNIVERSE TP (MAR)

Sauce: https://www.previewsworld.com/Article/198274-Exclusive-Julys-Top-100-Best-Selling-Graphic-Novels
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>>94619953
>> 100. DEADPOOL KILLS MARVEL UNIVERSE TP (MAR)
Deadpoolfags BTFO
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>>94619975
Anon

>>94619924
> 8. DEADPOOL KILLS MARVEL UNIVERSE AGAIN #1 (MAR)
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Rebirth is dead. Bury it, consider this mercy.
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>>94620008
>1. DARK DAYS THE CASTING #1 (DC)
>> 2. ASTONISHING X-MEN #1 (MAR)
>> 3. BATMAN #26 (DC)
>> 4. BATMAN #27 (DC)
Marvel is dead.
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>>94619990
Aw my bad. Let me correct myself.
>>94619928
>> 100. IRON FIST #5 (MAR)
Iron Fistfags BTFO
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>>94619924
>> 1. DARK DAYS THE CASTING #1 (DC)
>> 3. BATMAN #26 (DC)
>> 4. BATMAN #27 (DC)
OH WELL, CONGRATULATIONS MARVEL
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>>94620026
>Marvel 36.89% dollar share and a 39.53% unit share
>DC 26.94% dollar share and a 31.15% unit share
Does it hurt being so wrong?
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>>94620171
Not as much as having to resort to desperate marketing tactics. I mean, more #1's?
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>>94620171
>X-Men, Spider-Man and Deadpool #1s, one event and Star Wars comics
>the usual overshipping, variants and all that bullshit
>DC is still only 8% down selling only regular issues and one event
Disney won't tolerate this for much longer
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>>94620171

Yeah, giving free mags really helps bloat those numbers up.
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>>94620368
if it ain't broke don't fix it
>>94620428
>only 8%
>only
Didio, Lee and Johns would each give their left nuts to have an 8% advantage
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>>94620453
>it ain't broke
Pffffhahahahaha
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Iron fist is fucked. And it's great too. Fuuuuuuuuckkkk Fucking marvel
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>>94620453

>if it ain't broke don't fix it.

Its like saying to a person on life support that he's healthy because he's strapped to a bunch of machines and a colostomy bag.
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>>94619924

when do we get sale numbers and not just a ranking?
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>>94620589
Tomorrow
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The individual sales usually come on Monday morning
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I am so glad Shade the Changing girl at least have good trade sales! I know the monthly are selling like crap, but this actually gives me hope the title can reach more issue on the future
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>>94619924
I wonder how much marlel rigged the chart
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>>94620715
>good trade sales
no it doesn't
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Serious question !! What is it with Marvel and new 1st every month ?? don't get me wrong I'm marvel fan but really dudes what's going on ? and didn't marvel said they will take a break from events for a while !! and know we got legacy!
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>>94619928
>idw is a great home for sonic guize i swear
Theres a dam good fucking reason they never place.
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>>94620901
Gotta get those #1 sales.
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I'm more interested in next month I think, Mister Miracle #1 orders should be fun
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>>94620901
If they didn't do that, they would have to shut down. They sell like shit digitally and basically no trades at all. Unlike DC and Image these cucks are completely dependent on direct market
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All new guardians of the Galaxy almost out of the top 100

Considering the movie came out 3 months ago, and managed to reach 850 million dollars... it's quite an archivment to tank this comic

Congratulations to Marvel I guess?
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>>94619933
>11. HE MAN THUNDERCATS TP (DC)

Glad to see that the He-Man/Thundercats trade had great sales. It was the best crossover of the past 5 years. DC should create more He-Man and Thundercats comics!
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>>94619933
>5. FLASH TP VOL 03 ROGUES RELOADED (REBIRTH) (DC)
Flash is definitely the most successful thing of Rebirth. This shit was barely breaking 35k pre Rebirth. Sucks because Williamson is such a fucking bore and DC will get the idea that Williamson is actually good or something.
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>>94620984
>>94621089
WOW .. come to think of it every month the top ten for marvel is 1st

you all will hate me for it but I think their trick is working , it's pathetic but working .
soon They will be running out of tricks what are they gonna do ?
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>>94621237
>soon They will be running out of tricks
I really don't know why people say this shit. Marvel has been using variations of same gimmicks since 90s. Comic readers either don't know their history or just have really short memories. It's both honestly and comic readers as a whole need to become much more cynical and critical and maybe then something good will come out.
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>>94621303
>comic readers as a whole need to become even more cynical and critical
Fixed.
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>>94621092
That shit has been overshipped like nuts.

