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Apparently a new Storm series is coming.
>In the Q&A portion of the eventful panel, a fan asked about the possibility of a solo series for the fan-favorite mutant who made her thunderous debut in Giant-Size X-Men #1. Alonso responded, “Yeah…Depends on our schedules, let’s put it that way…we have specific interest.”
>“But it’s happening?” the fan pressed.
>Alonso responded, “Yeah.”

What creative team would you like to see?

What are your other hopes & ideas for the X-Men both comics & film?
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Kinda hoping for Ta Nehisi Coates but I have low expectations.

I dunno what the angle is for a Storm book though
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I would like to see them put a black female writer and artist on the series. It would be good for diversity. The artist should also draw Storm to be thicker like real black women who don't need no man
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>>95843015

Film? I don't care.

I just want X-Men comics back to what they were.
I want new mutants.
I want fun X cartoons and video games again.
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>>95843015
>What creative team would you like to see?
Writing - Writer of Panther's recent ongoing if he can keep BLM and American black issues out of the book completely.

Art - Wouldn't mind Acuna as seen in the OP post.
Marco Checchetto would probably be my first choice after his Old Hawkman book is done (such a waste)
Regardless I would really like a return to her X-Treme X suit. Just make the yellow stripe a red x.
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>>95843015

Storm is like Martian Manhunter, she's best on a team but can only do so much on her own. She doesn't have an interesting supporting cast outside of the X-Men and I don't really see any potential stories.

I like Storm, especially naked, but we all know this comic would fail. Just like her last one.

>>95843077

Stop that.
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>>95843015
If Cap Marvel, Ms Marvel, America and Moon Girl are alive with shitty sales... I guess Storm has a chance, right?
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>>95843170
>and I don't really see any potential stories.
Fighting the Egyptian gods. (maybe with thor)
Teaming up with Moon Knight to investigate some mystical African mysteries.
>>95843170
>I like Storm, especially naked
Yes.
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>>95843210
>none of that will happen
>especially the naked part
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Is Seven to Eternity almost done?
Get Jerome Opena back to draw it.
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>>95843015
AUGH!

I fucking hate Storm. Just what I don't want: more boring Storm stories in another failed attempt at a solo series. Literally the only X-Men characters that even partly work as solo characters are Wolverine, Deadpool and maybe Cable.
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>>95843015
>What creative team would you like to see?
it doesn't matter

the writer is going to be some author I've never heard of hired only because they were black and Marvel only has minority authors on minority characters.

>>95843049
she fucks people while Forge watches from his cuck shed
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>>95843015
>more storm

Can't wait for it to not sell while characters that could have interesting stories (that also don't sell) sit around being furniture for Kitty Pryde to boss around
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>>95843015
I've read somewhere that Storm and Blacl Panther are going to be athing again.

I hope now that Wolverine is back, he cucks BP again.
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>>95843210
>Shipp will never do a photoshoot recreating that cover...
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>>95843083

i want new mutants and New Mutants
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Name three arcs made in the past decade that are worth reading from the X-Men line! You can't!
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>Storm solo series

I'd have been cool with this like a decade ago.

I don't trust the current Marvel to do it right, though. I don't trust them not to turn it into some kind of black separatist/nationalist story.

Storm is a student of Professor X, not Magneto. Marvel should write her leaning towards MLK, not Malcolm X. There was a time when Marvel would have done exactly that and a Storm solo would have been on my acquisition list immediately. Now is not that time.

The only non-Star Wars Marvel book I'm buying right now is Soule's Astonishing X-Men, and then only because Soule's on it and I loved his work on Lando, Obi-Wan & Anakin, and the new Vader volume (and his Poe Dameron run has been an excellent effort despite the woeful source material). Legacy has me vaguely considering Waid's Captain America and absolutely nothing fucking else. Prove to me that you won't fuck up and maybe I'll buy in.
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>>95843354
Do Marvel create new mutants?
The only "new" ones are version from other universes or clones of already known mutants as much as I know.
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>>95843478
i cant name a single one in the history of comic books
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Guys I am scared about Dark Phoenix.
I actually liked Apocalypse a good deal.
But this talk of making it grounded is just fucking utterly infuriating.

