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Is your line of work lining up with the characteristics of a Chad? Do you use your gains in the work environment? I am a firefighter/EMT and I think that is pretty far up on the chad-o-meter.
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>>44326431
Crop duster here, fangin along at 300kmh at 10 feet goes alright
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>>44326431
I was a Muhreen or, as I like to call it, a Mercenary for Obama but now I'm training to be a Welder
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Forestry firefighter. Its easy af to pick up chicks to begin with bc 6'2 and good face but when they hear what my job is? Its over. Hard as fuck work and semi dangerous but overall its the best job Ive had. Would recommend if you like hiking
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>>44326431
>firefighter
Great, youve mastered a skill that rain has made obsolete
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Was a space muhreens, commercial fished in Alaska for years, fly helicopters now. Wooosh.
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Scientist. So much gains are only helpful sometimes
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>>44326447
>>44326466
>>44327004
>>44327036

Lmao peasants
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The ultimate chad career is finance, especially I-banking

t. the business school where I go to college is 40% finance majors and they all dress like this
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>>44327119
Chad doesn't dress like a fag.
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>>44327119
If your 'business school' has an undergraduate college then you go to a pleb school. (With the sole exception of Wharton). I-Banks would sooner recruit an English major from Yale than a finance major from Pleb State U.
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I don’t know ceo maybe? I personally want to be in the special forces and there are no chads there
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Corrections Officer here, not the most Chad job but the gainz do come in handy when breaking up the occasional fight.
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>>44326447
how'd you get that career I want in.
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Northsea fisherman in winter and boat operator tour guide in summer sometimes.

Longline fishing on a small boat in a remote place waking up at weird times working long hours kills gains.

Tour guide in a remote place with long hours in freezing temperatures having active conversations all day long with a bunch of tourists also kills gains.

Although if I'm being honest with myself I think it's the constant alcohol abuse and partying that's really actually killing my gains.
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>>44326431
Paleontologist. I'm doing research regarding dinosaur teeth at the moment. Impresses the qts every time. Pic related the inspiration for indiana jones
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>>44326431
Engineer is the only answer
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>>44327488
Dream life, minus having to talk with tourist imbecils. Mirin' dubs btw
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>>44327563
I didn't know Ross Geller posted on /fit/
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>>44326431
4chan moderator, i bet they get all the pussy
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I just make money off a bunch of Shopify sites that ship cheap Chinese products to the US
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>>44327119
fucking weird, i'm in business school and everybody dresses like they just rolled out of bed
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>>44327004
I’d like to become one, what’s the best way to go about doing it and how long does it take? Currently working on my EMT-B
>>44326431
I may want to pursue structural later on. How hard is it to become one? I’ve heard both types are very competitive, and can take literal years to get hired on somewhere.
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>>44327440
>there are no chads there
Literally what
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>>44327384
I go to Notre Dame. Our business school is consistently ranked above Wharton lol
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>>44327722
No it isnt
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trades.
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I work for one of the big 4 UK banks in a senior management role for trade and open account. Can confirm I've had plenty of pussy in my years there, made easier by the fact most people don't lift. However lifting isn't one of the approved "rich" sports that get you in the club with the boys, so make sure you cycle, golf, tennis or w.e too - even badly. It's a perception thing.
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MD/Dentist/Vet
>Loves his meaningful work, skilled hands, empathic, mad dosh. Looks hot in scrubs or lab coat.
Trades
>Loves his meaningful work, skilled hands, hot sweaty body hardened by physical work.
FInance/Business/Actuary
>Loves his meaningful work, mad dosh, looks hot in suit and wiping his face with $$$.
Software developer
>Loves his meaningful work, hangs with the popular nerd crowd, mad dosh, looks hot all burried in his code.
Academia
>Loves his meaningful work, really smart, his science will change the world, looks hot in lab coat.
Ask yourself: Do you love your work? Make money? Are you hot? If you answered to all three questions YES!, welcome to the Chad club.
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>>44327703
See what companys in your area are hiring for the season and send in an app on the website. No requirements except be in good shape, pay is ok and you get tons of hours. If you like hiking and dont mind hardwork I recommend you try a season (4-6 months normaly).
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>>44328162
Also we in the Rocky mountains start getting hired around march. Its wise to start cardio and hiking more to train, even if you are in shape.
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>>44327659
the paper was on
sediment
flow
rate
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The only Chad profession is white collar criminal.
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>>44328191
I’m in Colorado. Once you’re on, are you on? Any companies you’d recommend?
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>>44329736
With wildland, anyways? Until you’re 35 or you get a permanent position? How hard would you say is it to get a permanent position? I’d like to make firefighting my career, and use my degree more as a back up.
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>>44326431
Male pornstar is the most Chad, specifically public only actors.
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>>44330060
My pornstar name would be Chad Thundercock.
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>>44326431
I’m a mechanical engineer (student) may be considered Chad if I get a job working at a cool place... otherwise it’s just a semi Chad salary and not actual job
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>>44327603

My nigga
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>>44330219
You need to become an engineer for hammer strength or something.
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Boilermaker welder here
Chad/10
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>>44328112
I'm not in the chad club right now, i've done everything from software to working in a dump. I want back in.
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>>44330239
>>44327603
why do engineers always suck each others dick so openly? anyone else notice this? All of the engineers I meet irl are top tier redditors.
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>>44330287
how hard is it to get into welding? is it still in demand? will robots make you obsolete?
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>>44330322
Shy people relate to shy people. It's a major that attracts introverts. As a former introvert, I find it very easy to communicate with autists, as I was once one. Helps with work.
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>>44326431
Is being a cop that works by the beach Chad? Considering it myself. I've always wanted a job where I'm paid to protect people. It makes me feel like a hero. The thought of dying for someone else ironically makes me feel alive. Anyone else?
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Lawyer
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>>44330360
It’s not as glamorous as it seems. The majority of calls will either be public intoxication, shop lifting, or domestic violence (those can turn ugly, fast). You will be spit on, called every name in the book, and generally disrespected by everyone other than LARPers and other cops. But then they’ll still expect you to treat them with respect because “I pay your salary bro”, and to come running to some shit bags aid not 5 minutes after he just told you to go fuck yourself while he acts all pompous towards you. You’ll get someone from every walk of life, and you’ll get every varying degree of people from “sovereign citizens” to the Yale grad who knows the DA, and will get off the hook while making you look bad because you caught him snorting coke out of a strippers ass. If you can live with that, along with some of the nastiest shit (literally and figuratively) you’ll ever see, then it’s the job for you.
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>>44326431
2017 Geology grad here with a 2:1 (UK grade)

>graduated last summer, it's now been 6 months of unemployment.

On the upside, I got my first real interview in 2 weeks time. Hope it all goes well, I really do.

I am now actively applying for local jobs, to get some money into the bank unitil I get a proper job.

Anyone, got any advice? I am feeling pretty down righ now.
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Air traffic controller.

