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So I fell for the ryzen meme and went and got myself a 1700, things were going great at first until i realized that about 30 minutes into any game I play my pc will go to the blue screen of death, i have already reinstalled the entire operating system, reset the bios, using no overclock etc.. should i give up and buy an intel?
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>doesn't mention his temperatures
>doesn't mention whether he checked his cooler is set up properly and what he uses
>doesn't mention which specific OS he uses
>doesn't mention any driver updates or versions
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Have you installed latest bios? The current bios you get out of box is pretty fucked.
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>>59398049
>>59398085

yes bios is latest version for the ASUS b350-a
temperatures aren't going over 70c while gaming, stock cooler, cooler is fine, on windows 10 with latest updates
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Faulty RAM or graphics card?
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>compare Ryzen vs closest Intel 8 core equivalent
>Intel CPU's are such beasts that their TDP's are twice as big as Ryzen equivalents
>go for the glorious Intel
>house burns down

IT WAS WORTH IT!™©
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Ryzen is a workstation/server CPU.

Getting it for gaming was stupid and you deserve this.
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>>59398144
I used the gpu with my last build it was fine, did memtest for my ram, no errors

>>59398176
you're probably right but the hype was strong and they did market it to gamers so i don't really think i deserve it
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An i5 6th or 7th gen was enough for gaming m8
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>>59398209
If you knew anything about gaming, you would know that games care about GPU's and not CPU's, and that wasting money on CPU's is the sign of a retard.

It wasn't marketed to gamers, but to underage retards who don't understand how games allocate resources these days and don't know what the hardware acceleration button does.
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>>59398213
Yeah i was real close to getting a 7600k but thought the 1700 would be more future proofed.

My network device stopped working after the last BSOD so i'm restoring windows to a restore point i created yesterday
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>>59398242

Well that's simply not true at all, I'm using the same gpu as my last build and ryzen IS getting better frames per second when it decides to work
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>>59398014
>comes to /g/ for tech support
>"should i give up and buy an intel"

Yes Anon, buy intel and go away.
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>>59398281
It gets better frames per second to such an extant that you couldn't pinpoint it visually if you had the eyes of a hawk.
GPU's are where the real shit is done.
The few games that truly depend on CPU's like Dwarf Fort and such shit care only about clock rate and cache, but don't give a shit about core count.
If you bought a better GPU instead of upgrading a CPU, you would have been more "future-proof".
No, even switching a game install to an SSD is better than upgrading CPU's since the i5 days.
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>>59398242

What has that do with anything he said, you fucking moron?

>CPU stops functioning after half an hour under load
>'b-but it's okay because games care about GPU's and not CPU's!'

How fucking stupid can you get?


As for OP, if what you say is true, then you'll probably have to RMA it, because it's fucked.
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Run prime and see if that kills it. Sounds more like a psu or motherboard failure.
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>>59398347
>As for OP, if what you say is true, then you'll probably have to RMA it, because it's fucked.

sad but I think you're right

>>59398364
>Run prime and see if that kills it. Sounds more like a psu or motherboard failure.

will do, thanks
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>>59398347
>What has that do with anything he said, you fucking moron?
Are you incapable of following a discussion and reading comprehension?
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>>59398014
Speccy or CPU-z or your a lying shillbot faggot
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>>59398255
Yeah same shit was said with bulldozer "it will be more futureproof when games use more cores" and look how that turn out to be puny i3's wrecking it in a breeze, Intel may have less cores but they are way more ahead tuning the same arch over the years. Oh and yeah DX12 will make CPU's more irrelevant.
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>>59398127

>Asus

well, there's your problem. They have kept the same premium price while cheaping out more and more on their products. Their B350 motherboards doesn't even have VRM heatsinks and yet they cost more than MSI, Gigabyte and all the other brands
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>>59398127
>ANUS b350-a
I have found your problem.
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>>59398463

>screen tearing

Makes me kek no matter how many times I see it.
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>>59398364


here it is running prime even with an overclock its stable and temperatures are good, benchmarking is fine, fps in games is fine, very powerful cpu but i'm just having massive stability problems in games
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>>59398127

>ASUS b350-a

Take a look at this board and see if you can spot any VRM heatsinks.

