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>With DC Entertainment’s “DC in D.C.” event taking place this weekend, the publisher has announced a new miniseries titled The Other History of the DC Universe, written by Academy Award-winning screenwriter John Ridley. No artist has yet been announced for the series.

The miniseries aims to reexamine key parts of DC Comics history, now told through the lens of characters from minority and marginalized backgrounds. DC’s press release says the series will “analyze iconic DC moments and chart sociopolitical gains through the perspectives of DC Super Heroes who come from traditionally disenfranchised groups,” and focus “on the lives of those behind the costumes, and their endeavors to overcome real-world issues.”

>Supergirl, John Stewart, Extraño, Vixen, Katana and Rene Montoya are all named as DC characters included in the story. The series is scheduled to debut in winter 2018. The format and number of issues has not been revealed, but DC has dubbed it a “prestige comic book miniseries.”

>The scope of The Other History of the DC Universe fits the overall theme of the DC in D.C. event, which looks to unite entertainment and public service in Washington D.C., the federal capital of the United States.

>“I could not be more excited by the opportunity to excavate the canon of the DC Universe through a vast array of characters who’ve earned their seat at the table,” Ridley said in a statement. “I’m very impressed with DC’s commitment to making their history as reverent and urgent as it is engaging and entertaining for all its many fans.”

>Ridley is slated to discuss the series at “The Many Shades of Heroism: DC Heroes Through the African-American Lens” panel, scheduled to take place at 11 a.m. Eastern on Saturday, Jan. 13 as part of the DC in D.C. event.

Source: https://www.cbr.com/other-history-of-dc-universe-john-ridley/
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Neat.
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>>98049212
This will probably be cool. I hope it's not to preachy any actually fits with the characters.

>inb4 /pol/
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>>98049212
A self masturbatory tour de force of comics patting themselves in the back for "tackling serious issues" with all the subtlety and gravitas of a sledge hammer.
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>>98049212
So like a DCU version of The American Way?

Cool.
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>>98049212
Any noteworthy things Ridley’s written in particular?
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>>98049212
Haha holy fucking shit. I'm speechless hahahahaha
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>>98049212
>known for 12 Years a Slave
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>>98049306
The American Way, and that's it because as a comic book writer, he penned a few more forgettable ones including another Wildstorm mini.

On the TV side of things, he's known for ABC's award-winning three-season anthology American Crime.
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>what /co/ thinks will happen
>Katana "This reminds me of PEARL HARBOUR YOU WHITE PIGGUS"

>what will likely happen
>Katana is in Japan and reacting to Japanese families dying and trying to help
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>>98049451
I'm honestly more interested in getting the reaction of the JSA to the atomic bombings, especially Starman as he finally figures out that the mushroom cloud nuking a city full of civies is his legacy.

>>98049212
Well fuck. At lest they're doing the smart thing and keeping the SJW stuff to the side outside of the main book.

This reeks of FUCKING WHITE MALE levels of hatred.
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>>98049451
What they SHOULD write is the Outsiders meeting the JSA and Katana and Starman talking about what they did during Hiroshima.

See? That would be an interesting story divorced from identity politics, a story about characters instead of group identity.
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Huh, interesting

>Supergirl, John Stewart, Extraño, Vixen, Katana, Montoya
I dunno about Supergirl, but it'd be nice to see Montoya again
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>>98049212
>another soft reboot from DC

fuck off
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>>98049565
How would Katana be alive when Hiroshima got bombed?
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>>98049212
>Extraño
Neat. I'm placing all my eggs and hoping that Extraño makes magic cool again because Mystek U disappointed me.
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>>98049596

1. Story takes place when Batman and the Outsiders took place, in the 80's, and she was a girl during Hiroshima

2. SLIDING TIME SCALE. She wasn't, but her parents were, and she remembers them telling her about it when she visited it and the origami crane memorial as a child.
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>>98049595
Are you retarded?
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>>98049596
One of the souls in the blade told her about it?
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>>98049618
>Zatana's 7 soldiers mini showed how she could have a student and still go on jaunts through extra dimensions and fight Spectre level bad guys in huge Dr. Strange style fights.

>Naw lets have them learn magic in a university setting

God damn when will DC learn that it's at its best when its not afraid to be weird?
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decided to look up Extrano
>On one mission in particular, [Extrano] was attacked by an "AIDS vampire" called the Homo-Goblin. He was subsequently confirmed to be HIV-positive
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>>98049212
My only fear is that this won't deliver on it's promises and instead we get Batman and the same cast of characters we always get.
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>>98049638
That would actually be an interesting way to do it.

Starman, being a hard science guy, wants to look at the magic soul stealing sword. Katana agrees and at first they're stiff around each other because Starman working on the Manhattan project is in history books and no one wants to talk about the elephant in the room.

