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What broscience from normies regarding lifting that you see a lot?
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>>42492810
"You should start doing higher reps when you cut"

Most retarded thing Ive heard so far.
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>>42492810
roids are bad
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>>42492822
This isn't bad advice. You must be repping below 1/2/3/4.
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"Why are you drinking those sipps, they're bad for you. "
- It's just caffeine
"Why do you need caffeine? People die from that"
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>>42492836
I'm pretty sure I can outlift you fag.

B-275 S-435 D-475

Higher reps will cause you to lose muscle (while on a cut)
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>>42492810


"neck doesnt matter! neck training is unncessary and can kill you. " - Pencil and Giraffe Neck asian friend who just started liting
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Not exactly broscience but a lot of the dyels and normies at my gym seem to be under the impression that you need preworkout and protein powder to get gains.
Like yeah that green juice you keep drinking is gonna make your lazy workout ten times more effective, good job guys.
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>>42492810
Veganism
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>the squeeze
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>>42492836
>>42492861< this guy is correct. If you are on a cut its best to try to stay as strong as possible, desu you can even gain strength on a cut if you are very serious with your nutrition and workouts. In the event that you don't you can lose muscle mass in the cutting process and also lower your metabolic rate slightly which will make your cut harder.
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>>42492810

"You can lose fat in specific places by wrapping a sweat band around problem areas"
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>>42493164
this. i have gained strength on a cut even after lifting for 2+ years, shit's not hard if you're not retarded
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>>42492810
>doing exercise X will give six pack
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>>42492861
unfortunately, we lift the same amount

>5.) Training:

When I say “moderate volume” training, I mean around 14 sets per bodypart per week, usually around 8 reps per set. This style of training is great for both conserving muscle early in a diet and for leaving some breathing room for later training volume increases to occur. In the later part of my diet, I was able to switch to higher volume training (around 18 sets per bodypart per week, reps between 10-15 on average) and not lose any muscle because I was still quite sensitive to the hypertrophic effects of such training (having done moderate volume for so long). Like with most things in a fat loss phase, progression needs to occur for best results to continue, and training volume is no different.

Just keep in mind that your MRV (Maximum Recoverable Volume) will be lower on a fat loss phase than on a mass phase, so don’t go ham and push it too far. A good rule of thumb is to lower your cutting progressions to about 4-6 fewer sets per week than massing. So if you can handle 22 sets per week on average per bodypart when massing, maybe an average of 16 sets would be a good cutting baseline.

https://renaissanceperiodization.com/lessons-recent-fat-loss-experience/ from god dr. Israetel himself, where are your sources?
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>>42492810
>I'm scared of overtraining

NIGGA YOU'RE NOT EVEN TRAINING 1/5 OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO OVERTRAIN AND IT'S ALWAYS NORMIES WHO TALK ABOUT THIS SHIT, LITTERALY CALM DOWN WHEN YOU FEEL YOUR BODY IS TELLING YOU NO, AND YOU'RE SAFE

>Caps Lock is cruise control for cool fuck you
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>>42493206
omfg this
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>can't eat more than 30g of protein in one sitting otherwise your body wastes it

Not quite lifting, but closely related

>>42493269
>tfw

Tbh I hate it when I pick up a dumbbell and turn into Rich Piana
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>>42493243
Everytime i hear normies talk about abs I feel like shooting up a school
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The WORST by far is not lifting because:
>I don't wanna get to big
Said by females, obviously, I hope there aren't guys out there thinking like this.
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>>42493269
I get dizzy a lot after Squats/Deadlifts I almost faint. How to fix?
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>>42492861
>bench that super low

pretty sure your not aesthetic with those numbers

you must look chloe grace moretz or jason blah IRL
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>>42492876
Neck training really isn't that important. It's for dudes in contact and combat sports to prevent injury
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>>42493409

Coworker of mine said he wants to start lifting to build his chest and arms. His running apparently already does enough for his legs(he's a shit runner) and he "already has a back" so he doesn't need to work that at all. He doesn't want to get buff.

Note: He hasn't worked out at all.
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>>42493431
Put the belt around your core, not neck.
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>>42493382
>sort of fat guy asking how to get a sixpack
>I tell him about bodyfat percentage, calories, exercise etc.
>people look at me funny like I'm talking shit
>someone else says "just look sixpack abs exercises on youtube bro"
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>>42493431
Breathe more between reps.
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>lifting with hurt your health, you will have serious issues with your knees and back by your 40s
>the guy is 28 and was nearly shitting himself while carrying total ~15 kilos of groceries bags
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> drinking protein shakes without lifting will make you fat

>only drinking shakes on days they work out

>I don't drink milk with my protein powder because it slows absorption

t. My mate who has been lifting nearly ten years and can only quarter squat 130kg for 1 rep and is small on a brosplit
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>>42493448
this fucking shit

literally every single fat fuck at my gym does some sort of abs workout besides cardio but none of them lift actual weights
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>>42492861
>higher reps will cause you to lose muscle

LMAO.
"Dude, your body will start to eat your muscle away!".

