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Not Found Edition

Welcome to another thread of How's Your Webcomic! Where we- wait, where is it? What do you mean it can't be found?

Discuss your webcomic progress and, to stay "on-topic", talk about those webcomics who got the 404 on them and only live in our memories.
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>>95154898
Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
calligraphr.com

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/ (surprisingly not a typo)

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>DISCORD CHAT going on:
https://discord.gg/rXMbdqP

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb5oIIPO62g

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>Comics for makin' comics!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+draw+comics
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Don't worry! What will not not be found for now is the 5th hyw challenge!

>MAIN THEME: Giants
>SECONDARY THEME: (choose one to play around alongside the main theme!)
-Skies
-Terrorism
-Board games
>DEADLINE: September 15

Remember that you can play with the theme as you see fit, we want to see how creative you can get!
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posted the too big version in last thread
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>>95154898
I didn't forget to link the previous thread at all! It's just it is forbidden

>>95072991
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>>95154898
here I was worried because I was banned I wouldn't be able to make the perfect thread #404. Fortunately ban expired in time, but you did it even better than I was going to.
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Just uploaded the prologue to one of two series i'm working on at the moment. This one is just horror and heavy metal inspired. The first chapter of the second series will be uploaded soon enough, hope it tickles somebody's fancy

http://kaspetersen.tumblr.com/
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>>95155555
So that edge was played 100% straight, huh? I dunno bra. You never wanna go straight edge.
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>>95155578
yeah, the edge was slightly intentional
the shift kinda changed halfway through but i don't plan to keep it so serious as it goes
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>>95154898

Hey everybody, whats up? Check out my newwest page I just finished of GGZ! I hope yall like it! I also made a video of me making this page ftrom scratch, check it out yall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no9UZo8eNCE

i made this in sketchbook pro, original stuff!

*you can read it on:

-comic fury: http://ggz.thecomicseries.com/
-taptastic: https://tapastic.com/episode/623701
-linewebtoons: http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/ggz/introductions/viewer?title_no=66734&episode_no=1
-the duck webcomics: http://www.theduckwebcomics.com/GGZ/
-tumblr: https://gothgrillz.tumblr.com/

*Follow me on twitter: https://twitter.com/jessethemaker

*AND VOTE FOR ME ON TOP WEBCOMICS: http://www.topwebcomics.com/vote/22062
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Working on our patron-exclusive spinoff comic
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>>95155903
>Patron exclusive comic
What's your comic, anon?
Or better yet, the Patreon?
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>>95155903
Aw, I don't ship these two ):
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>>95155715

more pages to come soon! ^^
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>>95154931
We're not entering this round, we're taking a well deserved break to work on some of our own stuff. But good luck to everyone entering!
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I hope nobody minds if I stay on last thread's topic of intentional restrictions for a bit; it actually gave me some food for thought.

-Process-wise, the first thing I decided about the comic was that I wasn't going to avoid drawing anything because it was hard, time-consuming or I didn't know how to do it. I was gonna take the time to learn how to do it, even if it meant delays.
-In addition, if I get constructive criticism, I'll try not to just disregard it, even if I disagree with it or it sounds dumb; I'll ask the person to clarify what they mean and try implementing it before I make a decision so my butthurt has time to cool.
-No pages that don't progress the plot; that means no pages with just jokes and no action scenes where the situation is stable for more than a single page.
-Try not to skip over details that would inconvenience the plot.

The rest of my don'ts is mostly about the way I present information to the reader;
-don't show anyone's thoughts directly in thought bubbles or similar (Yeah, I've made Skeggi talk to herself once or twice to get around this, but I'm not proud of it)
-while the "camera" might focus on things to imply what's going on in a character's head, barring magical visions or dreams, it only shows objective physical reality, so no turning a panel completely red to show how angry a character is unless the anger is actually affecting the photons in the scene.
-Similarly, text bubbles only change color to imply an inhuman quality to the speaker's voice.

And a few things I try to keep in mind to reinforce the protagonist's viewpoint
-The camera should generally not care that a woman is sexy. Skeggi is a straight woman who grew up in a culture with very little notion of privacy and genuinely doesn't care about other womens' appearances. Sexy men should either be ogled or censored depending on how hard Skeggi's trying not to stare.
-It's not that Skeggi is short, it's that anyone above 4'11" is tall.
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>>95156754
Love the faces on that elf.
>No pages that don't progress the plot; that means no pages with just jokes and no action scenes where the situation is stable for more than a single page.
that explains your pace. I've noticed it's very stable. To me it feels like the equivalent of handmade gif animations or flipbooks, the way that each frame has more of a discrete value than usual, so you end up seeing something that's distributed very evenly along all of its frames.
I never thought before about how it's Skeggi's viewpoint, but now that you say that...
It's really interesting finding out the different ways people restrict themselves. I'm also interested in knowing the whys of it. For every person who thinks it genuinely makes a comic better (or just that they like it that way, or both, or the two are the same thing) there's at least 1.3 people who restrict themselves out of some kind of compulsion. I know I do.
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>>95154931
What are the rules of the /hyw/ challenge?
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>>95158379
1-3 pages, not so sketchy that you can't read it. just what's there
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>>95158379
Basically >>95158419

Simple sketches are fine and play with the themes anyway you want.
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long time no post! thought i'd just pop in here again to see what's happening, i'm also finally almost at the end of my first chapter which is fun
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>>95158883
I love that your tone hasn't wavered one bit
feel free to stop by more often
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night bump
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Might as well share one of the most recent pages.
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>>95156574
Literally no one here likes your comic, please fuck off to deviantart
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>>95160586
that should be piece by the way. also french bat is a cutie even if her wings are odd.
also while most of the french here is good enough, i don't think the average schmoe knows marché means market (even if it was a fantastic gag on The Simpsons once and they expected at least some of the audience to understand "beau marché" = kwik-e-mart)
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>>95147619
I do a lot of push ups and sit ups.
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>>95161091
Ack,I knew there was a reason I got a C in French. I just used Google Translate for the French.
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>>95162191
I mean it's grammatically correct, it's just not at a vocabulary level you want for an anglophone audience.

... actually now that I look at it, that's not even remotely grammatically correct. If you want to say "you artists have a real nice market" you'd say "vos artistes ont un excellent marché"
vos is "youse" basically. you in the plural. and ont is to-have in the vous voice
though I get the feeling the word you're looking for is you've got a real nice RACKET, in which case the French is raquette but i THINK that might only refer to... like, what you use in tennis. However even if it's wrong, it's a cognate, see? so the anglophone audience will pick up on it.
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>What kind of things do you just not let yourself do?
Above PG-13 content. Spooky stuff. Boring Filler.
>Is it because you're scared, unable to do it properly, or just an aversion to when comics do that?
All of the above. I'm unable to draw anything either. Pages where nothing happens bore me desu.
>Are there colors you hate using?
I hate rainbows and anything that hurts the eyes. I like black and red apparently.
>Cliches you avoid?
Fanservice in general. I worry more about keeping my plot's formula in-line than outright avoiding cliches. Cliches are tropes, and tropes are simply tools.
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>>95162503
Thanks mate, like I said, tried to pick up French, didn't quite grasp it. Also glad you like the bat.
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>>95154898
It's so fucked up how easy it is for comics to disappear forever. This charming but amateurish comic Selkie has lost its domain and I only just found its facebook where updates have been posted in the meantime. That sucker has a huge following oddly enough.
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>>95162718
Whoa, I remembered that comic, I read my webcomics on my phone, so when the page wasn't loading, I just assumed something was wrong with the site and thought "Oh, it'll be fixed soon" and sorta forgot about it.
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my comix.
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>>95162868
I've been adding a lot of havent-updated-in-ages to my "done or probably never updating again" folder lately, including a few I found here. It's actually easier in that case, since I figure if it starts up again, they'll let us know
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>>95160986

And yet you cared enough to reply with such harshness that you would have the balls to speak for everybody here as if there was a hive mind here, it really speaks to your true character of being absolutely obsessed with me and my comic. pretend harder worthless faggot. Stay mad, jealous, and obsessed with me loser, sure, but also consider getting some kind of life while your at it to. Thanks! :D :3 :^)
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>>95163087
>"done or probably never updating again
Poor Commander Kitty.
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>>95163338
lol Jesse the cuck son is mad. Get back to Mexico and stay there, Jesse "0% white" Gaza.
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>>95163338
You know if you were a girl or some pre-teen I would be fine with you're autism.
I see that you have some decent art so why don't you raise your standards a little and actually try drawing so people stop giving you shit. Doing so will help you improve whether or not you care because it feels like you're trolling or shut off in your own world.
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>>95156427
We're Vigor Mortis - everything's linked from VigorMortis.co.uk.

>>95156497
Alas, it's what they voted for (off the back of this picture) - their options were this or the other two cheesecakes (so Slate/Merle or Slate/Cosh).
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>tfw idea for a webcomic that I have toyed with, still not really began to work on the comic proper.
>leave it on stand-by because I began working on more self-contained stories in a special webcomic setting thanks to the hyw challenge. Nothing too serious just mostly to experiment and get used to webcomic schedules.
>make a quick gag about a possible pokémon canon divergence just for giggles a couple of days ago.
>now I want to focus on that one even though it is way less serious than the webcomic of oneshots in a shared universe.

Send help.
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Please post maps, character sheets and info tables, concept drawings or really anything that is directly related to your comic but not an actual page.
I'll start.
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>>95163032
A link to your stuff maybe?
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>>95157281
I swear, people always respond like 2 minutes after I have to leave.
Good to hear Bjǫrkdís is working as intended - I realized I was gonna have several pages of people just walking and talking in a forest, so I'm trying my hardest to make it funny at least.
I'm actually not super happy about the very stable pace - I'd love to have bigger peaks and valleys in the tension, but at the rate I update I'd feel a bit cheated as a reader if I checked in and things hadn't moved on at least a little since last week.

>>95164916
I recently made a little chart to keep notes on the various flavors of viking that'll show up in the comic.
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>>95166010
how's the comic growing? it's good, but any thoughts on starting a new project?
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>>95166557
good stuff
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>>95162718
How did they lost the domain? Money issues?
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>>95166557
Pen?
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>>95167045
Not very. I don't want to shill it around before I have a more presentable site but I'm not even managing to keep my page-a-week schedule right now so who knows when I'll have time to fix the site.

I've got plenty of ideas for new projects*, but even if I managed to find the time, I should probably spend it on Carrion Girls.

*my "projects I wish I had time for" folder has 15 sub-folders with comics ideas in 'em, mostly various blends of fantasy, history, and cosmic horror
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Clip Studio Paint, aka Manga Studio, is on sale until Tuesday 12th September.
50% off PRO ($25), and 60% off EX ($87).

I highly recommend getting PRO if you haven't already. If you're serious about working on and printing multi-page documents, go for EX.

Update ver 1.6.7 is also out, and is free if you already have CSP.

http://www.clipstudio.net/en/purchase
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>>95165029
not him but here you go http://character-limit-blog.tumblr.com/

i'm pretty sure english isnt his first language so the dialogue is very awkward. still cute style to it
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>>95167580
Thanks! I was waiting for it to go on sale
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>>95167647
>page 10
where a thread of your comic would instantly go
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>tfw blogger version of my comic is giving me no adshekels
>tfw my facebook group points to it
>tfw still no proper update schedule
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>tfw months since last updated
>tfw passion is gone
how do I find it again
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>>95168447
first of all what's your comic so I can try and see if I can help you out here.
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>>95168447
>faceberg
out
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Can you add a videogame comic to webtoons? I don't see a "videogame" section.
Is tapas my only option?
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>tfw Chrome blocks your ads even with adblock plus turned off
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>>95163755
>Jesse "0% white" Gaza
Literally kek'd my ass off
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is doing comics supposed to be so painf ul
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>>95166557

>>95167066
Cheers, anon!