Then Starman's tools bring up a soul that starts talking about Hiroshima, and suddenly they HAVE to talk about it.
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>>98049621
Fucking retarded corny hackery

>>98049638
This would actually be great
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>>98049659
>homo-Goblin
He was actually called the hemo-goblin but Homo-goblin might be more apt.
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>>98049538
>I'm honestly more interested in getting the reaction of the JSA to the atomic bombings

That would make for pretty interesting character studies. Like, Starman (and his whole family) live the the guilt, maybe Wildcat or Green Lantern would have seen it as a "necessary evil" and that "it's different when you're at war", and have Flash talk about how he wished he could have known, so he could have saved the civilians without the government knowing he was there.
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John Ridley is without a doubt one of the most inconsistent writers in film/tv. Also chances are this will probably be very much focused on race and the issues regarding it since that's one of the things he's really known for
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>>98049658
That's what I've been saying.
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>>98049705
>character studies
That's the word I'm looking for. I think, well, I hope this book would be a character study and less wahh whitey
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>>98049713
I'm fine with that as I always wanted to know how the civil right movement would go down in a cape setting.
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Will it be Mature Readers-rated at least?
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It's about damn time!

>John Ridley's The Other History of the DC Universe to Tell Personal Stories of Marginalized Superheroes

>Oscar-winning screenwriter John Ridley has been writing an excellent politically charged superhero story in The American Way: Those Above and This Below. For his next DC project, he’s going to get inside the heads of John Stewart, Renee Montoya, Katana and others to see what it feels like to be a superhero when you’re not just another white guy.

>Ridley’s current American Way project is the sequel to a 2006 miniseries and has looked at how living with racism and political oppression affects the motivations of people with superpowers. (I’ve been talking with him about it in a series of interviews.) If The Other History of the DC Universe channels that same ethos, it should be a very fresh and energetic look at characters who’ve stood apart from their peers.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/john-ridleys-the-other-history-of-the-dc-universe-to-te-1822021969/amp
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>>98049719
There's definitely going to be some "whites have treated us like shit" in the book, but I doubt it'l be SJW-boogeyman levels of Katana shreaking about lynching whites for revenge and Montoya with 17 hair colors burning down Gotham PD with a blowtorch in her pussy talking about how Gordon is a rapist for having sired a son that he named after himself.
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>>98049748
>to see what it feels like to be a superhero when you’re not just another white guy.

Starting with that premise always ends well.
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>we want the America audiance
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>>98049659
Yeah, they acknowledged how that was kinda fucked back in that Pulse Shooting charity special a while back, so the possibility that they might outright tackle that shit genuinely has my interest.
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>>98049741
Just read The New Frontier by Darwyn Cooke
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>>98049705
This so much.

Starman, ever the good scientist, tries to rationalize it to himself at first but breaks down in tears in private. Wildcat might see it as a necessary evil. He did frame a guy for murder once. I actually see Alan as being pissed, almost pulling a Kingdom Come Superman on the White House, pissed because the brass wouldn't wait for his team to handle the invasion themselves.

He probably helped a lot with the Macarthur plan. It would be great to see him, Fate, and Johnny Thunder rebuilding stuff after the war and talking about it.

Jay might have actually saved a few people. Someone leaked what was happening to him at the last second and he speed forced his ass over there, nearly killing himself to save a handfull of people in the microsecond the bomb detonated.

What I really want to know is what Jim Corrigan would do.

>>98049719
The premise is literally identity politics. It's going to suck and suck hard.
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Do we know what time periods this book will cover?

>>98049764
12 Years a Slave wasn't cartoony about any of the issues, and Ridley wrote episodes of Justice League cartoon, Static Shock cartoon, and wrote The American Way. Take that what you will.
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>>98049748
>Not just another white guy

It says a lot about the writer that characters as diverse and strange as Batman, Superman, Flash, and Green Lantern are "just other white guys".

>Who've stood apart from their peers

HA HA HA OH WOW!
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>>98049803
>What would the Spectre do

See absolutely nothing wrong with Hiroshima and laugh like a madman as the bombs dropped. His chapter would present the perspective of the bombs as the cold hand of justice descending on Japan for her crimes against humanity.
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>>98049792
I already did and now I want more the same. That's how business work and exactly why DC is publishing this.
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/co/ would be the board excited for something penned by fucking john ridley, he's fine when he clearly is co-writing with someone but by himself he is full on hack
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>>98049765
It would be nice to see non-white characters who aren't vaguely a stereotype in some way. Like, a group of Mexican superheroes don't have to have Bandito-Man, Senorita Salsa, Dr. Day of the Dead, and Slow-poke Rodriguez all the time. Also, certain perspectives are better with minority heroes.

