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general for discussing anything femdom related
aka bitch about why not everything panders to your taste

>tfw into brutal femdom but it's all gfd now
>tfw all brutal femdom captions are just "eyy yo white boi" blacked shit now
>tfw stuff like Girls forM has been nothing but "meh" for a long time
>tfw many femdom artists have moved on and most likely won't come back
why even live?
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>>8281351
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>>8281351
3 image rule tard
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>>8281351
you do realize that calling this /fddg/ is going to very quickly get it confused with /ddg/ right?

also post more images cunt
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>>8281351
I hate this fucking fetish!

Sub men are hated and seen as bottom of the barrel everywhere, dating services are fucking broken and don't work for guys like me. The communities as far as I can tell are full of batshit crazy individuals and stuck-up cunts, who are impossible to deal with. The only successful pairings that I've ever witnessed are always dom guy/sub girl, for obvious reasons. For the rest, sexual frustration is a nearly daily companion.

I want out! I want this out of my system! I have no sex life. I wasted my best years chasing something that I can never have, unless I pay 500 bucks/hour for it. I'd rather even be a faggot at this point. The way things are now, I've gained nothing but have successfully lost a whole lot of self-esteem and respect. Fuck this paraphilia.
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>>8282602
>women are stuck up cunts
>crazy individuals
>id rather be a faggot

Gee anon I wonder why you're not meeting any women....
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>>8282602
>The communities as far as I can tell are full of batshit crazy individuals and stuck-up cunts, who are impossible to deal with.
All IRL fetish related events are attended and managed by damaged spiteful people. This is why you never engage with the subculture. This is why you never allow this sort of thing to be anything more than a fantasy. Do yourself a favor and stick to 2D.
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Oh so this is the new "forever alone" /gfd/ thread?
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>>8282615
>I'm tired of dealing with shitty crazy people
>gee, anon, it's not surprising you don't meet any good people if you think that cunts are cunts
Very logical
Much sense
Wow
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>>8282615
I'm not who you're responding too, but I honestly hate people like you. This guys venting his internal frustration on an anonymous website and you're sitting here talking like he walks up to girls and says "hi I'm anon I hope your not a stuck up cunt or crazy otherwise I'd wish I was a faggot!" Like holy shit are you fucking stupid or something? do you lick windows? Do you wear a helmet? Do you know the meaning of the fucking word "context"? I don't even know what to call this stupid fucking way of posting, but I see it a lot. It's not really white knighting because you're not actually defending an individual girl. You're just being some kind of robotic virtue-signalling faggot. "Boohoo someone was mad once anonymously so that must be why they can't find a girl into an extremely niche fetish" Fuck off you dumb cunt.
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>>8282679
>I'd rather even be a faggot
>>8282682
>venting his internal frustration on an anonymous website and you're sitting here talking like he walks up to girls and says
We're on 4chan.

Incel buttfrustration is comedy gold, especially subs.
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>>8282904
The post could also be a troll. The amount of incel rhetoric, the declaration that only male dom and female sub relationships work and not having much knowledge of how the BDSM community works makes me suspect.

Either that or I'm just cynical as all hell.
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femdom is the result of mommy issues. the male has a lack of care and sensitivity to his feelings and/or unconscious self, so he represses his desire to be "cared for" until he meets a dominant woman (perhaps one who is repressing her nurturing side).
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>>8283339
And now we come to the part of the thread with the armchair psychology.
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>>8282602
>>8283255

Tbh all of the mistresses I've had are now switches or subs. As a bi sub, I've found lots of men who are 100% tops/dominants, but very few women are tops/dominants in the same way. (I think a lot of non-gay women like cock, but maybe it's difficult to 'dominate' in the same way when you're the one getting fucked?)

I can understand why a lot of straight male subs get frustrated. But if you have basic social skills, finding femdoms for a bit of fun is no problem. But for a long-term relationship I do think it is a challenge.

(DISCLAIMER: this is not a comprehensive survey of perverts worldwide, I wish all straight male subs the best of luck, never give up, i believe in u)
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>>8283421
Followup to my own post: Look at the cuckolding fetish, which I think is popular with lots of straight male subs who have come to believe that no woman will ever be fully happy with a non-dominant partner.

Also, I see a social difference between lots of porn/erotica by malesubs and femsubs. Malesubs are more selfish, while femsubs know how to truly surrender. (Again, just my bi opinion, not an actual census of perverts. I think women are already socially pressured into a sub role. Men often act like doms even while trying to submit.)
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>>8283421
>f you have basic social skills, finding femdoms for a bit of fun is no problem
I don't agree with this at all. I've got plenty of friends, a good job, I go out every week and do normal things like go to concerts and bars and I have my own hobbies. Yet I've never met a girl I would consider remotely close to femdom. It's not an easy thing to find at all, it's a shot in the dark hoping you can find a girl who's secretly super freaky in bed and willing to try stuff like this.
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>>8283483
Oh sorry I should clarify... I have never ever randomly met a dominant girl in a normal real life setting. Like 99% of them are subs, even the vanilla girls.

Last time I had mistresses, I was using sex dating sites and focused on women who were 30+ years old (I was 20 at the time). Finding them was as easy (i.e. annoying) as finding dates with vanilla women. It's been a while, but I used sites that had recommendation/friend systems that made it easier to learn who was "legit" and who was "for pay".

I had some hot flings (lasting a few nights or a few months) but soon after I decided I could only get a long-term 24/7 thing from dominant men. I truly sympathize with straight malesubs. It's a challenge!
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>>8283494
Tbh I wouldn't consider myself a sub at all, more of a switch (which might be even worse considering girls who know how to dom seem to be super into doing it). I want a girl where we can almost competitively dom each other, if that makes sense. Whatever kinky shit I do to her she thinks of a way to get back at me for it, kind a thing. But finding a girl who knows and enjoys domming but doesn't let it define her life is like impossible.
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Psychologically, it is impossible for society as it exists to create a truly dominant woman. To be dominant one must learn what it means to be disciplined, commanding, and have a strong sense of will. Most importantly though is the experience of gaining what you have through work and/or hardship. Society coddles women. They are handed opportunities and adoration by virtue of their sex. They do not know the experience of true hardship, only imagined. They do not know how to truly command obedience, be disciplined, or have strong willpower. A woman can gain everything having sacrificed and striven for nothing. She reaches the throne on the backs of other's efforts, blissfully ignorant of her lacking effort.

Thus when you meet a "dominant" woman, what you meet is a fake. A hollow shell. A simulacrum of dominance. A man who is dominant commands respect and demands obedience. He puts those who submit to him in their place with a firm hand and unflinching will. A "dominant" woman is a living fallacy. Her "dominance" is just self aggrandizing masturbation. Her brittle shell will break the at the first moment of true resistance. Her tough and commanding demeanor shattered by a simple slur or negative assertion. Whether she enters a rage or cries bitter, stinging tears matters little. She is a defeated being laid low by one supposedly the "submissive."