Most guys I work with are either Chad or military nerds.
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>>44330543
Wear a suit made entirely out of rocks to exhibit not only how strong you are, but also about how serious you are when it comes to the subject matter.
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>>44330671
>>44330543
Also good luck on the interview
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>>44330322

Getting an engineering degree is pretty difficult so to meet someone what did the same thing is cool. Really not that complicated... maybe it takes an engineering degree to figure out
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>>44327021
This. You fuckers have no purpose on my earth, whenever there is a fire in my town, I just do a rain dance. Can't believe we still pay taxes for you.
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>>44330702
Laser Engineer here (Major in Physics, minor in Electrical Engineering). Everyone I’ve met so far that’s an engineer, or even the ones in my classes, were so socially inept that my brain bled talking to them. You will find the MOST autistic people in these fields, especially in the more math heavy careers.
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>>44330751
I just spit on it. Fuck waiting fo the rain gods to do shit when Mother Earth gave me the perfect tools to do it myself.
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>>44327603
Maybe 1% of them. All others are beta.
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>engineer
>banker
>thinking these soyboy jobs are chad jobs

Listen you guys make great money and are definitely set up to have 2.5 kids and a wife who never fucks you.

But no chick has ever gotten soaked from hearing about that big data analysis you just finished up on. You guys sit in a cube and are in charge of maybe 1 or 2 other people.

Not a chad job.

Chicks fantasize about fireman, lumber jacks, Military guys, and actors etc.
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>>44330840
and surgeons for whatever reason
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>>44330931
Surgeons save lives, breh. It’s all about how the job sounds, not how it is. They don’t care if you do vasectomies or if you’re in the ICU, it’s all about the title.
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on the back of a garbage truck. def not chad, but maybe a brad job?
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>>44330702
>>44330342
Sounds legit, it just seems more pronounced
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>>44330982
Brad’s the one driving who’ll weasel his way into being a district managers somehow.
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>>44327119
Finance here, talking about other people's money all day while you make 43k gross and less than 30k take home blows ass. Though I got my BA in history and it's entry level work, it's fucked. Looking for a new job this weekend.
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>>44326431
>Not Fire Medic
Sucks anyway, I just wanna fight fire. But at least Im way cooler than these EMT scrubs
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>>44327004
Never thought hiking was difficult until I did some wild land stuff. Got some respect for those mountain bunnies.
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>>44326431
you don't get much more chad than a mathematician
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>>44327703
Wildland is pretty easy to start in. Structure will be very difficult. Where do you live, location matters. So Cal is probably the best place for firefighting right now.
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>>44331372
I’m in Colorado, Denver/Aurora area. I refuse to live in California, as I’m a staunch believer in my second amendment rights. Is Nevada in need or other surrounding areas? And if I do get hired on in wildland, am I guaranteed a spot the following season or do I have to reapply? And how hard is it to make it into a permanent position? This is something that I think I’d like to make a career. I’d like to work as a fire line medic, too if that helps.
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>>44327683
This
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>>44326431
I work with a lovely and extremely beautiful woman who has MS, she prefers being carried at all times when we're indoors, hates the wheelchair.
I remember the first time she asked me if I could carry her
"Don't get me wrong now, it makes me feel more normal like it's in a romantic way, even though I know it's not."
That became the reason I started lifting again and stopped my anorexic bullshit attitude as well, sometimes someone else's well being becomes the motivation for you to improve your own health
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>>44331428
None of that “I am the sheepdog” bullshit, but it’s something I’ve grown up around my whole life, and I own a bunch that mean a lot to me, but aren’t California compliant. I’m not comfortable selling/butchering family heirlooms to be California compliant.
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>>44331215
History major Brah here too. I’m in insurance and compared to the physical labor jobs I had when I was younger, I feel like I’m getting paid for doing nothing. I’m the only person in the 150-person company I work for who is above 6’ and lifts but all the grills are fat slobs so I’m king of the garbage dump.
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>>44331534
Do you have to fight off little green men in garbage cans that do nothing but mope and get in your way?
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>>44331677

There’s only one person who looks green but I think they have a vitamin defeciency.
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>>44327297
Unkempt mongrel detected
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>>44326431
>Command + F
>"physician" not found

Are you fags even trying? Nothing more chad than saving lives with an advanced scientific understanding at 300k a year.
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Pilot in the USAF. It's one of the most Chad jobs that I can think of. You get paid well, you get to travel the world, do bad ass shit, and everyone you work with is a Chad in their own right.

Does it matter? Not really. You're gone most of the year, and you typically live in shit holes.

Military towns are strange as hell. The gender ratio is super out of whack, so you'll find gigachads that are walking around with frumpy hobbits. Most Air Force bases are in small town shitholes.
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>>44331782
If looking at sclerosed veins on penises and sever cases of toe fungus are Chad, I’m not sure if I want to be one.
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>>44331822
I helped cut open an 18 yr old kid's sack to surgically correct testicular torsion last week. Nothing will make you feel more alive than seeing a live human testicle out on an operating table.
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>>44330543
thought about looking abroad pal?
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>>44331871
EMT here, how about seeing a dead one? Some guy tried to jump a spiked fence the other day, ripped his sack and landed on the dangling restocked HARD. Was smooshed to literal pieces when I got there. The kid loves though, so there’s that.
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>>44331985
*testicle, not restocked.
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>>44332005
>>44331985
*Lived. Fuck IOS. I guess he does love too though, but only half as much now.
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>>44332016
>Only half as much
Kek
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>>44330543
Any oil company would be glad to hire you on, aside from off shore rigs.
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>>44331985
Is it possible to volunteer as an emt without being certified?
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>>44327603
>>44330801
The only chad engineering is Aerospace Engineering,the rest is trash
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>>44332077
No. You need at minimum an EMT-B. If you do get on somewhere without one, then you need to be prepared for legal ramifications if anything comes up and your qualifications are looked at.
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>>44332081
Even then, they aren’t even that Chad.
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>male nurse
Chad af
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>>44332462
Slaying puss while saving puss.
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>>44330360
Being a ZOGbot is not Chad
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>>44332462
>male nurse
>chad
Kek'd. Murse is so beta

Football/hockey players are obvious chads. Any popular sports is good, really
>fame
>money
>fitness

Nothing beats that.
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>>44331801
Marines pilots are better, if two guys are the exact same but ones in the marines and ones in the AF, the woman will automatically pick the marine
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>>44332652
I have a friend that is a nurse, gets laid pretty regularly apparently.
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>>44332682
No shit, as a male nurse 99% of your coworkers are sluts
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>>44332682
Anyone can get laid 'pretty regularly'. Bartender living on petty tips can get laid every night. Gym coach in his 40s who never achieved anything noteworthy can get laid every night. Being Chad is not just about getting laid
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Actor
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>>44327756
In undergrad business school rankings, ND is consistently number 1 or number 2 in the country

For MBA programs, Wharton is probably better, but I was talking about undergrad. Should have specified that
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unemployed
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>>44330360
I'm a SDPD officer. Most of what>>44330437 says is true. The only thing that makes me stay are the moments of IRL comedy that happens on the job. There's a lot of wackjobs out there and dealing with them makes you feel like a character in Reno 911!