Higher reps only improve your muscular endurance, that's it. It won't make you magically lose muscles by using them.
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>>42492810
>"Nah bro,i don't drink any of this protein shake bullshit,it's bad for you,i know a guy who used to drink it everyday and now his muscles are shaped weird,his abs became all asymmetrical and everything"

Not even kidding
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>i cant imagine wasting so much time on gym like just get a real hobby
t. fat shit NEET who vegetates for hours every day and has zero obligations until september next year
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>>42492810
I don't know if it's common but a few people I work with tell me
>Eat potatoes, it makes the protein stick to your muscles
I can't even begin to figure it out either. I mean, potatoes are cool but what?
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>crossfit will kill you
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>>42492810
wait
that is the guy from that tech youtube channel
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>I don't want to get too big

GODDAMMNIT YOU SCRAWNY ASS FRESHMAN YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO 'ACCIDENTALLY GET TOO BIG' NOW NEVER SAY ANY OF THAT NONSENSE AROUND HERE AGAIN
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>you can get a good physique without steroids
lmao
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>>42493409
I had a mate who wanted to get muscle reduction surgery on his legs. Because he gained too much while clubbing. And didn't look anorexic enough anymore.
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>press ups and crunches are a waste of time that just let you do more of them

what is more of a waste of time is you manlets who do nothing because you won't even start with simple exercise like that
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Chubby women jogging and doing cardio as if they will get thin, the worst bro science there is.
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>>42493782

This. One old woman on Facebook uploaded a few easy bodyweight exercises and when I linked her to some neat (yet harder) core exercise YouTube video she said that she doesn't want to get too big and wants to be able to walk. Smh, bitch you'll be too weak to walk in less than a decade if you think going on all fours and raising your leg every once in a while will train you.
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I found out that my boyfriend is a normie regarding exercise. He says deadlifts and squats with a barbell are too dangerous and he prefers doing leg curls and other machine stuff. If it's difficult and requires any effort it's automatically a meme apparently.
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> Low reps for strength

Almost nobody I have ever seen who is actually strong does this. They all do 10+ reps per set.
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>>42493871
dump him for being a faggot. he can't protect you anyway and he probably can't manhandle you in bed with his weak back
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>>42493871
desu he is right :))

freeweights are much more likely to injure yourself with, I used to do a lot until I took my shoulder out for several months from pushing it too hard

I stick to machines now if I'm at a good gym, safety/proper regime > memeing about what number you bench
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>>42492861
>B-275
>S-435

Another Rippletits victim
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>>42493903
But he refuses to go to a gym, wants to workout at home, so he ends up never training his legs
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>>42493269
>NIGGA YOU'RE NOT EVEN TRAINING 1/5 OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO OVERTRAIN
American education.
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>>42493952
ok? Don't confuse that with using machines because that sounds like he doesn't
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>>42493871
They are indeed dangerous if you don't know how to properly do it. It's ok if you have an experienced gym buddy or personal trainer to teach you how to do those exercises without hurting your back and knees, but all those newguys comin' to the gym for the first time in their life and doing something like pic related is just horrifying. It's wiser to avoid it than fucking up your back with free weights.
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Daily reminder that pic related are the guys circlejerking here about "normies" and their "normie routines".
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>>42493996
He is trying to find any excuse to not train legs, that's the point
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>>42493903
Or you could just not be a retard who ego-lifts.
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>>42493441

Are you retarded? Those stats are reflective of good total strength development.
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>>42494023
I deadlift and squat myself, I know that. I only ever needed help from a PT with Jefferson deadlifts. For normal ones just practiced in front of a mirror. So you don't desperately need help. It are just excuses from him
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>>42494052
It's reflective of a fatass who did SS
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>>42492810
>get abs by doing ab exercises
>eating fats will make you fat
>super low weight high reps to get "cut"
>smith machine for compounds is safer and just the same as a free bar
My mother in law is a well of useless fitness information. She once told me should could squat 2pl8 at her best. I asked if it was on the smith machine, which of course it was. She got turbo ass pained when I told her squatting 2pl8 on the moon doesn't count.
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>>42493441
Why do I need to keep proving you wrong faggots?
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>>42493510
you can't be that fucking stupid.
You forgot one part. ( ON A CUT! )
If you do low reps on your bulk, and start cutting with high reps, you can say goodbye to your muscles.
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>>42493409
Coworker said this when he started working out. His exact words were "I don't want to get ripped". Surprise - he didn't. He was a Canadian, figures.
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>>42494064
Hahaha. I take bigger shits than you. Please take some time off from internet. You're making a fool out of yourself.
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>>42493801
crunches are a shitty exercise
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>>42493510
the opportunity cost of higher rep ranges can cause you to lose muscle. Your body is constantly seeking to return to the lowest catabolic state possible. When you decrease the most efficient form of muscular training (heavy weight low rep to target type 2x muscle fibers) homeostasis will eventually start returning you to a more efficient baseline state. Unless you are lifting high volume for less than a month or on a cycle the opportunity cost WILL rob you of some gains.
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>>42494116
crunches have a tiny ROM. The entire ROM puts a shit ton of pressure on the cervical spine. If you do crunches at a decline, and hold some weights to enable linear progression and decrease the rep count below 12 then there is nothing wrong with crunches.

You are not wrong though. Normal Crunches are a low efficiency and high cost exercise.
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>>42492810
>Calisthenics doesn't build muscle at all
1.5 years later and now they're eating their words
>You need whey powder otherwise you're wasting your time
Yeah, as if it's magic in a bucket
>ask me for a gym routine
Greyskull or 5/3/1 for beginners
>too much work, I don't want to get bulky
>ask me for a home routine
Show them a basic routine that even my grandma can hop on
>doesn't seem enough
Show them my routine and how to progress into it quicker
>I don't want to get bulky like you

mother
fuckers

I'm tired of these people

>I want to tone
>TONE
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>Did you know beef is full of carcinogens
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>>42492861
>people who give their weights in pounds
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>>42494052
honestly bro I have no idea why people are harping on your lifts.
I bench 250
squat 340
dead 405

I think by the time I bench 275 I might have similar number to you. Easier to jump weight in squat than bench.