Such is what it means to be the so called fairer sex. This is why women at at home as submissives.
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>>8283549
Best post ITT,
Also best post about "dominant women" in general.
Also the important part is not only that you must be able to make "sub" submit even if they misbehave, but also there needs to be a sense of responsibility for one below you and woman are usually never held accountable for any failure and thus never develop ability to be truly responsible.
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>>8283549
Imagine actually writing this bullshit.
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>>8283255
>incel rhetoric
You have to go back
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>>8283549
s-s-stop anon the truth hurts
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>>8283549
i agree that women per se aren't equipped to be dominating in the male way, but they can be dominating in the feminine way.

think of women as holes. i don't mean that in a derogatory way. i simply mean that women have a hole and behave like holes.

as a guy, you're not going to get far if you just start jumping into holes. the holes don't appreciate that. the holes are sensitive. hence, they make it hard to get into the holes. you can't blame them. you don't have a right to enter the hole. fair enough.

what i like about dominant women is they're holes who want to "consume" you. this could manifest in a vore kink, which is representative of their behavior. if you look into the bdsm community, there's this notion of being a female dom is, in a way, caring for someone. there are women who want to and enjoy exploring a part of them that wants to possess, control, and hold someone close. and then there are women who just like inflicting pain. that's fine too.
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>>8283786
We need to get society to replace the word "penetration" with "envelopment".
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oh, and i'll comment on dominant women outside the bedroom.

in my previous post, i'm thinking bedroom antics. i get off playing sub, but outside, i don't want anyone, male or female, to utterly control me. i think that's antithetical to survival. i think of femdom as a game, and i think everyone else should too.

>>8283795
i kinda like that idea. what people might not understand is the pussy is pulling the dick IN. the dick isn't just a battering ram.
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>>8283813
> i don't want anyone, male or female, to utterly control me. i think that's antithetical to survival.
Not necessarily true, there are many animal species such as termites who have societies built on total control and lack of any individuality, but even in human society this concept exists as submission. If a nomadic barbarian tribe conquers a village for example, if the villagers resist 100% they might all get slaughtered, but if they offer their submission and usefulness the barbarians might let them live so long as they do exactly what they say at all times.
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>>8281351
>discussion
why not just be honest and call it a flamewar thread
>>8282602
sometimes i hear people talking about their femdom relationships, but nobody wants to be open about it. everyone hates you for being into this so why would you bother inviting trouble? my gf is mostly dominant in our relationship but none of my friends will ever know because duh. but that leads me to:

i really don't understand wtf this fetish is supposed to be about. if i look at "mainstream" femdom outside of /d/ it's all heavily revolving around humiliation and denial which i'm not really into at all. but on here the posts are more similar to what i like: girls touching/shoving/tickling guys and guys doing favors for them.

what's weird is, i've never seen that much indication that humiliation/denial is all that fun for the woman. you'd think that if mainstream femdom is the way it is because that's what women want, there'd be a lot more women in the fetish. rather, it seems like femdom went that way because it's easier to avoid prostitution laws if "no sex" is made part of the fantasy.

>>8283421

occasionally you'll see leftists who think they're helpful (lol) complaining that most of what's on here caters to male tastes, because of course it fucking does, but we're not exactly mind-readers, and can't predict what women will want, although obviously being attractive and healthy helps.

thing is, there's not going to be any movement towards making femdom less "selfish" coming from the community leaders, because the women who are the most invested in the community are, naturally, the ones who make money off of it -- if you're just looking for a relationship, you only need to find someone who can mostly satisfy you, but a career demands a market. and they are better off if male subs have "selfish" tastes which make it harder for them to sustain relationships. pornographers have similar incentives, too!

cliche to blame capitalism but it makes sense imo. no money in true love.
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>>8283891
as a key example of this, /r/pegging used to be (maybe still is) moderated by a professional dominatrix who would occasionally post long threads arguing that men should hire a professional instead of trying to find a partner who was into it (because they'll get made fun of or something) and that double-sided dildoes (eg. feeldoe, which exist to make pegging more enjoyable for the girl) were missing the point of pegging because "guys have to do too much work during sex" or something else silly like that. now, it's possible that someone might actually believe that, but i smell a pretty strong conflict of interest here!
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>>8283902
so the tldr of my stupid rant is: nobody knows what dominant women want. perhaps because of that, women who could be interested in being dominant, if any, may never see anything that entices them to go for it. submissive men are clearly doing everything wrong but it's not like they have much to go on, and most sources of info are unreliable or even intentionally misleading.

the best advice i have is to put as much effort into your appearance as is reasonably possible without becoming vain and find someone who thinks you're cute. do whatever she wants (within reason), and if you can't last long enough, smoke weed. i make no guarantees.
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I came here expecting actual discussion of femdom, but this thread just reeks of lazy virgins.
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>>8284055
>posting on 4chan
>lazy virgins
but the dating scene for femdom sucks everywhere so of course people are going to talk about how it sucks
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>>8284072
Not here, it doesn't. When was the last time you went to a munch or play party?
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>>8283925
The major problem is that there are two kinds of submissive male and two kinds of female domme.

There is a bit of overlap between them, but in general people lean to one or the other.

There are subs that want to serve, and subs that want to be dominated, and there are dommes that want to be served, and dommes that want to dominate someone.

There is a huge difference in kneeling in front of someone, and being taken by the hair and forced to kneel in front of someone.

It's obvious, but in my experience irl most of the relationship issues I see in F/m BDSM spring from submales looking for a domme that is even a little bit assertive, and finding only women that want someone to carry their bags and maybe get flogged or rub their feet.

It dosen't help that the assertive dommes are rare as hell, and there's a ton of "Subs that don't worship the ground I walk on from second one of laying eyes on me aren't real subs!!!" that completely dominates the scene.
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>>8284075
i haven't. i've been in two relationships, both of which started when the woman expressed interest in me and had some femdom-ish character, moreso with my current gf. neither was through a "kink" community. however, there seems to be a broad consensus that dating is super hard for both submissive men and dominant women, from what i've seen everyone else reporting, here and elsewhere. plus being tall and white probably doesn't hurt in my case lmao
>>8284082
that makes some sense, but when you say
>finding only women that want someone to carry their bags and maybe get flogged or rub their feet.
imo it helps if dominant women express interest in something other than chores because obviously everybody wants a partner that does chores, regardless of preference. even furries would consider that a plus.
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>>8284055
yeah its the remnants of /gfd/ screeching about being "forever alone"
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>>8284129
So you've never actually engaged the kink community, but apparently are an expert in it and you're telling that finding a dominant woman is impossible even though you've never actually looked. Okay.
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>>8284138
Um, I don't recall saying that "finding a dominant woman is impossible", but that people complain about difficulty in dating, and particularly, about incompatible expectations. And no, I haven't gone anywhere in person, but I've been all over the Internet, and if you're claiming that the Internet is useless, then...

...what in the fuck are you doing here?

