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Transformers Prime Megatron was pretty cool, I feel like he was more unhinged than others and was just a rutheless bastard
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>>95292830
Prime Meg was a incompetent, dumb retard and a bad leader. Starscream was better than him
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>>95292830
Frank Walkers modern Megatrons have bee great, I'd even say better than in G1.
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>Fantastic voice acting
>Great character designs
>Above average 3D animation for a TV show
>Shit plots
Prime and Aligned in general are a perfect exercise in wasted potential.
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>>95292830
He was on drugs the entire time. The ENTIRE run of the show.
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>>95294108
>Great character designs
Only the decepticons. The Autobots designs were Bayfomers tier
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Average episode:

>Ugh I hate this conflict, wish I had a normal life!
>DARK ENERGON
>Optimus, I hate these retarded children
>Optimus gives a boring speech in the most monotone delivery possible
>Miko says ''Wicked radical!''
>DARK ENERGON
>Optimus ends with another boring speech
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>>95293681
That's not too hard, G1 Megatron was one of the weaker 80s villains. The other G1 Decepticons were more interesting.
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Animated was better and I want to see you try to argue anything else
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>>95294365
Prime Soundwave was better than TFA's tho
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>>95293681
>>95294271
G1 Megatron was an frustrated angry jobber, but until re-watching the show recently I never realized quite how much Galvatron was a fucking perpetually screaming nutjob. I'm surprised Welker's voice survived Season 3.

I feel like Prime Megs was pretty good because he had the brooding barely contained rage and full flipped-out whackjob modes, and both worked.

>>95294365
Animated fags are the new Geewunners and I want to see you try to argue anything else.
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>>95294383
Well yeah. One was an actual part of the main cast and the other was a one-off gag villain.

>>95294416
>if you disagree with me it's because of nostalgia

You're the one who only likes Prime Meg because he's more in line with the original
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>>95294365
Damn right
>>95294383
Fuck no he wasnt. The worst thing about TFA Soundwave was that we never got enough of him. Prime's Soundwave was shit because he never talked, and the only thing he had was an ugly ass Laserbeak
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>>95294416
>Animated fags are the new Geewunners and I want to see you try to argue anything else.
Yeah because all those Primefags that believe Prime is the best and G1, Animated and BW are shit for little kids don't exist
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>>95293215
Starscream is better than nobody, he is literally the worst bot
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Best Decepticon in Prime was Knockout
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>I now know the meaning of oppression and have thus lost my taste for inflicting it

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
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>>95294365
All TF shows have their place, Animated was a more kid oriented series while Prime was clearly targeting a different demo

It doesn't have to be a fight, Transformers is vast, who in their right mind would limit themselves to one single continuity?

>>95294532
>Prime's Soundwave was shit because he never talked, and the only thing he had was an ugly ass Laserbeak

Prime Soundwave was shown to be a pretty top tier combatant on a couple of occasions though. Plus what does Soundwave ever even say? He's supposed to be quiet, only speaks when absolutely needed, Prime just took it to the next level which was an interesting take

Also IDW doesn't count, it may as well be fanfiction, TFs never act in character in that shit
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>>95294784
>All TF shows have their place,

except this
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>>95294708
Still waiting for the inevitable episode of RiD 2015 where Megatron shows up for an episode/arc/season finale.
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>>95294784
Im not saying Prime Soundwave wasnt strong within the show, but when compared to other incarnations he doesnt really stack up. Hes not supposed to be quiet, just emotionless. Losing the iconic, heartless voice and not having his little team of minions is a step down for me personally.
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>>95294784
>Who would limit themselves o a single cast?

By God, you're right!

>>95292830
Quick! Assemble a team of our favorite versions of our favorite Autobots and decepticons!
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>>95294781
Ah, I remember when Optimus got HUUUUGE.
I recall /co/'s reaction was rather funny.

However, if Prime suffered from anything, it was how every season was some new scavenger hunt, rife with one-ups-manship. Hell, Optimus got essentially the Cybertronian Excalibur, got to use it for one episode, and then Megs built his own out of DARK ENERGON, and destroyed it. Pretty fucking frustrating how the Autobots never got anything good. Except for June Darby. That was a definite advantage. A sexy advantage.
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>>95294151
>The Autobots designs were Bayfomers tier
You can actually recognize their shape beyond "metal blobs" so no.
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>>95292830
>I feel like he was more unhinged than others and was just a rutheless bastard
he was literally just Cybertron Megs for babbies
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>>95294708
This was stupid. He was possesed for like a day!
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>>95295095
I think my favorite thing about Animated was how Hasbro somehow broke the universe and actually managed to make near-perfect toys of Animated's impossible artstyle
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>>95295186
To be fair, he was controlled by transformers Satan, and a day or an eternity in hell, it still breaks people all the same so equivalent lore would go.

>>95295095
I feel like in a transformers series, maybe a scavenger hunt should be saved for a season two plot.

Season one is just big battles and more battles and the scavenger hunt come when Optimus and megs realize "fuck, we've been doing the same thing for eons and haven't gained an edge. Time to rethink this."
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>>95295159
>cybertron
>not for babies
Uh huh....bet you think Bakugan is "mature"
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>>95295264
Wrong Cybertron, you ding dong
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Why do they keep adding these dumb smelly humies no one likes?
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>>95295445
Because gen 1 did it and most showrunners feel the audience can't relate to robots alone. You know, never mind beastwars.

I just don't get why prime felt they needed THREE humans.

Jack was alright but I will admit, I don't think he would have had as much impackt without other humans to contrast with.
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>>95295445
I am going to say I'm in a minority but I liked Miko. She wised up quick that it wasn't a game once she faced actual stakes.

And her fight with Starscream was beautiful.
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>>95295445
Reminder that Ralph was waaay worse.
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>>95294880
>Quick! Assemble a team
Animated Megatron, Armada Starscream, Predaking, Nitro Zeus, Knockout, Overlord. They will save the universe from Optimus Crime and his master Unicron
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>>95295955
>Optimus crime
Fuck you.

Now I want a 1920's/30's mob world cybertron with the decepticons and Autobots both as competing contraband smugglers.
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What is the opinion on this Megatron?
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>>95296069
In and of himself, I like him.
But only when I let myself ignore Beast Wars entirely and just view BM as it's own thing.
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>>95294784
>Animated was a more kid oriented series

Only in art style. It had the more sophisticated writing.
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>>95294416
>I never realized quite how much Galvatron was a fucking perpetually screaming nutjob.
"Who disturbs my plasma bath?! ...My empire of ash?! My bastion of brimstone, reee?! My kingdom of desolation, nnah?! Did I ask you for deliverance? Nnah! DID I?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Ah, Cyclonus! How wonderful to see you again."
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>Pathfinder transforms by spreading her legs and folding them behind her head
You never told me GoBots was so lewd /co/.
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>>95296069
One of the more compelling and interesting Megatrons despite not actually being Megatron technically. Hammy but eventually very threatening in BW. He actually seemed more deadly in BM, but everyone hates BM generally so its hard to notice.
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>>95296069
Beast Wars was fine, here hes a stupid asshole.
>"Hey I'll conquer Cybertron, AND MAKE EVERYONE MINDLESS DRONES WHO DO NOTHING
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>>95292830
I want Megatron to be a good dad
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>Soundwave spoke only once in prime and had an uninspired altmode
Why
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>>95297196
Because it makes him cool that he's silent yet deadly
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>>95297211
>silent yet deadly
Maybe don't pick a combination of words that makes him sound like a fart.
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>>95297303
Kek
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>>95296980
> also my god complex demands I literally be a god now, yeeeeeessss.
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>>95297211
Sounwave's voice is one of the coolest things about him though
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>>95293215
Say to my faceplate, Starscream, not through database postings, see what happens.
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>>95295600
Agreed. Even before she matured, she wasn't too bad. A bit annoying, but meant well and helped inspire her bot Bulkhead.
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Out of the way, best Starscream coming through.
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>>95297683
No one likes your show, go back to fucking a 9 year old.
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>>95297683
You just reminded me the Unicron trilogy exists
Fuck you
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>>95295217

Agreed, pretty much all the animated toys were top tier.
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The greatest Megatron of all.
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>>95299997
What would his altmode be?
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>>95299997
Megabyte and Megatron trade places, what happens?