No?

Well, there's your problem, Asus cheaping out on essential components while keeping the premium price
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check the temps. Maybe it's overheating because you fucked up building it like a retard?
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>>59398605

>PS/2 ports
>Serial connector
>VGA

KEK. Did they have a shitload of old components to get rid of and just slapped a bunch of them on the B350 mobos or what???
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>>59398605

do you think that's whats making it crash out of games?

>>59398631
I posted a screenshot above
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>>59398589
The first month I had my skylake it would do the exact same thing you are complaining about. Usually memory address error and a few other random ones. Bios update fixed it. Have you found any other users with similar equipment complaining online?
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>>59398642
Ps2 is extraordinary useful at times.
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>>59398589
My next guess is memory, plays one games with only one ram stick (one which won't hit a memory limit but does crash). I have a similar error on one of my x99 builds at work, certain engines will just run unstable as hell with more than three ram modules. Also one of the usb2 cables used caused blue screens with my phone plugged in.
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>>59398642
That's DVI, not serial, you ponce. Shit board regardless.
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>>59398642
>mfw no more game port
I miss using my sidewinder
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>>59398886
https://www.amazon.com/36-Pin-Parallel-Printer-Adapter-Cable/dp/B002YDJJY4
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>>59398014
Bios v 503?
Did you make sure you really re installed w10? This exact issue popped up on Reddit/Google search.
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>>59398014
I got a 1700 and the only problems I've had so far was the extreme amount of time it takes to boot, the ram not working at the rated speed, and it hating any form of usb wireless sticks
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>>59398956
New Chipset driver popped up also on 3-7. Double check your versions.
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>>59398983
also the fucking heatsink was pants on head retarded
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>>59398956

It's v502, v503 is only for the b350-plus as far as i know, also im doing another reinstall of windows 10 right now.

>>59398786
I'll try this 1 stick thing after i've put fresh windows on
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>>59399020
K. Keep us posted.
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>>59399020
Asus warranty is not bad btw, I would just return it. But make a memtest x86 before that.
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>>59399020
Did you over clock your memory? Have you tried without ocing your CPU?
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>>59399105
>make a memtest x86

already >>59399106
>Did you over clock your memory? Have you tried without ocing your CPU?
done, no errors

yes I have overclocked both and set them back to stock speeds and voltages while trying to find out what the problem here is
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>>59399134
You have to run memtest overnight essentially for it to be valid. One cycle just won't cut it. But bad ram is pretty uncommon and I doubt it's that.
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>>59399134
If memory works and this happens just in games then It's probably just the GPU

Try a game without the GPU?
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>>59398014
What power supply are you using? It might not be enough.
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>>59399217

RM650x, its enough

>>59399213

I will double check that I have the latest GPU drivers this time, it worked fine on my last build though
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>>59399213
Your new here, aren't you?
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>>59398723
Most of us aren't faggots who use model M's, so no, the PS/2 port isn't useful.
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>>59398014
This post is literally the equivalent of this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GxC4kKD9qA

Intel shills please leave
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>>59398127
Couldn't find a shittier board ?
Gaymur at building computers. I bet you have shitty psu too.
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>>59399242
You're aware windows can blue screen if the display driver crashes in the middle of play right? how stupid are you?
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>>59399290
Try installing w7 without it.
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>>59399341
Ryzen has no igpu, how stupid do you feel now?
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>>59399358
nice read the thread next time
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>>59399377
How about not giving shit advice?
>Play a game without the GPU
Really? How?
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>>59398242
>games care about GPU's and not CPU's
Completely inaccurate meme, there are tons of games that are more CPU bound than GPU dependant. UE3 is still very common and is a good example.
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>>59398014

