Hi /fit/. Been browsing for 2 years or so. How do you deal with death? Seriously. It has been messing me up pretty badly and in all honesty, I don't life to end. As shitty as it can be sometimes. Should I focus on mental gains? Different attitudes towards things? Any help is appreciated.
Realize that jesus is the way the truth the light
>>44314299>implying we won't be able to upload ourselves into a new body like chappie in 30ys
>>44314299Did you lose someone or are you talking about your own mortality?
its like skydiving without a parachute, at first you freak out but then you realize theres not much you can do about it
>>44314336Our own mortality. It's such an inconceivable thought that there is absolutely nothing after this right? Can we just lift in the cosmos...?
>>44314299Death isn't a bad thing. It's just the end. Life is hard man, life is stressful and cruel and difficult, even for us shitposting on Cambodian river rafting forums. You have a certain amount of time alive, so make the best of it, and when the ride is over, it's over. My biggest fear isn't that the ride will end. It's that one day I'll step off the roller coaster without having enjoyed the ride as much as I should have.
>>44314350I guess but, doesn't the thought still keep you up at night? Perfect example for me rn
>>44314353Well said. And nice qt to post with
>>44314351No one will ever be able to prove anything in our liftime and I like to prepare for the worst. Did 13+billion years of nonexistence bother you before you were born? It probably won't bother you after.
>>44314368I guess the concept of nonexistence is the strangest part of it all. Or God and all that is real
wish my life was enjoyable >death feels like an escape
This thread is not /fit/ related and belongs on /b/
>>44314370I see where you're coming from. Just wish it wasn't an everyday thought.
>>44314321The crusades were such an absolute clusterfuck that I don't understand how anyone can seriously want to LARP as one beyond wanting to kill brown people.
>>44314299Do you mean the death of someone else, or your own?Frankly, everyone deals with the passing of people they know differently, and it's nobodys place to tell anyone how they *should* deal with it. This isn't a criticism, it's just how I view the subject.If it's your own death you're worrying about, then unless you're terminally ill, or very, very old (literally end-of-life old, which I seriously doubt) then I wouldn't spend any time dwelling on the subject -- although if you feel a compulsion to do so, then maybe you should consider talking to someone about it, you might be depressed and not even realize it.If you yourself are facing dying from terminal illness (or worse), then all I can say is this: everyone dies at some point. It's inevitable, and my feeling on the subject is that as thinking, sentient, self-aware beings, it's only logical and rational to do our best to fight being afraid of dying. When it happens, it happens, and when that moment comes nothing you say, do, or think will stop it from happening.
>>44314321Religion always uses the carrot-and-stick approach to managing the populace: Heaven is the carrot, and Hell is the stick. Jesus is the one holding them both -- or so his so-called 'prophets' claim.>just yet another System of Control>leveraging Pretty Pretty Lies some people tell themselves, to fight the fear of deathYou should be ashamed of yourself.
>>44314387If god is real we already have the answer to the 'what comes after' question. I like to think about the other possibilities.
>>44314299I know how you feel, anon.For the past 12 years I have had a fascination with death which has grown until it became my only real interest. All else I do is a pastime, something to leave behind out of vanity when I finally can reach my ultimate goal. I know it will all pass soon after, but it tickles me to fuck with the living from ~beyond the grave~. Death is exciting. I mean, the substance of death is boring. But think about how you'll be found. What impression you can leave. What it will be like to no longer be a human. No longer perceive yourself as a single, 'thinking' organism. Your body will rot and scatter, and it will never be "you" again. Isn't that incredible? For one small moment, all these parts and pieces were absorbed into this dying form, and then they would never assemble again. They reach out, then, and they'll caress the soft flesh of all the "other" things - everything you ever wanted to touch, in some sense you already have and you forever will. Do you really need anything else?
>>44314440Here's the logic of the situation:If there's something that comes after this life, you'll know soon enough.If there's nothing, and you just cease to be, then you won't even be aware of it, will you?Either way why waste more time than it took to read the above worrying about it?