I'd be inclined to say both the Autobots and the Guardians would be fucked, because Megabyte is a fuckton more intelligent than most incarnations of the Autobots and Megatron is a hell of a lot more actively violent and would just blow off Bob's head at the earliest opportunity.
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>>95297211
>>95297303
>silent yet deadly
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SLa_33ktDQ8&app=m&persist_app=1
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>>95300333
>its a relic episode
>it a humans tag along even though they're told not to episode
>its a breakdown suffers episode
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>>95293215
>>95294670
Prime Starscream was legitimately a better leader than Prime Megatron and nearly defeated the Autobots if not for Megatron interfering.
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>>95295600
Honestly the only human character I hated was Raph because he was completely unbelievable.
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Shakespeare dino vegeta is top tier
I don't get how people say his death was one of the saddest in cartoons though.
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>>95300461
Raph was the least offensive. Miko was annoying with her on again off again accent and jack was a crybaby.
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>>95296035
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>>95298289
I can name three things I liked in the Unicron Trilogy...
The Minicon toys that are delightful to fiddle with.
Robot tits and NIPPLES (because Im a perv)
And that it ended....
Some of the toys were okay though... and the Starscream - Alexis thing gave Ratbat new art to draw so I guess its okay. In all honesty I didn't mind it but I didn't care for it either, its kind of a cluster fuck I actively ignore outside of...well the giant ass tub of minicons I have.
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>>95300419
Except for the fact that he didn't own up to nearly offing Megs which would have at least proved to his men he was honest. Got one of the Con's biggest and toughest warriors killed in a gangbang. And constantly abused his position with showboating and fakeouts. Megs might have used intimidation himself, but mostly with Starscream who needed to be put in his place since he'd otherwise take three step out of line.
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>>95294784
>Also IDW doesn't count, it may as well be fanfiction, TFs never act in character in that shit
Almost every incarnation of literally any character in this franchise acts unique in almost every new series. The only character who has been completely consistent in their characterization is Shockwave. Even Starscream detours from their G1 persona in the Unicron continuity.
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>>95298289
>>95301056
I haven't seen the Unicron shows. Anyone mind filling me in as to why they're so hated?
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>>95292830
>Transformers Prime
>Have a character called Predaking thats a dragon
>He wasn't voiced by David Kaye
How were they able to fuckup this badly /co/?
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>>95301831
Transformers and chuuni shit mix like toothpaste and orange juice.
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>>95301845
Kaye was already in the show.
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>>95301831
Its a literal cluster fuck... bad voicing... story feels like it got thrown in my parrots cage while he was throwing a tantrum...
Inconsistent as all fuck. some toys were literal bricks.. like you could actually build a house out of them.
Rampant early wave Gold Plastic Syndrome on figures with no gold plastic.

Megatron was nice then went shit south and lost all character development at all in exchange for becoming an angry emo teen who walked into school with a shotgun...
Literally rewrote its own history twice because they forgot their own script.
Energon had at least 6 mary sues.

14 year old human girl seducing a 50ft million year old robot jet with her tiny human boobs...
Giant robot lady nipples....
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>>95301976
>becoming an angry emo teen who walked into school with a shotgun...
Didn't he also do that in RiD2k2 where he literally just throws a tantrum and turns into Galvatron for no reason?
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Don't mind me just the best decepticon passing by
>>95294813
yes, that belongs in the trash
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>>95301976
See that sound pretty terrible, but
>Giant robot lady nipples
Now you're just making me conflicted.
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>>95301976
>14 year old human girl seducing a 50ft million year old robot jet with her tiny human boobs
For the love of god I don't know if this legit or not because I wouldn't put it below anime to pull some shit like this.
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>>95302020
forgot pic

Also Prime ratchet was top notch too
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>>95302045
Considering Armada before it had an 11 year old girl (who looked more like 13) basically getting all lovey-dovey with Starscream, are you really that surprised?
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>>95302063
Lovey-dovey I understand because people live for interspecies stuff nowadays but how did a tiny girl SEDUCE a robot. How did that happen?
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>>95302020
>>95302052
Prime arcee was cool too... But that's not saying much when how many times has arcee been a main or even regukarly occuring character?
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>>95302063
I was talking about Armada in that post...
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>>95301976
most of this is is wrong as fuck
>>95301831
Armada had a great story but SHIT production, Energon was shit all around. On the other hand, Cybertron was FUN AS ALL FUCK. It's not really a trilogy, Cybertron was thrown in after the fact.
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>>95302236
When did Alexis do anything with her tits? Most I recall was just her getting all buddy-buddy with Screamy and then acting like a distraught waifu when he got vaporized.
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>>95302236
Well that's weird then, because it didn't fucking happen in Armada. Or ever. Aside form Kiss Player probably.
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>>95302256
>Aside form Kiss Player probably.
>That time Optimus got a literal muffler job
I shudder every time.
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>>95294708
>runs off and just abandons all his followers
Prick.
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>>95302242
Not really thrown in, but awkwardly rewritten. Energon was the conclusion of the Armada story, with Cybertron being its own thing, but clumsily redubbed to bridge into Energon's story. I just wish they hadn't abandoned the 2D characters of Armada. While they weren't always animated that well outside of some fights, they at least felt like part of the scenes. Energon and Cybertron's 3D characters just looked awful and felt like they were floating through the backdrops.
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>>95292830
He's my favorite Megs.
>Was a gladiator that fought his way to glory
>Refuses to bow to any forces above his own, even Unicron who had to imprison his mind
>Took down an Insecticon one on one
>Made all of Team Prime look like a bitch
>First plan was dabbling with forces beyond his understanding to make goddamn zombies
>Both extremely manipulative and calculating on top of forward and powerful
>Had the best Megs death
>Frank Welker