I am getting a kek out of how worked up you are.
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>>42492810
>you shouldn't be doing the same thing week by week
>you should do this list of random exercises to hit everything, everyday
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>>42492885
Anabolic windows and the effects of casein..

Caffeine is ~+10% performance.

Ashwaghandha is -30% cortisol and +15% test.

2-3 freshly crushed garlic cloves with 1-2g vitamin C is 300% NO boost with another potential 200-300% test.

4g/kg (recommended) of onion juice is a 300% test boost.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19384830

http://jn.nutrition.org/content/131/8/2150.long
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>>42494152
Most normies and newbs do normal crunches though. At my old high school they were and still are a staple almost 2 decades later. There are so many better ab exercises that don't fuck with your spine - Russian twists, Hanging leg raises, decline crunches etc.
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>>42494203
>everything, everyday
That's probably true though: muscle growth signalling lasts ~24-36hrs.
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>>42494190
>It's not
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>>42494060
No, dumb bitch, those are not excuses and he has nothing to prove to you or anybody else on this planet. If he doesn't like it - he ain't doing it. If you ain't happy with that then get the fuck out of that men's life.
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>>42493475
>>lifting with hurt your health, you will have serious issues with your knees and back by your 40s

that true
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>>42493378
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>>42492810
>you can locally burn fat

>deadlifts are horrible for your back
>lmao why should I do squats
>just do bicep curls bro
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>>42494194
They're all fags who will never achieve anything and live off from talking shit on internet.
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>hey man how do I get a nice chest?
go to the gym and lift weights
>I don't wanna waste time and money on that, how do I get a nice chest at home? I can just do pushups right?
not really it's way more efficient to just lift weights
>ehhhhh

t. rich motherfucker with tons of time and money

why are people determined to try and find some fitness hack that lets them get swole without lifting?
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>>42494255
laziness, a life of luxury and slave morality.
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>>42494064
Just gonna say this, as a skinny pussy like you, I'd stop now. You obviously have no fucking clue what someone who lifts that much looks like. Fatasses have shit bench. They do NOT have a good bench, they are fucking WEAK in the upper body. The ONLY strong part of a fatass is their legs. And deads and squats use a LOT of muscle groups apart from legs.
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>>42494103
>>42494123
>*woop woop*
Broscience patrol.. lowering intensity and increasing volume (from strength training to hypertrophy) is the topic, and neither sides are posting a source as of this post.
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>>42493706
Insulin produces an absorption effect on muscle cells (specifically, post-training at least).
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>>42494087
Nice body, Anon
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>>42494218
At the same time he complains to me about the size of his legs, how they make him self conscious. He asks me about how to train them, I give him a huge list of exercises, but everything is too difficult or too light and then he gets angry at me. Any solution I give is bad. And I make him feel bad by exercising myself, it makes him feel insecure.
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>>42493880
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>>42494312

Is this pic legit?
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>>42494218
just a quick reminder you are talking to an autist larping as a woman
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>>42493441
>>42492861

I put up similar numbers, I'm guessing you're over 6' tall? Tall guys with a big reach often have unimpressive bench stats, it's simply a matter of torque.

Your body needs to complete 2 motions in a bench, a pectoral flye and a tricep extension. The closer your hands the lower the torque on the flye, like hanging a weight from your elbow instead of your hand.

For me I feel 2 distinct motions to my bench, if I'm gonna fail it's on the flye not the tricep. I could go up in weight by bringing my hands in but I care a lot more about arm strength than my pecs
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>>42494277
I don't need no source. This is fucking logic.
Your body grows (your muscles) from adapting of what you do.

As I said before. If you do low reps and do higher while cutting, this can bring unnecessary changes with your muscles like volume/strength decrease.

Back to elementary school experiments bois Dependent/independent variables.

Why would you want to change something that stimulates your muscles while your main goal is fat loss at the time? That's pure autism.
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>You shouldn't donate blood because then your heart gets bigger and you die of a heart attack
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>>42494318
In general concept yes
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>>42494327
close, 5,11.
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>>42493491
>Don't go to they gym yet wait 30 minutes for me bro I haven't taken my pre workout yet
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>>42494325
Yes I'm an autist, but I'm not LARPing. I'm not going to post any pics so up to you as to whether you want to believe it or not. I'm actually dealing with this.
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>>42494296
ty baby. Nice camel
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>>42494190
OBSESSED
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>>42492861
I cut last year losing 30 pounds doing around 8-12 reps per set and my strength stayed about the same. Of course i was starting around 20% BF.
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>>42494212
yeah, im not going to waste my time doing "ninja" training everyday just so I can look like all the skinny people that suggest these things to me. Id be better off just doing parkour everyday or some shit
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>>42494332
Technically speaking the whole bulking vs. cutting research, the base of the discussion, is miniscule.

The suggestion is switching strength training for hypertrophy though (>>42494312).
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>>42494354
Dump him. He is holding you back. He also sounds like a whiny nu-male pussy crybaby. Think seriously about it - is he the father of your children? The man you want to be with forever? I can tell by what you already posted the answer is no so boot him and move on.

