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Why haven’t artists who draw Hypno art heard of anatomy?
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had my 3rd ever handsfree orgasm last night, ask me anything...

it's not quite as physically pleasurable as masturbating but i have to say, when you go over the edge the trance be hittin hard. probably the only time i get like, really "lost in it" if you know what i mean.
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Anyone know what's up with hypnopics-collective?
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>>8570719
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>>8571268
Hate to break it to you anon, but that's going to happen. Welcome to /d/, where nothing is sacred.
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>>8571040
m. i fully nutted and everything, not claiming to have had a "dry orgasm." those might be real but idk, no real way to prove it.
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Where are the good hypnosis files for becoming addicted to anal
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I love women who are this hypnotized.
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>>8572932
I'd love to be that hypnotized
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>>8570572
Unaware stuff is the best.
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>>8573344
But you're a gay male, not a female.
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>>8574040
If I'm hypnotized I won't know that
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>>8574025
same artist also did >>8570613
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>>8572926
the most normal stuff really, the free fiona clearwater/jacqueline powers hands-free videos on youtube. they're pretty vanilla. i've pirated a fair number of different people's paid files but they're either just bad or they go in a bimbo/slave direction which i'm not into at all.

my tips:
1. take a couple day break from nutting.
2. don't listen to the same file over and over. if you know the file too well there aren't any surprises, and you start to be like "well i'm only this horny and the file's almost over, so i'm probably not gonna nut" which is counterproductive.
3. if you don't have a wet orgasm, DO NOT masturbate afterwards. i break this rule a lot, it's hard not to go for it because it only takes like 30 seconds to have a really good cum after a file ends. BUT if you really want to experience a wet HFO you have to resist that urge.
4. try getting into different mental states - if you run, go running first. try a basic yoga routine or stretches. if you drink coffee, try drinking a tall cup before your session. have a beer or two, or a glass of wine. or maybe one of those bob marley mellow mood drinks lol. i like to do at least 2 things like this, different combos on different days - for me at least, when there's like, unfamiliar bodily sensations, it really helps me to get zonked out because i'm like, whoa what the fuck is that? like, don't get too fucked up, just a little different.
5. this is for guys only, and it's a little odd. i've actually only had success when something is supporting my erection physically. you can use like a pillow or anything - when you're lying down, put it on your mons pubis 'north' of your dick so that when you're erect, your dick can lean against it. i'm not sure why this makes so much of a difference - i feel like if my erection is just up in to open air, my kegels get tired, and also it just gets cold, especially if i'm wet from precum. its much comfier this way and you can focus more intensely.
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>>8574864
i liked Fiona until I realized her files were full of hidden suggestions that prevent anyone else's files from working, so I quit her shit.
The few others that come close are ruined either because they have shitty voices, a potato mic or they're fat hambeasts in RL.
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>>8574702
Is that Snake-Trap's work?
If so, is it new?
I thought Snake-Trap quit because all their paid stuff kept getting redistributed for free.
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>>8575504
We all know it's a site full of mc stories, please at least put some context on why you linked this one.
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>>8575550
geez if you're going to draw me atleast get it right. i'm actually way more fit than that
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>>8575733
I'm assuming it's just cause it's good and new. I really liked the VHS story from that author, I don't know if I've read anything else
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>>8575267
wadda hell? who says that's a thing? for one thing, that's like... some rp bullshit. "hidden suggestions" are not a real thing. and nobody had better (you) me about subliminals or whatever, that shit is so dumb. whenever I hear some stupid ass whisper track, that file is canceled. Ditto for the word subconscious honestly. Can't take people seriously when they don't even care enough to make their pseudo psychology up-to-date. Just to be clear, I think pseudopsychology is important to hypnosis, in the sense that you're giving people a, shall we say, "way to feel" - eg a mini technique that I like is "whenever you think about opening your eyes, you'll find yourself dropping even deeper" because you can actively test it and push that button for yourself. whereas talking about the subconscious is lame because even if real you wouldn't be aware of it, and in fact being aware of it tells you that it isn't happening.