And who the fuck is Chastain playing?
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>>95843486
Star Wars is gay and overdone.
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>>95843511

So?
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>>95843519
People who keep reading its comics are gay and bad. You don't want to be gay and bad, right? Make the right choice.
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Storm had a solo series a couple of years ago. I wouldn't mind her getting another solo series again but done right but I don't trust Marvel with the X-Men right now.
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>>95843478
>Every arc from Rick Remender's Uncanny X-Force except the one with Captain Britan.
>Yost's X-Force
>X-Force - Sex & Violence mini.
>Haven't finished it but the first few arcs of Cable & X-Force was decent.
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>>95843657
>Storm had a solo series a couple of years ago
Which was good.
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Who's /Gifted/ here?
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>>95843657
I want more of that exact X-Men anime so bad.
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>>95843510

Apocalypse was perfectly fine up until and including the big Quicksilver scene. The only problem I had with it up until then was the fact that Oscar Isaac's Apocalypse looks like a Oompa-Loompa who ate the blueberry gum and got juiced but stayed blue.

After that scene, though, it was like the movie just didn't care anymore. In terms of effects, writing, and acting, Apocalypse turned into a SyFy original movie as soon as the Quicksilver scene was over. The effort was just gone.
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>>95843729

Yes, give her Japan. They already made her really popular over there with that show.
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>>95843752
>Apocalypse turned into a SyFy original movie
Fuck off with that bloody exaggeration at worst it became a bayformers-ish action fest.
And the final confrontation was great, beautiful music track during it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bewk5dF_BoY
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>>95843015
Honestly? Claremont. Let him run crazy with Storm and see if he comes up with something interesting. Way better than having her adhere to some retarded racist black identity bullshit the token black writers they'll assign to her will cough up.

even if the book is shit, at least it will be someone's fetish fuel.

>>95843170
I agree. Though I could dig a "young storm in egypt" book.
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>>95843015
I'm tired of the leotard and I've always hated the mohawk. Can Storm get a cool costume now?
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>>95843752
My complaints are
>underwhelming Apocalylse and his design
>terrible Jean Grey
>no 80's like atmosphere
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>>95843880
What kind of costume would you like to see, anon?
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>>95843486
>Storm is a student of Professor X, not Magneto. Marvel should write her leaning towards MLK, not Malcolm X.
You could say this exact thing about Cyclops.
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> JMS, Olivier Coipel & Marko Djurdjevic will never made Storm great again like they did for Thor...
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>>95843015

GENTLEMEN

I'VE GOT IT

Storm in the savage lands.

Art by Cho.
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>>95843855
>that generic ass orchestral track
Really not helping your case here.
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>>95843969
>Djurdjevic
I miss him /co/!
https://artfiles.alphacoders.com/829/82912.jpg
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>>95844004
It goes into generic bombastic territory but at first it's rather subtle and emotional.
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What the fuck is wrong with Marvel guys...

> Weapon X with Domino my favorite mutant in her element on a kill crew with sexy lady deathstrike for good measure...

> Puts Greg Fucking Land on art...
> Later adds the notably better Ibram Roberson but he isn't doing the beautiful under shaded style he had on generation hope. (pic related)
> Weapon Hulk the most generic unimaginative childish 90s concept ever.
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You would think Fox would try a Storm movie in the 80s set after Apocalypse to capitalize on both female lead success in WW and Black Panther's upcoming success.
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Kick Panther to the curb and stamp on him.
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>>95844285
Okay first I thought it was dumb to ship them because powertheme-similarity and Storm is always seen as kinda goddes-like

But now I ship it
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>>95843657
Where's #6 from, because DAMN
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Honestly Im surprised it's taken this long.
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>>95844722

Boondocks season 3
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>>95843049
>hoping for Ta Nehisi Coates
The fuck is wrong with you?
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>>95843015
>What creative team would you like to see?
Rivera and Malin
That's all what the X Old Guard deserves
Or maybe Whitley and Cho for the keks
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>>95845184
His first arc on the main Panther book was fucking great and had none of that shit in it.
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>>95844842
Thanks
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>>95843991
Fund it!
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>>95843015
I want to discuss semi-related X-Men stuff.
anyone has balls to talk with me?
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>>95843495
Yes
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>>95843015
A creative team that isnt a fan of that shitty Black Panther x Storm shit
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>>95843478
>Legacy
>X-Factor
>Gillen's X-Men
>various Secret Wars minis
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>>95843868
Claremont is an old guy
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>>95843991
+1
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>>95843015
Ehhhh.
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>>95843991
I guess that's always an option.
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>>95843969
>JMS
Well Bendis made sure of that.
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>>95844722
Some cheap anime with OC child protags and with Marvel heroes in it or something
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>>95846097
Okay
>>95846109
Really?
Could you list some of them?
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>>95846223
>Okay
Choose your pick
>Ka-Zar
>Captain Britain
>Cloak and Dagger
>Power Pack
>New Warriors
>in4 they ain't x-men
That's why I said SEMI, because there are parts that can be discussed here.

