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I saw this last night. Ask me anything
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Should I eat lunch now or wait fifteen minutes?
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how triggered is /co gonna be the next month?
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>>98640888

What snacks did you get?

Reese’s peices? Buncha crunch?
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>>98640909
Drink a protein shake

>>98640916
If you get triggered by anything with a black lead a lot but if you want to enjoy good /co/ material not much

>>98640917
I didn't get shit
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I'm on o shitty third world country for work and getting to the next city with a theater woul be a bitch and the movie would be dubbed, should I do it or wait for blu-ray?
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>>98641009
Wait for blu ray
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>>98640888
Wuz we kangz?
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>>98640888
Any black people in the movie?
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>>98640888
Were you the only white guy in the theater?
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>>98640888
Does the movie explicitly show Wakandians as xenophobic and overly nationalistic?
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How much of the sound track is rap/hip-hop?
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>>98640888
How's the CGI?
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>>98640888
WE?
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>>98640888

Was it a bog standard Marvel movie, but with a majority black cast?
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>>98643757
Dude it's a movement not a movie
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>>98643705
yes

>>98643734
Pretty good

>>98643757
It was pretty much it's own thing and it's own style
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>>98640888
How would you rank it amongst the solo MCU movies?
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>>98645161
top tier
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>>98645173
>>98645122
Shill confirmed.
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Just saw it.

Holy mother of Bast.
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>>98645122
>It was pretty much it's own thing and it's own style

I dont believe you, thor raknarok and guardians of the galaxy felt almost like the exact same movie with different actors

A shiny action flick with some light comedy, it was still decent, but marvel movies have become too formulaic
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>>98640888

How many years do you think it will take before we can have an honest discussion about this movie on /co/?
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>>98640888
is it better than DC's the dark turd?
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>>98645290
>it can't be good or else you're a shill
/pol/ logic
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>>98640888

Answer this >>98643732
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>>98645941
Not the same anon, but 1-2 years at least. People are going to be talk about it for all the wrong reasons.
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>>98645941
Never because it's been hijacked by politics.
It's always going to be "that movie that was billed as a social rights movement"
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>>98640888
Would you say it has a palpable anti white feeling? Like, this is how blacks would be living today if it wasn't for whitey?
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>>98645941
If its decent we will have actual fucking discussions here, if we can discuss SU we can discuss anything

If its shit, then itll be we wuz posting ad nauseum
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>>98640888
If you watched it in 3D: is it worth it, or should I watch the 2D, as usual?
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>>98640888
Is it actually good?
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>>98646014
This movie so doesn't care about even mentionning white people as a thing that exist, it's not even funny.

Like, they talk about how black people in the world are struggling, it's central to the story, but the fact that white people are responsible for it is a sideline. Barely even mentionned.

It's not about how whitey is evil, (in fact Ross is there and has a nice moment) it's about how black people could use their help, and Wakanda has to choose.
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>>98646097
>This movie so doesn't care about even mentionning white people as a thing that exist, it's not even funny.
I was from Asia. Believe me, you white people don't exist. You just think you are more numerous than you actually are.
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>>98646097
M8 Shuri literally says "Good morning, colonizer" to Ross.
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is it better than the winter soldier?

also post credits
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>>98646440
Yes, and it's a joke. In one scene.
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>>98646475
No

Mid credits is T'challa at the UN counter-signalling against Trump. "In times of crisis leaders build bridges not barriers". Post credits is Bucky emerging from a mud hut with some African kids calling him White Wolf. Shuri says "You have much to learn Sgt Barnes".
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>>98645940
What about winter soldier?
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>>98646440
Okay so I will just call black strangers 'Slave'. Because it's a joke.
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>>98640888
Does the bad guy get a bulkier gorilla suit? Having him just be Yellow Black Panther looks gay as hell.