I fucking love my job
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>>44327722
Ha ha. Keep telling yourself that. There isn't a firm in existence that'd rather have a ND alum than a Wharton alum.
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Airborne Infantry Company XO.
I workout so I don't die from the long hours doing fucking paperwork.
Exercises can be pretty demanding too, so my workouts help me perform there too.
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HVAC tech. Women pay me to come in to their house and fix their shit while they bitch to me that their man is so lazy, doesn't know how to do it, plays xbox all day, doesn't fuck her anymore, etc.

Doesn't get more chad than that
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Competitive Intelligence analyst. First job out of college. 72k.


But I'm a girl so... What's a female Chad?
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>>44333111

a Stacy.
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>>44330780
ME here.

The difference between engineering fields' respective levels of autism is staggering.

Of the major fields, about 75%ol of the people in them are
>civil - wish they were smart, are not, act like the are. Often children of rich parents who were coddled a little too much
>mechanical - the most normal bunch, with its fair share of aspies. The best engineering discipline for rednecks
>chemical - deep-seated, nearly crippling social issues. Inability to relate to normies.
>electrical - mostly fine, smarter than MEs but not usually pricks, not as fucked as ChemE
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>>44333129
Thank you!

I'd actually argue then the most 'stacy' career is then marketing usually. Or sales(probably for Chad's too)
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>>44330702
>engineering is hard

I was doing engineering and everyone was socially inept but at the same time kinda dumb, only a few autists were not brainlets. People really just don't take time to learn the stuff and then think it's hard.
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CEO of an agri-tech company.

Most of my job is talking to lawyers, developers and veterinarians but those things are all made easy by being a confident, outgoing, in-shape motherfucker who is comfortable in any situation and charming as fuck.

I could be a fatass and do my job, I suppose, but looking good means I'm feeling good and when I'm feeling good I perform at a higher level.

People crave leadership and they want to feel like they are part of a winning team. I think humans naturally gravitate to the good looking, confident man when they search for leadership. To me, fitness and a positive image of myself is just as important an ingredient in my success as industry experience, dealmaking and attention to detail.
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Starting as a technical consultant for the tech consulting firm in america. Also had an offer from big 4 but I wanted to go more software than management. Starting 75k + overtime

Am I making it?
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>>44327004
sup bro

>tfw went out with a contractor last season
>tfw really enjoyed it
>tfw tryna get a gov't job and a saw card for the 2018 season
>tfw possible running injuries
>tfw shitty school schedule
>tfw slightly older than your usual rookie at 25

reeeeeeee
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tree planter

core of steel
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Army SF. I don't see it as being a Chad job.
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>>44333272
Eh consulting is good, tech consulting is eh, big 4 is good
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>>44330840
You have no idea what an investment banker does do you lol

>big data

Kek
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>>44330780
Petroleum engineers are socially adept assholes
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>>44326431

Commercial risk analyst

The old women in the office seriously love asking me to pick heavy things up for them. It was funny at first but now it's like I have to get shit done please stop.
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>>44331215
Wrong finance. Investment banking, PE/HF/AM are the only good ones more or less. Trading is for meatheads.
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>>44333355
why do you not thinking Army SF is a chad job, chad?
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>>44333463
The amount of chads in petro/mining engineering isnt surprising when you consider how masculine that area of study is
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>>44333509
are you implying that quants or manual traders are meatheads or both?
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>>44333355
special forces is chad tier brah
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I do Homer Simpson's job and get 120k per year on my apprenticeship. No wonder he could afford a house, 3 kids, and a stay at home wife
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everyone on /fit/ is either an engineer, in software, a doctor, lawyer, investment banker, or some other high salaried high intelligence job, making a minimum of 100k a year no matter if they live in new york city, london, san francisco, or rural alabama
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Car Sales master race reporting
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>in college and have no idea what to do
>only first year
>liberal arts school

I can still make it, right?
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im a NEET I never leave mommy's basement and unironically am a virgin who eats chicken tendies desu
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>>44331479
>this whole story

What
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>>44332789
McCombs undergrad here. I expected us to have a good internship rank lmao
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>>44330375
surprised nobody else said this
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>>44333632
Yea if it’s a NE liberal arts just find the old money network and get an investment banking job through networking
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>>44333552
Manual traders are meatheads, quants are fucking nerds but I respect them because that’s the future for sure, especially in the HF space
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>>44333718
It's Midwest.
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>>44333632
holy shit DROP OUT AND WORK. SAVE!
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>>44333632
Just do CS, engineering or business and plug into the Matrix style cube farm.

You’ll make 80k a year and be able to retire an empty husk of a person by 65.

Truly the American dream.
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>>44333404
“Oh tell me about your bar graphs daddy they get me so wet”

Said no chick ever.

Girls hangout with white collar types because they have money and cocaine. Not because they’re chad Alpha males.
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>>44333632
Yes. You just need to network. Try to go to conferences where you meet companies through professional networks (they usually have student discounts). Get an internship, try to find alumni on LinkedIn and ask them about what they do
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>>44327457
basically you're in jail for 1/3 of your day did you ever think of this?
>in jail
>can't do whatever you want
>basically an inmate
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>>44333734
Well doesn’t matter you’re young enough to get an IB job which is without a doubt the easiest surefire way to get rich with no risk associated

>>44333763
You don’t talk about work with women... you can do that over there, and I’ll be here with my IB job
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>>44333763
Whoa whoa whoa I love bar graphs and someone who knows who to analyze data for more than just surface level stats. I'm a girl.
My boyfriend has had to stop me from talking about the data analysis I do sometimes though because I guess it can get to be a little much. But I really enjoy learning how to be a better analyst and doing regressions and making stuff...
I really don't think it's that bad. If the girl doesn't like what you do, then that's their problem?
>Inb4 grill tits or gtfo
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>>44333782
Buddy, you just described working for most people.
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>>44326431
>public sector
>chad job
Oh I'm laffin. How about you contribute to the economy instead of bleeding from it asshole?
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>>44330543
You an engineering geologist? I am a geotechnical engineer with 5 years experience also with a 2:1. I am thinking at moving to London from NZ, how easy do you think I could find a job.
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>>44330437
>>44332816
Surprise, surprise, people who break laws are pieces of shit. I respect you guys for doing jobs that dealing with shitbag people everyday.
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>>44327119
Ya just want to let you know that these guys all saw the Wolf of Wall Street once and think they're going to make it in banking or on the stock markets.
If you really want to make it in finance these days you need a math/compsci/physics/stats degree. Look at all the biggest hedge funds (Two Sigma, Renaissance) they are full of nerdy geniuses, not dudebro frat-tier idiots
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>>44333317
how did you get that job?
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>>44333884
You have a limited knowledge of NYC finance. You start by going to an elite college or a NE liberal arts with strong roots. From there you work at a top bank for 2 years unless you were one of the lucky ones to go straight to PE (BainCap hired from Dartmouth, some HFs hire from Wharton). For the most part, you get hit up by a headhunter six months in for PE/HF roles. Headhunters are Glocap, CPI, Oxbridge, etc.