Like, at this point, the whole "Spider-Man is a MENACE" serves for better angst for Miles. Miles would honestly have better stories if part of his character was that both inside and outside of the suit he was always called a menace and a criminal, with him questioning if he should even bother saving people if that's who society will always view him. For Peter, it's just boring at this point for the guy who (as SpOck proved) could literally get rich off of variations of his tech and be a B-Tier Tony Stark guy to still be crying about how no-one appreciates him.
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>>98049944
I'm beginning to think you just have a problem with a black guy talking about race.
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>>98049276
This is my only problem with it, the concept is sensible but the execution will likely be empty.
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>>98049565
Why are white people so fucking triggered anytime someone wants to tell a story about discrimination and marginalized people? Anytime race is brought up people like you screech about identity politics.
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I don't see the point of this. So they're retreading old, good stories in a new light which likely won't be good? Why not just tell a completely original story with these characters? I know I'd be more interested that way.
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>>98049212

Fuck that, DC doesn't need to be bogged down with social justice MUH RACISM and white guilt.
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>>98049977
No one complained when Marvels did it.
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>>98050008

Everyone complained when Marvel did it and their sales show.
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>>98050008
That was nearly 24 years ago and had a competent creative team, but yeah sure completely the same scenario
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>>98049969
Because when the left plays identity politics they lose and lose hard if they allow Whitey to get a word in edgewise.

You want to talk about privilege? How about how Asians have to work twice as hard as blacks to get into college because of affirmative action? How about how whites pay more in taxes than they take out in benefits while blacks are the reverse? How about black criminality, how whites are far more likely to be assaulted or raped by blacks than the other way?

Whites don't normally want to play the identity politics game. White culture is big on individuality.

But you play the "straight white males are only oppressors" game whites are going to start pushing back.

And whites always, always win once they do.

Identity politics only works for the left when Whitey shuts up. And he's not anymore, which is why the left is dying a slow an undignified death in America.
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>>98049977
>they're retreading old, good stories in a new light which likely won't be good?

That’s not what it said. And just because it’s looking back on history doesn’t mean they won’t be original stories with these characters.

>>98050001
>”Omg I’m just feeling so attacked right now”
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>>98050020
>being this new
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>extraño
The first gay superhero is back
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Kevin Kho was a survivor of cambodian genocide IIRC. Wonder if that'll make it into this.
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>>98049212
>sjw propaganda trash

let it be known that Marvel isn't the only one doing this now
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>>98050050
>Le identity politics boogeyman
Being white is identity politics. You're thinking in identity politics right now.
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>>98050020
>being this casual that you don’t know what Marvels is and think anon was not referencing the miniseries
Loving every laugh

>>98050029
>”we can’t discuss topics a mini did 20 some years ago because reasons”
Haha

>>98050050
Oh for fucks sake get off of your /pol/ soapbox you insecure fuck. No one gives a shot.
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>>98050050
>Whites don't normally want to play the identity politics game. White culture is big on individuality.

condescending laughter.exe
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>>98050050
>another “this is why Trump won rant”

At this point I think it would be fun to play a 10 degrees from Kevin Bacon game to see what is the most distanced topic from politics that some stupid /pol/smoker takes it upon themselves to twist around into being a platform to let us know how the plight of being a straight white male in the world. So far the winner has been early Ducktales reboot threads.
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>>98050124
I think that’s the point he’s making
>>98050166
White culture is big on individuality. Or more accurately western culture is. It’s why the idea of limited government is only really a thing in the West, especially with whites in the US, but it does exist in Western Europe with people who still want a society that strives for the enlightenment idea of liberalism.
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>>98050209
>Ducktales reboot threads
Ducktales are getting rebooted?
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>>98050274
Have you been in prison or a coma for the past six to nine months?
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>>98049319
>I've never seen that movie the post

A key message in that movie is not all white men were evil, that some of them just inherited the business but didn't enjoy it.
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>>98050238
>I think that’s the point he’s making.
He literally said that white people don't engage in identity politics so no.
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Can't wait to see white people get fuckin' DESTROYED, biiisshhh.
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>>98050238
>"White culture is big on individuality."
>he says this when the biggest successes of White societies occurred under the auspices of monarchs and monolithic culture
The absolute state of American "intellects".
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>>98049212
>Supergirl, John Stewart, Extraño, Vixen, Katana and Rene Montoya
I'm down with this line up though. If the art is good and the previews look interesting I might get it.
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>>98050238
>White culture is big on individuality. Or more accurately western culture is.
White people are so big on individuality that they take recognition for all of western culture.
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>>98049830

Wasn’t cartoony? It added a rape that never happened because whites be rapists. It’s as subtle as a sledgehammer.
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>>98049212
Marvel decay started like this.
Godspeed.
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>>98050316
I thought he meant “white people don’t like to get involved in identity politics”
Not saying I agree with him at all btw
>>98050334
>what is the Magna Carta
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>>98049212
IT's not even funny how much this is needed.
Untangling the timeline of how things work post N25/rebirth is a nightmare.
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>>98050406
I doubt this will actually untangle the whole mess, but it might provide some insight into what happened when
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>>98050399
Being white IS identity politics.
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>>98050361
I’m talking about invidual rights and liberties not cultural identity.
Besides, what are you comparing the West to? China ? India? ok, that is a better example of the accomplishments of a single nation/culture (still in existence) but you aren’t going to find many others. And even then it’s not like Europeans claiming ownership is anywhere near subsaharan Africans in the United States claiming their ancestors were the real Egyptians.
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>>98050461
>>98050399
>Being white is identity politics

It is NOW, because after decades of letting blacks and latinos and women play identity politics white males are picking up the game as well.