Also how was Andy Serkis?
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>>98646521
meant for >>98646503
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>>98646521
>colonizer
position of power, one that is chosen
>slave
forced place, complete lack of power

You know, somehow I don't see a comparison.
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>>98646530
Man Ape is a different character who turns out to be a reluctant ally. He's just a tall guy with fur clothes. Killmonger stays as yellow black panther.
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>>98646508
>bridges not barriers

Isn't that what Pope Francis said IRL?
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>>98646542
Shuri was in the position of power in that scene, since they were in her homeland. She was using his white guilt as a weapon to make him feel bad for absolutely no reason.
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>>98646558

Why the fuck would Wakandans even use such a jab when they weren't colonized and did jack fucking shit to help those that were?
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>>98646576
and she said it to an American, who never colonised anything in Africa.
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>>98646558
And so? Bringing up the negative shit a foreigner's country has done is no longer fair?
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>>98646631
t. somebody that's never interacted with foreigners in real life.
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>>98640888
Is Killmonger as fucking boring as he looks?
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>>98640888
Did the movie at least play it serious for once?
Or was it the usual affair of a lil too much comedy attempts. I don't wanna see another Thor Ragnarok
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>>98646624

So she was judging him based on the color of his skin?

>>98646631

It's a bit tone deaf, yes. Especially since a Wakandan has no right to take any kind of moral high ground as far as that topic is concerned.
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>>98646631
I should have said ancestors instead of country, just clarifying.
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>>98640888
Was it woke and bae?
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>>98646097
>Black people in the world are struggling

And it's entirely their own fault.
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>>98646656
>>98646631
Would you greet a German saying "Hello Nazi" ? or an Italian with "Hello fascist" ? Or an Arab with "Hello terrorist"? Or a Japanese person with "Hello Raper of Nanking"?
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>>98646640
You've been an ambassador before? Its not like she had any need to worry.
>>98646576
Because she knows that if Wakanda didn't have the power that it did, they would have done the same thing to her.
>did jack fucking shit to help those that were?
Not helping and actively terrorizing are not comparable.
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How was Andy Serkis as the white guy?
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Does ross get cucked?
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>>98646694
You don't need to be an ambassador to meet foreign people. Go outside or any major city. Or on a vacation overseas.
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>>98640888
>28 replies in talkback
>literally cannot go 14 replies without politics

inb4 “b-but THEY started it!!!1!”

/tv/ needs to fucking go.
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>>98646684
If I were a Jew, facing one jack ass of a leader, then sure, why not?
>or an Italian with "Hello fascist"
If I were Ethiopian with the above scenerio, all fair
>Or an Arab with "Hello terrorist"
Arabs terrorize other Arabs, and terror attacks from the middle east on western countries is retaliation based on past aggressions
>Or a Japanese person with "Hello Raper of Nanking"
Thats one event, but if I were an old Chinese who survived, with the above scenario, its fair.
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>>98646734
Meeting random foreigners and meeting government leaders are two different things. She didn't address some random white guy.
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>>98646753
But she is Wakandan aka, Just as bad as the White Colonialists.

This is like a Zulu saying "You British people Oppressed us"

And if you're a South African you know that's stupid.
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>>98646776
Wankandans never oppressed other Africans, so its not comparable.
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>>98646753
>Thats one event, but if I were an old Chinese who survived, with the above scenario, its fair.
So had Shuri survived colonisation? No she wasn't even alive for the end of Apartheid so what does she have to worry about?

>>98646770
You/he didn't say 'leaders' or 'officials'. He said >>98646631
>And so? Bringing up the negative shit a foreigner's country has done is no longer fair?
>a foreigners
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>>98646694

>Because she knows that if Wakanda didn't have the power that it did, they would have done the same thing to her.

So she's insulting him based on a hypothetical that didn't even happen? That just makes her out to be even more of a needlessly caustic asshole. And the guy's American, it's highly unlikely his country would have held a colony in east Africa even if Wakanda wasn't a secretive hidden powerhouse.

>Not helping and actively terrorizing are not comparable.

Not helping when you have the power and capacity to help is still pretty fucking shitty. Let me reiterate: no Wakandan has any moral high ground when it comes to criticizing anything that happened to Africa when they themselves could have nigh-effortlessly prevented it from happening through superior force and technology. Pretending to care about any nation or people other than their own when historically that hasn't been the case, simply for a convenient jab at another person based on the color of their skin or country of origin, is extraordinarily childish.
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>>98646795
Neither did the British Empire.
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>>98646838
HA
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>>98646026
>implying there won't be a dozen KANGZ threads even if it's good
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>>98646853
Being a second class citizen that gives you dramatic improvements over your previous life as a tribal =/= opression.