I can go on... but this is the type of shit I talk about on WSO, not here.
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>>44333884
Your example is somewhat true, but that is a small fraction of HFs. I don’t know as much about HFs (I work in PE) but what you said would be true of quant or algorithmic firms. The specific skill set you need to know is stochastic calculus. That is not true of an emerging markets HF, for example.
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>>44333935
I understand that the talentless tradional investment banking world is full of kiss ass old boys from the Ivies but the world of hedge funds is increasingly nerdy.
Either way a retard from a state school isn't going to make it
>NYC Finance
Ya, the kind of "finance" that rapes our economy every 8-12 years

Also, tell me more anon. How do you know the finance world so well?
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>>44333973
I work in private equity after 2 years in consulting. I worked at Bain in the private equity group rotation and then through headhunter placement made the move.
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>>44333317
How much does that pay?
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>>44333989
Impressive.
I'm a little confused what's the difference between PE and HFs?
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>Mfw people kill themselves with 80 hour weeks in IB to make 80k when I do 45 hour weeks in tech finance and make 80k
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>>44333355
(You)
Are you really SF, can we have proof?
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>>44326431
>medical student
>all female medical students are getting baby fever when they see their college friends all married with kids already. They're scared once they start residency they will end up 40 and childless.
>PA/nursing students all dream about landing a MD husband so they don't actually have to work
>Change rotations every couple months, new nurses, PAs, residents to pork
>MILFs try to set up their daughter with you

>on call room has adjustable dumbbells so you can get a pump and BJ at the same time
>show your gains and dick off through your comfy scrubs
>free gym and food at hospital

>Rx yourself testosterone (pic related)
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>>44334067
oh yeah (another doctor on /fit/), a constant new stream of nurses and PAs and resdients to fuck, eh stud? and then the MILFs who you fuck want you to fuck their hot daughters at the same time huh?
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>>44334025
Hedge funds invest in publicly traded securities (this does not include the funds that are outliers with some private investments)

Private equity for the most part includes buyout funds. A private equity firm buys a company outright by either taking a public company off the publicly traded markets by purchasing all outstanding shares, or by buying a private company from the owner(s)

>>44334038
$220k pre bonus, but ok ;)
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>>44327384
>If your 'business school' has an undergraduate college then you go to a pleb school

Having absolutely no intellectual foundation and saying schools like Berkeley Haas or NYU Stern don't produce (approx) just as many successful I-Bankers, Consultants, and Entrepreneurs as Wharton
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>>44334038
Though I am writing this from work so I guess your point stands :/
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>>44334125
If your program offers an accounting major, pleb school (looking at you Stern)
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>>44334119
220k base, is that a director level, or at least senior VP right?
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>>44334006
I applied via e-mail when I was 20, been doing it every spring/summer since.
its piece rate, 10 cents per tree. so 2000 trees=200$
I average 300$ and it opens doors to other forestry work.
its simple manual labor when it comes down to it but its good to make money innawoods.

heres a useful link.
http://hardcoretreeplanters.com/treeplanting-companies/
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>>44329736
Hey, yea once your on you have a very very high chance of being on perm but everyone needs to pass the fitness test every year, I work with a company called grayback forestry but they are based mostly in oregon so I can't give you much in the way of company's I recomend :/ maybe if you search "Colorado forestry firefighter" or something you can find a company and then look at past employee reviews.
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>>44334240
>grayback forestry

ayyy >>44333298 was out of merlin + with one of the la grande hand crews, you?
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>>44329769
Most managers or base bosses at my base get there by seniority and not by skill or knowledge unfortunately so its hard to tell. Raises are given after your first season usually but as far as being promoted to team leader or any manager position I'm not completely sure. All I was able to gather is it is all about how long you have worked there. As a normal job crew member though I make 16 an hour and after last season I had a cool 22 grand in the bank.(4 months) Meals are provided and transport to job sites is too. So living expenses are non existent really. Hope this helps and good luck bro, its going to be hard work but you got this.
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>>44327119
rev up those guillotines
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There's a lot of fucking misinformation here about high finance careers.

1. If your undergraduate institution offers a degree in business, it's a subpar degree and likely subpar school. To wit, that's why Stanford offers its students Management Science and Engineering in lieu of "Business".

2. Bulge bracket banks tend to only recruit from highly ranked schools. You busting your ass at Podunk State is likely only going to land you a position at Deloitte or EY if you're lucky, not Goldman or Credit Suisse. Not to say that that's a bad thing, but you're not going to be living the bottles and models lifestyle.

3. Goldman slashed analyst pay back in like 2011 to about 90k, with a bonus typically ranging in the 20-40k range, and all other banks followed suit. That means that you're going to be making a shade over 100k to live in Manhattan, and you're going to be expected to comp drinks and meals for your MDs. All of this amounts to you not making much take-home for your first few years.

4. After putting in 80 hour weeks (or more when deal flow is high) for a few years, you have a good shot at an associate position. This is likely going to represent a doubling of your salary, except your lifestyle is still going to suck dick.

5. The gravy train only really starts at the MD or VP level, and even then, still includes substantial lifestyle sacrifices. These positions are not guaranteed, even if you bust your ass as an analyst/associate. That's why every junior schmo is always putting in 14 hour days at these firms, so they look better for that eventual promotion.

There's a reason why everybody wants to know about exit opportunities from ibanking to private equity or venture cap or what have you. The lifestyle sucks, and being a powerpoint/excel jockey for years on end is not fun.

t. Guy who worked a front office position at JPMC in Manhattan, then at KKR on Sand Hill, and now am involved in VC shit.
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>>44334219
That’s VP level, I will likely try to exit to VC before I get anywhere remotely close to MD
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>>44334354
Other finance guy in the thread. This... is all correct. KKR. Holy fuck. What group?
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>>44334354
Wait were you in KKR TMT?
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Being Chad doesnt have to have a lot to do with his job. It is not that you can become the Chad if you just want to or anything like that. Rather, the difference is in the mindset. You can look goofy when dancing in a club but it's your mindset, especially how much you care about others' opinion, that matters.

If a beta virgin went to a club and started dancing autistically it could be a disaster. But a Chad could also be dancing autistically with other people laughing at him. Chad, however, doesn't care not because he is Chad but rather because he knows that ultimately he will probably never see those people again and if he's having a good time then it's all right. Of course IF having a good time all by himself is what the chad went there for.