>>95167136
That it be.
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>>95156497
Who do you ship tho?
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>10 new comments
>tfw all made by a thailandese bot shilling his movie review blog
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>>95169388
>10
bullshit, post comic
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>>95169433
this is what my mail looked like

the comments had generic messages like "nice blog", "good post" and a link
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>>95169592
bots are getting out of hand, couldn't believe there was a twitter audit service to verify follower legitimacy %
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>>95169592
>>95169678

At least the bots are nice. Actually, are there bots that leave mean comments?
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havent updated in.... 4 years? that can't be right.
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>>95167076
it sounded complicated, I didn't memorize it
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>>95164916
We have the first part of a short story giving insight into the lore and backstory of the Magical Girl comic we entered in the last contest.

It's about a girl traveling to the magical world of Croatoan where everything is alive, even the air and stars, so she can learn from its Empress-the first ever mahou shojo.

Read it here:

http://www.capeworldcomics.com/comic/magical-woman-1/

Criticism and comments are very welcomed

Interesting factoids:

Knockers are related to stars.

Stars are terrified of their own reflection.

Modern Croatoans are the miscegenated descendants of natives and cosmically displaced Massachusetts Puritans from the 16th century.

The Puritans were brought to Croatoan by Solomon Kane's Staff of Solomon which traded hands in the Puritan community until it ended up in Salem.

It is also Magical Woman's Dreamstaff. The one with the cat head. It looks that way because its appearance matches the personality of whoever wields it.

In this setting most magical girls result from the goddess Amaterasu bleeding over Japan following a battle with Pele during Pearl Harbor. The spilt blood tinted the souls of those it touched and gave them a divine power that passes down from mother to daughter.

What do you think thread?
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>>95164633
I get you man. I meant to get back to my Witch's Hill comic quickly, but ever since my Merchant & Pike comic got more popular than Witch's Hill, I'm tempted to keep working on M&P, even though Witch's Hill actually has a story that I've planned out for quite a while.
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>>95154898

How do you design character clothes? Preferably ones that are timeless and don't scream of a particular culture.
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>>95164916
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>>95170174
>timeless and don't scream a particular culture

1. When would you ever need clothes like that?

2. What kind of clothes don't indicate culture?
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>>95164916
God fucking damn it. Could have sworn i attached an image
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>>95170174
There's no such thing as clothes that don't scream of a particular culture.
Figure out what the character's culture is and give them clothes fitting that.
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>>95170174
make them pretty utilitarian and make them look cool. no culture in history has ever actually made their clothes look very cool.
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>>95170476
>No culture in history has ever actually made their clothes look very cool

You are fake news.
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>>95169890
I remember there was one bot that would post that I was a troll and that I was trolling his website and then he will spam his links.
But most of the time they're kinda nice, but their english is terrible, I don't know how is that possible. Even google translator does a very good job these days.
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>>95168618
Well, point me to the new cool social network I should use to promote my webcomic.
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>>95169932
For anyone that's taken a look at the text story-what's the cooler name for a magical girl: taiyo shojo or mahou shojo?
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>>95171347
if you tried your hardest, took a week to study, you could not have picked a picture that better illustrated my point
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>>95171752
that is a clever bot
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>>95172220
i have always heard mahou shoujo. isn't taiyo "sun" ?
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>>95170264
neat!
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>Always hated when the main protagonist of a work of fiction begins training at the start of the story, and then becomes stronger than the villains/rivals who have been training their entire lives

Since my plot will take place over the course of just a couple years at most, I'm thinking of making a rule for myself where...

>Rate a character's "power" on a scale of 1-5 at the very beginning of the story
>Because of the relative short amount of time, that character will only be able to go up by 1 point.
>Characters from a lower number can outsmart, gang up on, or trick characters from a higher number but can't outright beat in a straight fight

I think this will make the progression of people's strength a lot more realistic, but I'm worried that if the main protagonists start at a 2, and I introduce a villain/rival that is a 5, then it might feel unrewarding that the protagonist can't accomplish that cathartic anime/movie moment where he dominates the rival through the power of hardwork/justice/friendship/etc.

If the villain does lose at any point it'll be through some sort of underhanded means.
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Idea:
>high seas pirate adventure
>peg legs and parrots and hook hands etc
>finding hidden treasures
>fighting other pirates and making daring escapes from the navy
>wooing damsels
>maybe a few supernatural elements
>but they're modern-day Somalian pirates

Whaddya think?

>>95173589
I think for something like that, it's better to focus on resources and situational advantages than giving characters intrinsic "power levels".

For instance, if the hero's power level is 2, and the villain's power level is 9 because of his disintegrator gun and his army of demon t-rexes, then first the hero gets the Sword of Legend so he's power 3 (whether there's a quest to find it or a training montage to master its power is up to you, so long as the hero has to work for the upgrade). Then they sneak into the villain's bedchamber, neutralizing the demon t-rexes, and then the hero's sidekick heroically sacrifices himself to drain the disintegrator gun of its battery, reducing the villain's power level to 4, which our underdog hero might just be able to beat.

(also, the cathartic moment where the hero dominates the rival with the power of friendship can still happen- friends mean you can gang up on the fucker)
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>>95173589
You have a point, though I like it when either the hero prevails because the villains have been lazy and relying on being-the-best and nobody else ever thought to challenge them, just ASSUMING they had also been training all this time
or when the hero legitimately is significantly outclassed, and wins by a mixture of luck and determination.... the first time. Then wisely realizes (or is taught by someone wiser) that that won't happen again, and needs to legitimately get stronger for next time.
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>>95173851
I like the idea of classical storybook pirates in a more realistic modern setting (kind of. it has the potential to get really dark when they have to start slaughtering people, and when bombs and bullets exist), not so much making them third worlders (the whole fun of the classical pirate is he's got all the charm of an aristocrat with all the down-home normalcy of a peasant thief). i DO think we need more black pirates, just because it's a look that works. really suits them. but... if I were you I'd make a brand new setting altogether, with some elements of real life but not all of them
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>Hero defeats first villain with willpower and luck
>Hero knows it but he thinks he may be able to keep outsmarting it's way into heroics
>Next villain almost beats the hero to a pulp but then the previous villain comes and kicks his ass
>Hero accepts that he needs more training or else he won't be able to protect anybody
>First villain offers to become his trainer
>The story pretty much follows how the hero mixes the villain's training and his own smarts to defeat new villains
>The first villain remains in the villain category anyway but he and the hero become odd vitriolic best friends

Fund it
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>>95173983
It wouldn't be any darker than traditional pirate fiction, and just as romanticized - there's no reason a third world Somalian pirate can't be as charming as a 17th-century pirate (maybe his father was a high-up warlord who managed to get him an education in the west or something). The action scenes would be different from the usual age of sail stuff, but not necessarily more bloody - guns and bombs and cannons were already a thing back then, and a machete fight isn't really any more violent than a sword fight.
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>Comic about an ancient battle between a cult of chinese soul stealers and the monks who oppose them.
>Follows 4 highschool kids in America who were brought into the fight

Besides the main villains, I want to think of a good rival character/goal for each of the characters.

>Character 1 is a hot-headed ex-bully who began fighting with a boxing style but mixed in other striking styles like Muay Thai to help cover Boxing's obvious weaknesses in real fights.
>His major character flaws is his own pride and anger which get in the way of him also wanting to be a good person
>Rival is a super powerful, god-tier boxer that is the epitome of his anger, selfishness, and pride.
>Is a metaphor/parellel to what the character 1 would be like if he gave into his vices and never changed his ways

>Character 2 is a naturally talented kid with extreme reflexes and natural talent that likes to act like he's in an anime and go out of his way to present himself as cooler than he actually is
>His character flaws are that he relies on his natural abilities and never trains, and hides behind his anime personas because he actually lacks confidence in his "true" self
>Not strictly a rival but his character arc involves getting his ass kicked by character 1(who is diligent with his training) and his older sister(who is also powerful but is the epitome of real self-confidence) and an inner battle between his personas which gives him the motivation to shed his mental shackles


The next two don't really have a rival although I do have a vague character arc for them
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>>95174873

>Character 3 trained in the most deadly eastern martial arts but loves fighting more as a form of art or play instead of a way to injure or kill others
>Is definitely the most dangerous on the team but because of his nice nature and desire to have fun over hurt people he opts to use nonlethal WWE and power rangers moves instead.
>Don't have any real character flaws

>Character 4 begins as a depressed, unconfident nerd
>Trains in eastern martial arts focusing on inner-balance and spiritual wellness
>Overcomes his inner demons relatively early on and after expressing that fighting isn't really his thing he more-or-less drops out of the adventure
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I wish I wasn't so damn lazy
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Join us, Sisters guy. we need to commentate! Either that or install a comments feature on your site.
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>>95174996
Ohhhhhh shhhhhittttt my niggggggg,
Hype!
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So guys, still working on that shit. I'm happy with my inking, that's kinda cool now. I get some positive feedback on my art, and for once, i'm really happy on how it comes out. I guess i'm finally starting to get comfy with my abilities.
I need to improve, still, but i'm getting there.

Also I'm toying with the idea of making an horror comic for halloween, something in the lines of Junji Ito's work. Any advice on story, pacing?

>>95171347
black guy in the middle is dapper as fuck man.

I'd share a beer with him.
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>>95176326
oh, and i did a shitty garfield comic, too.
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>>95163032

kinda weird that the girl character is seen from the same exact angle in every frame not to mention that she maintains same relative size in all frames. having every panel zoom in on the girls reactions makes it really hard to tell whats going on, also if you were going for something dynamic (which im assuming from the context) you should really try for more varied perspectives
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>>95156754
>I was gonna take the time to learn how to do it, even if it meant delays.

Oh man, that's something I quite struggle with whenever I have to try drawing something new that's non-solid or incorporeal (i.e. Mist, rain, some type of magic...) the first time
This one was a particular pain in the ass, where I'm going back to edit two already-uploaded pages where the Arc Final Boss uses the Insta-Kill Eye

My MAIN restriction tends to concern the Chapter length, which is:
16 if it just follows Rich & Gwyn
18 if it involves more characters
22 if last arc of chapter
This is mainly to make sure my chapters don't last too long (I think 4 months is a decent time) and the fluff is cut out.
I have an other convoluted one on the max number of figures per panel (to prevent me from dragging myself characters by drawing to many figures in one page)

>>95170174
>Preferably ones that are timeless and don't scream of a particular culture.

Unless you're writing some sort of of very umber sci-fi universe, I don't know if you can even do that. I mean, I guess you have comics like Jojo Part 5 where clothes are very out-there, but even there it has a tint of modern Japanese.

>>95170264
This is one of the coolest new comics I've noticed here
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>tfw no feels
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There are bad ways to foreshorten, right? In a comic, do you think it's better to exaggerate, as long as it doesn't look totally retarded?
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>>95176157
Yeah, we would if we weren't utter luddites. It is a thing we'd like to change in the future, as unless you're on either site you can't really comment. But we're inept in technical stuff. We'll figure it out eventually.

But anyway, yeah, this was the end of our second season of the Sisters. It didn't really go as intended, as things were hectic on my end as a writer and we ended up finding ourselves doing more to clean up old plot threads than to delve forward into new ones. It was a bit too much decompression at time, and we spent less time with Beatrice and more time with Beatrice & Guy/The Society; which is a shame because she was going through some stuff that would've been fun to dwell on by herself. Next arc for sure.