Also tits or GTFO. Do not reply without a timestamped photo of mammaries
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>>42494403
Well, 24hr. windows is science.

It's probably a 60% intensity.
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>>42494205
You drink that amount of onion juice and eat garlic... I mean lifting for girls is sad, but giving up girls for lifting...
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>>42494403
Well, 24hr. windows is the science.

It's probably a ~60-80% intensity.
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>>42494277
I have a degree in kinesiology bro.
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>>42494421
>samefagging?

lol, can't tell
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>>42494437
>appeal to authority
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>>42493409
mfw half of the normie guys I've known say shit like

>"Im already heavy enough, I just want to get toned",
>"I don't want to get as big as you (im not even big) just tone my arms some"
>"Bro I don't want to get ripped or anything I just wanna get abs and arms because that's what chicks like"
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>>42494437
And I have a degree in fucking your ass
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>>42494445
my response to all of those is
>trust you won't accidentally get ripped overnight
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>>42494205
>tfw eric bugenhagen will never train you
Why even live?
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>>42492849
mfw when a lady was telling me about how bad caffiene is for your body when I was buying gatorade and vodka..
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>>42494277
So type 1 muscle fibers respond to hypertrophy training. Compared to type 2x muscle fibers they grow at a rate of 20%.

The opportunity cost of focusing on high rep ranges in exchange of heavy lifting is around 60% of your gains. (Not 80, because you do engage type 2x fibers to a degree with hypertrophy training.)

Not only that, but you are decreasing the test boost you get from high weight low reps.

I think increasing volume from a two day 4x4 and 4x8 to two days of 4x6 and 4x8 is not a bad idea on a cut.

However every repition in volume has a diminishing return. 4-8 rep range produces similar efficiency, but at different ends of the range target 2a and 2x fibers differently.

Past 8 reps you see diminishing returns. Past 12 reps you see negative returns on muscular adaption. The decrease in musculature is a function of the opportunity cost of not lifting heavy and homeostastis.
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>>42494498
I don't even drink energy drinks but I can't count the number of times somebody who's on their 8th cup of coffee for the day has warned of the dangers of even a single can of monster or redbull.
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>>42494318
yes. The principles involved are central to the whole frequency v intensity v volume tradeoff debate.
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>>42494498
my friend says that gatorade is actually good for you and helps with regeneration, electrolytes and shiet. is that true? don't know anything about that subject
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>>42494404
the problem is that most modern research points to hypertrophy ranges above 8 being suboptimal.

While the principles are correct, the images number range is outdated.
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>>42492810
you only have a 30-minute window after lifting to ingest protein or else you won't make gains
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>>42494545
Most Gatorade is high in sugar, so before a workout it is ok for fast carbs. But electrolytes are mostly memes. Gatorade has some studies that indicate more efficiency in football players. But that research was ran and sponsered by gatorade and the nfl.
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>>42494444
only a fallacy if you aren't an authority
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>getting abs is all diet
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>>42492861
>B-275 S-435
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>>42494403
Well, 24hr. windows is science.

It's probably a 60% intensity.
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>>42494568
A shot of lime juice and a pinch of mineral salt in a glass of water has the same effect without all that sugar.
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>>42494403
Well, 25hr. windows is science.

It's probably a 55% intensity.
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>>42494403
Well, 24hr. windows is a science.

It's probably 60% intensity
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>>42494498
>my face when when
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>>42494421
>>42494612
>>42494632
>>42494645
lol, wtf is going on? Is this a new meme? Lurk more?
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>>42494403
Well, 26hr. windows is science.

It's probably a 50% intensity.
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>>42493824
lmao yes but they refuse to cut back on the calories. why do normies (especially women) think that exercise is way more important than diet, when it's the exact opposite?
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>>42494648
just kys yourself m8ate
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>>42494403
Well, 24Hr. windows is science.

It's probably a 65% intensity.
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"You're eating white rice? That's bad bro... have sweet potato or brown rice"

-Personal trainer
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>>42493871
> n-no homo, right?
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>>42494648
I fucked up
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>>42494403
Well, 22hr. windows is science.

It's probably a 1.3% intensity.
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>>42494526
>So type 1 muscle fibers respond to hypertrophy training. Compared to type 2x muscle fibers they grow at a rate of 20%. .. test boost
It's helpful posting claims with sources.

>elite bodybuilders have about the same fiber type distribution as normal people
https://www.t-nation.com/training/tapping-your-full-growth-potential

>homeostastis
But that and anabolism should logically come fine with a good diet (enough protein, and plausibly keto).
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>>42494576
>what is research
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>>42493749
tfw i was a skinny auschwitz nerd and thought linus had an "ideal nerd body"
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>>42494403
Well, 24hr. windows is the science.

Its probably a 20~60% intensity.
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>>42494403
Well, [Enter text here]. windows is the science.

Its probably a [Enter bottom text here] intensity.
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>>42494087
You big as hell homie
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>>42493824
You will if don't overeat.
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Saw a Auschwitz mode skelly ask a dude at my gym for bulking advice. Auschwitz mode says he eats like crazy. His answer?

>it's your metabolism bruh
>got to try eating other stuff bruh

>2000+17
>metabolism

I find it sad that these people have no fucking clue. My first question to Mr Auschwitz would have been about calorie intake and calorie counting. Oh well, not my problem if Mr Auschwitz will never make it.
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>>42494312
What's the difference between strength and power?
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>>42493269
Similarly,
>I don't want to use free weights, I don't want to get big
>*spends 3 hours running to get "toned"*
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>>42494087
dyel? ha ha naw I'm kidding. Mirin' those forearms
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>>42494081
>squatting 2pl8 on the moon doesn't count.