anyway yeah, she's just literally the only person who talks fast, other than Chewtoy who's really good but his files are short and I've done them all too many times. All of his non-vanilla files are very bdsm or very vague also, but his vanillas are nice. I guess talking slow is easier to record or something but damn it gets so boring. Hypnotists are like "ffooocccuuussss onnn my woooorrrrrerdddsss...." and like, I would love to, but it's hard when you're only giving me like five words a minute. I would say both fiona and chewtoy speak at a medium-slow rate compared to normal conversation but even that is so much better. With a lot of people I actually just play their files and 1.25x or 1.5x on youtube and it's much more listenable even with the audio artifacts that creates.

anyway try chewtoy, I think his website is gentlybitten. it is a guy but he doesn't have like, douche voice.
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>>8576594
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>>8577171
Agreed, and pretty fucking stupid

Hypnotist here
But also someone who's mind is too active and paranoid to relax enough for hypnosis

Just because hypnosis isn't working for you - doesn't mean its psuedoscience RP bullshit.

That said, I've met other "hypnotists" that are actually just doing shitty RP. It's super annoying. Especially on a discord for actual hypnotists and subjects. RP fags need to go somewhere else and stop wasting time in DM's.

Do you actually go under listening to those files, pal, or do you just listen to them to jerk off?
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Is there any lobotomazation or explicit IQ loss?
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>>8577587
Sure. I just got some reading your post.
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I’m actually looking for this comic where a teacher or principal or whatever hypnotizes one of her students into becoming a lesbian when she says a keyword.
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>>8576594
she was straight up saying it in sections of a file that you were hypnotized into forgetting. i only picked up on it after I'd listened to a few of her files a whole bunch of times when I didnt quite fall into a trance.
took me months to get put under by someone else after that. had to use Nikki's "erase all post-hypnotic suggestions" file
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>>8577552
please read more thoroughly. i didn't say hypnosis was pseudoscience. i said that anything relating to the "subconscious" or to "subliminals" is pseudoscience. like i said, i've had several HFO's with these files, and it's not like i'm capable of just doing that on my own. so in the sense that guided meditation is a real thing, hypnosis is a real thing, certainly.

I maybe shouldn't have used "good pseudopsychology" as a concept - what i mean is that, at least for me, effective hypnosis techniques frequently involve, like, theory of mind sorts of things - directing your attention, focusing on things, imagining, etc, which you can relate to and "experience" in a direct way, whereas with things that are supposed to affect your "subconscious" - well first of all the "subconscious" is not a discrete Thing so that's my main issue with it, but also there's no way to think "ok, so what would it feel like for my subconscious to listen to something?" - basically, even if, as a hypnotist, your theory is that someone's "subconscious" will listen to something they aren't aware of, why would you bring that up in the middle of a file? it just doesn't add anything, and for me it's really distracting.

anyway that's a bit of a tangent. my point is basically, imagine if you're listening to a hypnosis file and the person is like "ok, now imagine your pineal gland attuning to mother earth." like, some really out there pseudoscience. that would be a pretty offputting thing to encounter.

also, i'd say that if your "mind is too active" for you to experience hypnosis, it's not really your fault because like i was saying most hypnosis recordings are soo fucking slooow. imo standard audiobook pacing should be the goal, if not faster. if you watch videos of stage hypnotists they generally keep up a rather rapid rhythm, and i dont think it should be any different for recordings - if anything the voice has to be more engaging since it's the only sense you're using.
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>>8577985
but if her "hidden suggestions" prevented anyone else's files from working, why did the "erase suggestions" file work? is nikki a more powerful genie?

