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Rules:
>post thinspo
>stay hydrated
>no bully pls

FAQ:
>http://pastebin.com/raw/k616ZXUw

Low Calorie Food & Drinks List:
>http://pastebin.com/raw/VmmYeLYN

Fasting Resources:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3946160/
https://www.reddit.com/r/intermittentfasting/wiki/studies
https://idmprogram.com/difference-calorie-restriction-fasting-fasting-27/

Feel free to post questions and requests, report about your progress, and ask for support.

To get helpful replies make sure to post:
>current stats: sex, age, height, weight
>tdee and your deficit
>highest and lowest weight
>goal weight
>preferred method of losing weight
>aesthetic you are going for
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Just binged again on 2000cal, im 50lbs overweight and im pathetic and weak with no self control.

Roast me please. Im such a failure
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>>13819553
Yikes
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>>13819553
Get off the stage you fat fuck!
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>>13819553
Plato never said this.
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Day 2 of my water fast

Not even hungry yet. I just hate thinking about all the food in my fridge I haven't eaten yet that will go bad/expire over the next few days if I don't eat it !!!!
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>>13819641
Same here, drinking salt water right now and it tastes so fucking bad.
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>>13819641
use this to learn to not buy so much food
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what if I'm already pretty skinny (6'0 155lb low bf)? Will fasting have any real benefits?
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>>13819553
saw this image on crystal.cafe
pls go back femcel
>>13819803
post body
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>>13819811
why
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>>13819814
so i can analyze your strengths and weeknesses to create the best diet and workout plan
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>>13819817
*poses like a fag in the mirror for 10 minutes* ok roast me
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>>13819837
ur just kinda chubby. shave your gross stomach hair and stop eating and you will look better
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>>13819845
>shave stomach hair
Lol maybe
I'm legit not chubby, my titties kinda are but that's gyno, I don't expect you to agree though
I expected better advice than 'eat less' though my dude
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>>13819837
you look like a 14 year old boy who does nothing but play fortnite all day and eat potato chips. go for a run and lift some weights you doughy bitch
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>>13819837
You're not chubby by any stretch of the imagination, you just don't have a toned body whatsoever. Work on developing muscle to fill out.
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>>13819854
i do lift weights and eat healthy so idk
need to lift bigger weights I guess
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>>13819858
What do you eat?
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>>13819860
food
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>>13819866
sick answer faggot, you're 'expect advice' but you can't give a straight answer
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>>13819860
*inhales*
eggs
Nuts (Brazil, macadamia)
Bananas
Low fat Cottage cheese
Wholewheat pasta
Whole grain rice
Fish (tuna, salmon, sardines)
chicken
Lean beef mince
Broccoli
spinach
Sweet potato
Tomato
Dried figs and apricots
some milk

That's p much it
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>>13819869
wasn't me b
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>>13819553
>Roast me
Sure let me just render some of that fat off in the pan first.
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>>13819881
ok my bad, that's a lot of carbs but you're getting some good fiber, vitamins and protein, I'd look into a plan to start seriously strength training
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>>13819900
thanks my dude, i have been meaning to for a while, just need to stop being a pussy and get to the gym 2bh. i have that irrational(?) fear of looking goofy and ending up on one of those gym fails compilations
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>>13819908
god damn that shit is not real, literally nobody gives a single shit about you in public, gym or otherwise, it's all in your head, plus you have to realize everyone at the gym was there for the first time at one point
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>>13819653
Why salt water anon?
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>>13819928
Electroyles are essential on a prolonged fast, it'll avoid feeling lightheaded and dizziness, and salt water won't break or stunt your fast.
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>>13820071
But fuck it though, I broke it with some refined carbs and sugar. But here we go again, this fucking cycle that never ends, fucking yay, shitty fucking life.
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>>13820076
it stops when you start taking your workouts seriously. youre not there until you start looking forward to your workouts, worrying that you're gonna miss them, push yourself to do better than last time, and feel a buzz once you're done.
i'm sorry, i'll see myself out. out to /fit/
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>>13819928
>>13820071
also you heart will stop if you lose all of the salt in your body
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>>13820130
is painless ? is a good way to commit suicide ?
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>>13820137
No you, a heart attack will not feel good, it's also not a particularly quick way to die, you can also be saved.

If you're serious about a quick and painless way to die that you won't come back from you should blow your brains out or use an exit mask.
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>>13819653
>>13819641
try some zero cal sports drink. Vitiman water zero works for me.
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>>13820196
That's not a water fast, read about xenobiotics
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>>13819837
Fast, you still have fat in you.
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>>13820202
read about physics.
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>>13820130
>>13820071

Good to know. Thanks anon
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>>13820225
Great response, my point is, and I'm not trying to flame you but a water fast is very different from intermittent fasting. You can drink all the zero calorie soda, sports drinks, black coffee, or whatever you want while you're doing a normal fast. When you're water fasting though literally any form of nutrients you intake will partially negate the positive effects of restricting yourself to only water and salt. That's the reason you can't even drink black coffee (although the calories are almost impossible to measure, they're still there) or vitamins/supplements while water fasting.
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>>13820240
is green tea fine?
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>>13820252
for normal intermittent fasting/time restricted eating yes, for a strict water fast no
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>>13819475
What are good ways to suppress your appetite/distract yourself from hunger? I don't want to use diet pills or anything like that if possible.
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>>13820289
caffeine and lots of water. if you're planning on a fast eat less and less leading up to it. your stomach will shrink. decaf coffee is also a serious appetite suppressant.
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>>13820076
Clearly fasting isn't working out for you. Restricting heavily works for some people, but in a lot of people it just creates a cycle of binging and fasting that, while unhealthy, is also just rather ineffective. I'd recommend creating a calorie deficit and counting your calories effectively. That way you can eat what you want, as long as it fits into your allocated amount of calories per day.
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Boy / 20 / 165cm / ~50kg / Giant Faggot

is there any way to make my legs skinnier than they currently are?
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>>13820304
Whats your workout routine?
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>>13820304
cop that mf wasting disease my guy
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I’m 169 cm and 61 kg
I’m female and my goal weight is 55kg for now. (I plan to go lower if i hit them)
My heaviest weight was 80 kg 2 years ago and my lowest was 59 kg last year after a surgery i had. (After that i was a stable weight of 63kg till i lost control and went up to 68kg in the beginning of the year)
Now I’m back to 61 kg.
Right now i eat 100-800 cal a day and survive on diet coke and apples/oranges.
I don’t do hard workouts but i do yoga for 40 minutes where i stretch myself.
And desu? I just want to be skinny so i can be less embarrassed about me. I haven’t worn something without sleeves since I'm 12. I just want to feel confident in my body
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>>13820304
You still got time to get on HRT
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>>13820354
Are you only eating apples and oranges and drinking diet cokes?
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>>13820357
recruiting to the tranny corps i see
tbhon hrt will help ppl look young
it will also help them grow tits
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>>13820354
>>13820358
also I'm sure you don't want to post a picture of yourself but your age would be helpful
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>>13820298
Yeah, I'll do that, thanks anon
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>>13820363
This
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>>13820354
You don't know how to eat properly and thus you do dumb shit like trying to survive on diet coke and fruit. Guess what, it is not going to work, you're either going to be hospitalized or rebound and eat a shitton, maybe puke it out again, and develop an eating disorder.