Nice
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>>42494437
So you shouldn't have any trouble finding sources.
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>>42493448
this is so dumb
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>>42494026
kek
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Why are super low weights and high reps advertised so much to women?
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>>42494205
I like onions but there's no way I'm gonna drink a glass of onion juice every day. Do non juiced cooked onions have a similar effect?
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>>42492822
Low Reps High Weight = Good for non steroid
Medium Reps Medium Weight = Good for Steroid
High Reps Low Reps = Cardio
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>>42494972
I guess it's the difference between lifting something and lifting something fast
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>>42494205
>eating garlic cloves
>drinking onion juice
literally turning yourself into a disgusting cocksucker who can be smelled from across the street

I hope you work out at home and don't subject other more civilized human beings to your disgusting stench.
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>>42495261
>High Reps Low Reps = Cardio
no u
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>>42494568
Chocolate milk brah

https://www.fitnessmagazine.com/recipes/healthy-eating/superfoods/chocolate-milk-after-workout/
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>>"Bro I don't want to get ripped or anything I just wanna get abs and arms because that's what chicks like"

This is straight bullshit in my experience too, girls I know are all about shoulders and legs
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>cardio is better for fat loss than weightlifting
>girls who do weightlifting will suddenly start looking like female bodybuilders (mostly undesirable)
>you can either lose fat or gain muscle, not do both at the same time
>weightlifting increases your risks of injury (in the long term it protects your body)
>you need to eat 5-7 times a day if you want to make gainz
>you need to eat tomatoes / berries and the like for fiber and micronutrients (actually they are mostly water and you'd be better off with flax seeds / multivitamin / tap water

etc etc
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I see critising of normies abs workouts, /fit/ how do you aim for your abs?
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>>42494568
>electrolytes is mostly a meme

you're a meme
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>>42492810
>gf concerned about normal lifting because she doesn't want to get injured
>goes to the equivalent of a crossfit gym now

I'm glad she's exercising but jesus christ, when she shows me the retarded shit they do in this class it's a wonder she isn't in a body cast.
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>>42494745
>>42494745
>>42494745
Dude, clear you don't know what you are talking about. Even the dumbest PT knows that the different muscle finers respond to different types of training.

Of course elite bodybuilders have the same body fiber distribution as normal people. You don't add muscle fibers in weight training you nincompoop. You just increase their length.

>Recommending keto

jesus m8
logically they don't come fine with a good diet. Their is a physiological response to instances of high stress on the sns. That is why you get a bigger test boost from high weight low reps than high reps no weight.
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>>42495142
I'm not going to go through the effort to source my textbooks and cite on 4chan. Look it up. Prove me wrong. I'm not going to go out of my way to defend my burden of proof. I'm 100% correct and you would just be wrong no matter how I defend the science.

Read a book on weightlifting before you sperg out on the logical basis of an argument.
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>>42495261
this
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>>42495235
Garlic loses effects with that, so the same is possible for onion. A whole onion is imaginably OK though, but the 1-2g of vitamin C is probably still helpful.

>>42495310
>eating garlic cloves
Defused with oil, btw..
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Some fuck head at my gym gave me advice about high reps and sets are better than lifting heavy. Started strength training and now I can out lift him and now he's giving me shit. hahahah he mad
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>>42495310
>what are peppermint / cinnamon leaf oils
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>>42494239
squats aren't for everyone. just think about it: you're resting a massive amount of weight on your spine and lowering it down to strain your knees. if any of your knees gives out laterally you're in danger of serious injury. not every human being is genetically built to do it effectively.
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>>42495593
>what is sourcing

>high reps no weight
..Absolute conjecture. Hypertrophy training is 60-80%.
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>>42495508
Deads and squats supplemented by hanging leg raises, russian twists and planks
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>>42493689
How did you find me
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>>42495346
omg lmao
meant low weight
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>>42495310
>literally turning yourself into a disgusting cocksucker who can be smelled from across the street
Hey, at least ticks don't bite when he goes hiking.
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>>42493248
Stop lying about your numbers. You don't lift, you just read about lifting. You're not Mike fucking Israetel. He lifts. That's why people listen to him.
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>>42494087
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>>42494657
I agree. I have no fucking clue what this is, but I like it. I think it's a samefag though.
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>>42494403
Well, 24hr. windows is science.

It's probably a 60% intensity.
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>>42495704
This. It took me awhile to finally admit that squats aren't worth the risk for me, personally. I'm tall, have flat feet, weak knees, and chronic lower back problems. I do specific stretches and excersizes, etc. But i can just do lunges and machines and stay injury free
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>>42495704

>not every human being is genetic built to do one of the most basic human movements effectively

Rly gets your noggin joggin
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>>42493880
But have you ever seen them progressing? The guys I've seen benching 3pl8 for volume are all in their early 30's after probably a decade of lifting and have been benching 315 for the last 6 months.
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>>42492810
I just hear the 'turning fat into muscle' one a lot. I don't know if they are dumb and mean it literally or it's just how they say 'get into better shape' but I furrow my brow every time.
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>>42494087
I would post a picture of my body to prove you wrong, but I could be identified based on my scars (used to be involved with a fight club, stabbed multiple times) and my gang affiliated tattoos from when I spent 10 years in one of the toughest prisons in the country (I’m, probably, in the top priority list of the FBI right now).