If you have some actual knowledge to share, you'd probably have posted it already.
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>>8284267
My advice to you is to...go outside. Actually meet people. Attend munches and events.
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2D femdom is the best anyway desu
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>>8284298
nah. having a woman sit on you like that feels better than looking at a picture of it
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>>8284300
Sure, good luck man
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>>8282602
your not the only one anon, it feels like suffering. it dosent help that the femdom itself sucks ass. it feels nothing like the stuff women get all the time, i want all the hot fetish gear and toys, and the sex machines. fuck this. alli want is love and attention that women get no matter what, but i still hang in there day to day. honestly /x/ is really the reason i havent died yet, meditation does wounders anon. really focus on your self. on a side does anyone else wish femdom was more loveing to the guy? like just imagine any femdom hentai but with the guy and girl switched
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>>8284340
like just imagine any femdom hentai but with the guy and girl switched
so.. generic maledom?
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>>8283549
honestly, i want to disagree with this, but as someone who's had experience and frustrations with a "dom" gf i can't help but concede the points about dom girls being (or at least feeling) fake.

i have a gf who's pretty kinky and is into stuff like pegging, and that's all well and good, but at the end of the day she can't command the same kind of dominating energy that a man can. i'm not sure about this being due to "society" or anything nearly as grandiose, it just feels like there's something psychologically lacking in the female mind.

women have a keen sense of being able to tell the "boys" from the "men", and what kind of dominance they find childish, immature, and needlessly competitive, and what kind they want to be ravished by; and often both can be found in the same person.

a lot of women seem to view men as a kind of attack dog, they want someone who is aggressive and vicious enough to keep them safe but not so untamed that he'll turn on her. you'll see a lot of women apologize for their man's behavior, especially in terms of being a dick toward others, but at the end of the day that's why she keeps him around and ultimately finds him attractive. (continued)
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>>8284370
(continued)

so i guess what i'm trying to say is women see male dominance as being pretty silly and egotistical, until they get horny and it's super hot to submit to one. and when women try to dom, that's why it seems like a simulacrum; they're "playing" at that male aggressiveness without truly understanding the drive and anger behind what makes a man act the way he does. (full disclosure: i'm trans and have put a lot of effort into getting away from that aggression because it was very uncomfortable to me :P)

but to switch gears a bit, i would like to point out that >>8283786 has a very good point about femme dominance; what does come naturally to women is deciding which men make the cut. women will probably rarely have that raw will that men have, but they can exploit men's drive for their own ends. a woman's real natural dominant power rests in withholding sex from men unless they've proven themselves worthy to whatever criteria she's decided, and there's a lot of play that can be had from that dynamic, where the degree of a man's submissiveness is directly proportional to the driving forces within him that make him want her.

so yeah, it's not all gloom and doom, tl;dr if you want male-style dominance just find a man (it's thrilling to submit to someone so dominant they make you shiver and a little scared), or else just learn to appreciate (and possibly help cultivate) the female style of dominance where she's mostly manipulating and playing with your own desires.
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>>8284349
i wrote it wrong, was fapping. i ment imagine any bdsm or other hentai with the girl tied up, and switch it with the guy being tied up instead of the girl. i guess more stuff like pic related instead of just wipping and the like. sorry for being unclear
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>>8284379
Isn't that pretty common already? Even irl that seems like the most common femdom you are gonna get.
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>>8284382
kinda but theres no girl uses vibraters/sex machines on guys. like ive seen some of it but most femdom is just degrading and thats not my fetish at all.
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>>8283925
Weed helps you last longer?
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>>8283549
Here's the (You) you desperately wanted
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1. i'm not sure why people are so hostile toward psychological analysis. it might be wrong, but would it kill you to seriously consider it for a minute? why are you in this thread if you're so hostile toward analyzing? i don't want to think people on this board are actually so full of volatile emotions and hangups about this that they lash out, but i guess that's a strong possibility.

2. the fastest way to get a domme to dislike you (guys) is being thirsty. if you want a domme to work her magic, you still have to make her happy using muscle and confidence. when she gets worked up, that's when you get the good dominance because she's horny she gets blood simple. even apparently timid girls can become monsters. subs need to be broken. it's not fun when she just wins all the time.

3. male subs need to appreciate atmosphere and psychology. yes, that means lighting candles, music, or wearing something. it also means don't jump into sex immediately. communicate. dinner and a movie. negotiate. maybe you don't do anything the first night. fine. it's her right to choose. but if she strings you along, wastes your time and money, and meanwhile messes around with other dudes and lies about it...take that as a signal to move on. unless you enjoy that.
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>>8284340
>>8284349
>>8284379
I just want to be treated by women like men like to treat women.
Stuff like being touched because they really want to touch you, getting your holes used for their pleasure, etc.
But anatomically this makes no sense, especially due to the easier orgasms and the refractory period that men get, as well as the fact that it isn't easy for a woman to just fuck you in the ass to get off.

I just want to be the lone guy in a room, who gets sexually harrassed and fucked by a lot of girls who don't really care about my enjoyment, but rather theirs.
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>>8284520
There's a lot you are able to do to get around that. When I peg my boy, I place a small part of the harness against my clit and thrust into him until that stimulates me into cumming. It usually gets rough because it requires a little more effort to cum thst way. So, women can feel physical pleasure from pegging.

Regarding the refactoy period, I often hump roughly with his penis fully inside, and if he cums I don't take it as a cue to stop. Depending on the boy, some stay hard for a long while after they cum due to the stimulation. This means a woman can continue to use him for sexual satisfaction through multiple orgasms.

It's a matter of the woman having no hesitation and taking the lead, as arousal can stay around for ages if her passion and forcefulness doesn't let up.
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>be OP
>make thread to bitch about your fetish
>secretly just looking for confirmation
>but still hoping for actual discussion
>no response for some time because /d/'s slow as fuck
>leave and completely forget about thread
>come back and see what's going on in the thread
>seriously wonder what i expected
oh well
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>>8284582
holy shit, she gets it. not taking cumming as a que to stop is brilliant. it's basically how you get a guy to ahegao.
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>>8284520
I've been arguing against the double standard that femdommes have compared to male doms for ages now.

I just want what the femsubs get, genderswapped.

But finding a femdomme that can handle that is one in a million. Hell, finding a femdomme that is assertive and not just a cunt with abandonment issues is rough.
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>>8281351
The perspective is all fucked on that pic and it triggers me.
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>>8284507
Because chances are good that if someone is doing psychological analysis on 4chan, they're stupid and wrong.
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>>8284270
I’m >>8284267 and that doesn’t make sense. I’m in a relationship, if you actually read my posts you’d know that.
You’d also know I’m a gentlefag and I can’t really understand the frustration these guys have with their partners not having enough “dominant energy” as >>8284370 puts it.
>>8284424
yes, by far
>>8284507
Usually “psychological analysis” means “motivated pseudoscientific reasoning used to demean people” at least in here
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>>8284702
The reason I never went to a “play party” when I was single was that I was afraid of being pushed to do things I wasn’t comfortable with and/or seeing the same.
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>>8284704
That doesn't happen. All limits and kinks are discussed prior to playing at play parties. The goal is for everyone to have fun and be as comfortable as possible.

You should attend one, just to see what it's like. You don't even have to participate. You can just meet people and observe. See what your local community is like. No one gets full on strap-on gangbanged at their first play party.
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Where is the guy with the mom domme when we need it?
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>>8283421
To give you a different perspective, it's also extremely difficult to find a 100% sub man. To clarify there is a difference between masochistic bottoms and actual submissives. A lot of them really just want to top from the bottom, to be pleased or hurt in the exact way they want with very little interest in actually doing what pleases their dom. I find that even in a lot of doujins the men are just doing this as well, especially in most cases where the MC cums 10 times in a row, while the women doesn't even get touched, or receive oral, or any sort of pleasure from the interaction! And then, the icing on the shit cake is a lot of them are also promiscuous and/or poly, but I see this is also a problem with female dominants as well. In general people suck.

>>8284613
That is my dream relationship. Having a guy who just wants to be pegged and used for oral without normal PIV sex. Or just even oral would be enough. Too bad it's hard to find someone like that normally, PIV is always the main event and causes me to avoid relationships.