Don't be an idiot. Your BMR is like 1400 kcal so as long as you do some light physical activity you can eat like a normal person and lose weight. And you're actually going to stick with it and be able to maintain a BMI of like 19.

There is actually a magic way to lose weight and then stay at that weight and I am surprised it isn't being repeated in these threads non-stop, it's called Intermittent Fasting. I've been doing it for 2 years now, I do not even look at what I'm eating, I am eating every day until I am satiated and I am an extremely healthy weight. Now imagine if you did do IF and counted calories, eating at a moderate caloric deficit of like 200 kcal. Doing IF will eat up your body fat like no tomorrow, if you want to accelerate this whole process while staying healthy I recommend doing cardio in a fasted state so your liver's glycogen stores get used up.
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>>13820358
The last 7 days i have had 1 apple or 1 orange a day. Which i count as 80 cal - i allow myself a chai latte every morning that is 50 cal so i feel at least a bit energized in the beginning of the day. I have been doing this for a week now.
The past week i went from 300cal to 1000 cals and noticed that i got less easier full, that’s why i do this one meal ‘fast’ now till my body gives up
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>>13820363
I’m 19

>>13820380
That’s actually really helpful! Thank you!
I will look into it! :)
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>>13820394
Oh and as a general guideline on what to eat, just stick with unprocessed food (i.e. no refined sugar or fats) as much as possible. Fish is fine, the rest of animal products are mostly trash. Keto is a meme, don't fall for it. Tea and coffee helps through fasting windows (it is easier to fast in the morning than evening psychologically btw), stick with water otherwise.
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>>13820399
>Keto is a meme, don't fall for it.
elaborate, pls
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>>13820399
I’m pescatarian (no meet only fish) anyways so that might work.
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>>13820380
>>13820381
>>13820394
This dude knows what's up. Although diet soda has no measurable calories and although it's a myth that zero calorie sweeteners cause you to gain weight it's still bad for you. Drink water.

I don't know where you're getting 50 calorie chai lattes but cut them out and drink black coffee. If you can't handle black coffee then don't drink it at all.

Eating a gigantic salad with a very low calorie dressing and some protein will afford much more energy for around the same amount of calories as a day of oranges.

Most important is doing intermittent fasting/time restricted eating. It will literally change your life. It changed mine, I've been eating one meal a day for a long ass time now and I don't think I'll ever change.

As far as 'getting skinny' goes literally anyone can change the size of their body, but people have different body types. You're 19 which is a bonus as you're still very young and will have a much easier time compared to a woman twice your age. But if you have naturally wide hips, or if you're an endomorph you will have a harder time losing weight. There is literally no excuse though, there is literally no better way than to cut you calories. That's the end all be all answer, eat below the amount of calories your body expends and you will lose weight.

>>13820399
Ketosis isn't a meme, it works better for some people. It doesn't work well for me that's why I do IF/OMAD.
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>>13820403
It's an online cult that thrives off of confirmation bias. For every person who has made keto work there is another who is constantly fatigued and dizzy, smells like piss because of ketone bodies or simply failed because keto is an extremely demanding way to plan your diet which has been developed for people with epilepsy and not weight loss, and excludes you from partaking in pretty much any and all social situations that involve food.

Furthermore we have no idea right now what the long term effects of the keto diet are in regards to the usual dangers that are associated with saturated fats and meats in general, such as cardiovascular and kidney disease. It's true that keto helps with a range of issues because of Alzheimer because of mechanism which are partially understood, but so does a diet based on unprocessed plant foods and fish, eliminating refined carbs and unhealthy fats, which is the diet which is still endorsed by the medical community.

Keto is also full of pseudoscience and science denial and a shitton of quacks who are trying to lure you into their cult / sell you stuff. It's worse than vegan doctors desu.
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>>13820427
Mostof what you're saying is true, and there is a ton of confirmation bias in the community. It really is toxic, but there is no denying that ketosis is a real state your body will enter if done correctly and depending on your body type you will guaranteed lose weight when in ketosis.

IF is immensely better in every conceivable way though.
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>>13820436
What about IF(1 meal a day) with Ketosis? I mean, I prefer eating eggs with veggies than fucking beans and rice.
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>>13820419
Yes ketosis works — IF is actually pretty similar —, but the keto diet is still a meme. It's no wonder that it is so popular on Reddit, because of their highly autistic user base incapable of leading a healthy life, which uncritically eats up anything that appeals to them by promising to have your cake and being able to eat it too.
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>>13820440
If you can do it, sure, do it. But keep in mind that keto will get bland very fast, there are not a lot of recipes options. While some healthy carb staples allow for great variety, such as whole wheat bread with variousspreads and toppings, then you have a multitude of potato and whole wheat pasta dishes etc. And brown rice and beans can be pretty cool every now and then, I usually prepare it with fish, veggies and some onions sauce.

Personally I tried doing OMAD for some time because of schedule issues, but it's pretty tough. Eating and digesting your food becomes this whole multiple hour long event which noticeably impacts you for that duration of time. I much prefer just getting home now, preparing my series of meals and eating them over the course of the next 4 hours while taking care of my household, watching TV, playing vidya, chatting with friends etc.
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>>13820419
>cut ur calories
Yes, that’s what I’m doing

(One half pack is 50 cal ->)
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>>13820440
You're entering a very dangerous realm when you start mixing and try to get the positives of both. You can end up severely damaging yourself if you're not careful and don't take it slow at the start while you're getting used to it. Long term negative effects are in no way worth 'being skinny'. If you are considering or the other, do IF or OMAD (to clarify, OMAD is IF but IF is not necessarily OMAD if that makes sense). You can definitely do IF/OMAD while eating eggs and veggies. It literally just about not intaking any calories for an extended period of time.

I would start with a 10/14 (10 hours eating, 14 hours fasting) to try it out and slowly decreasing your feeding window. If you believe you have strong willpower or less likely to break start with 8/16.

If you ever do want to try OMAD, don't gorge yourself during that meal, I still eat at a serious deficit and it's great.

>>13820441
>>13820452
Based, you're right. The ketojerk is very real on Reddit, I think it's partially because the user base over there that does think it's mostly keto that's helping them losing weight so quickly, but in reality it's the fact that they're cut their intake from 5000 calories a day to 1500.

OMAD was definitely tough at the start, but for myself personally it was worth sticking with. It's just less of a hassle, and the clarity, not to mention all of the other benefits, I've gained is something to write home about. IF with multiple smaller meals is great if you want to enjoy food multiple times a day.
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>>13820467
Green, black, oolong, honey bush, red, hibiscus, rhubarb and a million other teas all have close to no calories. Drink that instead.
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>>13820309

I used to do a whole bunch of cardio but I stopped around 9 months ago, and I've since been maintaining my weight by eating responsibly.
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>>13819553
not eating is easy. you're a fat fuck and there's people out there starving but instead of striving to be better you just sit around and stuff your face. you'll never be fashionable or confident until you lose all the excess weight.
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>>13819837
>>13819850
>>13819855
you're fucking chubby dude. your collarbones are completely obscured by fat and you have man boobs and a jellybean could get lost in your belly button. you have love handles too
luckily you dont have a fat neck but it is pathetically small for a man
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5'9"
145lbs

I am a mtf tranny, I know weight gain on HRT is how I get feminine fat deposits and shit, but I really want to look like Julie Prim(120lbs 5'9").