I know your type, though. You think because you can squat and deadlift heavy that you're a big guy with an impressive physique. I have built plenty of muscle without those autistic lifts. You probably think you're superior because you follow the routines of a fat little redneck man with no real knowledge of building muscular or strength. You don’t know shit about muscles and strength if you have not trained the way I had, I literally learned from the best, and you got no shit on me, you fat autistic neckbeard.
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>>42492861
i can outlift you faggo
B-603 S-925 D-760
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>>42496182
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

Learn VPNs from the best too, though.
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>>42495967
Dude if you are doing 3 plate bench 5x10 how much more do you even need to progress? Be real now
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>>42494403
Well, 24hr. windows is science.

It's probably a 67% intensity.
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>>42495936
squat chads out
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>>42496182
>fat austistic neckbeard who lifted for 25 years
>fat autistic neckbeard also worked with pencil neck geek who had PhD in physiology and anatomy and lifted for 10 years at national level
>my bros over here in prison know more about lifting than those two. I am very important, cant prove myself by posting pic
>i wouldn't lie to you
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>>42494060
How the hell did a PT help you with Jeffersons? Most can't even help with a regular deadlift.
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>>42496182
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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>>42492861
>thinking those numbers are impressive
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>>42492810
>whey protein builds fake muscles
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>>42494354
If it's such a hangup make an ultimatum for him. Or is this the only issue you two are having?
Also

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>>42493871
>He says deadlifts and squats with a barbell are too dangerous
kek
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>>42493448
This isn't even about fitness specifically.
Anytime I want to go full autist about any of my hobbies I need to stop myself because I know I will be meet with a similar reaction

Fuck man
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>>42495508
Spider crawls, bosu ball core work, planks, and whatever that machine where you go 90 degrees with your torso and legs with your back to the pad.
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>>42496182
>Hurr durr gangs and stuff
>Toughest prison and wouldn't want you pussies too die because you know al capone
Gonna call bullshit on that one
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>>42496415
How insecure are you little boy?
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>>42495615
I'm not the one you argued with. I don't even care about your discussion. I just hate it when people claim things on the internet without providing sources to back it up.
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>>42492930
This
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>>42494190
>ameriburgers
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In this thread I feel home, thanks for your knowloedge guys and not letting me be one of those casual scums that "lift"
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>using a belt will prevent me from getting injuries
>proceeds to make 48 sets of 2 kg curls
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>>42496182
kekekeke my first thought >>42496227
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>>42493824
>>42494947
>You will if don't overeat.
>Implying they got chubby NOT overeating
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>>42496274
>not wanting to lmao5plate bench

dyel?
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>>42494087
your mom has a nice curio cabinet
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>>42496826
i just stopped engaging people in conversation about fitness. i know some people who know what's what and i discuss things with them, but mostly whenever normal folk as how i got ripped, what i do in the gym, have i heard of this or that i just answer politely in such a way that no follow up is possible. if they think eating cabbage once a week and doing yoga will make them look like jessica alba, let them believe it.
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>>42495704
spotted the bitch ass faggot, dont be a bitch, push tru it!

>what is stretching and learning proper form
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>It's muuhh metabolism bruh
>I cannot gain/lose any weight

I just nod and agree and hope that the topic gets changed fast
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>>42495429
>>you can either lose fat or gain muscle, not do both at the same time

this is true if you have some time actually lifting
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>>42495933
so what you double nigger? start with the bar, work your form and slowly add weight when you're performing well
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spot-targeting fat
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>>42498120
fucking manlet
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>>42493431
Sounds like you're doing it right to me. Max weight is just going to make you a bit lightheaded sometimes
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>>42494194
idk about that bro, going up 100 lbs in squat is pretty impressive
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>I'm scared of tearing something
so what pussy lift
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>>42495593
What routine would you recommend for someone who has a high bf% and is losing weight atm
Im pretty dyel so i can still build some muscle while losing fat i think
Would be greatly appreciated
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>Start lifting and get in shape and will get all teh gurlz.

Biggest lie ever told
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>>42498643
just get on a strength routine while keeping a caloric deficit

also read the fucking

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>>42494403
24

60
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>>42494205
How many onions does it take to make 400 grams of juice?
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>>42494666
Because normies in general go with their unfounded feelings, not even gut feelings. Exercise feels intense ( even if they are not even exercising that hard with their shitty 15 minute minimum level treadmill and elliptical faggotshit). They don't care to, are too dumb to do basic math, or don't want to look weird.
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>>42495593
>you just increase their length
>implying my muscles have gotten longer because of lifting

end your life
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>>42494666
my gf is full normie, she says once she's exercising she'll get on point with her diet, but desu back when she did go to the gym she never gave a fuck about diet at this point i am not even caring about getting her into lifting anymore.
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>>42494026
Jesus christ first over from the right has the face of a God why is he lifting at all
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>>42495261
>High Reps Low Reps
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>>42498420
This is stupid advice
Never lift without proper flexibility and strength
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>>42499075
desu it was more self motivation because that's why im still doing calisthenics instead of going to a gym to make real gains
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>>42495704
agreed
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>>42499150
What's stopping you from doing weighted calisthenics?
Even Mark Rippedslow says that they are more effective compound movements, and the lack of incremental weight increases is their only drawback.
But now we have vests and shit so thats out of the window
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my normie mate who is a methhead and also benches 3.5 plate is convinced that whey protein concentrate is a scam and you can only build muscles from isolate