>>44314299Read up on the von Neumann interpretation, and then read the Upanishads. This won't answer all your questions, but it will give you a reasonable framework within which to speculate>>44314419>if it's not an imminent threat, no need to think about it, just bury your head in the sand
I found myself thinking about the end and the beginning and realized they are equally close to nothingness. Where did the universe come from? For the non-religious types, the best we can say is nothing. There was nothing and suddenly there was everything. When we die, we become nothing but maybe from that nothing there will sprout everything. A different everything. A different universe. Unlikely but possible and that smidgen of hope is what keeps me content. Maybe I'll become my own universe
Fuck all this noise about life, im here trying to preserve the white race
>>44314299Read some CS Lewis and GK Chesterton bro. There is more to life than just the physical.
>>44314299>How do you deal with death?By selling coffins and urns n sheit.
>>44314430You have to be over 18 to post here.
>>44314299I wouldn't be the one to ask, a little over a year ago I watched my dad die from leukemia and decided drinking a liter of vodka a night, and a handle on Saturdays was a good way to deal with it. I quit* in July because I didn't want to dishonor my dad's memory by dying of liver failure in my forties and leave my kids fatherless.
i had a nightmare or should i say aweird dreamI was at someones house helping with housework and had been left alone, i was putting something away in a shed and saw a loaded pistol sitting on a table, i immediately thought of shooting myself in the head amd had an existential crisis and freaked out pretty much in my dream
>>44314299it's all a dream senpai. Don't overthink it. It's a video game. You're a human, play your role. Live as best you can. I ruminate on death myself, but I don't dwell. What purpose could it do? You will end. LIVE FOR THE FUNERAL. Do things that make your life fucking COUNT. Losers think it's all about the fucking dopamine hits– alcohol, weed, women, vidya, drugs, endless pleasure. It's bigger than that. It's LEGACY. It's COMMUNITY. Have children. You will die, and no one is coming to save you. Accept it. The big sleep is coming. Live your story.
>>44314299If you're taking that much time up worrying about death you're wasting the life you claim to cherish so dearly. Just man up, accept death is inevitable and forget about it; hopefully you spend your precious time wisely enough that when the day comes if you're lucky enough to die as an old man you'll do so with a smile on your face and not go out screaming like a bitch.
>>44314495Oh yeah? I'm assuming b.c. you're white. Only losers identify with their race. You know why? Because you've never DONE anything yourself, so you have to rely on other greater better people who just happen to share you same skin color because you're such a fucking waste of humanity, you could never match their accomplishments. I'm also white, but I don't pretend to to share some sort of "greatness" just because of my lack of melanin. You're a fucking loser, and you'll always be one with this mindset. I wish I could look at your pathetic fucking loser face right now. I'm so much better than you in every. fucking. way. because my accomplishments are my own, not because of my fucking "race". You'd be lucky to eat my shit for breakfast you bottom-feeder. My children will shit on your grave. Currently, you are NOTHING. But you can change....... there is still time.....
>>44314560>projection: the post>also brainlet implying being proud of your race is bad and doesn't motivate you to be better
>>44314560>getting this upset about 1 line of textwhat a joke
it's always kind of on my mind deep down. meh, I fear not. but it is a curious and inconceivable thing.
>>44314353>Life is hard man, life is stressful and cruel and difficultIdk man, for the majority of us it's not that hard. I try to take time everyday to appreciate my position in life since I'm way better off than the majority of people and I know it could end any day
>>44314353Go back to tumblr
>>44314299>How do I deal with restaurants?>I've been posting from this restaurant for two years now, and I don't want to leave.>People are asking me what I'm doing here, and I just respond "I haven't finished eating yet.".>There's three meals in a day, and then after that day is done, then here comes the NEXT day.>I have to eat, /fit/. The thought of being without food scares me. For one thing, I won't be able to eat.
>>44314299"If all you wannna do with your life is just photosynthesise, then you deserve every moment of your sleepless nights that you spend wondering how you're gonna die"
>>44314618This is dumb
>>44314530this. fuck being a hedonist faggot, live according to your nature and you will realize that death is also in your nature therefore cannot be negative
>>44314560>implying letting jamal fuck your wife makes you better than mefuck off cuck
>>44314623No, really: What are you doing here, that can't be done in a hundred years? Don't just live for the sake of living - you have to finish your work some time, and move on. You're like that guy who hogs the rack and keeps claiming that it's still his set.