It's a shame that the series was flawed. Their Megatron was god tier.
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>>95302291
>but clumsily redubbed to bridge into Energon's story.
Not really. Like, at all. The only link between Energon and Cybertron in the English dubs is the source of the black hole (Unicron's destruction) and some extra frames they added in the final episode. Everything else about it is stand alone and those two things that aren't are easily ignored or explained away.
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>>95295249
Pretty much this. As contrived as it may be, it at least makes sense that after being made someone's total bitch, he'd realize the error of his ways and not want to inflict more of that shit on others. I imagine if Hasbro hadn't cut the third season short, we might have gotten more time with kind-of-Galvatron and thus a more impactful disbanding of the Decepticons. Heck, we probably would have also had Jack and the other kids appear to help instead of being practically forgotten and left out of the loop about Optimus jumping into the core.
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>>95294708
That was so fucking stupid. That whole movie was stupid.
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>>95302325
That's what I said. Cybertron was its own story, but got redubbed to be another continuation.
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>>95302350
No you said it was CLUMSILY dubbed.
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>>95300419
It's disappointing that although this was one of the most comptetant Starscream's out there, they decided to frame him as a complete looser.
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>>95302368
Nigga, I literally said "With Cybertron being its own thing" in that post.
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>>95296250
What episode was this scene in?
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>>95302415
MY POINT OF CONTENTION IS YOUR USE OF THE WORD CLUMSILY YOU BRAINGENIUS
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>>95302390
Speaking of competent Starscreams and Cybertron, Cybertron Starscream was fucking great.
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>>95302390
Come on Anon, everyone enjoys Starscream abuse even if he's being competent.
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>>95302428
So just because I said it was clumsily edited, it negates me directly saying Cybertron was its own show? Are you fucking stupid?
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>>95302450
m8 I'm not arguing about that in the least and I am honestly both perplexed and concerned about how you think I am.
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>>95302449
>tfw there is not a single Starscream who isn't abused
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>>95302439
I want a starscream who starts either like G1 or Prime, and develops into a mix of Cybertron and IDW.
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>>95302467
You're acting like I said Cybertron was always part of the Armada continuity when I didn't at all.
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>>95302477
pic
>>95302482
...No. I'm not. I haven't been. You are legitimately confused about this discussion.
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>>95302513
No I'm not. I said Cybertron was its own thing and clumsily redubbed, and you're saying that wasn't the case at all.
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>>95302513
I COMPLETELY FORGOT THIS EXISTED.
Thanks for reminding me.
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So with all of those storytimes of PAIN that /co/ has done, like Girls, America, and countless others, how come no one has storytime of PAIN'd Kiss Players?
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>>95302569
This please.
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>>95302569
that's more /a/ than /co/
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>>95302449
Yeah but he has to be able to metaphorically get back up and try again. It's what makes the Starscream bullying fun, he's a bit like the Roadrunner's Coyote.

I don't think they handled his loyalty to Megs well. It happened too quickly and then nothing else changed.
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>>95302535
>Forgetting about best boy Starscream
>>95302526
Oh Jesus Christ, anon. As I've already explained to you, the point I disagreed with you about was Cybertron being CLUMSILY dubbed with connections to Energon. Not that it connections weren't made at all. They made connections, but they were unintrusive, easily ignorable and not in any sense clumsy.
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>>95302598

/co/ has done storytimes of fucking Devilman before. It doesn't get more Japanese than that.
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>>95302569
If I recall correctly, it's barely translated
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>>95302604
Except they were clumsy because they had to rewrite the original narrative and characterizations to fit Armada-Energon continuity.
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>>95302604
>forgetting my image
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>>95302636
But they DIDN'T.

FUCKING AGAIN, the only thing that changed was the origin of the black hole, and the frames of the Armada/Energon characters in the last episode.
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>>95302624
Can we get /a/ on the case? It's got cute lolis, that shound be enough to motivate them.
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>>95302663
Fuck off, if people want to consider it clumsy they fucking can. The entire "trilogy" was a mess from start to finish.
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>>95302680
If they want to consider what actually happened as clumsy that's all fine and good, but this person's basing that descriptor off of faulty information.
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>>95302706
There wasn't anything faulty about what I said. They shoehorned an unrelated third anime into the continuity of two others to form a "trilogy", nothing about that is misinformed in the least.
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>>95302637
For a filler series, BWII was full of a lot of great characters.
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>>95302439
Was he the most successful Starscream? I'm not too familiar with the comics.
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>>95292830
I want a series where there's a bunch of Megatrons running around and they're voiced by all the different voice actors he's had over the years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc_3JwRgbmk
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>>95302721
>There wasn't anything faulty about what I said.
Oh really? >>95302636
>they had to rewrite the original narrative
correct, to an extremely narrow degree
>and characterizations
completely wrong, nothing about the characterizations changed in the context of connecting Cybertron to Energon.
>>95302726
Most successful would probably IDW Starscream being as he's ruler of peacetime Cybertron, but Cybertron Starscream is up there.
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>>95302762
Soundwave, please stop posting about your fantasies.
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>>95302762
I'd like to see them do a series where Megs and Optimus are legit brothers. We know that Cybertronians can be "born" together, so it'd be an interesting dynamic where they're actually related, but staunchly opposed to one another.
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>>95302780
Whatever, shit was clumsy, end of fucking story.
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>>95302791
This brings up an interesting discussion.

Which characters would you like to see related,/tfg/?
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>>95302805
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq5ovHak0FE
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>>95302815
I could see the Dinobots being related through some experiment that makes their collective sparks something they share, which in turns makes their bonds as a small tribe deeper than anything the Autobots or Decepticons could understand. So if one were to die, it'd be agonizing for them on many levels more so than just emotional.
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>>95302824
Same to you, bub. Same to you.
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>>95302815
>The seekers
>Shockwave and Soundwave
Especially if they pull the same characterization IDW has given them where Soundwave is pure emotion and passion while Shockwave is all cold logic.
>Prowl and all those not-Prowl's
>Drift and Windblade.
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>>95302862
m8 i was making fun of your response, not making a genuine one of my own
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>>95302913
Whatever. You're being incredibly anal about me saying it was clumsy. Just fucking let it go already, god fucking damn.
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>>95302913
>>95302931
So stop replying to each other and post your favorite characters instead.

Then argue about which one is better
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Who of the three main Decepticon lackeys would be the most effective leader?
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>>95297683
agreed.
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Has Grimlock had the least deviation in character design throughout all the series?
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OTHER DECEPTICONS INFERIOR
SOUNDWAVE SUPERIOR
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>>95295095
>Except for June Darby. That was a definite advantage
Daily reminder that we will never get the doctor nurse pairing we deserve :(
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Does anyone think that Knock Out was host of the cybertronian equivalent of Queer eye for the straight guy?
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>>95301913
All the more better reason to use him, there's no rule saying one VA per character per show. If there was, Tara Strong's resume would be 1/100th the size it is now
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>>95303999
>Not Arcee/Jack

The fact that Arcee always made me think of the Boss from MGS3 made her saying Jack ever more boner inducing.
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>>95300179
We're haulin' Data Cola!
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>>95304066
>War is over
>Cybertron restored
>Knockout makes career as Reality TV Fashion Celeb
>You may know him from shows like Queer Optic for the Straight Bot, Pimp my Alt-Mode, Vos' Next Top Model and Knockout's Literal Drag Race
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>>95302052
But... But I love both. How can I choose?
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>>95304216
>I love both
>How can I choose?
Have I got the solution for you
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>>95303989
Affirmative.
This is a fact.
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>>95304191
Man, Knockout is so great.
I'm kind of sad that he's only prominent in the aligned universe so far. Really hoping he becomes a reoccurring character at first though I wonder how his design would fare in less stylized works.
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>>95304411
Isn't he in the comics?
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>>95304434
Yeah but as a total side character.
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>>95304411
>I wonder how his design would fare in less stylized works
He'd still be the sexiest bot regardless of the artstyle.
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LOST LIGHT JUST BROUGHT BACK TWO BLASTS FROM THE PAST.