Should I only eat like, 500 to 800 cals a day for a week, do a normal week, only eat 500 to 800 cals a day for another week to drop to like 115-120 so I can get fat but be at like 125 to 130 range? I really want to be thin (because thin is pretty) but will I fucked my shit up if I do this? I'm not going to diet 24/7 or binge and purge, just gonna go a little fast to get to skinnier. I've been on HRT 5 months.


I also just ate before this picture lol
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>>13821192
I want to look like this btw
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>>13821192

>>13821199
I meant to post a pic of prim, not that girl, also checked
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>>13821192
i would say just focus on being healthy for a year or more on HRT. After that time is up, see how you feel, and if you want to lose weight then go for it.
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>>13821192
Lmao nigga is a demon unleashed from hell unto himself
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>>13821227
wait, wha?
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>>13821192
posting shit so people apply to my post
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I have these dope ass navy blue linen cropped pants.

They'll go well with my navy blue floral shirt.

My question is, would it be acceptable to wear linen when it's 10C outside?

Pic related, it's the shirt
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21 years old ,6’,115 lbs,
Took the tranny pill, starting hrt soon, is there anything i can do to help achieve a more feminine body (excercise, diets?)
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>>13821292
gain some weight, hope it goes to your hips and glutes
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gonna do a 15 day water fast any tips lol.
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>>13821336
take plenty of salt with your water
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>literally just ate 2500 calories worth of mcdonalds and chocolate in the past 3 hours alone
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Flat is hot
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>>13821350
u can either binge or /nightrun/, the choice is yours
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>>13821388
u mean purge
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how dangerous is fasting with a pretty low bf%?
I know fasting in general is totally safe, but I always see vague discouragement or
>why would you want to fast or lose weight while underweight???
shits not gonna kill me, but i dont want to fuck up my metabolism and ability to function again like i did on calorie restriction.
Anyone have experience with this?
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>>13821460
i'm pretty sure that IF is okay, people with really low bf% just shouldn't do prolonged fastings.
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>>13821460
Are you underweight or do you have low body fat? It also depends on what type of fast you're trying to do.
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>>13821364
Who is she?
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>>13821578
underweight and low bf%. I want to try for 72 (or more) hours, since I've gone over 48 a few times without trouble but broke it because of family or friends
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>>13821621
If you're underweight and very low bodyfat it is going to be dangerous to do a multi day fast yes. Your body is going to break down skeletal protein, which you don't want. Then you also run into danger of stuff like vitamin and mineral deficiency which can lead to stuff like heart attacks. You anorexic motherfuckers need to eat
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>>13819653
>>13820071
Salt isn’t the only electrolyte you need go ask a doctor the best way to fast.
They sell electrolyte powder or premixed drink at the pharmacy.
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>>13821621
You should be wary for sure but if you're properly hydrating and you are getting salt you can do it safely for 72 hours. I'm in no way a nutritionist but you can read more of what I was saying earlier a bit further up in the thread.

The human body can go almost a month without food as long as it's getting water. That time frame can be severely cut down if you're underweight with a low body fat percentage so like I said, be careful.

>why would you want to fast or lose weight while underweight???

People who say this are either uneducated on the topic, overweight themselves and can't think of going without food, or are just stupid and feel the need to open their mouth.

>but i dont want to fuck up my metabolism and ability to function again like i did on calorie restriction

Your metabolism will not be fucked up if you fast. In fact any form of fasting drastically helps your metabolism. Modern humans in 'first world countries' are so used to a constant stream of caloric intake that the average person eating three square meals a day does not have time to properly digest food, and it's akin to an endless cycle of gluttony even if they're in shape.

If you're just trying to do a water fast, for whatever reason, I would say go ahead, just remember the salt and water. If all of the salt is lost from your body your heart will stop, you will collapse, and you will die. However if you are ever interested in intermittent fasting or time restricted eating I think you might like that as well. Again, that could be dangerous if you don't reach your recommended calorie intake and end up in a deficit.
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>>13821634
Untrue, you're dangerously spreading misinformation
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>>13821435
yea sorry have the flu rn
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>>13821292
You can try leangains and do some butt routine like Strong Curves or variations thereof. As long as you do various glutes exercises it is going to make a difference. You still got that T which is basically free roids, so use it.
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>>13821638
t. skelly with eating disorder.

Glycogen, fat deposits and eventually skeletal protein. After that there is nothing to break down any longer except smooth and cardiac muscle. Minerals like sodium, magnesium and potassium are essential for controlling heart function. If you run out, you run out — that's it. You're going to develop arrhythmias.

And seeing how most Americans are already deficient in the latter 2, any person who is already an anorexic skelly attempting a multi day fast is literally putting themselves at risk of death.
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>>13821648
You're acting like going without food for three days instantly makes your body waste away. That is never the case unless a human is literally on the verge of death because they have no body fat and they're already losing muscle.
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>>13821655
Which is the case with anorexic people, which this thread is full of. Up to 20% of people with anorexia die and usually of heart failure
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>>13821659
You're painting with some seriously broad strokes there. Don't get me wrong, there are always risks involved with any type of fast, I've been doing this shit for a very long time, so I know that people will get carried away and damage themselves. I'm nowhere close to anorexic though so maybe I don't have the fine tuned expertise needed to generalize a huge group of people I've never met. Do you think starvation mode is a real thing?
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>>13819583
>>13819603
>>13819893
>>13821082
Yeah im done being fat i lost weight before starving i was just crying like a bitch and complaining im losing my weight again now im not a fat person thats discusting, it ends now
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>>13821666
Of course starvation mode is real, in people who are actually starving. When people are calling it a myth they're talking about fatties who claim starvation mode when they go without food for a few days, not Auschwitz tier skellys who are actually starving.
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>>13821675
Ok based, you're right. From what you had been saying I was afraid that you were going to tell me starvation mode affects anyone who goes without food for more than 24 hours.
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can veggies be added to bone broth while cooking then be strained out after or will that break fast
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>>13821691
Bone broth already breaks the fast.
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>>13821292
wtf is up with your body? you're so underweight but you look wide and definitely not thinspo
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>>13821790
It's a dude with bad posture. That's just how nerds (male) look
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>>13821292
yes, you can keep dreaming
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I ate so much junkfood I feel like I'm going to vomit.
Fuck me, I'll fast 'till Sunday to make up for it. I promise I won't fail.
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>>13820240
There are no positive effects to a water salt fast, you pseudoscientific shit.
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Friendly reminder to not eat carbs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np1j4z4sGAM
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honestly, as cringe as this might sound I think it's just the photo. My collarbones are not 'obscured by fat' at all, I'm bony af and my belly is not soft. I do have moobs but that is just gyno, always had them. They are firm tho.
My original question was more about whether fasting has any benefits for those not necessarily trying to get skinnier. I wanna bulk up desu I just heard fasting can be good for hormone regulation or whatever.
I need to bulk and tone up so gonna do that cheers lads
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Christ, this whole thread is a pseudoscientific shitsock. At least post pics if you're gonna gargle each others shitdicks.
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>>13821984
>My original question was more about whether fasting has any benefits for those not necessarily trying to get skinnier.
Not usually.
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>>13821991

delicious feels
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>>13821995
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>>13819475
you guys are fucking faggots. Plato would fuck you all in the ass and toss you on the street after.
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>>13822008
Shame this is a bible board.
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>>13821997
>>13822004
these are horrible. seek help if this is you/your goals.
my best friend was obsessed with being skinny, it went on for a year or more with him texting me a huge list of what he'd binge on every week and openly making himself throw up in club toilets etc. He got so skinny he had loose stretchy skin on his upper arms, his muscle had started deteriorating. He got better and was probably about 140lb for a while, but he was still at obsessed with self image and would complain about being fat from time to time. Then he hung himself in the woods a few months ago.
Please get help.
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>>13822013
>implying we wouldn't like that
lurk moar newfag
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5'4 female, started at around 140 lbs. I've lost about ten lbs so far in the span of two months. People are telling me they can see a difference but I personally can't really see anything. I want to lose at least another 15lbs and then see if I like my body like that.
Is it normal not to notice results on yourself? Or is 10lbs just too little to see a difference.
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>>13819553
>>13821669
nevermind i just binged again today 3000cal