When we say that Chad doesn't need to pick up chicks because they flock to him it's not about faking lack of interest. It's about having your own thing going on and knowing that people come and go. If it works out then great. If it doesn't? Shame but that's the way the world is.
Moving on when ignored is not about faking anything or pretending not to care when people dump you, shoot you down or laugh at you. It's about knowing that people you meet now are not the only people you'll ever meet just like they aren't the people you have met so far.
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holy shit i thought everyone on fit was just a wealthy software engineer. now it turns out the other half of the board all work in the biggest investment banks in the world making six figures as well

crazy
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>>44333298
Bruh we had some old rookies last season so dont sweat it, just be ready to work hard af and hiking like crazy. 25 is almost prime material so dw man
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>>44334310
Was with John day base, good to see a fellow Grayback employee on here. How is your management by the way?
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>>44334368
>>44334383
I worked in the Healthcare group at KKR, and am still involved in emerging medical devices now.
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>>44326431
Accountant, reporting in. Don't use my physical gainz in my work life, just my fiscal gainz.
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>>44334354
all pretty accurate except #1

an undergraduate institution can offer a degree in business and still be extremely prestigious. just because Stanford offers Mgmt. Science and Eng. instead of a undergraduate biz degree doesn't mean the quality of education is mutually exclusive to all schools that do (but only certain ones). saying all biz schools with an undergraduate program provide a low level of education and job opportunities is pure ignorance
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>>44332462
2 years into murse school. There are some chad positions out there but 90% of them seems pretty damn beta.
Gonna have to compensate by hitting my wife if i dont land a chad position.
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>>44334473
Well, when I was at JPMC, essentially everyone in my group (and really my office) was your typical CHYMPS grad, with the exception of one guy, who was from Ohio State. The Ohio State guy did Math and Econ, and really had to prove that he belonged (which, to his credit, he did). All I'm saying is that if I were attending a non-target school, and I really wanted to work in high finance, I'm not going to be doing undergrad Business (which, really, at the undergraduate level, is almost tantamount to Sociology). I'd be doing Math or Physics, and I'd probably also be sucking professorial dick so I can do some research and get a paper out before I graduated.
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>>44334224
thanks brother
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>>44334578
Friend of mine works in ECM at CS from a finance major at Alabama. She really had to prove herself similarly.
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>>44328112
I'm an equine veterinarian. Girls love horses but the money is no where near as good as if I was an MD.
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>>44334578
yeah I get your point about the non-target school stuff and how hard it is to make it into really any super competitive biz jobs... so completing a degree in something more quant is pretty much the only way out. I graduated from a CHYMPS school and still found it pretty competitive to start my career in consulting around the bay area just bc there are so many fucking smart and motivated ppl here
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TL rated safe tech. Paid to penetrate.
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>>44334067
>>44334110
>>44334474

How do you meet qt nurses besides ending up in a hospital bed? Most of them are hot, and the gender ratio is all out of whack so I know they're having a hard time meeting dudes because...

My work place is 90% male and I know that feel. Milfag pilot btw.
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>>44334067
Lmao I don't know where you go, but all the girls at my school are in relationships. And the nursing students never hang out with the med students despite us being on the same campus. Also telling people you're a med student doesn't impress anyone anymore, from my experience anyway, usually they just express pity on how much school I have left.
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>>44333884
I do this. Pull 6 figures in my twenties. Still no gf.
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>>44326431
I'm in law enforcement, not the donut munching kind
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>>44334778
Do what? Work at an algorithmic hedge fund?
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>>44334726
That's why we live here. (This is not the finance guy.)
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>>44334395
thx bro

>>44334422
I personally felt a bit screwed out of fire assignments--the rest of the guys in my training class got on fires quite a while before I did. I was there long enough for four 14-day tours plus change and I only got 2 and lots of project work. Having said that, I might have just gotten unlucky. Also issued gear is shittier than at the other bases (Thielssen instead of MR, only 1 set of Nomex). On the other hand, everyone seemed reasonably competent and well-intentioned.

Looking to go out with John Day this season if it doesn't work out with the Feds--base housing would make things a lot more convenient for me.
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>>44334910
>-the rest of the guys in my training class got on fires quite a while before I did
and it's not like I was a lazy jackoff or a dumbass or not showing up for project work or anything like that, to clarify.
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>>44334821
Yeah, the good side of this job is I dont have much time for myself to be depressed during the week. But the weekends on 4chan feel very long...
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>>44335000
How's the pay and what did you study?
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I'm a software engineer in a top Forbes rated company making $300k a year plus benefits and I also do neurosurgery on the side. AMA
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>>44327703
Local fire academy is 8 weeks and you get your Fire 1&2
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>>44331319
Currently working on my Paramedic, it’s a bitch 1200 hours isn’t fun
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>>44335208
The fucked up thing is that high performing software engineers here in SV can make considerably more than that. I made about 350k in 2017 as an Engineering Director and my background isn't even in Engineering.

Bear in mind, given the prices of homes here this is a middle class existence. Director level people at Google/FB can make double what I do.
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>>44335251
Nice. Being a 30 year old with no education and job experience (uni dropout) makes me want to KYS. Jesus Christ.
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>>44335286
I got my start in the tech industry at age 30. I'm 37 now. Worked my ass off, did squats/deadlifts to relieve the stress.
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>>44332077
absolutely not. Plus, you wouldn't want to do this job anyway without knowing what you're doing.

>>44332097
As he said, EMT-B at minimum, but there's no reason not to go all the way to nationally registered Paramedic if it's something you want to do for real.
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>>44335308
Oh. And more: my undergrad degree is in HISTORY.
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>>44335286

Just go on /fit/ and tell people you make 350K a year as an Engineering Director.
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>>44335308
>>44335323
That makes me mad jelly and gives me hope. Good job, anon, and thanks.
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>>44335388
Cool. I don't often reflect, but it is worth mentioning that I have a history of wanting to kill myself. Got 16 rounds of ECT (shock therapy) at 22; relapsed months later. Tried rTMS (magnets); no effect. Lifting helped.
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I'm surprised not many people know about rotor medics.

https://www.ems1.com/ems-education/articles/147409048-How-to-become-a-flight-paramedic/
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>>44334910
It seems you kinda just got shafted big time man, that or you pissed of/was seen doing shit wrong by the wrong person maybe? Ive seen dudes get shafted for just not standing out or keeping to themselfs. It happend to a crew member bc he pissed in the black lmao, no one wanted him for the rest of the season
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>>44334817
Care to elaborate? SWAT team? BORTAC? Coast Guard TACLET?
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>>44335210
Were you hired on? I know it’s pretty competitive, so I was going to apply every where besides like 5 states. Also, do you have to be selected for fire academy or can I just sign on if they have slots available? I’m in Colorado if that helps.
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>>44335497
>that or you pissed of/was seen doing shit wrong by the wrong person maybe?
anything's possible, but I'd think I'd have noticed if I did screw up that hard. And I know the trainer liked me. Might have just been an alphabetical order thing.

> It happend to a crew member bc he pissed in the black lmao, no one wanted him for the rest of the season
wew, that sucks.
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>>44327603
I am 100% honest when i say that every single young "engineer" I have ever met in my entire life is soyboy/numale material.
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>>44335613
I live in Ohio and the Ohio Fire Academy was pretty good. It always had spots open. Check adult ed centers too
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>>44335782
And I also got hired on at a local township but using it as a stepping stone to get somewhere in Columbus, Ohio
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>>44335799
I used to live in Hamilton/Fairfield. Would you say the township was easy to get into? I'm worried by how competitive it is. I've heard of stories where people are waitlisted or put off for 4+ years.
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I'm a Zookeeper, and it's chad as fuck. I literally train lions as a career, not to mentioned I get to show my "soft/sensitive" side, with a bunch of pictures of me holding a cute baby lion.
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>>44336146
How'd you swing that?
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Any other merchant marine chads here?
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>>44326447
this is actually chadlike 9/10

>>44327004
respect/10

>>44330668
7/10 because money
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>>44336165
I majored in biology with a focus on zoology. Then I started at the local zoo in the education department (the people who stand thru the zoo and talk to guests, sometimes holding a small animal), then I did 2 (unpaid) zookeeping internships at the same zoo, then got a temporary job as a zookeeper at that zoo, then moved to a new city where I got a fulltime permanent job as a zookeeper.