>Could you list some of them?
For starters the guy in Gen X, the girl with horns (Li something?). Claremont himself introduced 2 new mutants, despite saying that marvel doesn't allow new mutants.
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I am not a fan of the current direction of the x-men comics.
it seems like there is no plan apart from 80s and 90s cartoon nostalgia
everything from Morrison on has been deleted and vilified, excepted for 2 of the most disliked characters, Fantomex (whom I like a lot), and Quentin Quire (I dislike what Aaron made of him).

I miss Utopia, and I also kinda miss X-Club (Kavita Rao, Danger, Dr Nemesis, Madison Jeffries)

btw, I had a dream last night, and all I remember from it is "discovering" Xorn was only 24 years old. I need to think of the X-Men less.
It would be positive if the 05 died/went back to the past. Or even if they merged with their older selves.
If they send them to an Exiles styles book, Id fear having them back in the main books again once the fake Exiles book gets cancelled (which would happen soon)
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>>95846285
Morrison is the main reason that x-men are shit these days. He turned them from superheroes to school
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>>95846070
Why did every female hero beat up on red hulk? What did they mean?
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>>95843510
Dark Phoenix is a giant red flag with how the film was never officially announced and how they are being absolutely secret about it.
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>>95844132
>generation hope
That was Second Coming, your picture.
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>>95843015
Claremont and somebody that could draw hot women would be best.

Hopefully the new book let's her leave the X-Men for a little while and not be overran by its happenings like Pak' s book was.
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>>95846541
She already controlled the Phoenix in her first try , seems too late to suddenly make it some forbidden malicious entity possessing her
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>>95846574
People have obsession with Claremont, while at the same time they hate his new works.
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>>95846508
Rulk was clearly Cho's self insert during the Lady Liberators issue.
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>>95843015
Diden't Storm have a solo series a couple of years back?
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When will the X-Teens come back?
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>>95846928
Why is Susan so buff? I love it, but it's weird.
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>>95846642
Haven't seen much hate for the recent Nightcrawler book though

>>95846928
>pic
>calling someone a jughead
>while juggling all these great jugs
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>>95847073
>Haven't seen much
You haven't seen much either
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>>95843486
Honestly if done right I wouldn't mind it. X-men now a days is about a bunch of diverse people abandoning their pasts and heritage because they have an x-gene and going "I'm not black/indian/whatever I'm a mutant". What happens when a mutant decides to keep with their culture or when one who left comes back. Now the big problem is this requires good writers which Marvel lacks
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>>95843159
I know a lot of people hate Sage, but she does things to my dick
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>>95843210
bring back her nudism
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>>95843657
5>6>2>3=8=4>>>>>>trash>>>>>>>>>>
everything else
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>>95843510
Dark Pheonix will suck, and the new casting sucks for all of them. I'm only interested in New Mutants now. Even Deadpool 2 sounds like it's going to be bad
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>>95846960
I miss them too Anon
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>>95843794
Expecting Japan of all places to make a comic/manga about an actual African-American (African immigrant)christmas cake and not either make a generic Japanese steel donuts, pick a Japanese X-man (Probably Psyloc, Armor if know and Sunfire if they have taste), or go the ultimate pleb route and choose Kitty. Shit like Afro Samurai and Blaster Knuckle are those rare miracles from heaven.
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>>95846130
yes, but he still has functioning eyes, unlike JMS
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>>95846642
I really like X-treme X-men. And the Nightcrawler book is regarded as one of the best recent X-men books
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>>95847365
>regarded as one of the best recent X-men books
>source
All I've seen is "meh"
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>>95843015
a solo book about an alternate universe gwen stacy come to 616. she is a mutant and a recovering drug addict whose power is to trap other people in visions of their own personal paradise. call it X-Stacy
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>>95846541
that's because The Gifted is the priority now marketing wise.
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>>95847405
Oh man you are so late to the party.
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>>95843015
A Storm solo is the only book I'd like Claremont to come back. Ororo was always his fetish character.
Let him do whatever he wants in the 10-12 issues the book is going to last.
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>>95847365
>And the Nightcrawler book is regarded as one of the best recent X-men books
It's ultra mediocre.
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>>95847437
damn. I was hoping it was the one X- pun they hadnt used yet.
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>>95846203
Well that does narrow it down to 2 or 3, thanks!
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>>95847365
real subtle huh
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>>95843991
good post
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>>95843328
what book is this from?
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>>95846950
Yes.
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>>95848234
subtle enough for me to not get it, but I never read GiTS. I really should cause I love the movie, SAC and 2nd gigArise can eat a bag of dicks, I also love the guys porn, he does some extremely detailed work that stands so far above any other hentai out there.
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>>95843015
Storm's original arc was moving from the team eye-candy to the hyper competent leader. But once she arrived at being hyper competent, people didn't know what to do with her.