#4 last month was 34 in the unit rankings (47K) but 102 in the dollar share rankings (comparable to a book selling 25K at the same price point).

Insane overshipping.
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>>94621303
>just have really short memories
How did you know ??
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>renew your vows and wild storm still in top 100
>Monstress and Legend of Korra selling like hotcakes
>Paper Girls too
>even Street Angel
>Valerian getting a push
At least there's some good news.

Also great to know that My Little Pony comics can be fantastically successful without having to break the top 100. Good to see the industry finding a balance.
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>>94621367
Are you being ironic my dude or do you not see the cyclical nature of this medium?
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>>94621386
I don't see any good news there.
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>>94619924
>2. ASTONISHING X-MEN #1 (MAR)
> 5. SECRET EMPIRE #6 (MAR)
> 6. SECRET EMPIRE #7 (MAR)
> 7. STAR WARS #33 (MAR)
> 8. DEADPOOL KILLS MARVEL UNIVERSE AGAIN #1 (MAR)
> 10. SPIDER-MEN II #1 (MAR)
No but it's marvel that's giving up probably because they're so tired of winning
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>>94621426
>winning
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what kind of person enjoys the Deadpools kills Marvel Universe comics?
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>>94621405
No dude .. I really have a f#@ked up memory

Don't ask !!
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>>94621469
No one. Collectors simply go after the #1.
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>>94621475
>censoring "fucked"
t. summerfag
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>>94621092
Thanks Bendis
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>>94619928
> 85. RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS #12

What the fuck? Wasn't this at around 100 last month? I hope this means its getting a boost in sales
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>>94621413
Well, first you need good taste. I understand it's in finite supply on 4chan.
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>>94619924
So, Marvel got X-men, spiderman and variations on these two properties as well as Thor, defenders and lots of star wars into the top 50 with avengers, panther, iron people's, Thanos, champions, punisher, daredevil, Hulk and iron fist into the 100. Their doing well and it's hard to argue that but this is 4chan and poking the bear is expected, so. What didn't make it? Oh no, were have all the Inhumans gone, mha haha.
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>>94621485
I chose to censor it because the old dude set next to me snooping in my phone

Other wise I can write fuck or cunt or dick
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>>94619924
>15. DETECTIVE COMICS #960 (DC)
>> 16. DETECTIVE COMICS #961 (DC)
Bad.
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>>94621569
It still doing better than Damian books, damifan.
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>>94621475
For example all major events since Crisis on Infinite Earths have the same narrative language, if you pay attention you would see the same narrative devices, plot outline, character archetypes, tropes etc but the publishers lack the self awareness in that they'd call it the most ambitious thing since their last most ambitious thing or that it would change the universe forever and so on, so forth. And readers lack the self awareness just as much since they happily enable this industry to fuck them right in the ass.
My honest hope is that this mainstream industry kills itself because this industry truly deserves to burn down and may the new and evangelized substitute comes from the ashes that's actually worth giving a shit about.
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>>94621508
Someone that likes BKV shouldn't be so smug and call someone else out on having bad taste.
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>>94620008
>>94620171
Trolling aside, this is correct. It's all settling again, Batman is DC's only sales weapon. Flash makes an appearance at 18 and I obviously expect it to dip lower.

At some point during the new 52, all the DC comics in the top 40 were Batman properties or were Batman related.

I don't know how to fix this.
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>>94621844
>I don't know how to fix this.
You're just an unpaid intern, anon. Disney doesn't expect you to help their enemy.
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>>94621508
Nigga you literally like YA tier shit, why would you say dumb shit like this ever?
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>>94621856
I didn't mean to trigger you so hard, anon. I apologize.
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>>94621386
But the my little pony comics are fucking terrible.