That was his point. For decades white males have been fine not playing identity politics, but that's changing, and its changing in a way that's going to utterly destroy the left in America.
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>>98049701
>hemo-goblin
damn that's good too
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>>98049212
Didn't they already do this? I remember in some anthology series they had a running story that detailed DC storylines from citizens' perspective, like Marvels did.
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>>98050503
What's good and I mean what's really good my nigga is that Hemo-Goblin make the old conspiracy therory *Wink wink* of the government deliberately creating the AIDS virus to Target the black and gay communities true.
This is some shit Grant Morrison would write.
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>>98050694
These are the best way to tell superhero stories.
>Gotham Central
>Chase, which is fucking awesome and really go find it and read it.
>Checkmate
>Human defense Corps
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>>98049306
>American Way
>12 Years a Slave
>American Crime
>Undercover Brother
>Justice League Starcrossed
>That one Static Shock Episode with Toy Man
>Episodes of the Fresh Prince and Martin
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>>98050572
>The fact that you don't understand how white males ARE being held down and oppressed shows that the next few decades are going to be really rough for you and your wife's family.

What's sadder is that you don't realize everyone is being oppressed and pitted against each other, and you're eating that shit up hook line and sinker.
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>>98049741
The American Way is literally that
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>>98051184
>That one Static Shock Episode with Toy Man

Ho shit!
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>>98049212
Based. Marvel is finished.
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>>98049212
I'm excited for this... Hopefully this will build off of the work Steve Orlando did salvaging Extrano...
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>>98049212
>Extraño

Wouldnt Vibe make more sense?
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>>98049212
You know, I WANT to be open-minded, but I can't help but fear it'll be some cringey shit like John Stewart musing on the fact that coverage of Superman's death completely eclipsed the Rodney King beating, or something equally awful.
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>>98050076
Are you sure he's gay? He seems as butch as Snagglepuss.
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>>98050820
Which Checkmate run?
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>>98051590
DC has done it before, and done it decently. Just inserting Superheroes into already pre-existing historical events. I think the best example was Amazing Man in JSA.
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>>98049212
Sounds pretty cool.

>>98049257
>>98049276
you called it

>>98049952
>Peter Spider is the beloved mascot of the city
>Miles Spider is the hated otherized menace who has to stealth around

That's actually a really clever idea.

>>98050020
God damn can you be any more fucking casual?
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>>98049565

>See? That would be an interesting story divorced from identity politics, a story about characters instead of group identity.

Not really.
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>>98049803
Spectre's story would be about who to punish, who is truly responsible. Does he punish the pilots who dropped the bombs? The scientists who created them? The government for ordering its creation and use? The Japanese for instigating the war with America? God for giving mankind the freewill to do terrible things?
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>>98052211
Can Spectre punish God? Isn't his gimmick heaven's righteous rage?
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I'm in
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>>98049212
>The miniseries aims to reexamine key parts of DC Comics history, now told through the lens of characters from minority and marginalized backgrounds.
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>>98049701
>homo-goblin
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>>98052242
I don't know if he can, but that doesn't mean he can't try.
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>>98052550
He can't.
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>>98049212
>“analyze iconic DC moments [...] through the perspectives of DC Super Heroes who come from traditionally disenfranchised groups
>Supergirl
Riiiiiiight... The most historically white teenager valley girl in comics. That makes total sense.

My best guest is that she'll be there just to be a lightning rod for "racism" and is just there to receive a speech about "the black skins" like GL in Green Lantern/Green Arrow but not actually do anything.
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>>98053111
>"I'm always happy to help you people!"
>"What do you mean 'you people'?"
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>>98053111
>>98053142
Exactly. They already tried to hook her up with a black guy once before in recent memory. Not only a black guy, a black guy in a wheel chair. Because that's extra Double Plus Good.
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>>98049212
I wasnt racist until these people starting telling me I have to act like somethings good just because its got black people. Now I fucking hate niggers.
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>>98053611
Same here. And I'm not even white.

Fuck niggers.
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>>98049212
This could be good. The first issues of "The American Way" were good at framing superheroes in the American context up to the 1960s, and it was only later when the book became more of a punch-fest that the writing faltered. That initial world-building was great.
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>>98049276
>self masturbatory
Wow really savvy stuff anon. *Self* masturbation, wow.
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>>98049276
Oh God I didn't even finish that statement. Lol subtetly and gravitas you fucking dork. Throw some more words at the wall and see what sticks. Subtetly is a meme for the autistic and gravitas has no application. You're doing great. Impressive wordsmith indeed good sir.
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>>98049764
Well I mean Gordon is a rapist but not for that reason.
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>>98049212
>The miniseries aims to reexamine key parts of DC Comics history, now told through the lens of characters from minority and marginalized backgrounds.