also, since you said you had trouble going into trance after noticing that the suggestions were in there.... are you sure it wasn't actually because you realized those suggestions were supposed to be affecting you? like, if you're starting from the premise that suggestions like that really work, then once you were made aware that you had listened to a file with those suggestions, you'd necessarily make that true for yourself - since if you just shrugged and said "eh whatever" you'd be admitting suggestions like that don't work, and breaking your "contract" with fiona. that is, you like the idea of her having actually controlled you, so if you didn't follow that suggestion after being made aware of it, then that would mean she didn't "control" you. which like, if that's the game you want to play, you do you.

let me be clear, i'm not like, stanning for fiona or anything lol. there's somehow literally no hypnotist that can keep the word 'slave' out of their vocabulary, so i'm not going to say anyone is 'good' or 'tasteful'.
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>>8577707
What's wrong with my post?
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>>8579079
Anon's just being a smartass by reaching for the low hanging fruit. Reading all of these fucking blog post ITT with no images attached to them is what will actually cause you mental trauma.
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>>8578131
like i said, it took months
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>>8574702
sauce pls
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>>8579649
That's ackanime, before they went ghey.
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>>8579413
sorry. i'm only here because you can't call people bullshit rpers on tumblr or reddit without getting cancelled. people are so invested in getting their nut that they dont care about what's really really real, man. i called someone out for being a shithead rper in an IRC a long time ago and man do people circle the wagons. its not my business really, people can do what they want, i just feel like it represents my fetish badly - like when what the outer world sees is dickhead neckbeards being like "you're truly in my power" like it's a real thing, it's not a good look. there is actually incredible stuff you can do with hypnosis but i feel like these rpers make us seem like some kind of NLP/PUA dickheads. anyway i do apologize, i come here like twice a year after trying to be involved in tumblr/fetlife hypnosis groups and vent. paradoxically i feel like the people here despite explicitly masturbating to hypnosis have more similar views to me than like, tumblr and reddit 'hypnotists' who are really like invested in it as an identity.

i would post images but i dont even like hentai anymore except sleepymaid, and everyone's seen every sleepymaid.

>>8579079
that wasn't me before but i also hate your post. try alcohol + weed if you want to feel stupid. it really works. when i'm crossfaded i'm like "uhh i'm so retarded and horny"
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>>8579828
you are the biggest and most pathetic "stop licking what I don't like" shitposter that I have ever seen.
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>>8579872
liking* before you jump on my minor typo.
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>>8579828
We don't give a shit about you or your identity. Let us fap in peace. You're on /d/ for fucks sake, you know what we're about.
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https://twitter.com/Cori_Vas/status/1141991179350958080
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>>8577877
sounds like something by sleepygimp, probably has something to do with that girl detective series he does
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>>8577877
Is it this?
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>>8570973
how did you even do it?
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Bakunyuu Saimin Nurse ~Yakan Shift Haramase Choukyou~
https://vndb.org/v24956

Its time for another quickie review of a recent japanese hypnosis game for the benefit of anyone here that actually plays these things. It should actually be quick this time because the hypnosis content is pretty minimal outside of the plot.

You play from the view of a hospitalized man who keeps having dreams in which a mysterious figure uses hypnosis and key phrases to make the 3 beautiful nurses that work in this private hospital engage in various sex acts. Whilst awake, you try using one of these phrases yourself and it functions perfectly.

Getting to the actual sex scenes, hypnotism rarely features beyond getting the girls into a state where they will go along with whatever you ask. The only memorable exceptions being making your target ignore you while you watch them masturbate on the toilet, putting one nurse into a stupor and casually fucking her in various ways while all she can do is moan or almost pass out from not resisting a throat fuck and lastly having one of the nurses believe she is a child so she spends the scene calling you papa as you play doctor and nurse.

Unless you can still enjoy hypnosis when its only used as context or you are a big fan of Takahashi Record`s art then you can quite happily skip this game. Big disappointment after the previous game from this company and artist team up.