We're at about 540 pages into the Sisters, that has been shown. Which is a pretty decent investment of time and effort. I'm pretty happy with it, but there's always a lot of room for improvement and after how talky this season was I want more action/magic shit. The little interlude will give some of that fix, but we need to deliver it more as that stuff makes the other stuff worthwhile.

Links, I suppose, for those who wanted to read the stuff:
http://thesisters-comic.com/
https://tapas.io/series/The-Sisters

>>95170264
I've lurked in a few threads recently, and I like the vibe of your stuff dude. It makes me think of the Paper Mario games, probably due to the silhouette importance and the style being a bit fun.

>>95176565
Nice to see you're still producing. I gotta catch up.
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>>95179656
Do studies and learn how perspective actually works, then you learn how to exaggerate. If you don't know what you're doing it's more likely it will look retarded then not.
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>>95174996
Cool, I don't think Dune is public domain though
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>>95179874
Do you think it could be a problem, even if I don't plan to sell it ?
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>>95179680
oh you have tapas, I guess I could comment on that (though I have to log out afterwards because it saves your place otherwise and that's terrible)
I was just laughing at that "where do the clothes go?" line, and i assumed all this time that, anytime transformy shiz happened, they either got shredded or oozed-out-of, so they should have still been there
it's not like i'm obsessed with this kind of thing or anything, not like even when i was 6 it bothered me whenever someone transformed on some cartoon and their clothes were fine..
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>>95179680
sisters! good comic I just have a few questions , hope the first isn't to personal ,how's the profit end of things? end game? how did your writer find you?
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>>95179981
Chel is the sort who would comment on that, as it bothers her too. Was sort of a throw away line after I noticed the clothes never showed up in the other transformation sequences, and Conrad never had that issue (though he took of his clothes before he went monsterful).

Chel didn't get to do as much as we'd like this chapter. She was supposed to have been watching the snuff film Liam and Ava made back in the day and complaining about the effects when Jam went upstairs to talk to Sammy. Mostly to get across Chel is not really phased by things after a wall tried to murder her.

>>95180009
This is the writer.
Profit ends for the Sisters are borderline non-existent, but enough to keep the dropbox online. We managed to score an agent from the thing, so primarily we're doing pitchworks for potential money. So, we've got the makings of money; but not money proper yet. Not ideal, but we didn't really expect to make money off the Sisters. Stuff we've sold on the side has done adequately enough.

End game is to have this be our "we can do long form continuity work" that helps establish we can develop an IP and production bible stuff. Which sorta shits on artistic integrity, but we both know what we're good at. We're doing the Sisters for a lot of reasons, that, and we like Urban Fantasy and want to contribute something to the genre that isn't super off the rails.

We found each other because we both liked D&D/tg stuff and we both liked 4th Edition when it came out---mostly because it was new. He was an Eberron guy, I am a Dark Sun guy; but we hit it off talking game shit and comics stuff. I do have a formal degree in Creative Writing / English also criminology because I wanted employment... so we just work well together. We've found our groove, and we play to one another's strengths. We've been buds for about a decade now.
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>>95180180
>We managed to score an agent from the thing, so primarily we're doing pitchworks for potential money.
I don't have enough hands to give you the applause I feel inside.
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>>95180180
That's super cool dude you two have a really good thing going that's hard to find. I bet if people thought y'all were chicks or gay this comic would take off. not trying to say anything by that but I bet you know what I mean. Keep it up though! I have a feeling I'm gonna see something of yours on shelves someday.
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>>95180447
That must explain why it's taking off halfway
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>>95180447
>>95180633
Zinger.
Also, sadly kind of a point. I outed myself the other day and we got like ten new readers. I wish I was just a few years younger, so as not to have been conditioned with keeping my personal business to myself. Apparently, I could be doing gangbusters.

As for stuff on the shelves, here's hoping dude. Glad you like/read our stuff.
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anyone want to be my artist? i have some cool ideas
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>>95180887
you don't want that kind of fans.
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>>95180887
Oh ha, yea that'll def score some points, especially with the type of comic yall have.
>>95181013
Any fan is a good fan
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if you are over 30 and making comics you should reevaluate your life, it's pretty pathetic
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>>95181013
I mean, as someone who has done certain works before where I really wanted people to get invested in a narrative; having someone who isn't there for the same sorta meeting of the minds entertainment is a smidge disheartening. But at the same time, I'm just happy people read it. Maybe I wish they read it for other reasons beyond what I'm up to, because I sure am not any representation guru; but I'm happy they choose to read my work.

I dunno, it is a complex sort of thing that once again I likely wouldn't be feeling if I were a bit younger or didn't have a past of people reading my work due to requirements or bureaucratic nonsense rather than a real desire to indulge in my stuff. But I don't get to choose my audience, and at the end of the day we make this comic for ourselves first and foremost. We've yet to pander to anyone other than ourselves, and as such I can always find some comfort that maybe people who read our stuff for surface reasons end up reading it because they like the content.

>>95181120
>type of comic.
Yeah, that's sort of the weird part of doing something that vibes half towards slice-of-life. Honestly I think the downtime makes the action worthwhile, and most of it works. Some people really like the downtime stuff, others just want the gore and action. Sometimes we hit one audience with the other side of it. We could appeal more towards target demographics, but we kind of like how the world feels right now. In terms of realness. Months later, people are still dealing with the death of a friend and not wanting to admit his faults; most people just want to get by, and most badness remains at the fringe until it gets under the skin.

Honestly the next arc will be interesting to see by way of reception.

>>95180294
Thanks. It's all just potential though. But it is nice to be seen as worthy of attention by corporate stuff.

Been fun rambling. I like popping in here from time to time. Best of luck to y'all.
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>>95170174
>How do you design character clothes? Preferably ones that are timeless and don't scream of a particular culture.
a t-shirt and jeans, tracksuit, or naked man

are the few choices you have if you want to make cultureless and timeless cloths.
cloths are a clear indicator of what's from where. there are few cloths that are worn everywhere. usually "universal" means boring
i don't know what you're looking for
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>>95176326
>black guy in the middle is dapper as fuck man.
that's Sammy Davis Jr.
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Wew, almost done. This is where I'm ending the next part. I think it's a good part to leave people hanging.

Update: Saturday(?)
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What's the prerequisite skill to start doing webcomics?
When do I know I have something that is competent enough to publish online?
And no, before you ask, I am not currently sufficiently skilled to do so at the moment.
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>>95182710
Post something of yours
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>>95182710
There's a prerequisite? I was not aware, I just started making one. It has to be competent? Geez, I just hit publish when I was done.

Am I doing this wrong?

Just go ahead and make a comic. Even if it's poorly drawn, you can get an audience if the comic is entertaining enough.
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>>95182752

absolutely not
with all the work that i have saved to my desktop there is a non-zero chance that someone from /ic/ or /co/ will recognize me and i don't want to scurry down that road
you can simply assume that i'm one step above absolutely rudimentary

>>95182772

Yes there is
I don't want to sully my mediocre ideas with embarrassingly awful execution
You can decide, from the moment you think you can start, to be Lackadaisy or something from the Bad Webcomics Wiki. I'm not in the business of immortalizing how shit I am.
There are absolutely prerequisites.
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>>95182839
I mean, okay, if that's what you think. Here's my tip to making a webcomic... just make one. Like I said, I just hit publish when I started out. Learned as I went and (hopefully) got better as I did. Your first comic isn't going to be great, but I can only hope you improve as you go along.

Pic Related: Me when I started vs Me now.
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>>95182710
You develop the skills to making comics by making comics. You will never be completely sure in your skills, and the fear of failure and ridicule will always weigh on your mind.

Don't be a pussy, start working on your comic. If you don't want to start because you think you'll make something bad, you'll never get any better.
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>>95183028
>>95183100
>>95183103

Yeah, actually, I do think I am a pussy.
I haven't had the backbone to try for eight months, why would I try again now?

Yeah, I don't think anything will come of this. Sorry for wasting your time and bumping your thread unnecessarily.
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here's the last page ever
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All my life and work is going down the drain currently. I just want to give up all together with a bullet.

But I said I wouldn't let myself die without doing my comic
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>>95183352
in retrospect, rocks with such skinny limbs were basically asking for this outcome
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>>95176546
Sorry bones, I speed it up.

I was trying other angles but, it felt weird and out of place. I didn't mean to feel samey and lazy to you. I thought I could get away with this. I guess i need to to redraw one of the panels.
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Total newfag here, new to making comics and I'm currently designing the cast/locations (character/location designs can really eat up time), it's technically best described as a cape book but it does take elements from several genres. Any cape fans or comic creators have some advice for a noob?
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Well last week was a break but now I can come back to comics!
Still working on the tumblr page for the English version tho, my fault there for wanting to have a nice cast section first.

Eitherway, it's a story about face in your money and making a cute bug lady upset at your horrible money management. Next week will be the hyw challenge about giants.
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>>95183471
Cape books are really flexible on themes actually, it isn't a genre as much as it is a "well in this story there is a hero with superpowers and a costume".

The best advice I could give though is that you be careful with the worldbuilding. Worldbuilding is nice so you can have a coherent setting and all, but you can spend years on it trying to make it perfect instead of just having half of it set and the other half work it on the go while doing the actual comic.
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>>95183416
I wouldnt take advice from ghastly, as much as I adore his comic and it was a seminal influence on me (teehee)
last i checked he's moved on to tracing CG models
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>>95183100
I... Like the art on the first page better and it's not just the colors. It's more lively I dunno
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>>95183593
>he's moved on to tracing CG models
True, but I don't see any connection between this and the advice.
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>>95183625
I guess I stopped reading at "Don't do spritecomics hurr"
spritecomics are what they are.
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Same newfag from above, thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
On another topic, I've been discussing it with the guy working with me on the comic, do you guys think a web comic inspired by manga/anime is likely to do better than a comic more heavily inspired by western comics?
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>>95183773
Depends on how you make the publicity. As long as it isn't unpleasant to the eye and you have a good sense of scenery/angles/pacing even doodle-like comics can do well.
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>>95183773
>do better
"do" in what sense? I will like it better, assuming you're any good at it.
Keep in mind that manga itself was heavily inspired by western comics
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True true, what i mean is which fan base is likely to be more receptive. I should have been more specific.
My art style is somewhere between western and manga, more cartoony than the average western comic yet more detailed than the average manga. I try to keep some of the appeal from both. With that in mind I'm pondering how I should label it based on how likely each fan group is to respond positively. But stylistically you could honestly label it as either.
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>>95183981
Post an example of your drawing skills so we can get a better idea
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>>95183981
It's not a good idea to worry that much about pleasing groups. No matter your motivation for doing so, that effort would be better spent on just making your comic as good as you can (sure it's easier to get appeal and response, but there's a reason that's easier. Easy come, easy go)
In any case though, if it's in-between, you're in good shape (though your description makes no sense. how can it be both more cartoony and more detailed? and I hope you aren't thinking in such simplistic terms as if those are what define those styles) because somewhere-in-between-the-two is the most popular by far
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>>95183352
more recycle bin material that will fade into obscurity in some lonely corner of the internet. RIP, you won't be missed
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Ah, my bad.
A better way of saying it is my designs are more stylized than the average western comic and they have a clear manga influence.
Basically western proportions with a manga flair. Sorry if that's not a great description.
I'd post pics but I've only got access to my phone at the moment.