>Supergirl, John Stewart, Extraño, Vixen, Katana and Rene Montoya are all named as DC characters included in the story.
Except Cassandra Cain.
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>>98049364
>The American Way
i bought that trade for 5 dollars! it's a damn fine book that shows how racial issues worked back in the day.
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>>98054071
>The miniseries aims to reexamine key parts of DC Comics history, now told through the lens of characters from minority and marginalized background

I’m surprised no one is talking about how this will firmly restablish a Rebirth-era timeline for the DCU. Kind of my big take away.
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>>98049618
>>98049658
Mystik U came out already? Damn, I've been out of the loop. And it wasn't that good?
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>>98054180
It came out. It wasn't that good, but it wasn't that bad either. It will probably be like the Betty Veronica Ivy Harley book where it takes a while to get going because lolDini
I was surprised they went with the Indian head dot beam joke
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>>98054255
Wait, Dini was involved? I thought it was someone new? Eh, I honestly don't care for his Zee.
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>>98049212
>Extraño

What? They couldn't think of any other male gay characters? Or is he just there to die?
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>>98054088
There's a sequel set ten years later that's going on right now, but the sales are super, super low for it.
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>>98051184
>Undercover Brother
>12 Years a Slave
thats range
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>>98054304
Nope, I got my stories confused. My bad, Dini wasn't in this one
Still, Mystik U is okay
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>>98054539
I will check it out this weekend then. The concept wasn't doing much for me, honestly. I actually do like the idea of a magic school in the DCU, but not played quite so straight.
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Vixen and Katana finally getting more spotlight. I'll read it for them.
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>>98054080
Good, Cass doesn't need to be involved in this mess. She may be illiterate, but she's always been well-taken care of, to call her marginalized would be ridiculous.
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>>98049803
>I actually see Alan as being pissed, almost pulling a Kingdom Come Superman on the White House, pissed because the brass wouldn't wait for his team to handle the invasion themselves.
I can see him being sad and angry, not agreeing with the decision but not directly acting against it because it's a military decision and all... until the media start saying Hiroshima and Nagasaki were military complexes.
Then he gets PISSED and storm the White House or the Pentagon or something, because if they are going to use mass-murder to scare Japan in submission then they are going to own-up to it and not clean their consciences lying to the American people.
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>>98054080
I'm surprised at Supergirl being there.
The writer remembers she's the actual last remaining vestige of the Kryptonian culture?
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>>98053161
>Exactly. They already tried to hook her up with a black guy once before in recent memory. Not only a black guy, a black guy in a wheel chair.

Wait a minute, who wrote that? Cause that's what Alan Moore thought of doing with Suprema (the Supergirl analogue) and Big Brother (the black guy in the wheelchair who builds giant robot suits)
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>>98054882
I could also see this as leading into the reason why the Congressional hearings started on the JSA
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>>98055052
The recent Rebirth stuff, I think.
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>>98055075
Yeah, the JSA being pissed and probably deciding that now the war was done it was time to clean up home too, was probably another nail in their coffin-
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John Ridley not having major comic work worries me but I'm cool with the premise.

Supergirl sticks out from that list though

Hope John gets a personality
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>>98055052
>>98055090
No, I was referring to New52. It was really late in the run, after the whole Red Lantern thing.
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>>98055187
>Supergirl sticks out from that list though
Last Survivor of her species.

Well, there are Kal and Zod, too, but Kal is de facto an Earthling and Zod is Zod.

So, yeah. She's ultra-minority.
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>First the got the Bendis-
This looks like a terrible idea to me, but Idgaf about modern cape comics anyway.
And it will be surrounded the rug and forgotten before the ink dries.
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>>98055413
>swept under
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>>98049212

>analyze iconic DC moments

so what do they got besides "what about brown skin"?
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>>98054435
He had a co writer for both and in the case of twelve years McQueen didn't even get a credit for it despite him and Ridley working together on it and for McQueen being the main force behind it. When Ridley one the Oscar for it there's an infamous moment where they cut to McQueen and he looks pissed
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>>98049630

He is.
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>>98051184
>That one Static Shock Episode with Toy Man
That was a good episode. Maybe he should write Static more.
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>>98049212
>now told through the lens of characters from minority and marginalized backgrounds
lol
>>98055443
All the Eisners. ALL OF THEM SHITLORD!
>>98055464
>When Ridley one the Oscar for it there's an infamous moment where they cut to McQueen and he looks pissed
lol
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>>98049257
>>98049276
>less than two minutes
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>>98049212
I fucking knew Bendis was a bad omen.
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>>98050076
He came back in Midnighter/Apollo
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>>98049952
>It would be nice to see non-white characters who aren't vaguely a stereotype in some way
That's the problem when you write them around their race and gender.

