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So just found out tumblr is purging most nsfw stuff on their site, suggest you guys start archiving the few artists that are left on the site
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>>8275442
i mean don't you think that they will just move to another site?
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>>8275448
they are artists. my guess is about 70% will get mad and nuke their stuff from other places as well. they tend to do that at a drop of a hat. because artist reasons
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>>8275459
yea you got any statistics to prove that no so shut up dingus.
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>>8275448
No and they will get mad if someone dares to archive their shit to sad panda or something.
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Tumblr should have been abandoned long ago. Hard limiting the resolution of images is nuts.
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Any recommendations for software that can archive artists' tumblrs?
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>>8275442
good, I can't think of a single good artist who doesn't have their own website

if they can't afford their own site, they can't be that good

this will purge the gene pool of artists, chlorinate it a bit, and hopefully the general quality of art will improve as a result
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>>8275575
This. Tumblr is the worst thing to ever happen to porn. We'll be better off without it.
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>>8275549
yeah, it's called not being new and having them saved already

or a fucking booru where these artists will have their art uploaded by other people anyway
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>>8275588
Mate, manually downloading all the shit that I'm following would've taken me literal days. Fuck that shit. And if it's on boorus, then what's the problem? Obviously not everything is going to be on there.
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>>8275577
Tumblr is the worst thing to happen to a lot of things. That and twitter, can't wait til they're both fuckin gone
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>>8275461
Not that Anon, but I've seen artists effectively disappear from the internet many times in the past.
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>>8275617
we will all disappear someday anon. it's nothing to worry about.
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>>8275442
People are leaving to Newgrounds and Pixiv.
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But I like having something that aggregates my artist feeds
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>>8275617
name a single good artist who ever "disappeared"

only shit artists disappear anon, so nothing of value was lost
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>>8275632
Octopus Trap
Gura Nyuutou
Kitamimaki Kei
Ozone
Nakayohi Mogudan
Jinjin
I'm having trouble remembering names but there are 10-15 more swirling around my head.
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>>8275638
Shit
Shit
Who?
Not great
Who?
Are you kidding

try harder anon
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>>8275638
>only shit artists disappear
>lists shit artists
pottery
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Oof this blew up fast
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I can tell you this much when sinensien (probably the only artist that is more degenerate than his fans) got his termed in august vut he had pixiv which was his main anyway
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>>8275589
>I'm to fucking lazy to make an archive my favorite porn.
>Why is nobody saving my favorite porn for me?!
Everyone else has the shit saved and don't feel like sharing their hard work.
Your the maker of your own problem.
Besides, any artist worth their salt will have their work backed up off line, so chill your clit.
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Most of the purged accounts are porn bots and all artists that do get their blogs removed can get them reinstated with a help ticket. Not that all artist blogs can be saved that way, but it's definitely not a lost cause.

The biggest issue is a lot of nsfw posts are unsearchable thanks to new restrictions, so as long as you know the url of the artists you like/save it, you're fine.
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>>8275459
as an artist, wtf are you talking about
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What’s gonna be the new porn blog place barring “just moving to these porn threads?”
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>>8275638
Well Octopus Trap passed away so...
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>>8276137
you seem pretty out of touch then, tumblr "artists" are prone to shitfits over the slightest amount of criticism or drama
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>>8275638
Oh shit, did Jinjin nuke his stuff too?
I can dump some of his stuff here tomorrow if yes
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>>8275442
I would archive sunny sundown's drawings.
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>>8275691
Not at all what I said, and I'm chill at the situation it's just that retards are commenting stupid shit to a question.
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>>8276755
>>8276755
>i made a post on 4chan and people are using it to talk about what i posted
>why are those 4channers such monsters

spot the tumblrite
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>>8276856
I didn't start posting about being lazy or being new though, which is what everybody only wants to talk about apparently.
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>>8275459

You're confusing artists with tumblr-''''''''''artists''''''''''''
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Alright this "purge" is making me afraid of the snowflake artists that use tumblr just say fuck it and DELET everything / don't repost.

I found this program TumblThree and it works fine but I would like to know if anyone of you use something better to back the blogs up.

The thing I need the most is that it saves the image with the post under it (like stories). TumblThree does save the post but it is all in a single txt doc and it is hard to find what picture goes to what post.
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>>8277311
99% of snowflake artists don't have any art worth saving anon, so I wouldn't panic.
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>>8275442
Use TumblrTree to backup Tumblr stuff, in all blogs you want to preserve...
... backup your stuff if you are an artist.

Tumblr deserves a great exodus or a 'clone' encrypted and distributed to avoid 'Censorship' via false-abuse-claims or PURGES.

The Purge Tumblr Edition (Black November - 2018)

Notes:

I don't care...

- ... what others think about others art.
- ... about pretexts / excuses for Censorship
- ... about SFW faggots with their Morality of Slaves.

I don't want...

- to predicate / discuss anything in the desert with anons here.
- to waste my time here so no more messages from me (don't waste yours answering this).

This is just as courtesy for 'free humans'
Have a nice day and good bye free human.
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>>8275459
>>8275461
Tumblr BS aside; Erotic art/comic artists do have a nasty habit of suddenly up and deleting everything they ever drew on the internet with little to no forewarning and even when reason is given it is often spurious in nature.

Definitely can't sit here and name names of those that have done it because I don't keep up with porn artist names very good to begin with. But I've definitely run across the situation enough that it isn't just a case of a couple outliers.
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>>8277311
A lot of those programs stopped working in 2016, when tumblr put up that consent wall. I'm planning on setting up Hydrus Network, but it's not really build for that and I doubt it would save the text anyway but I haven't checked.
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>>8277629
its the reward loop. Once art starts feeling like work and the recognition or praise from your viewers isn't enough. Or in some cases gets hostile as a sort of entitlement thing, its easy to just justify it and go "fuck it. Porn isn't worth the headache" and move on.

