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Can I still get in decent shape for the summer?
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>>45630849
You mean in 1 months time? nope
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>>45630849
Not even summer 2019, might as well kill yourself
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You've got like a 1.5/2 months. You won't lose it all but you could lose a good bit of it.

It shouldn't be about summer anyways. You're never gonna lose it with that attitude.
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Maybe next year summer.. but start dieting now
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Summer 2020? Maybe
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>>45630849
You can look good in 7 months from now if you start today and make lifting/cardio/big clean diet a priority in your life. That means hitting the gym 5'6x a week for 2 hours
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>>45630869
>>45630891
>>45630905

Oh
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Can people just describe a bullet list to get down to sub 15%?

I've been eating under my sedentary TDEE for almost 3 months now and still look terrible.

20 min of fasted cardio, somehow drop even more calories. This shit seems much harder than it needs to.
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F A S T
fasting my anon
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>>45630929
This isn't a movie anon you can't just montage your way through a year of hard work.
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>>45630943
Are you tracking weight week to week? Are you continually losing weight?
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>>45630929
You have to start at one point. Do it now
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>>45630849
what kind of fucking attitude is this? “can i go from couch potato to aesthetic in 2 (two months) because if not i wont be assed”
if you started getting your shit together a few months ago youd be in good shape, but you put it off because you decided to sit around with your thumb up your ass hoping to discover the “one weird trick” that will transform your body in no time. it doesnt exist. dont worry too much about your goal body or how long it may take to get it. just fucking start and set smaller, more realistic goals
>going to the gym regularly for a week
>avoiding fast food for a week
>adding 5 lbs to your lifts
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>>45630869
>summer is in 1 month
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>>45630943
>I've been eating under my sedentary TDEE for almost 3 months now
>somehow drop even more calories. This shit seems much harder than it needs to.
>20 min of fasted cardio (that's it?)
You've figured it out. You're not losing fat because you're eating too little and your body got used to the intensity of the cardio. All you need to do is eat at your TDEE instead of under eating to prevent your metabolism to be even more slower, and crank up the intensity of the cardio to 30~50minutes. Add weight lifting to boost your progress.
>Lose your fat mainly from activity, not caloric deficit.
You'll be rewarded with pussi afterwards.
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No but on the bright side you’ve recognized you look like shit before you’ve let yourself get to “irredeemable” status.
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>>45631159
True
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>>45631015
I live in ny and it's winter for practically 6 months. If it's above 65 degrees it's summer.
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>>45630849
What body fat % is this?
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>>45631203
I live in western NY and my dude seasons don't stop existing at calendar dates because the temperature doesn't allign with what you believe seasonal temperatures are
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>>45630849
You blew it kid.
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>>45631106
>You're not losing fat because you're eating too little and your body got used to the intensity of the cardio.
> to prevent your metabolism to be even more slower,
Rubbish. He most probably miscounts calories. Fasting WORKS
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>>45631224
There are no seasons in NYC. Freezing to boiling in a week.
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>>45630849
Depends what you mean by decent...
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>>45631262
That's not a trend, it just happened this year.
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Fast for the next 20 days then jack up on protein and lift like there is no tomorrow. You'll be good for mid july.
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>>45631290
Make my gut flat and remove a bit of those man titties. Im curious about how i can make my posture better, cause it's gotten worse.
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>>45631349
If you really push it, you could lose ~30lbs by summer, but you’ll still have more work to do
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>>45631388
how the fuck could someone that thin lose 30 lbs by summer?
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>>45631261
You want him to lose muscle and his metabolism to go rock bottom? You want his body to be so sensitive to every calories that he consumes that it turns into body fat immediately? Then I guess you could tell him to eat as low as 500 calories a day and tell him to cross his finger. lol

Just eat at TDEE, track your progress every day and lose fat almost mialy from exercise. Much better that way, you won't starve, quicker result, you'll look 10000X better. What is there to lose? Only fat.
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>>45630849
Travel back in time and be a more active person who eats better.
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>>45630849
start now, thank me in a years time :)
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Starting tomorrow, I want you to follow this diet:

Breakfast: Two cups of coffee, 2tbs butter.

Lunch: Six pieces of bacon and a hard boiled egg.

Dinner: 150g 80/20 chuck and a hard boiled egg.