>>98049969
Because it's been two generations of "REE WHITEY GET DOWN IT'S YOUR FAULT". Any "examination of racial issues" always devolves into "WHITEY WAS/IS EVIL AND KEEPING US DOWN".
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>>98050209
>>98050133
>YET ANOTHER piece of media talking about identity politics
>hahaha /pol/ triggered btfo
You people are insufferable.

>>98050124
Yes, because they made it that way. I honest to goodness didn't used to see race in people and characters. But that's all changed.
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I'll give it a try just because Ridley co-wrote 12 years a slave. .
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>>98055974

>All the Eisners. ALL OF THEM SHITLORD!

you're just screaming, did you even understand the question?

>>98056106

I'm actually kinda upset that Ridley is taking him and they aren't letting Orlando use him again
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>>98056974
I just want the one Peruvian in DC to get some time to shine, so I'm hoping that whatever we get is good.
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>Hemo-Goblin was a vampire created by a white supremacist group to eliminate anyone who was not white by infecting them with AIDS.
>He later died of AIDS while in police custody.
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>>98054309
Orlando brought him back in Apollo and Midnighter.
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>>98053111
Kryptonians are a very small minority on Earth.
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>>98057183
I thought the wilstorm stuff was retconned out of the DC universe
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>>98054080
or mr terrific, vibe, or steel, or manitou raven or any of the JLA international like fire or ice or crimson fox or gypsy what im not fond of is they go for the superficial characters that everyone always goes too are john stewart and vixen how about fleshing out other DC characters of a minority
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>>98049659
>Homo-Goblin
surprised Marvel didn't use that name already tbqh
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>>98057514
When?
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>>98049212
>John Ridley
The dude from Step-Brothers?
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>>98057514
>>98057558
Midnighter and Apollo apparently exist in both the DC and Wildstorm universes, all of the other New 52 Wildstorm characters are presumably no longer in use.
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>>98057497
If that's the angle that they're going with then they've already done that before. Remember pre-52 when all Kryptonians were outlawed except Superman? Supergirl had to hide and really conceal her identity when on planet Earth and she even encountered other Kryptonians in hiding.
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Is this main universe canon or some sort of elseworlds thing? Like will I get shit like Jon Stewart with MLK and Katana at WW2?
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>>98049212
Will likely gargle balls but glad that Montoya's back.
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>>98049212

Could be interesting and/or good. Could be terrible. Who is drawing it? How are Crisis's going to be tackled?
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>>98049212
I hope it tackles more characters than just those listed, give me minority characters everyone sleeps on and never gives a chance.
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>>98059106
Bring back Bloodwynd.
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>>98057852
It's dealing with canon so it's gonna be Amazing man with MLK. >>98051843
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>>98056111
>That's the problem when you write them around their race and gender
That's what I mean. You can have tons of interesting characters of different ethnicities, but their ethnicity is just an aspect if their character. Like so many of the Milestone characters just happened to be blacks. Core aspects of Static's stories might change if he were white, but the stories would stay the same for the most part because it's about "teenagers in the inner city get superpowers and how it fucks with their lives".
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>>98057529
>Homo-Goblin is a Green Goblin off-shoot that only goes after Peter because he has a nice ass, not because of any personal beef
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>>98049212
If they were doing this in 2005 I would have cheered. What is the point of a secret history when there's only 5 years of history to go through?
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>>98051376
Marvel dodged a bullet.

>from /tv/ a abc corporate person was posting deets and answering qs awhile back which mention Ridley's American Crime
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>>98059261

Yeah, would really help them if we had a History of the DC Universe to compare/contrast

i think they threw away that 5 years of history thing from nu52 though
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>>98049659
The original New Guardians run would read like a parody if it was written these days. It's about a group of humans the Maltusians described as the "next phase of man" and you have them turning into shit like RAM who is made of electronics or the Abbo who left her body behind to become a part of the "dream". Main villain of the series is a South African guy back when apartheid was still pretty huge and would turn into a psuedo devil with his Maltusion induced ascendance and kept calling everyone lesser races or kaffirs.
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>>98057518
>manitou raven

I mean, I loved Raven in his very limited time on the Justice League Elite, but pretty doubtful most people have even heard of him. I'm surprised they even brought Extrano out again.
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>>98059261

why do you care if you clearly don't read the comics?
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>>98059412
Also, Snowflame.
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>>98059446
I'm actually shocked that Major Disaster appeared in Wonder Woman this week. I admit to only knowing about him through Kelly's JLA though.
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Why do people get mad when something like this is announced, but rejoice for shit like the Mera miniseries and Batman/Wonder woman?
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>>98049969
Because it’s the same message over and over again and nobody wants to do anything different. How many stories explore the racism that marginalized groups have for each other? Wouldn’t you agree a story exploring the racism between black and latino gangs have for each other could be interesting?
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>>98059691
>racism between black and latino gangs