imho, she needs an editor to take a long term interest in developing a character arc. something that lasts for a few years and is consistent across the line.
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>>95846541
>how they are being absolutely secret about it.
Not really. They have been dropping hints like Dazzler, Sunfire, Imperial Guards and stuff.
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>>95847218
How does DP2 sound bad
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>>95847171
>I know a lot of people hate Sage
Why?
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>>95851541
>the team eye-candy to the hyper competent leader
These should not be mutually exclusive.
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>>95852043
Really? Trying to combine the two, such as in current Captain Marvel, doesn't seem very successful to me.
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>>95843273
>Is Seven to Eternity almost done?
No?
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>>95843049
Coates? You mean so the plot can be about fighting the cultural appropriation of twerking by white celebrities?
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>>95843586
Anon, he's a Soulefag. He has no taste whatsoever.
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>>95852116
How is current Captain Marvel a example of such? They removed every ounce of her eye candy.
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Is he /ourguy/?
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>>95852755
>getting a tattoo of Land's art
tragic
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>>95843991
Sold.
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Am I the only person who dislikes the sameface manfaces of Cho?
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>>95843991
Art by Cho
Can't Marvel bribe that guy who made Wonder Woman: Earth One?

...scratch that, get him on Psylocke, maybe Bengus for Storm because he does magic with her looks
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>>95843486
Magneto is more of militant Zionist
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>>95851975
People tend to hate Mary Sues
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>>95843486
>Legacy has me vaguely considering Waid's Captain America
I kinda lost interest when they got him to be a fucking cosmic cube copy instead of the real deal.
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>>95854392
>Can't Marvel bribe that guy who made Wonder Woman: Earth One?
Yaaassss his Ultimate Storm was pure sex.
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>>95855212
Unf, and I didn't even know about that.

>>95854919
Wasn't she just a plot device or something?
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>>95843015
>That fab Ororo on the cover
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How's it going fellow Superiors? Wanna play Doctor? Especially Miss Rogue over here... >>95847365
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>>95847437
Is she part snake or something?
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>>95850919
X-men Legacy volume 2 issue 16. Legion uses a hypnotist personality to bypass her psionic shields and convince her that magic isn't real
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>>95843049
X-Men Grand Design is gonna be great, it's actually the only Marvel title besides Platoon that I'm pulling
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>>95846928
Reverse ryona fetish
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Just finished reading the Inferno omni which collects all the X books crossing over. Damn that's actually a really good event. What tie ins should I read from non-X books?

Also, why does Louis Simonson not get any credit for doing a lot of the early X book work? She was writing far more than Claremont in this era, X-Factor, The New Mutants and X-terminators mini, that's 3 books in Inferno and Claremont only had the one X-men book.

Anyway, I really prefered the Magik story to the Maddy one, that was was really good too though.
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>>95858193
Because her New Mutants stuff is worse than Claremont's and X-factor was cause of the franchise's downfall. Uncanny was also double shipping at the time. Also it's inconvenient for some people to acknowledge that women were writing comics back then
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>>95858193
>Anyway, I really prefered the Magik story to the Maddy one, that was was really good too though.

I'm still pissed that Maddy hijacked Illyana's story and continues to do this with Secret Wars Inferno and the recent stories featuring that Maddy
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>>95858381
>X-factor was cause of the franchise's downfall
eXplain. X-factor was an editorial mandate made for Jeanfags. I really don't like the O5 except for Scott and Hank, but lots of people like the team.

Her New Mutants stuff wasn't as consistent as Claremont's, very true, it but it's highs were damn good and the Inferno arc is on par with Demon Bear Saga
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>>95858480
>eXplain. X-factor was an editorial mandate made for Jeanfags. I really don't like the O5 except for Scott and Hank, but lots of people like the team.

It's not Louise's fault since the damage was done before she got there but retconning Jean's death and pulling Cyclops out of retirement basically locked the franchise into a status quo they could never break out of. Up until that point Claremont had been expanding the borders of a universe. After that point they just started filling in the blank spots in the middle.
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>>95858573
oh yeah, I agree there. Bringing Cyclops out of retirement also really damaged Havok cause since then he's always struggled to find a place in the comics. Most writers have his only defining characteristic is that he is Scotts brother
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>>95843159
They should just hire Barry Windsor Smith and let him do his planned "Storm as Modern Day Black Red Sonia" series that he pitched in the mid-80s behind Claremont's back.