Most will slide back into their hobby if they have an interest in whatever niche thing they fap art to.
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>>8277463
>TumblrTree

googled it, not seeing anything, explain?
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>>8280499
It's tumblthree , not tumblrtree.
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>>8275575
How do artist start out num nuts.
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Tumblr is getting purged because there was a no-shit Child Porn ring discovered. They're panicking and trying to scrub all forms of NSFW content from the website before the feds charge them.
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>>8280531
>>8280531
you practice and get better at drawing, numb* nuts
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>>8280540
Proof?
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>>8280531
>GRUG CONFUSED
>HOW CAVE PAINTER START OUT
>HOW CAVE PAINTER START OUT IF NOT ALLOWED TO PAINT IN MAIN CAVE
>NO OTHER WAY TO PRACTICE PAINT CAVE BUT PAINT IN CAVE
>YOU NUM NUTS
>HUR HUR HUR
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>>8275442
Stop spreading this lie, tumblr isn't purging most or even a significant fraction of NSFW content
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>>8280648
then why is every porn tumblr I use dead as of this week?
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>>8280648
anon very literally thousands of artists have either shut down or had their tumblr shut down are you high?
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Stop being dumb, they entirely got rid of any option for seeing NSFW tagged posts when you search for anything. Multiple accounts have been deleted, go on the site for yourself, make a burner account. You can't search for NSFW art on there now, you would have to know who to follow, or find NSFW posts from other blogs who haven't been deleted.
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>>8280648
look at the Tumblrite trying to defend their shit platform when everyone realizes how shit it is

bye bye Tumblrina go back and cry on your dying website
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>>8280648
they deleted my account
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>>8280648
imagine being this retarded
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I say it again: fuck tumblr. They deserve this.
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>>8280648
As a person who actually uses Tumblr, I can tell you, yes, yes they are.
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>>8275459
this is compleately true, me and my art buddy suisided out of a kink sub group and i only deleted my stuff because it was bad AND THEN THEY DELETED THERE ACCOUNT TO FOLLOW ME

that particular person has made over 20 accounts and deleted them but still keep there main one up so yeah. espesually if its some kink shit, its embrassment of grtting caught i bet. also being gererally fickle.


tumblr is like a diary to people, theres this weird intitlememt as if its not public.
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>>8275632
"Shit artists" is literally personal preference. One artist up and deleted everything one day with stuff I liked, and due to them not being very big, can't find their stuff anywhere else.

I've since learned to just save all images I like.
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>>8281758
>>8281758
the idea that there are no objective definitions of good and bad art is pathetic and counter to all accepted theory of art

fuck off back to tumblr with this "everybody gets a trophy" attitude
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>>8281819
True, but I also just like shit art and shit artists sometimes, so it's a shame to see those go. Not him by the way.
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>>8281758
Anon you are on a website where one of the rules is to post high quality images. If you don't believe in good art and bad art then like >>8281819 said you're in the wrong place.
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>>8281827
if you have a humiliation fetish and you get off to jerking off to bad art then hey all power to you friend, but for the vast majority shit art is just shit
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>>8281841
>but for the vast majority shit art is just shit
And I'm saying that I can still like that shit art, doesn't make it not shit.
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New anon joining in to say fuck Tumblr. I run a normal geek blog, have 50+ followers, they're all bimbos, bots, or porn bloggers. Half the NSFW artists there do shit sonic the hedgehog bdsm smut, or smelling Scooby doos feet. Tumblr can go fuck itself.
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>>8275442
Artist here. Is it smarter to move to pixiv, Twitter, or something else?
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>>8281978
Imagine being this much of an idiot. You're abandoning a sinking ship and looking for identical ships.

Get your own website. Host your own art. Be a real artist.
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>>8282186
It's easier to spread your art on platforms with people on them though?
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>>8282217
"If I throw my message in a bottle into the bottle recycling plant someone will read it."

Do you see how stupid it sounds from an outside perspective? Not only is tumblr a sinking ship, it's a sinking ship with thousands of other people jumping off. Every single one of them is asking the exact same question right now, and every single one of them is going to come to the exact same conclusions you do, and you will very literally be just another waterlogged refugee.
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>>8282263
>Do you see how stupid it sounds from an outside perspective?
No, because that's a pretty stupid analogy? Somebody would probably read that message. And what's the problem with more people switching to Twitter or Pixiv? That wouldn't negate the huge install base on those platforms.
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>>8282265
You seriously think they look inside every single bottle, of the millions of bottles, that are going to get melted down and recycled?

I take it back, go to twitter. You will fit in perfectly with your massively inflated self-worth.
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>>8282268
You're just being a contrarian asshole, literally nothing wrong with posting your art to Twitter or Pixiv.
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>>8280648

Search the NSFW tag right now faggot.