>>8284507
>male subs need to appreciate atmosphere and psychology.
This is very true. I'm not speaking for all, but a lot of female dominants want to be courted. That means grooming well for her, taking her on multiple nice dates, being romantic, not pressuring her. Or if you don't go out, cooking her a nice dinner or something. Just put in the effort and show you care, it makes a huge difference.
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>>8284507
In other words a "dominant" woman wants to put in no work, make no commands and command no obedience but also reap the rewards of an obedient sub who they command. At that point who is really the submissive? The "submission" of the man is just as much a simulacrum as the "dominance" of the woman. Without him, she would have nothing. Without her, his life would continue as normal.

Two adults lying to one another, but only the woman lives a true delusion.
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How do you explain mommy dom? A female who wants to care for a submissive male, provide for him, and nurture him in a motherly way, and in return she expects total submission in both psychological and sexual manners. She is independent, yet pours herself into her sub. He is reliant on her. Is this just not as common as I thought? How many boys are into that?
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>>8284774
A simple case of broken women desperate to claim motherhood and leaning on equally broken, failed men who could not hold onto their masculinity. Such men are either failures who have bent the knee toward our society's anti-masculine social climate, or men who missed out on the child rearing necessary for a healthy adult mind.

However, one must not confuse this for true dominance. A woman who has failed to fulfill her purpose as a child bearer is nothing without the synthetic mother/child relationship she constructs with the man. The man however can still function and fulfill his societal role. If anything, she is the submissive party. An object for the man's indulgence, nothing more.
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>>8284507
Most "analysis" is just "you like x because you're a failure, I don't like your fetish but because I'm posting Freud I can pretend to armchair psychoanalyze why you like x".
>>8284741
>a lot of female dominants want to be courted
Just like the stereotypical regular non-domme? Then what's the difference? If the guy has to court, appease and care for the girl just like a regular stereotypical relationship, but also doesn't get to put his dick in or do whatever regular maledomfags want to do, then what's the reason to desire this relationship for the guy? This sounds like a doujin for women to be honest. Nothing wrong with that for entertainment just like there's nothing wrong with the ones you're describing, but it sounds like not accepting the kind of compromise that an actual relationship requires once you apply it to real relationships.
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>>8284794
Do you think a domme wouldn't like having the door opened for her, having a nice meal cooked for her, getting massages, or other similar romantic gestures? It's about being a gentleman. Most normal sub women don't really get this treatment at all. At least, they're the ones more likely to be doing acts of service. Because they're submissive and want to please.

>then what's the reason to desire this relationship for the guy?
In my opinion, a submissive gets joy from making their dom happy and satisfied. If a domme is doing all the work to do what YOU want (this is what professional dominatrices do), they're not quite dominant at all, are they? Similarly, if a sub doesn't want to do what the dom wants (within reason), they're not really submissive. I'm not saying the dom doesn't have to do nice things ever, but you almost make it sound like a male sub doesn't have to put in any effort ever. That they just have to lay there passively and put no effort into showing they care. That isn't submission, just passivity. There's a huge difference.
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>>8284819
>In my opinion, a submissive gets joy from making their dom happy and satisfied
That sounds like a dangerously imbalanced relationship. I don't really believe you can find happiness if you have to just appease someone else. And I didn't state anything about passivity. If your idea of a sub being happy is just serving someone else without ever caring about themselves it sounds like it's obvious why you haven't found someone like that.
>It's about being a gentleman. Most normal sub women don't really get this treatment at all.
But I imagine that most normal sub women do in fact fetishize many of those things, because all of those things sound like they fit into a generic disney princess situation. Are you saying that regular girls don't want to be pampered?
>Similarly, if a sub doesn't want to do what the dom wants (within reason), they're not really submissive.
A sub simply submits. You can be a sub that doesn't actively go out of their way to please and has to be put into their place. For instance.
>but you almost make it sound like a male sub doesn't have to put in any effort ever.
You almost make it sound like a domme doesn't have to put in any effort ever. I'm saying a (real) relationship is a two way street. If you personally want to have a sub that just does everything you want as your slave, that's fine. I also fetishize unrealistic things. Yours sounds pretty much like the standard slave fetish that's reasonably common amongst men. Just don't try to pretend that's what all femdom must or should be about.
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>>8282602
First off, I'm going to agree with you about the IRL/Local communities. I've been into Femdom for about 15 years (since grad school), and virtually every local play night or munch for Femdom has been dominated by some of the worst people you can imagine. This is in complete contrast the the standard pansexual or general bdsm play nights; those were filled amazing people.

I've honestly given up on trying to use the local nights to meet extra partners. I'm married to a woman who is willing to indulge me in the kink occasionally. It sucks I can't live it more, but I think it beats dealing with the generally shitty men and women in the IRL nights.

I generally never reveal I'm a male submissive these days. I almost always just tell the people I'm a switch; which has worked a bit better. You avoid SOME of the initial "ew" factor people have when you identify as a sub.

As a dude who lets other dudes dom/fuck him, I gotta say you won't fare much better. Its less about Femdom, and more that you're a submissive. The number of dudes who harass the living fuck out of me because I'm a sub really makes me hate being kinky at all.

Become a switch; date a switch; get at least a little of the lifestyle.

But yeah, stop hoping for the dream.

The dream is dead to me.
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>>8281351
This kink sucks if you're 18-22, are there any cities in the U.S that have a good scene for zoomers?
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>>8284854
>That sounds like a dangerously imbalanced relationship.
That's the whole point. Keep in mind I'm talking about this as a relationship dynamic. Not bottoming or masochism in the bedroom which is often confused as submission. Submission is based upon two things. Either it's done out of love and respect, or done out of fear. The latter is an abusive relationship. So for a submissive who is a loving relationship, it would make them happy as well. It's not a miserable experience like you're thinking.

>You can be a sub that doesn't actively go out of their way to please and has to be put into their place. For instance.
Yeah, that's a fun game you play in the bedroom. Not an actual submission dynamic in a relationship.

>But I imagine that most normal sub women do in fact fetishize many of those things, because all of those things sound like they fit into a generic disney princess situation. Are you saying that regular girls don't want to be pampered?
Yeah, it's the truth, most women want romance. Sub women rarely get it though, and I believe sub men have the potential to be way better at it. For the record I think dommes should do romantic things for their partners too. I used to princess carry my ex in the pool, and we both loved it. I loved being the big spoon too. And kissing his hand. And carrying heavy things for him. And making desserts for him when he had a bad day. And giving him flowers. It's not just sub women, most people in general want romance.

>You almost make it sound like a domme doesn't have to put in any effort ever.
Hardly. The dom has to make all the decisions, be assertive as well as understanding, making sure the sub is doing well, it's a lot of management. That's what I'm saying, it's not the sub's job to make the dom's life harder or to be a deadweight.
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>>8284881
San Francisco.
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>>8284884
Well now you're explaining in a more complete and understandable manner. The post I originally replied to made it seem like you're a normal girl who wants to be pampered but also just served in the bedroom without giving anything in return or even doing anything dom-related.
>The dom has to make all the decisions
If you're being courted and the sub is taking you out on dates, then you're not really making all the decisions, no? Not that I think that's a problem, I just don't really understand what you mean - can you give me some examples of what kind of decisions you would make or have made? In general I don't see how you can even have a genuine sub-dom relationship dynamic as you describe, precisely because of how imbalanced it is and how necessary cooperation is in a relationship.
>making sure the sub is doing well
Everyone has to make sure their partner is doing well in a working relationship though. If the sub isn't caring about the dom, he is effectively being deadweight - as you described as well.
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>>8284975
>it seem like you're a normal girl who wants to be pampered but also just served in the bedroom without giving anything in return or even doing anything dom-related.
Hardly. I'm into more hard stuff like pegging, chastity, pain, tease & denial, soft CBT, watersports, etc. In fact all this stuff was too much for my ex and he was also a switch (I couldn't do it, the most "sub" thing I'm into is being teased/edged), which is why we broke up.