Oh well gotta be a fatty forever
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>>13822025
more newfaggotry, christ
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>>13822035
I am a newfag to /fa/ but that doesn't matter, what I said holds true. you guys are depressed. make it better.
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>>13822031
Ignore the scale, the mirror is what matters.

>>13822032
ECA works better with baby aspirin in the mix.
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>>13821979
No the person you were responding to but one of the IF shills from this thread, and what they said is only pseudoscientific to the extent that we have not yet established whether or not any sort of liver activation due to consumption of tea or coffee or really anything but water does not disrupt autophagy. But personally I think this is such a small issue that it is not worth caring about, just go and drink that tea. As long as you do IF or do regular fasts you will benefit from the multiple benefits of fasting which have been and are being demonstrated through the last years.
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>>13822036
This is 4chan, gb2reddit faggot
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>>13822049
And because it is 4chan anyone is free to call you out for being an anorexic sicko.
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>>13822046
Yeah, amazing that people lose weight when they don't eat anything. Wow, such science.
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>>13822036
Even if you're only new to fa you shouldve realised that you can post similar statements on any board. It's all the same really, they just choose to obsess about other things
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>>13822052
Now you're getting it, fatass.
4chan is for ewatersports, we're here to piss on each other.
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>>13822055
most other boards (bar the porn ones) have much less self destructive obsessions though. oh well, I said what I said. have fun guys
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>tfw borderline underweight, missing period yet still look kinda chubby
Any tips on recomp? I don't have a gym membership and I'd be willing to but it's a lot of money for me. I also don't want to look muscular, just want a healthy body weight while also looking thin.
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>>13822062
>most other boards (bar the porn ones) have much less self destructive obsessions though
Jesus Christ, if I'd known you were legitimately retarded I would have never responded.
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>>13821984
>My original question was more about whether fasting has any benefits for those not necessarily trying to get skinnier. I wanna bulk up desu I just heard fasting can be good for hormone regulation or whatever.

There are a couple benefits, some of them vary from person to person though. First there is an increased secretion of GH which will help in repairing cells and building muscle, although we are not sure if these spikes level out throughout the day right now in human test subjects. Second there is autophagy, which seems to be a pretty certain effect of IF and strengthens the bodies' immune system, it has been the subject of recent research in medicine esp. with a focus on cell mitochondria action and a few recent Nobel prices went to research teams in this area. The reduce in inflammation and oxidation is intimately related to this and everything that follows from it (i.e. a strengthened immune system, protection against cancers etc. Right now the hottest theory in medicine is that our immune system naturally hunts cancer cells and it only manages to strive once our immune system is overwhelmed and/or disabled, so giving your body the ability to repair cell damage is extremely valuable).

These are the 2 biggest effects besides maintaining a low bodyfat percentage, but there are others, such as for some people an increase in clarity and concentration due to release of noradrenaline during the fasting window (which is also why it is hard for some people to fast in the evening and fall asleep, your body is telling you to stay awake and go search for food) and range of other suspected effects such as in improvement in memory and learning. Then there is of course the control of insuline levels which wards against diabetes and possibly Alzheimer's, a lowering in LDL cholesterol and subsequent strengthening of the cardiovascular system, and a variety of permanent changes in gene expressions which honestly aren't yet understood.

tl;dr do IF
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>>13822067
elaborate, or you're just in denial.
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>>13822053
Weight loss is just one of the benefits of fasting. See my longer post here >>13822068

If you claim this to be pseudoscience I'd invite you to call out specifics and demonstrate either a lack of evidence or their falsehood or at the very least ask for me to concretely substantiate claims. I will of course only do it if you have concrete objections and will not amass a pile of studies to drop like some Reddit tier autist.
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>>13822071
lurk moar newfag

>>13822068
Dude wants to bulk up. How many athletes do IF when they want to gain muscle? Not fucking many. You don't fast to get bigger.
I'm not sure why the fuck someone who wants to bulk up is on thinspo instead of cbt over at fit, tho.
Either way, nutrition science is borderline momscience tier. Eat a diverse, unprocessed diet, damn near everything else is a fad, including IF for most purposes.
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>>13822086
>Dude wants to bulk up. How many athletes do IF when they want to gain muscle? Not fucking many. You don't fast to get bigger.
Shows how little you know. IF is huge in the bodybuilding community and has been for years now, precisely because of the release in GH. Fasting does not attack skeletal muscle, it first uses up your glycogen stores and then draws energy from body fat, only when that is used up does it break down muscle in order to power the body — something which won't happen as long as you aren't eating at a consistent caloric deficit. Look up leangains, it is how IF got popular in the first place online.

>I'm not sure why the fuck someone who wants to bulk up is on thinspo instead of cbt over at fit, tho.

Because a fitness physique involves your bodyfat being very low usually. Unless you're going for the powerlifter "I can pull trucks" vibe.

>Either way, nutrition science is borderline momscience tier. Eat a diverse, unprocessed diet, damn near everything else is a fad, including IF for most purposes.

Proofs.
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>>13821595
*he
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>>13822092
Yeah, IF is for cutting purposes dumbass. That guy wants to GAIN MASS. You don't IF for bulking. GOMAD, etc.

>Proofs.
Nutrition "science" flipflops on fucking everything every generation, if it can even get a consensus on something to begin with. The only thing that's held steady for the past century is the importance of a diverse, minimally processed diet and not being a fatfuck or a thinspo.
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>>13822031
I’m also 5”4 and 140 lbs

lowest was 121 back when i was doing heavy amounts of coke in the summer. i think it’s normal especially if you’re constantly looking at your body you’re so used to the image. good luck anon!
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>>13820304
Aye you’re that fag who’s in that trap server, you love you show off in it
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>>13822105
>Yeah, IF is for cutting purposes dumbass. That guy wants to GAIN MASS. You don't IF for bulking. GOMAD, etc.
God no, stop embarrassing yourself. GOMAD is an actual meme which only anymore pops up on /fit/ to trick newfags into doing SS+GOMAD. Check out leangains as I told you before, IF is utilized here specifically to build muscle while maintaining low body fat. You can do IF to cut too of course but ultimately the only difference between doing IF while bulking and doing IF while cutting is whether or not you operate on a caloric deficit.