And good point about concerning myself with which groups I'm aiming for. Making something with high quality is the top priority .
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>>95183981
Learn to reply.
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>>95184314
Literally just figured it out.
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>>95184259
oh I get what you mean now. And when you say western comic you're speaking more of capes than of peanuts. something very realistic, and thus something stylized is moving away from it.
It sounds like your heart's in the right place, so I say go for it.
I don't suppose any of your art is online in a place where we could easily search for it
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>>95184507
no need for a question mark there
this page's layout confuses me a little, but i'm sure it will make more sense once it's done.
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>>95184494
Seems cultists don't like TRAITORS

Also nice to see you again after some time, are you doing well?
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>>95184439
You're dead on, my art style is somewhere between the realistic cape style and an ecchi/shonen style.
Currently I've got none of my good stuff online do to going on a long hiatus, needed some time to improve and I didn't want to post my many mistakes during that period.
I'm going to be doing a bunch of promo type pics, portfolio pieces is the term unless I'm mistaken, staring characters from the comic before I start posting the comic though.
I'll post them here when I can.
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>>95184561
hmm, I guess you're right, like it will have a ellipsis there instead, though I guess it can go either way.
For the layout, hmm, possible it might be because the fourth panel words bleed into the first panel, so I'll change that. Maybe I should move the first panel's dialog higher too.
>>95184571
blugh, college started again, plus I'm working on a porn comic that will hopefully do well!
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>>95184575
The puzzle pieces are all coming together now. It's funny how similar a rank amateur and a very serious professional can sound. I can tell now you're the latter. Mad respect for that, but if the stick up your ass ever starts to feel uncomfortable, feel free to remove it while you're here. Not so much that you can relax and not worry about judgment, but just that the more seriously you take yourself the more you're a magnet for it.
>>95184647
It is an odd quirk of grammar that is currently somewhat in flux. Stating out loud that you have a question is still not the same as a question, but we're getting to the point that it's almost official to -drop- question marks in sentences that would otherwise be questions, if they're fully rhetorical and spoken with a downward inflection. Things like "he's right, isn't he."
>porn
oh you had BES be sharin that with us. Your emotionally expressive art is just what porn needs to be good.
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>>95164163

Your patrons have good taste.
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>>95184700
That feels strange, though I guess any changes in grammar will always feel off.
but thanks! basically the porn comic will be about witch superheroes (since that's the writer's thing and mine put together) and it focuses on light hearted mind-break and submissive stuff (plus minor other elements).
There's no real story involved since we're sick of ten pages of exposition before sex, so ours only has a page of set-up or immediate sex.
I guess I would sum this up as Angel Corps but without fucking gore or death
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I just finished the cover for the first chapter.
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>>95176546
there you go.
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>>95172833
It is. In the text story at http://www.capeworldcomics.com/comic/magical-woman-1/ its explained that magical girls started when Amaterasu was attacked by Pele as revenge for Pearl Harbor. The sun goddess bled over Japan and her blood in the form of red light gave several woman magic power that passes down from mother to daughter.

These new superhumans were first called taiyo shojo or "sun girls" to honor Amaterasu. The rest of the world simply called them magical girls because that was the most obvious thing about them and Japanese culture gradually absorbed the term as mahou shojo. In modern Japan the two terms are virtually interchangeable, although taiyo shojo has old-fashion connotations.

A magical girl from a few generations back is more likely to be called a taiyo shojo than a mahou shojo.
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>>95168480
You gotta push through it, that's what writers with wb do it.
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>>95168856
Do something long enough, and it become hard to continue doing, even if it's something you're passionate about.
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>>95174075
Why would the first villain want to help someone that beat him? What does he have to gain from it?
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>>95185535
Maybe he was just a villain because being a villain is funnier and saw potential in the hero as a worthy opponent, so he is grooming him into becoming his perfect nemesis.
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>>95185612
Is the villain the main boss?
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>>95185671
Yes.
No more luck factor here, just pure power vs pure power, to see who is the last one standing in their great epic final battle.
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>>95185715
That makes since now
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got a new one for you guys
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>>95154898
Do they have one of these for animated series?
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It's been I while. I've been busy trying to get a new job, in a few days I'll know if I get it. Meanwhile I'll dump the latest stuff I've done.
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Second page.
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>>95186466
Just one more to go.
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>>95186485
That's all folks.
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>>95185213

Great job anon! That really helped the page a lot!
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>>95164916
The central focus is in the middle, which is my world's equivalent of the Middle East

I got a few drawings of uniforms too but it's got anthros in it
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tfw taking an indefinite hiatus from my webcomic because fuck it
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>>95186711
Tell me about your world Anon.

>It's got anthros in it

So does our Metal Animals universe (which also has giant knight robots and a post apocalyptic feudal setting).

http://www.capeworldcomics.com/chapter/metal-animals/

It won one of the /co/ challenges so /hyw/ can't be too anti-fur. Go ahead and post what you got.
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>>95176326
Some of the lettering could do with improvement. The space is there, the text just needs to fit into the space better.

P1, P5 & P6: rearrange the line breaks.
P3: coFfee
P4: Center the text block; nudge it down and right a few pixels.
P5: No crossbar-capital-i for "If"
P7: A more circular speechballoon would fit better than a vertical oval.
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Suggested text changes,etc:

>>95186455
P1 Dialogue 1: Insert a line break into "Finish off // that bitch."
P1 Dialogue 2: End with a double dash -- instead of an ellipsis to indicate speech that's suddenly interrupted. Ellipses are more of a slow pause than a sudden stop.

>>95186466
P10, linebreaks and grammar: "Well, well... // Did you think // you could ..."

>>95186485
P4 & 5: double dashes again to link the dialogue.

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>>95187139
>>95176326
One other thing I've just spotted: In panel 8 I'd have the speechballoon tail exit from the side, next to "brutal", and point to his mouth, rather than from the bottom and pointing to his shoulder.

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Lettering is just as much a part of the art in comics as the drawings themselves; great art can be let down by shoddy lettering. Spending a little more time getting it just right will improve things considerably.
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>>95184900
Excellent work, anon.
For some reason the bad and horrendously bad (coldfusion, dewd, bones) artists usually get more replies and attention than the good ones - that's probably why they keep coming back.
Anyways, this looks really promising, the colors are especially nice. Really looking forward to your first chapter, anon.
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>>95187007
Alright then. The world's story is veeeery long but the gist of it is that the world's two major superpowers ended a war in a stalemate. One is Ankberia, an autocratic/stratocratic empire inspired by Nazi Germany + Soviet Russia, the other is Darrazee, a republic where corporations have more power than the government: in the aforementioned conflict they gave war loans to those poor nations that needed support, unofficially turning them into debt slaves and controlling them indirectly through economic power. The two superpowers operate with the excuse of world peace but do it at the expense of the independence of the countries they conquer, whether they're open about it, such as in Ankberia's case, or not, like Darrazee. The two superpowers exploit the continent of West Talar in preparation of a second war for supremacy.

The world is the same size as Earth but is a little colder. It's also more geologically active and the eruption of two supervolcanoes plunged Rejka in a volcanic winter with the zones closest to these craters turned into ash wastelands. The world has 4 hybrid sapient species, all anthro. The technological level is that of the Old West.

I'll stop here or I'll go on forever. Here's one of the uniforms I mentioned for the time being
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Welp. I have a new mirror, and a sketchbook, so I'm gonna draw myself partly-naked. My human body is my weak-point.
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>>95184900
Dats sum gud jazz brutha
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here are some more redone pages of Landship Up.
College has kind of left me drained so redoing old pages is all I can do for the moment.
Any critiques going forward? You guys have really helped me out so far.
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>>95187630
String phones don't actually work if the string isn't taut.
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>>95187630
I changed the panel composition to be vertical and split the pages up, to make more readable.
If anyone has any pointers on writing a strained family dynamic, I'd really appreciate it.
Should I go to /lit to get writing advice?
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>>95185446
The soccer player attacked the Japanese sun God?
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>>95187658
Duly noted. I'll have to fix that. that explains why it looked kind of weird.
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>>95187680
Other Pele.

She did not take kindly to Pearl Harbor and wanted revenge (which in this setting Amatersu participated in. Part of the lore is that the Imperial Japanese government manipulated the kami through lies, threats, and promises to create an army to rival the American superhero population)

They had a huge fight all across the Pacific. The ocean boiled, islands cracked, and in the end they both retreated to their homelands to lick their wounds.

I'm trying my best to make Capeworld's lore rival other superhero universes. There's tons of lore just behind Japan's taiyo shojo.
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>>95187826
>>95187680
>>95185446
>>95172833
If you guys have anymore questions about the lore of Magical Woman I'm more than happy to answer them.

I think the text story does a good job of explaining the basics, but if it doesn't I'd like to know what wasn't clear.
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R8 the edge
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>>95188069
Just a demon guy. It doesn't seem edgy at all.
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>>95188069
Teenager's first edge. He's got an adorable :3 expression and he doesn't even have the silhouette of a dick.
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>>95188069
Well, it's less buff hellboy. Hellboy's not very edge - maybe in desing but not in character.
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>>95188284
That doesn't even make sense.
Stalinism =/= Communism
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>>95188127
>>95188194
>>95188441

Great, I was worried it would come off as tryhard
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>>95188069
Pretty edgy. He's got shamrock shake all over him. He could've just drank it, but he had to spill it all over himself to just show what a bad ass dude he is.

The edge.
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>>95188469
>its not real communism
Fuck off
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>>95112066
you know i don't say this very often guys, but i'm gonna die
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>>95184887
I'm all for some light-hearted mindbreak and submission. It's rare you get that without it going full Gor, and you never wanna go full Gor
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>>95187139
thanks boyo!
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>>95184900
Cuuuute. Have you posted before? It looks new. ALso very nice texturing.
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>>95185446
>magical girls started when Amaterasu was attacked by Pele as revenge for Pearl Harbor.
I fucking love it. In that case, keep the sun girls thing.
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>>95186186
the expressions..
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>>95187659
awwwww babby rabbys
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>>95187826
>in real life the emperor claimed to be descended from the gods
>in this setting the gods were manipulated by the government
i love it. it works that in nicely while also allowing for japan to become good guys after that government was deposed and a nicer one put into place.
I have to wonder though how Pele felt about the US in general. cant have been too fond.
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>>95154898

I keep being told by my proofreaders that the characters that are somewhat supposed to be the main characters are boring and uncompelling. They have goals, they have backstories, one even has a tragic past. But nobody really cares about them relative to the side characters. Plus my proofreaders are being useless and not giving suggestions on how to change the characters up. What do?
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>>95191361
How would we know? We haven't read it.
Why do your proofreaders like the side characters? Why do they think your main characters are dull?
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>>95191361
Get better proofreaders.
Talking more seriously though, it's all about execution. Tragic backstories and clear goals mean nothing if their personalities and behavior are bland.
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>>95191361
Goals and backstories do not equate to likeable personalities, and personality is the main element that makes a character endearing and enduring. Try describing your characters making no reference to their occupations, backstories, or goals. Do this for both your major and minor character's, describe what they'd be like if they were just some guy you had a short conversation I'm the bus with, and see what your main characters are lacking.
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>>95187354
thank you, this made my day.

>>95190402
Yeah, but I did posted a few pages for the #403 thread. Here's another page sample, still working on it.
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>>95192328
Personally I wouldn't want compliments from people who feel the need to put others down, but in any case this is good stuff, please stick around.
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>>95190481
The terms are both used in the setting, but taiyo shojo tends to be used to refer to older magical girls while mahou shojo refers to younger ones. It's sort of like the difference between Lady and Miss. They sort of mean the same thing but one is a little more formal than the other.

>>95190931
>I have to wonder how Pele felt about the US in general

In this timeline the Blount Report of 1893 didn't get to be ignored by the provisional government and overturned a year later. Instead several American pulp-era superheros acted on it and restored the monarchy.

Pele actually likes America because the superheros seemingly carried out the will of Grover Cleaveland's government.