They were supposed to get young girls into comics and idw fucked it up.
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>>94621844
By that logic, events and number ones are the only things that Marvel can sell.
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>>94621899
>apologizing for doing his duty
You're fired.
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>>94621911
Well, yes.
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>>94621943
Then DC is in a better place.
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>>94621911
Events always sell, regardless of the company, that's just capeshit readers being retarded as usual.

The real issue for Marvel sales-wise is they've effectively managed to mismanage away the X line. Their latest relaunch is terrible in every single way, including sales.

They're gonna have to come up with a new gimmick because the #1s diminishing returns are catching up to them.
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>>94621969
Why? Marvel has no problem selling only events and #1 they're unapologetic like that. I always smile when I see someone accuse marvel of using "shitty tactics" because that's simply who Marvel is, that's their identity. Even then, that's two things Marvel depends on while DC only has Batman and let's not pretend everything Batman sells, 'tec was doing lousy numbers pre Rebirth and Batman The Dark Knight got canceled.
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>>94622002
Another cent for anon!
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>>94622002
>Even then, that's two things Marvel depends on while DC only has Batman
"Batman" is a franchise with a solid fanbase. Events and #1 are shitty gimmicks that are less and less dependable year after year. Look at the terrible numbers of "Secret Empire" or at the relaunch of the X-Line.
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>>94622038
>that are less and less dependable
Reality says otherwise
>"Batman" is a franchise with a solid fanbase
Please don't ignore half of my post. Batman is a huge seller, Detective Comics also sells well. batman guest starring in a book that's doing 18k will not make it pull 30k for that one month. Various spin off like Gotham By Midnight failed etc.
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>>94622060
>Reality says otherwise
The reality where "Secret Empire" can't even sell 100k?
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>overshipping for the unit share
>loot crates and variant extorsion inflating the numbers
>relaunching spiderman, x-men and deadpool against a normal week for dc
>win the week marginally and all those books will drop under 40k by third issue
Based marvel is there anything they can't do besides good comics, movies or videogames?
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>>94621237
They are in this state for so long that everybody acept this as their normal.
Only one year ago when Rebirth was in it's peak, the faced some critics. But now, Rebirth has faded so they hardly need to concern about anything.
Their only actuals critics are a bunch of "not muh" guys who think Marvel is part of some kind of conspiracy to make everybody black/muslim/women.
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>>94622100
Still a top seller. reality is that comics are slowly but surely dying and Marvel are desperately trying to crash the industry and no matter how hard they try there will always be people out there defending their shitty tactics and saying how "you can't boycott Marvel because it's bad for business" or some shit but years back boycotting DC was totally fine.
Like I said, they use might use shitty tactics but it's who they are and because DC are trying to fight them at their own game they've forgotten how to make great comics. Fuck man, they even killed Vertigo.
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>>94622002
So, I guess DC should do #1 and events every month to easy win then? Too bad they're not a bunch of faggots who shits on their fanbase.
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>>94622161
>there will always be people out there defending their shitty tactics
Like you.
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>>94622133
>Events and #1s have kept Marvel above DC.
And the price is dogshit stories.
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>>94622165
>Too bad they're not a bunch of faggots who shits on their fanbase.
>Jurgens still writing Superman comics

Select only one.
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>>94622133
It took Marvel fucking up and DC comic out with #1's galore and shitty Watchmen crossover teases for them to just barely get ahead for 2 or 3 months. And of course it was all shitty hype too many #1's at once and they couldn't nurture the titles and they've all fallen like anvils. The low quality of art and writing certainly doesn't help either.
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>>94622179
Absolutely.

But then again, if we were debating stories on their merit, we would not be discussing Marvel/DC comics.
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>>94622184
>implying AC is bad
>implying Zod who punched Mongul to orbit is bad
Weak bait anon
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>>94622002
The only glaring point for Marvel is how good their events are doing. SE sell less that 85K last month. and for it current position, i don't think is doing better. Probably is the worst selling event from Marvel.
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>>94622196
>meanwhile in real life flash in the #20s is outselling x-men books at issue 7
Whatever helps you sleep friend
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>>94622196
>they've all fallen like anvils.
Is that bait? DC's titles hold their numbers way better than Marvel's.