You probably installed a shit-tier OS like windows.
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>>59399419
Cities Skyline absolutely hammers my 6600k. 4 cores are a joke in 2017
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>>59399449
People have been saying that games will use more cores in the future for years now and yet there are barely a handful that actually benefit from it. Expecting it to become commonplace any time soon is as irrational as as getting SLI/Crossfire and expecting all future releases to properly support it. Buy the moar coars shit if you're using software that exists and needs it, not for future speculative cases.
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>>59399485
But I can use more cores today. No not 100% of things use them, but enough for it to be worthwhile today. I also enjoy doing more than one thing at a time.
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>>59399516
So
>Buy the moar coars shit if you're using software that exists and needs it
But do recognize that these are specific cases. Saying shit like "4 cores are a joke in 2017" is just retarded.
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>got my 7700k 5 hours ago
>stable at 4.7GHz 1.22v
>going to try 5GHz later
Why can't poozen do this?
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>>59399533
>tfw mainstream 4 core (Q6600) is over 10 years old.
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>>59399533
Yeah, it's pretty retarded. I could run Linux on 2 core, windows native courtesy of qemu/KVM on 4 cores, and run muh seedbox/kodi/Plex/whatever on 2, and give pfsense one also.
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>>59398127
>Anus
Return that shit if you can and get a proper mobo.
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I personally haven't really had any issue. 1700x with msi b350 here. I updated bios on first power up and oc'd it mildly.
Working great so far. Only thing is it runs warmer than I'm used to. 45-55c idle temps. 62-68c under load. But I attribute that to my likely undersized h60i I used because I already had it and want to wait for some nicer options to become available.
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>>59399533
The human eye can only see 4 cores
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>buying asus
Why would you do that to yourself? Are you a gaymen from /v/?
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>>59399585

weirdly that's the processor im upgrading from to the ryzen 1700
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>>59398510
Not that anon but I always chose ASUS because they used fucking great components like caps, VRM heatsinks and had Digital VRM's, plus long term support and breddy gud BIOS.

That was back in Ivy Bridge times. What's the current king of motherboards? MSI?
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>>59399670
Gigabutt probably
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>>59399612
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-ryzen-7-have-a-temperature-20-degree-c-reporting-offset.html

read this, it might be colder
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>>59399670
Hilariously ASRock followed by Gigabyte, at least for Ryzen
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>>59399612
I question the ability of only 4 vrms to achieve a stable oc. technically, you might be using only 3 for the CPU.
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OP here, I have windows back on, latest graphics card driver etc and some games, one thing i overlooked though is this chipset driver

http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/chipset?os=Windows%2010%20-%2064

turns out a new one was released just 4 days ago so i'm installing that now, then i'll reboot and load a game for a while, i'll probably be able to let you all know if the fresh OS install and chipset drivers bring more stability to my system in about 45 mins to an hour if the thread is still here
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>>59399795
Your welcome, op. Enjoy.
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>>59399612
Are you using the beta bios? I can't find anything other than 1.0 for that board
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>>59399795
Good luck
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>>59399795
If that doesn't work then it is most likely a case of that shit motherboard being shit.
I've never used Asus and don't have any plans on doing so. I am annoyed when I see people give pc build lists to those looking to build, them listing Asus motherboards, thinking they're the best. Asus might have been at one point, but those days have long past. I've been using MSI motherboards for some years now in every pc that I've built, and I've never had any issues at all with them. Gigabyte is another great brand.
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OP here, still broken
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>>59399791
There are 6 phases on the Tomahawk, out of which at least 4 are providing power to the CPU.
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Last time it BSOD it said BAD_POOL_HEADER now it's not booting
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>>59400919
Check memory with memtest.
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>>59398014
Reminder to never buy AMD. They are slow, expensive, unstable garbage.
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>>59400954

I already did 1 pass yesterday but i guess i'll do more overnight, not much else i can do
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>>59400975
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>>59399516
>No not 100% of things use them
Not even 10% of things use them chap if we are talking video gaymes.
Hell, even that's a lie.
Not even 5% use them.
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>>59401066
This dick sure uses all of your moms cores
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>>59401006
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>>59400998
If you're able to boot into windows check bsod dumps with blue screen viewer and write down the name of the file that causes the bluescreens.
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>>59401201
>>59401205
hivememe
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>>59401228
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>>59398176
>workstation/server
>no ECC RAM, no proper vt-d
Ok Pajeet Singh Rajneesh Raja
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>>59399670
asus TUFF series are actually pretty great still, in that retard.