It's just one of many ways superhumans altered the timeline in the Capeworld setting.

Another fun Capeworld fact: China never went full commie like it did in our timeline. It's local superhuman population of superhuman youxia kicked the communists out and they formed a tiny splinter nation called the People's Republic of China or PRC.

In our world the PRC under the one China policy is China and Taiwan is the splinter nation. In Capeworld China is China and PRC is the splinter nation.

>>95191361
Post your stuff or post a link. I'd be glad to take a look at it.
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>>95189992
>Calarts bean mouth

stopit!
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>>95191361
Make your side characters the main characters, duh. You'll quickly see whether the main characters were actually uninteresting or your plot / writing isn't good enough to keep your readers interested once you go beyond the surface traits with a character.
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>>95187354
>For some reason the bad and horrendously bad (coldfusion, dewd, bones) artists usually get more replies and attention than the good ones
Let us break this fucking pattern, people of /co/. Let's comment good shit more.
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>>95192395
Normally I'd apologize for my comment but the three stooges are notorious retards who deserve the flack they get. You'll realize that even the least technically skilled artists who post here will get positive feedback and are generally accepted as long as they show some will to improve.
Bones is a 90% confirmed fake who creates webcomics for the sole purpose of baiting and shitposting. Don't defend them.
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>>95192762
well if they actually are older, one imagines they'd start saying taiyonna

I like a lot of these details. this is a fun alternate timeline
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>>95189956
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>>95189992

What program do you use for colors, anon?
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>>95192395
Oh I didn't mean it that way.I was referring to the later part of the anon's comment. And thank you too, I'll do my best.
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>>95193202
cold and dewd get mostly ignored, with any attention being negative, so no
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>>95193227
>Taiyonna

That's actually a really cool sounding name. I'm going to see about incorporating that into the writing. Thanks Anon!
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>>95192395
>>95193288
You two are too nice for this place, get out while you still can.
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>>95193382
whom do you think you're talking to?
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>>95193108
I don't think that's possible.

Bad stuff is easy to comment on; the worse it is, the easier it gets to provide useful advice regardless of genre - whether it's superheroes or teen drama or space opera, if the spelling's wrong or the anatomy is broken beyond belief, you can point out what's wrong and make suggestions how to fix it.

Decent-to-good stuff is much harder to talk about constructively, especially if it's of a genre you're not yourself into. Like, take >>95184221 for example. I can't give that any meaningful advice because I have little way to tell apart actual flaws in the anatomy and stylistic choices that will enhance the story for its target audience of twink-loving gayfags.

I guess I could post at every single page where I don't see any glaring flaws and go "yeah that's decent", but that's not really doing anything other than wasting time and bump limit.
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>>95192994
i didn't want to try to do a realistic mouth because i was scared of reaching a "uncanny valley"
>>95193242
i use photoshop, but try to work in increments of 10s between color settings. sometimes i go in 5s if needed
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>>95193556
>the easier it gets to provide useful advice regardless of genre
It is true. But with good art we must provife not an advice, but cheering. Its profitable for the whole community in the long run.
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Hi guys! I'm so excited!! After 2 years of procrastination, I finished story boarding & I put out the first page of my comic today :3

http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/the-first-one/intro/viewer?title_no=33151&episode_no=2
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>>95193712
example
narrowing things down really does help when choosing between so many colors
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>>95193072

>Make your side characters the main characters, duh

People keep telling me not to do that though.
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>>95194314
When they say that, what they mean is "don't do what you are currently doing, which is making side characters into main characters"
Honestly though I see no problem with making the main characters the least interesting. It's tradition
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I hate how the longer you work on something, your work looks significantly different than earlier pages.

I'm almost tempted to redraw all my older pages, but I won't get anywhere if I just keep redrawing stuff.
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>>95195071
Leave them like that, let it be proof of how much you improved over time.
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>>95195071
I leave all my old stuff up even though now I feel like I could do better. It serves as a reminder of how I progressed and what not to do.
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>>95195071
even the professionals have that
Hell, the longer dragon ball shit goes on the worse the style looks, even if the actual anatomy and skill and technical whatnot continued to improve.
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>>95196193
whoa, we cowboy shinigami now?
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>>95196269
It's for a short spinoff comic voted for by our patrons (inspired by the cheesecake linked above, which they also voted for)

This one:
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>>95196706
I hope you're getting a lot of money on that patreon given how you're putting more work and time into rewards than the comic
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Welp, here's a WIP of what im working on thus far. Turns out, I have absolutely no clue how to draw a crowd of people. Just need to add some plants for the planter and I guess it'll be fine.
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>>95197350
crowds are hard.
if you post this one at a good disply size I can analyze it for you. as it stands now i'm getting that broken-image icon because my browser just refuses
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>>95197404
This a good size?
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>>95197487
excellent
holy crap that frontmost guy in the third panel looks familiar.
those crowds look very good, that's roughly like i was going to suggest
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>MFW bones
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>>95196784
We definitely do more pages than extras (plus extras are good for keeping patrons and thus ensuring more pages).
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>tfw a fellow anon from hyw follows you back
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>>95198448
>tfw some people actually put up links to your comic on their sites without our prompting
>and you haven't linked them back
>even though it's been months if not years
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>>95198517
I feel bad about it too, but I'm just genuinely not as much a fan of their work
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>>95198582
Yeah no I get that, linking is like a recommendation to your readers and it should be done responsibly.
My problem though is just plain old procrastination.
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>>95198517
>>95198694
Yeah same here. Actually just today began giving follow to many anons from here and comics because I already had the links but didn't do anything with them on my actual artblog. Baby steps I guess.
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>>95179680
Ditto, I haven't been keeping up with most web-comics I enjoy recently; you say this is is the send of "season 2", do you have a planned amount of seasons?

>Which is a pretty decent investment of time and effort.

"Decent investment"? That's what people who do webcomics full time produce in the amount of time your guys have been at it! I started mine some months before your and I've got around 130 pages done (and 21 pages left to the end of this arc), you guys have done an outstanding job
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>>95198694
Yeah I'll cop to that as well, there's a solid dozen comics I should link to that I haven't gotten around to
Not that my links page is doing anyone any favors, doesn't even hage images. and obviously nobody goes to it
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>>95191361
No one likes L from Deathnote because he grew up in an orphanage. And no-one likes Dan from Dan Vs because he was a nice little boy who broke one summer vacation. Also, why are you trying to turn me against your proofreaders?
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>>95199249
It's weird, if someone asked me the other week who had more pages, I'd say it was you. Sisters doesn't feel like it's been 500+
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>>95199249
Spring, Summer, Winter
Spring, Summer, Fall
Winter, Spring, Summer

We've got nine, though we could end it at five. Five is the height of things, but the idea is that we'd end it with Jam going off to college and getting away from her family. Felt like a nice bookend to start her off very enthusiastic about learning magic and then end it on her trying to be happier with herself.

We think of our issues as episodes, so it helps with the flow of things. Generally eight-or-nine issues to a seasonal arc. Mostly they're sorted as arcs by who is in focus. First year is mostly on Erin, second year is more on Beatrice, last year is more on Jam; but you can see how that's more of a guiding mentality that practice. Erin's not so much the main character of the first two seasons, she's just the catalyst for a lot of the bad stuff.

>>95200193
We appreciate that. Posting four pages a week might help it feel like it flows quicker, or there's been less pages. We also produce by way of scenes, so each update feels generally self-contained.
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>>95201068
oh man, college Jam definitely sounds like a point where it would become a new series and gain a new title or something
>4 pages a week
that's what it is, I'm not thinking of each update as multi-page, even though it is.
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Hello I come here to share some nice words from Mad Rupert on comic-making
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>>95202662
>>95202679
Thanks Rupert
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Things get a little fan-service-y on this and part of the next page. But the black-haired character is being controlled in her sleep to steal things.

Each person controlled in their sleep is being shown something different. This character is kind of a pervert, and at least at the moment has a crush on the MC after she protected her from someone. So when she's being controlled, she sees a version of the MC, in a skimpier outfit both to appeal to the perverted one, and also so she has a different outfit in case the real and fake MC appear together in the future.

This is going to build to where the guy who controls people in their sleep is a major villain. But in this part, it's the one old guy, his cyborg daughter and his secretary trying to set a trap for a thief who is stealing things- and this character being controlled to defeat the trap.
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I made a new page!

https://imgur.com/a/kcSwo
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>>95203842
good concept.
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>>95203887
Oh I remember this. Glad you're still goin'. Those are some pretty heavy effects.
>>95204393
Huh. I was wrong about this making more sense when it was finished. Are the witch ladies just a memory? The fact that she's actually looking at her ... memory-self being dragged off is a little weird. that's not how memory usually works. But if that isn't her, the what the beans is happening?
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>>95204460
her unconscious friend is currently being dragged away, no memory flashback involved, maybe the context would make more sense if you've seen the last two pages (since I move so slow, everyone probably forgot)
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>>95204526
I guess the issue is "has witches with hands on her shoulders -> same or similarly-hatted witches carrying someone away by her shoulders"
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Does this sentence make sense?

"Doesn't everything here belong to you anyway?"

It's being told to a character who is robbing his own palace. It's supposed to be my punchline but it feels poorly constructed. Wat do?
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>>95204986
Sounds grammatically correct to me
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>>95204986
"But don't you already own everything here?"
"But you already own everything in here!"
"Everything in here already belongs to you."
"But don't you already own all this?"
"Don't you own everything in here?"

Not grammatically incorrect, but I could see how it might feel awkward.
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>>95205204
Thanks a lot for your help ;_; I think the 4th sentence will work

>tfw only a line of dialog and got stuck for hours.
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>>95155715

guess whos got a fresh new wip? :3
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>>95205204
At the end I used the 3rd one. I just made it into a question

"you know everything in here already belongs to you, right?

It works fine I think. Thanks again.
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>>95205688
nice titties
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>>95205739

I know right? lol
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>>95188069
>red marks aren't swastikas and upside down crosses
>smiling

Not edgy enough for me.
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>>95196193

How lewd will this get?
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>>95205688

done. ok im gone, cya next time yall! :D ^^
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>>95204526
Happy to see i was of help for that hand, threads ago man!
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>>95201068
Oh man, now I REALLY have to get back into this, then. I first I thought it was going to be more of a trilogy; Chapter 1 to the one called "The Truth" being the first "book".

Still, I find it insane that Peter manages to draw 4 pages a week while ALSO making some of the best looking pages in /hyw/. I don't know if I've mentioned it before, but I also appreciate how the comic isn't too decompressed; looking back at old chapters, each update moves the story significantly forward, feeling more like a self-contained "scene" from a TV drama rather than something which requires the context of what came directly before and what'll come directly after in order to make sense

Many webcomic artists I think work with the idea of a published comic issue or chapter from a manga magazine in mind (i.e. what matters is the final product) without thinking that the reader often has to wait seven days for the next page.

I ->try<- to do that same; not always successfully, but The Sisters is a perfect example of each update standing on it's own. If anything I need a proofreader to help me avoid dumb shit I regret putting in the comic a month after the page is up on the site
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Before the color, Photoshop
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>>95202662
>>95202679
They're a bit of a little bitch irl, but it's good advice.
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>>95208189
the next step: trash can
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>>95205697
good choice, sarcastic rhetorical questioning when feeling incredulous is always nice
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>>95208189
Wasn't expecting this to be on paper.
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>>95187139
Just draw porn.
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>>95196193
Aaand it's done.

>>95205856
Carry On film levels? More cheesecakey/innuendoes than full frontal bonking (this time anyway).
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Man, I really hope I get my cintiq soon. Ever since I left scad, I've been doing it all on pen and paper and it's been so slow.