Impossible. All Pocs of color live in hegemonic harmony with each other.
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>>98050209
Shouldn’t you be lecturing how only white people can be racist?
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>>98049869
Based
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>>98059691
>Because it’s the same message over and over again
Yet it never sticks.
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>>98059730
It’s so interesting that for all the talk about being woke, these idiots can’t understand that POC are perfectly capable of having bigoted opinions of their own.
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>>98057178

so he's just a normal AIDS patient that they gave a costume?
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>>98059850
Priest had it figured out nearly 16 years ago
>The problem with race and popular media is this in most every "black" movie or "black street" music CD you'll see or hear, there is some hostility directed towards whites. Now, were I a white male, I certainly wouldn't want to spend eight bucks to go see a film where white males are portrayed as stupid and the butt of every joke, or where I am made to feel guilty about things I had nothing to do with, and prejudices I don't actually have.

>That is my pet peeve with a lot of black film and black comedians it's all White People Bashing, and it limits our opportunities. In addition to the assumption that PANTHER may be about dusty hungry kids in the desert, or that the lead character may not be someone the reader can identify with, it is possible we are also burdened with the reflexive instinct that PANTHER— by virtue of its being a "black" book— is somehow hostile to whites.
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>>98051843

did they ever bring him back?

ah man I fucking miss the JSA. shit was fucking comfy.
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>>98060085
Let’s see how fast it takes someone in this thread to call Priest an Uncle Tom.
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>>98060001
No he's a vampire that is deliberately infected with HIV.
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>>98059656
Probably because nobody expects anything with gravitas or nuance to come out of vanity projects like this. At least people know what to expect from comics about Aquaman's wife and Batman.
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>>98060174
>Vanity project
This is nowhere close to a vanity project.
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>>98060173
So, a normal AIDS patient.
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>>98060152
Hey buddy. >>98059961
Clearly priest just has some bigoted opinions about black entertainment.
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>>98060264
That guy wasn't saying anything like "Priest is an Uncle Tom".
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>>98060283
He's right tho, black people cann have prejudices against black people and I guess Priest is no different. Kinda sad really, writing off the work of so many black actors, writers, and comedians all because of his own bigotry.
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Would anyone like a storytime of the first issue of "The American Way"?
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>>98060442
Sure
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>>98060666
Poor Amber in the sequel
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>>98060705

The American Way 01 (2006) (Digital).cbz
http://www9.zippyshare.com/v/PO8VdBbI/file.html
The American Way 02 (2006) (Digital).cbz
http://www9.zippyshare.com/v/qtXXEvPK/file.html
The American Way 03 (2006) (Digital).cbz
http://www9.zippyshare.com/v/OXJaDCh0/file.html
The American Way 04 (2006) (Digital).cbz
http://www9.zippyshare.com/v/JDsk3FRK/file.html
The American Way 05 (2006) (Digital).cbz
http://www9.zippyshare.com/v/pmYPBuxE/file.html
The American Way 06 (2006) (Digital).cbz
http://www9.zippyshare.com/v/45j2JIYh/file.html
The American Way 07 (2006) (Digital).cbz
http://www9.zippyshare.com/v/EEiDW9pg/file.html
The American Way 08 (2006) (Digital).cbz
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>>98060853
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>>98049276
>>Peter Spider is the beloved mascot of the city
>>Miles Spider is the hated otherized menace who has to stealth around
i love this
i fucking love this
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>>98060973
End of issue #1
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>>98060994
I think continuing in a new thread is better (also please include Those Above and Below).
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>>98060994
Promising start.
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Fuck yea, haven't read American way in ages, I'm juicing cunts
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>>98049451
Why would you assume this is even about actual historical events when it's specifically dealing with the history of the DCU?
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>>98063861
You think we are going to finally see the black woman's perspective on the Crisis on Infinite Earth?
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>>98060174
One is being written by an actual writer with experience of writing good comics. From the other two, one is being written by an artist and the other is Abnett.
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>>98050063

>>”Omg I’m just feeling so attacked right now”

So it's okay when liberal special snowflakes use this for justification for everything?

>>98050075
>>98050133
>>98052016

So I'm a casual for pointing out Marvel's sales numbers are low right now? You guys have no argument. "IT" in that post I'm refering to is identity politics and social justice in comics. I don't know what say THAT is a thing and THAT is driving Marvel's sales makes me a casual, but it shows you have typical 4chan tier reading comprehension and don't read what someone's replying too.
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>>98063906

>I don't remember bout shit that happened and shit but it's like racist and shit prolly and some shieettt.
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>>98049212
>Extraño
Neat
>>98049538
How does this reek of hatred? Some groups were historically marginalized, and it'd be interesting to see how that plays out in the DCU.
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>>98049212
I will give it a fIr shot but I ain't getting my hopes up.
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Anyone else interested for Renee in this?
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>>98049618
I have only read the first issue of that so far but I don't have my hopes up for 2 main reasons.
>Magic and mystic with a k is painful to read
>they sent the most interesting character home in the first issue
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>>98049212
>DC in D.C.” event
The who in the what now?
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>>98049212
As long as it isn't all "fuck whitey" this is fine.