Fuck you.
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>>8282273
there's nothing wrong with it, but you must be nuts if you think you're going to "get noticed" mr artist - you sound like those girls who go to Hollywood convinced they're going to "make it" and immediately get swept off their feet by a producer and become the next set of tits to be paid to shove them in front of a camera
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>>8276094
>The biggest issue is a lot of nsfw posts are unsearchable thanks to new restrictions
pardon my relative newfaggotry, but why? is it that safemode bs?
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>>8282273
>highlight how the thing you said makes you sound stupid
>You're just being a contrarian asshole

Dropped. Enjoy drowning.
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>>8282273
There's nothing "wrong" with posting your art to Deviantart either, right? Except there is, and you know it, but you're not willing to accept that, you just want someone to tell you what you want to hear. Welcome to 4chan, that's not what happens here.
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>>8282273
Spot the Tumblrite.
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>>8275442
>it's a shit bot targetting high relay blogs
Tumblr users and their staff have one thing in common:
incompetence.
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>>8282337
this
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>>8282288
I'm not an artist, just saying it's more likely than on your own blog if you don't have a following.
>>8282308
Explain what's wrong with Twitter or Pixiv then.
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>>8282288
I have about 8000 followers across accounts. I was just asking for a good site suggestion in case tumblr does turn out to be a shit show.
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>>8282440
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>>8282440
why don't you link those profiles for us then anon?
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"Breast Expansion" now gives 0 results found. What the FUCK tumblr.

Tumblr has a huge base of nsfw fetish artists that make this shit but HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO FIND IT NOW?
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>>8282473
>HOW AM I GOING TO FIND PORNOGRAPHIC IMAGES ON THE INTERNET WITHOUT THIS ONE WEBSITE
Imagine being this retarded and your parents still let you have unrestricted access to the internet. Thats 2018 for you.
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>>8282476
i'm not underage, but i literally just google giantess and i find a reasonable amount of content.

have we talked about what other sites we use besides 4chan and tumblr in this thread? if anyone can recommend me something with plenty of macrophilia, i'm down.
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fetish communities, in my experience, are riddled with mental illness.

let's look at femdom. femdom is the result of mommy issues. the male has a lack of care and sensitivity to his feelings and/or unconscious self, so he represses his desire to be "cared for" until he meets a dominant woman (perhaps one who is repressing her nurturing side).

i hate it when i sound like an armchair psychologist, although that's quite what i did right there. what i'm trying to get at is it's too bad these communities are so volatile. i would hope that being able to work out your repressed desires would have a net benefit, but...
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>>8282489
/d/ is a psychologist's dream anon, I regularly armchair psych this place.
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>>8275442
As far as I'm aware, tumblr was only used to send cp to people... just like all the god damn hidden apps, so it's a waste of space anyways.
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>>8282510
fuck em, bunch of pedophiles deserve to lose their precious website
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>>8282489
Believe me, you sound nothing like an armchair psychologist. Putting the word psychologist anywhere near your name is an insult to humanity. You come across as one of the most clueless people on the internet, which is a hefty feat.
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>>8282523
>WAAAAAAAAH STOP MAKING FUN OF ME SPECIFICALLY
imagine being this upset by another person's opinion on the internet
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>>8282523
>>8282524
yeah, heh, i'm very curious why you think i'm one of the most clueless people on the internet. i bet you a) don't understand what i said, and b) ...you just don't understand what i said. perhaps you are suffering from repressed sexuality. wanna talk about it anon ;_;
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>>8282523
"You know nothing about me, okay, I'm the one perfectly psychologically normal person on /d/. How DARE you make assumptions about me based on the fact that everyone else here is fucked up."
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>>8282489
M.Psy here, that is spot on. Attachment theory was done by John Bowlby, and established that a Blueprint for love develops during the first 3 years of a child's life. And is the very same in adult relationships.

Women searching for emotionally unavailable men, had an unavailable father figure. Men wanting to be abused, developed security around the feeling of abuse while attaching to their caregivers. Concept is the same across all sorts of scenarios.
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This thread's just filled with touchy dipshits huh.
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>>8282970
It's opinions on the Internet. It's never pretty.
Do I like what Tumblr is doing? No. Are there better places to post adult work? Yes.

It's just a shame there are artists that only upload on one site. It wouldn't shock me if they deleted their artwork on their computer too and got frustrated when their stuff got taken down.
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>>8282975
>It's just a shame there are artists that only upload on one site. It wouldn't shock me if they deleted their artwork on their computer too and got frustrated when their stuff got taken down.
That's the real lesson here. No one site is perfect, and it seems they've all shown signs of deleting shit they don't like. So just upload to fucking everything, so not everything would be lost when a site gets pissy. Also, just set up a website of your own, at least you can control that mostly.
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>>8282755
i fucking told you fags. so why did that other guy get so mad about it? is he repressing something?

>>8282975
where? boorus? deviantart? gimme some alternatives.
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>>8283071
see
>>8282186
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>>8283362
>start your own smut site
ehhhhh
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>>8283071
Most noticeable ones would be Pixiv or deviantArt, but they have their own problems (dA, in particular, is kinda on their way to censoring anything that a repressed 3-year-old would find objectionable). Patreon (or its Japanese equivalent, whose name I forget) is another popular option, as well, as is Twitter. Posting directly to boorus probably wouldn't help, since you wouldn't be able to prove you're the artist (and thus wouldn't be able to get any recognition attached to your name). You could also make your own site, but then you run into the issue of not having people know about it. Best option is probably to use a popular platform for some art, and link to your personal site from there.
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>>8275442
who's the artist for this?
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>>8277894
I think pic related is pretty relevant to what you described.
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>>8283408
if you don't view your own art as art then its worthless, no one gives a fuck

why should anyone else care if you don't
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>>8283649
He didn't say he views his art as not art/worthless/whatever you're saying.
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>>8283661
>start your own smut site
its art, the derogatory term says it all
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>>8283672
Well it doesn't. Smut just refers to pornography.
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>>8283408
If you can't be bothered to start your own website then enjoy fading in to the background like everyone else. No one will miss you because no one ever knew you in the first place.
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>>8275638
>Octopus Trap
Anyone into 2000`s ailsoft will always be a bro. RIP
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>tumblr not showing nsfw content anymore in search results
>twitter don't show nsfw content in search results most of the time unless artists add "nsfw" or "r-18" tag which they don't do because they are lazy fucks
>deviantart is big piece of shit so no one use it beside patreon and furryfags
>furaffinity is only for furries so you can't find anything else there
>pixiv is just clownfiesta and majority of stuff it's censored there because it's japan site. The only "western" artists you can find there are also patreonfags that just post censored/cropped art

well fuck
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>>8280648
t. dumblr employee
Because removing full res raw_ images wasn't enough
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>>8280531
On an actual decent site that doesn't fuck with your goddamn art.
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>>8275517
That happened because a Patreon lolcow (Unicornlord) whined to tumblr's staff about "pirates" stealing the full res art on tumblr