Ask the Zulus. Dudes profited the most off the British Empire out of any Bantu peoples.

They even got away with exterminating the Bushmen.
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>>98646726
Fun.

>>98646730
No?
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>>98640888
Was it a good action movie?

>>98640945
>He didn't get raisinettes.
You monster.
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>>98640888
on a scale from 1 to 10, with one being shit and ten being great, where would you put it? also where would you put Iron Man and Winter Soldier, just for comparisons sake.
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>>98646938
8/10.

Winter Soldier is technically better, but I like it less than this. Same for Iron man.
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>>98646938
If you can get over some of the ridiculous shit, like battle rhinos fighting alongside VTOL jets, then 7 to IM1 and CAWS which are 10s (not 10/10 movies but the best Marvel movies).

Not a revolutionary game changing piece of cinema like the hype says but still enjoyable.
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Stan Lee Cameo?
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>>98647476
He takes T'Challa's chips at the casino.
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>>98646475
Not quite, but it's definitely the best thing Marvel has put out since then.

OP is right: it remains consistently self-contained throughout and strives to be its own thing to quite a bit of success. Wakandan culture feels vibrant and alive, the supporting cast do a good job of filling things out and, perhaps most tellingly of all, the humour hits its marks without ever bogging the plot down.

It definitely feels as if they allowed Coogler to just work his magic with the film with minimal interference. The sense of a lack of executive meddling is almost palpable.
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>>98646938
8/10

Definitely in the upper echelon of the MCU, but I would say it falls beneath Iron Man 1, The Winter Soldier and, potentially, GOTG.
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>>98647725

What's the musical score like?
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>>98647739
a lot of tribal and orchestral stuff. I don't think I noticed any rape or hip hop at all in the Wakandan setting, and it was used sparingly in the American setting. Not the impenetrable fog of "AYO HOL UP" /pol/ wanted it to be, definitely.
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>>98647739
I was gonna ask the same. I like the music in the trailer but I won't see it unless the whole movie has a soundtrack like that
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>>98647759

So is it just a case of the advertising being out of touch with the actual product?
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>>98640888
is killmonger literally malcom x
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>>98647759
Does anyone actually say "Ayo hol up"?
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>>98647759
>don't think I noticed any rape

Well, it is a PG-13 movie.
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>>98647739
It's pretty obvious that they used the African singing from District 9 in the temp music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD8LcP3m8fg

There's some hip hop music in the OST. There's even Hangover by PSY and Snoop Dogg in there.
The music they chose for the end credits felt really out of place, I think it was Rihanna or something.
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>>98647787
Pretty much, yeah. All the hip hop and rap used in the advertising is relegated to the soundtrack inspired by the movie. Everything else is standard Marvel orchestral fare with some tribal elements thrown in for flavour.

>>98647794
No, but Shuri does say "WHAT ARE THOOOOOSE" at T'challa's sandals early in the film.
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>>98647853
>but Shuri does say "WHAT ARE THOOOOOSE" at T'challa's sandals early in the film.
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Who do you think will be the fav favourite character?
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>>98647933
I balked a bit too, but they were clearly trying to portray Shuri as someone who was infatuated with the world outside of Wakanda right down to the point where she dressed in more westernised outfits and was implied to modify her Wakandan garments.
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>>98647948
M'baku was a bro and turned out to be a fan favourite in my audience

Other than that, I think people really enjoyed the head Dora Milaje and, of course, Klaw.
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>>98647759
Isn't the entire soundtrack disc supposed to be rap and hip hop?
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>>98640888
What protist is known for causing Eel grass decline in California?
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I'm a little disappointed that Bucky is the White Wolf. T'Challa breaking a centuries-long tradition and revealing Wakanda to the world was the perfect set-up for Hunter to go nuclear.
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>>98640888
Any WE WUZ KANGZ lines?
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>>98647981
He was my favourite, certainly. Loved the ape tribe and their whole mountainous aesthetic in general.
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Why no Hunter?
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>>98649983
Not WE WUZ KANGZ, but Killmonger's whole villainous motive is firmly rooted in the idea that Wakandans are living it large in the middle of nowhere while black people everywhere are oppressed and impoverished.