Snack: 6oz of chicken, 2/3 cup green beans.

Salt food liberally and don't drink anything else but water. Absolutely no sugar. Repeat daily for eight weeks. During this diet I want you to run 3 miles a day for four days a week; on no-run days, I want you to walk four miles. No fapping also.

You will not have muscle, but you will have aborted that fetus you are showing in the photo. At that time, you can start fresh again; the blank slate will allow you to pick what future you'd like.
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>>45630849
you can start tonight with your posture
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>>45631467
>My mom said this is how fasting works
>I love losing muscle by eating under maintenance!
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>>45631594
>Breakfast: Two cups of coffee, 2tbs butter.
Do you just eat the butter straight up?
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>>45631796

You can (and I have), but most prefer to put it in the coffee.
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>>45631821
You're lying. Nobody puts fucking butter in their coffee.
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>>45631849
You are clueless. Go fuck your Bathmate.
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>>45631106
Cheekie I love you and always will xoxo
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>>45631796
Yes, because over time it will make you detest the taste of butter and you will no longer crave unhealthy foods saturated in butter. It's a long game but it's worth it in the long run.
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>>45631849
If only that were true
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>>45631849
Retard
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>>45631467
>You want him to lose muscle and his metabolism to go rock bottom? You want his body to be so sensitive to every calories that he consumes that it turns into body fat immediately?
Literally none of that is true you roid clit, your need to read up on latest science before filming for rush hour 4 starts
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>>45630849
I had a similar body, maybe even a little worse. I have been autisticly gyming, dieting, supplementing and using test (pct) for 11 months and am just now finally able to say that I have a beach-feat body, though I'm going to spend one more month with extreme dieting to drop into single digit body fat before summer actually starts.

I did it the hard way, making muscle-building my priority and losing fat as a side-note in order to not have any loose skin. You can diet and stick to cardio and lose the fat quicker to look semi-decent by maybe mid-summer but you will run the risk of loose skin.
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>>45632286
He isn't that fat to run the risk of loose skin
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>>45632286
>casually mentioning steroids

OK bro, enjoy your fake gains while they last. The moment you stop you are DYEL again.
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>>45631349
Go for something low carb under 100,get some cheap protons like myprotein and drink 2 shakes a day to balance out the missing carbs
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>>45631781
I don't have a pair of balls but I bet my dick hangs lower than yours
>>45631913
Love you too anon
>>45632235
Sauce for dem latest science? I wanna check that one out and see it for myself, if it's buzzfeed tier don't bother tho. Why are you so against cardio? why are you so against calories? What is a calorie?? think about it.
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>>45631467
>eat at tdee
>lose fat
Le recomp meme
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>>45632919
>Sauce for dem latest science?
The entire fast thread. The entire OP template is full of scientific papers.
>Why are you so against cardio?
Im not and never said i was.
>why are you so against calories?
Im not and never said i was.
>What is a calorie??
Has nothing to do with what were discussing and if you think all calories are created equally youre about a decade behind.
Think about it.
Im gonna tell you in closing youre assuming you know more than i do which is why youre talking like a condescending cunt, but you dont. Just want to put that out there before you try and mouth off again.
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>>45633050
>The entire fast thread. The entire OP template is full of scientific papers.
...That's the latest science?
I want to know where you're at when it comes to dieting. Let's say for example you're in OP's situation. You're a skinny fat who eats less and less, but can't lose weight and your progress is at a pause. You do your cardio only 20 minutes a day. What would you change in your routine to fix your problem? I'm just curious. What did the latest science teach you to get yourself out of this?
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>>45630849

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>>45630929
anon, start now. do something strenuous every day and start cutting carbs out of your diet. good luck dude
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>>45633231
Well first off i would assume hes lying. Almost everyone isnt as active or eating as little as they say they are.
Next i would tell him to do intermittent fasting with a 6hr eating window and focus on eating whole real foods and ideally as low carb as possible. No sugar or processed carbs at all ever.
Finally I would encourage him to keep doing cardio and start on a beginner strength program.
I would not tell him to join the circus at a young age while studying Kung Fu then years later movie to Honk Kong in hopes of breaking into the film industry. No certainly not that.
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>>45630891
This.
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>>45631224
No shit. Where in wny?
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>>45633303
>Next i would tell him to do intermittent fasting with a 6hr eating window and focus on eating whole real foods and ideally as low carb as possible
Yes, whole real foods good but where's the calorie talk? Before planning a fast or bulk or anything in general, planning out calories always comes first. That's like driving a car without destination nor map.