LOL

For more details see the comments
http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/2677319
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>>8284443
>someone actually pays money for this
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>>8284443
I can't imagine one dipshit got tumblr to change that, surely they would've already known about that if it was a bug or something.
But at least those comments informed me of Pleroma and soup.io, which seem like potential alternatives to tumblr.
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Lol, OP was right. It's an official purge
https://tumblr.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/231885248-Sensitive-content
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Where would people go really? hentai foundry? twitter?
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If tumblr invades pixiv I'm going to be mad. It used to be my source of only nip art but it's been getting invaded by more and more deviantart-tier western artists.
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>Twitter has an okay interface but searching for art via tags is fucking impossible and the character limit stinks for a lot of other things.
>Pixiv censors everything and has a fucking awful mobile interface.
>Newgrounds' web design is a product of the early 2000's and isn't the best for art, but at least they allow super high res images.
>DeviantArt doesn't allow anything past softcore """tasteful""" nudity, and their web design stinks.
>Hentai-Foundry is okay but again stinks for mobile.
>Furaffinity
Tumblr had a ton of problems but it was the only convenient blogging platform that allowed NSFW shit. Now it's just a ton of problems, and there's no good alternative.
Hope the app store ad revenue is worth losing a massive chunk of their userbase.
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>>8286044

>Twitter

wew lad, no. There's a reason a lot of political people from tumblr went there, there's gonna be a purge of that website too guaran-fucking-teed, just watch, and wait. This is not to speak of the limited character cap which wouldn't make it easy to plug important things in a post.

>Hentai foundry

I swear that fucking website doesn't even show you all of an artist's work when you look through their profile, and their tagging search system is fucking awful.

I hear people plan to move to an up and coming website like pillowfort(dot)io but who knows how that is gonna work out, I'm skeptical that website will be able to handle the incoming traffic considering that it was down for maintenance last I checked.
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>>8286106
I'd say twitter is probably the best one to post content to, and boorus are the best for finding content. It's not like pixiv automatically censors, and I see uncensored stuff there from time to time, but I think they eventually crack down on you if you get popular enough with uncensored content.
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>>8286044
I've seen a lot of artists set up on Twitter, yeah. But it's not a good platform, and most of them don't like it.

They simply aren't sure where to go now.
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>>8286123
>they eventually crack down on you if you get popular enough with uncensored content.
Yup, this started happening to me.
I've never had problems with posting on Twitter.
I've always disliked Tumblr and never bothered with it.
DeviantArt is a little bitch when it comes to exposed crotches, especially dicks.
Patreon only makes me delete incest stuff, but I was forced to make all adult content Patron Only (paywalled).

I welcome any alternatives where I can post whatever the fuck I draw without having to censor it.
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Dumblr's algorithms are having tons of super sfw art getting automatically flagged as explicit. And Mario titty.
Man I hope they crash and burn.
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I thought art was protected by the new guidelines.
This stuff here is... art. Right?
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>>8286187
No, the purge includes illustrations depicting sexual activities.
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>>8286187
Learn to read.
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>>8286193
Well as long as they're not bumping uglies it would be fine.
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>>8286174
the algorithm has gone mad
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>>8286174
I fucking don't, if it crashes all the incompetent cat-lady idiots running the site will get fired and move to shit up other projects
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>>8275442
I never really got why artists put all their stuff on tumblr in the first place. Sure, you get a lot of views but it's hard to find stuff again later. Why not just keep a twitter or tumblr to post updates and then keep all your stuff on pixiv or HF or something? That's how a lot of the 'big' dA artists like Wossarem do it.
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pfft
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>>8275638
Don't forget Usatarou.
>>8275442
Well, I just deleted my tumblr account, the only reason I had it to begin with is because it they made it mandatory to view adult content, what a pointless change given how things turned out.
And nothing of value was lost, most artists are already migrating to other platforms, it was the only good thing on there to begin with.
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Drawfag here.
I used Tumblr because of how simple, ease of access, and incredibly popular it was.
Let's not kid ourselves, yes, it wasn't the best plateform to share art, and yes, it was populated by 20IQ retardos, but it was also one, if not the most popular art plateform, for content creators that is.
If you gave in enough effort, it was possible for any artists to build up a reasonable fanbase and maybe even make you able to pay your bills through your art.
I didn't had a big following, hell, 60 followers is absolutely jackshit, but I never made the effort to sell myself either, but it's just to show that even some fuck like me who doesn't even bother to tag his unfinished shit can get a followed, if only through sheer luck that someone more popular one day stumbled upon something you made and reblogged it.
I fear to even imagine the amount of people they fucked over with that retarded ass decision that will be the death of their own site, it's literally a digital suicide since even fucking twitter out of all thing was catching up to them.