Finally, a word of warning. When you install the game you will be given an option to install some extra content. That content is all scat and will add a second/third choice to almost every scene. Strangely enough whoever made the CG set that ended up on ex/hitomi/wherever missed that option. Official website confirms that it exists if anyone feels like not believing a random anon post.
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>>8579828

Lobotomized women are hot
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I wish 10% of this was even possible in real life.
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>>8580147

Yep
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>>8570563
Why do Japanese artists think this pose is sexy
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>>8581101

It shows off the goods?
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>>8575405
No, that's not new. I wrote the script for that around a decade ago when I was in regular contact with him. I'm to this day baffled how poor a grasp of the written word most artists have on their own.
As far as Snake-Trap not existing, at the time I was speaking to him he was getting into doing regular artwork for a video game company or something, basically trying to be a regular artist and he was distantly paranoid about someone discovering his pornography and his family finding out or whatever.
Haven't heard of him in years, let alone -from- him. Just another bygone creator.

I'm still writing stories, if it's any consolation!
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>>8579978
i'm not sure why you guys are getting mad, i'm not even talking about /d/.... i really dont have a problem with the people here generally. it's kind of worrying that nobody can read though? i didn't say anything about my identity, i said i don't like people who make 'i'm a highly skilled erotic hypnotist' into their identity. i guess just seeing the word identity sets you off though.

for literally the third time: hypnosis is fully real but a lot of hypnotists are bullshitters. that's all i'm saying. please fap in peace i don't mean any harm.

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>>8580596
i do mean harm to you though. take this to a gore thread or some shit. ew.

>>8580262
to be specific, 200mg caffeine pill (~2 cups off coffee) + glass of wine, 5 min of yoga/stretching then i think one of jacqueline powers' extra deep hypnosis youtube files, a cup of dark coffee + 5 min of stretching again, then powers' youtube hfo file. i usually don't actually cum quite when they say like "orgasm.... now!" but a little after as they're like "and the orgasm is so strong and it keeps going on and on" - they do that for like a good 30sec-minute or so usually and i nut somewhere in there. i have also been practicing self-hypnosis pretty regularly for a couple months though. my new goal is self-hypnosis hfo. i think i was pretty close last night but i ended up masturbating instead :/
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>>8580301
>non-free
damnit
I can never find good free ones. I'd search for them but I am unfortunately aware of how virus laden most sites with that kind of content are.
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>>8581327
sorry.
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>Same images reposted over and over - Check
>Garbage 3D render comic posted - Check
>Full autismos bickering over if hypnosis actually works or not - Check

Thread's complete boys! Let's pack it up.
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>>8577552
do you have... hypnotist discord
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>>8583070
I'm Jaraxxus and I approve this message!
Also, your world is DOOMED!
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>>8582931
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Got a couple of new ones for you guys

https://exhentai.org/g/1436968/cbd75476d3/
https://exhentai.org/g/1436976/dcb416e519/
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>>8586310
I can't read this shit. What do you think I am, bilingual?
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>>8586310
I can't read this shit. Why do you post broken links to your private site?
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Anyone got some hentais or stories about people orgasming on command? It's so common that it's hard to narrow it down to ones where that's more than just a thing that happens.
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>>8587953
http://www.gregariousfrog.com/svengali/svengali.html

The tag is, I believe, "orgasm control."
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>>exhentai
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>>kek-ageddon
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>>8588137
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Does anyone actually enjoy the creepy-looking men that crop up so often in this stuff? Just seeing that turns me off.
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>>8588094
Thanks. I was hoping for recommendations, though - a lot of the stories that come up from these sorts of "general searches" tend to be ones that just have it in there somewhere, not ones that focus on it.
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>>8590261
niggerlips in that pic there doesn't even register as a 4 on the ugly NTR bastard scale. Is the standard lanky, featureless gray man with no eyes so much to ask for? Why are you putting so much detail into drawing hairy man ass and not on drawing the cute girl?