You can't make him eat shit calories like 1000~1500 calories and tell him to lift weights and do cardio. He would be too hungry, too low on energy and his progress won't go anywhere unless he's eating good amount of calories.
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>>45632352
Not quite so... I had low test because I'm getting older and was overweight/living a sedentary lifestyle. I packed on newbie gains pretty quickly and it helped me to shred fat more quickly at the same time. I plan on doing one more cycle (three total) and then I will come off and get my natural levels checked after three months. If being fit and active/eating healthy has brought my natural levels back up, I'll drop the test forever. If they're still low, I'll blast and cruise forever. After only a year of lifting, I haven't even the natty limit. I'm only in test, nothing crazy.
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>>45633517
>You can't make him eat shit calories like 1000~1500 calories and tell him to lift weights and do cardio. He would be too hungry, too low on energy and his progress won't go anywhere unless he's eating good amount of calories.
Completely un true and again youre addicted to bb.com memes. Intermittent fasting increases energy. I have a large cup of black coffee for breakfast, lift, then eat lunch and dinner. Now thats anecdotal obviously but again the science shows no problem at all. Your body needs about a week to adjust and youre perfectly fine. You have no clue what youre talking about so before you run your little whore mouth off how about you either try it and go read/watch some science on it.
>calories
By skipping a whole meal and eliminating all sugar and refined carbs he will automatically be at a caloric deficit. I dare you to say he'll simply replace the calories or eat more etc cause thats flat out wrong and isnt how leptin and ghrelin operate.
Its probably best you just concede at this point desu.
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>>45630961
This.
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>>45631467
Hahaha holy fuck you're retarded.
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I was 245lbs 6 weeks ago and I am 195 now. I've been eating 2 meals a week, lifting weights after my meals (usually around 2k calories at a time) and doing light cardio on the fasted days. I have lost zero muscle (actually gained a bit) and lost loads of fat. From experience incorporating fasting is absolutely the best and most efficient method of weight loss.
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not even for summer 2022
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Sorry anons, I'm not fasting. Maybe people who do it don't have shit to do during the day, but I'm not going through 2+ weeks of feeling like shit all day.

>>45633517
This seems more realistic.
Unless people have actual case studies of fasting working for people
>Not on roids
>Not obese
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>>45633855
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2495396/

You won't get to a good level before summer unless you start fasting, if you don't mind or want to fuck up your body with drugs that's up to you.
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>>45633592
I'm not trying to be 4chan edge mode or anything here so try not to be so defensive about what I gotta say. When I was natty few years back I was eating around 1900~2000 cal. My stats back then was 120lbs, 5'5. I went to the gym 5 times a week, cardio for 30~40 minutes 5 times a week. My "maintenance" was around 1500, even though I was eating 400~500 calories more than my maintenance, I was lean. Why was this possible? That's because

>I had good amount of basic muscle mass that kept my metabolism fast
>Cardio made my metabolism fast
>Eating and digesting food made my metabolism fast

Metabolism is everything. A lot of people underestimate the importance of it, and it's so easy to activate your metabolism. You could literally burn fat while sitting on a couch at home even after gym. Why aren't many people doing this? Because most of you are caught up about calories in and calories out. That's the only thing that school teaches people, so I get that it's hard to get. This is why professional bodybuilders keeps eating constantly day and night and is STILL lean as shit. They need calories to maintain their healthy metabolism, so it can give them muscles, leanness and function properly in the gym without starving. That's why I keep telling people to lose fat mainly from exercise, not from extreme caloric deficit. If you're gonna do a caloric deficit then it shouldn't be no more than 200~300cal or else you'll start losing lean mass that you worked so hard for.