I was wondering what the hell happened to that mad man. Wasn't he in Garrus 9?
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>>95305089
If you mean flame, yes, they literally say that
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>>95302815
Probably already done, but I had idea of Primus and Unicron being brothers who once got along fairly well and travelled the universe together to make sense of it all.

Unfortunately, both drew some radically differing conclusions away from their experiences.

>>95303999
>>95304151
This is a terrible shame either way you cut it. Though I also would have also enjoyed a pure, chivalric romance between June and Optimus

>>95302331
To be kind of fair, what would the Prime humans have done in the final season, even if new plots were added-

>Airachanid escapes cybertron's moon
>Jack, arcee, and miko basically become vampire hunters for an episode

Fuck!
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I never read the comics but Prime Soundwave is the only version that had any memorable moments among the shows.
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>>95306349
>Not liking Prime vs Soundwave rock battle
Prime plebs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS3zuZvwvPk
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>>95305089

STORY TIME THAT SHIT
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>>95306349
>the only version that had any memorable moments among the shows.
You fucking liar there's this https://youtu.be/B2xW1BqeZgM
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>>95296069
Why does Megatron look like Emperor Zurg
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>>95301913
Yeah as a random mook bug that gets squashed in his only episode. I wished Prime had its own version of Lugnut
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>>95307990
>I wished Prime had its own version of Lugnut
Fuck no. They ruined Bulkhead. TFA characters were too good for Prime.
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>>95307990
Wasn't Breakdown supposed to be Lugnut?
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My favorite TFP Megatron scene is when he says "I will never underestimate you again..." to the Autobots then he beats them and lets they lay around instead of killing them while waiting minutes for the other autobot to come thru the portal.

Great writing, very mature, totally worth killing Cliffjumper.
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>>95308111

No, his best moment is finding out where the Autobots are hiding then sending two measly vehicons that get murdered easily everytime to go fight Arcee and then DARING to look mad when said vehicons failed to kill one autobot. Again.
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>>95308111
>>95308141
>being this wrong
His best moment was that time when he saved Optimus from Starscream. What a great leader.
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>>95308177

"MY GREATEST MISTAKE STARSCREAM?! HERE'S ONE I'LL NEVER COMMIT AGAIN!!"

grabs Starscream surely to execute him and show he MEANS BUSINESS.

no

wait

he just beats him up and lets him be around. again. ultimately leads to Starscream ruining his plans. again.
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>>95308141
remember when two vehicons were enough of a threat for Arcee to try and hide and took 3 autobots to barely even take them down during the pilot episodes?

ya me either but I guess Megatron did
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>>95306399
Soundwave rocks
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>>95308205

Remember when one insecticon completely wrecks Arcee then 4 episodes later she can take multiple down just by bouncing on their head in bike mode. Remember the dramatic pause for when Megatron recruits an army of insecticons next time we see them they're dropping like vehicons.
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>>95294708
He spent countless years trying to summon Transformers Satan and then when he did he realized the guy was a fucking DIIIIIIIIICK. Megatron could actually show compassion where Unicron was just like 'FUCK YOU SLAVE, GIMME COOKIES'.

It broke him seeing his idol more or less the literally and figuratively biggest asshole in the galaxy.
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>Are you telling me that manlet stoner is a Megatron?
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>>95308314

He did? The fucking show acts like Megatron is as surprised as everyone that Unicron is Earth, then acts like it was his plan all along.
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Why did the kids use flip phones instead of smart phones?
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>>95308419
Flip phones are more popular in japan
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>>95308419

Cartoon made by old men.
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>>95308419
Smartphones are unironically the devil. Flipphones were a lesser devil.
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>>95308096
Orginial guy here: Yeah he was, but was changed to Breakdown because the writers and toy people wanted to show off the car based 'cons. Breakdown was one of the better decepticons on the show.
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>>95308419
It's all the rage in that universe
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>>95302421
Five Faces of Darkness pt.2
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>>95308419
>>95308432
It wasn't until LAST YEAR that japan had more people on smartphones than flip phones.
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>>95308432
but jack and raf use flip phones too
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>>95296240

What sophisticated writing did TFA have, pray tell?

I keep seeing all this shit about it being MORALLY GREY then I see the show and the GREYNESS is "oh one of the autobots is a jock asshole that gets show up every episode and like the good guys are actualy RACIST because robots that interact with gigantic organic spider monsters are afraid of non-robots!"

The actual show was a fucking mess. Episodes about how you shouldn't bend the rules that has no relation to any of the characters involved and gets ignored by all involved parties anyway, episode where the drama is "Prowl stops behaving like a sane fucking being just because he has some upgrades, lets ignore the fact that the autobots OBJECTIVELY need upgrades and WOULD DO A MUCH BETTER WORK IN FIELD if they use the EMP generator on the decepticons" and more.

It was just another badly written cartoon that gets a pass cuz g1 references.
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Remember when she was close to getting blacked but then they killed that ship within the same episode

Remember when she got wet as fucking meeting optimus?

Why didn't anyone in the show want to put their robo or black dick in her?
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Only ever watched Beast Wars and Armada as a kid( Beast Wars got a revisit a couple years back) what series are worth watching?
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>>95308563
Fowler and Optimus remembered she had a kid already and both feel for the "my wife's son" meme.
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>>95308584
G1, BW, R.I.D. (the 2001 one), Cybertron, Animated, Prime (it flip flops between shitty and great as it goes on, but the first season is solid), Rescue Bots, RID2015
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>>95308524
Wow. You are trying really hard.
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>>95308619
oh and BWII.
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>>95308628

That's where it ends? No counter argument? No justification for bad writing?

Then I can safely assume it was really crap and it was cancelled early deservedly?
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>>95308652
>No justification for bad writing
No because there isn't bad writing.
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>>95308652
Is this your first time writing b8 or something? We can all give you some pointers if you're fishing for (you)s anon, but you really should try harder.
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>>95308652

I'm sorry, I just don't care enough to argue against people that watch toy commercial cartoons and take them seriously. It's the same reason Prime for me is boring pretentious bullshit and TFA is fun even if it's writing is retarded too.
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>>95308684
>>95308687

I gave clear pointers to badly plotted episodes and contrived character motivation, and that's not getting into all other problems like weak animation and action.

This is the same fucking show that has the entire series finale set around the fact that the entire city of detroit apparently only has like 30 people that can all hid in one building in the middle of the town.
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>>95308735
First pointer is to not space your post out like a redditor. Want more?
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>>95308764

Nah, your deflection already tells me all I need to know about how deep your points are going to be. And the kind of person that would defend TFA in first place.
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>>95308799
Second pointer is to make sure to tie it tightly, you don't want the embarrassment of kicking out the chair and hitting the ground. This should be the last pointer you need, if done correctly.
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>>95308735
>I gave clear pointers to badly plotted episodes
You gave us nothing

>weak action
Your baits are weak
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>>95308819

"Kill urself cuz you muster the basic thought to see a cartoon is shit" is about when you should realize mom and dad did a baaaaad job.
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>>95308619
Ah so all of it? Or did you leave one out as an inside joke?
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>>95308843
Look at his posts, he writes like he's been here a week. I'm embarrassed for him since he seems to lack the sense to feel shame himself.
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>>95308862
Sorry, did you say to post more Animated?
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>>95308917

Go ahead, it's all you'll have left now that is dead and all Derrick's attempts of raising interest thru twitter shittery failed.
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>>95308963
>this angry
'GO AHEAD I DON'T EVEN CARE YOUR SHOW IS STUPID SHUT UP'
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>>95308881