Supposedly it's to enhance the story so that the sex is all the more degrading by making the MC look like the stereotypical otaku reader. Do japs really have no self respect? The artist are essentially insulting their own customers by drawing them as these grotesque apes, and they aren't bothered in the slightest, it just turns them on.

We will never have a say in the matter because we pirate all of the content regardless, our opinions are worth jack-shit. So no, I don't enjoy it.
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>>8588137
just google how to access it... we explain this too much
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>>8591166
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What games involve women getting brainwashed into being ultra sluts?
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>>8585558
luv wave
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if you're watching fireworks tomorrow, you're going to be hypnotized by them. you will focus on each flash. if you see the arc of a rocket as it rises, you will follow it, and when it bursts, you will blink. your eyes will flicker from that flash to another and each time you'll instantly blink. your eyes will be closed for a fraction of a second and you'll instantly drop down - but you'll open your eyes after the briefest instant to find another flash to drop down again. all you get is a flash of a trance.

when the bursts get rapid and come in clusters you'll be forced to follow them as fast as you can. you will race from one flash to the next and savor the deep instant when the flash makes you blink. if the fireworks get intense, too fast for you to keep flickering from flash to flash, you can unfocus your vision and stop following the bursts. stop blinking, let your gaze blur. take in the whole sky at once, let the pounding sound wash over you. be aware that if you try to focus on one boom or burst it will make you blink, and drop for an instant, and so will the next, until you unfocus and blur again, and relax in the tide of sound.
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Pitiful.
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Assuming you can just roll your eyes and move on at the sight of "mind control app" and the obedient doll style of mind control does not annoy you (though she does react to pleasure), this is pretty good. Yeah I see that scat tag. Its only on the last page which is the 3rd one from the afterword/credits page.

[M (Amano Ameno)] Kyonyuu Onna Joushi Saimin Nikuningyou [English] [Hong_Mei_Ling, MisterJ167] [Digital]
[M (天野雨乃)] 巨乳女上司催眠肉人形 [英訳] [DL版]
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>>8592578
translation never
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https://exhentai.org/g/1441659/fb051bd367/
https://exhentai.org/g/1441661/fe02bde71a/
https://exhentai.org/g/1441664/8fff342495/
https://exhentai.org/g/1441665/26980aeb67/
https://exhentai.org/g/1441666/524d2765d4/

Mind control is somewhat subtle, but still like this series overall
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This one definitely has mind control elements in it, so enjoy!
"I understand, my master~"

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You know what is one of my favorite things about mind control?
Is to have the person think they are someone else. Brownie points if they have inconsistencies in their memory