An issue number #25 is considered an accomplishment at Marvel nowadays since their books are canceled before #20 due to low sales
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>>94621902
>hasbro now trusts idw so little the Hanazuki comics are just direct episode adaptions
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>>94622254
>DC's titles hold their numbers way better than Marvel's.
Irrelevant. Marvel doesn't care about long lasting numbers, remember? just #1. We're talking abut the company that unironically relaunched a title with the same damn creative team after just 5 issues. And not just one series.
Not dropping as hard as Marvel titles really doesn't mean shit.
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>>94622279
>If it proves me wrong, it's irrelevant
Have a nice day, son.
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>>94620953
>Theres a dam good fucking reason they never place.
because of losers like you?
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>>94622316
It doesn't prove me wrong, you're just moving the goal posts.
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>>94621720
James pls.Cass is a cunt.
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>>94619928
>Deathstroke back at the Top 100
There is a god. And if he's a better one it would be at the Top 50

> 62. DEADPOOL #34 SE (MAR)
> 63. HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS #24 (DC)
> 64. SPIDER-MAN DEADPOOL #19 (MAR)
> 65. HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS #25 (DC)
>Deadpool sandwiched between Hal and Pals
something about this makes me laugh, no idea why

> 17. PETER PARKER SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN #2 (MAR)
Holding strong but already below Onslott, a nice try

> 4. BATMAN #27 (DC)
> 5. SECRET EMPIRE #6 (MAR)
Dead Event

> 24. EDGE OF VENOMVERSE #2 (MAR)
Dead Crossover

> 31. DEADPOOL KILLS MARVEL UNIVERSE AGAIN #2 (MAR)
Dead Mini

> 1. DARK DAYS THE CASTING #1 (DC)
> 2. ASTONISHING X-MEN #1 (MAR)
>Still below even with all the pre-order tricks Marvel had up their sleeve
>Dark Days next issue actually outranked the last one