He's being retarded. Just watch Beast Wars, TFA and Prime. The rest ranges from horrible to bland.
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>>95308985

"I'm the one who went on a tangent when shown that my kid's cartoon was just that so YOU'RE mad!"
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>>95308917
DID SOMEONE SAY POST MORE ANIMATED!?
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>>95308881
I left out Headmasters, Super God Masterforce, Victory, Zone, Beast Wars Neo, Beast Machines, Playskool Go-Bots, Armada, Energon, Go!, and Combiner Wars. Some because they're bad and some because I haven't seen them yet and haven't formed an opinion.
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>>95308524
>>95308584
G1, Animated, Prime, Rescue Bots if you like "comfy" and don't mind something obviously aimed at a younger demographic than usual (no Decepticon fighting or anything particularly dramatic, just bots in disguise helping people
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>>95309028
>it's for KIDS!
The absolute state of your posts, lmaoing at your life
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>>95309078
THIS ENTIRE FRANCHISE IS FOR FUCKIGN KIDS I CNA'T BREATHE
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>>95309073

Prime is over and everybody hates RID, you can stop pretending you like Rescue Bots just to shit on the other shows.
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>>95309148
Not that anon but I love RID2015 and Rescue Bots is pretty widely liked.
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>>95309078

Not saying being for kids is a bad thing, saying the guy that said it had sophisticated writing at best has low standards at worst is an actual mouthbreather.
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>>95309148
I didn't mention RID

>Prime is over
So? Have you never watched a cartoon series that was over before? Ever heard of reruns? It's kind of a popular concept

>you can stop pretending you like Rescue Bots just to shit on the other shows.
There's nothing wrong with Rescue Bots, assuming you are capable of enjoying something that isn't all about MUH AKSHUN 24/7 like some kind of perpetually prepubescent edgelord who collects Katanas
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>>95309182

Enjoy having bad taste I suppose. Let's hope that anon fares better in life.
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>>95309201
That was was saying that animated had sophisticated writing compared to Prime and he was right.
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>>95309265
That guy*
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>>95309201
Not the guy who was arguing that point, but myself I consider plenty of just-competent cartoons to have good writing, compared to the shit I grew up watching. If an episode can keep me interested enough in the outcome to keep watching and maybe get a laugh or two, it's doing okay in my book, and Animated was more than just a little fun to watch through when it aired, at least for me. I dropped Prime after trying to get into it, for what that's worth.
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>>95309265

Hardly. I recall Prime being retarded enough to have a character forget the lesson they learned 2 episodes ago and go running for revenge, in the same vein I recall TFA Bumblebee forgetting his exact lesson about 4 times.

They were both awfully sloppy, at best you can argue TFA can get away with it easier because it had a sillier tone and thus a refuge in comedy but that doesn't make it more sophisticated, it makes it more genuine at best.
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>>95309370
TFA Bumblebee role was being retarded. Even Bulkhead got tired of his shit.
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>>95309370
I think the main thing about the writing isn't to do with how deep sophisticated and dark it was but more that when comparing the two, Prime had way more wasted potential than Animated and basically kept shooting itself with every attempt to keep the status quo despite half the plot being the acquisition of game changing items.

Animated for the most part wasn't perfect and practically everything people wanted more out of it could be summed up with that image of season 4's episode outline, but even then most things were wrapped up and the conclusion fairly satisfying.

Prime tho had it all over the fucking board from the very first season, plotlines dropped left and right, characters killed the very episode they were introduced, "WE HAVE THIS STICK THAT CAN IMMOBOLISE PEOPLE" "ok Ratchet stick it on the shelf till the incredibly unsatisfying tv movie comes out".
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>>95308563
If she was a bit taller I think Optimus would have plowed that shit like a snowy road in a blizzard..
there is a fuckton of fan art and fiction of them... and trust me only 30% is SFW.
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>>95312182
>there is a fuckton of fan art and fiction of them
would you happen to know directions to these collections good anon?
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>>95310294
HOW DARE YOU POST THIS.
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>>95312326
June Darby on any of the Rule 34 sites... deviantart as well if you feel like it.
Fanfiction.net and adultfanfiction have fics,

a good old google search can bring up even more possibilities.
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>>95312949
Is this a cursed image?
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>>95306349
>>95306399
>>95307290
And this is why people say Prime is boring and lame. The Prime scene feels so empty and soulless.
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>>95314047
people with pleb taste*
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The generation wars in these threads are worse than the generation wars for Pokemon.
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>>95314270
It could be worse. At least the autistic Beastfags aren't here.
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>>95301845
Predaking's voice was sexy though.
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>>95304082
The guy who played PredaKing was just fine
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>>95308027
PrimeBulk was just as good
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>>95308419
Weren't the things just starting to become the preferred phone style when Prime dropped?
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>>95314680
Stop please
I'll have nightmares for weeks
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>Transformers Prime has a race of dragons
>Calls them Predacons
>Show actually has Terrorcons
>They're just regular bots turned into zombies

Why do the Terrorcons get no love?
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>>95308419

to be fair this was 2009 when they made the show, smartphones only got big during the course of the series's run and they live in the bum fuck of nowhere so....
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>>95314753
They got toys in Prime and are getting toys in the next toyline.
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>prime Starscream's design will never be used again
>Knockout will never show up in anything that isn't a shitty comic
>they won't have Soundwave display stuff on his visor anymore a la daft punk
>where in the world is Predaking
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>>95314753
Prime HAD Terrorcons, genius.
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>>95314836
>where in the world is Predaking
In the RID2015 comics, Earth. He brought along Starscream's arm as a chew toy.
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>>95314813
That's cool, but man, they really couldn't find a way to hide those robot hands?
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>>95314869
Yeah but they were renamed as "Predacons", which never made much sense to me
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>>95314804
2010, actually. But you're right, the phones were still on the rise at the time, hence why nobody had them (and the fact that it was likely still whatever year in-universe the show had started in when it concluded). Even then, flip phones around that time were getting fairly sophisticated, even if they lacked the bells and whistles of smart phones. I can only imagine what a reboot of something like Code Lyoko would be like since they relied on their phones a great deal during the XANA attacks.
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>>95314836
Knockout will probably just show up when they reboot again now that people care about the name.
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>>95314813
Except that Hun-Grrr is shit and everything is ruined.
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>>95314890
holy shit is starscream dead
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>>95314939
It did for the show; Terrorcons were Cybertronians mutated into zombielike husks by Dark Energon, while Predacons were the various beastial Cybertronian lifeforms. Interestingly, they were distinct from Dinobots, as Bulkhead points out. Of course, Prime was meant to be part of the continuity for the two Cybertron games, though it's clear shit got messed up in translation with the teams handling the lore since the games and Prime contradicted one another a fair bit.
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>>95315012
No he's alive and still a huge bitch
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>>95315012
Nope. He managed to bumble his way into a stockpile of weapons that killed the two retard predacons, reformatted himself into something along the lines of his G1/Armada self, then tried to get revengeance on Megs for breaking his heart.
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>>95315045
NOTICE ME, SEMPAITRON! LOVE ME, DAMMIT!
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>>95315045
>armada
No offense but he should have stayed dead
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>>95314944

well it came out in 2010 but they started production in 2009.
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>>95315018
>though it's clear shit got messed up in translation with the teams handling the lore since the games and Prime contradicted one another a fair bit.
Actually the show team didn't give two shits about continuity while the game team had to work around them for FoC.
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>>95302027
I have THE weirdest boner right now. Those boobies should be more...like actual plate.
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>>95315018
It's now deliberately stated, officially released canon that the games, novels, and shows take place in different universes.
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>>95315096
1) That anon is wrong about being like Armada
2) You took it as truth without even checking if it was actually true, and then posted an overwrought reaction to it.
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>>95315012
>>95315045
>>95315055
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z2oJCQ7h-A
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>>95315278
Except he was like his G1 and Armada incarnations in terms of appearance.
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>>95315238
That's freaking depressing.
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>>95315322
????
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>>95315316
>minicons are back

Ugh, I forgot about that
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>>95315405
One of the main characters is a Mini-Con, how'd you forget about it?
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>>95315322
I think you're confusing Armada Starscream with something else.
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>>95315316
I FUCKING SAID NOTICE ME, TRONKUN
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>>95315385
oh wow that's a real bad look, Knockout would fucking die the moment he saw him
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>>95315385
It is similar in looks. Christ, what is it with you people and harmless comparisons?