Especially since I dont have the luxury of simply just scaling things if I accidentally draw them too big or too small
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>>95212626
right? that's so danged useful. that and rotating
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>>95212803
It especially helps when I'm trying to do something in perspective and I just need that one little nudge so it looks perfect, rather than slightly off.
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HOL UP.
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>>95174996
Might want to work on the typography; from the thumbnail I thought it said "dung".
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>>95214752
WE WUZ WEBCOMIC ARTISTS AND SHEIT
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How would you go about writing a saint if your narrative is not trying to be particularly religious and you are not just retelling the story of an IRL saint but making your own character that will become one?
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Last week I had the added benefit of a three day weekend and no homework to work on my comic and now I don't. I'm probably not going to be able to get another weekend update done this time.

But I'm sure as hell going to try.
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>>95216510
What are their saintly qualities?
Are they destined to become a martyr for their faith and/or are they a paragon of a particular virtue or ideal?

Look up the biographies of some saints and how their faith and morals affected and inspired their community or the world around them.
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>>95216568
Good luck anon! We believe in you!
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bump
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When I'm with you all I get is wild thoughts
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>>95216568
man i hear that.
i've got a mom-guilt unpaid commission for her friend's birthday drawing something really dumb, or else i'd be working on my comic
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>>95206459

VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poNlqL4icbg&feature=youtu.be
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I've gotten some good feedback in previous threads, and now at last I've launched my comic. Here's page 1!

site: https://calaois-art.tumblr.com/contents
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>>95190680
thanks, i try to get them down as much as possible
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there's plenty of exercises to improve how you draw people, but are there any on drawing backgrounds?
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>>95222858
yes, it's called drawing backgrounds.
in all seriousness look up perspective made easy, do all of the exercises and start drawing the scenery around you. draw your room, your kitchen, the view outside your window, your local park, and whatever else you can think of. as you start to get a better feel for things, start constructing scenes from imagination, applying what you've learned and observed. you improve at drawing backgrounds by drawing backgrounds, so get to it
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>>95221205
Oh yeah I remember you!

Not sure if this is just me or indeed a site thing, but it's a bit confusing to navigate, maybe it would be better to just let the first or last page show up immediately.
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>>95208657
shit

I think one of my weaknesses is dialogue , need to work on that. or just give up entirely
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Random Deertaur doodle.
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>>95224262
>>95221205
This. I couldn't figure it out at all, and then the navigation arrows are literally from optical illusions
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>>95221205
Only patrons get to see nsfw bits? I wish I could tolerate that better.
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>>95224262
Okay, that shouldn't be too hard to fix. Thanks!
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>that feel when you just fixed a huge continuity error and you're almost glad nobody ever reads your comic
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>>95224262
Thanks again. I've made some better nav arrows (I hope!).
And whoops, I'd linked to the contents page before. Plain calaois-art.tumblr.com goes to the most recent post.
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>>95229437
>calaois-art.tumblr.com
Ah that is better. Also I like that dice icon for the random button
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coming up with new villains!
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>>95230689
even for you, this is good.
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It took a very long time, but I finally figure out how I want to approach coloring this page. Although this is really slow going unfortunately.
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The next part of the fight is going to be: "I'm not letting my weapon go, so do your wor- OH GOD"
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What do you guys think of this idea.

It's essentially a headquarters for a type of council of judges.
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>>95233771

The idea was to contrast intimidation with an inner beauty and peace of mind.

Trying to work on my world imagery, environments and atmosphere.
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>>95227886
I'd post sample here to make you feel better, but... blue board.
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How do you guys feel about Kubo's method of conquering writers block by creating loads ox extra characters? Apparantly this is what the writer of Bleach did a lot when he was stumped for ideas.
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>>95233270
So it's boku no pico in space?
Your art is pretty good for hyw standards though.
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>>95234004
Post it in xxxhyw in aco. Those threads have probably better discussion than most regular hyws anyway.
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>>95234569
Not a terrible idea, but really takes you out of the story. I think he just liked designing characters
Should have worked on a fighting game or an rpg
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>>95235337
sorta, but without the shotas, it's a comic that takes place at the very end of a huge saga of comics i have planned but is ultimately unimportant and just fluff and hardcore porn, so i figured i might as well do it first, work on some skills and paneling
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>>95234569
Terrible idea, dozens of chapters of random side characters having fights of little to no consequence to the over-arching story is one of the worst aspects of Bleach. The worst offenders are probably the final stage of hueco mundo and that fight for the pillar things at the beginning of the Aizen battle.
Now Bleach is a battle comic but I don't think this method would work well with any genre except maybe comedy or gag Comics.
If you're at a point where you can't write anything but this, you should just go on hiatus instead. Kubo, Kishi and to a lesser extent Oda (and pretty much any WSJ battle manga) have lots of crappy quasi-filler because of creative methods like that. It's the shedule. To illustrate: this is why hxh puts everyhting in current WSJ to shame - when you spend 3/4 of a year in hiatus, you have enough time ti develop your storry without having to resort to cheap trick to combat writer's blocks.
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>>95234569
Well, post SS, Bleach just kept getting worse and worse as new characters were introduced, so I'd advise against it.

Plus, you can't have a large cast in a webcomic unless you update 3-4 times a week. Else you either don't give most of them them enough screen time, or you have a huge cast of shallow character
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>>95235587
Shallow but likable characters are good if you have a big fanbase who fill in the blanks themselves. More fan art means more readers
I mean most of the trolls in homestuck are shallow but suddenly Eridan wears drag sometimes
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>>95233771
Awesome.
Feels like a more mytic version of designs from the Blame! Universe and also reminds me of the tenebras lux thing from the incal..
Is this still the story with the tentacle dude and the outfit-switching loli?
I think you explained once that most of your short comics are conected somehow but you really ought to do a consecutive story, ongoing or at least a dozen chapters or so. You have incredible potential.
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>>95235539
it worked for homestuck
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>>95235645
Yes this is all related.

The story they are from is 200 pages long and already finished. This is all a sort of build up for a "sequel" kind of. More like a continuation. But from another role.
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>>95234569
>taking writing advice from the first of the Big 3 to crumble
>from the author who said in an interview he wanted to be a fashion designer
>from the author who phoned it in an entire arc where backgrounds were mostly blank and empty
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>>95233312
Can you give any tips on coloring? Your page looks fine.
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>>95235637
Again, HS updated multiple times a DAY, and the author already had four very long "Acts" involving only four characters behind the story.

Plus, as someone else pointed out, you're choosing to get writing advice from the only "Big 3" who had his manga cancelled because it kept going down in sales. Kubo treated his manga like some sort of fighting game series where you just want to see what new character they add in the next installment. Oda had an actual ADVENTURE going on, character with a proactive goal (Find OP, defeat Mihawk, draw map of the world, etc...) while Ichigo's was reactive (Gotta protect my friends!)

Also lastly, you're not Andrew Hussie. Say whatever you want about HS, but Hussie is a writer with some years of experience and HS is a fairly complex story to pull off. You, I'm going to guess, probably haven't written/drawn much besides a couple of short stories (feel free to prove me wrong)
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>>95235954
>he wanted to be a fashion designer
just look at his dyed hair, corny shades, and tight shirts. he doesn't want to be with the mangaka crowd, he wants naive aspiring models that he can take to the backroom and "draw". not dirty fujoshi pestering him about the intricacies of the relationship between whatever gay couple they ship.
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>>95236253
ONE managed to make OPM have lots of characters and be successful. Sure it started with Saitama and Genos just fighting the next monster of the week, but then it shortly became about lots of different characters who build up to Saitama
Series that juggle between dozens of characters aren't so uncommon that no one can aspire to do it

What's important though is if the fights matter at least to the characters fighting or at the very least be interesting. With Bleach during the fake karakura town arc and Naruto during the great war arc the characters fighting could have been doing it with someone else and it would have mattered just as much and the choreography is phoned in
You can have supporting characters fight each other, but you can't have to many of them fight. Over saturation never works. These detour battles did work in the earlier arcs of bleach and has worked in other series but when we're seeing an episode of the 5th seat of the 11th division fight the 20th strongest enemy who can care?
There's also that the pacing of these episodes suck to because they dont want to catch up with the manga
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>>95236492
tl;dr: you can let your MCs estranged brother have time to shine if you're in a block, but you dont need the janitor who's just a recurring background character suddenly have stories
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>>95235954
>Kubo Araki one-shot collaboration

A man can dream!
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>>95235689
>200 pages long and already finished
Can you provide a link where I can read it from start to finish?
I think you posted a Tumblr or something similar some time ago and correct me if I'm wrong but I think you had to kinda search for the stuff individually which is really annoying.
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>>95237062
It's all hosted on DA but DA is shit for reading comics. Easiest way to read it is probably my Pixiv: https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?type=all&p=2

Story title is IV
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>>95237457
>https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?type=all&p=2

Either this link is broken or I Need to create an account to view something on this site which I'm not gonna do, sorry.
This Situation kinda illustrates the Problem with your Comic: it's really good and People want to read it but it's too inaccessible. You should really consider uploading your Comic to a proper webcomic site or just create your own like plenty of People ITT have.
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>>95237638
>>95237457
I agree. You got good material but you need a home for it. Go make yourself a wordpress site, they're not hard to make. Even I figured out how to make one.
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>>95237638
>>95237457
the pixiv links broken, pretty sure. I'm logged into my pixiv and don't get anything. I searched Deviantarts comic section for "IV" but I didnt find it either.
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>>95237638
>>95237731
>>95237801

My bad. I haven't browsed pixiv without an account in over a decade so I had forgotten how impossible it is to navigate without one.

I'm still trying to figure out what to do about hosting an actual web comic. This isn't that though, this was done for a contest which is why it's not as spread out across all 8 of my social media accounts like some of the other stuff is. But it's good to know what to link people to and what not to link people to.

I'll take wordpress under advisement.

What about this link: https://bridgefirecomics.deviantart.com/gallery/60429275/AATR4-Comic

Can you reach it there?
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Achievement unlocked.

I finally decided to dabble in pattern brushes. And I really don't know why I hadn't invested time in figuring it out sooner. I was drawing these paper dolls by HAND before.
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>>95238482

And since we're talking links. Can any of you access this without a DA account?

https://sta.sh/0fff8g5v0vx

That's just a straight download of the whole comic in a zip file.
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I posted it for you at
>>1715082
in the Webcomic 34 thread on /aco/. (Did not see a hywc, very sleepy, did not want to start one and do it wrong)
Enjoy, hope it makes you feel better!
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Finally updated my goddamn comic.

I also did a short prologue, which can be found here:
http://mostlylizard.com/?p=54

Hopefully updates will come at a more non-shitty pace now.

>>95238536
Works find in icognito mode. The download too.
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>>95239536
I think you wanted
>>>/aco/1715082
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>>95238507
niceu
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>>95232618
is... that a compliment? anyway thanks! any suggestions for the names? I'm not that good naming chracters
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>>95238482
Used the link on your dA to actually get to your pixiv to read it (honestly would have dropped it because of the insane amount of work it requires to read a comic on dA) the premise is quite interesting, if a bit narrow in the scope of the people who can relate. What about uploading the rest of the chapters to pixiv? Only seeing chapter 1 (which is split into two parts? pixiv album image limit?)
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why are these threads so dead lately? all the bullies scare everyone away?
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>>95233312
very nice coloring
you want a word between "was" and "last"
most likely 'the' or possibly 'one' if the 'last' refers to the last one he'll take rather than the last one she's got.
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>>95233771
>>95233802
beautiful. getting some "the three most important people in the world" vibes
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>>95236124
Unless I am commenting on a specific peace, there is no general tips that works every time. It depends on what you are going for. On the basic level you should familiar yourself with color theory so you can analyses what others are doing in their images or understand what's happening in a photograph so it can be reproduced.