>If you're being courted and the sub is taking you out on dates, then you're not really making all the decisions, no? Not that I think that's a problem, I just don't really understand what you mean - can you give me some examples of what kind of decisions you would make or have made?
I would be the one to choose where to go (I wouldn't pick somewhere he would dislike, but rather something we both enjoy) and probably even pay most of the time. But every once in a while I'd like him to take the initiative. For example, if we've been cooking most of his meals he would offer to treat me to a place I enjoy. Or he would think of new recipes that he think I might like. Or surprise me with a small gift every once in a while (something cheap like a cute keychain). Things that show he is constantly thinking about me and improving to be a better partner.

As for decisions, the main things would be lifestyle choices, diet, exercise, anything that would keep us in the best shape possible. And of course sexually, I like being the one to choose what we do.
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>>8284507
>I'm not sure why people are so hostile toward psychological analysis.
Because when someone posts a psychological analysis of woman 90% of the time it's a thrice regurgitated rehash of Hegel's critique on woman. At best you come across as an angsty faux intellectual.
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>>8284596
>how you get a guy to ahegao
Or cringe in pain. Closely related, honestly.
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>>8283339
I'd like to argue...
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>>8283891
why is the smartest thing I've read all week in a porn thread
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best thread I've read in a while, overall some good discussion!
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>>8285109
dont be an ass man, im glad we had this conversation. makes me feel glad that im not the only one with frustrations when it comes to relationships and sex.
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>>8285222
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guy here. context:
>grew up in religious environment.
>had chances, but i turned them down because i was committed to celibacy before marriage.
>i quit the religion at 25, but i had to start from scratch as far as women are concerned.

i'm interested in gentle dom with a lady.

>i'm a kissless virgin
>i'm in my 30s
>really fat
>but somehow funny without being self-depricating and i behave confidently, although i have some emotional baggage (i'm insensitive to my own emotions, and i want to bring those feelings out and resolve them via femdom).

advice?
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>>8285162
>whining and pretending like it's impossible to find a domme gf is good discussion
You're retarded
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>>8283623
>It's a "virgins think they are experts on human psych and gender" episode
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>>8284370
>i can't help but concede the points about dom girls being (or at least feeling) fake.
This is the issue with these threads
People take ancedotal experiences and expand them to everyone
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>>8285242
theres some truth in what they say but its hard sometimes to admit its not everyone, mostly because of bitterness and frustration.
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>>8285255
thats all i have to dump sorry, i ahve trap/futa stuff but i wont dump unless you guys want that sorta stuff
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>>8285229
Join fetlife, find local munches, attend, introduce yourself to people.
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>>8285229
Get /fit/ = more attraction = better chance on any kind of girl.
Also, get out of your confort zone and interact with local comunity
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>>8284777
Then why the fuck do so many guys I know want the mommy gf in that sense? Is it just a meme?
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>>8285238
>It's a virgin calls out others to feel better about himself episode
You don't know that at all
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>>8283549
incels say the darndest things
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>>8284774
It's interesting that you are getting replies using a Freud poster, yet he says nothing about the mixture of sexuality and platonic love.
Most psychology of Freudian origin posits that the subconscious mind is very, very, very, simple. So simple that attraction has only one context, that our more developed ideals wish to separate into categories to conform to our expectations.
The simplistic attractions, Freud believed are what made the Oedipal and Electra complexes in which maternal love, romantic love and sexual lust are only understood by our subconscious mind as a singular entity.
But, anon, you say, isn't it wrong to imply children are imprinted with feelings of sexual lust? As biological mechanisms reward us for gratifying our needs, they do not appear out of the blue some time during puberty. Children can be observed gratifying themselves in ways that would be considered sexual, even if they do not understand this. And of course there are early attempts to reenact courtship rituals such as dating or wanting to marry. Who do they pick to practice this on? The first ones that come to mind when they understand that love means attraction.
Such feelings and associations get buried under rationalizations, but they never die. Of course if you tried to indulge them to the logical conclusion, you'd recoil in horror, but for the most part the unconscious mind does not know this and will fantasize
I'm sorry but I saw the Freud posting and I got a bit worked up. This thread is a mess, and I'm sorry to have contributed to it by posting this crap in return. I usually expect to see these types of thread-derails in GFD instead.
As for another appeal for mommy-dom? The role-play is consentual, there are actual boundaries predetermined, your little actually enjoys the situation, and when you are done you can just end the scene and cool down. I guess the only problem is you can't actually shota/loli-fy your littles, which would be easier to dominate and care for them.
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>>8284777
>Synthetic mother/child relationship she constructs with the man.

Is this supposed to be a downside? /gfd/ ftw my man. Not to mention, that's all semantics. Philosophical justification is still opinionated justification nevertheless.

Yes obviously our brains are set up for specific personality types, that has been proven as much. Yet regardless it has also been proven to easily go against that (whether that be mental issues or an environmental change) which our brain naturally turns towards. If she is dominant or semantically he is dominant, does it in the end matter. Does it really detract from the actions and how both parties perceive it? Delusions are reality to those who hold them. Mind > Body, Perception > Objectivity.

The perception of these acts is all that matters, and perception dictates that the woman is truly dominant and the male is truly submissive. One might even be able to argue that if a submissive really wanted the perfect dominant that they could, in some manor such as suggestion, really alter the personality of the person they want to be a dom.

Not like its out of the realms of possibility. Not like people haven't done it before. Those that kind of manipulation isn't something a lot of subby people are capable of.
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Really starting to hate being a sub-male. I had a perfectly normal upbringing, if not a little tough between 1-3 because of parental issues. For as long as I can remember I’ve been pretty sexually submissive but always take the lead in group projects/plans and shit, never afraid to make decisions. Nobody was surprised when I said I was a sub because I was just an average looking slightly chubby guy who had 0 luck with dating.

Fast forward a few years and I got got really fit (to cosplay). Lifting doesn’t cure autism btw. People suddenly start taking an interest in me because obviously physical appearance is all that matters immediately. Still a bit autistic with talking but attractive enough for it to come across as cute. Still majorly submissive, but I was only approached by sub girls. Talk to my lesbian dom friend about it. She tells me that I come across as a dominant because of the fact that I’m willing to take control in situations and I look physically strong. She tells me I’m going to have a hard time being approached by dominant women. Tells me I’m also going to have a hard time approaching them because my body type isn’t appealing since it’s too masculine.

Now I’m fit and lonely.

I thought being confident and fit would help me stand out. I might as well embrace my gay side and beg feminine guys to dominate me instead.
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>>8285678
>Tells me I’m also going to have a hard time approaching them because my body type isn’t appealing since it’s too masculine.
That isn't true at all, it's a very attractive trait and shows that you take care of yourself, especially when 99% of people don't. It'll be hard to find someone for sure, though. I'm pretty much the opposite of you: really short, introverted, soft-spoken, would rather fuck off and do my own thing than be held back by groups, shy but enthusiastic when meeting new people. I'm sure 99% of people would think I'm a sub before they actually get to know me simply because of my body type and certain parts of my personality. We are both going to have to put ourselves out there more and be more open about that part with prospective partners. Don't give up. Even though it doesn't seem like it, there are people out there for you.