>>95315436
I'm not confusing anything. I'm not saying he had the same personality or anything like that.
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>>95315420
I haven't thought about that show since like the first few airings of it to be honest, I thought it was over already desu and that they were just putting out some new figures anyway
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>>95315492
m8, no one is seeing the Armada design similarities you're apparently seeing. Instead of going "yeah-huh there are!", actually TELL US what they are so we can understand your position.

This isn't a matter of the similarities not being enough to count, it's a matter of them not being there at all, as far as everyone else is concerned or can perceive.
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>>95315491
The design isn't too bad, but the animation on it is just meh. Despite being made well over a decade after the three anime shows, RiD2k15 barely makes the bots animate better even though they've at least got a more pleasing coloration going on than the photoshopped toys the bots had in Energon and Cyberton.
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>>95315573
The fucking head shape for one, obviously. Christ, I said G1 AND Armada, not just the latter one.
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>>95315625
Yeah, still not seeing anything specifically Armadaish about him.
>Christ, I said G1 AND Armada, not just the latter one.
Nobody was claiming you were saying otherwise. Chill out.
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>>95308419
The model of phone that was modeled on (BlackBerry Pearl 8220) came out in late 2008, so it was up to date at the time.
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>>95308419
>that face
She was probably taking nudes of herself and sending them to Jack and other boys
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>>95293215
Nice try, Starscream.
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>>95315316
>Starscream was hoping for a chance to exposit for villainous boasting
>That "dicks, dicks everywhere" pose with bee
>Bee getting in a half decent snark over starscream being unworth of the darkstar saber

RiB2015 does have some good points.
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>>95294781
Wheeljack as an active, slick fighter just feels wrong. He'll always be the science nerdy autobot to me.
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>>95315206
>Those boobies should be more...like actual plate.
No, she has two Buoyant Inflatable Globular Trial Energon Temporary Storage units (or BIGTETS) fitted Anon.
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>>95317367
It's weird despite him being in G1 so much he's hardly been in anything else.
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>TF Prime was unpopular enough to get cancelled with a short 13 ep season and 1 film
>Make another TF cartoon
>Put it in the same continuity as the prime one
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>>95318257
Because they still wanted to try for aligned universe stuff but with all the issues mentioned, such as showrunners and overseers being at odds, it fell apart anyway and Hasbro is afraid to invest in transformers again.

Between the behind-the-scenes issues with prime, plus the end of the bay films, I fear transformers is basically doomed to fall wayside for ten to twenty years before Hasbro tries anything grand with it again.
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>>95318257
I don't think unpopularity with the (target) audience was Prime's problem, see >>95315238 for a fucking list of reasons it was canned.
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>>95315238
Holy shit
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>>95318337
>end of the Bay films
What? They're literally making a Transformers cinematic universe. Transformers has had a show on the air since it's very inception practically, it will always have something out there to sell toys, how good it is will also always vary just like it always has as they try to shoot for different demographics all the time

Hell, aren't they ALREADY planning a new cartoon?
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>>95318459
I actually thought the films were ending with the last knight, but, yes, they are preparing Cyberverse.
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>>95318668
>I actually thought the films were ending with the last knight

They're working on a prequel, a sequel, and a solo Bumblebee movie as we speak m8
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>>95315278
i stand on my previous point
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>>95318787
While sure you can fault that anon for no knowing about the other projects, personally I think his view is understandable. The Last Knight was heavily marketed as the "last chapter".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7183a495jg

And that was before The Last Knight didn't exactly slay at the box office. So yeah if someone doesn't frequent these threads or any other TF fanbase I can forgive someone being confused.
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>>95315055
I'm still not convinced the other two Predacons are actually dead, though reading about the mess TFP and Beast Hunters I can at least accept it as an FU to the whole matter. Not that I have any love lost for those two chucklefucks. Clearly Shockwave and Starscream tried to clone them to be stupid as rocks so they'd be easier to control. It's more that now more than ever they actually kind of fit in since RID goes nuts with the never-before-seen variations of Cybertronian life.
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Who beats up who? I know BW Megs would be like the size of a small child to any of the others, but I'm sure he could scheme his way into relevancy somehow
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>>95320487
Wanna bet?
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>>95320499
The one snorted all the Dark Energon
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>>95320499
I don't know about comic Megs but pretty sure TFA Megs can beat everyone else. Only Armada and Car Robots' can give him a decent fight.
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>>95320647
From the look of things that could be ANY ONE OF THEM!!!!!
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>>95315405
The minicons in RiD aren't as bad as the previous shows made them out to be.
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>>95320907
That pic makes Fixit look like he has giant tits and (nearly) everyone wants a piece of that action.
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>>95321002
Kek, was just about to post the exact same thing.
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>>95320734
Drugs are for pussies like Prime Megs
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>>95320709
I loved that, but do you think we overestimate tfa Meg's a little?

I mean he was a big bad villain but in upfront fights he tended to duke it out with a space bridge crew than any sort of Autobots soldiers.

Kind of like how starscream in tfa could shrug off about anything the Autobots could do but that was because none of them are dedicated fighters. Even prime flunked out, albeit on a technicality.
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>>95320907
The super awesome macguffin minicon power-up squad was fairly annoying, but that's just my opinion. At least minicon power-ups are a callback.
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>>95321002
>everyone wants a piece of that action.
Requires a strong bot to handle Fixit.
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>>95321063
Yeah, real Megatrons just get drunk after getting high on super power cores, not extra-purple energon. Then they make horrible life decisions like getting a sex change and telling Optimus to check his privilege.
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>>95320709
Prime Megs wasn't much of a slouch, either. Nigga took on Insecticons all by himself.
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>>95320709
tfa Megs was a very slow and somewhat clumsy fighter, not to say hes weak or a bad fighter, but if there is a quicker Megs who is equal in strength hes gonna get his ass beat

my money's on crazy prime Megs
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Pitch you ideas for the next reboot
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>>95321144
This was able to keep fighting after being nuked by Omega Supreme Starscream. He was a fucking monster

>>95321294
>>95321346
There is no way Prime Megs could hurt TFA'
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>>95321400
>There is no way Prime Megs could hurt TFA'
Nah man, they'd be an excellent match for one another.
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>>95321400
>There is no way Prime Megs could hurt TFA'
Dude spent most of his time as an chair. A chair that smelled like curry farts, and that smell extended to when he finally got the rest of his body back.