Enjoy

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What are some good hypno communities? Discord, forums, whatever. Be it for art creators and sharing/commissions, actual hypno/files, just discussion, whatever.
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>>8595185
Evenicle has some
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>>8599130
Wow, he hypnotized her to become blond!
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>>8604135
>Now, Alice! Get pregnant!!!
>Understood. Alice will get pregnant.
>Hold on a minute, I wasn't expecting THAT!
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>>8604155
>my fetish and /d/ humor collide
Glorious
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>>8574864
So I was just going through all the boards when I saw this thread and this post. And I thought to myself, that I never had a handfree orgasm or ever tried to have one. For context I last fapped one day ago. So I searched up these Fiona hypnosis videos listened to one, but that only got me into the mood. So I decided to watch another one. And this one, holy shit, it made the magic happen. Needless to say I just shot my biggest load in years if not ever, surely my most intense one. Still in awe that it happend. Now I'm just ready to go to sleep, but know that you made this day unforgetabble for me anon, just know that and thank you. Without you I wouldn't have gotten the idea.
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>>8604279
>>8574864
lold
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Whenever I see hypnosis, it's almost always one of two things. Either the hypnosis is already done, or the hypnosis is in-progress and going exceedingly well. There's almost never any resistance, no struggle, not from hypnotist nor hypnotee.
Why is this?
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>>8574864
Haven’t cum in about 4 days in order to try anal stuff but I figured i’d give this a try since I hadn’t in a while. Got me real close and leaking but no dice. Gonna try again in a few days
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>>8604720
there are some outliers i've read
>i'm going to fake being hypnotised (then boundaries are pushed until fun stuff happens)
>hypnosis works! i can finally taste sweet revenge! (but actually the situation is reversed and the fool was hypnotised all along)
and of course the handful where it works, but not instantly
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>>8605162
case in point
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>>8605164
Does this have a name?
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>>8605219
Make sure you grab the second (and final) part
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>>8574852
Assuming this isn't them >>>/aco/3309638 having posted something to the internet for the first time not on their HF but on 4chan and not having been on their tumblr that got kil't; they were originally BlackSheep(?), started the HF and a twitter with the new name right after.
If you do have stuff from their tumblr, which I hadn't heard about until too late, pls post.
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anyone know a good tentacle mind control hentai i could watch?
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>>8604279
nice bro! it's pretty incredible the first time it happens. the first time I did it I kept trying to do it again for like a week but I would get like hung up on weird detais of the videos. At least for me I kind of need to wait a while and forget how exactly the script goes. If you want to try a different one, jacqueline powers is also worthwhile but i haven't found any others that are good. There's also more fiona files that you can get via eight chan hypno, takes a while to figure out their filesharing stuff tho.

>>8604910
I hadn't really thought about it but I guess I described basically the same approach people use for having successful prostate orgasms. I've definitely seen a lot of anal orgasm hypnosis too, and honestly normal HFO videos are probably fun with a butt object... man I need to get back into prostate stuff.

>>8604404
you think we're rping bro??? go home. we are ascending to a higher plane. literally felt myself grow like 3 galaxy brain stages when I HFO'd. we will leave you in the dust.
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What h games let you brainwash women into being ultra sluts?
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>>8609322
>Games
There are few actual erotic games, most are VN's with shitty filler (CG hunting, stock RPG Maker combat, minigames).

Anyway, I'm not aware of any translated japanese eroge that feature hypnosis & slutification.

But there are plenty of corruption focused /weg/s (Western), and sometimes it's induced by hypnosis. I won't say they're good, but they're at least in english... most of the time anyway. (You can get them via f95, or /weg/ general on /aco/)
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>>8609322
Better question, which ones brainwash you into being an ultra slut
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>>8610234
fuck off nerd
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>>8610234
Half of those are made by western artists you fucking retard
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>>8610243
>>8610244
.t seething "western art" fanbois.
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>>8609322
the only decent mind control game i can think of thats translated is the nobleman's retort. You don't turn them into "ultra" sluts but you do brainwash pretty much every girl in the game to be a whore, even if the main focus is one just 2 girls.
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>>8610234
You missed mine which was western.
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>>8610234
just because it's western dosn't mean it isn't anime.
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>>8570559
I don’t understand. Why would someone put a pastie on one’s vagina? Isn’t that like putting a sticker on the end of you dick? Seems like it would make everything harder.
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>>8580553
Sources?
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>>8611310
The lucky guy gets to pull it off, like that film on a TV or air conditioner that is so satisfying to remove.
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>>8611310
It's teasing. Like lingerie, but even smaller. It hides just enough to get you excited.
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>>8611659
>Still posting western art....
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>>8605162
I did say almost. And that's not really what I'm asking. Why is there so rarely any fight in them?
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>>8613605
per-page costs in commissions?
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>>8613605
well, as i said there's a few where the target resists but there has to be porn happening at one point else it won't get anyone's attention
so noone will draw something where nothing works and the hypnotist just doesn't get anything done to its victim
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>>8613675
honey drops is probably the one where there's the most long-lasting hostility between them that i know of
you probably already read it though
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>>8570973
Do you think this is mostly genetics? I didn't know people even struggled with hands free orgasms, I could have one so easily with any kind of hypno vid. That said, I have wet dreams a lot if I go a few days without fapping so maybe I just have an especially sensitive prostate
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>>8613605
Well a oneshot doesn't really have a choice, they need to catch readers with porn.
If you want to see drawn out resistance scenes then make sure it's an actual series (tankobon) or read VNs.
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>>8611310
Gets around Japanese censorship laws.
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Fuck you captcha, You made the errors, not me.
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I love it when the guy uses mind control to change the bitch into a lovey dovey girlfriend