I guess, what I'm trying to say is, I just don't fucking get it
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>>8284421
consider the following
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>>8286272
It smells of mismanagement and a hasty attempt to get back into Apple's good graces. And let's face it, Tumblr has always been run by cowboy coders, which indicates issues with their management, which indicates issues all the way up to the top. Tumblr was always a fucking mess, only now since the Verizon acquisition they're a fucking mess with a giant parent company that has a bigger, more urgent obligation to appease advertisers or Apple or whatever the root cause of this censorship is.
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>>8286251
enjoy your ban
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>>8282186
>Start your own website with no money, no advertising, and no experience instead of using a popular media site where people will share and spread it
Based retard.
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>>8286286
ITS TIME
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>>8286293
With that said, before you (You) me, I understand perfectly well the benefits of starting your own site. But it's total madness to do so when you're just starting out and you have shitty chicken scratches at best.
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>>8286286

I can't believe that the wild west internet is slowly coming back because these major platforms are too fucking retarded to actually manage a website properly.

Can't say I'm entirely against returning to newgrounds, I see they're still doing madness day like I never left a decade ago. It's like an old friend you slowly drifted away from not because you hate one another it's just that you kinda forgot.
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Hm, do wonder tough. Its popular to hate reddit here, but I feel like it could be a good alternative to tumblr. It has a big audience and it more or less ok with nsfw stuff, there are downright filthy subreddits
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>>8286311
I was once linked to a subreddit that was literally called "rapingwomen".
For being the modern "hang out place" of the internet, it do have its dark corners.
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>>8286303
exactly, if you only have shitty chicken scratches, no one gives a shit about you, so you don't matter

discussing those people is a moot point, they're irrelevant
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>>8286296
>>8286251
read the rules, if you want to advertise you can pay for it like everybody else
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>tumblr vs 4chan war rages on
>tumblr starts a genocide against its own people
>mfw
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>>8286044
How about pixiv where the nipponese artists are?
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>>8286378
I hope not though, don't want ugly western porn there.
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>>8275442
Anyone know anywhere else to follow Sealguy's shit, at least if he is going to keep drawing and posting after this? Saw his account was already gone like a week or so ago, so don't know if he up and deleted his shit and is done or what. Also any similar artists to possibly follow?
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>>8281819
When you are trying to jack off, who fucking cares? When you are jacking off, subjectivity matters more.
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>>8282489
>let's look at femdom. femdom is the result of mommy issues. the male has a lack of care and sensitivity to his feelings and/or unconscious self, so he represses his desire to be "cared for" until he meets a dominant woman (perhaps one who is repressing her nurturing side).
Sure thing buddy
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>>8286272
Where you gonna go, artanon?
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>>8275638
>Ozone
as in makoto uno? he's still around.
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>>8275575
>>8275577
imagine being this contrarian.
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>>8276094
>Most of the purged accounts are porn bots and all artists that do get their blogs removed can get them reinstated with a help ticket.
Dude, you're thinking of the accidental purge from a while back. Tumblr announced TODAY that they're banning all adult content on December 17th. A lot of posts are getting flagged as we speak too.
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>>8275459
None of the hundreds of artists I follow have done so, they're all linking their accounts on other sites like pixiv and twitter.
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>>8286411
how is a generally held opinion contrarian? most good artists don't use tumblr, hell tumblr is barely a step up from deviantart in terms of quality
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>>8286286
>having to deal with NG art vanguard
no thanks
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>>8280648
https://staff.tumblr.com/
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>>8280648
it's official now
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>>8280648
>trying this hard to defend tumblr

brb I need to screencap your post for future reference
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>>8283693
What the fuck? There's plenty of popular artists on Twitter, if you tag your posts you're more likely to get noticed and retweeted by a popular artist, whose followers will then all see your post. You're not guaranteed to become popular obviously but it sure as hell is simpler and easier to do so than hosting your own website.
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>>8283649
>if you don't view your own art as art then its worthless, no one gives a fuck
Dozens of thousands of people can follow you on twitter even if you don't have a website. What's this notion that you NEED to have your own hosted website, especially today when the vast majority of artists just use existing sites instead?
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>>8286428
and those popular artists, do they ONLY use tumblr?
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>>8286432
I wonder if it has something to do with how shitty those major existing sites are. Like tumblr for instance. You know, the entire point of this fucking thread?
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>>8286107
>there's gonna be a purge of that website too guaran-fucking-teed, just watch, and wait.
I'll take my chances, mr tinfoil. The vast majority of artists are posting there anyhow.
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>>8286432
Yeah lots of people can follow you on twitter... who cares if twitter shuts your account down? Are you retarded?
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>>8286433
But the post talked about popular artists on twitter, not Tumblr. If you meant to type that, then no they tend to use Pixiv as well, however Pixiv is FAR less popular, especially after a lot of artists jumped ship when the staff announced that they'd take ownership of every submission and could sell them if they wanted to. As such most japanese artists post on twitter and get most of their popularity there.

Pixiv is pretty much needed for higher res images, as much as that site sucks for searching since it charges you for basic functions any other site would have, like blacklisting.
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>>8286440
>tumblr is literally purging all NSFW art
>HAH that'll NEVER happen again on any OTHER website

you are genuinely the most retarded person in this thread, and that is seriously a fucking accomplishment. please do not breed.
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>>8286435
Good thing I'm talking about twitter and not tumblr.
>>8286441
Why would that happen?
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned blogspot yet
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>>8286446
>le slipperly slope fallacy
Tumblr banned you for posting loli all this time. Twitter has had thousands of people posting loli for years, wanna run by me how Twitter has to follow what Tumblr does?