Depower Storm again and ship her back to Africa and have her fight demons and monsters and other Swords and Sandals type villains. Get BWS to draw/write and not have it run on a regular schedule (make it a quarterly or bimonthly book depending on how fast BWS can pump out issues). Market it not as a SJW book, but as a creator spotlight book since BWS used to be a huge name that could sell huge number of books.
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>>95861274
SHIIIIIET

DEM ABS
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>>95843328
>Magikfags are this delusional
Solo X-Men don't sell.
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>>95862328
>anti-magikfags are this illiterate
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>>95858193
Simonson's not a good writer that's why. None of that stuff is anything better than middling.
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>>95862328
The Claremont Magik mini is fantastic though
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I'm surprised Northstar never became more prominent in the X-Men so they could have their own Quicksilver/speedster and Quicksilver could properly be fully in the Avengers' world in regular adventures even being Magneto's son.

That and you'd think a speedster would be a very useful and basic power for a semi-prominent X-Man to have, you know?
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>>95862600

he would also be the ideal boyfriend for gay Iceman
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>>95861167
Whatever happened to her anyway?
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>>95862758

the O5 from the past fucked hard the "real" new mutants
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>>95862600
he's nearly a clone of quicksilver cause he's an asshole speedster
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>>95862600
Northstar was a major part of the team in the 00s in terms of them exploiting that as you suggested.

But then Mark Millar decided to have a brainwashed Wolverine MURDER Northstar for shock value and had the Hand bring Northstar back evil-evil and arrested by SHIELD and forgot all about him.

It wasn't until the Carey X-Men run that someone remembered him existing/still evil and brainwashed. Carey deprogrammed him/reset Aurora's personality to not-crazy and sent them back to Alpha Flight. And later on, about a year later, Matt Fraction brought Madison Jeffries onto the team and had Northstar back on Alpha Flight.
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>>95862635
Marvel really blew their load too soon by marrying him for the sake of having a gay wedding. I mean, I'm not really a fan of gay Iceman, but if he has to have a boyfriend, it might as well be the guy who has a established crush on him.
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>>95851541
Complete misreading of the character bub.

Storm started off as a wussy ass "I shall never kill!" sissy heroine; basically the type that abhores violence and constantly complained when she had to use her powers to fight bad guys.

Then the Brood Saga happened and she nearly got turned into a Brood Queen/was away from Earth for a while. Then Xavier forced Rogue onto the team which Storm did not want (to the point of throwing a knife at Xavier and threatening to lead a team-wide walk-off and later admitting to Rogue, point blank, that she STILL hated her guts and had been lying to her face about forgiving her/liking her, well into the tail end of the Australian period) and she had to stab Callisto in the heart to save Angel and Kitty from the Morlocks.

Everything came to a head when Viper poisoned the team and Rogue had to team up with one of Logan's friends (Yuriko) and in her fucked up state of mind, ended up letting Yuriko make her over into a butch punk rocker with mohawk. And that with her new look, she stopped giving a fuck and became a bad-ass hero, which ended up backfiring on her because she then lost her powers within a year.

She then went super emo, realizing that she spent years being a bleeding heart and repressing her bad emotions because they affected her powers and as such, behaved like a stepford wife. She doubled down on being a hardass, even after she got her powers back, but after being turned into a kid and science raped by Genosha, she regressed back into being moe.

Storm's entire arc is that she's a cutey moe who secretly wants to be a butch badass.

Also, her arc as leader was less a big thing and more the fact that when Scott left the team, Logan was too violent to lead, Kurt was too much of a loose cannon silly-wise, Peter was too dumb muscle to lead, Kitty was a rookie, and Angel made it clear that he would kick Logan off the team first thing if he led it. She was the only one left and ended up having to run with the ball.
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>>95862994
There is a reason Millar is on my DO NO READ list. Even his 'good' stuff like his Jupiter universe is not good IMO. The only thing I think he did well is boot The Ultimate universe. Everything else is half assed shit and has nothing worth while to add to comics.

I agree with Morrison, and if I saw him on the street I would run that fucker over
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>>95862525
Disagree.

The original foreshadowing in the issue where Magik is aged up implied plans for a major arc where the X-Men would be hunting Bloodstones (existing cursed magical stones in the Marvel Universe) and Illyanna having a horrific destiny planned (potentially being sacrificed or turned into a host for a monstrous HP Lovecraft cosmic horror).

Instead, we got a worthless arc to get rid of older Storm and the bloodstones turned out to be 100% symbolic.