>I might as well embrace my gay side and beg feminine guys to dominate me instead.
This will just make you feel worse in the long run. Hookups are cancer.
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>>8284756
>Without her, his life would continue as normal.

You'd think that wouldn't you?
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>>8285229
I wouldn't really recommend resolving emotional issues via femdom, if you really want to get over stuff talking to a professional is the best option
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>>8285232
that's not literally all the thread is idiot. The responses and personal experiences were nice stop hating everything just to hate it
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You know the other downside of this fetish?
Last night she fucked me really hard, in various ways, it was very good, etc. but today I still feel small and vulnerable and it’s hard to be at work in the office. Like i want to curl up and hide under the desk. Nobody told me this would happen ._.
>>8285678
It really shouldn’t be hard to lose weight. My gf likes that I’m skinny but also likes to see muscle definition (which I have, in some places). It’s not an either/or: you can be a “muscle twink” I think is the term.
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>>8284741
PiV is nice, but I live for oral. I can lick anything for hours.

I'm a delicate flower when it comes to anal though.
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Oh my fucking God all of you just post porn relating to the fetish holy fuck
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And I mean that to the idiots debating whether dominant females exist or not
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>>8284741
PIV mean penis in vagina right?

So you want a guy to go down on you at will and will let you fuck him with your strap on when ever you get the urge?

And he has to be caged or jerk off later thinking about it?

That is so fucking HOT!
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>>8284794
> This sounds like a doujin for women to be honest.
silly thought i know, but when was the last time any of you fuckers saw a femdom "doujin for women"? because as far as i can tell basically all femdom porn is aimed at submissive men.

i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that a lot of guys in this thread may have felt submissive at one point or another in youth but you didn't start identifying as "submissive" until you learned that was a thing, right? and part of that happened here, or somewhere like here?

a lack of erotic media could (partially) explain why women who might be interested in being dominant never develop that interest any further. as far as I know a large fraction of femdom relationships happen because the sub guy asks his vanilla gf to try domming and she likes it, but frankly that's a stupid way for things to happen. the cost of failure is very high for both parties. and it probably only works when it does because she had the tendency on some level to begin with
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>>8281351
tfw it's never a hispanic girl in the hentai
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>>8281351
i hate how when a girl doms a guy it's always about like "degradation" and putting him down but when a guy doms a girl it's just abt how she's so hot he can't control himselfand is never like "i'm domming you because you're inadequate"
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>>8284741
>That is my dream relationship. Having a guy who just wants to be pegged and used for oral without normal PIV sex. Or just even oral would be enough.
Is it really that hard to find though? I dont give a fuck about PiV and Im sure theres thousands of guys out there who would agree the same. Or maybe Im just a freak.




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>>8286502
talk to her about aftercare, really important part of d/s stuff
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>>8284741
>Too bad it's hard to find someone like that normally

I'm right here though.
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>>8283255
I don't see how pretending to be as pathetic as >>8282602 and >>8282682 classify as trolling versus just giving people laughs, but ok.

I've been in a switch or sub relationships, but never one that was permanently role-played out or like what most people imagine from these pictures. From my personal experience, I would agree that there are far less dominant women than men in sexual relationships and for varying reasons.
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I'm going to boil over real soon, I can't help it. I've been pulling long hours at my job for nearly a year, with no time to put into a relationship or even begin looking for one. I have fantasies about domination, dreams of teasing, even watching videos of young men presenting their opinions on YouTube have me rewinding the video because I get lost imagining my teeth on his exposed collarbone.

Most nights I fall asleep touching myself to the thought of roughly humping a cute boy until I cum again and again. During the day I have to keep myself hyper focused, else I find myself sitting in my own wetness. I think of finding a boy to take it out on, just for a night, but I know I'd cave to my hormones and start domming him daily like a fucktoy. I need out of this, and soon.

I have to stop coming here. hearing your sexual frustrations turn me on immensely. Know that for every desperate post, every sad story, and every dream shared, there's at least one woman imagining you at your computer stroking your sorry cock, practically begging to be relieved.
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>>8287006
Quite possibly the best post on 4chan ever. 11/10 even if it's not real.
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>>8287006
>I think of finding a boy to take it out on, just for a night, but I know I'd cave to my hormones and start domming him daily like a fucktoy
How is this a problem?
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>>8285413
>Get /fit/ = more attraction = better chance on any kind of girl.
Being fit is fucking meaningless in my experience.
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All I want is some facesitting and occasional light bondage. Even stuff as vanilla as this has been almost impossible to find.
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>>8287006
Meow... .///.
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>>8283549
What does it mean when I fit all the female criteria and I’m a guy?
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>>8287006
Tell us more, bro.
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>>8287006
sounds too good to be true. if true, god bless you anon. maybe we'll meet some day.
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>>8287499
You're worthless.
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>>8287323
remember, there are women who like scrawny or obese men. and vice versa.
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>>8281351
I'd like to see more gentle feminization, without the humiliation or degradation. More for teasing play than crossdressing, but still cute stuff.
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>>8281351
Probably on my own here, but I love tiny doms.
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>>8287794
You're not, and it's not impossible. I swear it. All the tiny girls are bitter about not being able to reach shit, and would love to take it out on you.
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>>8287766
And there are people who win the lottery.
And there are people hit by lightning.
Your point is?
If serious think that being fit doesn't help, you are delusional.
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>>8287766
Sure, they're out there, it doesn't mean they're decent people.
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>>8287773
Always loved the idea of a girl that wants me to crossdress for her because she finds it legitimately cute/sexy.
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This thread requires a lot of reading so I really hope you guys can forgive a spoon feeding request especially if the answer is elsewhere in this thread, but here goes
Are there any online dating sites for femdom? I cant imagine myself in a vanilla relationship, and the idea of femdom makes me feel very warm inside. I live in SoCal and I've been told this is a dead zone for legit activity, and that seems true, so I'm trying to resort to meeting someone online. Any kinda advice or anything?
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>>8289094
SoCal is like, the opposite of a dead zone. Who told you that? Fetlife is not really a dating site, but you use to find groups, parties, and events. You can meet people there.
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>>8289102
People on other boards I think, hell it might have been this board. I've tried fetlife but cant find much in my area that isnt just an ad for a club. I found one munch I wanna go to but have been having scheduling issues with it. Other than that one I think I saw an age play one once, everything else seems like it's up in NorCal
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>>8289086
sause?
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This shit is exactly why these threads got banned. I'd go as far to say they're as cancerous and cringy as most /b/ threads now.
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>>8289595
if we just banned threads because they're cringy, you can kiss half this board goodbye.
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>>8289633
>if we just banned threads because they're cringy, you can kiss this entire website goodbye
FTFY
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What does being pegged feel like? Is it more intense knowing she's taking out her frustrations on you?
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>>8290245
Can’t say I’ve ever been pegged but I’ve had a girl put a few fingers up my ass with a glove on. The look on her face every time I flinched was priceless, though and the second she started thrusting I was trying to fuck her legs.
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>>8290245
Being pegged feels amazing. I honestly prefer it to anything else.
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>>8290245
Pegged is amazing.
You should feel no pain if done right.
It should be amusing or exciting or both for the girl, but she won't orgasm. Only a fun/intersting thing for her while full of pleasure for you, weird.
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>>8290819
This is what I hate about pegging. It feels really one sided since she doesn’t get to orgasm. Almost insist on performing oral after for her.
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>>8290846
No one ever says this about blowjobs, yet it's as norm as you can get.
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>>8285697
>Hookups are cancer.
Only if you're a sexually repressed Christian or something. Put aside unrealistic expectations of making an eternal friendly bond when you just want to get laid. Because you can actually meet femdoms there.
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>>8290971
Have some self-respect and value yourself, my dude.
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ITT a bunch of butthurt faggots because a ream domme is so far out of their league they'd rather pretend to be the world's shittiest philosphers rather than just admit they're fat ugly neets.
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>>8290245
>>8290819
How do orgasms work when pegged? Like, do you just ejaculate normally and then get your refractory period?
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>>8291697
It's way more intense.
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>>8291682
What if I'm not a fat ugly neet and I like women