>>44314629>everything natural is goodyou shouldnt have been vaccinated
>>44314678if you can't control something then why would you let it worry you? are you insecure?
I've lost many family members recently as well as close friends. Last one was last friday, I was with my bro on new years eve and he complimented my gains.I've had some anxiety regarding death before, but it's been a long time now. I guess you get used to the fact that you don't really matter and that nothing lasts forever. It also makes day to day struggles easier, knowing they won't last forever. Problems will either go away or I'll die.There's also this quote by epicurus which eases my anxiety in regards to the day I'll die. you could also think of death as, not in a religious way, the long awaited return home to where you came from before you were born. No matter what that actually is, it's somewhat comforting to me at least.
>>44314360that's what hes alluding too, you freak out in your 20's and 30's when you fully realize your own mortality, and you worry that you're wasting your life or that there must be more to all of this.then it gets bad when you turn 50, and you have the midlife crisis and realize you've probably lived more than half your life (so you buy a sports car and divorce your wife of course)but from what i've heard people over 65 don't really give a shit anymore. they're sick of this shit called life and realize they've had their fun and theres really nothing to be afraid of when it comes to dying
>>44314696>can't defend your logic so you change your argumentdont pretend like you arent a brainlet
>>44314560Then why were virtually all great men throughout history proud of their race? Were Ben Franklin or Abraham Lincoln or General Lee losers?
>>44314299only cowards fear death
>>44314333or do a full brain scan and be a digital copy of ourselves in a digital universe like in SOMA.yikes
>>44314795>all great men through out history >doesn't mention Malcolm X, Tupac and Nelson Mandela
>>44314360it doesn't anymorei had those panic attacks and sleepless nights when i was 4-5 years old. i fully remember my very first panic attack as if it was yesterday, yet it's 20 years ago. I mean, the thought would occur when my head hit the pillow until my teens i guess...And even the thought of the universe and just how fucking huge it is would scare me. Now it's become a meditation in order to sleep, drifting off to dreamland imagining gravity is reversed and i fall into outer space.
>>44314839You won't be aware of that copy, though.Read up on particle physics: One atom at one place, isn't the same as one atom in another place. You won't have an awareness through your copy. If you would, siblings would be partly telepathic and shit.
I'm more afraid of the actual act of dying than the state of death. That is the worst for me. I am fine with being in a state of nothing if that is what comes after, I won't even know if so. And if something does happen after death, well I'll know then.
>>44314299Simple: Become content. There’s a reason that so many people are content with where they are in life. It’s a survival mechanic.Someone post the chart, though.
>>44314874i know i knowi've played the gamei've seen the black mirror episodeit's all good. it's lame but it's all good..
>>44314953I haven't seen any episodes of Black Mirror.
If you die you die, no pleasures no struggles, only peace
Thinking of death makes me think of a day in the life by the Beatles.
>>44314299You only fear death now because you're young, capable and filled with ambition and hope for the futureOnce you're 70+ death wont seem like such a bad thing
>>44314299I know it sounds corny but try reading the bible. I dont even believe in God, because I know God. I feel safe always. Even if you can't make yourself believe it is still an accomplishment to read the whole book all the way through. Keep in mind tho that the people who wrote the bew testament were disciples and not prophets. Christ is not God. The word "trinity" does not appear a single time in the whole entire book.
>>44314299Do something you feel is meaningful with the time you have. Raise children and spend time with them. Write a book; paint.
>>44315157>I don't believe in god>speaks straight blasphemyclearly.
>>44314969lies, there's no peace, only nothing
>>44314353not sure if its the 150/150 test tren eod, but I'm in love with that qt.
>>44314391>philosophy isn't part of the /fit/ lifestylet. brainlet
>>44314396>beyond wanting to kill brown people.that's the point Anon
>>44314496>Read some CS LewisI rather wouldn't recommend that, really shallow philosophy. OK as a societal and political thinker or whatever.