Even Claremont realized he fucked up, hence why he hardcore retconned the Magik mini-series with Black Sun and retconned the Bloodstones in Magik's prophecy with the souls of the X-Men themselves (which make sense in that there was three bloodstones in her locket and three dead X-Men at the time).
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>>95863142

I agree with you. And they can't destroy Northstar's marriage because he married a black man.
It would be problematic, as in undoing a "progressive" thing, for another.
I dont care about Iceman being gay because I dont care about Iceman, always considered him the worst one of the O5 (Angel was the worst one but he became a bit interesting when he became Archangel)
But if I were an Iceman fan I would have been very angry at the retcon that turned him into an almost 30 years old closetted homosexual. It is painful to see Iceman flirt with women in comics older than the Bendis run.

If I had to make a character gay, I would choose one of the "asexual" ones who have never been in any romantic relationship or shown sexual interest in anybody.
Like Exodus for example. He may be an 800 years old virgin. And if you read his origin story as a crusader, it kinda looks like he was in love/man crush with a preincarnation of the Avenger Black Knight, and he became "evil" because he saw his sraight pal he had a crush on make out with Cerci. So he got mad jealous and left on his own being found by Apocalypse.

Later he rebels against Apocalypse by refusing to kill Black Knight, and Apocalypse puts him to sleep for centuries until 90s xmen happen.
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So are mutants gay communists?
They appear at sexual onset usually and hide in human society, plotting to take over.
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>>95863378
there are a ton of gay marvel characters though. No one cares about Exodus, Striker is actually a better character. But marvel buries Avenger Academy even though it has a ton of fans
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>>95863453
>But marvel buries Avenger Academy even though it has a ton of fans

No you bitches are just loud
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>>95863384

mutants are gay black jews

inhumans are muslim trannies
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>>95843015
>general
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>>95863453
Did they ever explain the origin of characters' powers? I remember they had a lot get told they are not mutants, but had almost the cliche first trigger.
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>>95863560
>canada
in marvel that's enough. Canada experiments on everyone
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>>95861517
Yeah Larroca in that run knew how to make muscular women sexy as fuck.
> Dis green chick...
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>>95863453

If I had to turn a villain into a hero (an x-men tradition that happens every decade) Exodus would be my first choice, like in AoA. Because he was never that evil to begin with.
But he is too powerful for a team, telepath + telekinetic + teleporter
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>>95863657
holy shit, that is amazing
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>>95863491
What does that make Atlantians a metaphor for?
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>>95863657
blue sonja is pretty there at the bottom
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>>95863378
>Like Exodus for example. He may be an 800 years old virgin.

Possibly a good choice, he may have been gay for Black Knight and/or Magneto.
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>>95843210
>Fighting the Egyptian gods. (maybe with thor)
I'd like to see her beat Jane just to piss of Jane fags.
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/co/ used to hate new Claremont. What happened? Did everyone finally realize that X-treme was really good when you compare it to compare it current X-men books?
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>>95847365
>>95861274
>>95863657
>>95863955
>>95863984
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>>95864046
It's so depressing seeing a artist get worse overtime.
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>>95864089
> Pic related is Salv, they mistook it for Land for obvious reasons.
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>>95864083
>/co/ used to hate new Claremont.


I refuse to believe such a thing was possible. Maybe they hated his post-1991 stuff but how can you possibly hate the guy that defined the entire franchise?
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>>95864046
>make Storm a nudist again
it was part of her god complex and part her being one with nature.

make a comic of a nude Storm shedding all her pretenses, taking LSD and going on a spiritual journey. Let her meet her parents or actually bond with africans, cause from what I've read she hasnt' yet
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>>95864083

a self indulgent waifufest is much better than what we have now
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>>95864146

new claremont is what he wrote for marvel in the 2000s
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>>95864180
My bad, didn't see the word new in the original post
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>>95864089
tracing is ok if it's for a purpose. David Mack traced for Kabuki some of the times, but he was moving through so many art styles that he was doing to to offset the expressionist stuff he was doing.

You picture makes me disappointed though
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>>95864327
>tracing is ok if it's for a purpose
Agreed. I liked Deodato making Norman Osborn look like TLJ for example.
>You picture makes me disappointed though
Agreed, it was from his Invincible Iron Man run which appears to be where he started tracing, none of such appears to be in Xtreme.
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>>95864924
>>95864924
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>>95843991
fuck you stupid ass
Just take Shanna the She-Devil and paint it black
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>>95858644
Too bad Peter David couldn't keep Havok on X-Factor
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>>95862994
Was Carey on damage control for four years or something? Every X-thread mentions him setting stuff up/fixing forgotten stuff
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>>95843015
>Storm heads out on her own for some "self-discovery" reason
>Only ever fights natural disasters and the odd Z-list villain
>Frequent guest-spots from other X-characters more important than her
>Never shuts up about her importance to the X-Men and how only "the dream" matters to her
>Cancelled in six issues and she goes back to normal X-books
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>>95870056
>Was Carey on damage control for four years or something?