>Nutrition "science" flipflops on fucking everything every generation, if it can even get a consensus on something to begin with. The only thing that's held steady for the past century is the importance of a diverse, minimally processed diet and not being a fatfuck or a thinspo.
No it doesn't. The core of nutrition science has been established for decades and hasn't changed. The flip flopping you perceive is due to quacks and fad diets who shill their products, like the recent surge in keto idiocy. The advantages of fasting have been known for a very long time too (people have fasted since the advent of humanity and civilization), it is only now that we are understanding the cellular processes however and looking into what is actually happening on an overall systematic level.
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>>13822043
nobody takes aspirin anymore its useless and the amount you would have to take to actually make a difference will burn your insides

t. EC fag thats been dosing for like 5 months
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>>13822031
>>13822052
>>13822109
so many self-satisfed fatties in these threads lately...
BMI 19 and below is thin.
BMI 20 - 22 is average
BMI 23 - 25 is CHUBBY
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>>13822117
Eh, I've noticed a difference, but it could be placebo pretty easy.

>>13822115
The benefits of IF while bulking are marginal at best, especially compared to the benefits of steroids while bulking which is what all those pro athletes do anyway.
GOMAD isn't a meme, it's an easy way for hungry skellingtons to get calories for mass. GOMAD is shorthand for "eat more you skinny fuck".

>No it doesn't. The core of nutrition science has been established for decades and hasn't changed. The flip flopping you perceive is due to quacks and fad diets who shill their products

Yeah, like carbs and eggs and red meat and cooking method and probiotics and the entire stupid fucking organic movement.
The only solid diet out there for the average person is diverse, minimally processed. Everything else, fasting included, is marginal at best. If it works for you, great, but stop shilling at the altar of your sacred intermittently fasted cow.
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>>13821997
this is like... me but better ;-; why can't I look like this
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>>13822146
Fuck you're retarded I wish I could crush your diseased body which is 100% confirmed entirely void of any muscles. How the fuck are you contrasting steroids, IF and bulking in the very same sentence, you have obviously ZERO fucking idea what you're talking about. Steroids are not a dietary pattern and you can do IF and steroids at the SAME time, they are not conflicting things. You can do IF while blasting roids and be on a bulk simultaneously. Amazing, isn't it?

>GOMAD isn't a meme, it's an easy way for hungry skellingtons to get calories for mass. GOMAD is shorthand for "eat more you skinny fuck".
Of course it works and so does eating fast food every day. You would only do it if the only thing you care about is getting fat to move more weight around, which only a powerlifter would do and which is why Rippetoe recommended it and /fit/ memes it. People who want to become powerlifters usually don't frequent /fit/ with 101 routine and diet questions, hence /fit/ memeing this shit at people like you who can't be bothered to do the absolute minimum of research. What you do when you need to bulk up is called a clean bulk and does not involve a gallon of milk a day, unless you are a dairy farmer who is 6'10".

>Yeah, like carbs and eggs and red meat and cooking method and probiotics and the entire stupid fucking organic movement.
What the fuck is that even supposed to mean? Are you just throwing words at me now in an attempt to look knowledgeable on literally any of this? I'm not surprised that I'd encounter someone like you in a thread about anorexia though. By the way, I already do whole food plant based with fish once a week and a vast variety of plant sources. My diet is top tier. IF is extremely beneficial regardless of that however and I will continue to recommend it because it is worth it.
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>>13822146
Oh and btw still waiting for any concrete objections about the multiple benefits I described in >>13822068

It really shouldn't be that hard for you to admit you're wrong on an anonymous online forum designed around discussing weeb shit.
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pls just post girls
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So i just moved to a new city and want to slim down because i have some love handles / pudginess. Recently i started trying to only eat once or twice a day instead of conforming to a 3 meal a day standard. Turns out if i'm not that active (basically school and work is all i do right now) i'm not actually as hungry as i think i am. Also i used to eat an entire chipotle bowl but i have started eating only half and saving the other half for dinner / next lunch. Ive been carrying around a hydroflask for water too. Am i doing alright to start? Any more tips? Thinking about trying gym at my school but i know it will boost my appetite and i dont really have a good place to cook so i eat a lot of fast food and it wont help.
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>>13822308
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>>13820304
dont eat carb
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>>13822165
Your reading comprehension and understanding of the history of nutritional science is dogshit.
The scientific consensus has flip-flopped on the importance of >carbs and eggs and red meat and cooking method and probiotics and the entire stupid fucking organic movement
in a huge fucking way. Carbs, eggs, and meat especially have been zigzagged in Doctor's offices and official govt endorsements over the past few decades and have had a huge impacts on tens of millions of lives.

As for the rest of your crap, some individuals may benefit substantially from IF, but from the perspective of large groups of people (aka statistics) IF has marginal at best benefits that are completely dwarfed by CICO.
EVERYTHING is dwarfed by CICO.

>>13822172
>>>>13822068
>>>>>>words words words
You should have stopped at >>benefits vary from person to person
No one cares about technobabble, get to the fucking point. I have a BS in biotech and I still could give less of a shit about word vomit.
You're one of those guys that never learned that less is more because you've been trained your whole life by our dumbfuck educational system to pad your answers with fluff and BS to get a better grade.

>>13822308
No.

>>13822158
Are you this string bean?

>>13822369
jesus christ wtf
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>>13822532
No the medical community never flip flopped on carbs, eggs and red meat. What flip flopped were the official recommendations on this, because the US public is basically so degenerate that doctors are afraid to give the only proper health recommendation, which is that red meat, eggs etc. are healthy in no amount, dairy is at best neutral in small amounts and that everyone ought to eat a whole food plant based diet. This has NOTHING to do with the actual insight into the nutritional field we have had since the early 20th century as it is sheer politics.

>As for the rest of your crap, some individuals may benefit substantially from IF, but from the perspective of large groups of people (aka statistics) IF has marginal at best benefits that are completely dwarfed by CICO.
>EVERYTHING is dwarfed by CICO.

Show me those statistics :)
You will find IF has been shown to be more effective than preaching mere CICO because if used for caloric restriction it is the most successful intervention to date for people to stick with.

>No one cares about technobabble, get to the fucking point. I have a BS in biotech and I still could give less of a shit about word vomit.
Lmao behaving awfully dumb for that. I wasn't using technobabble but basic terms for nutritional science, if you perceive this to be obfuscating you are retarded and (as you have demonstrated already) aren't familiar with the necessary basics of the field. This is like walking up to someone talking about physics and telling them to stop the "technobabble" when they talk about gravitational pull.
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i dont wanna stop exercising ever
i dont want my diet to be done ever
when i reach my gw im just gonna eat more so i can keep exercising
dw im not harming myself. no injuries, approaching a bmi of 18
exercising is fucking great
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>>13822828
by gw i sorta meant fat percentage, assuming i maintain the muscle i have now. my goal is a fat percentage of 18. im a grill btw.
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>>13822840
Realistic expectations desu. Post pics
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>>13822854
i dont have anything particular nice to show though. would much rather post when i got some decent after pics. now it's all mediocre "during" pics. i expect to have something i wanna show off in three weeks time
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>>13822860
let us decide on that
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Finally was able to talk to my best friend about this fucking eating disorder and what i've been going through. Going to water fast as long as I can now, if I ever feel the urge to break it I'm going to talk with him so he can motivate me.
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>>13822369
This image makes me want to cry. Look at the cute tea cup, the comfy setting, the put together clothes in the back, the iPhone. This is somebody that has (had) a well off life. I bet people just wish they were her, I bet she spends an hour getting ready in the morning. Yet she takes pictures of herself, full of pride, of her decaying body. So normal, yet so disgustingly self possessed. She's trying so hard to prove herself in every way, yet she's turning herself into this horrible cardboard monster, a manifestation of the modern world. When you get to this level, it's as bad as obesity, you're just glutinous for something else that I can't describe. What a waste of dedication.
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>>13822887
And she wants to lose even more weight.
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>>13819553
>>current stats: sex, age, height, weight
Female, 20, 5"0, 280-285 lbs (I dropped my scale and broke it so i don't know exactly how much I weight as of now but last time I weighted myself I was 283.)