https://exhentai.org/g/1448487/0e1f4c2971/
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>love hypnosis
>hate identity death
What do?
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>>8620619
You're forgetting there's two sides: hypnotist and hypnotized.
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>>8620633
I don't follow.
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>>8620619
Every notion of "I am this" or "I am that" are unreal and foolish because they come from the "I" or the ego-sense that thinks it is the doer, when it is actually merely a reflection of pure awareness or unconditioned Self (Atman).
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>>8620619
It's not identity death if it's just the person hypnotized to THINK they were x the whole time.
I mean, if you take a hard drive, put it in another computer, and then update the software, does it make it a completely different computer?

I mean, Cheeky Angel was to believe to be a TG manga, when in reality, it was a surprise MC manga the whole time. Would you really consider that Identity Death?

To me, Identity Death is just a term used by the majority of people who do not understand what it means to combine MC and TG
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>>8620619
>Afraid of losing identity
>Thinks "free will" exists
lmfao
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>>8620619
I think there's an in between not hypnotized and you're basically not you anymore. Like is someone using hypnosis to curb smoking losing their smoker identity or are they themselves but not a smoker?
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>>8620881
>It's not identity death if it's just the person hypnotized to THINK they were x the whole time.
As in person X has been hypnotized into being person Y? If there's some implication of permanency there, then that's as identity death as it gets.

>>8621151
>Like is someone using hypnosis to curb smoking losing their smoker identity or are they themselves but not a smoker?
It's tricky, isn't it? How much can you change someone's mind before they're not them anymore?
I think it depends on intent and result. If a person goes on some spiritual pilgrimage, learns about themselves and stuff, and comes back a completely changed man, that's not identity death. But someone being completely brainwashed into a mindless fuckpet? That definitely is. And again, permanency counts for a lot. If you can snap your fingers and said fuckpet is back to normal, then that's suddenly not identity death anymore.

Haven't gotten a very good "What do?" yet. Is there a solution?
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>>8621236
>Haven't gotten a very good "What do?" yet. Is there a solution?
Here's one. This isn't me, but how the typical story goes for people who listen to the Bambi files.
>Listen to Bambi files
>Finally able to go deep into hypnosis and have a HFO
>Feel so good after waking up that I want to listen to them again
>Keep listening to the files, fuck it feels so good!
>Have a strong compulsion to buy girly clothes, and eventually give in
>Files are much stronger when dressed up
>Clothes are hard to take off, but it's so much fun anyway. Oh well.
>Buy a dildo and suck on it so I can take the uniform off after I'm done listening to files
>Begin to feel anxious when I'm not dressed in uniform
>Wear lingerie beneath my regular work clothes
>Still listening to files and moving onto more advanced files while all of these things happen
>"Hi, my name is Bambi *giggles*"
>HOLY SHIT WTF DID I JUST SAY
>Realized too late that I created a cock crazed bimbo airhead named Bambi
>Try to go cold turkey
>But fuck, listening to them feels too good. It's like a drug addiction
>Bambi becomes more forceful and stronger
>Get really scared
>Delete the files and throw away the girly clothes and dildo
>Bambi figures out what's up, forces me into the background and locks me away
>Can only sense pink and softness
>She only lets me out if I ask permission, but only rarely




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