But I'm still single
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>>8284520
wow i relate to this so fucking much
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>>8287006
Heh i don't want to seem like an orbiter... buttfukit.
I'm in a similar situation where I work a lot of nightshifts so I dont get to interact with a lot of people aside from the older women I work with. Likewise my dick is a leaky faucet(abnormally high libido, real problem) and I go completely insane some days and many nights wanting to completely surrender to a girl

So I guess what I'm asking is would you like to sink your teeth into this skinny boy's exposed collarbone? Or take your frustrations out on me?

Jesus this post was cringy but there really wasnt a good way to write it.
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>>8291983
Cringe. But if it works I’ll still be jerking off alone while you enjoy yourself so whatever.
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>>8291983
Gotta respect the hustle Anon
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>>8290846
this is false, that one woman upthread has reported orgasms from pegging and my gf does too. you have to have a toy that supports that of course.
>>8290870
in fairness blowjobs aren't usually a "female dominant" act
>>8290971
leftists gtfo
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>>8292298
>in fairness blowjobs aren't usually a "female dominant" act

And yet men expect them without ever asking 'but what do the women get out of it?'
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>>8286866
I mean she’s very kind and affectionate, but it was Sunday night and I had to work Monday morning. Hard to avoid life dragging you away.
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>>8292298
>on /d/
>doesn't like free sexual activity
Are you one of those confused conservatives?
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>>8284777
.t insecure domfag that cant cope with the idea of not being in total control all the time
literally came into a thread full of things you did not like....why are you so angry?
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>>8282602
Works on my machine :)
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>>8292652
i don't think you replied to the right person
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>>8292301
why are you so mad about blowjobs? you didn’t even address what i said. if you’ve got some kind of point to make then say it rather than doing this passive aggressive shit

mostly i like oral because the fact that she’s willing to put her mouth on my junk means she thinks it’s not gross or weird. it practically never happens that she just sucks me off to orgasm without anything else happening. a blowjob is not usually the climactic moment of sex, whereas pegging is. so this comparison only makes sense if you’ve never actually liked femdom and just came here to troll, as far as i can tell

you might as well ask “why do guys like getting their head scratched without asking what it does for the girl?”
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>>8291983
I'm never going to claim I can solve your problems, but we can at least talk. rapaha@getnada.com

See you soon.
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And this is why I prefer 2D over 3D.
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Headpats are nice ^.^
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>>8294258
>let your voice come out
my money is on that being a criminally bad translation of 声を出す
why do translators not know the languages they're translating between
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>>8285442
I think its the need of belonging.
Most love there mothers becouse they cared about them and supported most of there actions.
And a girlfirend is a sexual and social partner you like to have around you and talk to.
Combining this makes a super caring person who is not only nice to you but (like your bother back in the days) cares about your children. Motherskills can be universal used and some man like this.

Its also helps that in fiktion young mothers are often not only sexy but also likeble and kind.
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Would you submit to a pregnant woman?
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>>8297155
Why wouldn't I?
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Gentle femdom is lame and pedestrian
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>>8297539
Agreed, same with feet (literally pedestrian)
Mommy gf and foot licking don't interest me at all. I wish this place hadn't been infested with /gfd/, I'm interested in actual dominance
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>>8282682
Thank you.
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>>8286734
Aye, I search very carefully for media where men are treated more like the latter and not the former, but it's really tough. I could go on a bit about how men under patriarchy are always already construed as the subject and women as the object in any given interaction, and how it's to the point where the average woman's fantasy is an image of herself being pleasured, which tends to drown out any erotic expression of men as attractive, but saying basic sociology shit on here gets you screamed at by troglodytes from the 18th century.
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I can only recommend everyone here to read this through :

https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/miscellaneous-resources/start-here-evolution-has-not-prepared-your-brain-for-todays-porn/

Really made me change my mind on some things.
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>>8281351
There's 2 weeks since next G4M vol and still no artist list, what the fug
also can we hope for the sequel for the best story?
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>>8298434
>It’s quite common for a porn user to move to evermore extreme porn
that's true, i start fapping to footjobs and gentle femdom, get through pegging and feminization and now im full on cbt netorare and noncons
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>>8298460
Yeah right? I mean I used to laugh at all these NoFap and monk-mode people and put it off as some weird cult that wanted to take away something I love.
But the more I read into this the more I find myself in these statements. They even gave me a reason for why I am into vore and trap. The latter really bothered me a long time since I don't want to be gay. I don't dislike gay people I just don't want to be gay myself because of gf etc.
Maybe you don't have to quit everything but I for myself will really try to tune down a lot and I will continue to read these reports.
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>>8298460
Also maybe to ease your mind a bit I also read this on the same page:

>So if you’ve escalated to fetish porn that surprises you, you’re not alone, and it likely is not an indication of “who you are” sexually – other than an ordinary bored, overstimulated porn user. This page has hundreds of examples (below) of guys who quit porn and saw their porn-induced fetishes evaporate.

So there is a way to 'cure' these fetishes to a certain extend.
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>>8298472
>>8298467
im still not gonna get on no fap since im worthless neet anyway so whatever i fap or no to my doujins won't really change anything
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>>8298450
According to an anon on /a/ the new Girls ForM will feature Sugar Milk, Usubeni Sakurako, Miyamoto Issa, Marui Maru, Yamahata Rian, Otochichi, and Masayo.
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>>8283421
Pff, I gave up, I only fuck to procreate and for the rest I don't bother myself about sex too much. I just lift and jack off instead, seems to make me much less frustrated
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>>8298524
>Yamahata Rian
god, do you have any source on this? he's my favorite artist along with Mame
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>>8298472
I moved into traps since I sport a lot, I am also into femdom. however the weird thing is that,I don't want them to fuck me, I want to dick them. I would have expected it the other way around honestly.
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>>8298545
I believe it's on the Girls ForM twitter. How come Fakku got the licensing rights to Girls ForM but refuse to actually translate any of it and prevent other people from translating it?
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>>8282602
coming from a dominant woman, we pretty much are all like this because of some deep-seeded hatred or trauma we want to bury
that being said i would never want to be submissive, the very thought of it disgusts me to no end
only around 5% of all women are doms
don’t stop looking son
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>>8283549
shut the fuck up and suck my strap you incel cuck
women are dominant because of excess testosterone or fear of submission
argument destroyed
post porn
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>>8298819
deep-seated
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>>8284371
>full disclosure: i'm trans