>tldr
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>>45633855
>Unless people have actual case studies of fasting working for people
Youre skipping 1 fucking meal dude. Im not even saying a 10 day fast.
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>>45634110
>>I had good amount of basic muscle mass that kept my metabolism fast
I dont disagree
>Cardio made my metabolism fast
This is wrong though, unless you mean EPOC which i highly doubt
>>Eating and digesting food made my metabolism fast
Complete and utter bullshit. When you do a 4 day fast your metabolism is actually high on day 4 than when you started. You're completely 100% wrong.
>A lot of people underestimate the importance of it
And morons like you dont understand it
> Because most of you are caught up about calories in and calories out
You literally fucking said
>You can't make him eat shit calories like 1000~1500 calories and tell him to lift weights and do cardio
>why are you so against calories? What is a calorie??
Are you fucking drunk?
>This is why professional bodybuilders keeps eating constantly day and night and is STILL lean as shit
No it isnt Tren Ace is.

Its actually unsettling to me how fucking misinformed you are. Like this shit is getting embarrassing.
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>>45634110
Oh and
>If you're gonna do a caloric deficit then it shouldn't be no more than 200~300cal or else you'll start losing lean mass that you worked so hard for.
Caloric restriction and fasting arent the same at all. They affect the body in completely different ways. Im pretty positive you dont understand that so go ahead and say im wrong so i can continue shitting on you in public.
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>>45634200
Most of the answer are on the sticky in case you're lost and want to go over more facts, best of luck to u bb.
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>>45634281
This is the single worst cope post ive ever fucking seen. Grow some fucking balls to go with your clit dick and just admit youre wrong. You at like a fitness level 2 in terms of knowledge. You think bb.com is an actual authority and love gym memes. Grow up and move on.
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>>45634311
also feel free to visit us on CBT
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>>45630849
if you look like that, you dont have what it takes.im sorry anon
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>>45634339
Gladly but first lets explain something. Lets say i was 400lbs or 100lbs it would make no difference. Cause thats anecdotal evidence and appeal to authority fallacy. Facts are facts and science is science. Something which id assume youd believe in considering your pumping Chinese bathtub chemicals into your ass. Your wrong and now youre being petty cause you wont admit it.
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>>45631821
>put it in the coffee
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>>45630849
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we can help :)
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>>45634365
literally what
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>>45634750
What dont you understand cheekie fanboy?
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>>45634801
Post body
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>>45634868
Did you really not understand the point of what i just fucking said?
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>>45634884
chill, just wanted to see what you looked like since you seemed like you're a big fan of fasting
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>>45634906
Using IF as we speak to cut from my bulk. Gimme 2 months and ill post all damn day.
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>>45634949
like you will
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>>45635070
Not actually sure what this means
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>>45635128
You won't post, because you won't get there.
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>>45635177
ok?
You saying that doesnt bother me one bit cause im not some new kid.
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>>45635245
Not being new on chan isn't something to be proud of. lol
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>>45631467
I'm the leanest BF% I have ever been at 185 lb which fasting has helped me get to from my worst at 255, this is also the strongest and heaviest I can ever lift.

If you make sure to eat a lot of quality foods high in protein and watch the carbs fasting is great, there's no room for junk if you really want to make progress though.
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>>45635481
how much calories did u eat during fast
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>>45635402
lol haha ya totally lol
And there are far more normal people here than you think. Causally coming to fit from time to time hasnt hindered my life at all friend. Stop believing in memes.
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>>45635481
Correct
Also congrats on the fat loss.
How long did it take and any lose skin problems?
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I'm gonna shave my chest hair now
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>>45635517
Are you a woman? You sound like one
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>>45635589
>You sound like one
ACtually explain what this means and ill answer it.
Are you 18? You sound like you are.
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>>45630849

next summer if you get your shit together
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Jesus, anon.
Pick something up.
Anything.

Fill a fucking laundry basket and pick that up if that's what it takes, but start lifting SOMETHING.
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>>45635525
I had lost quite a bit of the weight before, I was a full blown fatty so even just a year or two of eating poorly but within reason resulted in tons of lost weight.