he also thinks 8-12 reps is the ideal rep range for getting stronger and thinks powerlifters are retards

but he's honestly my favourite person in the world so I can put up with his sometimes retarded advice. he knows how to use insulin as a steroid
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>>42499217
oh sick i didnt know they were like a serious option, ill look into it
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>>42494568
>electrolytes are memes
mostly true for the gym imo, only useful to be mindful of keeping an intake of electrolytes if youre doing some full day strenuous exercise ie: surfing hiking biking etc. basically anytime you would consider eating heavy carbs the night before is when you should consider working more electrolytes into your system the next day.
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>>42496298
Tfw femurs 3 inches shorter than tibia
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>>42499502
Mine are literally longer than my torso.
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>>42494974
Other than mistaking calling low body fat % "tone", there is nothing wrong with this
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>>42498098
Post body.
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>>42499633

Jelly of my bottom position, femurcuck?
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>you need to workout to lose weight
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>>42496182
bro lmao
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>>42496182

Please be pasta
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>>42499226
>he also thinks 8-12 reps is the ideal rep range for getting stronger and thinks powerlifters are retards
I think he's onto something if he wants to keep the effort below his absolute maximum. He gets bigger, he increases weight, gets bigger etc., but doesn't increase his strength relative to body weight as much as a powerlifter.
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>>42493993
How? He's right.
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/05/youre-overtrained-huh-its-all-in-your.html?m=0
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/05/overtraining-part-2.html?m=0
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>>42494971
>>metabolism
Makes a difference. I traveled around for two months with a lady friend that's at least ten cm smaller and about 20-30 kg lighter. She's skinny, I am not. And we were able to split the cost at an even 50/50 because we consumed the exact same amount.
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>>42495640
So just a big salad every day.
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>>42496833
Lizard walk and L-sit too
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>>42493536
holy shit. i havnt heard that one before.
please tell me thats not real
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>>42496687
my roommate spilt this shit too. Stupid bitch
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>>42498643
ppl split 4x4 and 4x8
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>>42499673
Reminds me of another thing I've heard
>If your knees are in front of your toes, you're doing them wrong
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>>42492861
>Higher reps will cause you to lose muscle (while on a cut)

that's incorrect tho lol
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>>42494568
>electrolytes are mostly memes

Don't listen to this retard. Electrolytes are really important, especially while fasting. People don't get enough potassium a day and if you had none for a significant amount of time your heart could actually stop.
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>>42494087
Mirin everything
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>>42496182
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electrolytes are NOT memes and are highly helpful for sweaty and exhaustive endurance training
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>>42493706
carbs nigga
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>>42493510
But lifting less while eating less and doing endurance training will make you lose muscle you fucking retard.
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>>42496826
>99% of people you meet will just get mad if you have serious engaging knowledge filled conversations with them

Fuck this world.
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>>42500560
not wrong but u put a high amount of stress on your knees and risk fucking up your patellar tendon
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>>42499055
>why is he lifting at all

He's not
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>as soon as you stop taking creatine all your muscle turns to water and fat
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>>42496182
Come on now Anon, this is just embrassin
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>>42495221
Because that's what they want to hear.
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>>42496182
what u fraid of faget
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>>42492810
''I need to train abs more often so i can get a sixpack''
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>>42493689
this
i don't even know why we still hung out with that guy
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>>42493206

That janoy episode where he comes into the gym with his potbelly wrapped in saran wrap.
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>>42493689
>plays 5 hours of league per day
>bro why do you work out you don't even need big muscles in everyday life
>it's a waste of time

Fuck
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>>42493788
This is sad, I hated my quads when I was younger, I thought they made me look gay. Now I regret not training them for so many years, I love DL and squats now, I want gross huge quads that I can't fit in my pants.
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>>42492861
M-michael?
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>>42498898
>>42498898
1g/kg of juice.. *
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>>42496182
>I’m, probably, in the top priority list of the FBI right now
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>>42493853
>responding to normies on fb
Rookie mistake, my friend
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>>42494403
Well, 24hr. windows is science.

It's probably a 0% intensity.
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>>42493206
This is why I wear a sweatband around my forehead; not to keep sweat from my eyes, but to reduce fat in those problem areas on my skull
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>>42496182
Blaha pls go
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>>42494081
>squatting 2plates on the moon doesn't count
My ducking sides
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>>42495704
Science disagrees. Maybe you mean not everyone is built to squat hundreds of pounds.
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>>42496182
I'm saving this pasta
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> Programs involving the same amounts of sets and reps for every muscle,without focusing on their personal needs
Do people even realise that training this way it's just going to increase their overall strenght (which is okay) but it's not necessarily going to make them look more fit?
> Anon once you stop lifting/training you'll lose all the muscles
I won't, listen to me, I get to keep these gains forever okay?
not the pump or definition, but the mass? Definetly.
Change would happen if fuck up my diet by eating less or more food that I'm supposed to ea or live a shitty lifestyle.
> I would look like that too if I took supplements (like protein,creatine,bcaa,vitamins) aka he takes supplements,his gains are not valid
Supplements help with recovery and endurance , also they give you overall better training sessions,but they don't create muscles out of thin air.
Will you recover faster? Sure.
Will you be able of lifting more or do better sessions? Sure.
All of this combined together is what makes muscles ,and even if creatine's side effect is water retention,it doesn't make muscle.
> Yeah bro,3x10 of this, 3×15 of curls = gains
> Yeah bro, it's a religion, it's like math
JUST. Let me tell you a secret okay? You can't fucking do it wrong unless you have a terrible posture,you try to lift too much or you don't even try hard enough and just half ass it,just feel your body and the muscles work and make sure you do the movements right,also use different exercises so you train all the fibers which lays inside a muscle better,you won't ruin nothing if you do 2×12 with 50 bls and then1x8 with 75 lbs .
And these we're just the first things I've thought off
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>>42496182
I would post a picture of my body to prove you wrong, but I could be identified based on my scars (used to be involved with a fight club, stabbed multiple times) and my gang affiliated tattoos from when I spent 10 years in one of the toughest prisons in the country (I’m, probably, in the top priority list of the FBI right now).