> 28. X-MEN GOLD #8 SE (MAR)
>Already below Superman, Batman, and Flash
Hueh

> 18. FLASH #26 (DC)
Literally how has this stayed up here so long?
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>>94622279
You, you get how the game is played.
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>>94622184
>Jurgens
>Anywhere near as bad as Hellcat Leth or America
Sorry anon, I know you're desperate to try to say
>Both sides are the same!
But if fucking Jurgens is the best you can do you're full of shit. Hell the Revenge Squad was pretty good.
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>>94621844
>Flash makes an appearance at 18 and I obviously expect it to dip lower.
It has stayed up there for pretty long anon, I mean it's gonna dip but now that its been 6 months and counting it's not gonna have any more extreme dips, at best it's gonna fluctuate between the 10-25 spot depending on how many new releases there are.
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>>94622328
Looks more like you're the one doing so. First you claimed DC was suffering from bigger drops which is false. Then you claimed that Marvel's drops didn't matter.
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>>94621720
Damian sales.
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>>94622338
>all the pre-order tricks Marvel had up their sleeve
Go on...
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>>94622383
I didn't say bigger drops. I said big drops. Dropping like anvils is what I said.
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>>94622360
Yes, because putting garbage on America Chavez is Hellcat is the same as putting garbage on MOTHERFUCKING SUPERMAN. Fuck off marveldrone.
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>>94622279
>DC books drop like stones!
>no they don't, marvel ones do because first issues are inflated by their market trickery and then they have to relaunch because stores don't want them not even as toilet paper
>W-WHO CARES
lol
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>>94622441
>no they don't
Except they do
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>>94619928
>> 61. DOCTOR STRANGE #23 SE (MAR)
>> 62. DEADPOOL #34 SE (MAR)
>> 63. HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS #24 (DC)
>> 64. SPIDER-MAN DEADPOOL #19 (MAR)
>> 65. HAL JORDAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN CORPS #25 (DC)
>> 66. UNCANNY AVENGERS #25 SE (MAR)
>> 67. TRINITY #11 (DC)
>> 68. GREEN LANTERNS #26 (DC)
>> 69. DAREDEVIL #23 (MAR)
>> 70. GREEN LANTERNS #27 (DC)
>> 71. INVINCIBLE IRON MAN #9 (MAR)
>> 72. CABLE #3 (MAR)
>> 73. BLACK PANTHER #16 (MAR)
>> 74. BATMAN THE SHADOW #4 (DC)
>> 75. ALL NEW GUARDIANS OF GALAXY #5 (MAR)
>> 76. THANOS #9 (MAR)
>> 77. AQUAMAN #26 (DC)
>> 78. TRUE BELIEVERS AMAZING FANTASY STARRING SPIDER-MAN #1 (MAR)
>> 79. CHAMPIONS #10 SE (MAR)
>> 80. GREEN ARROW #26 (DC)
>> 81. SEVEN TO ETERNITY #7 (IMA)
>> 82. SPIDER-MAN MASTER PLAN #1 (MAR)
>> 83. GREEN ARROW #27 (DC)
>> 84. JEAN GREY #4 (MAR)
>> 85. RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS #12 (DC)
>> 86. GO GO POWER RANGERS #1 (BOO)
>> 87. PUNISHER #14 (MAR)
>> 88. DAREDEVIL #24 (MAR)
>> 89. INFAMOUS IRON MAN #10 (MAR)
>> 90. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN RENEW YOUR VOWS #9 (MAR)
>> 91. DEATHSTROKE #21 (DC)
>> 92. BATWOMAN #5 (DC)
>> 93. STAR WARS ROGUE ONE ADAPTATION #4 (MAR)
>> 94. NEIL GAIMAN AMERICAN GODS SHADOWS #5 (MR) (DAR)
>> 95. ALL NEW GUARDIANS OF GALAXY #6 (MAR)
>> 96. TOTALLY AWESOME HULK #21 WMD (MAR)
>> 97. BATMAN BEYOND #10 (DC)
>> 98. WILD STORM #6 (DC)
>> 99. GENERATION X #4 (MAR)
>> 100. IRON FIST #5 (MAR)
Dead.
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>>94622449
Except they don't. Flash has been going strong for 6 months now i. e. You seem delusional
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>>94622449
Do they?

Look at Aquaman and then look at Iron Fist/Captain Marvel/Jea Grey/Inhumans. DC books are "dropping like anvils" compared to what? Because compared to Marvel they are flying.
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>>94619924
>> 15. DETECTIVE COMICS #960 (DC)
>> 16. DETECTIVE COMICS #961 (DC)
If it was just Cass and Batwoman, no Batman, how many would it sell?
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>>94622467
That's just one comic. And let's not pretend like it's a good comic either but I guess that's irrelevant to this discussion.
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>>94622488
>irrelevant
Like your defense of Marvel.
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>>94622343
What happened, Damifan? You used to like Jason.
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Explain how current Marvel comic fans even exist on this board
>there are people unironically shoveling money to Bendis and Slott on this board, potentially in this thread, right now
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>>94622488
Let's not because if we're talking about quality marvel should just shut down and license the character to a competent company
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>>94622482
Literally the same shit over and over again
>BUUTT MAARRVELL
Are you a robot or something? Marvel doesn't' care about long lasting sales because they just unironically unapologetically shamelessly relaunch like retards.
>comapred to what
Look at the fucking medium motherfucker, it's dropping, there's something like a 25% drop between 2017 july and 2016 july. These drops are not healthy, the only way you can say they are is if you compare them to marvel's which is irrelevant because their drops aren't bad-ish so doing better than them is good, marvel's drops are abysmal so comparing the drops to theirs means you've started an already lost battle.
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>>94622521
I think it's because of the trinity preview. She hates when Batman show that cares about people besides Damian.
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>>94622517
Except that I'm not defending Marvel, rebirthdrone.