>>45635508
I really only started fasting around the 200 lb mark, but it has been awesome. I don't track calories but I roughly estimate 2500-3000 a day but i'm very active. My weight stays the same usually but I'm cutting body fat with good nutritional habits
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>>45635607
What a sass, no I'm not 18. When someone ask you a question just answer it instead of beating around the bush.
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>>45635715
>estimate 2500-3000 a day
So you just ate normal amount then, wouldn't really call it a fast. Fasting is like not eating fuck all. Good job
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>>45635715
>>45635525
very very minor in my biceps, and around the sides of my waist. After putting on muscle from a leaner base it's basically unnoticeable
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>>45635738
Within a window of time (8hr) then nothing for the following 16. Between lifting, cardio, and working a job with a little bit of manual labor I expend a lot of energy. Say what you will; but it's working for me, I've lost weight, gained strength, and cut fat
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>>45635768
With or without 8 hour window fasting meme, if you ate 2500~3000 a day with good amount of exercise you would have still lost weight. Only difference was that you got hungry during fast. I mean all it matters is that you lost the weight so that's good enough for you for now.
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>>45635775
your body looks like ass broh
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>>45635715
>I had lost quite a bit of the weight before, I was a full blown fatty
You mean you were even heavier?
>>45635739
>very very minor in my biceps, and around the sides of my waist. After putting on muscle from a leaner base it's basically unnoticeable
Awesome man good for you.
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>>45635927
At my worst in 2012, I was 255 and maybe heavier I never weighed myself often

Thanks, a couple of months ago I was beside someone I graduated with while I was fat and I didn't say anything to see if he would notice me but he didn't. It really felt like a tangible change had happened after that
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>>45636073
Man thats fantastic.
What kind of fasting regime did you use? Just IF or any omad or multi days?
Age btw? Just curious.
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>>45635775
why is your asshole zipped shut
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>>45635775
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Everyone starts somewhere, the bigger thing is starting. If you come in with the mindset that it’s a one shot deal that will end after an arbitrary season does then you’ll never make it
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>>45630849

Work hard tren hard. Anavar give up.
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Nigga u gross
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>>45630849
late to the thread. You're fucked if you want a summer body right now: That's at-least 6 months of hard-ass work for someone like you.
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>>45630849
If you wanted to look good this summer you would have started last summer you fucking xenos dyel.
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>>45630849
lower calories intake, maybe even fast as these anons says. NO SUGAR. do cardio on empty stomach and lift after. EVERYDAY, maybe you can take one day off each week. I lost more than 17 kilos from this. Was on 115+kilos, now between 97-98kilos, since december.
You can do it anon, not for the summer but next summer maybe.
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>>45637006
you reckon he can get there in 6 months?
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>>45630849
literally fast for a few weeks WHILE doing keto, im talking one meal a day only protien like 500 cal

you can lose like 5kg a week safley like this so in 6 weeks you can lose like 30kg

Then you use steroids and bulk and lift like a madman and you can be pretty damn ripped 3 months after that

so 5 months min to be swole A/F
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>>45631218
about 20-25%

I had a proper dexa scan done which showed 21.5% and I looked a tiny bit better than this guy
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>>45633231
>1 day eating - 1 day fasting
>60min cardio
Boom, rapid weight loss
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>>45630849
>Can I still get in decent shape for the summer?

Wrong attitude. If you start this journey, it won't be for this or that summer. Not even for this or that slut. It would be for you (or possibly for Rome\Hitler).

Do you want to be a better version of yourself or do you want to just look presentable?

You have access to superpower, run for hours, or lift hundreds of pounds. Improve the self repairing and recovery of your body. Live longer and better. It's NEVER about this summer.
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>>45630943
Listen, i was 18% (90kg) and lost 15 kg in 6 months doing cardio and -300/500kcal a day.

I went down to 11%. I looked like a quite fuckable twink and i felt disgusted. I've never been this slim.

That's when i decided to lift and get back my muscles.

I was doing 30 minutes of EXTREMELY intense stationary bike, with 3kg dumbbells every day god sent to this forsaken earth.

*extremely intense means 75%/80% hearth reserve rate, for 30 minutes, no stop, no sprinting or bullshit HIIT.

I was outrunning everybody when mountain tracking and could sky no stop for 1 week.

Fuck body fat percentage, i want to be big and deadlift 405 pounds.
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>>45630849
you and an honest answer?

fuck no.

2 years minimum
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>>45631467
Bro, he can do that at the start, but he's gonna need to hop on if he wants to keep the process going at a reasonable rate.
I tried the drug-free recomp meme. You stall hard.
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Summer 2020 at the earliest - but if you start today, you could do that. If you delay, you'll have to wait even longer.

Start today.
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You won't look like a god, but I would recommend fasting for someone like you who wants quick results, basically like cramming for an exam




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