Of all the writers in the post-Decimation X-Clusterfuck, he had the longest, most consistent, and most continuity polishing run. He focused on Rogue, Xavier, and Legion in really productive ways, and was generally a high point is a sea of suck. Of course, Marvel sailed the SS X-Men out of the Sea of Suck and right into the Ocean of Unreadable Shit.
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>>95846070
DAMN Mrs. Fantastic looks like THAT?
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>>95863453
>Finesse/Hazmat will never be used again
it hurts
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>>95872065
Gotta push those time-displaced O5 X-Men and leave the actual X-Kids behind.
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>>95872094
don't forget the literately pick the worst new mutant of each generation to push
>Quentin
>Bling!
>Blindfold
>Eye Boy
>Goldballs
>Goldballs
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I can't wait for the next 5-10 years when all the writer who grew up in the 90s take over writing duties
that X-Men: Grand Design is a dope idea but should focus on the best time, when I was a kid
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>>95872180
This is what bothers me. You have a host of interesting x-kids and you literally pick the worst of them all.
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>>95847285

Armor is cool. Id watch another X-men anime
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>>95861274
damn that's some great abs
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>>95853206
This.

>>95852755
Dear god, why.
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>>95843049
oh boy, I can't wait for a book that makes everything seem like it's about Jean and Logan and erases all my favorite characters
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>>95848234
>GITS invented wires and computers
fuck off.
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>>95872678
I have to wonder if the Academy X kids are off limits or something. Because why the fuck would you choose awful characters like Eye Boy and Nature Girl and other Aaron era rejects for your teen X-Men book when you have more viable/better characters not getting used.
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>>95874769
Considering the time period it's not outside the realm of possibility.
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>>95870056
Pretty much, yeah. Supernovas was good fun, and Legacy was him picking up the pieces of Messiah Complex.
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Should Nation X be considered the continuation of District X?
I miss that kind of book, but then, there is no place on earth with a big mutant population anymore

I wish that during the terrigen mist age, mutants had taken control of Madripoor (I always imagined it as a small Singapur style island) with some kind of telekinetic forcefield to protect themselves from the cloud, kinda how they did in Age of X
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>>95875168
Don't think they are. I mean, Hellion shows up once every year or so. It's just writers playing favorites and having shit taste. The cycle of introducing new x-kids and leaving them behind once the next writer takes over is old.
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>>95875168
>why the fuck would you choose awful characters like Eye Boy and Nature Girl and other Aaron era rejects for your teen X-Men book when you have more viable/better characters not getting used.
I'm pretty sure the intent behind the book was specifically to make a class out of the biggest rejects that weren't dead already. its pretty much the X-Men equivalent of the sped class
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>>95843015
They had a Storm series a few years ago but no one cared because they put D-list talent on it and everything was out of character because the creators don't actually know or like the character. There was a kerfuffle amongst professional comic critics and gadflies when the series got slated for cancellation, even though they never talked about it before and no one liked it.

Marvel doesn't have any creators that would do a Storm book justice. They pay Claremont not to write comics, but I'd at least be slightly curious about a Storm book from him, or from Nicieza, or from Mike Carey, or from anyone with talent and the slightest history with the character or something like the character.

Instead they'll put someone like Kelly Thompson or Mags Visaggio or someone else on it, and it will be even more pointless and out of character than her last series. But in Current Year the online shills will frame the entire thing as "fans are racist for not buying it". I can't imagine a more tedious thing for everyone to have to walk through again, this Kabuki play where one side keeps pretending that the several hundred thousand people out there who have loved Storm in the past, when she was an actually incredibly strong, deep, complex character in the '80s -- we just don't buy her book now not because she'll be written like a superficial idiot but because we're "bigots".
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>>95875411

Hellion hasnt appeared in over a year, not even as background character or wallpaper, since he appeared in Uncanny Avengers 6 (the Duggan run), ill from Terrigen mist poisoning, without being able to control his powers, wrecking Attilan.
He was left in medical care.
They have plans for him, that is why they have taken special care to never draw him in Gold or Generation X.
if it is something good or bad, I dont know.