>>94622536
Marvel hasn't had a year in which they published better quality comics than DC since the 70s.
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>44. CAPTAIN AMERICA STEVE ROGERS #19 SE (MAR)
>48. DEFENDERS #3 (MAR)
>58. AVENGERS #9 SE (MAR)
>66. UNCANNY AVENGERS #25 SE (MAR)
>79. CHAMPIONS #10 SE (MAR)

>2. ASTONISHING X-MEN #1 (MAR)
>8. DEADPOOL KILLS MARVEL UNIVERSE AGAIN #1 (MAR)
>20. X-MEN GOLD #7 SE (MAR)
>26. X-MEN BLUE #7 SE (MAR)
>27. OLD MAN LOGAN #26 (MAR)
>28. X-MEN GOLD #8 SE (MAR)
>31. DEADPOOL KILLS MARVEL UNIVERSE AGAIN #2 (MAR)
>35. X-MEN BLUE #8 SE (MAR)
>37. DEADPOOL #33 SE (MAR)
>39. WEAPON X #5 WMD (MAR)
>50. WEAPON X #6 WMD (MAR)

Imagine having possibly the hottest superhero brand of the last 5 years and not being able to do shit with it. Marvel still needs Petey, Mutants and now Star Wars.
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>>94622488
Superman is also holding up, considering that both X-Men titles are now below it. I'm pretty confident that by next month, Spectacular will be following it too next month by sliding below Flash (Amazing IDK but it looks like it's gonna slide down below Det' too). Wonder Woman is also doing pretty well, next to Flash it's the 2nd Rebirth Book that gained major moving legs from pre-Rebirth, when the Azz run was already below the Top 50 by this issue. Justice League is really the only main book I'd consider to be getting a bad drop, and even then it's still doing better than most if not all team books (once Astonishing drops like a rock next month). Suicide Squad, somehow even after Lee left the book is still in the Top 50
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>>94622536
They say Disney is considering that.

>>94622559
>I'm not defending Marvel
Nice backpedaling, bro.
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>>94620171
>>Marvel 36.89% dollar share and a 39.53% unit share

Says it all, really!
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>>94621502
Yep, from 101 back to 86, I doubt it's an increase in sales more so than most of Marvel's new releases from last month that pushed it down have already sank even further pushing it back up

>>94619928
> 79. CHAMPIONS #10 SE (MAR)
>7 places above last month
Hrggh
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>>94622575
Avengers doing that bad is laughable, fuck literally all of MCU heroes sans Spider-Man that were in movies are doing fucking terrible compared to DC's big three.
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>>94622551
it is Assam not my.
that says he on CBR
You'll notice that NO DC ongoing book comes close to Batman. Far behind in sales as it is, 'Tec is still DC's 3rd highest selling ongoing (2nd once All-Star ends). There are tons of people who probably only read Batman and only because it's Batman. AKA, not the kind of fans who'd be spending time on a forum. (Plus, this forum is still just a rather small sample size)
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>>94622675
>forum
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>Mister Miracle almost outsold SE according to Rich the Leech's retailer friends
http://archive.is/DYBBd
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>>94622687
>an imageboard is not a forum
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2 BATMAN
11. ALL STAR BATMAN #12 (DC
15. DETECTIVE COMICS #960 (DC)
> 16. DETECTIVE COMICS #961 (DC)
51. SUPER SONS #6 (DC)
> 52. NIGHTWING #24 (DC)

The bat heros are good..I am happy.
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>>94622688
>muh carefully selected anecdotal evidence
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>>94622792
They're only a small sample size.
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51. SUPER SONS #6 (DC)
It's a book without batman and it sells well.
it makes my happy.Because jon and dami are my babies.

I wonder how high a batman robin book would be...
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>>94622161
>comics are slowly dying
when will this meme end?
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OK OK ... We all know that Marvel use 1st issues to increase their results !!
But why cancel some book before It ever reach one year ??
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>>94622161
>Fuck man, they even killed Vertigo.
Its editorial has nowhere to go other than DC's Young Animal.

>>94622338
>>Deathstroke back at the Top 100
Also RHATO.

>>94622450
That's too harsh anon.