And his evil plan involves arming black people with Vibranium so they can rise up and take over the world.

Aside from Killmonger, I guess Shuri calls Everett "coloniser" once.
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How were the action scenes?
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>>98646881
I honestly thought Pygmies just died off for the longest time. Real life Hobbits and they fucking eat most of em...
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>>98649888
Holy shit is that a boring development. Where could they even go with that honestly? Who's gonna give a shit?

10/10 mad, hunter was my favorite character
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>>98640888
Were you already a fan of the characters/comic? Does it hold up any well as an adaptation?

>>98646548
>fur clothes
Well it's SOMETHING

Good to know the soundtrack isn't full of hippity-hoppity crap, it felt really off in the trailers.
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>>98649888
I think it was just a nod to Black Panther comics fans calling him the white wolf
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>>98653504
What was the music like? Was it like rock, or orchestral with heavy African themes?
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>>98646631
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

You judge people by THEIR OWN actions, not someone else's.
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>>98653842
think taiko drums but african with the occasional djembe slap

and AuuuUUUuUUUUUUUAaAAAAAAAaaaAAAA african vocals
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>>98646657
This "sins of the father" bullshit has no place in a civilized society.
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>>98653883
Neato. Sounds orgasmic. Literally.

OOOOHHHHNNNN! OOOOOOOHHHHHNNNN! I'M CUHUMMING![/spioler]

Infinitely better than all of that hippity-hoppity crap. We dodged a bullet by not getting this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2u3hHc0Icc
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>>98654069
>Uckers is a two- or four-player board game traditionally played in the Royal Navy and has spread to many of the other arms of the UK Armed Forces as well as to, mainly Commonwealth Forces. ... Most RAAF crew rooms feature uckers boards also.
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>>98646753
Muslims blow shit up cause you are not Muslim. Country's and people that have never lead a war or colonized also get blown up. Muslims who blow things up straight up tell you this.
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>>98646730
No, nikki isnt part of this movie
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>>98645940
>thor raknarok and guardians of the galaxy felt almost like the exact same movie with different actors
True ... but it didn't feel much of anything like Thor I and Thor II.
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>>98654891
That is not a bad thing

>someone that actually saw Dark World
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>>98640888
Europoor here, came out of this movie yesterday. It was pretty good, nowhere near as amazing as the reviews make out, but then they were all gonna have that racial bias anyway.

There were a few plot holes and bizarre leaps in logic, a bit of a character overload (I started getting certain characters mixed up in terms of names/motive because they keep switching outfits and locations at the drop of a hat) and too much of the film's conflict relies on you knowing who Klaw is - a character who had maybe 5 minutes screentime in AoU - because he's given no proper introduction and the movie just assumes everybody knows him.

The set pieces were cool, the casino sequence is ten times better than TLJ, although the soundtrack was a very odd mishmash of stereotypical African jungle drums and hip hop. It feels like they just threw all the things they think black people like together in a pot without regard for matching it to the visuals and decided 'fuck it, that'll do.' So you have scenes in a London museum accompanied by fucking taiko. It's very odd.

I can also say that if there's anyone here who's particularly opposed to a black cast (which, let's be honest, there are) then this is NOT going to go down well with them at ALL, it leans into the Africa shit HARD. You have people with plates in lips, beads are used for communication, talk of slavery and empowering blacks the world over so they can rule - it's tremendously on the nose.