Do you even know why Tumblr's doing this? Because of Apple. They panicked when Apple removed their app from the store, hence the porn bot purge that turned into full blown removal of all types of adult content, bot or not. Now do you think Apple's gonna remove TWITTER, the 8th most popular site on the planet? Fat chance, they would have removed them by now considering twitter has a million porn bots and a lot more unsafe content than tumblr (loli).
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>>8286106
>Pixiv censors everything

wait, what? How so?
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>>8286459
the slippery slope fallacy is only a fallacy to people who haven't studied anon
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Websites aren't expensive.
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>>>/lgbt/11251210
>>>/ic/3705844
>>>/r9k/49642945
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I don't want to live in a world where fucking Twitter is a commonly used art site. Please, for the love of god, someone make a tumblr replacement fast.
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>>8286462
>haven't studied
Like this >>8286446 post thinking Twitter has to follow what Tumblr does even though only one of them banned you for posting loli? Like the post not knowing the actual reason Tumblr is banning porn?
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>>8280648
>stop spreading this lie
>>8286242
>tumblr purge is official
>>8286440
>well that's not going to happen to MY special snowflake website because MY special snowflake website is TOTALLY DIFFERENT from tumblr
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>>8286475
>I don't want to live in a world where fucking Twitter is a commonly used art site
Uh buddy, it already is, most artists have an account there.
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>>8286478
>>well that's not going to happen to MY special snowflake website because MY special snowflake website is TOTALLY DIFFERENT from tumblr
Indeed it is, as shown here: >>8286459
Nice try.
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>>8286459
>F-F-FALLACY! SLIPPERY SLOPE FALLACY!

It's called "precedent", setting a precedent. Do you think lawyers scream "FALLACY" in court when someone brings up previous occasions when something happened in similar circumstances?
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>>8286481
>>8286477
>>8286459
>>8286453
>>8286432

I'm going to save these posts for the future when another one of these websites purges all NSFW stuff and I'm going to post them until you become an hero. See you in the future.
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>>8286479
Should rephrase that; THE commonly used art site. Yeah, they've got accounts, but it's not their only account, they usually post their stuff on their pixiv, DA, HF, or until now, tumblr.
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>>8286482
>It's called "precedent", setting a precedent
And the precedent shows that Twitter doesn't care what Tumblr does nor does Tumblr's reason for removing porn apply at all to Twitter. Your claims are baseless and alarmist, that's what makes it a slippery slope fallacy.
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>>8286487
I haven't seen anyone say twitter is their only site. There are already sites other than twitter and tumblr you know, like Pixiv, which a lot of the artists I follow use.
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>>8286490
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=things+twitter+has+banned
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Twitter might unrionically be better them tumblr when it comes to getting high quality images if nothing else since you can mess with the URL to get the original image upload quality whereas on tumblr they disabled that feature.
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>>8286467
They're also inconvenient and hard to advertise meaning that if you're not already well known they're useless and you're better off just uploading to a booru.
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>>8286494
None of which is loli, like Tumblr, and more importantly they have no reason to ban porn like Tumblr did because they aren't being threatened by Apple. These two statements prove that the claims that Twitter is going to follow Tumblr are baseless and alarmist, which is the point of this argument.
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Twitter might be easy to upload too, but it's far and the worst of the options for browsing. Please don't use it as your art dump, artists, or at least have something else in addition to it.
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>>8286496
>add :orig to the end
>there are scripts out there that do this automatically for you

Really needs to be spread among those leaving tumblr and complaining about twitter compression.
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>>8286504
>Please don't use it as your art dump
most artists do anyway, cause the accounts are linked from elsewhere for exposure.
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>>8286496

> Twitter
> High Quality Image

The fact that resolution stays the same doesn't mean jack shit about high quality, you illiterate moron.
They use their own compression algorithm. While better than jpeg2000, it's still quite a lossy one.
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>>8286509
And that's awful.
It's so shitty. Browsing it is so shitty. You can't find anything, it's all mixed in with regular tweets and pictures of their favorite games and foods and that garbage, you can only scroll through the entirety of their twitter which is eventually just gonna make your PC want to die, you gotta fucking drag and drop the pictures into new tabs just too see them in full rez without closing the window, which would reset you all the way back to the top of their feed...it's so, so, so bad.
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>>8286461
They censor the tips of dicks, so you know, everything!
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>>8286517
If you're lucky.
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>>8286515
Use TweetDeck and set it so it only shows images/media. Filters out all the text posts. Can't do much about people posting food/pet pics. But that problem is also inherent to tumblr as well. Just gotta hope some of them are smart enough to make art only twitter blogs or tag miscellaneous media with something easily filterable.
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>>8286515
You can filter their tweets by pictures, which is the minority of people's tweets (if they don't use their account only for their art like some do). And you needed to open pictures in a new tab for full res in tumblr too anyway.