>>94623498
Marvel's cancellation threshold is higher than DC's, and also the stealth mini mentality.
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>>94622161
they placed Doyle on Vertigo so it might get its legs again
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>ctrl+f gwen
>no results
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>>94622588

I think X Men will get a boost because of their Mojo crossover event (a crossover of only Blue and Gold). After that they should drop. Gold because it is bad, and Blue because people don't really like the original 5 from the past.
Last year Extraordinary and Uncanny got a boost from a kind of crossover (Apocalypse Wars) although it wasnt a crossover, just 3 books having different Apocalypse stories at the same time.
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So are these numbers just how many comics Diamond ships to LCS's across the land? Or is there some way to determine how many people actually buy comics.
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>>94624218

I asked before and it seems the numbers will be available tomorrow, I know once per month they get published.
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>>94624013
>>ctrl+f gwen
>>no results

they still need to inflate the sales for Gwenpool before posting the fake... I mean real numbers of her amazing sales!
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>>94619924
> 5. SECRET EMPIRE #6 (MAR)
> 6. SECRET EMPIRE #7 (MAR)
> 7. STAR WARS #33 (MAR)
The only non-#1 Marvel issues in the top 10. Is Secret Empire actually selling well, or is this some number-fudging trick?
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>>94624218
There's no way to get direct to customer numbers but most shops don't massively overorder unless there's a variant deal and you can figure out which ones those are.
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>>94624397
SE is selling very poorly. An event needs to be selling 100k+ every issue. Secret Empire fell below that like a month or two ago.

Ranking is not as important as actual sales numbers, but you can estimate the sales numbers based on ranking because of where books are relative to each other month to month. Batman is basically the 100k mark (generally selling 95-115k these days outside of crossovers).
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>>94619924
Lmao if Flash wasn't selling as high as it is I would be so fucking sad for DC because they can't make anything but batshit sell.

Like at this point what the fuck can they do? King and Snyder can't write everything.
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>>94619924
>the only thing Marvel can claim as a success is Star Wars comics, everything else are inflated numbers for relaunched comics and an event that is selling like shit
Pretty fucking pathetic
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>>94623347
When comics sell gangbusters, so probably never.
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>>94624013
>ctrl+f squirrel girl
>no results
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>>94619933
> 15. DEATHSTROKE TP VOL 02 THE GOSPEL OF SLADE (REBIRTH) (DC)
Hallelujah!
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So we know Superwoman is cancelled and Blue Beetle and Hellblazer are probably going with it. What other rebirth books are gonna be cancelled soon anons?
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>>94627625
The only book we know that it going to be canceled at the end of this year is Blue Beetle.
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>>94623929
>they placed Doyle on Vertigo so it might get its legs again

that is going to compete with the main line for indie writing talent and provided more openings for guys like Hitch/Daniel. not a good thing.
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>>94621092
>>94621319
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>>94627625
A new wave of books, like Nightwing, Green Arrow and the GL titles, will probably go to once per month soon.
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>>94625603
I think he gave Byrne an extra zero there.
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>>94628225
No that was the name Byrne came up with around the late 80's/early 90's to describe how the books he worked on would get a boost of 50K or something like that.

Nowadays yeah it's probably one zero too many.
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>>94627690
Superwoman is ending at #18 if the trade solicit is right
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>>94622324
Because they are shit and don't fucking care.
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>>94624013
On the plus side, Edge of Venomverse #2 is number 24 on the list.
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>>94624218
They are just how many get shipped.
For most comics thats about how many get sold but Marvel has systems in place to force stores to overorder.
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>>94627625
There will always be a hellblazer.
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>>94619928
>85. RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS #12 (DC)
This was at 101 in June. Maybe it got a bump? It's been getting nothing but positive buzz from what I've seen no thanks to DC who still isn't doing anything to help promote it

Though more likely other things above it just dropped below it, causing it to rise ranking wise.
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>>94624218
It's how many are shipped, there's no way to track how many actually sell via shops

a few stores comment on it (like Big Bang or Ryan Higgins) but there's not really any way to know otherwise

although typically by issue 5-6 is where a series finds its long term sales level since by then people have given the first few arcs a chance and shops have had the chance to cut their orders accordingly
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>>94627690
And Blue Beetle will be cancelled next.
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>>94633266
Book totally did Jamie dirty
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>ctrl f "teen jean"

Aaay we're back in the top 100!
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>>94620953
Literally anything is better than Archie. Anything. Even fucking Marvel




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