I know your type, though. You think because you can squat and deadlift heavy that you're a big guy with an impressive physique. I have built plenty of muscle without those autistic lifts. You probably think you're superior because you follow the routines of a fat little redneck man with no real knowledge of building muscular or strength. You don’t know shit about muscles and strength if you have not trained the way I had, I literally learned from the best, and you got no shit on me, you fat autistic neckbeard.
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>>42494972
Running w/ heavy backpack for a short distance vs. Sprinting for a short distance.
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>>42494403
Well, 24hr. windows is a science.

It's probably an intensity.
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>>42493880
Yeah fuck any olympic or powerlifting coach. Your sample size of 5 roided out 3pl8 benchers in your gym is worth more than decades of scientific studies and proven training methods producing champions in the real world.
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>>42495508
Heavy cable crunch and landmine 180s.
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>>42495508
Going around and asking people their 1 rep maxes
What are your btw?
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>>42494403
wtf is this
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>>42492810
>thread about broscience from normies
>full of broscience from /fit/

lmao
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>>42495261
>High Reps Low Reps = Cardio
>/fit/ math
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>>42502403
Preparation H bro, he's no little man bro
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>>42492861
Your stats are shit lmao
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>>42493706
It's weird how actual science gets to normies and then they make it sound really fucking stupid.
Carbohydrates after working out help with protein synthesis
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>>42494205
>http://jn.nutrition.org/content/131/8/2150.long
Can't open this page, someone has the DOI or the article name?
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>>42505739
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11481410
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>>42505795
Thanks bby
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>>42496182
What in Davy Jones’ locker did ye just bark at me, ye scurvy bilgerat? I’ll have ye know I be the meanest cutthroat on the seven seas, and I’ve led numerous raids on fishing villages, and raped over 300 wenches. I be trained in hit-and-run pillaging and be the deadliest with a pistol of all the captains on the high seas. Ye be nothing to me but another source o’ swag. I’ll have yer guts for garters and keel haul ye like never been done before, hear me true. You think ye can hide behind your newfangled computing device? Think twice on that, scallywag. As we parley I be contacting my secret network o’ pirates across the sea and yer port is being tracked right now so ye better prepare for the typhoon, weevil. The kind o’ monsoon that’ll wipe ye off the map. You’re sharkbait, fool. I can sail anywhere, in any waters, and can kill ye in o’er seven hundred ways, and that be just with me hook and fist. Not only do I be top o’ the line with a cutlass, but I have an entire pirate fleet at my beck and call and I’ll damned sure use it all to wipe yer arse off o’ the world, ye dog. If only ye had had the foresight to know what devilish wrath your jibe was about to incur, ye might have belayed the comment. But ye couldn’t, ye didn’t, and now ye’ll pay the ultimate toll, you buffoon. I’ll shit fury all over ye and ye’ll drown in the depths o’ it. You’re fish food now.
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>>42505916
kek first time seeing this one
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>>42496182

I don’t give a fuck who you are or where you live. You can count on me to be there to bring your fucking life to a hellish end. I’ll put you in so much fucking pain that it’ll make Jesus being nailed to a cross in the desert look like a fucking back massage on a tropical island. I don’t give a fuck how many reps you have or how tough you are IRL, how well you can fight, or how many fucking guns you own to protect yourself. I’ll fucking show up at your house when you aren’t home. I’ll turn all the lights on in your house, leave all the water running, open your fridge door and not close it, and turn your gas stove burners on and let them waste gas. You’re going to start stressing the fuck out, your blood pressure will triple, and you’ll have a fucking heart attack. You’ll go to the hospital for a heart operation, and the last thing you’ll see when you’re being put under in the operating room is me hovering above you, dressed like a doctor. When you wake up after being operated on, wondering what ticking time bomb is in your chest waiting to go off. You’ll recover fully from your heart surgery. And when you walk out the front door of the hospital to go home I’ll run you over with my fucking car out of no where and kill you. I just want you to know how easily I could fucking destroy your pathetic excuse of a life, but how I’d rather go to a great fuckng length to make sure your last remaining days are spent in a living, breathing fucking hell. It’s too late to save yourself, but don’t bother committing suicide either… I’ll fucking resuscitate you and kill you again myself you bitch-faced phaggot. Welcome to hell, population: you
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>>42493431

I think that's normal. I usually need to sit down after finishing my diddly sets
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>>42495933
how tall?
Im tall and squatting is the only thing to save my legs from pencil mode
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>tomatoes make you fat, they are pure sugar
>tomatoes are a vegetable and a fruit, I saw it on a tv quiz show

These are literally from yesterday.




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