Yes, anon, you are right that nobody could hurt him because he has already been hurt too much...by life.
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>>95321354
A western take on Transformers Victory. Make it less brave and something more along Star Wars since it's set far in the future where humanity and Transformers have been friends for hundred of years already and instead they have to deal with space bullshit and a new intergalactic tyrant going by the name of Deathsaurus.
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>>95321346
>tfa Megs was a very slow and somewhat clumsy fighter
He was not. Animated had choppy animation. That was the problem

>>95321526
Animated power levels were high, anon. It was almost a fucking anime.
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>>95321400
Fair enough.

I do wonder if prime Meg's though might have an advantage purely by inducing dark energon sickness in other megs
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I don't know about you guys, but I really liked The War For Cybertron or Fall of Cybertron Megatrons.
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>>95321772
Wasn't that just Aligned/Prime Megs?
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>>95321346
>if there is a quicker Megs who is equal in strength
>who is equal in strength
There isn't none
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>>95321701
>He was not. Animated had choppy animation. That was the problem
You dont get to excuse it like that just like no one give Prime any free passes.
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>>95321841
>imolying aligned is anything more than a marketing ploy
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>>95321967
Anon, the animation was the problem. Compare this good looking wemb to the previous, choppy one. There is a big difference. And Prime doesn't get "free passes" because of its writing.
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>>95301778
That's funny to me, man, because Shockwave was the one character who had two distinctly different takes on him waaay back in 1984.

In the cartoon, he was content with running Cybertron off-screen, even when Megatron's plans actively endangered Cybertron like in The Ultimate Doom.

In the comics, he had decided that logically he would make a better leader than Megatron, and spent most of the series scheming to eliminate him or Starscream or Scorponok or whomever.
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>>95322222
>another get for Shockwave
Can he be stopped?
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>>95322222
>these numbers
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>>95322089
This is an opinions war so I'm probably better off not bothering adding my two cents, but what the hell, what else is 4chan for it not arguments? I never really watched Animated when it came out, rather I marathoned it about six years ago. The story didn't impress me at all, in fact I couldn't really see why people made such a fuss out of how great it was beyond, of course, that people just have different tastes. You clearly love the writing. I wasn't really impressed by the stories. Some people love the homages, others detest it. Some people even like Bayverse for the stories. Takes all kinds.

As far as that good looking webm goes, that looks less like a transformation sequence than Megatron undergoing Morphin' Time.
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>>95322222
The thing I loved most about G1 Shockwave was that he wasn't just content to run Cybertron, he was content to wait, for millions of years, because surely at any moment Megatron will be back with a huge score of energon. Yep, any millennia now. Just you wait... Could be - RIGHT NOW. No, wait, fuck, that was just more female Autobots. SHIT.
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>>95322401
>I couldn't really see why people made such a fuss out of how great it was beyond, of course, that people just have different tastes
It was entertaining. When something is entertaining people tend to ignore its defects. But when something isn't is slow and repetitive (like Prime) people tend notice its defects. This is why Prime gets so much shit. It was boring compared to the regular TF cartoon.

>that looks less like a transformation sequence than Megatron undergoing Morphin' Time.
Well yeah. Animated was very anime-like
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>>95322529
>when something isn't is slow
Fucking mobileposting
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>>95322401
I continue to believe the overriding factor in the series wars is simple nostalgia. We have people here now who grew up with Beast Wars (they're very noticeable) but also Animated and now even Prime. And still a few of us old fucks around who grew up with G1.

You can try and look at this shit objectively and see the flaws and merits of any Transformers series - Most of them have plenty of both to pick at. But everybody still has a show that's special to them even if it wasn't very good, usually because it was the show that got them into the franchise in the first place. And I can't really fault anyone for that.
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>>95322222
HOW DO SHOCKWAVE ANONS KEEP DOING IT?
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>>95322698
It's only logical.
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>>95322222
>In the comics, he had decided that logically he would make a better leader than Megatron
He honestly could if it weren't for the Decepticons being well...Decepticons. Shockwave doesn't have the charisma to keep his troops loyal and sure he could 4D chess his way into crushing any sort of treason but he couldn't really force anyone to stay there either. I imagine a lot of Decepticons would just say "Fuck this" and leave.
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>>95322529
At the time it aired TFP was pretty much fueling TFG. Threads would die down during hiatus and when it left the air TFG started the slow decline until, frankly, we don't really have TFG anymore even if threads have popped up now and then. We've been getting some steady threads in /co/ for a bit now, though most never make it to autosage.

You're clearly missing your own point. Animated was interesting...to you. Thus you, personally, tend to ignore the defects. I personally found TFP more entertaining, but I certainly never gave it a pass even at the height of its popularity on TFG. Clip shows are still bullshit even if it did give us Window Optimus and the show had a lot of missed opportunities that, frankly, were less due to problems with the writing and more to do with the budget constraints. Breakdown died and Airachnid dropped in stasis because it was difficult to pay for their VAs.

Hell, it could be argued that Animated was never all that interesting but gets bonus points for nostalgia. Both nostalgia over all of the references within the show and nostalgia for people who remember it as a show they liked back in the day but which really isn't worth as much smoke as they're blowing up its tailpipe.

Or maybe not. What matters to you is that it matters to you, which is fine, just dandy, but keep in mind that doesn't make your opinions facts that everyone should agree with or they're just wrong.
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>>95322222
>In the cartoon, he was content with running Cybertron off-screen

>Hello? This is Decepticon command, How may I help you?
>Shockwave! We need a space bridge!
>M-Megatron? it's been four million years...!
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>>95322437
The day Shockwave's Burden fails to make me laugh, is the day I lose the will to live.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-ItfWY3xMQ
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>>95322696
I grew up in the 80s, enjoyed Beast Wars, ignored the fuck out of the Energon shows, never really cared much for Animated, watched but was hardly pleased with Bayformers, enjoyed TFP although it had a lot of missed opportunities that I wish they'd had a chance to explore, and still haven't gotten around to watching Combiner Wars.

Not sure what the hell any of that means except I like what I like. At most nostalgia may allow me to enjoy 80sformers for how goofy it is, BOT and all, but I have a high tolerance for goofy shows. At the same time there were a lot of shows I watched as a kid that I barely remember and have no interest in rewatching. Silverhawks comes to mind.
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>>95322912
I love how Shockwave had absolutely no Plan B for Cybertron in case Megatron never returned. Hell, his Plan A was just to warm his chair with his ass.

Does that, dare I say it, make him the most Our Guy out of any Transformer, even over Blot?
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>>95321354
Warning: pretty autistic
>Great war is largely over
>Decepticons exist mostly as fractured crime cells scattered throughout the galaxy
>Autobots are revered but considered largely irrelevant. (Basically the cybertronian version of knights in shining armor)
>Humans and cybertronians have been in contact for decades at this point (first arriving in 1984, current date is 2034)
>Rachet is one of the last Autobots who believes the war against the decepticons is not yet over and fears these 'crime syndicates' are yet linked beyond using old symbols to claim power.
>Rachet is largely dismissed as a relic and conspiracy nut except by a handful of friends and associates including arcee and bumblebee.
>The three have come to earth, tailing detective strongarm who is working with human police chief fanzone to investigate a gathering of decepticon cells on Earth in hopes of answers.