GFDs everyone
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>>8281351
my biggest gripe that's relevant is that I want to be able to dom my partner properly but the concern over violating his boundaries gets to be pretty crippling at times.
Also struggling bc my best friend is a masochist and all I want to do is bite her hard enough to bruise, but I really don't want to be cheating. Cuddling I can pass off as innocent girls-are-touchy-feely time, but even now I feel dishonest by spending time in a relatively intimate manner with someone I know is attracted to me.
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>>8299355
>the concern over violating his boundaries gets to be pretty crippling at times.
isn't that what a safe word is for?
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>>8298450
Whats this from?
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>>8298450
But anon, this was best story.
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>>8299397
Yeah, but for someone to safeword means that I went a bit too far. We do employ lots of communication to keep anything too bad from happening, but it still freaks me out.
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>>8285233
> Zhu Lee, do... ME!
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>>8299397
I'll also add that he's relatively vanilla and I have to employ a lot of effort to keep myself from being too aggressive or assertive etc. I realize I'm just whining because uwu why wont he cater to my fetish, but it's undeniably getting in the way of me enjoying sex and intimacy.
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>>8300567
You need to talk to him about it then. If he's someone you see yourself being with long term, you should be able to comfortably have a conversation about this. And if it's really important to you, then you need to consider if the relationship is really right for you. You shouldn't have to force yourself to be vanilla if it's not who you are.
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>>8298258
It's almost like this is a hentai thread and not for spouting off soft-science built around fighting agenda-based bugbears. You don't sound smart, you just sound like a pseud.
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>>8300414
>>8300567
i'd say pushing boundaries is part of the fun, but are you sure he's not also trying to hide his powerlevel?
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>>8300297
[Yamahata Rian] Shihai no Gakusha
>>8300312
i like it but it's lack of cbt to be perfect
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>>8298434
i can't believe i have to show up to remind people that this site is a cult and full of unsubstantiated lies.
i don't know about anyone else here but i was a voraphile at 12 (prey, lethalfag) before i ever saw porn. /d/ made me feel less like an irredeemable mutant and gave me more realistic tastes. tripping on psychedelics was a *big* push in that direction too i'll admit. i'm not even kidding, porn saved my life.
>>8298460
in fairness, your dick didn't click on those topics, -you- did. if you don't want to think about something... don't think about it. if you're not horny enough to get off, do push-ups instead.
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Massive femdom party this weekend at a big dungeon. Should I go? It's formal attire.
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>>8284371
>trans
so we should trust the person who is confused about their own gender to tell us how people work psychologically, uhuh
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>>8300615
Yeah, I suppose I should. As it is right now he typically uses knowledge about what I love as a domme to toy with me and then dominate me, which bothers me lot because I wind up getting whiplash. I can handle submission pretty well, but it freaks me out when it's sprung on me like that. I feel helpless, not to mention stupid for being manipulated.
>>8300815
I know his powerlevel pretty well by this point. His fetishes reflect his preference for dominance.
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>>8301501
Ad hom
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>>8285222
Holy shit this is awesome
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>>8298434

Look anon, when women decide to stop being insufferable feminist neo-puritains and fat blue haired tumblrinas, we'll talk.

But they'd better decide what they want before the muslims conquer the world.
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>>8298472
Why would you want to cure them though? They're hot.
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>>8298434
>Dopamine fires up for other emotions and stimuli too, all of which often feature prominently when using internet porn:
>Strong emotions – such as guilt, disgust, embarrassment, anxiety & fear
None of you faggots actually feel bad about watching porn, do you?
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>>8298434
>This has escalated over the years from aged 12 somewhat like this;
>Underwear models
>Nude models
>Basic sex in porn
>BJs
>Anal
>Gangbangs
>Male domination of women
>Femdom
>Feet
>Femdom with pain
>Femdom with an emotional feel
Is emotional femdom the ultimate porn?
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>>8302216
used to when I had the fear of God in me, then I realized that he continually refused to help me no matter how hard I tried to be a good Christian, stopped trying and my life immediately got better.
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>>8300567
>>8301566
>As it is right now he typically uses knowledge about what I love as a domme to toy with me and then dominate me, which bothers me lot because I wind up getting whiplash. I can handle submission pretty well, but it freaks me out when it's sprung on me like that.
That sounds manipulative and also very back-handed of him. Why do you let him walk all over you and make you uncomfortable while simultaneously not getting to do the things you enjoy? Honestly, if he can push you like that, you can push him back. Think about it, he's a man, he can handle that shit better. So many women operate under the assumption of "b-b-but what if I hurt him!" when men smack delicate women around, choke them, and hurt them constantly.
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>>8300414
>Yeah, but for someone to safeword means that I went a bit too far. We do employ lots of communication to keep anything too bad from happening, but it still freaks me out.

Maybe try the Red, Yellow, Green system?
Like lights.
Red means : We have to stop this right now.
Yellow means : Please pause, I'm uncomfortable and not sure I want to keep doing this thing.
Green means : Keep going.
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>Switch with a love of gentle mommy femdom

I will find the switch,mommy woman of my dreams one day anons....
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>>8302216
>None of you faggots actually feel bad about watching porn, do you?
I felt for the first times, like for first year of fapping (I started at 18), despite not even being religious unlike >>8302331
Now I don't though.
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>>8302216
only when i miss a tag i don't like in the book(hentai) description
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>>8302331
Good on you to move past that.
>>8302399
18 is pretty late, I think. I first fapped when I was 12 or so, I busted a nut on the family couch. My mom was pissed but I didn't care. I was a chad kid, sucks cause now I'm a bitch.
>>8302414
Oof, yeah, that's justified.
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>>8297155
You have to be courteous. She's pregnant!
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>>8301144
I decided not to go. They were having a slave auction and didn't want to be embarassed when no one buys me. :(
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I've been informed that I'll be spending a lot of time on my knees in the future by my mistress (an hour a day, not sure how many days a week)
does anyone here have experience with preventing calluses from stuff like this?
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>>8301144
how do I find these dungeons?
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>>8303443
Depends on where you live. I live in a highly populated area, so there's pretty much one on every block. Google?
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>>8303448
Man this difficult because I live in Texas, I'm guessing when you say populated you mean califorinia?
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>>8303944
What you can do is join Fetlife and enter your location. If you search events, it'll show events closest to you, and that's how I find out about some of these places. There will be play parties and BDSM classes, and those are usually held at dungeons. And if you find one dungeon, you'll have access to people with firsthand knowledge about your local scene and they can help you out further. I don't know how different it might be in Texas, because yeah I live in California. If you're looking for a mistress to fuck you in the ass and step on your dick around here, you don't have to go very far at all.
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>>8303944
>>8303443
Look for domme ads. Dommes who don't operate out of their house or own a dungeon will usually rent space from a dungeon.
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>>8302380
Yeah, honestly manipulative pretty much covers it. I don't know how purposeful he is with that, but I wound up breaking up with him in any case. There have been a lot of isses lately, this being one of them.
I really appreciate your words regarding the situation, because it's hard to keep track of all the small things that can be "off" about a long term relationship.
>>8302389
We had a functioning safeword system, it's just that he didn't use it very effectively.
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>>8301566
There are basically two possibilities:

- he might be willing to let you dom him, but is afraid for some reason. You can probably get there faster by bringing up the question

- he really only wants to be dominant and your desires may not be compatible
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>>8304338
>>8304402
Ah shit lmao I missed this one
Hope you find someone better

I just dropped my gf at the airport ;;
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