>>tdee and your deficit
Don't know

>>highest and lowest weight
Highest was 304.7 before being inspired by /fit/ to lose weight. I went on OMAD for 4 months and lost 27 pounds. Lowest was 272.4 before I broke my diet.

>>goal weight
110-128 lbs

>>preferred method of losing weight
OMAD and waterfasting

>>aesthetic you are going for
Not going for one, just trying to not be overweight for once in my life.


(Scared to post pics of myself because I don't want people to point me out and out me to my family members. I've told them I was fasting whether they liked it or not, but if they see my pic, they would try to take me to a hospital or something.)
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5'11, 175
how do i make my thighs skinnier and lose belly fat? my thighs are humongous compared to my waist size. my pant size is around 31/32 but my thighs need around a 12+ in measurement at the crotch outwards to even fit and not be skin tight. im pretty muscular due to working out often but unless i flex you can't see my abs really.
im scared of IF because when i tried eating little i would not eat all day and when night came i would binge and eat multiple bowls of cereal and just a bunch of food, so i feel like if i don't plan out meals throughout the day i can easily develop an ED. also im an athlete (swimming) so i can't not eat due to the high calorie burn.
i feel like im at a healthy weight and if i lost any more than maybe 10 lbs i would feel unhealthy. what are my options here?
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>>13823344
Why would they hospitalize you though? Honestly your goal is safe and your a bit overweight. Do you have a restrictive eating disorder they know about?
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>>13822105
That file name gave me aids.
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>>13823438
all you can do is lose weight friend
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>>13819553
Just go on keto, get some multivitamins, and don't eat for a while.

It's pretty simple. The first rule of this world is realizing insulin spikes and easy glucose are the opiate of the disenfranchised American.
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>>13823438
You have to combine IF with a ketogenic diet.

Otherwise, you don't get the HGH spikes at all. In fact you may just be forcing yourself into catabolism in an effort to spike HGH, depending on what you choose to eat in your window.
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whats the most weight i can lose in a month realistically? i weigh around 230 and im 5 10,
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>>13823745
keto super low cal you can probably drop 10-15 pounds in water weight on top of another 10 pounds in fat
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How much do cigarettes assist weight loss? Do they just suppress your appetite, or is there more to it?
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>went shopping yesterday
>a chubby sales assistant keeps eating french fries while "helping" me to get a suiting gown
>I ask her if I can try one of them on
>"It's probably too big for you"
>"it's XS"
>"it still can be too big, well, it's a store for adults, not for girls and adult women have curves, don't worry, you'll gain some weight soon"
>it turns out that the dress fits me well on my waist
>"oh, you have to eat more! and if you wear that dress, you'll have to stuff your bra"
>"but I'm on diet"
>"what diet?? you're sinning girl, you're crazy!"
>she keeps eating fries

Why are they like this?
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>>13824006
i dont fucking know and it fucking sucks. That sorta unsolicited advice is no better than telling fat people to lose weight. Regardless of what you choose, skinny or fat, it's a personal fucking decision. People should mind their own business. Fatties, too
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>>13824102
Fat people should not only be told to lose weight every day but they should be bullied and beaten so that they feel enough pressure to fix their shit.
Telling healthy people to gain weight is not the same thing; it's a crab bucket strategy to destroy a competitor.
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>>13824117
okay so they should fix their shit. but you don't know what their shit is, and thus you don't know how to fix their shit. bullying and beating might not be the solution. sorry man but im very not with you on this one. nvm that being obese is a problem in and of itself and there is such a thing as a healthy and unhealthy weight and lifestyle; we just dont bully, it doesnt solve things.
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>>13822644
m80, I just wanted you to get to the fucking point. Everyone reading your post here just wanted you to get to the point, they don't care about the biowhatsits behind the point.

>>red meat, eggs etc. are healthy in no amount,
Wrong.

>>You will find IF has been shown to be more effective than preaching mere CICO
Also wrong. Everyone works differently, psychology, biology, blahology. IF is crap for a lot of people. There is no best way to reducing your body fat. CICO is King because it's the compass your path has to follow.

>>13823531
But, anon, you've already got AIDS.

>>13823771
EC stacks work better.
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>>13824128
Go back to tumblr, faggot
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>>13823728
proofs?
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>>13824117
Hell no and I'm the girl who wrote this: >>13824006
Is not telling others what to do with their bodies because of your hatred that hard? No matter if they're skelly or fatty
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>>13824117
this so much this
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>>13824128
fat shaming works wonders
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>>13823447
>a bit overweight
shes fucking obese, dont sugar coat it
>>13823344
start counting calories you fat shit
you'll never make it if you only do OMAD and fasting

you could have lost 32 pounds in 4 months using myfitnesspal (2 pounds per week)
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>>>/gym/
>>>/fit/
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>>13824495
post body
if youre not 8% bf kys
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>>13821997
How do I look soft and slender like this instead of like:
>>13822004
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>>13824365
>>13824469
If everyone else is more fat that makes me look even better so leave them alone :^)
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>>13821192
step one: not those pants
step two: bulk your hips to reduce shoulder hip ratio
step three: embrace thicc it will help you pass
step four : try high wasted or belted aroudn the waist styles they emphasize what fragments of a figure u have
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>>13824006
They think that people have a nice body by miracle.
Many times i heard the same ''why are you on a diet when you are already thin?'' its like motherfucker i am thin exactly because i am on a diet.
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>>13824584
Camera tricks, photoshop tricks, genetics, and a little more body fat in the right places.
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I don't have calorie information for my work dinner on Saturday but its a three course meal with drinks at a local bar afterwards.
Will it be ok to deviate just this once?
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>>13825231
no, you will immediately gain fifty pounds and be fat and miserable forever
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>>13825244
Based and redpilled
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>>13819553
what made it easier for me was just making it harder to get stuff to eat

e.g. never buy more than a single serving at the store, dont order delivery shit (have someone change the passwords to thsoe accounts or whatever), and if ur hungry make a rule like "whenever im hungrty i'll drink 3 glasses of water and wait 30 minutes"
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>>13824481
nah, /fast/ is the way to go
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so bloated. ive been eating like 3,000 calories a day and I feel like I've already gained sm. ive just been so hungry. I need to lose weight and get leaner
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>>13825244
this but unironically, every time i allow myself a cheat day or give in and refeed it takes me a day to mentally get over the easy satisfaction and get back to strict restriction
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>>13819837
>pretty skinny

Are you on crack? Youre not even remotely skinny
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>>13825978
>Youre not even remotely skinny
Then why would be be on crack?
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>>13825973
Try to cut the carbs during refeeds.
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>>13826019
carbs are literally the only thing i like, i would trade a dozen steaks or chicken breasts for a single croissant jesus christ just inject wheat and flour into my bloodstream already
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>>13819837
>skinny
>not even one rib showing
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metabolism masterrace checking in
>Steak for breakfast
>megamac for lunch
>about to eat more burger

185cm 63kg
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>>13826119
most find that hot. don't worry about it.
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>>13819837
more like skinnyfat. go to the gym.
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>>13820309
did you seriously just ask a dyel twin what his routine is
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>>13822532
imagine taking diet advice from someone who looks like this LMAO. deadass a stretched out 12 year old girl
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>>13826209
>le metabolism meme

Eat 4000 calories 7 days a week. Anyone who doesn't have cancer will gain. People like you just seriously underestimate how much you are eating or you eat big for 1 day a week.