Too bad that line does not exist for ryzen, yet (if ever)
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>>59398209
So, you bought it because of marketing and didn't bother to wait for benchmarks or reviews? I have a truck I want to sell, it's really really awesome, 2 grand sound ok?
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I had an NVMe driver needing to be installed too so that's on now

>>59401368

what kind of truck?
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>Asus
Literally any brand other than asus is better
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>>59398014
Just buy Intel
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>>59402543
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>>59398127
>b350-a
that's your problem bro. see >>59398605
vrms are probably overheating. like really, you spend $300 on a processor but then get the absolute cheapest board you can get?
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>>59398014
>into any game I play


there's your fucking problem
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OP here, I'm running 1 stick of ram right now, already ran 1 stick but it still crashed so using the other stick and it's been fine for a while so I'm hoping this whole issue will just turn out to be 1 stick of faulty ram
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>>59398014
Nvidia gpu by any chance?
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>>59401299
ECC exists and is enabled on the desktop Ryzen parts, AMD just isn't advertising it. You'd have to find a motherboard that enables it though. Source: the AMD AMA that happened on reddit shortly after launch.
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>>59402783
yes
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>>59402829
Have they explained why exactly they chose a 64 GB memory limit for Ryzen?

I'd like to do 2*32 GB now with room to upgrade, but I guess I'm waiting for the 2-die workstation variant of Zen I guess.
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>>59398649
Are you using the stock heatsink?
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>>59402929
yes
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>>59402907
t. billionaire
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>>59402907
I don't know. I'm a little disappointed by that too. IMO more wouldn't be overkill-- I have 16 gigs of RAM now and I literally can't keep enough stuff running to really load my i7-6700HQ (low-clocked mobile part.) I always run out of RAM well before I run out of CPU throughput. So trying to keep a higher-clocked similar-IPC 8-core CPU properly fed with 64 gigs of RAM seems questionable.
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>>59398510
My b350 plus has vrm heatsinsk
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>>59402962
/g/ posters:
> willing to spend $400-$500 on a CPU
> $200 on a mobo
> god knows how much on a gaymen proctology upgrader
> $600 for 64GB is too much
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>>59398127
Anon I have the same board and I can confirm it's a piece of shit.
>You can set the cpu voltage to whatever you want, but it sends 1.40 to 1.49 no matter what
>CPU idles at 60C. Gammaxx 200T, I made sure it was on right and replaced the stock thermal paste, fan 100% all the time. However, feeling the part of the heatsink that directly contacts the processor it feels hardly over ambient. Bad temperature sensor maybe? As soon as cryorig gets off their ass and sends the adapter it's getting an H5 Universal on there. If that can't bring temps down, nothing will.
>if you want 5.1, expect the woofer to pop every time the OS loads the audio driver
>3200MHZ ram? The best I can do is 2133mhz.
Don't think of it as a shitty motherboard, think of it as the temporary board you'll throw out once better boards start showing up.
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>Retards in this thread actually try to put blame on a mobo
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My i7 7700k doesn't have this problem.
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>>59405084
Anon this happens every AMD release.
>great hype beforehand
>disastrous launch
>problems fixed after the fact
>steady stream of improvement that nobody mentions
It's not so much blaming a brand or company or component as it is blaming ourselves for being dumb enough to buy on day one.
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>>59398127
botht he cpu and the mobo are overheating.
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>>59405202
>>59405084
it was established years and years ago that intels marketing team goes out of their way to overhype zen products.

both with fake leaks about their price and their performance then spamming shitholes like /g with their unfounded claims of awesomeness
just so they can come back and claim AMD fags were lying about hype nobody ever even believed in the first place.
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>>59405125
Neither my i5 6600k
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Kek@all the retarded AMDfags trying to diss OP for not choosing a 250bucks mainboard.