OP here. I just got to work and I open up Firefox by phone to see all these replies. I genuinely want to say thank you to everyone who took the time to come to my Aid and share their stories, triumph's, and ways they coped in their own way. To the one guy that posted that this belongs on B, it doesn't. This is literally a mental health thing. Mental Fitness as well as physical fitness and this in particular has been affecting my physical fitness. The only real one that knows about my thoughts as my girlfriend, bless her heart. I'm going to take the time to read everyone's responses here and Implement them in my own way. I guess when it comes down to it, you just need to live life to the fullest. Don't dwell on the stupid shit. Just do your best to be happy. I feel in making this post it might have helped some other people as well as myself and I feel it's going to change my Outlook on a lot of things as of late. Once again, thank you everyone here on /fit/. It's nice to have anonymity but still have someone to talk to
>>44314299The goal of physical fitness is not to stave off aging or death, but rather to age gracefully.To exercise is to do the statistically best thing in order to retain and maximize cogency, while and virility, while staving off Alzheimer's and dementia, and..... you look damned sexy while doing it.You will die, stars will die.The key is to live well, to live with mobility, stamina and gusto.That is why we lift weights. That is why we run. That is why we study. That ideal life you've been envisioning? It's been yours all along... now TAKE IT!
>>44317585nice blog, fagit
>>44317626No need to be negative. Just showing appreciation
>>44317618Thank you for this
>>44314430please learn how analogies work
>>44314485If you were a universe you’d have men somewhere inside you, you’re a fag lol
>>44314621It's waste, not spend. Frank Turner is fucking great.
>>44314299How old are you? I used to be you, when I was 20. Now I am 30 and I am thankful I won’t have to live forever, because people are shit, and the world is shit.Age gracefully and hope that you die before we accidently cause a nuclear disaster.
>>44314299You have to walk to the light. Stop posting here and move on to a better place.
>>44314321This but unironically. But you can’t approach Christianity looking for relief from worry or fear of death. “In religion, as in war and everything else, comfort is the one thing you cannot get by looking for it. If you look for truth, you may find comfort in the end: if you look for comfort you will not get either comfort or truth -- only soft soap and wishful thinking to begin with and, in the end, despair.” – Pic Related If y'all have any questions about Christianity I'm happy to answer them or point you along to the answers (within reasonable time at least).
How do people actually enjoy life? I can't wait for it to end. It's strange how so many people are so afraid of death when this life is the worst possible thing that can happen to anyone.
>>44319833don't fall for these shills OP, be a true European (or at least white)
>>44314678>being in one's nature>natural>same in this conextbrainlet
>>44314629>live according to your nature and you will realize that death is also in your nature this is actually very well worded Anon, qutation-worthy
>>44319949>t. colossal faggot
>>44314299try some psychedelics mate they helped me alot with the death shit
>>44314299Get depressed as fuck and never fully recover, you'll never fear death again.werked for me :^)
>>44314299Humility. If i were to die today i would smile and thank (god/the universe) for getting to live for as long as i have.
I am Greek so I might be able to help hereWould you rather live forever? No, that would be horrible, at some point you would be tired of everything. You might say that you want to choose when to die but that means that you will still die and remain dead forever . And if you were to keep resurrecting and dying whenever you felt like it then you would still live forever. The only options are being alive forever or being dead forever, both are terrible but with death you won't be able to tell
>>44314299>How do you deal with death?1. kids, we are destined to leave our genes behind that's how we live forever2. regret is the worse, learn as much as you can and train as much as you can.3. Uchiha Madara method, find yourself a magic tree and shove its root up your ass.
>>44314333yes you would create a clone of yourself that would have the exact same memories as you, and would genuinely believe that it was successful. however YOU would die, the lights would shut off for you.
>>44314299I just hope life extension will be a thing in my life time.But with my luck its going to be available a day after i die.
>>44322879>Would you rather live forever? No, that would be horrible, at some point you would be tired of everythingYeah that's a shitty meme.Nobody ever gets tired of living.