So yeah, dazzling and charming, but has a lot of aspects to improve on. Doesn't unseat Guardians or Avengers 1 for me. 7/10.
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How is All The Stars used? I really like that song and I hope it's used in a appropriate scene.
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>>98643732
The large majority if I recall
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>>98647948
>>98647981
Yeah Klaw, for me was the most unexpectedly entertaining character in the film, with M'Baku as a close second but for different reasons.
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>>98655062
>too much of the film's conflict relies on you knowing who Klaw is
Does he go proper supervillain at all or is he still just random criminal #3?
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>>98655142
He's the antagonist for most of the film's first half but mostly sort of dodders about screaming in glee and making pop culture references. Then in the final act Killmonger shoots him and takes on the role of villain.
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>>98654913
>That is not a bad thing
I agree.
>>someone that actually saw Dark World
And I feel your pain, as well.
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>>98655214
End of the first act, not final act
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>>98654913
I share the same feelings. im sorry
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>>98655243
I meant second half, my bad. I always split movies in two in my head.
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>>98655214
So, no costume, no living sound, no weapon hand? Meh.
Thanks though.
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>>98655411
You see him shooting soundblasts out of his mechanical hand in the trailer. Why would you make up bullshit like this when anyone can see that it's wrong?
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>>98655062
>because he's given no proper introduction and the movie just assumes everybody knows him.
He's introduced in the first five minutes of the movie. they tell you who he is, what he did to Wakanda, and why.
You speak of plot holes but you can't follow an introductory resume?
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Was it quippy?
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>>98655535
Nah. The humor is very inline with each character.

Klaue and M'Baku steal the show. Mostly cause Klaue is batshit insane and doesn't take anything seriously (while everyone around him does) and M'Baku likes to fuck with people cause he's a big dude and he gives no fucks what happens to outsiders.
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>>98640888
I'm going to see this with two of my cousins, who are mulatto. Will it be awkward viewing? I heard that the antagonist was a black supremacist or something.
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>>98655597
>the antagonist
You have your answer
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>>98646097
>Like, they talk about how black people in the world are struggling, it's central to the story
That sounds really terrible for believability, as well as pretty racists. "Blacks" seeing themselves as one people is a distinctly American phenomenon. Ask an Ethiopian if he feels kinship with his "black brothers" in America- or South Africa- and he'd probably laugh in your face.
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Why didn't you make this thread on /tv/?
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>>98655617

Yeah, this is one of the disconnects with this film.
It's easy for american blacks to think that all other blacks are the same since they have no idea on what their exact identity is, but there are africans who could give 2 shits what happens to other africans that aren't in their particular ethnic group
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>>98655617
Yes and no.

There is an idea of one-ness amongst african folks as well. And even moreso in the diaspora, not just America.

But as far as the movie is concerned, Wakanda is operating on a very old tribalistic idea of "they're not like us", which africa still has, while Killmonger comes from an environment where blacks from everywhere are mixed up and see themselves as one community, which is something people do everywhere, including Africa.

It's kind of an old views VS new views kinda thing.
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>>98655466
Not making bullshit up at all. Watched the trailer like, once and probably missed it.
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>>98655679
Hell, that's what the story is about. to stop seeing each other as different. And not just about black people desu.
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>>98655679
>But as far as the movie is concerned, Wakanda is operating on a very old tribalistic idea of "they're not like us", which africa still has, while Killmonger comes from an environment where blacks from everywhere are mixed up and see themselves as one community, which is something people do everywhere, including Africa.
That would actually be interesting, Kilmonger seeing things from a very American point of view (because he was raised there and is culturally an American, as much as he'll deny it) to the complete bafflement of an actual ethnic group from East Africa who see such a perception as alien. In the same way a Hungarian would probably scoff at the idea that they should feel any kinship with a Russian or Georgian just because they're all Caucasian. But I have a feeling that's not actually how it's played, or else how would he even gather support?
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>>98655763
>(because he was raised there and is culturally an American, as much as he'll deny i
He doesnt though.
In fact, he reclaims his birthright only as a means to achieve his real goal, which is to arm black people from around the world to create a bloody revolution. His wakandan heritage is just a tool, because these people forsake him, and fucked up his life, so he doesn't like them. he would have loved to be an actual Wakandan, but things turned sour.

As for Wakanda, you can understand their position too. They are asked to reconsider their idea of identity, and what their tech can do for others, which is not easy.

Killmonger gets power through ritual fight, and also because one of the tribes agrees with his ideas.

Y'know what, watch the movie instead of asssuming shit like "durr it's simplistic and racist"
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Non-american press isn't that kind on Black Panther.
It will flop
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>>98656150
>trusting allocine for anything
>implying 3,5/5 is bad
>thinking people wont go see it anyway
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I watched it last night and it irritated the fuck out of me.