Even now you say you are about to eat again acting like 2 meals was some great feat of overeating when that's nothing. Eat 6 meals at 700 calories a time daily and then come back.
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>>13826240
I have a friend that literally every fucking day, he eats junk all the time, and like a fatass, he probably eats like 3500 to 4500 calories every single day, and he is 180cm 53kg.
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anyone know how to like keep thinspo on my mind
if i really think about it i dont eat but sometimes i forget "the goal" and eat like shit
>>13826240
or aids
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I've gained back like 6 pounds in the last month or so. I think Im at a point where I'm healthy enough to start restricting or fasting again, but more intelligently this time. Id love to break 110 lbs, and if i can get there and still feel ok, double digits would be pretty cool
>5'11, 117-118lbs
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>>13827247
I seriously doubt that you actually forget about it. You just don’t care enough in the moment right?
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>>13826582
It’s more likely that you’re wrong, or that he’s sick. Here are some possibilities
1. Do you live with him? Does he do this every day? If he just does it every second day even you’d be wrong you know.
2. You can have a bad uptake of nutrients from your gut
3. Parasites, cancer, or Untreated diabetes
4 did you track all his meals and activities for a month? Are you so magical that you can see exactly how many calories his food had?
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>>13826209
Steaks aren’t high cal you retard.
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>>13826224
But I want to be cute, not hot
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>>13827354
ur prob right tbhon
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>>13821997
Can you not? This is me and I hate this picture.

>>13822025
I was 19 BMI and of a healthy weight at the time of that picture (2015), so many people told me to I was too skinny, but every time I saw my GP, she said "your weight is fine, you're just thin build, not underweight", long story short, I could never put on weight and it turned out to be an underlying endocrine disease that was causing me to not be able to put on more weight, once I resolved it, I put on weight to 21 BMI within a year.

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>>13824584
I had a endocrine problem which lead to suppressed testosterone, that's how.
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>>13824584
take a low dose t blocker (cypro/spiro)
shave
be thin and lean
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>>13827524
Sure, and develop osteoporosis a few years down the line unless you take some kind of oestrogen.
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>>13827531
maybe take a serm
if you take low dose and keep some t you will be fine
taking estrogen is for trannies for the most part
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>>13827542
I'm pretty sure cypro + SERM will lead to further suppression of testosterone causing more complications. Cypro on its own only suppresses ~75% of testosterone production, but when combined with any kind of oestrogen it goes to ~95% suppression. Just take bica, or better yet, don't mess with hormones as it's dangerous long term unless you're trans.
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>>13822126
Shhh, no one cares.
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So where do yall shop? 6' underweight tranny, I need places that have tall sizes ;-;
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>>13827918
At the normal people shop
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>>13827920
as if anyone normal posts in this thread .-.
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>>13827932
>Anyone unlike a freak like you sinner
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>absentmindedly take chewable vitamin c tablet in the middle of my fast
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>>13819475
FIRST TIME BROWSING /FA/ WTF ARE THOSE BUILDS. WHY ARE YOU FAGS QUOTING PLATO, YOU ARE NOT PHYSICALLY EFFICIENT, A CAT COULD BREAK YOU IN HALF. HOW IS THERE NO ONE WEIGHTING MORE THAN 160 HERE.
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What's up everyoneeee I'm bulemic as fuckkkk
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I M A G I N E
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>>13828186
this is thinspo faggot >>>/fit/
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>>13827505
pics or gtfo, cumdump


>>13828186
laffed more than i should have
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>>13828236
what does your diet consist of so i can get like you
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>>current stats: sex, age, height, weight: male, 19, 1.73m, 52-57kg?
>>tdee and your deficit: not sure about the tdee. I always put sedentary in the calculators so I'm always on a little more deficit. I eat 1000kcal daily. I never count exercise or my long walks in that daily goal.
>>highest and lowest weight: 78kg highest, lowest 52-57kg rn.
>>gw: 48kg
>>preferred methods: breakfast + supper? (in my country, it's something like a breakfast at night), water/coffee/mate through the day, huge walks through the week, cardio and stuff.

Lately I've been trying workouts from apps like 8fit, and they have a lot of leg exercises, but I'm concerned if they could mess up my progress a little bit, since all I want to do is lose muscle mass from my legs, especially from my fucking fat thighs. I know spot reduction is a myth, and I'm aware you can't build muscle if you're on a deficit, but, does exercising it helps you keep it?

(I'll shave my body hair soon. dw. I'm very aware of it.)
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>>13827918
Look into getting stuff tailored online.
It’s better to have few items that fit well than tons of ones that don’t
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>>13820304
>is there any way to make my legs skinnier than they currently are?
They're pretty skinny already, so apart from weight loss you're stuck with muscle loss or hoping that there's some water retention you can deal with.
You can get compression tights on ebay (since you're a "Giant Faggot" anyway), they'll probably make them a few cm thinner, though that will be because you avoid water retention, maybe it can cause some muscle and fat loss in the long run, the way corsets do, but don't expect miracles here.
Otherwise just... don't use your legs. Stop taking the stairs, never walk, never run.
If you're sensible enough to realise that no exercise at all is bad for you then you can go for swimming. It's not leg-heavy unless you make it and your legs will look comparatively skinnier as well because it builds your upper body.
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>>13821192
>I'm not going to diet 24/7
>Suggests going on a super strict diet for literally 7 days and then having a whole cheat week before the next 7 days.
No you should not heavily restrict for a week and then eat normally. That's the stupidest shit I've ever heard. Also why would binge/fast on purpose? Nobody does that because they want to.


Here's what you do. You have 15-20 lbs to lose. That's actually quite a bit.
1. Eat your fucking vegetables, fruit and meat. Going keto is an option. Intermittent fasting is also an option. If not then do a deficit of cal 500 cal/day.
2. Cut out all the bread and pasta
3. Start working out your hips/ass area to get muscle there, maybe it will help balance off your shoulders. DONT do anything with your arms though, keep them skinny.
4. Get a fucking bra. This is a blue board. Why are you dressing like a man if you're on HRT anyway.
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>>13820289
Reading.
All I do is reading.
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I gotta stay hi-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i
til I
d-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i
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>>13822887
M‘lady

No but really, I can relate.
In recovery rn.
Sometimes I miss being BMI 16 and striving for much lower because dealing with myself in another way was just not good enough.
On the other hand it became unimaginable for me to trade in the fuller life I have right now for obsession again to numb myself.
However I am about to leave therapy and go back to the shitty circumstances I got sick in. So honestly I am cool. Relapse is gonna be okay.
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>>13820240
You are full of shit and should stop spreading your false informations
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This is all I feel comfortable posting, but am I getting there?
18 f, 5'1" 104 lbs but gw is below 100
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>>13828941
thinspo only kinda works if you're a girl btw
wanting to be a skelly is not /fa/ btw
even the skinniest male models still have muscle definition btw
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>>13829024
post cat / small dog
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>>13829041
Lol sorry for the fur! I don't even notice it anymore which is probably bad, will be more effay with a lint roller
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>>13829033
Idk why you would quote my pic to say that. I'm not skeleton, I'm skinny fat at best.
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>>13828271
eat less, move more, snort caffeine and ephedrine

>>13829033
Depends on if they're trying for the soft aesthetic or the cool aesthetic
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>>13829033
How to go from skelly to that?
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>>13829299
Literally just eat whatever you want but hit the gym regularly.
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>tfw my hands and wrists literally look like i'm anorexic but I still have a lot of fat on my thighs and belly
I hate my genetics.
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Hey thinspo, I'm 5'11" 215lbs black transgender with large breasts, and quite full hips and ass due to early access to hormones at 15 (thanks Dad)

I wanna be thinner but worry I'll have twinkhon body. I also have a womanly shape given my rather atheltic frame (like my mother) but like idk I wanna look more refined and less "GURL YOU ARE THICC AS FUCK!!!"