>>44314299I tried to kill myself years ago and my mother stopped me just in time, I felt retarded and got help, but I still think about it, not killing myself, but just the fact that I'll cease to exist some day. I don't want to die no more, but I'm honestly not worried about the lack of afterlife or the process of death itself, and I've dedicated an autistic amount of time to the idea.My gf's stepsister works as a nurse with very old people. She says every single one of them seem to die not only in peace but kinda welcomed death. Probably not the same if you're 20 and get hit by a bus kek
>>44323046>suicide is number one cause of death for various demographic groups all around the developed worldfuck off christcuck
>>44314299Just hope for the best man. We don't know why or how our reality exists, so every hypothetical afterlife is just pointless speculation (including nonexistence).Pro tip: don't let yourself get old and frail. Volunteer at a hospice or an old-age home if you want to find out why.
>>44314969Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
>>44314629Genuinely curious anon. Why is hedonism (weed, sex, whatever) wrong if nothing matters and it doesn't affect anyone else? Seems like if there's no basis for absolute purpose or meaning (there doesn't seem to be), discounting those dopamine hits doesn't hold water. Atleast in the sense that it's subjective and just because you withhold instantly- gratifying, possibly harmful activity doesn't mean it's the wrong way to live. One could argue that the objective affects of hedonistic activity on an individual could prove to lessen their potential both physically and mentally, but you'd have to determine those affects to be "bad", which is subjective in this situation. Maybe a hedonist would absolutely despise physical and mental well-being, as they sometimes openly admit.
>>44314321You larpers really are pathetic, idolizing the aesthetic of a religion while doing everything it advises against.
>>44314299I used to be a pretty fucked up kid I guess. I would think about what would happen if my parents or siblings died. I would worry about who would take care of me or how I would never see them again. I dont know why I had those thoughts when I was only 7 or 8 but I remember crying to sleep over those worries.Ive never been sad or worried about my own mortality though. Ive build just a huge wall and constantly shut everyone out because I remember how much I hurt thinking about losing someone I cared about. I dont want to make anyone feel that way if I die. I have 0 friends. Im also not close to my family. As much I like and want to be alone, sometimes it gets lonely.Figure out why youre afraid to die. Is it because itll make people you love sad? Is it because you dont think youve lived a fulfilling life? If you figure out why you feel that way, you can make progress to get over death.
>>44321560Unironically this. After having my biggest breakthrough trip, I no longer feared death. As time has gone on the normalcy of everyday life has intruded with that acceptance for me. Deep down though, I know it's going to be okay.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK1BJkBJdtYAlan Watts and Eckhart Tolle are some readings/teachings I'd recommend. They basically have distilled various philosophies and religions to be more palatable. Eckhart moreso than Alan.
>>44314396Is there another reason I'm not aware of?
>>44314299There's an old sacred song by J.S. Bach called Komm, süßer Tod. Means Come, sweet Death. This may seem overly depressing in the present day, but back in 1700s Germany(the song was written in 1738), Death was a good thing. It wasn't "oh no, we're going to die!", it was "Don't worry. You'll die soon, this will all be over!" This may not directly apply to our present day situation, where life is longer and more comfortable, but I think there is a positive message to take from it. We are all going to die. We can't control it. Look at it from the other side, imagine if we lived forever? Would you get as much done? I think it's comforting to know I will die, it places a limit on my life and a framework to fit my entire life in. I don't want to die, but if I do then i'll be dead and that's that. I won't care since i'm dead.
>>44328071>Eckhart moreso than Alan>links Alan
>>44329037It was applicable to the thread. Still, here you go buddehhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxLYbmD7bPs
>>44314696There was a time people couldn't control whether the sun shines on them or the rain falls down on their heads. So they invented hats, indoor areas, and eventually electric lighting.If there is something we can't control, we figure out a way to control it. Its the only thing that fundamentally makes us different from the animals. This fatalism of yours is unbecoming.
>>44329111appreciate it brother
>>44329111kek blessed this post
>>44315080This. People don't fucking realize this. Life isn't always the way you live it now. When you're young, dying looks like an unbearable tragedy. But as you age it almost becomes a burden, you become tired with it. It's true that people age very differently, but I read that death anxiety peaks in young adults and then gradually lowers as we age. I reckon it's because life become more of a chore, you experimented many things, you've seen through your initial illusions, you're permitted a clarity that young people don't have.