He should appear again at some time in Uncanny Avengers. read pic related
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>>95875424
The book is doing a good job of showing why they're rejects though. It's a pretty bad book. It's also not that I'm annoyed the characters have "useless" since Skin's one of my favorites, the characters just plain suck and the shitty "nothing ever happens" style of writing (a staple of current Marvel) just makes them worse.
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>>95875825

days of the future past happens in 2 issues
the original morlocks story in which Storm stabs Callisto also happens in 2 issues

comics are a bad investment, largely because of decompression
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>>95875569
I don't think Carey could write a good Storm solo. His Rogue portion of Legacy is noticeably weaker than the Xavier part and Rogue was (seemingly) Carey's waifu. You need a really, really strong hook for an X-Men solo to work and Storm right now doesn't have that. Xavier worked because him picking up the pieces and righting his wrongs is a fine hook.
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>>95863717
He jobbed to sentinels that destroyed genosha and magneto made him sleep in tube for no reason
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>>95876133

Magneto and Polaris were in Genosha too.
The only thing that makes sense is that Cassandra Nova was some kind of super genius and her Sentinels were the best ever.

last time he was seen is Bunn's Uncanny XMen
He teleported Elixir to save Magneto's life, after he almost got killed by Psylocke. No everybody except the O5 and Emma, thinks he is dead, but iirc, it will be revealed he is alive in the current Mojoworld arc.
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>>95843083
I just want them to pick up right after AvX again. I want to see when all the younger generations end up. It’s sucks that most of them have been slid by O5.
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>>95843334
>I hope now that Wolverine is back
Wait, what did I miss... I haven’t read a thing for a few weeks.
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>>95876508

he is back, and has an infinity stone. he broke out of them adamantium, and he is going to space. so expect to see him with the guardians of the galaxy or soemthing-
also, jean (the real adult one), is coming back at the end of the year. marvel will take advantage of scott being dead to hook up jean and logan
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>>95844132
>generation hope
I actually miss hope. She was fun.
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>>95861274
>too demure
>tight belly shirt, thigh-high boots and a short af schoolgirl skirt
This is why we can't read these books in public.
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>>95876550
Fuck this shit! What issue did snikt bub come back in?
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>>95876639

It must have been last week. google marvel legacy 1
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>>95876584
fuck that, I don't care. I read comics with nudity in them in public. I'll read Sunstone, Leo Roa, The Borgias. I don't care, I'm enjoying my book
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>>95876569
No she wasn't.
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>>95861274
I would like to know what run this is from.
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>>95876659
This is fucking bullshit. I think I’m officially done. They do Cyclops and Emma dirty only to glorify wolverine and jean. This is such bullshit. Fuck Jean, fuck Wolverine, fuck the O5, fuck gay iceman, fuck marvel, fuck the x-men, I’m done.
Been on this damn ride too damn long and after AvX everything that the story has progressed to just completely stopped. A whole generation of mutants just got forgotten so they could pander to people who only remember the cartoon from the 90’s.
The blatant character assassination of Cyclops and Emma is such garbage.
What the fuck happened to hope? Mutant messiah turned dead forgotten religion.
I suffer all these years hoping it would get better, but all they do is pander to people who don’t even buy their comics.
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>>95876905
Me and Hope had some good times.
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>>95876991
Claremont's X-treme X-men

He is an equal opportunity man, so just as much beefcake as there is cheesecake
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>>95877031
>I’m officially done
see you wednesday
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>>95876271
>her Sentinels were the best ever.
they are
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>>95843015
please not Ta'Nehisi Coates.....
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>>95877166
I ignored the first few issues of GenX, read through what's available, solidified my decision to avoid the X-books for the forseeable future. Maybe the failure of the Inhumans will get Marvel to readjust their priorities but the problem too is that what writers do they have that could even make a good X-Men book? Bemis is the only one I can maybe think of. Maybe Bunn. That's really it.
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>>95876905
I agree. Kenji had potential though.
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the only good "Lights of Hope" character is Transonic.
She shouldnt be seen as a "lol she can only fly like old Angel" character, but as a flying speedster like Northstar and Aurora.
She also shapeshifts while flying. I would stretch her shapeshifting to being able to carry xmen on her back
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>>95877166
Haha so fucking true. I hate myself. I feel like a pathetic girlfriend who keeps getting cheated on and beaten but I keep taking him back. Wtf is wrong with us?
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>>95877941
All of Generation Hope sucked. Not interesting characters, shitty powers, if Idie wasn't black she'd have been thrown into the dustbin with the rest of them and even she isn't really doing anything anymore.
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>>95877941
now that's a sexy fishlady
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>>95878032
>>95878079

she is also the last Marvel character for whom it is fine to be always naked




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