Also you're missing the point, it's not that twitter is supposed to be your only site, especially considering that it compresses image. It's that because twitter is the 8th most popular site in the world, the exposure and number of artists there are considerable, and because people use it for stuff other than art as well, it's a handy site for updates of everything, not just art. It's more so a feed site than a dedicated art site, which is why artists link their other accounts in their descriptions.
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>>8286496
>since you can mess with the URL to get the original image upload quality whereas on tumblr they disabled that feature.
that's just petty spite
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>>8286527
Keeping those big, fat, high resolution pics must have been expensive. Especially to a money-hemorrhaging website like Tumblr.
They were probably forcing compression/conversion at that point so even with some loophole there would be no high-res pic to be found. What you see is what you get.
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>>8286286
Tumblr's format is so much better than Newgrounds's, seems like a real replacement isn't going to happen.
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>>8286558
pixiv.
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>>8286558
>Tumblr's format
*vomits*
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>>8286561
I really like pixiv. But what it lacks right now is clear rules about its censorship policy and poor communication in regards to how far its English UI has come.
I see so many people who still think that Pixiv is locked to a Japanese only UI or that the UI translations are indecipherable.
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>>8286567
I mean you can do uncensored stuff, you just get a message by Pixiv telling you that your art can't be put in the top 10 ranking of the day. Other than that, artists (usually western ones) tend to put an imgur link in the image description with the uncensored version.
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>>8286569
Oh I know that there are ways around it. The problem is a lot of other people don't and upon cursory glance assume that "oh guess I gotta censor all my artwork since everyone else is, I'm out".
Which is why I'd like something a little more front and center about what can and can't be done so potential new users aren't left scratching their heads.
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>>8286524
Oh shit, this is really useful. Thanks, anon.
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>>8286570
>"oh guess I gotta censor all my artwork since everyone else is, I'm out".
I don't see that really, most of the hundreds of artists I follow have a Pixiv account, western or not. Also, most western artists on Pixiv post uncensored art anyway, hell that's how you can identify them right away, so it's clearly no biggie.
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>>8286570
Also, Pixiv doesn't compress, whereas Tumblr does ever since it removed the option to view raw images.
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>>8286573
Check DevilHS for example.
Some still don't understand how Pixiv's rules work.
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>>8286577
I mean obviously there's going to be exceptions but for the most that's really not the case, and really, you can apply those prejudice cases for any site. Like the people who think tumblr is only sjws and demisexual otherkin and thus refused to even go there all these years, but just like pixiv it's really not that notable.
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>>8286581
The problem is there really shouldn't be any exceptions. Tumblr's a special case since they embraced SJWs and otherkin bullshit.
If Pixiv were more clear that they're not that strict about censorship, particularly for western users, I think it'd be a benefit to everyone. It's also especially odd to use imgur as some kind of loophole, which further muddles the issue since now "oh is it okay to post uncensored here or do I have to post a censored pic and link somewhere else instead? Do I have to post a censored image as the cover page and the rest can be uncensored?" I see a bunch of different approaches to a problem that may or may not exist.
Again. If they're a little more clear about what you can and can't do the whole browsing/submission experience can be streamlined significantly.
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>>8286609
>The problem is there really shouldn't be any exceptions.
That's just not possible, exceptions will exist for anything, even for sites that you personally think shouldn't have any. Think of a site and there most certainly be people out there who don't want to use it for their art for whatever reason, or simply don't care about it and want to keep using sites they're familiar with.
>If Pixiv were more clear that they're not that strict about censorship
But the reason people even think Pixiv is strict about censorship is from word of mouth on sites like 4chan itself. And even then it's not that noteworthy considering the vast amount of western artists on Pixiv who don't give a rats ass about censorship, to the point that you can identify if an artist is western right away because them doing uncensored art is so common.
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>>8286619
>But the reason people even think Pixiv is strict about censorship is from word of mouth on sites like 4chan itself

And the best way to dispel that is to simply announce it. I'm kinda curious as to why you seem to be so against the idea of a site simply being up front and saying "hey, this is our policy", as if it's going to be a huge detriment to Pixiv or something
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>>8282489
Sup, Sheela? How's it been?
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>>8286622
But word of mouth means that people are prejudiced about Pixiv before they even enter the site, the same way people scared of tumblr are scared they're going to see a massive fursuit orgy the moment they enter the site, there's not much the staff can do about it.
>I'm kinda curious as to why you seem to be so against the idea of a site simply being up front and saying "hey, this is our policy"
I'm not against it at all, I'm saying Pixiv can't do much about it because like I said, it's word of mouth, and also because it's a tiny issue since most western artists post their stuff uncensored. Everything has tiny issues, but you don't see people demanding they all get addressed, because they're tiny and there's not much they can do about it if people are prejudiced beforehand.

Hell I don't think Pixiv even knows let alone cares about people who don't understand their censorship guidelines, it's not like they WANT uncensored stuff you know, and advertising their guidelines would only potentially intimidate the current western artists, and they sure as hell are better off keeping them for the sake of their revenue even if they'd prefer them to censor their stuff.
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what if we post our alternative hentai to 4chan.org's alternative hentai, "/d/" board
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>>8282186
>>8282263
>>8286432
I was around for the days when every port artist had their own individual website. It fucking sucked. Having folders of bookmarks and saved links to artist's sites, having to find new artists only through word of mouth or by following links to the artists's friends sites and hoping they had similar content, rummaging through web rings for hours looking for decent stuff, only to find that half of the artists had been gone for years. Plus, it makes the problem of artists vanishing even worse. People changed websites without warning or stopped paying their hosting bill all the time, and overnight they were gone without a trace. I don't want to go back to the days of 2005 again. There's a reason most people moved away from that model.
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>>8286658
>the geocities era
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>>8286662
All the Japanese artists of the the time mostly hung out at FC2.
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>>8286658
>2005 internet is the same as 2018 internet
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Is anything being done about this at all, or are people just going to accept it?
You know tumblr is closing down soon after porn is banned right?
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>>8286714
Doesn't change the fact that you'd have to save a billion bookmarks just to check if the artists you follow have any updates instead of using one or two sites that everyone uses for convenience.
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>>8286732
Newgrounds, twitter, furaffinity, discord, pillowfort, pixiv, etc.
People are scattering to the wind at the moment. One site will likely come out on top as the main bastion for NSFW artists but for now people are just setting up temporary refuge wherever it's available.