But seriously DC has better gay characters than fucking Extrano.
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>>98049595
Are you illiterate?
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>>98064406
Will using Extrano oneday bring the return of Snow Flame?
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>>98060085
I fucking love Christopher Priest.
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>>98064157
Ollie is the ultimate libtard. He's allowed to have over the top leftist opinions.

The oddest thing is how him and the fascist leader type Batman in DKR get along
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>Supergirl
Finally, we'll get to understand the history of oppression in the DC universe through the perspective of an attractive white woman.
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>>98057514
Wildstorn has its own imprint again, but Wildstorm characters are still active in the DCU.
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>>98049212
Wasn't there some justice league issue cancled for "political fatigue"?
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>>98064045
Just admit you don't know anything about comics, m8.
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>>98049969
And yet everybody loved hidden figures.
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>>98064045
>So I'm a casual for pointing out Marvel's sales numbers are low right now?

Yes, because anyone can point out Marvel's sales numbers are low. Knowing what Marvel's problems have actually been over the last 8-11 years is a different thing and it doesn't mean spouting buzzphrases you learned from a Youtube celebrity.
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>>98052633
what
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run
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>>98065151
Looks like it's from Ostrander's.
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>>98065158
Why is Marvel too stupid to get Ostrander to write Thunderbolts?
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>>98049212
DC... I love you
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>Those character choices.
DC has a lot of interesting minority and "disenfranchised"("marginalized") characters who have amazing stories, but.. I wouldn't be using any that Ridley has picked because none of them fit that box.

Why not bring back Mia Deardon, who had to not only prostitute to survive, but was also HIV+ because of it? Or Bunker, the flamboyant hispanic Mexican kid who found himself on the Titans? Or even someone like Vibe, which could use another push after his New 52 stuff and prominence on The Flash.
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"The Many Shades of Heroism: DC Heroes Through the African-American Lens” panel will start in ~2 hours. Where is the YouTube stream link for this?
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>>98066864
Found it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkKKh6_sXPQ
Ridley's panel will begin in a few minutes.
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>>98054038
You can masturbate another person. It's called hand stuff. Self masturbation is just more common
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>>98065405
Mia deardon having HIV was a terrible idea.
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>>98064406
Orlando's Extraño was fine
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>>98067934
Ridley just came on
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>>98068241
Here we go
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Also at the panel is Denys Cowan. For those who are watching the livestream please report back on what Ridley said.
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>>98068414
So far they've only talked about Black Lightning.
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>John Ridley declines talking about his new DC comic series (grrrr....)
So the panel so far (and the previous) is nothing but DCTV shilling.
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>>98050444
Still better than what we have now.
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>>98064155
Yeah I don’t remember if she even showed up in New 52? She sure hasn’t been in Rebirth. Either way good to see her back.
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>>98069117
She was in Manapul's Detective Comics run.
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>>98065405
I was actually hoping they used Vibe.
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>>98069117
>>98069264
And she showed up in Rebirth Tec
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>>98063906
Really, for all the shit that gets changed around during all the various Crises, has anyone ever tackled a story about the average citizens getting their lives completely re-arranged?

>Be wealthy and loved, with a wife and kids, interacting merrily with heroes as they come and go pre-Crisis
>Crisis happens
>Become unloved drug addicted janitor who gets killed of by a D-list villain
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>>98065329
Ostrander doesn't want to write for the Big Two at all these days. Dude's too old and broken to worry about deadlines.
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>>98059459
Oh I'm sorry, did they suddenly bring the golden age heroes back into continuity and I missed it? Or are you just talking about the half-hearted references to old JSA characters in Johns' continuity-fuckery that doesn't actually change anything about the established history of the post-Rebirth DCU?

When they publish the 76 year history of superheroes in the DCU let me know.
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>>98070216
They're building up to a JSA book ya knobhead
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>>98052633
>God bullying Spectre

This is kinda funny. If i had powers i would be just as retarded as Spectre is sometimes so seeing him get his shit kicked in is amusing to me.
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>>98064572
He's a rightie in that universe.
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>>98070250
Good and they better not fuck it up
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Can't wait to see a transgender Muslim's view of Knightfall.
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>The miniseries aims to reexamine key parts of DC Comics history, now told through the lens of characters from minority and marginalized backgrounds.
Holy fucking shit.
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>>98051843
Where the fuck was Superman during Katrina?
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>>98049212
>minority and marginalized backgrounds
>supergirl

wait what
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>>98073114
illegal immigrant from a now not-existing nation
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>>98073114
Everyone knows that white women think of themselves as the most oppressed of them all.
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>>98073114
They needed another recognizable character other than John Stewart so sales wouldn't completely tank
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>>98049212
bump
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Niggers are over represented in comics, not under




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