>Ryzen has a better performance/price ratio, I s-swear

Only if you do rendering and compiling most of your time.
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>>59399343

W7 installer supports USB devices, never had a problem with it.
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>>59398014
Have you Installed the fan on the CPU?
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>>59405663
My 6600k had this exact problem until a bios update. New adopters always pay the price.
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>>59405663

Neither my E8500.
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>>59405816
No it doesn't. Quit lying.
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>>59398014

Use Lynx to load the CPU, use Furmark to load GPU.

If either fails you will know the problem.
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>>59405904

No it does, at least SP1 installer. I have done it multiple times with no PS/2 keybpard/mouse.
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>>59405968
Your motherboard supports fallback mode, which is quite rare, or your motherboard has a "compatibility" mode, like my EVGA board does. Or you are on pre skylake equipment. If what you claim is really true, absolutely every motherboard manufacturer would have not released patching tools to manually insert the USB drivers into the SP1 .ISO.
Fuck off
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>>59398127
>Asus
>70C
You are literally boiling the CPU
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>>59400082
This. I stopped using Asus Cuz I've gotten two defective mobos. Same with Nvidia when I had a gtx 7600 and 8800 gtx. I both died within two years. I stick to Msi mobos they've never let me down. I'm running my 6600k. At 4.7 no crashes.
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>>59405904
He's right.

t. someone who has installed windows 7 via USB on 3 rigs so far and am posting on one right now.
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>>59405615
>established years and years ago that intels marketing team goes out of their way to overhype zen products

I don't know what you're on but I'll take 5 lb of it.
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>>59406053
>Your motherboard supports fallback mode, which is quite rare,

This is the case, ok.
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>>59406053

I was curious and I rechecked it. I cannot even "Press any key to boot into CD" because bottstrapping code won't accept keystrokes unless I have a PS/2 keybpard or compatibility mode enabled. Boot device selection opens upon request but is not responsive. BIOS setup lets me use the keybpard anyways.

So, it is not possible to install any OS on this particular motherboard from CD without PS/2 KB at all.
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OP here, A final update for you all.

There was absolutely no overheating going on, i followed the suggestion by >>59398786 and ran one stick at a time.

> First stick in, launched game
> plays 30 minutes then crashes to desktop
> play another game, BSOD after 10 mins
> try only the second stick, launched game
> still running after 30 mins
> end up playing 2 hours no problem
> run the other game that was crashing
> no problems

Thanks to everyone that gave advice here and hopefully some of you learned from my experience.
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>>59407349
I learned how many AMD shills there are
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>>59406136
it's mien
AND MIEN ALONE
my purrreshhhusssssssssss
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>>59398163
>last gen
>A 250 watt vishera is fine guys! It is your fault if you cant cool it properly!
>this gen
>125 watt intel chip? Lol enjoy your housefire! Hope you have AC!
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>>59407349
why didn't you just run windows memory diag?
would take about 20 minutes, check each stick, and you don't bother crashing.
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>>59398642
>>59399290

>being this mad you don't own a Model M

kill yourself. PS/2 is superior to USB for keyboards. Fuck your polling, interrupts all day.
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>>59403291
How's your OC on that b350 plus? I've got one and only can get my 1700x to 3.7ghz on all eight cores. even at like 1.5 volts.
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>>59398605
This. Asus is shit. Kept having bsods with a i7-6700k build yet none ever since replacing the mobo with an evga one. Asus used to be one of my trusted brands but not anymore.
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>>59408018
>vishera release 2012
you do know the current year is year of our lord+2017...
right?
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>>59409214
Does a 125 watt tdp chip run hotter now than they did in 2012? Has physics somehow changed since then?
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>>59398014
>So I fell for the ryzen meme
You mis-spelled "I got paid by Intel"
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>>59411488
t. RedTeam+ shill
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>>59409429
why don't we start comparing these modern cpus to pentiums and celerons too while we're at it.