>Why has decepticon activity been on the rise?
>Why do they seem so United if they're separate gangs?
>Who leads them?
>And will any of them onow what became of their leader megatron and his enemies Optimus prime and elita one?

Also because I've been reading up on the Russian mob, decepticons may or may not act like mafiya. (To contrast to Autobots functioning as a knightly order)
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>>95323026
The only answer is Trunky.
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>>95323026
I HATE THE TRUKKY.
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>>95322802
Prime Autobots were boring and lame as fuck. This is a fact. Does anyone have the Prime vs G1 pic?
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>>95322953
>I love how Shockwave had absolutely no Plan B for Cybertron in case Megatron never returned
Eh, season 2 establishes that the Decepticons have footholds on alien worlds. The giant purple super-computer overseeing the purple drone armies overseeing the slaves processing energon screams "Shockwave idea".

So to clarify, canonically, Shockwave's Plan B was to harvest energon from the branwaves of mer-people. This is why I love the G1 cartoon.
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>>95323223
That's what you say but it seems equally, nay, an even more likely possibility that Deceptitranny was one of Shockwave's robot minions who decided he was an idiot and fucked off to do his own thing.

Never forget that pic related is what a Shockwave plan looks like. It's only brilliant if he really wanted to rub his junk all over Starscream's cockpit. And, hey, maybe he did?
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>>95323335
In what continuities do Cybertronians even have junk?
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>>95323380
I wouldn't doubt the possibility of Beastformers having genitalia due to all the sexual innuendos on the show.

Now as for every continuity I want to give a hard no although if you acknowledge Kissplayers existence one could argue their mufflers in that series work kind of like a sexual organ or at least serves as an erogenous zone seeing how Optimus became clearly aroused when Marissa was rubbing it.
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>>95323380
They're cars, aren't the? They have trunks, don't they? In what reality is there NOT junk in that trunk, anon?

You answer me that and stay fashionable.
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>>95323481
Now as for every other continuity*
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>>95323380
Cybertronian "junk" is stored internally like many animals on Earth. In fact Ironhide shows his from time to time. It's built into his arm and he can deploy it as his "foam blaster". Shockwave is proud of his and keeps it out on display at all times, making sure to jiggle his cord suggestively at the camera at every opportunity. Megatron and Optimus' genders are hard to pin down, however, since they deploy maces or axes. Cybertronians are weird like that.
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>>95323574
>The seekers have two
Woah.
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>>95323613
Those aren't even installed internally. Dude, Seeker guns are basically Cybertronian strap-ons.
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>>95323053
As a side note for this, while plenty of other "Autobots" (both actually support for rachet and just cybertronians) would appear, I'd want to try to keep the cast of heroes fairly small and concise, even strongarm and fanzone wouldn't always appear.

(I'm also trying to avoid immediately breaking put megatron and Optimiss I hope of focusing more on other Autobots and decepticons)
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>>95323704
Great, now I'm thinking of Decepticon and Autobot gigalos. Thanks a lot, asshole!
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>>95323804
Why aren't you thinking about Megatron's arm mounted bot-tamer being rammed up Starscream's exhaust port? I guarantee you the rest of us are!
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>>95323962
KEEP DREAMING YOU DEGENERATRON!
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>>95323335
To be fair, that was Starscream's idea.
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>>95323981
This makes Tarn's double fusion cannons even funnier. Also a sadder.

Poor Glitch. He needed to strap them on because any high performance machine he was around suddenly died. And went flaccid.
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>>95292830
What did he mean by this?
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>>95324319
youre in the wrong thread you idiot >>95323674
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>>95324451
If people want to bitch about writers you should have sent him to the GI Joe thread.
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>>95324512
they have enough trouble all by themselves though
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>>95323481
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>>95325777
DELET THIS.
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>>95326399
THIS

Someone post the version with the Autobot symbol shooped on the truck instead!
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>>95323335
All hail shockwave.
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>>95325777
>>95326451
Ask and ye shall receive
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>>95323109
Fuck off Walky.
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>>95322861
>Shockwave gets bored waiting for Megatron to call
>starts watching the cooking channel
>for 4 million years
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>>95329182
Is Shockwave the ultimate housewife?
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>>95329371
Of course
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>>95321354

It's kind of like Animated in that there was already a great war. The Autobots and Decepticons now have their own seperate homeworld. Autobots on Caminus and the Decepticons on Charr.Optimus is a war hero now trying to live a peaceful life as a space explorer (like Optimus Primal), while Megatron is a general in the Decepticons army trying to rise throw the ranks. basically they encounter each other by chance, fight, end up crashing to Earth.

The Autobots meet Spike Witwicky and Carly....usually typical stuff.

Season 1 would bet he "Robots In Disguise" season. Get all the usual bullshit out of the way, so an episode where Hot Rod fucks up and does stupid shit with the humans....like that.

Season 2 would be wear the government starts getting involved, Megatron is in stasis following the season 1 final battle, Shockwave replaces him and goes full Marvel comics, also deals with human terrorists (thinking of being fanwanky and incorporating past human villains like Dr. Arkeville, Silas...and maybe Old Snake (basically this is Cobra Commander's last attempt at taking over the Earth...in my continuity G.I Joe is canon but it happened like 20 or so years before the Transformers show up)
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Continued >>95331103


Season 3 would be the aftermath of the season 2 final, where most of the main bot and con cast is scattered in space, and basically have space adventures eventually making their way back to Earth only for after a few months of being gone, Devastator has been fully realized and now takes over the Earth. So this is kinda like a DOTM/All Hail Megatron end of the world invasion plotline.

Season 4. Megatron eventually discovers a new mcguffin at the end of the 3rd season and leaves Earth to go and revive Cybertron. Optimus leaves too, to go after Megatron, leaving the rebuilding Earth in the hands of Hot Rod (who now calls himself Rodimus) and Prowl and their leadership styles buttheads the entire team, Starscream returns with his own crew. Optimus also reunites with his old comrade Ironhide and flame Elita-1 in his journey to Cybertron. Also we see the Decepticon high command currently lead by Overlord take an interest in Megatron's scheme, eventually becoming a 3 way fight between Optimus, Megatron and Overlord. Also Harold Attinger becomes the human villain trying to outlaw the Transformers after what happened in the previous season.

Season 5, the time skip season and the final season. Unicron shows up, Megatron is rebuilt into Galvatron, Optimus finally becomes leader of the Autobots after bringing Cybertron back to life, Rodimus along with the newly retired Ultra Magnus travel in space on the Lost Light having shenanigans (eventually tying into the Unicron plot), also Spike and Carly finally settle down with Daniel but their happy life might be challenged by newcomer villain Dylan Gould and his goons Hydra & Buster (Darkwing and Dreadwind), eventually this leads to an epic finale.

I'd also have an OVA going on in this continuity following other characters like Devcon in their travels across the galaxy.
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>>95323026

Trukk is cool.
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>>95331103
>>95331133
>more than 3 seasons
the sky's the limit, anon
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>>95317388
Darn me. Acronyms are fun.
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>>95332081
I can totally see at least the G1 Autobots, in their naivety, running with this idea.
>Optimus, I've learned female humans carry nourishment for their young in resilient sacs attached to their chests
>Female Autobots have purely aesthitic chest protrusions which serve no real purpose, maybe we can modify them in the same way to avoid running low on Energon in the field?
>Hmm. That could indeed be useful. Get to it.
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>>95332838
>Shockwave hears about this and does the same




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