>>95241478
Thanks, fixing it right now.
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>>95239634
yeah man you surpassed your own standard
Uhh just off the top of my head they look like they'd be named Deli, Brucks, and Pumpleton. More information about personality and setting would help.
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>>95239559
finally the wait's over.
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>>95239573
Oh this is cool. I'll have to think on the nature of gradients use to add highlights if I try something like this again.
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>>95240301
The whole thing is on pixiv for sure. Each chapter had to be broken into 2 parts because of the upload limit.

And I agree. DA is shit for comics. It's extremely frustrating. Of all the things they've implemented in the 11 or so years I've been using it I don't know why they haven't done a comic reader.
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>>95240301
If you're trying to read it on pixiv without an account, don't. I logged out to see what it was like and even I didn't want to bother trying to figure it out (but now i know, right?) Apparently DA Stash is accessible to the public so I just put the whole book for fownload there at >>95238536
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>>95242195
After doublechecking I found the rest in your illustrations tab, whilst the first chapter is under manga. Very weird. Can't fathom why pixiv won't let me stay at maxres either, so it's not like dA is the only lazy website.

You thought about entering the currently running shounen jump universal manga contest? Basically submit an oneshot in any language to have it judged and evaluated by some publishers at Shounen Jump, any language even.
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>>95242814
"Any language" had a bit of a brainfart there, only the supported languages. English is of course accepted. It will be automatically translated into JP by the MediBang staff for judging.
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>>95242814
I thought about it. However, I wouldn't attempt to enter something like that unless I had some intention of trying to win. And with my current job I absolutely cannot commit to serialization in Shounen Jump. Unless by that they mean they're just going to print the one-shot in Jump. Which would be cool (but not what I think of when I think serialization.) I definitely might try for a future one. I have a few ideas for One Shots that might appeal to the Jump crowd.
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>>95167647
I like the art style!
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>>95238507
that's beautiful anon, first thing I saved on hyw in almost a year.

Is it just a single picture or part of a comic?
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well I think this page is done
BRAZZERS
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>>95246360
>can now see the witch holding her at the top-right corner of the 2nd panel
>can see person being dragged off has dark hair and clearly different outfit
confusion has been alleviated. Good jorb.
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>>95246015
It's just a single picture.

The character is from a comic though.
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>>95238507

coolest image in the entire thread right here

do you have a link to your comic?
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Preview of a text+comic story I'm planning down the road. What do you guys think?

They didn’t think Ned Kelly was real, not at first.

The police were warned. People smelled the smoke, heard the hammer, saw the armor.

They didn’t believe them. A man made himself a homemade suit of armor like something out of King Arthur to protect himself while he robbed people in broad daylight? It was too strange. It was too fantastic. It was too fantastic for 1880. There were electric lights, steam ships, aetheric generators, and spirit cabinets in 1880. But Ned Kelly was too fantastic even for an increasingly fantastic world.

And then it happened. And when it happened and their bullets bounced off his armor like pebbles they said Ned Kelly was the Devil, or a bunyip, or a ghost. Those things were more believable than Ned Kelly and his armor.

And that is why we do it. People think the little boring patterns they run their lives by constitute reality. They run up against someone stronger than they are they act like the world’s crashing down. Someone tells them to get on the ground they scream for the planet-moving superheros to come save them. They will call you sir. They will cry. They will beg for their lives.

And all you are is a man with a little more power than them. All you are is a man in a tin can who did something unexpected.

But to them you’re the Devil himself.

That is why we do it.
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>>95248327
Note: "Kellyman" is an Australian term for anyone wearing powered armor be they superhero or supervillian. The term comes from the infamous Ned Kelly.
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>>95233802

Finished. The tree got better the second time I tried to draw it.
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>>95246015
>>95247903

Since you guys like this one, here's the wallpaper edition.

As far as the comic goes, as some anons have discovered for me in this thread, your best bet for reading it is to just download the comic itself rather than trying to read the whole thing on Deviantart which is shit for comics but IS the place the comic contest it was written for is hosted on.

Link: https://sta.sh/0fff8g5v0vx
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>people talk about artists and writers
>I'm happy doing both
>but I'm so hopeless at choice of framing that what I really need is a goddamned director
>someone to let me decide who appears and who says what, but tells me what angle to draw them at and how to break up the panels
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>>95249131
The best way to learn framing is to experiment.
Don't stop when you've finally gotten a page layout that sort of works, but sketch a few more ideas.
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>>95248361
all I can think of is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjNteHSCCSg
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>>95248588
>here's the wallpaper edition.
Nah, I already have Gustave Dore's version, from which you've stolen this copy/paste mess.
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>>95249262
That sounds like someone who isn't perpetually behind schedule
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Cramming all I can do during the weekend. 3 out of 5 pages done so far. Usually I take a break on the day I upload a part, but I'd like to get the Merchant and Pike comic finished as soon as possible and return to Witch's Hill.
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>>95249561
You can't steal what you've never seen before.
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>>95241026
yes. heres a page anyway.

>>95244349
thanks. this page is for (you)
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Adventures in character design and concept work continue.
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>>95249995
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>>95249950
Yeah, yeah. Have some dignity.
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>>95250369
The truth knows neither dignity nor shame.

Here's one more (You) for the road.
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>>95250592
>The truth knows neither dignity nor shame.
The truth is you trying to pass it like you never seen one of the most iconic images in culture. >>95239573
You could at least say it's "an homage", but you chose to be a liar.
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>>95249995
>>95250015
>prologue
oh that explains it, I skipped ahead and saw the ending it was beautiful and I know when it ends it ends
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>>95250839
How could it not be obvious that it's an homage, and why would that be a bad thing?
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where's the "how's your cartoon going" thread?
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>>95251304
I honestly wasn't basing that image on that picture.

I can tell you exactly how it happened. Once I realized the pattern brush meant that I could regulate the size of the paper dolls based on pen pressure, the first thing I did was start layering from small to large to create perspective.

In the process of doing that, the idea of the vortex just seemed obvious. And if you'd read the story, based on how it ends, you'd know why it was an obvious choice.

I'm not saying that to get you to read it. I'm saying that because whoever that artist is, he didn't invent the idea of a vortex. It's not a stretch that someone could come to that same conclusion on their own.

If it were an homage. I'd just say that. I don't have any problems referencing other art culture in my work. I don't believe it's a crime or anything like that.
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>>95251153

This is the prologue to the next part. If you're referencing the original story itself, then how THAT ends is sort of a beginning.

To be honest that is the 4th part of an ongoing story. But I don't have any expectation that people would try to read the whole thing. You'd only know about parts 1-3 if you were either involved in those tournaments, have been following me this whole time, or stumbled upon links to them in my gallery.

But let it suffice to say, this is the "prologue" to Part V. Although really it's just me messing with the designs in comic form. There will be a more appropriate prologue that actually has some narrative structure incoming soon.
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>>95250839
I've never seen that image before. It looks like it could have been an illustration in Dante's Inferno.

But just because something is popular or "iconic" doesn't mean everyone on earth has seen it.
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I uhh posted the first page of my webcomic a couple of days ago.. It's about a super hero that is also trying to be a wizard at the same time.

What do you think? Thoughts, crit? I got some friends also making comics at the same time as me if you're into that sorta thing

https://hex-unlimited.tumblr.com/
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>>95252648
there's few enough of those that they can piggyback on these threads
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>>95253548
this, shitposters fuck off
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>>95188069
What's this? I love the style
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>tfw want to create something amazing that'll be pop culture but your a brainlet and recently had to come to terms with the fact that my ideas are shit
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>>95253585
>https://hex-unlimited.tumblr.com/

I'll tell you the first page is pretty good and shows you have a decent grasp on paneling and viewing angles.

At least well enough to look at more of it.
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>>95253318
huh, grape minds think alike
>I don't have any expectation that people would try to read the whole thing.
dude if you put it on a proper 'click next to read next' website i will read every last thing you've ever made.
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>>95253770
My idea is shit too. That didn't stop me.
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>>95253791
You're not wrong.

It's honestly never occured to me to sit down and re-post all of my comics on one readable platform.

That's partially because I sucked until recently where I've reached a point where I don't hate my art as much.

And partially because a lot of these stories are for contests that I didn't win. So they don't have endings. I-IV are unique in that I've returned to that contest and was able to link an ongoing narrative even through all the defeat. But the last one that I finished (and won) would not be acceptable art or story-wise.

My second closest one isn't bad but I never wrote the ending for that one. Still haunts me to this day. Pic related. (And I can barely stand to look at it art-wise. Panelings not so bad though.
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>>95254115
Figures, all you people think you're shit. I guess that's how you get so good. I"ve always loved everything I've made (or rather if I don't love it, I don't finish or publish) and that's probably why it's so crappy.
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does anyone else ever line their characters up to try and find the tropes they're overusing? I did this instead of being useful today
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>>95255942
that's not a bad idea
though I have always been tragically aare of the redundancies in my characters (they're all too sensible)
hey accept my friend request on discord
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>>95255942
I do it sometimes, mostly because it's fun to check the tropes you give to your characters. If I notice too many similar character tropes I try to change it tho, I don't want my whole cast being the only sane men.
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GET YOUR ASS BACK UP THE FIRST ROLL THREAD!
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I wanted to be a shitfuck and give a character that is half-german half-japanese something italian.
Give me suggestions.
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>>95257308
what
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>>95258362
for a name you mean? is it a cute girl? name her Allesandra Arcobaleno
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>>95258392
>is it a cute girl?
yes

>for a name you mean?
Not really what I was looking for but it could work. I was about to look into the witness protection program to see if I could use it on something.
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>>95258365
Bump! I am bumping it with STYLE!
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>>95249979
>style
Hah! Very nice. Thanks!
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late night bump, but a bump with a question

Maybe it's a dumb thing to ask but is correct to say "this guy will kill me from the bile"? The context is the guy in question being really careless so the other one pretty much "sheds the bile". Thing is this seems to be a really common expression in my language but I can't find a way to check an English equivalent.
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>>95253864
same here, well, my idea isnt shit but I doubt it will become pop culture. just do your best!
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>>95259811
I'm not entirely sure what "sheds the bile" means in your language, but in English, "bile" refers to really angry and hateful words, usually paired with the verb "spewing"*.
So "I think I might drown from the bile this guy is spewing" or something similar might make sense if the guy in question is being really rude towards the person making the statement.

Could you explain what the expression in your language means? There might be a better translation than a direct one.

*"to spew" is when you cast something out in great amounts and getting it all over; used literally of vomit, lava, and geysers, used figuratively of insults, hate, etc.
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>>95249995


>>95259811
>>95260123
I second this anon, it really depends on context in your language for the individual words used.

"bile" can either be angry or hurtful words or literally the shit soup in your intestines.

What is the character being careless about?

If the character is concerned about getting into trouble the phrases we would use would be like:

This guy'll kill me for this shit.
This shit will get me killed.
I'm fucked.


It really hinges on how your using the words "shed" and "bile."
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>>95253318
>I honestly wasn't basing that image on that picture.
You are lying. And I'm saving your career. Stop doing this cheap bullshit while you are not famous. Later, it can lead to disaster.

>he didn't invent the idea of a vortex
Yeah, yeah, we heard this. "Everything is done already". I've seen previous threads.
He did invent this particular composition idea though. And composition idea is the thing you stolen. Not the "vortex idea", but particular composition idea. Dont try to swap this shit, people wont buy it, at least, not everyone.
You better start do your own shit, and not convince yourself with your mantra "everething is stolen, so I will steal too'.
Seriously, dude, thats low. And people are not dumb.