And Im a lucky one. some people do literally 5-6 internships moving from town to town trying to get experience and still can only get seasonal work. It's insanely competitive, which I didn't know going in, most low level zookeeping jobs require a year paid experience, which is usually through internships. luckily I'm tall and intelligent and good-looking so I do well with superiors, and interview well. Even so, I dont get paid as much as most people with my level of education or experience, but the job is awesome so I don't mind.

>me
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>>44327021
The does hazardous extrication, CPR and orotracheal intubation now?
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>>44327119
>chad
Those are brads
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>>44336288
looks more like anogenital insertion to me m8
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>>44333355
That's cause you are just support for SF and not an actual Beret or Ranger
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>>44336036
It was pretty easy, just keep looking for local departments that are hiring because they will snatch you up
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>>44336288
Intubation...

Not mentioning
>surgical airways
>central lines
>elective intubation with Paralytics
>administering blood products and antibiotics

It's like you listed only the most basic skills in the toolbox.
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studying to become an exercise physiologist/physiotherapist

where is this on the chad-o-meter?
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Child protective services
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>>44335241
Lol...

Is that just your internship or the whole program? I have not kept up on the national minimum requirements.

Try 2900 hours (class, internship, clinicals) that's how long mine took. Got my 50th intubation not a moment too soon it was a long program.
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>>44336758
Not him, but Know any of them with Asthma?
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>>44327004
I do structural now, but used to do wildland. Still some of my fondest memories.
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>>44333111
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>>44337156
Know any with asthma? Mine is from allergies rather than workout, and isn't an issue unless I have a cat shoved in my face.
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>>44326431
starting Longshoring in a month or two. chad job material?
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>>44337203
If you have asthma you better keep your fucking mouth shut about it during every phase of interview.
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I study eco-terrorism and it’s impact on the economy. Is that chad
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>>44330375
Me too

Not chad at all. Not unless you're working in a top corp firm closing hundred million dollar deals.
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>>44333601
Because only well off people can afford to spend 1000 hours a day shitposting on a weeb website
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>>44337572
JUST FLOM MY SHIT UP SENPAI
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>>44337693
Just flom my shit up
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>>44337376
What happens if they find out? And won't they check or what?
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Im God and I make infinite money every day AMA
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>>44336840
Does your boss know the best protection for the children is keeping you away?
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>>44337693
>>44337705
Law is such a insanely strange career. You basically only exist in the legal world and become totally detached from the rest of reality. I guess the closest equivalent is joining the military in the amount of isolation there is. People have absolutely no idea what you do, but there is this belief that lawyers do well financially and are generally smart, which is complete rubbish. Its a piss easy degree and a piss easy job if you have half a brain. 99% of the job is whether or not you 'get it' by being able to look at a complex situation and see what is actually an issue, but that's not something you learn its just a impartial ability to read between the lines you have or don't.

So I hope to fucking god anon you went into corp law and landed a top tier firm. Because otherwise your life will be spent doing the impossible to help the ungrateful in a never ending meat grinder of fixing other peoples shit.
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>>44337709
No employer, not even the Department of Defense, is allowed to look through your medical records due to the Privacy Act. If you keep your mouth shut, there is no legal way they can find out. If they do, it's almost a guarantee you won't be hired. Not as a firefighter. You'd be considered a liability in IDLH situations.
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>>44337709
One more thing to add; I am all for you pursuing being a firefighter, don't let anything stop you, but do picture yourself in this situation; you're in a burning building doing a primary search, and your mask gets pulled off your face. You're going to breathe in a good amount of smoke before you get your mask seated back on your face. Is that smoke going to trigger an asthma attack for you? It's probably highly likely.
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>>44337898
Oh wow. I fucked myself over for the DOD (probably) by letting them know about my asthma. Can I come clean later on or is that grounds to be fired for?
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>>44337947
He has allergies. Smoke inhalation wont have any different effect.
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>>44337947
I've actually been in a pretty smokey house fire and had no problems, and camp smoke does nothing (I know it's not as concentrated but still). The only things that I know trigger are cats and rabbits.
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>>44337955
Clean with the department, specifically. Not admit that I lied, but that I have somehow developed asthma or do I still keep it under wraps?
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>>44337203
That isn't a disqualifer in itself. Obviously a municipality and even a county job will do a full physical as part of the requirment. That will include cardiac stress test and some sort of respiratory test.

During my testing previous history was not brought up. Doesn't matter. Only that you pass the physical being implemented. From piss tests to blood work to treadmill time and blowing into a spiromrter with a finger up the ass as a final going away gift after 6 hours in the clinic. If they can't find anything wrong it's on to the next step.

The fire service is not like the military. It's quasi para-military and they get some exemptions, but all in all its a civilian job. They have to practice federal, state and local labor laws as well as union bylaws.
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>>44338024
Ok. I'm trying to be declared symptom free for two years then trying to become a firefighter. Two years is the qualifier to be considered condition free, which means I technically wouldn't have to lie for the job if history doesn't come up.
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>>44337203
Just know in the fire service whether a primary EMS/Rescue agency or not, you will be going into people's houses and getting yourself in shitty spots. Only you know your body best. If you go visit grandma to change her smoke detector batteries or end up doing compressions on a child during a resuscitation and there is a cat in the room, are you going to be a danger to your crew and yourself?

It's not fair to go down on a call because you have a medical problem that precludes you from the job. Whether or not you make it through testing this will come up during probation (usually first year after academy) and if you cannot perform the job you will be let go. There is very limited union protection or civil recourse in that situation. It's a tough job and only those that can do it get to stay. Don't waste your time and hundreds of thousands of tax payer dollars.

>average firefighter cost to get off probation including training, wages, bennies, academy, protective gear is $175,000 In my locale.
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>>44337955
You definitely did, and your recruiter didn't help you either. I took meds for ADHD (bullshit parent decision growing up) and that is grounds for refusal for enlistment, but my recruiter told me to keep my mouth shut, and I got in. That's beside the point though. And I'm not sure what would happen to you, but you probably wouldn't enjoy the outcome. If you bring it up at all, for whatever reason, (moral, starting to affect performance etc.) I would lightly suggest it may have arisen from working conditions, or that you hadn't noticed it until recently.

>>44337961
He said asthma but triggered by allergies. If it's asthma, smoke inhalation is going to aggravate it.