[/Spoiler]
Okoye's derp of a boyfriend/husband decides to side with Killmonger because he wants to fight the outside world. Despite the fact that he was supposed to be bestfriends with T'challa? And then he surrenders because his wife beat him.

Then there's the ritual fighting. M'baka was ok because they knew this guy. But Killmonger just waltzes in and they're " OK you're our leader now " Fuck what? Someone says this guy is a killer assassin, the Wakandans want to live in peace. But even if Killmonger had legitimate claim, how about they have a think first before handing over their all-powerful nation to a maniac.

And he shouldn't even have existed if T'Chaka DIDNT just leave. Where was the kid's mom? Why didnt they leave someone to do watch over the kid. Hell, if they just took his dad, at least he wouldnt think Wakandans murdered him.

And Killmonger wasn't even a real bad guy! He got painted like a victim of circumstances and they just used that to drive his character. He doesnt have any real ambitions. All he wanted to do was fuck over Wakanda and maybe the world. But when he is close to dying he doesnt want to live even after TChalla offered to heal him. All that talk about avenging his brothers and sisters and his people and he really didnt give a fuck aside from sticking it to Wakanda.
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>>98640888
I was listening to NPR and there was this 35+ year old black guy on and he was happy that this movie came out but he was complaining as a child he couldn't dress up as spiderman because he was black.
Why do people still pull this shit?
Why do people still try to find reasons to make themselves upset even when they get what they want.
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>people will pay money for this
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>>98656206
>I cannot understand a popcorn movie
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>>98656231
Yeah, the cgi and green screen are kinda bad.
Marvel has a recurring problem with that
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>>98656235
Thor 3 was a popcorn movie. But Chris Hemsworth made me care about Thor no matter how out of character he was.

I dont know if its the accent but I just cannot give a shit about TChalla. I did give a shit about Killmonger but then he went full autism by accepting death. Bitch you killed a lot of people and youve got no honor aside from saying you wanted to help your "people". He wouldve been an interesting villain, but then again when has Marvel ever given is that? Or was having Baron Mordo as a future alive villain too much "diversity".
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>>98656362
Maybe it's just you then. I had no issue caring about him and his weight.

Same for the other characters. The female ones especially;
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>>98656362
fu*k off racist
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>>98655520
>You speak of plot holes but you can't follow an introductory resume?
You're right, he must be a racist.
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>>98656231
Some director made a criticism that Marvel villains are too often the hero, but evil, Antman/yellow jacket, hulk/abomination, thor/loki, ironman/stane. This isn't helping.
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>>98656231
Nah, people are paying money for a 2 hour long film, not a 30 second loop of a fight sequence
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>>98656724
ok
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>>98656778
I like how you don't post the tracking shot of Okoye kicking ass just a second after that.
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>>98656808
You tell that racist nazi! How dare he cherry pick like that?
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>>98656920
It's a troll.

Don't encourage.
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>>98655617
In the film's defense, most of the "all blacks should stand together" rhetoric comes from Killmonger, who grew up as a part of the Wakandan bloodline living as an African-American.

T'challa himself and the other Wakandan main characters are generally more concerned with the idea of helping ALL people using their resources regardless of race.
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>>98657366
>T'challa himself and the other Wakandan main characters are generally more concerned with the idea of helping ALL people using their resources regardless of race.
It's heavily implied that it's primarily about blacks though.

>Nakia wants to go back to help african people who are persecuted
>T'Challa decides to install the Wakandan help center in a black neighborhood in America (although that particular building has special significance as well)
>that kid who asks him who he is with awe and inspiration

I mean, you are definitely right in what you say, but the black/african angle is VERY present.
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>>98656778

lol, only good part of this fight is the pan up to okoye from the ground floor to where shes fighting
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>>98657623
I suspect it's because he has more experience with fight scenes. She generally moved much better than all other actors.

It's like Jackie Chan says. If the actor knows how to fight, you don't need to cut.
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>>98640888
I'm white, but I don't want to suck the black joy out of black people for seeing it too soon. When can I see it???
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How's the White sidekick?
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>>98640888
Tell me something...