>>44314299WE ARE NOT ALL HUMAN YOU FUCKWIT
>>44314299Read meditations by aurelius he kinda make you want to die
>>44314333Checked,I'm really tired of riding my hoverboard, it's been already 3 years since it was out.. can't wait for this
I think that my fear of death made my life a lot worse that it could be. It was not really fear of death, I was just expecting it to come a lot earlier. I'm sick and I saw few people with my condition die their twenties and those who were alive were skinny and spending months in hospital.So I thought that's gonna happen to me too and I just gave up. I quit school and all i did was play video games and go to gym, and I think gym actually saved me. Now that I woke up from that state of mind I didn't have proper education and am stuck in a job that i don't like. I'm trying to change things but it looks so hard, I'm 28 now and I look nothing like people i saw when i was younger, I guess my sickness is not as bad as theirs, but now I have a lot of regrets and I hope I can do something to change my life so I can live happily to the end.
>>44314299that's why we lift anonso one day we can fight death head onim gonna punch that skelly fuck so hard, then bully him for being a dyel then fuck his gf in front of himafter that I'll offer him some whey and ask if he wants to join me in getting hugethen me and his undead ass will cruse for puss for all eternity
>>44329245We're all going to make it
>>44314557This is good advice desu
>>44314299>How do you deal with death?I don't, it's a thought that has been fucking me over so much over the past six months that I am a human wreck.While being a religious person there's zero guarantee that the stuff I believe in is the truth. Us being some irrelevant wonder in the depth of the universe merely existing for a milisecond compared to the grand sheme is also an option.I can't even understand people who just say enjoy life and don't think much about it. What then? Be 80 year old with the cruel thoughts of dying and just being done for? Atleast it's a fate we all have to suffer. Being reunited with all of our ancestory and every big and irrelevant human ever to exist.
Also, nobody of you knows what true terror is.>Be me>Havin existencial crysis once again>Fall asleep some night>Dream about dying and being trapped in a DMT caused Dream (as apparently that's what happens when you die)>Become concious of the dream>Having to cope with the knowledge of slowly drifting into death without ever seeing your family ever againThat was the only time I ever woke up crying from a dream
Accepting Christ and fighting back the Jewish/Muslim tide of invaders
>>44314334Take this upboat my enlightened friend
>>How do you deal with death?Easy. I accept it. I'm going to die. In my 80s, or maybe 60s, or maybe just tomorrow. Will I lament shit? Of course. Will I regret doing something? Of course too. I will cry. I will be angry. But I will face the fucker with my chin high.But until then, I will do the best to provide for myself and my family. So I establish goals for me. Lift because I want to be healthy and confident. Me liking jogging and lifting is a bonus, so I roll with it. Get a good>gfmarry, have kids (2 or 3), and the most important thing of all, live a good life, because it WILL end. WHEN I die, I want to leave a legacy that will stand the test of time. Maybe I will succeed, or fail, but it doesn't really matter.
>you will never be the age you are right now, againlive brah, the universe is made cognizant of itself through you, literally made of stardust, the top of the food chain on the one good planet in a sea of endless space and timebeing srs, brah, we're all gonna make it, I know you will
I used to have a massive folder as to why philosophical materialism is a pleb tier belief system but I lost it when I changed phones. The real takeaway though is that there's plenty of theories rooted in science as to why consciousness may continue. If you're of the Christian persuasion I suggest listening to Dr John Lennox, professor of pure mathematics at Oxford and prominent Christian apologist or if your into something more experimental and statistical check out Dr Ian Stevenson & Jim Tucker from UVAs work on children who report 'past lives'. Either way once you die there is either an afterlife or there isn't.If there is: Don't worryIf there isn't: You can't worryWe're all in this together anon, now go to the fucking gym and get /fit/ already
>>44330224>being trapped in a DMT caused Dream (as apparently that's what happens when you die)Source? I think it's just your anxiety attack induced thoughts. Death isn't actually that traumatic i reckon. It's a state of lack of consciousness. I had panic attacks like this and during them I needed to call my parents to calm down. I stopped having them since I smoke weed and realized I was the one creating the dreadful fantasy, and that death is not what I imagined
>>44314860>Malcolm X>not proud of his race
>>44326477fuck off sith scum
>>44314860Eh, you tried. Here’s a (You)