>>44337981
If you think you will be fine, then by all means, go for it man. Just don't bring anything about it up because it will likely not get you hired. Firefighting is one of the best careers you can get yourself into
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>>44338121
The only time my asthma has been triggered is when I've spent 8+ hours with a cat I haven't had previous contact with. I understand the risk, but the only time I could think of my asthma being triggered on a call is if a cat is literally shoved in my respirator.
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>>44335251
>mfw on /fit/ ,not only do the posters who work in software engineering make over a quarter of a million dollars a year and then hilariously claim that 350k a year is "middle class" (i live in the bay area, i know you are full of shit), but
>>44335323 these people then claim they are HISTORY majors making a quarter million a year from engineering'

this board is seriously beyond hilarity
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>>44338134
I plan on doing volunteer firefighting to begin with to make sure I can do it before trying to go full time. I was a D1 athlete in high school for track and field, and a rugby player during college, so I know cardio is no issue.
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>>44338200
D1 Level* sorry
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>>44338227
>>44338200
I don't even know what that really means, it's something my coach kept spouting it. Maybe he just wanted to get the attention of scouts or something to make him look good, but the point is I'm good on the cardio level.
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>>44338200
Volunteer firefighting will be great for your resume as well. Good idea. From what you are saying it doesn't seem like you are affected much by your asthma, so as long as you aren't lying, you should be good on that aspect. Just stay fit, stay dedicated, and keep learning.
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>>44338296
Thanks! You guys on this thread were the first people ever to not be all "muh secret club" about firefighting.
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>>44335667
U never met me than faggot
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>>44338167
99% of the job you won't be in turnout gear on air with an SCBA. There is alot of social work, citizen assists and EMS (depending on your department)

>>44338200
Firefighting is less about physical and more about mental. Physical is important, especially early on in your career as it is competitive, it will help you last longer, avoid injuries. As you progress in the ranks and take on new roles the mental part is more key. Ever stay up 24+ hours? Ever had to deal with two structure fires, no sleep or food, run a couple serious EMS calls and then have the mental strength to hold an old ladies hand and change her smoke detector batteries at 3am and tell her not to worry as you play the customer service card and not tear her a new asshole?

Also, get ready for hours of paperwork a shift, seemingly redundant activities and lots of training, meetings and the occasional HR mandatory "hold everyone's hand and be nice" program.

Still the greatest job in the world. How many people can say they are paid to workout, fought the dragon, cut a hole in someone's neck, climbed a 110 foot ladder into a burning building and then flirted with the chicks at the coffee shop all in one day and got paid 6 figures with up to 3 months of vacation a year.

It's Chad as fuck.
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>>44338180
I claimed that--but it's all true, for better or worse.
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>>44338564
>6 figures with 3 months vacation a year
California firefigher or salty cheif?
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>>44338180
You're not a homebuyer in the South Bay.
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>>44338752
PNW.
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>>44338769
Makes sense it seems like anything fire fighting related gets paid fat daddy stacks if your territory is attached to the coast.
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>>44338769
100k a year in the midwest is some serious years on the job compensation.
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>>44338812
Not on the coast. My buddy works alot of overtime in cali. He brought home near $300,000. Cost of living his high though. Homes are $1,000,000 for anything worthy of calling a home.

In the PNW most probies start out at $75,000+ easily hitting $100,000 their first year.

I am happy where I am. $120,000 with a bunch of OT, but my house only cost $100,000. Cost of living is low and I am still only 1.5 hour drive from one of the largest coastal cities in the country for when I want out of small town.
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>>44338908
Sounds pretty fantastic. What state in particular, if you don't mind me asking? I love my department, 48/96, easy to move to other fields of interest such as rescue swimmer, heavy rescue cause it's all unified, etc. it's just the pay is equivalent to just about any other trade job out there. But, cost of living in this area is dirt cheap.
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>>44338564
I guess I won't know if my mind is there until I get there. I know damn well I'm gonna get there eventually though.
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>>44338963
WA.

I know we are often in the top 5 for pay overall, highest for EMS. Versus Cali I think we are better off due to cost of living.

I was getting paid $50 an hour after 5 years with a hospital district doing part time work. Those were 12s and 24 hour shifts.
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>>44338999
>checked
Sounds like some good living, I'll have to look into it more. I've been considering other states just to see if the experience is different. Just not sure if it's a smart move being as happy as I am here, you know what I mean?
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>>44327603
Geological engineer here. There is definitely a subgroup of chads within civil engineering. It's most likely due to the overlap of civil engineering with construction.
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>>44339028
Are you a medic or EMT?

Fire jobs and hospital based medic jobs are popping up all over WA and OR. Only issue is how difficult it is to get reciprocity as well as local competition with candidates coming from the medic-one program at UW school of medicine/Harborview trauma center, central Washington universities bachelor's in paramedicine and Oregon's health and science university program. In Oregon you can't be cert only, either an associates in paramedicine at a minimum or a bachelor's in science/bio/medicine of some sort.

Barriers are higher here versus other states I looked at, but pay and protocols reflect this.

On the fire side most departments run their own academy or use the state. Fire degrees and previous academies are bonus points but not required. The whole private pay academy is an east coast thing. Academy is thought of as indoctrination, not education. So they want you doing it their way.
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>>44326431
Anyone know if you get hired on as a wildland firefighter, if you'll have to reapply for your job the next season or if you're guaranteed a job back? I'm worried about getting a season done, but then not having one the next season and essentially being unemployed.
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>>44339096
Depends who the employer is. Private? Who knows. From corporations to mom and pops. Federal? I have been told as long as you are not a fuck up the hotshots will recycle you.
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>>44339112
>>44339096
So federal is the way to go?
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>>44339072
NRAEMT if that makes a difference, I just recently started on my Paramedic. So the jobs there are all Firefigher/Paramedic no firefighters with EMT certs?
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The most Chad guy I ever met was in Medical supply sales (which is what my does and he’s pretty alpha). Son of a CEO Married a senators daughter. Guy literally assumed the position of leader in every scenario. Most handsome guy I’ve ever met could barely even keep a conversation with the guy my mouth quivered I was in awe. Every girl wanted him. Every guy wanted to be him. Perfect face, perfect jawline. Tall, dark, handsome. Brown hair, brown eyes. Dominant. Nice guy too gave me life advice.

Sales is a dying profession though. I’d say Finance is the most alpha now. I would say lawyer but some of the most beta men I’ve ever met were lawyers that sit behind a desk all day.

Politician or Sales is probably the most alpha
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>>44339197
No there are, just more competition as there are more EMTs. It also seems there has just been more vacant medic spots recently. Cyclical and all it will swing the other way. Most departments here are very EMS heavy. Spokane and Portland run engine medics, but unlike Cali and other places most Oregon/Washington agencies run their own ambulances both BLS and ALS. Some are sole EMS providers others tier with privates and only take high acuity. Therefore there are always medic jobs.
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>>44339276
Are you in love with him?
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>>44339282
He probably thought I was gay for him that’s why he gave me advice
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>>44339276
Same goes for women. Medical sales requires looks. It's like a pre-req. We bought the shitty video laryngoscopes at $10,000 a pop because our buyer got swooned by a hotty in a short skirt. Fuck the glydescopes we have.
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>>44339293
Ha ha. Nice.
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>>44339277
Very interesting I will keep my mind open about this. Thank you very much for all of the information. Stay safe out there brother
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>>44338908
see guys, people on fit make some of the top salaries in the nation even with low costs of living.