What do you know about Wakanda?
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>>98657971
Nice. Appears something like 2/3rds into the movie, and has a little side mission to accomplish. He's cool.
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How many of my white bros wouldn't mind getting BLACKED by Nakia?
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>>98658060
His schtick is basically to act as a surrogate for the audience, he stumbles around Wakanda looking at in awe and is basically an observer to everything that's going on. He feels kind of out of place, but he does at least get one badass moment in the climax.
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>>98658060
Cool. Freeman is a great actor with incredible range. Do you think Everett Ross will be in future BP movies?
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Another person who just watched it.

>>98643732
A little bit? The soundtrack is the weakest aspect of the film, but I don't remember it having a lot of hip-hop tracks, or at least they kept it to scenes outside Africa. What ruins it is the loud annoying orchestra music that plays during dramatic moments.

>>98643757
The story feels generic at times, but story-wise it's one of Marvel's strongest so far. Overall it feels unique and has stakes without going "oh no he's gonna take over the world where are the avengers".

>>98645173
I guess somewhere near the top (for reference, I hated Ragnarok, loved GotG2 and thought Homecoming was meh

>>98646058
I watched it in 3D, but only because it was the only choice for IMAX. It's not worth it unless you were watching it on IMAX

>>98646530
Kilmonger is not Man Ape. M'Baku the Great Ape is his own character, and he makes gorilla noises.
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How political is the movie?
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>>98658154
Politics are at the centre of the antagonists' motive. He keeps going on about how whites have oppressed blacks for decades (slaves boarding a ship in chains is shown in a vision of sand) and his main plan is to ship Wakandan technology to blacks across the globe so they can rise up and start the world over with him at the centre of the empire. Doesn't get more overt than that.

Also Shuri casually refers to Ross as 'coloniser' once or twice.
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>>98658184
Well, at least he's portrayed as the villain and not the hero.

Funny thing about Shuri. I heard she gets colonized by Bucky.
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>>98646726
A better Joker than Leto.

>>98646914
It was a meh action movie. Ryan Coogler is a better storyteller than he is an action director.

>>98647739
>>98654069
The parts with African influence are the best, but the overdramatic orchestra that plays during important scenes feel dull and annoying, they feel like reused tracks from other Marvel movies.

>>98647791
Yes. His plan is literally "let's take over Wakanda so we can kill whitey"

>>98647933
To be fair, T'Challa's sandals were pretty bad.

>>98647948
My favorite turned out to be the guard captain lady Okoye.

>>98656362
I couldn't care about Thor at all during Ragnarok so I guess it's an agree to disagree thing.
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>>98657971
Ross is pretty chill. They clearly tried to make him more competent and reliable than his comic book counterpart. He's not quite as comical or high-strung as he was in Civil War, but he does get a few moments.

Comedy-wise, this was actually the most sparse MCU movie in a while. It wasn't a quipfest at all and the only jokes landed well without detracting from the narrative.
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>>98657971
I was afraid they were gonna kill him off in the third act but he came out of the plot alive and well. He's cool, gets a nice action scene and becomes friends with T'Challa's sister.

>>98658063
Gave me jungle fever.
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>>98640888
Should I watch it on Monday or wait until next weekend?
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>>98658245
Bucky is in a tent in Wakanda in the post credits scene, yeah. I can't remember how he got there or if it was ever explained, though.
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>>98646795
>he actually tried to justify each and every one whilst giving a nod on "they wuz innocent, fuck whiteys"

Left-wing racists like yourself are why Trump won.
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I'm a shitposter from /pol/ who just watched the movie. The only thing that felt preachy to me at all was the post-credits scene, where T'Challa talks about "building bridges, not barriers". I'm pretty sure Hillary Clinton used those exact words in some speech.

For the most part, it's not the racial movement that everyone's been expecting. The only one who wants to kill whitey is the villain. His leitmotif is hip hop, and it's the only hip hop you hear in the whole movie. It's a movie about unity, not black supremacy.
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>>98640888
Is this a good movie to watch tomorrow for my birthday if I'm not black?
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>>98658245
She's 16 and he's 105.

Never gonna happen.
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>>98659100
It's a reasonably fun Marvel movie. Ignore the idiots who are calling it a black movement.
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>>98640888
I’m disappointed black panther wasn’t released on father day. We missed out on a lot of black dads jokes




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