P.S vishera runs at a breezy 95w (well 10C less give or take your luck on the silicon lotto)
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>>59408021
I did, no errors found, also did 1 pass of memtest, no errors found, it ran perfect for all the benchmarks I did and hours of web browsing etc, it's only about 30 minutes into gaming I had any problems, very strange.
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tfw asus ROG only am4 board with am3 mounting holes so my fucking $150 cpu block+ pump can fit on it
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>>59411989
they apparently fixed a lot of instability, how does it work with new BIOS for you?
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>>59412018
idk cuz it's fucking out of stock even though I pre-ordered on february 23rd

a lot of people on overclockers.net have great success, in fact asus is the only one with actual employees on the board who are testing constantly for the ROG crosshair as it is "supposed" to be the best OCing board as it usually is

http://www.overclock.net/t/1624603/rog-crosshair-vi-overclocking-thread
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>>59405027
Same board here.

> but it sends 1.40 to 1.49 no matter what
It always says so in bios, tried changing it in ryzen master?

Mine idles around there too but runs good. Gammaxx 400 gettinng replaced by noctua u12something when I get adapters.
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Send back your motherboard and take a taichi or a gigabyte
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>>59402829
>it supports ECC guise, but its up to the motherboard
>No motherboard supports it
doesnt seem like its supported anon, its just a marketing guy who has no clue what the fuck ECC larping on reddit
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>>59412507
http://www.gigabyte.us/Motherboard/GA-AX370-Gaming-5-rev-10#sp
>4. Support for ECC Un-buffered DIMM 1Rx8/2Rx8 memory modules
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>>59412816
supporting it doesn't mean it will run in ECC mode
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Just want to say although ASUS's low end motherboards are dogshit and save for a few exceptions their AMD cards just use coolers designed for Nvidia cards and use awful components, their high end stuff is generally quite good. I remember their 970x board being king of all AM3 boards for years after its release.
If you're after a decent, cheap AMD board always go Gigabyte. Still using my UD3 rev1.1 from 2012 with an 8320 @4.2.

I'm personally waiting for the AM4 version of pic related and the R5 chips.
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>>59412984
This. Funny how those headliners in Motherboards are now the worst while the unpopular ones like Asrock might have a comeback.
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Doesnt asus own asrock?
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>>59408018
>140W now reduced to 125W in a butthurt anon's post
KEK
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>>59398014
>BSOD
You know, that Bsod tells you an error message, right?
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>>59408021

I ran memtest86+ and found nothing but my browser still crashed and there were problems in Lynx. Memory testing with simplistic programs is never reliable.
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>>59399580
Because it nearly matches it for games at a lower clock and less power and beats it in multi-threading. Simples.
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>>59399612
Deduct 20c from that temp as it's a known issue.
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>>59412984
Is Asus going to make an Impact version of AM4?

It's only beaten by the M9 Apex and MOCF
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>>59398014
Nice bait thread fag, now fuck off
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>>59402501
>ECS
>Biostar
Well..
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>>59398413
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>>59416529
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>>59416529
people are so defensive over their preffered corporations, weird
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Asrock AB350 GAMING K4 or Gigabyte GA-AB350-GAMING3?
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>>59398014
Moral of the thread? Fanboys are angry little fucks and never early adopter new tech
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>>59398209
>hype
>marketing
>i don't really think i deserve it

you are wrong
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>>59416152
You have to let it run for hours, like a OC stability test.
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>>59419974
ASRock.
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>>59416152
Memtest86+ is far from simplistic. Let it run two passes, at least. If you want to speed it up, enable multithreading with F2, then select "Round-robin" as the CPU selection mode in the (c)onfiguration menu.
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>>59408095
It literally doesn't matter.
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>>59398510
>tfw the Asus B350 is the only non-red MATX AM4 board at the moment

Unfortunately, I don't have a choice since i'm trying to keep it black and blue.




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