>can literally pay for a house in cash with less than 1 year of salary

on fit, this is the norm
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>>44339294
“It’s about what’s on the outside it’s about what’s inside of you”

That’s what my dad said to me when I started my retail sales job. Then again my dad won best looking in high school so he’s pretty much on cloud nine
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hmmm.

what's a good career for a cute trans girl? :)
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>>44339385
Army.
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>>44339397
uh i don't want to join the military. not a big fan of guns...

or being told what to do
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>>44339330
It would be funny if it were not true.
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>>44339330
These are salaries.

>only scheduled to work 8 days a month.
>pick up an overtime shift a week or go on a 3 week deployment port to port pay
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>>44331985
I'm in the cuckmilitary atm but was looking at becoming a paramedic here in aus after my service is done, i understand its better to become an EMT first and then attend a paramedic course? Is Uni required ? I enlisted straight out of hs but am looking at enrolling anyway. Any tips or advice paramedic anons?
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>>44334697
how bad like 80k?
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Is being a paramedic chad? I have some cool stories and a uniform.
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>>44327563
I couldnt help reading this in Ross Gellers voicem holy shit
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>>44339502
what branch and mos/rate? just for shits and giggles.

Getting your EMT cert is a pre-req to become a Paramedic. You cannot start on Paramedic certification until you have done EMT basic and EMT advanced.
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>>44339765
ecn 229 heavy vehicle mechanic, but transferring to SF scout sniper

So its just EMT pre req lad? Ive heard that you need to study biology at a university level to even get in.
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>>44339502
Australian here. With registration coming in this year you're going to have to have a degree to become a paramedic. The cert they put you through in the army as a med tech will teach you some stuff, but will no longer let you be in a state ambulance service as far as I'm aware. Depending on which state, you can either apply through the state service directly, wherein they'll train you in-house and you'll wind up with a degree and on-road, or do a 3 year university degree and then apply. If you search up Paramedics Australasia you'll find a lot of information surrounding registration and other helpful resources.
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>>44326431
Anybody know how much a federal Wildland Firefighter actual makes on average per season?
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>>44339133

getting official "permanent seasonal" status with the feds usually takes a few seasons, but it's not hard to get a temp seasonal job if you've already had one and didn't fuck up egregiously.

federal is nearly always better than contract. Exceptions:
>you have a nasty rap sheet, lots of DUIs, etc.
(this is what's stopping a lot of the more experienced guys at Grayback from working for the government)
>a combination of experience/qualifications, weird scheduling constraints, and being sufficiently plugged in to the fire world to get calls
(so, like, some contractors will pay engine bosses more per fire day than the Feds will, but the flip side is that it's on-call work and when there's no call you don't work. Which is all right if you're tending a pot farm and about to have a kid but want to pick up a little extra income on the side, to take one example.).

otherwise, fed > contract, with state/county usually somewhere in the middle. Cal Fire is an exception, especially if you take them at their word about pensions (I wouldn't), but they work a bit differently than most other agencies and are also very competitive.
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>>44339826
it depends on the state and program. Paramedics don't necessarily have to get certified through a college run program. There are private institutions that can certify you too and then you take a national registry test. One of the only consistent factors is getting both your EMT-B and EMT-A certifications through the national registry.

Forget everything I just said, I completely missed the part where you're an Aussie. I'm speaking about the process here in America. my apologies
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A good season could be $40k, shitty season might be $20k. But it depends on GS grade, how much overtime you get, and how long your season is. And cost-of-living adjustments.
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>>44339826
>>44339831
Oh also, having an army background will be great for your chances at a career, but paramedics is competitive as fuck. If you want to work in aus and have a GPA lower than 70 you're going to have a tough time. Getting involved doing volunteering with an ambulance service as well as with your local university chapter will have huge benefits for your chances of getting a job.
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>>44339933
You familiar with the process to become a smokejumper? Heard a lot of them are prior hotshots.
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>>44327722
Ayy ND grad here
Mendoza has it so damn easy
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I’m a Data Analyst/Excel Jockey
I use my brain gains at work
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>>44339831
cheers anon looking into those sources now going to consider my options, how is the job? I've read it requires leadership skills and is high tempo af which I'm not adverse too.

>>44339912
cheers man, it sounds like its similar here anyway
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>>44339502
Bro become a firefighter instead of paramedic. It’s 10000% better gig
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>>44339944
only second-hand

>Heard a lot of them are prior hotshots.
yep, that's a pretty common pipeline, start where you can, get a few seasons on shot crews, and if you do well enough jumping is a next step. Not necessary in principle--there's no reason you couldn't come in from an engine--but it's a good way to get fire experience and demonstrate physical fitness. I'm told it helps to work close to a jumper base, as well. Jumpers are expected to be able to operate independently, so it's not just about being in shape, you have to be able to plan and strategize and shit--I believe ICT5 is a requirement, de facto if not de jure.
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>>44340003
Metro fire brigade seems fucking difficult to get into, limited positions, many applicants a seemingly inpenetrable community etc
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>>44339975
I haven't graduated yet, but from my placements and doing country ambulance volunteering I can tell you it's fucking amazing. The leadership skills come into play a lot of the time, but not on a large scale. When you take an attendant role, you'll generally have to manage your patient(s), bystanders and give your partner varying levels of direction based on their experience. It's high tempo in the sense that you'll have a call that's ferrying an old lady who broke a finger followed immediately by a child resus with people freaking the fuck out while you're trying to work and keep to strict timings. It can be incredibly nerve racking when you first start, and again when you're first put into positions where you've got seniority.
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>>44340049
Thank you for the information. I also have jump wings from my time in the military; would that increase my chances at being looked at for a team?
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would a Navy Diver be a Chad career? 19 and thinking about joining in august
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>>44340057
It is fucking difficult man. I’ve been in the job 7 Years. It’s worth the effort and training to get in man. Trust me. You want the lifestyle of a firefighter over that of a paramedic
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a & p mechanic (airplane mechanic) i..is that chad?
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>>44327384
Wow you're retarded
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>>44328205
>>44327659
Fug I bet I sound like this to people I talk to about geology
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>>44328112
>Are you hot
simplified that for you
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>>44340612
its either that, para or police to be honest, I've grown accustomed to hard work with your hands and stressful jobs.
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>>44327722
eyyy I grew up in South Bend
Live in Indy working CNC now
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>>44330543

Balfour Beatty are taking on graduate materials engineers. They want you to have at least a 2:2 in geology.
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>>44332051

Bullshit oil is shit currently, they are laying off experienced workers
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>>44333547

Drilling is masculine
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>>44333859

Easily. Lots of work in construction in UK for forseable future. Try get in with a company like Jacobs or Balfour Beatty.
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>>44339033
yes it is
>itt civil major/resident




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