>tfw opened some 200 new tabs today trying to follow/bookmark all these fuckers
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Newgrounds is privately owned and is apparently taking steps to streamline their picture hosting capabilities in light of the former tumblr traffic they're getting. It's also a pretty well-known site already, albeit for things other than art.
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>>8286629
Yeah, then we can lose all of our art once we hit page 10! It's like tumblr but faster!
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>>8286622
I'm becoming more and more for this idea.
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>>8286224
Severely underrated
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>>8286794
>One site will likely come out on top as the main bastion for NSFW artists
If pixiv pulls out its head out of its ass and fully acknowledges the existence of the rest of the world, it might become the next tumblr. Twitter is probably just a temporary solution since it's just not built for the purpose. Furaffinity is just too niche and focused, and overall both the UI and the tagging system suck as hard as hentai foundry's. Discord is not interconnected enough. Pillowfort will probably take off when it's already too late, since now it's not a matter of slowly growing and improving, but managing an entire exodus, and for that you already need a pretty solid infrastructure.
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You guys ate forgetting the reason.
Apple is banning what they perceive as porn apps. Tumblr is one.
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All porn will be removed from Tumblr on dec 11th. Many artists are moving to newgrounds.
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>>8287471
Damn this means it could happen to Twitter too. What's gonna happen if Twitter follows Tumblr? Even 4chan's NSFW communities are slowly being fucked over. Is this the beginning of the end?
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>tumblr dying
>4chan predicted this for years
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>>8287516
I don't know why it needs to be reiterated but here's the deal.
Tumblr has allowed real life CP to fester and grow on their site for ages and despite a slew of complaints from their users they chose to do nothing about it. Apple finally nuked them for it, which is why Tumblr is flipping out.
Twitter likely won't run into this problem (at least not any time soon) since A. Their platform is several times larger than Tumblr's and removing them would be detrimental to Apple as well. B. Their staff takes a more active stance against real life CP. Certainly more so than Tumblr's "sit on our hands and lets see what happens" approach.

What you're seeing is the result of shit management on Tumblr's part finally biting them in the ass. The only way I see this happening to Twitter is if they decide to go lax and allow CP to run rampant on their platform just like Tumblr did.
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>>8287516
I doubt Apple would threaten to ban Twitter. Twitter's not 90% porn like Tumblr, and I'm fairly sure it's larger.
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>>8287516
Apple banning Twitter would cause way more outrage and ire towards Apple than anything. Too many normies use Twitter for Apple to strongarm them.
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Chounyuu welcomes Tumblr refugees.

https://g.chounyuu.com/thread/924/1
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>>8287647
Too bad chounyuu is shit and has an egotistical mod.
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>>8286044
pillowfort.io
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>>8286272
Switch to plemora/mastodon and convince others to do the same. You won't be at the mercy of some giant company.
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>>8286567
Considering this is the image that's getting spread by NSFW artists on tumblr right now I'm in favor of the censorship-policy-up-front idea for Pixiv. Unfortunately I doubt Pixiv staff are even aware that Tumblr is collapsing and don't have any plans to capitalize on the exodus. Guess NG will come out on top of this.
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>>8286044
Newgrounds, surprisingly enough.
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wouldnt it be best to make something that was dedicated to adult blogging...
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>>8289114
>no baraag
>no pawoo
>no pleroma
>muh userbaaaaaaaaaaaaaase
Cancer.
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>>8290227
But that would actually require effort, anon. And effort is scary.
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>>8289114
Fixed.
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>>8290227
>>8290367
this, tumblrites are incapable of doing anything for themselves
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>>8290227
Considering copyrights, high bandwidth cost because of all images, and the shit ad possibilities you get, I can see people not wanting to build something like that.
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>>8290399
Based and redpilled.
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>>8286309
Yeah, I always check up on it, but now it will be more worth it. Maybe creators will also turn to dating sims/the like as well.
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>>8286569
I did a bit of googling and got very different responses, i.e. people's pictures being taken down and them being told another strike and they're banned. Stories from '13, '15 and '18, so idk when Pixiv was ever as laid-back about censorship as you described it.

Are you sure it's not just down to a diceroll of whether your stuff gets reported by a user or not?
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>>8290399
this
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>>8290399
sounds like someone has been eating too much of le reddit
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>>8291165
i dont even know what this means
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>>8276146
you seem to be projecting your emotional instability on others.
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So things are about to get extremely boring over the course of the next decade, huh?
God dammit, why do people always have to ruin good things.... it's like the world is made up of 99% retards.
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>>8275459
This anon is slightly right, ive seen a ton of artists delete their stuff over the years. That being said, tumblr and this no nsfw law shit is retarded.

As for artists who did go nuclear
>Dworven (completely gone)
>DarthSubaru (dead)
>Fukmin-DX (nuked his stuff recently)
>Sealguy (never returned from the purge)
>Guoh (for a short time)
>MurderDaiida/VhsDaii (deleted all his work then came back)
>Wabutt (locked his stuff down, never came back)
>Minus8 (notorious for going nuclear on the reg)
>Kaboozey (nuked for a long while, only returned recently)
>Ungulatr (nuked but came back)
>Asswolf (lost his mind, came back, left his old stuff deleted)
>Hypnofood (has a fetish for deleting her old work)
>Lazorchef (fukin dead)
>34from1800 aka Plague (once nsfw, left is all behind)
>Xopachi (dont even get me started on this asshole)

Point being, save EVERYTHING, that shit about "whatever you post online is there forever" is complete crap. Artists, websites, etc, can remove anything and everything you love at the drop of a hat because go fuck yourself.





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