I lack the tiny frame to make skinny work, any suggestions?
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>>13829773
if you loose then gain the fat should go to fem places when u regain so just loose some, see how it works.
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>>13829773
what the fuck just post pics and don't give us a description of your body. This is an imageboard not a textboard
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>>13829804
Okay, I'm stressing because I know I have no chance of being slim and cute.

Looking at other black women who are young professionals in my city dating men I find attractive they are so slim and small. It's upsetting because apparently some bartenders and friends of friends have wanted to talk to me but mostly for sex not dates (this is before I clock myself to them) :-/

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>>13829814
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>>13829822
u remind me of manic satanic lol
just loose weight and if u look like shit gain it back
dont care about what others in ur city look like
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>>13829842
I'm 26, have been single for almost a decade and like for someone who has their shit together and did modeling when I was a male, younger and thinner it sucks to have people call you beautiful but like not want to date you.
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>>13827859
then what's the point of these threads? to obsess about being skinny without actually being skinny? sad
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Essentially had a binge today.
5 cookies and a regular sized bowl of captians booty. A cheesy snack.

Oh well, I don't really feel too bad about it desu. I feel lighter actually, perhaps my diet needs to lighten up? I'm no carb, no sugar and low sodium.
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What BMI do I have to be to get legs like this?
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>>13829886

cause good looks doesn't grant you shit like you think it does. A look gets you looks.
if you can't meet people and ask them out thats your own problem.

>but like not want to date you

yah magically people are totally gonna want to go out of their way to do all the heavy lifting.
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>>13830566
Be Valter.
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>>13830573
Happens to my friends who get complimented as much as me.
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>>13830591
again. you can't expect someone to do a bunch of heavy lifting cause some people compliment you on your looks.

grow up. get out there if you want something and go after it.

its like holding your breath until you get something you want.
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>>13830566
honestly it depends on frame size/muscle to fat ratio etc etc

but most models like this are probably somewhere around 14-15 bmi, considering the thigh gap
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>>13830566
genetics, or a low bmi of around 16
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>>13830601
I throw late night raves and day time parties in my free time a couple times a month. Folks know I don't have casual sex, am interested in dating and easy to come up to so long as it's with respect .

Idk I'm thinking if I work on losing weight people will be more willing to bite the bullet. I don't come up to guys because I hate that whole "you're hot but...." Convo.
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>tfw thought the clearer mind during fasts was a meme but it's actually real
thanks everyone
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>>13831431
tis clear just until the only thing in there is food
but dw, that passes too. comes and goes.
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reminder than everyone is prettier skinnier
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can I look good being skinny if I'm a 5'7 male?
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>>13831431
Turns out that when your body isn't busy 24/7 digesting an array of McBurgers it can direct some blood flow towards the brain
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>>13831461
Post pics.
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>>13831461
I'm 5'7"/5'8", it's possible
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>>13831610
Eating disorders are scary
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>>13831615
at least I eat sufficiently and function properly in society. id rather stay the same weight and eat 2,000-3,000 calories a day, than give in and only eat 500 and not be able to survive 40h work weeks. the loss isn't worth it. this shall do for now.
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Just started fasting and how do I deal with hunger pains? Liquids?
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>>13831680
Yes, tea and coffee. It will take around 2 weeks for your body to adjust IIRC. Also it helps to gradually increase fasting time, so start out with a fasting window of 12 to 16 hours and work your way up.
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>>13831708
Thanks.
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>>13831680
Doing keto also helps because if you eat carbs at your refeeds your body will be constantly craving sugar.
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what do from here? i wanna be a twink
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>>13831830
do what anon above does
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>>13831776
That's non sense fuck there are a lot of retards in this thread. Never trust a keto sperg.

Hunger response is a result of spiking and crashing blood sugar, which only occurs when your body quickly processes a big load of simple sugars. This happens in the SAD because the food you eat is full of the shit. If you eat any food which comes with fiber or complex sugars your blood sugar will not spike and subsequently not crash either, meaning carbs are perfectly fine and healthy as long as you stick with unprocessed foods. Just eat potatoes, brown rice and whole wheat pasta instead of white rice and pasta. Add veggies and fruit etc. you get the idea.
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>>13831840
I guess that makes sense, my bad then.
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>>13819837
Ignore the dysmorphic skellies itt, you're normal. You could lose 5-10lbs. Don't go crazy though, especially if you're still growing.
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Stressed from work and I keep eating poorly.
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>>13831830
lose more weight
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>>13826059
>being skinny means being a literal fucking skeleton
you people are broken. you have to go back
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>>13832944
fat fuck
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>>13831830
You already are.
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How do you guys lose the last bit of belly fat that wont go away ? I'm literally at the doorstep of my goal but have been stagnating for at least two months.
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>>13824690
Thanks babe but I like these pants, they look good with a black t shirt

>>13828638
Okay, thank's for advice. I think I'm going to idk, just eat normally for a year and work my hips and ass. I appreciate the response and no bra because I'm a man? I dress like a man because I don't pass at all lol
>>13821224
Thanks Babe
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>>13831945
He's not normal, he is skinnyfat and has slight gyno. You fucking Americans are so degenerate you don't know what skinny is anymore. No doubt there are anorexic fucks in here but you fatties are just as deluded
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>>13833475
Use Ephedrine/Caffeine stack cycles to kill your hunger.
If you aren't interested in long term ECing, then at least for a month to lose your eating habit, shrink your stomach and make eating less later easy.
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>>13833475
a couple months ago i thought she was a disgusting skeleton monster
now i want to be a cute skeleton monster like her
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Why the fuck couldn't I be starve-self depressed instead of eat-to-feel-whole depressed
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This thread is creepy, so many people in here look like they have eating disorders.
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>>13833814
Okay, thanks. My only issue is I'm still pretty early in HRT and I want to have breasts and fat in feminine areas
>>13834191
Yeah, the more I browse thinspo the cuter she gets
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>>13830602
no they are not. thats really fucking low for men.
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new >>13834788
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>>13834336
people often start off as 'eat to feel better depressed' and then over time if they don'tget better they stop enjoying even food.
You dont want to go there anyway, it's not like you're just not hungry. you get all the downsides with being hungry, and you want to eat but everything tastes stale or like cardboard and eating isnt worth the effort it takes to chew because youre too tired
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