>I don't have any problems referencing other art culture in my work.
I can clearly see that. Basically, there is no "your" in "your work".
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>>95260234
Whats with bald guy's constantly changing face? Is he a shapeshifter too?
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How much edgy is too much edgy?
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>>95260829
>it is impossible for artists to come up with similar composition ideas idependently of each other

It'd be next to impossible to argue for this Statement convincingly.
If you look at art from a historic Point of view there's plenty of examples of artists coming up with similar ideas, composition and even concrete Images completely separated through time and space.
The Image in question is not specific enough to proof the "fake" as such by simple comparison. Maybe that anon has seen the Image before, maybe he hasn't. There's simply no way you can know.
Now, if that anon had come up with say the Image of a crime fighter detective dressed as a bat and a bird-themed sidekick it'd be fair to say that everything you said applies.
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>>95249754
4 out of 5 pages. Wew lads, I might as well confirm a weekend update. Thank god for the weekend, that's the only time I do have to work on my comic.
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is it a bad idea to practice actually drawing with construction by drawing inanimate objects to death and leave anatomy (and indeed living creatures) until i can do that to an acceptable standard?
i feel like some MC Escher television sets and chairs would be less embarrassing to have to look at.

I mean, the basics are still there right? Everything as a series of basic shapes lumped together in two dimensions.
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>>95262885
Don't waste time with questions, just draw. Don't waste time with books and courses either. They only get in the way of learning.
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>>95263167
this, keep drawing what you like to develop your style
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>>95263167
>>95263343
Nah, fuck that. Healthy artistic progress relies on a balance of focused study, working on more results-oriented stuff like drawing a comic, and just plain fucking around with a pencil for funsies.
Just drawing comics will make you plateau, just doing studies will leave you directionless and never starting your comic, and just fucking around 24/7 will give you tons of ideas but without the ability to express them.

>>95262885
In theory it's not a bad idea, but in practice it'll kill most people's motivation because it's so dull. Practice is great, but don't lose sight of the ideas you want to express with the tools you're learning.
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>>95260829
Anon you are so full of shit.
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>>95264152
Nah, fuck this, just draw what you want
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>>95260846
No. I'm just still trying to figure out how to draw his stupid fucking face.
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>>95260829
>there is no "your" in "your work".

You sound like that other anon making vague criticisms that you can't actually back up.

Anyone can say a work is derivative (in a way, all work is derivative) but if you're not just shit posting then for what you say to have any merit you'd have to be more specific than that.
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>>95258432
so I'm confused then, if not a name, what is "something italian" you want for her? an outfit? a job? a backstory?
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>>95249950
>>95253548
Regardless of whether you recall seeing that specific piece, the similarities are so apparent that you clearly pulled either from it or other works that have either homaged or reused it, subconsciously or not.

You just look like an ass claiming that you can't steal via cultural osmosis. It's not uncommon. An "Oh, my bad." or "I didn't mean to do that." would suffice, but instead you're acting as if what you have clearly done is impossible to do.
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>>95258455
oh, you meant the first page. yeh!
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>>95250592
This sounds like something a thieving faggot would say.
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>>95265704
Given that technically only one thing is in common, I think it's more than plausible it was a coincidence. True a vortex of flying things seems similar, but it doesn't have two people standing on a rock in the foreground, it has a guy, hands outstretched, in the midst of it (this itself is something we've seen before in other things, it's the common way to draw "oh man all this stuff i'm involved with is all around me" )
if he was on a rock, with the cutie shapeshifter, in the foreground, and there was some kind of glowy object in the center, then it would be too much to believe it was a coincidence.
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>>95266029
>responding to bait
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>tfw anxiety attack as you wonder why you're spending so much time on your comic at all when no one even reads it
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>>95266029
>It has to be exactly the same to be influenced by cultural osmosis
Are you fucking serious.

Next you'll tell me "Oh ANON, you big silly, this wasn't inspired by Terminator 2, the robot is being lowered into ICE WATER while giving the thumbs up at a slightly different angle and there's no little boy around!"

>>95266121
>"anything I disagree with is bait"
Again, I'm chiding his decisive "nuh uh u can't take from stuff you haven't directly seen." It's nonsense, and I wouldn't even be saying this if he had simply said something like "I didn't mean to do that." instead of pretending this was just impossible.
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>>95260123
>>95260234
I see, so it really changes a lot between languages.

In mine, the expressions of the bile are related to the organ/some liquid the liver makes and that gets done in excess when you get really angry, so we use the expression "derramar bilis/hacer bilis" (which kinda translates literally as "shed the bile/make bile") for when someone makes us really angry or stresses us a lot.
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>>95262522
When it gets cringe worthy and not in a funny way
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>>95266571
Cont. (sorry clicked post before adding the scene context)

So the context is pretty mcuh guy A is always reckless and throws himself into danger to save others, and guy B is always getting stressed and angry over it, with the last case being really extreme on how lucky guy A managed to survive. That's when the expression comes, because guy B complains about guy A stressing him too much to the point of dying.
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>>95265704
And you look like an enormous tool for getting so worked up over someone drawing "Person standing in whirlpool of objects", as if that's such a completely one in a billion concept that it is absolutely INCONCEIVABLE for anyone else to design a similar composition. Just look at the Dennis the Menace fiasco. Two artists in two completely separate parts of the world happened to have the same idea at around the same time to design a rascal young boy who's name snappily rhymes with "menace". According to your logic, coincidences are impossible and everything is an act of plagiarism.

Fuck off, man. Honestly.
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>>95266571
>>95266678
Oh, I see. A similar expression that works better in English would be B complaining about A giving him dangerously high blood pressure or putting him in danger of a heart attack.
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>>95266496
Just stop, Anon.
Giving (You) the benefit of the doubt, I get what you're trying to do but you chose the wrong example to cling to.
Had you given other examples of his work that were derivative that's another thing but you just latched onto this hilariously simple concept. If you continue this charade you're clearly baiting.
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>>95266738
>getting so worked up
Where?
I just butted into the conversation because what he's saying is dumb. People pull from sources they haven't actually seen plenty, there's nothing wrong with that. There's no need to act like you're immune to copying things second, third, fourth, etc-hand.

>Two people came up with a broad idea based on wordplay.
Yeah, that's a coincidence. Pretty different from using one of the most common and referenced compositions in modern art. Stargate did it. Shin Megami Tensei did it. There's so much media that does it that it's pretty much impossible not to get a secondhand version of it. That's why this is such a silly claim to make. It's like saying "No I wasn't influenced by the Pieta I just drew a person draped over someone's arms in the same fashion." Even if you've never seen the Pieta, you're likely to reference it. It's that ubiquitous.

>plagiarism
I thought I made it pretty clear both times I've posted so far that I'm criticizing what he said, not what he did. There's nothing wrong with references and influences in your art, especially to the classics. Pretending you came up with stuff this famous and often recycled in a void, however, is fucking ludicrous.
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>>95266929
My computer's on/off button shamelessly plagiarized that SAME composition! ((((they)))) must be stopped!
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>>95266920
Again, you're going "I don't agree so this is bait, drop the act bub!" instead of actually discussing things. And I think you're conflating my point with the rambling of the anon who started this garbage reply chain.

I'm not making some kind of point, or calling him derivative, or criticizing his work, or whatever the fuck else. I mean exactly what I said: "I didn't see it so I couldn't have pulled from it" is bull. We constantly pull from famous works, regardless of intent, and indirect influence is common. That's just part of making art.
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>>95267083
Ah, I see you've resorted to erecting a straw man instead of just saying you disagree and attacking whether a similarity exists rather than the actual point of contention. Really hope you aren't the artist.

Even humoring that, there's quite a bit more similarity in thousands of bodies making a circle leading directly to the center, where only whiteness remains, than a single line circle and one large line nearly bisecting it. You could argue that there was some influence there, but thats a matter of personal opinion. I don't think so, but what about you?
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>>95267083
Why is your computer upside down?
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>>95266862
Oh yeah that works well too, thanks anon!
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>>95265698
I'm not sure on what to settle yet, that's why I asked for suggestions in general.
A backstory, an education, a name, taste in food; as long as it's important for the character and I can meme the Axis in there.
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>>95267612
>Opera singer
>loves pasta, pizza or other clasically Italian food
>Enchanted by the Italian renaissance (or maybe the Roman empire) - could be art or architecture-focused
>Deeply Catholic
>Sicilian mob connections
>If it's a story where someone might wear a costume, maybe hers is inspired by the Venetian Carneval
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>>95267819
Thanks, man.
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>>95206459

finished another page, heres a video to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHpCR6YfCyc
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>>95266496
a better example here would be accusing something of being T2's ending just because it's a dramatic lowering into a vat whatsoever.
cultural osmosis is certainly a thing, but this painting is relatively obscure. it's not as if he's doing Pieta. everyone does Pieta and few know it's a reference
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/co I failed out of uni. Should I follow my dream of making comics or reroll?
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>>95154898
So I want to do a webcomic that's a fanfiction so I can mostly focus on practicing.

Good or bad idea?
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>>95269199
Depends. How many pages is it?
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>>95269222
The story itself is pretty long.
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>>95269199
It's ok I guess
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>>95267612
>as long as I can meme the Axis in there.
please stop
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>>95269371
Why?
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>>95269248
Yeah but how many pages? How long does it take you to draw a page? How many hundreds of hours are you going to have spent on it when it's finished?
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>>95268555
What uni?
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>>95269656
Not in the US. But I was studying bio.
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>>95269699
If you passed the math parts of your Courses you'll be fine.
But don't try to make a living with webcomics, it's imossible.
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is this tablet any good for drawing comics?
i just want a nice little tablet with screen display thats affordable. like under $100 affordable
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>>95270692
Kek
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>>95270692
Get a tablet specifically for drawing.
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>>95270753
nobody knows everything about everything, help me out guy
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>>95270692
Kek x2

Buy a wacom tablet that you can connect into your computer
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>>95270813
alright, anything speciffic? i feel like whatever gets the job done, so this seems viable, if it works like a computer. everybody says huion, but i want a screen i can draw on, not a pad for a separate computer
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Baking new bread for error 405, I mean hyw 405
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Bump limit reached and new bread was baked

>>95271144
>>95271144
>>95271144

Migrate whenever
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>>95270903
A: a tablet PC can't do what a Cintiq or similar can do - it lacks features like pressure sensitivity and tilt, so it's little better than just drawing with a mouse.

B: Whether it has a screen or not, you're gonna need to plug a proper art tablet into a pc - it's not a separate device, it's an input device like a mouse or keyboard.

C: You're not gonna find a proper tablet that lets you draw directly on a screen for less than several hundred dollars. The cheapest I found was $449, but I only spent a few minutes and maybe you can find an older model or one with a bit of mileage - I don't know about tablets with built-in screens, but the one I've got has worked near-flawlessly* for nearly a decade now.

D: A lot of people don't feel like drawing directly on a screen is that big of a deal; it just takes some getting used to. (personally, I really like that my hand never covers up the thing that I'm drawing.)

*it's got a little blind spot near the upper left from when I dropped it one time.
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>>95271200
it's not page 10 though
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Oh Janitor-chan, why you gotta be like dis.
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Hu, seems this is the second time we get hit by this? I wonder if this is a new jani on the clock.
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Well guess I will do the thread once I come back, since we are still at page 8 and I must go for an hour more or less. It should be enough time to reach page 9 or 10
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Don't prune us this time jani

>>95272906
>>95272906
>>95272906

Migrate asap




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